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To discuss an article, please use <i>that</i> article's talk page. <strong>To ask for help with using and editing Wikipedia, use <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">our Teahouse</a>.</strong> Alternatively, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ" title="Wikipedia:FAQ">our FAQ</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none"><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#category_article_inside_category"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">category article inside category</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Category_size"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Category size</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Missing_QA"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Missing QA</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#red_link"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">red link</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Consistent_Spelling"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Consistent Spelling</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Tags & Tagging versus Categorization</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#New"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">New</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Indexing_of_%22Mac%22s_and_%22Mc%22s"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Indexing of "Mac"s and "Mc"s</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Creating_a_category"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Creating a category</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#The_category_template_does_not_appear"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">The category template does not appear</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Categories_on_redirects"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Categories on redirects</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#New_entries_in_a_category"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">New entries in a category</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Joe Taddeo deletion exhibits categorical problem</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Disabling_Category_listing"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Disabling Category listing</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Include_Categories_within_an_article"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Include Categories within an article</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Redirecting <b>To</b> A Category Page</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#Are_%22List_of_...%22_articles_still_needed?"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Are "List of ..." articles still needed?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#What_is_a_%22Start-Class%22"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">What is a "Start-Class"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Category_%22History%22/Snapshot_of_past_contents"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Category "History"/Snapshot of past contents</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">What is the purpose of categories?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Edit_semi-prot_request"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Edit semi-prot request</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Noticeboard"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Noticeboard</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#London_example"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">London example</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Gender_bias_and_other_biases_in_categorizations"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Gender bias and other biases in categorizations</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_%22Category:Submarines_of_the_United_States%22"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Need a subcategory in this main category: "Category:Submarines of the United States"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Portrait_painters_/_artists"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Portrait painters / artists</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">First discuss, or just go ahead?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_the_page?"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">A possibility to enter an alternate term in a category list from the title of the page?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Create a BOT to alphabetize and organize categories automatically</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-30"><a href="#Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP"><span class="tocnumber">29.1</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion re-opened at VPP</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-31"><a href="#Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories"><span class="tocnumber">29.2</span> <span class="toctext">Tech help required to improve categories</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Category:_Character_sets."><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Category: Character sets.</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">This is missing the most important and most obvious</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Please_help_to_add_category/s_to_the_article"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Please help to add category/s to the article</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Auto_update_in_linked_Category"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Auto update in linked Category</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Method for finding pages with no categories set?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Remark_regarding:_Are_%22List_of_...%22_articles_still_needed"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Remark regarding: Are "List of ..." articles still needed</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">There's a DAB link in the edit notice</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Mobile_view_issues"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Mobile view issues</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Number_of_categories?"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Number of categories?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">Section comparing categories with navigational templates</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_November_2019"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2019</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">Where does it actually say you should not just empty a category you don't like?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories."><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">Pages in both Subcategories and Parent Categories.</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#Sortkey_syntax_vs._%22pipe-trick%22"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">Sortkey syntax vs. "pipe-trick"</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-46"><a href="#Proposed_change"><span class="tocnumber">43.1</span> <span class="toctext">Proposed change</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#The_%E2%80%98What_are_categories?%E2%80%99_section_doesn%E2%80%99t_seem_to_actually_answer_the_question"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext">The ‘What are categories?’ section doesn’t seem to actually answer the question</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#Inclusion_of_BADARI_PRASAD_,_Film_singers_NAME"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext">Inclusion of BADARI PRASAD , Film singers NAME</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#Adding_categories_and_subcategories"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext">Adding categories and subcategories</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext">Regarding adding name in the list of cricket commentators</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_August_2022"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext">Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2022</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#Semi-protected_edit_request_on_10_January_2023"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext">Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2023</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(1)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="category_article_inside_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-category_article_inside_category-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-category_article_inside_category-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span>category article inside category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-category_article_inside_category-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: category article inside category" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only 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class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-SamuelWantman-2007-01-06T08:22:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-1 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-1"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category"></span>Please include the question "Should a page be put in a category of the same name?", e.g. should "<a href="/wiki/Cat" title="Cat">Cat</a>" go in <a href="/wiki/Category:Cats" title="Category:Cats">Category:Cats</a>, and maybe mention the use of |* for these cases. <a href="/wiki/User:Kappa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kappa">Kappa</a> 05:24, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC) </p><p>I have looked for an answer in the existing documentation but found none. In my opinion the article with the same name as the category should <b>not</b> be put in the category but in the parent category. The article can be referenced form inside the category by <i>catmore</i> or a link in the description of the category. <a href="/wiki/User:MathMartin" title="User:MathMartin">MathMartin</a> 12:42, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC) </p> <ul><li>Well the point is how to get from the article to the category and its children, and to know that there *is* a category with that name. <a href="/wiki/User:Kappa" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Kappa">Kappa</a> 16:57, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)</li></ul> <p>Ok, I did not realize this. <a href="/wiki/User:MathMartin" title="User:MathMartin">MathMartin</a> 20:41, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>If anyone is still watching, a proposal related to this very topic is being considered at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categorization" title="Wikipedia talk:Categorization">Wikipedia talk:Categorization</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelWantman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SamuelWantman">Samuel Wantman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 6 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:27:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span 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data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelWantman-2007-01-06T08:22:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelWantman-2007-01-06T08:22:00.000Z-category_article_inside_category"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(2)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Category_size" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category_size-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category_size-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"></span>Category size<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category_size-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Category size" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-94' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T15:52:00.000Z-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-2 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-2"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z-Category_size"></span>I think we should have a recommended size for categories (both upper and lower). Right now we have several extremes which are much to large, such as <a href="/wiki/Category:Websites" title="Category:Websites">Category:Websites</a>, and those which are much to small, where the category is so specific there's only one entry. </p><p>I suggest that we give a recommended upper limit of ~150 and a recommended lower limit of ~10. Exceptions to this would be "gateway" categories, which are used as sorting tools (XX by nationality etc.). <a href="/wiki/User:Oberiko" title="User:Oberiko">Oberiko</a> 16:42, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) </p> <dl><dd>In finnish Wikipedia there is practise that even categories where is only 1 article are acceptable in most cases, even there is a rule that says "You should not create categories with only 1 or 2 articles". Some says that it's ok if you can expect that there is more coming in a next few years. I'd like to know what is the original rule about this, or is there any? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:195.197.175.20&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:195.197.175.20 (page does not exist)">195.197.175.20</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z-Category_size" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z-Category_size"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z-Category_size"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T15:52:00.000Z-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"></span>The original feature seems to have been debated at <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categorization_requirements#High_Priority_Requirements" class="extiw" title="meta:Categorization requirements">meta:Categorization requirements#High Priority Requirements</a> (about the 22nd bulleted items). From the behavior of the categories it seems the setting of maximum number of members within a category was rejected. I personally like not setting maximums or minimums ( other than through guidelines based on good sense ) because it emphasizes the Wiki philosophy of freedom to edit. <a href="/wiki/User:Pknkly" title="User:Pknkly">Pknkly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pknkly" title="User talk:Pknkly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T15:52:00.000Z-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:52, 25 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T15:52:00.000Z-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T15:52:00.000Z-195.197.175.20-2007-01-21T00:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(3)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Missing_QA" data-mw-thread-id="h-Missing_QA-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Missing_QA-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"></span>Missing QA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Missing_QA-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Missing QA" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-95' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-3 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-3"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z-Missing_QA"></span>I wanted to find info on whether the article can be categorized with a subcategory and a parent category (i.e. <a href="/wiki/Category:Peace_treaties" title="Category:Peace treaties">Category:Peace treaties</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Polish_peace_treaties&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Polish peace treaties (page does not exist)">Category:Polish peace treaties</a>). I thought it was against our guidelines/MoS, but I can't find any text on any category-related page to prove my point. Any help would be appreciated.