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If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Death" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Death">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Death</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Death</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Death</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">Death articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"],"text":"Reperfusion","linkableTitle":"Reperfusion"}--><h2 id="Reperfusion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z"></span>Reperfusion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Death&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Reperfusion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion","timestamp":"2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Reperfusion-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"],"text":"Reperfusion","linkableTitle":"Reperfusion"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"></span>I was the one who edited out <a href="/wiki/Reperfusion" class="mw-disambig" title="Reperfusion">Reperfusion</a> if anyone feels it needs to be discussed. Kind of a no-brainer, though, if you look at the link, I think. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mordicai" title="User:Mordicai">mordicai.</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z","author":"Mordicai","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion","replies":[],"displayName":"mordicai."}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mordicai-2007-08-02T15:06:00.000Z-Reperfusion"></span> </p> <div 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Keeping_the_template_secular-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular","timestamp":"2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Keeping_the_template_secular-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular"],"text":"Keeping the template secular","linkableTitle":"Keeping the template secular"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular"></span>Edited out any references to religion except in the context of comparing views of all beliefs, religious and secular. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.192.216.234" title="Special:Contributions/72.192.216.234">72.192.216.234</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.192.216.234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:72.192.216.234 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-72.192.216.234-2008-07-03T16:20:00.000Z-Keeping_the_template_secular"><span 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id="Persistant_Vegetative_State" data-mw-thread-id="h-Persistant_Vegetative_State-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Persistant_Vegetative_State-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z"></span>Persistant Vegetative State<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Persistant_Vegetative_State-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Death&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Persistant Vegetative State"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Beccaviola-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Persistant_Vegetative_State-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Beccaviola-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z-Persistant_Vegetative_State"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div 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dystrophies, severe cerebral palsy, advanced Alzheimer's etc. etc. In particular nothing much differentiates it from even only very slightly milder disability caused by brain injury - see <a href="/wiki/Minimally_conscious_state" title="Minimally conscious state">minimally conscious state</a>. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Beccaviola" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Beccaviola">Beccaviola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beccaviola" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Beccaviola">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Beccaviola" title="Special:Contributions/Beccaviola">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-Beccaviola-2010-11-16T06:35:00.000Z-Persistant_Vegetative_State" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)</a></span></small><span 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ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Afterlife_section-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section"],"text":"Afterlife section","linkableTitle":"Afterlife section"}--><h2 id="Afterlife_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Afterlife_section-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Afterlife_section-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"></span>Afterlife section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Afterlife_section-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Death&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Afterlife section"><span>edit</span></a><span 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section"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section"></span>Surely 'funeral' is about the body, and the death certificate is generally about the body. If the items below body were about the soul for example there could be a good reason for this seperation of topics, but they don't seem to be. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2.97.166.23" title="Special:Contributions/2.97.166.23">2.97.166.23</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2.97.166.23&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2.97.166.23 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z","author":"2.97.166.23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section","replies":["c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z-Afterlife_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"></span>"Afterlife" is not a section, it's just the first item (in alphabetical order) of things that have to do with the Death of a person that are not <i>directly</i> related to the body. A Funeral is NOT about the body: after all, there are funerals without a body (when it is missing or cremated), and there are dead bodies and even burials without funerals (the burial of paupers; the undiscovered bodies of pioneers, explorers, soldiers, etc. which lay where they died). The second line are customs or beliefs that affect how the body is treated; thus, things that <i>indirectly</i> affect a dead body. I tried to make the distinction by adding the lead word "Other" before the second line. <a href="/wiki/User:Boneyard90" title="User:Boneyard90">Boneyard90</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boneyard90" title="User talk:Boneyard90">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z","author":"Boneyard90","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boneyard90-2011-06-13T10:38:00.000Z-2.97.166.23-2011-06-13T08:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"],"text":"Sky burial","linkableTitle":"Sky burial"}--><h2 id="Sky_burial" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z"></span>Sky burial<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Death&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Sky burial"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial","timestamp":"2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Sky_burial-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"],"text":"Sky burial","linkableTitle":"Sky burial"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"></span>I added <a href="/wiki/Sky_burial" title="Sky burial">Sky burial</a> to the list of ways of disposing of bodies. I don't think this is controversial, but I'm making a note here just in case.<a href="/wiki/User:Travelpleb" title="User:Travelpleb">Travelpleb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Travelpleb" title="User talk:Travelpleb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:11, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z","author":"Travelpleb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Travelpleb-2013-05-25T10:11:00.000Z-Sky_burial"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"],"text":"Death places","linkableTitle":"Death places"}--><h2 id="Death_places" data-mw-thread-id="h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z"></span>Death places<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Death&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Death places"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places","timestamp":"2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Death_places-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"],"text":"Death places","linkableTitle":"Death places"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"></span>Apologies if this is in the wrong template talk, feel free to move it if it is. Can any rules be found anywhere on what constitutes a person's death place in a time of war, eg. in an unclear location in open country or at sea etc? For instance, for deaths at sea, a user, <a href="/wiki/User:Supaidaman0" title="User:Supaidaman0">Supaidaman0</a>, is going around adding the ship the person was on as their "death place" (see <a href="/wiki/William_Miller_(footballer,_born_1875)" title="William Miller (footballer, born 1875)">William Miller (footballer, born 1875)</a> for an example). We don't know that he died while on the ship or while in the water. So what is his death place? To me it's just "Aegean Sea". <a href="/wiki/User:Beatpoet" title="User:Beatpoet">Beatpoet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beatpoet" title="User talk:Beatpoet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Death#c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 3 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z","author":"Beatpoet","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beatpoet-2020-01-03T14:00:00.000Z-Death_places"></span> </p> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.eqiad.main‐5dc468848‐pqnt5 Cached time: 20241125022030 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1, show‐toc] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.016 seconds CPU time usage: 0.147 seconds Real time usage: 0.220 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 154/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 6481/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 28/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 11/100 Expensive parser function count: 5/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8880/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.088/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1381132/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 148.265 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 100.00% 148.265 1 -total 49.47% 73.343 1 Template:WikiProject_Death 1.49% 2.214 1 Template:Yesno --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:12579105-0!canonical and timestamp 20241125022030 and revision id 1223742450. 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