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Judges 8:8 From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.

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(Click for Chapter)</a></div><div id="par"><span class="versiontext"><a href="/niv/judges/8.htm">New International Version</a></span><br />From there he went up to Peniel and made the same request of them, but they answered as the men of Sukkoth had.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nlt/judges/8.htm">New Living Translation</a></span><br />From there Gideon went up to Peniel and again asked for food, but he got the same answer.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/esv/judges/8.htm">English Standard Version</a></span><br />And from there he went up to Penuel, and spoke to them in the same way, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/bsb/judges/8.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a></span><br />From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/kjv/judges/8.htm">King James Bible</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered <i>him</i>.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nkjv/judges/8.htm">New King James Version</a></span><br />Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke to them in the same way. And the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb_/judges/8.htm">New American Standard Bible</a></span><br />Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb/judges/8.htm">NASB 1995</a></span><br />He went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb77/judges/8.htm">NASB 1977 </a></span><br />And he went up from there to Penuel, and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lsb/judges/8.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a></span><br />So he went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/amp/judges/8.htm">Amplified Bible</a></span><br />He went from there up to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/csb/judges/8.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a></span><br />He went from there to Penuel and asked the same thing from them. The men of Penuel answered just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/hcsb/judges/8.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a></span><br />He went from there to Penuel and asked the same thing from them. The men of Penuel answered just as the men of Succoth had answered. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/asv/judges/8.htm">American Standard Version</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/cev/judges/8.htm">Contemporary English Version</a></span><br />After leaving Succoth, Gideon went to Penuel and asked the leaders there for some food. But he got the same answer as he did at Succoth. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/erv/judges/8.htm">English Revised Version</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/gwt/judges/8.htm">GOD'S WORD&reg; Translation</a></span><br />Then Gideon went to Penuel and asked the people there for the same help. But they gave him the same reply that the men of Succoth gave.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/gnt/judges/8.htm">Good News Translation</a></span><br />Gideon went on to Penuel and made the same request of the people there, but the men of Penuel gave the same answer as the men of Sukkoth. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/isv/judges/8.htm">International Standard Version</a></span><br />Then he left there to go to Penuel and asked the same thing from them, but the men of Penuel responded the same way the men of Succoth did. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/msb/judges/8.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a></span><br />From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/net/judges/8.htm">NET Bible</a></span><br />He went up from there to Penuel and made the same request. The men of Penuel responded the same way the men of Succoth had.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nheb/judges/8.htm">New Heart English Bible</a></span><br />He went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/wbt/judges/8.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/web/judges/8.htm">World English Bible</a></span><br />He went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them in the same way; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered. <div class="vheading2"><b>Literal Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lsv/judges/8.htm">Literal Standard Version</a></span><br />And he goes up there [to] Penuel, and speaks to them thus; and the men of Penuel answer him as the men of Succoth answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/ylt/judges/8.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a></span><br /> And he goeth up thence to Penuel, and speaketh unto them thus; and the men of Penuel answer him as the men of Succoth answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/slt/judges/8.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a></span><br />And he will go up from thence to Penuel, and he will say to them like this: and the men of Penuel will answer him as the men of Succoth answered.<div class="vheading2"><b>Catholic Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/drb/judges/8.