--<a href="/wiki/User:Piotrus" title="User:Piotrus">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piotrus" title="User talk:Piotrus"><sup style="color:green;">Talk</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z-Missing_QA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:21, 16 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z-Missing_QA"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z-Missing_QA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pfctdayelise-2005-12-16T04:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"></span>That should be avoided. Articles should only be put in the most specific category applicable. Only very occasionally is it appropriate to also place the article in a (grand,grand,grand-)parent category. I have read this somewhere... *googles* Found it: <i>An article should not be in both a category and its subcategory, for example Microsoft Office is in Category:Microsoft software, so should not also be in Category:Software. An article with the same name as a category should usually belong only to that category, for instance, Deism belongs only in Category:Deism.</i> From <a href="/wiki/Help:Category#When_to_use_categories" title="Help:Category">Help:Category#When_to_use_categories</a>. It's a guideline. <a href="/wiki/User:Pfctdayelise" title="User:Pfctdayelise">pfctdayelise</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Pfctdayelise-2005-12-16T04:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pfctdayelise-2005-12-16T04:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pfctdayelise-2005-12-16T04:45:00.000Z-Piotrus-2005-12-16T04:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z-Missing_QA"></span>In this case there probably should not be duplication. However, The issue is more complicated than this. There are cases where it makes sense to put an article in a category and its parent. For example, <a href="/wiki/Robert_Duvall" title="Robert Duvall">Robert Duvall</a> is in <a href="/wiki/Category:Film_actors" title="Category:Film actors">Category:Film actors</a> as well as its subcategory <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Best_Actor_Oscar&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Best Actor Oscar (page does not exist)">Category:Best Actor Oscar</a>. A proposal related to this very topic is being considered at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categorization" title="Wikipedia talk:Categorization">Wikipedia talk:Categorization</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelWantman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SamuelWantman">Samuel Wantman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z-Missing_QA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 6 January 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z-Missing_QA"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z-Missing_QA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi! I concentrate on categories. I have met so many cases, when I was not sure: ...when I would like remove an article from a category, when the article is put to the subcategory as well. I mean the case of "<a href="/wiki/Category:Peace_treaties" title="Category:Peace treaties">Category:Peace treaties</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Polish_peace_treaties&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Polish peace treaties (page does not exist)">Category:Polish peace treaties</a>" as mentioned higher. I would apprepriate some more detailed guide on this, or to state some WP recommandition! --<a href="/wiki/User:Oashi" title="User:Oashi">Franta Oashi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oashi" title="User talk:Oashi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-SamuelWantman-2006-01-06T02:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Or in other words, see this case: Assume I mean the page <a href="/wiki/Trpisty" class="mw-redirect" title="Trpisty">Trpisty</a>, which is in the <a href="/wiki/Category:Buildings_and_structures_in_the_Czech_Republic" title="Category:Buildings and structures in the Czech Republic">Category:Buildings and structures in the Czech Republic</a>. Now let's assume that the article is also in these two categories <a href="/wiki/Category:Buildings_and_structures_by_country" title="Category:Buildings and structures by country">Category:Buildings and structures by country</a> and <a href="/wiki/Category:Czech_Republic" title="Category:Czech Republic">Category:Czech Republic</a> as well. Now my questions: <dl><dd>1) Are the two latter categories explicitly surplus, thus to be removed? (Either)</dd> <dd>2) As <a href="/wiki/User:SamuelWantman" class="mw-redirect" title="User:SamuelWantman">Samuel Wantman</a> said (see higher), some exceptions can happen, but then shall these be explicitly marked as <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Distinguished_subcategory" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Distinguished subcategory">Distinguished subcategory</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>? (, or.)</dd></dl></dd> <dd>As I understand it now, these two "rules" are mutually exclusive, and there could not appear any other case. Please, confirm. Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Oashi" title="User:Oashi">Franta Oashi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Oashi" title="User talk:Oashi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z-Oashi-2009-07-10T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(4)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="red_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-red_link"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-red_link"></span>red link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-red_link"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: red link" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-96' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span></div><section class="mf-section-4 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-4"> <p>"Category:Main page" has one... Uh, there is no "Category:Main page" . Should we remove this reference in the text? </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(5)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Consistent_Spelling" data-mw-thread-id="h-Consistent_Spelling-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Consistent_Spelling-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z"></span>Consistent Spelling<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Consistent_Spelling-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Consistent Spelling" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-97' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sbrools-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-Consistent_Spelling">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-5 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-5"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbrools-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-Consistent_Spelling"></span>I have made an effort to change all instances of the word "categorisation" or the like to "categorization". I figure that since the name of the article spells it the American way, then it should be consistent throughout the entire article. I don't mind British English, but I prefer the spellings to be the same throughout the article, and I think that if it is inconsistent, it could possibly be distracting to readers. --<a href="/wiki/User:Sbrools" title="User:Sbrools"><b>Sbrools</b></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbrools" title="User talk:Sbrools"><b><span style="color:red;">talk</span></b></a> . <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sbrools" title="Special:Contributions/Sbrools"><b><span style="color:green;">contribs</span></b></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Sbrools-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-Consistent_Spelling" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 27 December 2006 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbrools-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-Consistent_Spelling"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbrools-2006-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-Consistent_Spelling"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(6)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z"><span id="Tags_.26_Tagging_versus_Categorization"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z"></span>Tags & Tagging versus Categorization<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Tags & Tagging versus Categorization" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-98' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Lquilter-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-6 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-6"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lquilter-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization"></span>One of the major confusions I see is people who attempt to use Wikipedia:Categories as tags/keywords. I propose that we need something in the FAQ to clearly set forth the distinction, with examples, and (probably) a link to a somewhat longer "help" page of some sort. --<a href="/wiki/User:Lquilter" title="User:Lquilter">lquilter</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Lquilter-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lquilter-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lquilter-2007-02-03T18:15:00.000Z-Tags_&_Tagging_versus_Categorization"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(7)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="New" data-mw-thread-id="h-New-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span>New<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: New" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-99' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-After_Midnight-2007-02-04T03:06:00.000Z-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-7 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-7"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z-New"></span>This FAQ doesn't seem to explain how you create a new category. How do you do so? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:AstroHurricane001/ASTRO" title="User:AstroHurricane001/ASTRO"><span style="color:blue;">A</span></a><a href="/wiki/User:AstroHurricane001" title="User:AstroHurricane001"><span style="color:Purple;">stroHur</span></a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WPTC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WPTC"><span style="color:Gray;">ricane</span></a><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dinosaurs" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs"><span style="color:green;">00</span></a><a href="/wiki/Comet_McNaught" title="Comet McNaught"><span style="color:Red;">1</span></a><sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AstroHurricane001" title="User talk:AstroHurricane001">Talk</a>+<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001" title="Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001">Contribs</a>+<a href="/wiki/User:AstroHurricane001/Userboxes" title="User:AstroHurricane001/Userboxes">Ubx</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z-New" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z-New"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z-New"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-After_Midnight-2007-02-04T03:06:00.000Z-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span>You can find that information at <a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Help:Category</a>. If you take a look and want some additional assistance, please feel free to drop a note on my talk page. --<a href="/wiki/User:After_Midnight" title="User:After Midnight">After Midnight</a> <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:After_Midnight" title="User talk:After Midnight">0001</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-After_Midnight-2007-02-04T03:06:00.000Z-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-After_Midnight-2007-02-04T03:06:00.000Z-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-After_Midnight-2007-02-04T03:06:00.000Z-AstroHurricane001-2007-02-03T19:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(8)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s' data-mw-thread-id='h-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z'><span id="Indexing_of_.22Mac.22s_and_.22Mc.22s"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z'></span>Indexing of "Mac"s and "Mc"s<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=8" title='Edit section: Indexing of "Mac"s and "Mc"s' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-100' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sam_Blacketer-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-8 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-8"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Sam_Blacketer-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s'></span>There has been a discussion on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN#Macs_and_Mcs" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN">Administrators' Noticeboard</a> about the practice of indexing people with a surname beginning with "Mc". If they are indexed under "Mc" then, when alphabetically sorted, they appear in a different place to the people whose surname begins with "Mac". Real life lists invariably treat the two as the same and effectively read "Mc" as "Mac". I think something could be put in the Categorization FAQ to the effect that a surname beginning with "Mc" should be indexed under "Mac". <a href="/wiki/User:Sam_Blacketer" title="User:Sam Blacketer">Sam Blacketer</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Sam_Blacketer-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z-Indexing_of_%22Mac%22s_and_%22Mc%22s" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Sam_Blacketer-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s'><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Sam_Blacketer-2007-02-21T23:01:00.000Z-Indexing_of_"Mac"s_and_"Mc"s'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(9)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Creating_a_category" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creating_a_category-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Creating_a_category-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z"></span>Creating a category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Creating_a_category-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Creating a category" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-101' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Wran-2009-12-27T03:25:00.000Z-Creating_a_category">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-9 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-9"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z-Creating_a_category"></span>The question "how do I delete a category" is there, but no instructions on how to create one. 2 things: </p><p>1. How do you make a category?<br> 2. This info should be added to the FAQ in the same manner as deleting a category, ie "how do I add a category?" -<a href="/wiki/User:Mike_Payne" title="User:Mike Payne">Mike Payne</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z-Creating_a_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z-Creating_a_category"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z-Creating_a_category"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-After_Midnight-2007-06-07T20:30:00.000Z-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z"></span>Payne's request is still standing. I have some pages that I'd categorize if I knew how. -kdammers</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>The answer is located at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization#How_to_create_categories" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">Wikipedia:Categorization#How to create categories</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:After_Midnight" title="User:After Midnight">After Midnight</a> <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:After_Midnight" title="User talk:After Midnight">0001</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-After_Midnight-2007-06-07T20:30:00.000Z-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-After_Midnight-2007-06-07T20:30:00.000Z-Mike_Payne-2007-04-10T18:02:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless 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href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wran&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wran (page does not exist)">Wran</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wran" title="User talk:Wran">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Wran-2009-12-27T03:25:00.000Z-Creating_a_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wran-2009-12-27T03:25:00.000Z-Creating_a_category"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: The category template does not appear" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-102' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-BozMo-2007-07-27T08:05:00.000Z-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-10 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-10"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z-The_category_template_does_not_appear"></span>I'm trying to fix <a href="/wiki/Aladdin_(video_game)" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Aladdin (video game)">Aladdin (video game)</a>, but the category template does not generate. How can this be fixed? