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Johnson" <></td></tr><tr><td class="lp">Subject</td><td class="rp" itemprop="name">Re: [RFC] : remove unreliable, unused and unmainained arch from kernel.</td></tr></table></td><td></td></tr></table><pre itemprop="articleBody">On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Renate Meijer wrote:<br /><br />><br />> On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:09 PM, linux-os wrote:<br />><br />>><br />>> [PATCH snipped]<br />>><br />>> Cruel joke. Now 80 percent of the Intel clones won't boot.<br />>> Those are the ones that run industry, you know, the stuff that<br />>> is necessary to earn money.<br />>><br />>> Without i386 support, you don't have any embedded systems. You<br />>> need to use the garbage Motorola CPUs and the proprietary<br />>> operating systems in embedded stuff.<br />><br />> Have you checked your calender yet?<br />><br />> Besides... Never heard of ARM? Atmel has a complete line of those,<br />> which seem very usefull.<br /><br />I'm quite aware of the date and time, thank you. The 'i386 architecture<br />is the Intel-like stuff that doesn't have all the newer gee-whiz<br />things that are of little value in the embedded area.<br /><br />And, ARM is an exploded-cost over-hyped RISC device with poor I/O<br />capability that assumes that the world is interfaced in 32-bit<br />chunks. It also can't take advantage of the cost economies that<br />you get from the devices used in the PC mass-market like<br />memory-controllers, PCI-IO bridges and etc.<br /><br />Although these are used in the new "high-definition" TVs I<br />can assure you that there are many more PC components being<br />manufactured now than high-definition TV sets. Eventually,<br />the ARM, or something that supersedes it might make sense.<br />Right not, forget it.<br /><br />So, basically, you guys think you can single-handedly<br />remove Linux from the embedded market and re-do it just<br />for servers? Or are you going to leave some capability<br />for desk-tops, too?<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Dick Johnson<br />Penguin : Linux version 2.6.11 on an i686 machine (5537.79 BogoMips).<br /> Notice : All mail here is now cached for review by Dictator Bush.<br /> 98.36% of all statistics are fiction.<br />-<br />To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in<br />the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org<br />More majordomo info at <a href="http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html">http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html</a><br />Please read the FAQ at <a href="http://www.tux.org/lkml/">http://www.tux.org/lkml/</a><br /><br /></pre></td><td width="32" rowspan="2" class="c" valign="top"><img src="/images/icornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom"> 聽 </td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="bottom">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerl.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="\" /></td><td class="c">聽</td><td class="c" valign="bottom" style="padding-bottom: 0px"><img src="/images/bcornerr.gif" width="32" height="32" alt="/" /></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top" colspan="2"> 聽 </td><td class="lm">Last update: 2005-04-06 13:31 聽聽 [from the cache]<br />漏2003-2020 <a href="http://blog.jasper.es/"><span itemprop="editor">Jasper Spaans</span></a>|hosted at <a href="https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=9a8e99d24cf9">Digital Ocean</a> and my Meterkast|<a href="http://blog.jasper.es/categories.html#lkml-ref">Read the blog</a></td><td>聽</td></tr></table><script language="javascript" src="/js/styleswitcher.js" type="text/javascript"></script></body></html>