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a></span><br />And going up from thence, he came to Phanuel: and he spoke the like things to the men of that place. And they also answered him, as the men of Soccoth had answered. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/cpdv/judges/8.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a></span><br />And going up from there, he arrived at Penuel. And he spoke to the men of that place similarly. And they also answered him, just as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nabre/judges/8.htm">New American Bible</a></span><br />He went up from there to Penuel and made the same request of them, but the people of Penuel answered him as had the people of Succoth.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nrsvce/judges/8.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a></span><br />From there he went up to Penuel, and made the same request of them; and the people of Penuel answered him as the people of Succoth had answered.<div class="vheading2"><b>Translations from Aramaic</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lamsa/judges/8.htm">Lamsa Bible</a></span><br />And he went up from there to Penuel, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/hpbt/judges/8.htm">Peshitta Holy Bible Translated</a></span><br />And he went up from there to Penuil, and as the men of Saquth answered him, so also the men of Penuil answered him<div class="vheading2"><b>OT Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/jps/judges/8.htm">JPS Tanakh 1917</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/sep/judges/8.htm">Brenton Septuagint Translation</a></span><br />And he went up thence to Phanuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Phanuel answered him as the men of Socchoth <i>had</i> answered him.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/parallel/judges/8-8.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></span></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv"><b>Audio Bible</b></div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AjzBiIYY2Dc?start=2319" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe><span class="p"><br /><br /><br /></span><div class="vheadingv"><b>Context</b></div><span class="hdg"><a href="/bsb/judges/8.htm">Gideon Defeats Zebah and Zalmunna</a></span><br>&#8230;<span class="reftext">7</span>&#8220;Very well,&#8221; Gideon replied, &#8220;when the LORD has delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into my hand, I will tear your flesh with the thorns and briers of the wilderness!&#8221; <span class="reftext">8</span><span class="highl"><a href="/hebrew/8033.htm" title="8033: mi&#353;&#183;&#353;&#257;m (Prep-m:: Adv) -- There, thither. A primitive particle; there then; often thither, or thence.">From there</a> <a href="/hebrew/5927.htm" title="5927: way&#183;ya&#183;&#8216;al (Conj-w:: V-Qal-ConsecImperf-3ms) -- A primitive root; to ascend, intransitively or actively; used in a great variety of senses, primary and secondary, literal and figurative.">he went up</a> <a href="/hebrew/6439.htm" title="6439: p&#601;&#183;n&#363;&#183;&#8217;&#234;l (N-proper-fs) -- Or Pniylel; from panah and 'el; face of God; Penuel or Peniel, a place East of Jordan; also the name of two Israelites.">to Penuel</a> <a href="/hebrew/1696.htm" title="1696: way&#183;&#7695;ab&#183;b&#234;r (Conj-w:: V-Piel-ConsecImperf-3ms) -- To speak. A primitive root; perhaps properly, to arrange; but used figuratively, to speak; rarely to subdue.">and asked</a> <a href="/hebrew/2063.htm" title="2063: k&#257;&#183;z&#333;&#7791; (Prep-k:: Pro-fs) -- Hereby in it, likewise, the one other, same, she, so much, such deed, that. Irregular feminine of zeh; this.">the same</a> <a href="/hebrew/413.htm" title="413: &#8217;a&#774;&#183;l&#234;&#183;hem (Prep:: 3mp) -- To, into, towards. ">from them,</a> <a href="/hebrew/582.htm" title="582: &#8217;an&#183;&#353;&#234; (N-mpc) -- Man, mankind. From 'anash; properly, a mortal; hence, a man in general.">but the men</a> <a href="/hebrew/6439.htm" title="6439: p&#772;&#601;&#183;n&#363;&#183;&#8217;&#234;l (N-proper-fs) -- Or Pniylel; from panah and 'el; face of God; Penuel or Peniel, a place East of Jordan; also the name of two Israelites.">of Penuel</a> <a href="/hebrew/6030.htm" title="6030: way&#183;ya&#183;&#8216;a&#774;&#183;n&#363; (Conj-w:: V-Qal-ConsecImperf-3mp) -- To answer, respond.">gave the same response</a> <a href="/hebrew/853.htm" title="853: &#8217;&#333;&#183;w&#183;&#7791;&#333;w (DirObjM:: 3ms) -- Apparent contracted from 'owth in the demonstrative sense of entity; properly, self."></a> <a href="/hebrew/834.htm" title="834: ka&#183;&#8217;a&#774;&#183;&#353;er (Prep-k:: Pro-r) -- Who, which, that. A primitive relative pronoun; who, which, what, that; also when, where, how, because, in order that, etc.">as</a> <a href="/hebrew/6030.htm" title="6030: &#8216;&#257;&#183;n&#363; (V-Qal-Perf-3cp) -- To answer, respond."></a> <a href="/hebrew/582.htm" title="582: &#8217;an&#183;&#353;&#234; (N-mpc) -- Man, mankind. From 'anash; properly, a mortal; hence, a man in general.">the men</a> <a href="/hebrew/5523.htm" title="5523: suk&#183;k&#333;&#183;w&#7791; (N-proper-fs) -- Or Cukkoth; plural of cukkah; booths; Succoth, the name of a place in Egypt and of three in Palestine.">of Succoth.