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:67.188.172.165&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:67.188.172.165 (page does not exist)">67.188.172.165</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z-The_category_template_does_not_appear" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z-The_category_template_does_not_appear"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z-The_category_template_does_not_appear"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BozMo-2007-07-27T08:05:00.000Z-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z"></span>I assume this is now ok? --<a href="/wiki/User:BozMo" title="User:BozMo">BozMo</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:BozMo" title="User talk:BozMo">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-BozMo-2007-07-27T08:05:00.000Z-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BozMo-2007-07-27T08:05:00.000Z-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BozMo-2007-07-27T08:05:00.000Z-67.188.172.165-2007-05-01T23:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(11)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Categories_on_redirects" data-mw-thread-id="h-Categories_on_redirects-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Categories_on_redirects-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z"></span>Categories on redirects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Categories_on_redirects-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Categories on redirects" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-103' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Oberiko-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z-Categories_on_redirects">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-11 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-11"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Oberiko-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z-Categories_on_redirects"></span>Hello. Should categories be added to redirect pages, or should that be avoided? <a href="/wiki/User:Oberiko" title="User:Oberiko">Oberiko</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Oberiko-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z-Categories_on_redirects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Oberiko-2007-07-06T15:31:00.000Z-Categories_on_redirects"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: New entries in a category" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-104' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>4 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-12 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-12"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category"></span>Is it possible to "watch" a category, i.e., be notified when new articles have been added to a specific category. --<a href="/wiki/User:KYN" title="User:KYN">KYN</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-After_Midnight-2007-08-01T03:11:00.000Z-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z"></span>You can monitor the category's "Related changes".... --<a href="/wiki/User:After_Midnight" title="User:After Midnight">After Midnight</a> <sup><small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:After_Midnight" title="User talk:After Midnight">0001</a></small></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-After_Midnight-2007-08-01T03:11:00.000Z-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-After_Midnight-2007-08-01T03:11:00.000Z-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-After_Midnight-2007-08-01T03:11:00.000Z-KYN-2007-07-31T19:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category"></span>Yes, this is what I do, but for a large category "Recent changes" may present a full page of edits in the "old" articles and it is rather tedious to see which articles have been added recently to the category. --<a href="/wiki/User:KYN" title="User:KYN">KYN</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z-New_entries_in_a_category"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement 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Clicking 'watch' on a Category adds it to my watchlist, but adding an article to the category doesn't cause anything to show up on my watchlist. It seems reasonable that this should work. --<a href="/wiki/User:CliffC" title="User:CliffC">CliffC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CliffC" title="User talk:CliffC">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-CliffC-2009-08-17T19:18:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 17 August 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CliffC-2009-08-17T19:18:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CliffC-2009-08-17T19:18:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z"></span>Just noting my support for this enhancement. I wonder why this hasn't been done. <a href="/wiki/User:Pknkly" title="User:Pknkly">Pknkly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pknkly" title="User talk:Pknkly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-KYN-2007-08-01T07:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(13)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z"></span>Joe Taddeo deletion exhibits categorical problem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Joe Taddeo deletion exhibits categorical problem" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-105' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Wongaboo-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-13 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-13"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wongaboo-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem"></span>Not sure this discussion belongs here but I didn't know where else to put it: One remarkable thing that is happening on Wikipedia is information that is notable that was collected nowhere else is being collected here. One example of that is <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Recipients_of_US_Distinguished_Flying_Cross&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Recipients of US Distinguished Flying Cross (page does not exist)">Category:Recipients of US Distinguished Flying Cross</a>. Unfortunately, the US government did not keep a cumulative record of DFC recipients, therefore no one knows how many have been awarded or to whom. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://www.dfcsociety.org/home_high.htm">[1]</a> Due to its collaborative nature wikipedia is producing the first ever such list, which is a remarkable, important, and appropriate thing for an encyclopedia to do. As you know, items are not added directly to a category page but instead an article on the item must refer to the category and that produces the entry on the category page. This is a good design except sometimes the articles created for this purpose are inadequately sourced, or seem to fall short of wikipedia's notability guidelines. One solution would be to allow direct editing of category pages and then new entries would only have pages created if there was proper information to flesh out an article. Another solution would be to assume that if the article properly belongs on the category page then it must (categorically) pass the notability and sourcing tests. The administrators should figure that out. Suffice to say, until they do they were out of line deleting the article <a href="/w/index.php?title=Joe_Taddeo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Joe Taddeo (page does not exist)">Joe Taddeo</a>. The only way to put him on the <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Recipients_of_US_Distinguished_Flying_Cross&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Recipients of US Distinguished Flying Cross (page does not exist)">Category:Recipients of US Distinguished Flying Cross</a> page is to leave <a href="/w/index.php?title=Joe_Taddeo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Joe Taddeo (page does not exist)">Joe Taddeo</a> alone. The fact he won the medal is well sourced (I provided a copy of the citation) and the fact he won it is significant to anyone interested in the medal. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wongaboo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wongaboo (page does not exist)">Wongaboo</a> <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">comment</a> was added at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Wongaboo-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:27, 19 October 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wongaboo-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wongaboo-2007-10-19T06:27:00.000Z-Joe_Taddeo_deletion_exhibits_categorical_problem"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(14)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Disabling_Category_listing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disabling_Category_listing-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disabling_Category_listing-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z"></span>Disabling Category listing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disabling_Category_listing-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Disabling Category listing" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-106' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Qyd-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z-Disabling_Category_listing">17 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-14 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-14"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qyd-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z-Disabling_Category_listing"></span>Is there any <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MAGIC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MAGIC">magic word</a> or some other way that would disable category listing for a page? It would be useful in sandboxes or testcase pages, specifically where categories are transcluded by templates (but wouldn't be needed). Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Qyd" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Qyd">Qyd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qyd" title="User talk:Qyd">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Qyd-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z-Disabling_Category_listing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qyd-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z-Disabling_Category_listing"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qyd-2007-11-17T14:12:00.000Z-Disabling_Category_listing"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(15)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Include_Categories_within_an_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-Include_Categories_within_an_article-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Include_Categories_within_an_article-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Include Categories within an article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Include_Categories_within_an_article-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Include Categories within an article" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-107' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:07:00.000Z-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-15 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-15"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z-Include_Categories_within_an_article"></span>is it possible to add a template of a certain category to list all articles related to that category within an article, so that whenever a new article is added to that category, the list of articles is automatically updated in my article? <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.148.97.69" title="Special:Contributions/82.148.97.69">82.148.97.69</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.148.97.69" title="User talk:82.148.97.69">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z-Include_Categories_within_an_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z-Include_Categories_within_an_article"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z-Include_Categories_within_an_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"></span>Interesting "user" solution in place of a programmatic one. Has anyone attempted this? <a href="/wiki/User:Pknkly" title="User:Pknkly">Pknkly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pknkly" title="User talk:Pknkly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z-82.148.97.69-2007-11-19T09:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:07:00.000Z-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z"></span>I think the category tree extension more or less does this. It's described somewhere near the bottom of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAT">WP:CAT</a>. (But changes to the category still won't show up on the watchlist.)--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kotniski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kotniski (page does not exist)">Kotniski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotniski" title="User talk:Kotniski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:07:00.000Z-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:07:00.000Z-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:07:00.000Z-Pknkly-2009-10-25T16:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(16)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Redirecting <b>To</b> A Category Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Redirecting To A Category Page" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-108' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:16:00.000Z-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z">15 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-16 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-16"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page"></span>I was just wondering, is there a way to have a non-category page redirect to a category page (using <i>#REDIRECT [[Category:blahhh]]</i>), and then <b>not</b> be listed in the actual category itself. (Or else it will just go in a big circle). It would be a big help if someone could help me out here. Thanks. :D </p><p>yes im not good please teach me <small>—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/125.60.241.105" title="Special:Contributions/125.60.241.105">125.60.241.105</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:125.60.241.105" title="User talk:125.60.241.105">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z-Redirecting_To_A_Category_Page"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:16:00.000Z-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z"></span>Yes, just precede the word Category with a colon, like when you want to link directly to a category page.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kotniski&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kotniski (page does not exist)">Kotniski</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kotniski" title="User talk:Kotniski">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:16:00.000Z-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kotniski-2009-10-25T20:16:00.000Z-125.60.241.105-2008-08-22T08:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span 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data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Devourer09-2010-10-16T00:50:00.000Z-Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed?">14 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-17 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-17"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Devourer09-2010-10-16T00:50:00.000Z-Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed?'