</a> </span><span class="reftext">9</span>So Gideon told the men of Penuel, &#8220;When I return in triumph, I will tear down this tower!&#8221;&#8230;<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> &middot; <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><span class="crossverse"><a href="/matthew/10-14.htm">Matthew 10:14</a></span><br />And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/luke/9-5.htm">Luke 9:5</a></span><br />If anyone does not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that town, as a testimony against them.&#8221;<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/mark/6-11.htm">Mark 6:11</a></span><br />If anyone will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that place, as a testimony against them.&#8221;<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/matthew/11-21.htm">Matthew 11:21-24</a></span><br />&#8220;Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. / But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. / And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No, you will be brought down to Hades! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. ...<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/luke/10-10.htm">Luke 10:10-12</a></span><br />But if you enter a town and they do not welcome you, go into the streets and declare, / &#8216;Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet, we wipe off as a testimony against you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.&#8217; / I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/1_samuel/25-10.htm">1 Samuel 25:10-11</a></span><br />But Nabal asked them, &#8220;Who is David? Who is this son of Jesse? Many servants these days are breaking away from their masters. / Why should I take my bread and water and the meat I have slaughtered for my shearers, and give them to these men whose origin I do not know?&#8221;<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/1_kings/12-16.htm">1 Kings 12:16</a></span><br />When all Israel saw that the king had refused to listen to them, they answered the king: &#8220;What portion do we have in David, and what inheritance in the son of Jesse? To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, O David!&#8221; So the Israelites went home,<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/2_chronicles/10-16.htm">2 Chronicles 10:16</a></span><br />When all Israel saw that the king had refused to listen to them, they answered the king: &#8220;What portion do we have in David, and what inheritance in the son of Jesse? To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, O David!&#8221; So all the Israelites went home,<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/isaiah/53-3.htm">Isaiah 53:3</a></span><br />He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief. Like one from whom men hide their faces, He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/john/1-11.htm">John 1:11</a></span><br />He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/john/15-18.htm">John 15:18-19</a></span><br />If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. / If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/acts/13-51.htm">Acts 13:51</a></span><br />So they shook the dust off their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/acts/18-6.htm">Acts 18:6</a></span><br />But when they opposed and insulted him, he shook out his garments and told them, &#8220;Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.&#8221;<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/nehemiah/4-1.htm">Nehemiah 4:1-3</a></span><br />Now when Sanballat heard that we were rebuilding the wall, he was furious and filled with indignation. He ridiculed the Jews / before his associates and the army of Samaria, saying, &#8220;What are these feeble Jews doing? Can they restore the wall by themselves? Will they offer sacrifices? Will they complete it in a day? Can they bring these burnt stones back to life from the mounds of rubble?&#8221; / Then Tobiah the Ammonite, who was beside him, said, &#8220;If even a fox were to climb up on what they are building, it would break down their wall of stones!&#8221;<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/psalms/118-22.htm">Psalm 118:22</a></span><br />The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.</div><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div><p class="tsk2">And he went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.</p><p class="tskverse"><b><a href="/genesis/32-30.htm">Genesis 32:30,31</a></b></br> And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved&#8230; </p><p class="tskverse"><b><a href="/1_kings/12-25.htm">1 Kings 12:25</a></b></br> Then Jeroboam built Shechem in mount Ephraim, and dwelt therein; and went out from thence, and built Penuel.