></span>"Lists are still useful for showing "missing" articles." I'm pretty sure <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles" title="Wikipedia:Requested articles">Wikipedia:Requested articles</a> has this problem covered in a much more organized way. So is there still validity to this point? <a href="/wiki/User:Devourer09" title="User:Devourer09"><span style="color:#CC2200">Devourer09</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Devourer09" title="User talk:Devourer09"><span style="color:#CC2200">t</span></a>·<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Devourer09" title="Special:Contributions/Devourer09"><span style="color:#CC2200">c</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Devourer09-2010-10-16T00:50:00.000Z-Are_%22List_of_...%22_articles_still_needed?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Devourer09-2010-10-16T00:50:00.000Z-Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed?'><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Devourer09-2010-10-16T00:50:00.000Z-Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed?'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(18)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='What_is_a_"Start-Class"' data-mw-thread-id='h-What_is_a_"Start-Class"-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z'><span id="What_is_a_.22Start-Class.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-What_is_a_"Start-Class"-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z'></span>What is a "Start-Class"<span data-mw-comment-end='h-What_is_a_"Start-Class"-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=18" title='Edit section: What is a "Start-Class"' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-110' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Francispotter-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z-What_is_a_"Start-Class"">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-18 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-18"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Francispotter-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z-What_is_a_"Start-Class"'></span>I came across a whole bunch of category pages called "Start-Class" Categories. There is no explanation as to what they are, and the discussion pages are all spam. Seems the FAQ should include a definition, and the category pages should include text describing what they are for. -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Francispotter&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Francispotter (page does not exist)">fpotter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Francispotter" title="User talk:Francispotter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Francispotter-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z-What_is_a_%22Start-Class%22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 12 December 2010 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Francispotter-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z-What_is_a_"Start-Class"'><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Francispotter-2010-12-12T15:57:00.000Z-What_is_a_"Start-Class"'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(19)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents' data-mw-thread-id='h-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z'><span id="Category_.22History.22.2FSnapshot_of_past_contents"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z'></span>Category "History"/Snapshot of past contents<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=19" title='Edit section: Category "History"/Snapshot of past contents' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-111' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-4.254.85.27-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-19 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-19"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-4.254.85.27-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents'></span>Due to the nature of the search terms involved with the topic, I found this almost impossible to see if this has been discussed before, perhaps at the village pump? (Search using terms like category, history, snapshots and you'll see what I mean.) </p><p>Histories are a great tool on wikipedia allowing us to read an old state of an article, find all sorts of fascinating tidbits, and allow us to be content in the knowledge that outside of the sometimes necessary surgical removal of unacceptable content (oversight/suppression) in extreme cases, all of the information is preserved at least in some form. (It comes in handy sometimes, like for relocating content deemed inappropriate to dedicated wikis.) </p><p>But for category pages, the history is just about useless. Since categories are formed automatically from the articles & pages, there doesn't appear to be a way to view its past contents. For example: Say <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Guys_named_Ruprecht_with_white_hair&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Guys named Ruprecht with white hair (page does not exist)">Category:Guys named Ruprecht with white hair</a> had 123,456 articles last week. But when I check today I find it has been massively purged down to 123 articles. How can I find out what was there before, either removed or added? As near as I can tell, there's no way, or if there is, it's extremely obscure and hard to find. </p><p>Is there any way to do this? Could there ever be? There are a few category pages I like to visit now and again and without memorizing the whole thing or saving a copy each time I visit, there's no way I can accurately tell what has or hasn't changed since my last visit. Am I the only way to be frustrated by this limitation? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/4.254.85.27" title="Special:Contributions/4.254.85.27">4.254.85.27</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:4.254.85.27&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:4.254.85.27 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-4.254.85.27-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z-Category_%22History%22/Snapshot_of_past_contents" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-4.254.85.27-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents'><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-4.254.85.27-2011-01-26T04:18:00.000Z-Category_"History"/Snapshot_of_past_contents'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(20)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z"><span id="What_is_the_purpose_of_categories.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z"></span>What is the purpose of categories?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: What is the purpose of categories?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-112' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GeorgeLouis-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?">13 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-20 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-20"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeorgeLouis-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?"></span>I read the FAQ under the above title, and I still don't know what the purpose is. I have never used any Category and could not possibly see why I should. I can't figure out the pages or what they refer to. Yours in puzzlement, <a href="/wiki/User:GeorgeLouis" class="mw-redirect" title="User:GeorgeLouis">GeorgeLouis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeorgeLouis" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:GeorgeLouis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-GeorgeLouis-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeorgeLouis-2011-09-29T04:06:00.000Z-What_is_the_purpose_of_categories?"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Monty845-2012-05-02T04:43:00.000Z-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-21 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-21"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z-Edit_semi-prot_request"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Section: What categories already exist?<br> Change [[:Category:Categories]] to [[:Category:Wikipedia categories]]<br> Reason: cleanup after <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_April_8" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 April 8">CFD</a><br> Thanks. --<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.6.211.228" title="Special:Contributions/92.6.211.228">92.6.211.228</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:92.6.211.228" title="User talk:92.6.211.228">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z-Edit_semi-prot_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z-Edit_semi-prot_request"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z-Edit_semi-prot_request"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monty845-2012-05-02T04:43:00.000Z-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z"></span>Done. <a href="/wiki/User:Monty845" title="User:Monty845"><span style="color:green;">Monty</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monty845" title="User talk:Monty845"><small><sub style="color:#A3BFBF;">845</sub></small></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Monty845-2012-05-02T04:43:00.000Z-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monty845-2012-05-02T04:43:00.000Z-92.6.211.228-2012-05-01T13:49:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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id="h-Noticeboard-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z"></span>Noticeboard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Noticeboard-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Noticeboard" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-114' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Jc37-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z-Noticeboard">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-22 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-22"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization/Noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Categorization/Noticeboard"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jc37-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z-Noticeboard"></span>Wikipedia:Categorization/Noticeboard</a></li></ul> <p>Currently, category-related discussions tend to be spread out over the talkpages of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CFD">WP:CFD</a>; <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAT">WP:CAT</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NCCAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NCCAT">WP:NCCAT</a>; <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CLS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CLS">WP:CLS</a>; and elsewhere. Awhile back, it seemed to me that having a category-related noticeboard might be nice, so I cobbled one together. Recently, some helpful person added a notice on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAT">WP:CAT</a> about it. So at this point, I welcome others' thoughts on this. What do you think about it, and if positive, how and where do you think we should notify others of its existence? - <b><a href="/wiki/User:Jc37" title="User:Jc37">jc37</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Jc37-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z-Noticeboard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jc37-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z-Noticeboard"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jc37-2012-05-14T07:00:00.000Z-Noticeboard"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(23)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="London_example" data-mw-thread-id="h-London_example-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-London_example-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z"></span>London example<span data-mw-comment-end="h-London_example-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: London example" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-115' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-DexDor-2012-08-29T20:35:00.000Z-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z">12 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-23 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-23"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z-London_example"></span>Currently the article says <i>" browsing downwards from a list parent category, e.g. <a href="/wiki/Category:Cities" title="Category:Cities">Category:Cities</a>, should only arrive at articles that are about cities, e.g. <a href="/wiki/London" title="London">London</a>, and not related articles e.g. <a href="/wiki/History_of_London" title="History of London">History of London</a>."</i>, but <a href="/wiki/History_of_London" title="History of London">History of London</a> is in the Cities category. Is the example wrong, or which article/category is wrongly categorised ? <a href="/wiki/User:DexDor" title="User:DexDor">DexDor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DexDor" title="User talk:DexDor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z-London_example" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z-London_example"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z-London_example"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DexDor-2012-08-29T20:35:00.000Z-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z"></span>I've changed the page to remove the London example (which didn't match actual practice). <a href="/wiki/User:DexDor" title="User:DexDor">DexDor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DexDor" title="User talk:DexDor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DexDor-2012-08-29T20:35:00.000Z-DexDor-2012-06-15T17:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 29 August 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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<span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-116' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:17:00.000Z-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z">4 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-24 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-24"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z-Gender_bias_and_other_biases_in_categorizations"></span>This is related to the issues raised in the New York Times op-ed <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/opinion/sunday/wikipedias-sexism-toward-female-novelists.html">"Wikipedia’s Sexism Toward Female Novelists"</a>, on perceived bias when female American novelists are moved to their own category "American women novelists", while male novelists remain in the main category, "American novelists". As I pointed out in the talk page for the "American novelists" category, this is a significant problem not just for the category "American Novelists", but any other categorization in Wikipedia that segregates out women or those in a minority demographic group from the main category, but keeps the non-minority men in it. There should be some guidance put in effect to correct all such cases. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Suw7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Suw7 (page does not exist)">Suw7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Suw7" title="User talk:Suw7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z-Gender_bias_and_other_biases_in_categorizations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z-Gender_bias_and_other_biases_in_categorizations"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z-Gender_bias_and_other_biases_in_categorizations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:17:00.000Z-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z"></span>I absolutely, 100% agree. This practice enshrines Male as the unmarked category, which encourages prejudice. It depicts Maleness as the normal or expected gender (of people, or of novelists worth mentioning) and Femaleness as a departure from a normal novelist. It's absolutely sexist and should be systematically fixed. It's the same if Wikipedia constantly points out if somebody is Black or Native American or Asian or Gay, but leaves white people and heterosexuals as the unmarked (hence, normal people) category. And it obscures and ignores the fact that Male is a gender, white is a racial category, and heterosexual is a sexual orientation. ~ <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3" title="Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3">2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:17:00.000Z-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 25 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:17:00.000Z-Suw7-2013-04-25T04:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-43" 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onclick="mfTempOpenSection(25)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_States"' data-mw-thread-id='h-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z'><span id="Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_.22Category:Submarines_of_the_United_States.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z'></span>Need a subcategory in this main category: "<a href="/wiki/Category:Submarines_of_the_United_States" title="Category:Submarines of the United States">Category:Submarines of the United States</a>"<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=25" title='Edit section: Need a subcategory in this main category: "Category:Submarines of the United States"' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-117' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Luz28-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-25 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-25"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Luz28-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta'></span>Hello editors! Analyzing this main category, <b>"<a href="/wiki/Category:Submarines_of_the_United_States" title="Category:Submarines of the United States">Category:Submarines of the United States</a>"</b>, I saw that is missing an important subcategory: <b>"<a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Interwar_submarines_of_the_United_States&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Interwar submarines of the United States (page does not exist)">Category:Interwar submarines of the United States</a>"</b>. So is my tip for this new inclusion of a new subcategory. Good editions! <a href="/wiki/User:Luz28" title="User:Luz28"><span style="color:orange;">Luz28</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luz28" title="User talk:Luz28"><span style="color:red;">Talk me</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Luz28-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_%22Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Luz28-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta'><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Luz28-2014-01-21T17:32:00.000Z-Need_a_subcategory_in_this_main_category:_"Category:Submarines_of_the_United_Sta'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(26)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Portrait_painters_/_artists" data-mw-thread-id="h-Portrait_painters_/_artists-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z"><span id="Portrait_painters_.2F_artists"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Portrait_painters_/_artists-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z"></span>Portrait painters / artists<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Portrait_painters_/_artists-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Portrait painters / artists" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-118' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-CaroleHenson-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z-Portrait_painters_/_artists">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-26 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-26"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaroleHenson-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z-Portrait_painters_/_artists"></span>There are two categories: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Portrait_painters" title="Category:Portrait painters">Category:Portrait painters</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:Portrait_artists" title="Category:Portrait artists">Category:Portrait artists</a></li></ul> <p>I found this out when I began to work on subcategories, by nationality, of the portrait painters category - and then started a conversation at <a href="/wiki/Category_talk:Portrait_painters" title="Category talk:Portrait painters">Category talk:Portrait painters</a>. Should the 2 categories be merged... meaning only have one main category: Portrait artist or Portrait painter, with subcategories by nationality under the main category? Thanks!--<a href="/wiki/User:CaroleHenson" title="User:CaroleHenson"><span style="text-shadow:0 -1px #DDD,1px 0 #DDD,0 1px #DDD,-1px 0 #DDD;"><span style="color:#4997D0;"><i><b>CaroleHenson</b></i></span></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CaroleHenson#top" title="User talk:CaroleHenson"><span style="color:#4997D0;">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-CaroleHenson-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z-Portrait_painters_/_artists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaroleHenson-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z-Portrait_painters_/_artists"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CaroleHenson-2014-01-22T18:33:00.000Z-Portrait_painters_/_artists"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(27)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?" data-mw-thread-id="h-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z"><span id="First_discuss.2C_or_just_go_ahead.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z"></span>First discuss, or just go ahead?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: First discuss, or just go ahead?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-119' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:18:00.000Z-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z">4 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-27 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-27"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"></span>I assume that <a href="/wiki/Category:Judeo-Christian_topics" title="Category:Judeo-Christian topics">Category:Judeo-Christian topics</a> should become as a subcategory of <a href="/wiki/Category:Abrahamic_religions" title="Category:Abrahamic religions">Category:Abrahamic religions</a>, while it's currently the other way around. On the talk page of the category there is a warning that hardly anyone reads talk pages of categories. Then what? Should I just go ahead and make the change without discussing with anyone? Or else, where can I discuss this? <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:09:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"></span>Meanwhile I'm entirely sure that it's wrong because the current categorization has become circular: <a href="/wiki/Category:Christianity" title="Category:Christianity">Category:Christianity</a> is both above and under the categories mentioned in the paragraph before. <a href="/wiki/User:Marcocapelle" title="User:Marcocapelle">Marcocapelle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marcocapelle" title="User talk:Marcocapelle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 23 May 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z-First_discuss,_or_just_go_ahead?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:18:00.000Z-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z"></span>Judeo-Christian either leaves out Islam or only implies it, so yeah it should be the subcategory of Abrahamic, not the other way around. ~ <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3" title="Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3">2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:18:00.000Z-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:18:00.000Z-Marcocapelle-2014-05-23T13:24:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share 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id="h-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z"></span>A possibility to enter an alternate term in a category list from the title of the page?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: A possibility to enter an alternate term in a category list from the title of the page?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-120' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Gregkaye-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-28 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-28"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gregkaye-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th"></span>Maybe I can just cite an example of a difficulty. </p><p>I wanted to enter Superman into the listing for Category:Fictional immigrants to the United States but wanted to let the name in the listing read Clark Kent. After all it is Clark Kent that presumably pays taxes, health insurance etc. Is there any way to do this? <a href="/wiki/User:Gregkaye" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Gregkaye">Gregkaye</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gregkaye" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Gregkaye">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Gregkaye-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gregkaye-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gregkaye-2014-06-07T12:31:00.000Z-A_possibility_to_enter_an_alternate_term_in_a_category_list_from_the_title_of_th"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(29)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically" data-mw-thread-id="h-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z"></span>Create a BOT to alphabetize and organize categories automatically<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Create a BOT to alphabetize and organize categories automatically" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-121' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-IZAK-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-29 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-29"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IZAK-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically"></span>As someone who has been doing this manually for years, I hereby dutifully beg of anyone who is technically proficient and knows how to create and run a bot that will: </p> <ol><li>Automatically sort all <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">Categories</a> <b>on each article and category page</b> alphabetically;</li> <li>Create a uniform system for where to place categories <b>on each article and category page</b> that commence with numbers, such as years of birth/death, centuries, and any category that starts with a number/numeral.</li></ol> <p>Please see the centralized discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_61#Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically" title="Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 61">Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 61#Create a BOT to alphabetize and organize categories automatically</a>. Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:IZAK" title="User:IZAK">IZAK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IZAK" title="User talk:IZAK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-IZAK-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IZAK-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IZAK-2014-08-04T09:00:00.000Z-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span>Discussion re-opened at VPP<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Discussion re-opened at VPP" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IZAK-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP"></span>Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_114#Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 114">Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 114#Create a BOT to alphabetize and organize categories automatically</a>. Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:IZAK" title="User:IZAK">IZAK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IZAK" title="User talk:IZAK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-IZAK-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IZAK-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IZAK-2014-08-05T22:41:00.000Z-Discussion_re-opened_at_VPP"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z"></span>Tech help required to improve categories<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories-Create_a_BOT_to_alphabetize_and_organize_categories_automatically-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Tech help required to improve categories" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IZAK-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories"></span>Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_114#CatVisor" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 114">Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 114#CatVisor</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Paradoctor/CatVisor#Planned_features" title="User:Paradoctor/CatVisor">User:Paradoctor/CatVisor#Planned features</a> if you are willing and able to assist this innovative WP project move along it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:IZAK" title="User:IZAK">IZAK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IZAK" title="User talk:IZAK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-IZAK-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IZAK-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IZAK-2014-08-12T23:08:00.000Z-Tech_help_required_to_improve_categories"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(30)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Category:_Character_sets." data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:_Character_sets.-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:_Character_sets.-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z"></span>Category: <a href="/wiki/Character_sets" class="mw-redirect" title="Character sets">Character sets</a>.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:_Character_sets.-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Category: Character sets." class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-122' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Wordreader-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z-Category:_Character_sets.">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-30 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-30"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wordreader-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z-Category:_Character_sets."></span>I have a program that's asking me if I want to arrange data in which of these character sets: ANSEL, ASCI, or UTF-8. This category does not include these sets amongst those listed, though they are available as articles on Wikipedia: <a href="/wiki/ANSEL" title="ANSEL">ANSEL</a>, <a href="/wiki/UTF-8" title="UTF-8">UTF-8</a>, and <a href="/wiki/ANSI_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="ANSI (disambiguation)">ANSI (disambiguation)</a> (though I don't know which of these ANSI topics is the character set the program speaks of). Perhaps they should be added to the category page? Thank you, <a href="/wiki/User:Wordreader" title="User:Wordreader">Wordreader</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wordreader" title="User talk:Wordreader">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Wordreader-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z-Category:_Character_sets." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wordreader-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z-Category:_Character_sets."><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wordreader-2015-06-07T15:55:00.000Z-Category:_Character_sets."