</p><div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/judges/7-17.htm">Likewise</a> <a href="/judges/6-26.htm">Manner</a> <a href="/genesis/32-31.htm">Peniel</a> <a href="/genesis/32-31.htm">Penuel</a> <a href="/genesis/32-31.htm">Penu'el</a> <a href="/judges/5-25.htm">Request</a> <a href="/titus/2-6.htm">Similarly</a> <a href="/judges/8-6.htm">Succoth</a> <a href="/judges/1-20.htm">Thence</a> <a href="/judges/6-4.htm">Way</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/judges/9-49.htm">Likewise</a> <a href="/judges/8-18.htm">Manner</a> <a href="/judges/8-9.htm">Peniel</a> <a href="/judges/8-9.htm">Penuel</a> <a href="/judges/8-9.htm">Penu'el</a> <a href="/judges/8-24.htm">Request</a> <a href="/2_chronicles/3-12.htm">Similarly</a> <a href="/judges/8-14.htm">Succoth</a> <a href="/judges/18-11.htm">Thence</a> <a href="/judges/8-11.htm">Way</a><div class="vheading2">Judges 8</div><span class="reftext">1. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-1.htm">Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites</a></span><br><span class="reftext">4. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-4.htm">Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon's army</a></span><br><span class="reftext">10. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-10.htm">Zebah and Zalmunna are taken</a></span><br><span class="reftext">13. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-13.htm">Succoth and Penuel are destroyed</a></span><br><span class="reftext">17. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-17.htm">Gideon revenges his brothers's death on Zebah and Zalmunna</a></span><br><span class="reftext">22. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-22.htm">He refuses government</a></span><br><span class="reftext">24. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-24.htm">His ephod the cause of idolatry</a></span><br><span class="reftext">28. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-28.htm">Midian subdued</a></span><br><span class="reftext">29. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-29.htm">Gideon's children, and death</a></span><br><span class="reftext">33. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/judges/8-33.htm">The Israelites' idolatry and ingratitude</a></span><br></div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; 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It is significant in biblical history as the place where Jacob wrestled with God and saw Him face to face (<a href="/genesis/32-30.htm">Genesis 32:30</a>). This encounter marked a pivotal moment in Jacob's life, symbolizing transformation and divine blessing. Gideon's journey to Penuel reflects a continuation of his pursuit of the Midianite kings, emphasizing the relentless nature of his mission. The geographical ascent to Penuel indicates a movement towards a place of historical and spiritual significance, suggesting a parallel between Gideon's struggle and Jacob's encounter with God.<p><b>and asked the same from them</b><br>Gideon's request from the men of Penuel mirrors his earlier request to the men of Succoth for provisions for his weary troops. This repetition underscores the dire need for support in his campaign against the Midianites. The request highlights the communal responsibility and the expectation of mutual aid among the tribes of Israel during times of conflict. It also reflects the broader theme of unity and cooperation that is often challenged in the narrative of the Judges, where tribal divisions and local allegiances frequently hinder collective action.<p><b>but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth</b><br>The refusal of the men of Penuel to assist Gideon parallels the response of the men of Succoth, indicating a widespread reluctance or fear among the Israelites to support Gideon against the Midianites. This response can be seen as a lack of faith or trust in Gideon's leadership and God's deliverance, echoing the recurring theme of Israel's spiritual and moral decline during the period of the Judges. The refusal also sets the stage for Gideon's subsequent actions against these towns, highlighting the consequences of failing to support God's chosen deliverer. This narrative tension reflects the broader biblical theme of obedience and the cost of disobedience, as well as the importance of faith in God's promises and leaders.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <b><a href="/topical/g/gideon.htm">Gideon</a></b><br>The central figure in this passage, Gideon is a judge of Israel who is leading a campaign against the Midianites. He is seeking support from fellow Israelites during his pursuit of the enemy.<br><br>2. <b><a href="/topical/p/penuel.htm">Penuel</a></b><br>A location east of the Jordan River, significant in Israel's history. It is the place where Jacob wrestled with God and was renamed Israel (<a href="/genesis/32-30.htm">Genesis 32:30-31</a>).<br><br>3. <b><a href="/topical/m/men_of_penuel.htm">Men of Penuel</a></b><br>The inhabitants of Penuel who, like the men of Succoth, refuse to assist Gideon and his men in their pursuit of the Midianite kings.<br><br>4. <b><a href="/topical/s/succoth.htm">Succoth</a></b><br>Another location east of the Jordan River, where Gideon first sought help and was refused, leading to his subsequent request at Penuel.<br><br>5. <b><a href="/topical/m/midianites.htm">Midianites</a></b><br>The enemy nation oppressing Israel at this time, whom Gideon is pursuing to deliver Israel from their oppression.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><b><a href="/topical/f/faithfulness_in_leadership.htm">Faithfulness in Leadership</a></b><br>Gideon's persistence in seeking help despite rejection teaches us the importance of perseverance and faithfulness in leadership roles.