></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(31)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious" data-mw-thread-id="h-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z"></span>This is missing the most important and most obvious<span data-mw-comment-end="h-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: This is missing the most important and most obvious" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-123' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-130.156.141.2-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-31 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-31"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-130.156.141.2-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious"></span>"How do I find categories to choose for the article?" </p> <dl><dd>Here's a list of Categories <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Categories">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Categories</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/130.156.141.2" title="Special:Contributions/130.156.141.2">130.156.141.2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:130.156.141.2" title="User talk:130.156.141.2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-130.156.141.2-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-130.156.141.2-2015-10-28T17:40:00.000Z-This_is_missing_the_most_important_and_most_obvious"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share 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data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Redrose64-2016-04-16T20:40:00.000Z-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z">8 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-32 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-32"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z-Please_help_to_add_category/s_to_the_article"></span>Please help adding category/s to the article. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Anu.kapoor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Anu.kapoor (page does not exist)">Anu.kapoor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anu.kapoor" title="User talk:Anu.kapoor">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z-Please_help_to_add_category/s_to_the_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span 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data-mw-comment-end="c-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z-Please_help_to_add_category/s_to_the_article"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2016-04-16T20:40:00.000Z-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Anu.kapoor&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Anu.kapoor (page does not exist)">Anu.kapoor</a>:</span> This is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TPG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TPG">talk page</a> for discussing improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">FAQ/Categorization</a> page. We do not know what "the article" might be; if you need help editing, try <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:HD">the help desk</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2016-04-16T20:40:00.000Z-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2016-04-16T20:40:00.000Z-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2016-04-16T20:40:00.000Z-Anu.kapoor-2016-04-16T15:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(33)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Auto_update_in_linked_Category" data-mw-thread-id="h-Auto_update_in_linked_Category-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Auto_update_in_linked_Category-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z"></span>Auto update in linked Category<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Auto_update_in_linked_Category-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Auto update in linked Category" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-125' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Olusegun_Ajakaiye-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z-Auto_update_in_linked_Category">7 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-33 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-33"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olusegun_Ajakaiye-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z-Auto_update_in_linked_Category"></span>in creating an article and adding a category to the list, do i need to manually visit the link of the category to update my new information/article or once the category is created will Wikipedia automatically update the default category list/link? <a href="/wiki/User:Olusegun_Ajakaiye" title="User:Olusegun Ajakaiye">Olusegun Ajakaiye</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Olusegun_Ajakaiye" title="User talk:Olusegun Ajakaiye">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Olusegun_Ajakaiye-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z-Auto_update_in_linked_Category" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 27 July 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olusegun_Ajakaiye-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z-Auto_update_in_linked_Category"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olusegun_Ajakaiye-2017-07-27T17:14:00.000Z-Auto_update_in_linked_Category"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(34)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"><span id="Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"></span>Method for finding pages with no categories set?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Method for finding pages with no categories set?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-126' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Redrose64-2017-08-29T19:24:00.000Z-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z">7 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-34 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-34"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?"></span>Is there a way of finding pages where no category has been added? I keep stumbling (on the Gaelic wiki) across pages with no categories but I cannot find a way of just pulling up a "list" so I can fix them all. <a href="/wiki/User:Akerbeltz" title="User:Akerbeltz">Akerbeltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Akerbeltz" title="User talk:Akerbeltz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z-Method_for_finding_pages_with_no_categories_set?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2017-08-29T19:24:00.000Z-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Akerbeltz" title="User:Akerbeltz">Akerbeltz</a>:</span> per the box at the top, do not ask general questions on this page. This page is for discussing the Wikipedia page "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization</a>". <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions"><b>Use <i>this link</i> to find out how to ask questions and get answers</b></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2017-08-29T19:24:00.000Z-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 29 August 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2017-08-29T19:24:00.000Z-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2017-08-29T19:24:00.000Z-Akerbeltz-2017-08-29T11:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(35)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id='Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed' data-mw-thread-id='h-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z'><span id="Remark_regarding:_Are_.22List_of_....22_articles_still_needed"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z'></span>Remark regarding: Are "List of ..." articles still needed<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=37" title='Edit section: Remark regarding: Are "List of ..." articles still needed' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-127' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ajgorhoe-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed">7 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-35 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-35"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-Ajgorhoe-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed'></span>Under this section, one can rad: Lists are still useful for showing "missing" articles. </p><p>This seems strange to me. I thing list have entirely different (maybe complementary) function than categories. By definition, listing things is not the same as categorizing things. Categories may have tree-like structure while lists enumerate items at the same level. Whet concerns list articles, they are very useful on its own. Beside linking to individual elements, they provide additional information for each element, which enables quick and easy comparison! These things can not be mixed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Ajgorhoe" title="User:Ajgorhoe">Ajgorhoe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ajgorhoe" title="User talk:Ajgorhoe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Ajgorhoe-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z-Remark_regarding:_Are_%22List_of_...%22_articles_still_needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-Ajgorhoe-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed'><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-Ajgorhoe-2017-09-02T20:49:00.000Z-Remark_regarding:_Are_"List_of_..."_articles_still_needed'></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(36)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice" data-mw-thread-id="h-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"><span id="There.27s_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"></span>There's a DAB link in the edit notice<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: There's a DAB link in the edit notice" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-128' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T22:08:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z">6 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-36 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-36"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice"></span>To <a href="/wiki/Template" class="mw-disambig" title="Template">template</a> (fyi you can "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange" in <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets</a> > Appearance, which is how I saw this). <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 23 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z-There's_a_DAB_link_in_the_edit_notice"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"></span>Found a better place for discussion, <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Editnotices/Namespace/Category#Is_the_DAB_link_to_template_intentional?" title="Template talk:Editnotices/Namespace/Category">Template talk:Editnotices/Namespace/Category#Is the DAB link to template intentional?</a>. <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T17:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z"></span>I'm unclear why you thought that this was an appropriate page to make the request. If the problem is with <a href="/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Category" title="Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Category">Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Category</a>, the natural place to post is its talk page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 23 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T18:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T22:08:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z"></span>Naturally, and it took me a little while to realize that the edit notice even <i>was</i> a template. Instead, I followed the "See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">FAQ/Categorization</a> for details." link, which is the 1 and only link on the edit notice (other than the dab). <b>~</b> <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:16px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tom.Reding" title="User:Tom.Reding">Tom.Reding</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tom.Reding" title="User talk:Tom.Reding">talk</a> ⋅<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DGAF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DGAF">dgaf</a>)</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T22:08:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T22:08:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tom.Reding-2018-01-23T22:08:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-01-23T21:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(37)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Mobile_view_issues" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mobile_view_issues-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mobile_view_issues-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z"></span>Mobile view issues<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mobile_view_issues-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Mobile view issues" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-129' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Wiki-uk-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z-Mobile_view_issues">6 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-37 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-37"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wiki-uk-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z-Mobile_view_issues"></span>Can something be added on this page to explain why the categoes (and navigation boxes) are (still) not visible in mobile view and in the Apps?<a href="/wiki/User:Wiki-uk" title="User:Wiki-uk">Wiki-uk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wiki-uk" title="User talk:Wiki-uk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Wiki-uk-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z-Mobile_view_issues" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wiki-uk-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z-Mobile_view_issues"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wiki-uk-2018-06-03T07:47:00.000Z-Mobile_view_issues"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(38)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Number_of_categories?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Number_of_categories?-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"><span id="Number_of_categories.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Number_of_categories?-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"></span>Number of categories?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Number_of_categories?-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Number of categories?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-130' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T19:55:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z">6 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>4 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-38 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-38"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Number_of_categories?"></span>How many categories are there? <a href="/wiki/Special:Statistics" title="Special:Statistics">Special:Statistics</a> tells us that there are 46,190,854 total pages in Wikipedia as of 24 October 2018, however it doesn't break that number down by the various namespaces (except for articles). --<a href="/wiki/User:Jameboy" title="User:Jameboy">Jameboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jameboy" title="User talk:Jameboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Number_of_categories?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Number_of_categories?"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z-Number_of_categories?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jameboy" title="User:Jameboy">Jameboy</a>:</span> per the box at the top, do not ask general questions on this page. This page is for discussing the Wikipedia page "<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization</a>". <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions"><b>Use <i>this link</i> to find out how to ask questions and get answers</b></a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 25 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-24T22:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a>:</span> In that case: Is <i>How many categories are there?</i> a frequently asked question that would merit adding to the page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Jameboy" title="User:Jameboy">Jameboy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jameboy" title="User talk:Jameboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 25 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z-Redrose64-2018-10-25T10:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T19:55:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z"></span>No. In nine years, I don't recall it being asked more than two or perhaps three times. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T19:55:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 25 October 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T19:55:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-2018-10-25T19:55:00.000Z-Jameboy-2018-10-25T10:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(39)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z"></span>Section comparing categories with navigational templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Section comparing categories with navigational templates" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-131' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Deisenbe-2019-01-28T11:50:00.000Z-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z">5 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-39 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-39"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates"></span>I had to discover navigational templates the hard way, and that is why I wrote the following. It is intended to replace "Are topic and hierarchy info-boxes still needed?", which I find cryptic. ("While some info-boxes are made redundant, others have useful grouping of the cross-references that cannot be done with categories" is at best poor English.) I would put it at the end of "What are categories?". I hope no one has a problem with it. </p> <blockquote><p>=== Categories compared with navigational templates === </p><p>John Brown's Raid on Harpers Ferry is an <a href="/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry" title="John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry">article</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry" title="Category:John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry">category</a>, and a <a href="/wiki/Template:John_Brown%27s_Raid_on_Harpers_Ferry" title="Template:John Brown's Raid on Harpers Ferry">navigation template</a>. </p><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Template">template</a>, whose name is marked by {{ before and }} after, is a collection of text and/or formatting commands, which technically exist as a page of their own. They are "called" (inserted) by placing the template name, within the <a href="/wiki/Braces_(punctuation)" class="mw-redirect" title="Braces (punctuation)">braces</a>, on a page on which that text is wanted. </p><p>A <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Navigational_template" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Navigational template">navigational template</a> is a collection of links on a single topic, formatted in a standard way, in a box with a border. These links can be arranged in different ways within the box. The box is placed at the right or at the foot of the pages linked in it. </p><p>There are many fewer navigation templates than categories; only important topics have them. There is no requirement that a page be linked in a navigation template, whereas every page must belong to at least one category, and almost always more. </p><p>When appropriate, however, a navigation template organizes links in a far more useful way than categories do. It permits many nuances that categories can not, or can only clumsily. For the reader, a navigation template, if it exists, makes finding related articles much faster. </p><p> Templates are more complicated to create than categories, and the Wikipedian wishing to create one may want to use an existing template as a model.</p></blockquote> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Deisenbe" title="User:Deisenbe">deisenbe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deisenbe" title="User talk:Deisenbe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z-Section_comparing_categories_with_navigational_templates"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement 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href="/wiki/User_talk:Deisenbe" title="User talk:Deisenbe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Deisenbe-2019-01-28T11:50:00.000Z-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Deisenbe-2019-01-28T11:50:00.000Z-Deisenbe-2019-01-21T14:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share 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id="c-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_November_2019"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 30px;height: 30px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="30" data-height="30" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Kansas State University is the flagship university in the state of Kansas. This article incorrectly put Kansas university <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Powercathill&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Powercathill (page does not exist)">Powercathill</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Powercathill&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Powercathill (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_November_2019" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_November_2019"><span id="ooui-php-72" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_5_November_2019"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IVORK-2019-11-05T02:26:00.000Z-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z"></span>Please re-post this on the article in question. This is a page specifically for FAQs about categorization — <span style="text-shadow:red 0em 0em 0.8em"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:IVORK&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:IVORK (page does not exist)"><b style="font-family:Ariel; color:red">IVORK</b></a></span> <sub><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IVORK&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:IVORK (page does not exist)"><b style="font-family:Ariel; color:Green; font-size:x-small">Talk</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-IVORK-2019-11-05T02:26:00.000Z-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 5 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IVORK-2019-11-05T02:26:00.000Z-Powercathill-2019-11-05T01:37:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement 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id="Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z"><span id="Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don.27t_like.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z"></span>Where does it actually say you should not just empty a category you don't like?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Where does it actually say you should not just empty a category you don't like?" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Johnbod-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?">4 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-41 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-41"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnbod-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?"></span>There is a discussion on this, intended to lead to proposed additions on the main category policy pages, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion#Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?" title="Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion">Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion#Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?</a>. After a deal of discussion, voting is underway <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_discussion#New_draft" title="Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion">on a revised draft</a>, the idea being to take it to the policy pages, including here, with approval from Cfd and the project. <a href="/wiki/User:Johnbod" title="User:Johnbod">Johnbod</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Johnbod" title="User talk:Johnbod">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Johnbod-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnbod-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?"><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnbod-2020-08-04T14:15:00.000Z-Where_does_it_actually_say_you_should_not_just_empty_a_category_you_don't_like?"></span> </p> </section><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section section-heading" onclick="mfTempOpenSection(42)"><span class="indicator mf-icon mf-icon-expand mf-icon--small"></span><h2 id="Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories." data-mw-thread-id="h-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories.-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories.-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z"></span>Pages in both Subcategories and Parent Categories.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories.-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Pages in both Subcategories and Parent Categories." class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-134' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159-2020-09-29T03:38:00.000Z-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z">4 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-42 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-42"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories."></span>I've noticed this in <a href="/wiki/Category:Flora_of_Africa" title="Category:Flora of Africa">Category:Flora of Africa</a>, but I figure it's common since I see it in other wikis I edit. For example, something is in Flora of Africa, but also Trees of Africa and Flora of Gabon. My practice has been to keep the page only in the specific subcategories that it fits, taking it out of the parents of those subcategories, and the text on Flora of Africa suggests that's right (at least for that category). But I'd like to initiate a discussion on it (even if it takes years to get a response, eh whatever at least I mentioned it). ~ <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3" title="Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3">2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories."><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z-Pages_in_both_Subcategories_and_Parent_Categories."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z"></span>The short answer is: don't place plant articles in both parent and child categories. So Flora of Africa <i>or</i> Flora of Gabon. The long answer is here: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants/World_Geographical_Scheme_for_Recording_Plant_Distributions" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions">Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions</a>. For specific questions, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants">Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants</a> is the place. <a href="/wiki/User:Declangi" title="User:Declangi">Declangi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Declangi" title="User talk:Declangi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 25 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z-2601:441:4400:1740:E4CA:E4C7:B143:67F3-2020-09-25T03:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-76" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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title="Special:Contributions/2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159">2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159-2020-09-29T03:38:00.000Z-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 29 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:441:4400:1740:DDB7:D288:9240:6159-2020-09-29T03:38:00.000Z-Declangi-2020-09-25T05:09:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-77" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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data-mw-thread-id='h-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z'><span id="Sortkey_syntax_vs._.22pipe-trick.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z'></span>Sortkey syntax vs. "pipe-trick"<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z'></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=45" title='Edit section: Sortkey syntax vs. "pipe-trick"' class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-135' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-DB1729-2021-06-11T14:57:00.000Z-Proposed_change">3 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-43 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-43"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='c-DB1729-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"'></span>This page, in the section <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization#How_do_I_sort_the_article_differently_on_the_category_page?" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization#How do I sort the article differently on the category page?</a>, is conflating the <a href="/wiki/Help:Link#Automatic_conversion_of_wikitext_with_the_pipe_trick" title="Help:Link">pipe trick</a> with the action of using the pipe character "|" for category sorting: </p> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">If most or all categories should be sorted in the same way, use a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DEFAULTSORT" title="Template:DEFAULTSORT">DEFAULTSORT</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag, which looks like {{DEFAULTSORT:Smith, John}}. All categories will then sort under "Smith" unless the "pipe-trick" is used for them (see below).</q></dd></dl> <dl><dd><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">For individual cases use the "pipe-trick": Expand the category notation to include the desired sorting key after a pipe sign (syntax is similar to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Piped_link" title="Wikipedia:Piped link">Wikipedia:piped link</a>, but the effect is different). For example, an article categorized by <code>[[Category:Proper category|Sorting key]]</code> would appear under S within the category.</q></dd></dl> <p>The term "pipe-trick" is twice used incorrectly here. <a href="/wiki/Help:Link#Automatic_conversion_of_wikitext_with_the_pipe_trick" title="Help:Link">Pipe trick</a> is a specific wikilinking trick where the pipe character "|" is used without any characters at all to the right. This auto-generates the label without the parenthetical modifier. Example: <code>[[pipe (computing)|]]</code> is converted to [[pipe (computing)|pipe]] which is rendered as <a href="/wiki/Pipe_(computing)" class="mw-redirect" title="Pipe (computing)">pipe</a>. </p><p>The behavior is different when sorting. The pipe character <i>must</i> be followed by <i>some</i> character for it to have any effect (a blank, for example sorts it to the top). When sorting, a pipe character with no characters at all to the right is equivalent to no pipe character at all. <i>Except</i>, when using <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:HotCat" title="Wikipedia:HotCat">HotCat</a> to remove a sortkey entirely, it is in fact actually <i>required</i> to leave the pipe character where it's at, and remove everything to the right of it. <small>(The fact that removing the pipe restores the sortkey <i>and</i> the pipe without any feedback or indication of failure is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:HotCat/Archive_4#Why_do_I_need_to_include_a_pipe_character_to_remove_an_existing_sort_key?" title="Wikipedia talk:HotCat/Archive 4">an error trap within HotCat that's been ignored in the past</a> and an issue I intend to pursue in the future.)</small> </p><p>Clearly I struggle with explaining things both clearly and concisely. Can someone please help out and reword the section without using the term "pipe-trick". Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:DB1729" title="User:DB1729">DB1729</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DB1729" title="User talk:DB1729">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DB1729-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z-Sortkey_syntax_vs._%22pipe-trick%22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:55, 24 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id='c-DB1729-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"'><span id="ooui-php-78" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end='c-DB1729-2020-12-24T03:55:00.000Z-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"'></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Proposed_change" data-mw-thread-id='h-Proposed_change-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z'><span data-mw-comment-start="" id='h-Proposed_change-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z'></span>Proposed change<span data-mw-comment-end='h-Proposed_change-Sortkey_syntax_vs._"pipe-trick"-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z'></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Proposed change" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DB1729-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z-Proposed_change"></span>Five months and no response. I believe this is important because if an editor simply uses the "pipe-trick" as defined <a href="/wiki/Help:Link#Automatic_conversion_of_wikitext_with_the_pipe_trick" title="Help:Link">here</a>, but on a category, the result would be either: a) no effect, or b) removal of any existing sort key. Both of which are drastically different than the intention. At the very least, it is confusing. </p><p>The simplest fix is to replace 'the "pipe-trick"' with 'a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SORTKEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SORTKEY">sorting key</a>'. I propose changing the existing wording highlighted above to the following: </p> <dl><dd>If most or all categories should be sorted in the same way, use a <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:DEFAULTSORT" title="Template:DEFAULTSORT">DEFAULTSORT</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> tag, which looks like {{DEFAULTSORT:Smith, John}}. All categories will then sort under "Smith" unless a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SORTKEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SORTKEY">sorting key</a> is used for them (see below).</dd></dl> <dl><dd>For individual cases use a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SORTKEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SORTKEY">sorting key</a>: Expand the category notation to include the desired sorting key after a pipe sign (syntax is similar to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Piped_link" title="Wikipedia:Piped link">Wikipedia:piped link</a>, but the effect is different). For example, an article categorized by <code>[[Category:Proper category|Sorting key]]</code> would appear under S within the category.</dd></dl> <p>Note: the current text at the end of the section "See more details at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SORTKEY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SORTKEY">WP:SORTKEY</a>." could then be removed as the link would already be provided.--<a href="/wiki/User:DB1729" title="User:DB1729">DB1729</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DB1729" title="User talk:DB1729">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DB1729-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z-Proposed_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DB1729-2021-06-02T02:54:00.000Z-Proposed_change"><span id="ooui-php-79" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement 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title="User:DB1729">DB1729</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DB1729" title="User talk:DB1729">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DB1729-2021-06-11T14:57:00.000Z-Proposed_change" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 11 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DB1729-2021-06-11T14:57:00.000Z-Proposed_change"><span id="ooui-php-80" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share 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categories?’ section doesn’t seem to actually answer the question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_‘What_are_categories?’_section_doesn’t_seem_to_actually_answer_the_que-2021-04-17T01:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: The ‘What are categories?’ section doesn’t seem to actually answer the question" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-136' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' 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class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-44 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-44"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Engineer_of_Souls-2021-04-17T01:26:00.000Z-The_‘What_are_categories?’_section_doesn’t_seem_to_actually_answer_the_que"></span>After reading through this section, I am still left unclear as to what categories are. Presumably, a referenceable and credible explanation that answers the proposed question would be more desirable instead. Is there one? <a href="/wiki/User:Engineer_of_Souls" title="User:Engineer of Souls">Engineer of Souls</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Engineer_of_Souls" title="User talk:Engineer of Souls">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Engineer_of_Souls-2021-04-17T01:26:00.000Z-The_%E2%80%98What_are_categories?%E2%80%99_section_doesn%E2%80%99t_seem_to_actually_answer_the_que" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Engineer_of_Souls-2021-04-17T01:26:00.000Z-The_‘What_are_categories?’_section_doesn’t_seem_to_actually_answer_the_que"><span id="ooui-php-81" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>3 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-45 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-45"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_BADARI_PRASAD_,_Film_singers_NAME"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>inclusion of BADARI PRASAD, Kannada Film singer's NAME in the play back singers category..thanks ! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/122.171.113.21" title="Special:Contributions/122.171.113.21">122.171.113.21</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:122.171.113.21&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:122.171.113.21 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_BADARI_PRASAD_,_Film_singers_NAME" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:39, 19 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_BADARI_PRASAD_,_Film_singers_NAME"><span id="ooui-php-82" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_BADARI_PRASAD_,_Film_singers_NAME"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PohranicniStraze-2021-07-19T11:36:00.000Z-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z"></span>There does not seem to be an article for that person, and only existing articles can be added to categories. Also please note that this page is not for questions about specific articles. <a href="/wiki/User:PohranicniStraze" title="User:PohranicniStraze">PohranicniStraze</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PohranicniStraze" title="User talk:PohranicniStraze">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-PohranicniStraze-2021-07-19T11:36:00.000Z-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:36, 19 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PohranicniStraze-2021-07-19T11:36:00.000Z-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-83" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PohranicniStraze-2021-07-19T11:36:00.000Z-122.171.113.21-2021-07-19T06:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2021-07-19T11:43:00.000Z-PohranicniStraze-2021-07-19T11:36:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:PohranicniStraze" title="User:PohranicniStraze">PohranicniStraze</a>:</span> I would have used <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:ESp" title="Template:ESp">subst:ESp</a>|mis}}</code> for this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; 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Another editor <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#How_to_create_subcategory_page" title="Wikipedia:Teahouse">asked about creating a subcategory</a> and I was looking up the answer and found this page. There doesn't seem to be info about creating categories or linking subcategories. Can someone add that info? <a href="/wiki/User:Timtempleton" title="User:Timtempleton"><b style="color:#7F007F">TimTempleton</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtempleton" title="User talk:Timtempleton"><sup style="color:#800080">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Timtempleton" title="Special:Contributions/Timtempleton"><sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Timtempleton-2021-07-29T20:56:00.000Z-Adding_categories_and_subcategories" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 29 July 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtempleton-2021-07-29T20:56:00.000Z-Adding_categories_and_subcategories"><span id="ooui-php-85" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive 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data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z"></span>Regarding adding name in the list of cricket commentators<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"> <a role="button" href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Regarding adding name in the list of cricket commentators" class="cdx-button cdx-button--size-large cdx-button--fake-button cdx-button--fake-button--enabled cdx-button--icon-only cdx-button--weight-quiet "> <span class="minerva-icon minerva-icon--edit"></span> <span>edit</span> </a> </span> <span id='ooui-php-139' class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-buttonWidget' data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonMenuSelectWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"ellipsis","data":{"itemConfigs":[{"id":"edit","data":{"id":"edit"},"icon":"edit","label":"Edit"}],"resourceLoaderModules":[]},"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-section-overflowMenuButton"]}'><a role='button' tabindex='0' rel='nofollow' class='oo-ui-buttonElement-button'><span class='oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-ellipsis'></span><span class='oo-ui-labelElement-label'></span><span class='oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator'></span></a></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Redrose64-2022-02-27T22:27:00.000Z-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z">2 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-47 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-47"> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators"></span>Devender Kumar cricket commentator who commentates proficiently on multiple sports including cricket for more than half a decade on international cricket featuring Afghanistan cricket but his name isn't on the Wikipedia list of cricket commentators.. </p><p>Please add it.. There are various newspaper articles featuring his work on the Google <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/182.64.76.197" title="Special:Contributions/182.64.76.197">182.64.76.197</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:182.64.76.197&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:182.64.76.197 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 27 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators"><span id="ooui-php-87" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z-Regarding_adding_name_in_the_list_of_cricket_commentators"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-2022-02-27T22:27:00.000Z-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z"></span>This is the <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk page</a> for discussing improvements to the page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization" title="Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization">Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization</a>. Please make your suggestion at the talk page for the article concerned. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Redrose64-2022-02-27T22:27:00.000Z-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 27 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-2022-02-27T22:27:00.000Z-182.64.76.197-2022-02-27T21:08:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-88" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div><section class="mf-section-48 collapsible-block" id="mf-section-48"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-219.89.83.99-20220829030100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_August_2022"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 30px;height: 30px;" 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Im wanting to know about Maryanne Baker and Patricia Tauroa who were also awarded the NZ Sufferage Centennial Medal. Why there names are Not there on the list <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/219.89.83.99" title="Special:Contributions/219.89.83.99">219.89.83.99</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:219.89.83.99" title="User talk:219.89.83.99">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-219.89.83.99-20220829030100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_August_2022" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-219.89.83.99-20220829030100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_August_2022"><span id="ooui-php-89" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-219.89.83.99-20220829030100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_29_August_2022"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Victor_Schmidt-20220829080900-219.89.83.99-20220829030100"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><noscript><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"></noscript><span class="lazy-image-placeholder" style="width: 20px;height: 20px;" data-src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" data-alt="" data-width="20" data-height="20" data-srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_question_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-class="mw-file-element"> </span></span></span> <b>Not done:</b> it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EDITXY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EDITXY">"change X to Y" format</a> and provide a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources" title="Wikipedia:Reliable sources">reliable source</a> if appropriate. In general, adding a page to a category requires the page to exist. Neither <a href="/w/index.php?title=Maryanne_Baker&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Maryanne Baker (page does not exist)">Maryanne Baker</a> nor <a href="/w/index.php?title=Patricia_Tauroa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Patricia Tauroa (page does not exist)">Patricia Tauroa</a> seems to be an existing page currently. <a href="/wiki/User:Victor_Schmidt" title="User:Victor Schmidt">Victor Schmidt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Victor_Schmidt" title="User talk:Victor Schmidt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-Victor_Schmidt-20220829080900-219.89.83.99-20220829030100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:09, 29 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Victor_Schmidt-20220829080900-219.89.83.99-20220829030100"><span id="ooui-php-90" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement 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Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>Add a person <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DrHawat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DrHawat (page does not exist)">DrHawat</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DrHawat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:DrHawat (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:FAQ/Categorization#c-DrHawat-20230110022100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_10_January_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrHawat-20230110022100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_10_January_2023"><span id="ooui-php-91" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-iconElement oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"icon":"share","label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-icon-share oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrHawat-20230110022100-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_10_January_2023"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PlanetJuice-20230110031300-DrHawat-20230110022100"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DrHawat&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DrHawat (page does not exist)">DrHawat</a>:</span> If you would like to add a biography to a category, please see the instructions on this FAQ page, read the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CAT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CAT">categorization guideline</a>, or seek help on the article's talk page. 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