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/c/community_responsibility.htm">Community Responsibility</a></b><br>The refusal of the men of Penuel highlights the responsibility of communities to support God's work and His appointed leaders.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/c/consequences_of_refusal.htm">Consequences of Refusal</a></b><br>The account warns of the consequences of refusing to support God's mission, as seen later in the chapter when Gideon returns to deal with Penuel.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/t/trust_in_god's_provision.htm">Trust in God's Provision</a></b><br>Despite human refusal, God's plan prevails. This encourages believers to trust in God's provision even when human support is lacking.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/h/historical_and_spiritual_significance.htm">Historical and Spiritual Significance</a></b><br>Understanding the historical and spiritual significance of places like Penuel can deepen our appreciation of God's work throughout biblical history.<div class="vheading2">Lists and Questions</div><a href="/top10/lessons_from_judges_8.htm">Top 10 Lessons from Judges 8</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/what_occurred_at_peniel_in_the_bible.htm">What occurred at Peniel in the Bible?</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/could_300_men_chase_thousands_alone.htm">Judges 8:4-5: Could 300 men realistically pursue thousands of Midianites without proper resources or logistical support?</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/why_conflicting_accounts_of_jerusalem's_capture.htm">In Judges 1:8 versus 1:21, why does it say Judah captured Jerusalem but Benjamin couldn't drive out the Jebusites, leading to conflicting accounts about Jerusalem's conquest?</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/did_jesus_judge_(john_8_15_vs._5_22).htm">Did Jesus judge others? (John 8:15 vs. John 5:22)</a><a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/ellicott/judges/8.htm">Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers</a></div>(8) <span class= "bld">He went up thence to Penuel.</span>--Penuel was also in the tribe of Gad, on the heights above the Jordan valley, on the southern bank of the Jabbok. The name means "face of God," from Jacob's vision (<a href="/genesis/32-30.htm" title="And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.">Genesis 32:30</a>). It is again mentioned as a fortified town in <a href="/1_kings/12-25.htm" title="Then Jeroboam built Shechem in mount Ephraim, and dwelled therein; and went out from there, and built Penuel.">1Kings 12:25</a>, but the site has not been identified.<p><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/pulpit/judges/8.htm">Pulpit Commentary</a></div><span class="cmt_sub_title">Verse 8.</span> - <span class="cmt_word">He went up thence to Penuel</span>. When Jacob was returning from Padan-aram to Canaan he reached Penuel first, and Succoth afterwards (<a href="/genesis/32-30.htm">Genesis 32:30</a>; <a href="/genesis/33-17.htm">Genesis 33:17</a>). Gideon, travelling in the opposite direction from Canaan, naturally reaches Succoth first, and Penuel afterwards. Going from Succoth to Penuel too, he <span class="accented">went up</span> out of the Jordan valley towards the mountains on the east. Penuel appears to have been a place of importance, since Jeroboam repaired its fortifications with a view of retaining his hold on trans-Jordanic Israel (<a href="/1_kings/12-25.htm">1 Kings 12:25</a>). The <span class="accented">tower</span> here mentioned shows it was a strong place, but its exact situation is unknown. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/commentaries/judges/8-8.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a></span><span class="p"><br /><br /><br /></span><a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Hebrew</div><span class="word">From there</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1502;&#1460;&#1513;&#1473;&#1468;&#1464;&#1501;&#1433;</span> <span class="translit">(mi&#353;&#183;&#353;&#257;m)</span><br /><span class="parse">Preposition-m &#124; Adverb<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_8033.htm">Strong's 8033: </a> </span><span class="str2">There, then, thither</span><br /><br /><span class="word">he went up</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1468;&#1463;&#1444;&#1506;&#1463;&#1500;</span> <span class="translit">(way&#183;ya&#183;&#8216;al)</span><br /><span class="parse">Conjunctive waw &#124; Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_5927.htm">Strong's 5927: </a> </span><span class="str2">To ascend, in, actively</span><br /><br /><span class="word">to Penuel</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1508;&#1468;&#1456;&#1504;&#1493;&#1468;&#1488;&#1461;&#1428;&#1500;</span> <span class="translit">(p&#601;&#183;n&#363;&#183;&#8217;&#234;l)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - proper - feminine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_6439.htm">Strong's 6439: </a> </span><span class="str2">Penuel -- 'face of God', a place East of the Jordan, also two Israelites</span><br /><br /><span class="word">and asked</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1456;&#1491;&#1463;&#1489;&#1468;&#1461;&#1445;&#1512;</span> <span class="translit">(way&#183;&#7695;ab&#183;b&#234;r)</span><br /><span class="parse">Conjunctive waw &#124; Verb - Piel - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_1696.htm">Strong's 1696: </a> </span><span class="str2">To arrange, to speak, to subdue</span><br /><br /><span class="word">the same</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1499;&#1468;&#1464;&#1494;&#1465;&#1425;&#1488;&#1514;</span> <span class="translit">(k&#257;&#183;z&#333;&#7791;)</span><br /><span class="parse">Preposition-k &#124; Pronoun - feminine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_2063.htm">Strong's 2063: </a> </span><span class="str2">Hereby in it, likewise, the one other, same, she, so much, such deed, that, </span><br /><br /><span class="word">from them,</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1488;&#1458;&#1500;&#1461;&#1497;&#1492;&#1462;&#1430;&#1501;</span> <span class="translit">(&#8217;a&#774;&#183;l&#234;&#183;hem)</span><br /><span class="parse">Preposition &#124; third person masculine plural<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_413.htm">Strong's 413: </a> </span><span class="str2">Near, with, among, to</span><br /><br /><span class="word">but the men</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1488;&#1463;&#1504;&#1456;&#1513;&#1473;&#1461;&#1443;&#1497;</span> <span class="translit">(&#8217;an&#183;&#353;&#234;)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - masculine plural construct<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_376.htm">Strong's 376: </a> </span><span class="str2">A man as an individual, a male person</span><br /><br /><span class="word">of Penuel</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1508;&#1456;&#1504;&#1493;&#1468;&#1488;&#1461;&#1428;&#1500;</span> <span class="translit">(p&#772;&#601;&#183;n&#363;&#183;&#8217;&#234;l)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - proper - feminine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_6439.htm">Strong's 6439: </a> </span><span class="str2">Penuel -- 'face of God', a place East of the Jordan, also two Israelites</span><br /><br /><span class="word">gave the same response</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1468;&#1463;&#1506;&#1458;&#1504;&#1444;&#1493;&#1468;</span> <span class="translit">(way&#183;ya&#183;&#8216;a&#774;&#183;n&#363;)</span><br /><span class="parse">Conjunctive waw &#124; Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_6030.htm">Strong's 6030: </a> </span><span class="str2">To answer, respond</span><br /><br /><span class="word">as</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1499;&#1468;&#1463;&#1488;&#1458;&#1513;&#1473;&#1462;&#1445;&#1512;</span> <span class="translit">(ka&#183;&#8217;a&#774;&#183;&#353;er)</span><br /><span class="parse">Preposition-k &#124; Pronoun - relative<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_834.htm">Strong's 834: </a> </span><span class="str2">Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that</span><br /><br /><span class="word">the men</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1488;&#1463;&#1504;&#1456;&#1513;&#1473;&#1461;&#1445;&#1497;</span> <span class="translit">(&#8217;an&#183;&#353;&#234;)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - masculine plural construct<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_376.htm">Strong's 376: </a> </span><span class="str2">A man as an individual, a male person</span><br /><br /><span class="word">of Succoth.</span><br /><span class="heb">&#1505;&#1467;&#1499;&#1468;&#1469;&#1493;&#1465;&#1514;&#1475;</span> <span class="translit">(suk&#183;k&#333;&#183;w&#7791;)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - proper - feminine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_5523.htm">Strong's 5523: </a> </span><span class="str2">Succoth -- a city East of the Jordan, also a place in Egypt</span><br /><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><div class="vheading">Links</div><a href="/niv/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 NIV</a><br /><a href="/nlt/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 NLT</a><br /><a href="/esv/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 ESV</a><br /><a href="/nasb/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 NASB</a><br /><a href="/kjv/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 KJV</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="//bibleapps.com/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 BibleApps.com</a><br /><a href="//bibliaparalela.com/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 Biblia Paralela</a><br /><a href="//holybible.com.cn/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 Chinese Bible</a><br /><a href="//saintebible.com/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 French Bible</a><br /><a href="/catholic/judges/8-8.htm">Judges 8:8 Catholic Bible</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/judges/8-8.htm">OT History: Judges 8:8 He went up there to Penuel (Jd Judg. 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