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That's what we talk about in this episode.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 5.0.1 Voice" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 5.0.1 Voice" href="/post/5-0-1-voice">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2015-06-24:/post/4-0-1-faith-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/490ec0d0-da78-449f-aa8b-f0b831bf1424.jpg" alt="4.0.1 Faith" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2015-06-24:/post/4-0-1-faith-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/4-0-1-faith">4.0.1 Faith</a></h2><time dateTime="2015-06-24T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">June 24, 2015</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">How does our Faith drive us? Do you have Faith in yourself and your abilities, and how do you know you're on the right path? In this episode of This Developer's Life we offer you two stories.&nbsp;</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 4.0.1 Faith" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 4.0.1 Faith" href="/post/4-0-1-faith">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2013-12-10:/post/3-0-2-space-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/5bc4896a-7817-488d-9f14-f38321e998c4.jpg" alt="3.0.2 Space" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2013-12-10:/post/3-0-2-space-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/3-0-2-space">3.0.2 Space</a></h2><time dateTime="2013-12-10T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">December 10, 2013</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode of This Developer's Life we ask the hard questions about space. Why aren't we on Mars? Why haven't we gone back to the moon? We talk to Paul Lutus, Dan Bricklin, Tamar Cohen, and hear from Ray Bradbury.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 3.0.2 Space" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 3.0.2 Space" href="/post/3-0-2-space">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2013-01-31:/post/3-0-1-cancer-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/c541ea9e-e643-44e6-8bbf-31c63ef254a4.jpg" alt="3.0.1 Cancer" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2013-01-31:/post/3-0-1-cancer-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/3-0-1-cancer">3.0.1 Cancer</a></h2><time dateTime="2013-01-31T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">January 31, 2013</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Big thanks from both my wife and myself for the outpouring of support <a href="http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Cancer.aspx">after our Cancer announcement</a>. Last year was a long year and the Cancer part of the year was particularly long.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 3.0.1 Cancer" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 3.0.1 Cancer" href="/post/3-0-1-cancer">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-09-15:/post/2-0-9-drama-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/2478db59-2f47-49c6-90e6-a3ff3e6f0eaa.jpg" alt="2.0.9 Drama" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-09-15:/post/2-0-9-drama-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-9-drama">2.0.9 Drama</a></h2><time dateTime="2012-09-15T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">September 15, 2012</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Where does drama come from? How do we react to it? How much drama can be created by simple semicolon? This week we explore The Great Semicolon Affair.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.9 Drama" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.9 Drama" href="/post/2-0-9-drama">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-04-09:/post/2-0-8-learn-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/96ba2abf-7c49-4aac-aa23-f7ecfe2b822a.jpg" alt="2.0.8 Learn" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-04-09:/post/2-0-8-learn-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-8-learn">2.0.8 Learn</a></h2><time dateTime="2012-04-09T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">April 9, 2012</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">How many empty brain cells do you have in your head? How capable are you of learning something completely new, and retaining what you already know? Scott and Rob talk to two developers this week who flex their ability to learn to both have fun, and succeed at their career.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.8 Learn" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.8 Learn" href="/post/2-0-8-learn">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-01-04:/post/2-0-7-dinosaurs-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/5cb9836e-d61c-44ca-a44b-3370013554e2.jpg" alt="2.0.7 Dinosaurs" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2012-01-04:/post/2-0-7-dinosaurs-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-7-dinosaurs">2.0.7 Dinosaurs</a></h2><time dateTime="2012-01-04T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">January 4, 2012</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">You're so old! What a dinosaur! You're using old software and old languages to do old things! Or are you? Scott and Rob talk to David Sokol, Sean Bamforth and Pete Brown about Fortran, DataFlex and the Commodore 64. All these dinosaurs are doing useful work. Or, are they?</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.7 Dinosaurs" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.7 Dinosaurs" href="/post/2-0-7-dinosaurs">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-11-15:/post/2-0-6-play-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/a4192801-ea41-40d0-963c-9fd407b1a42f.jpg" alt="2.0.6 Play" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-11-15:/post/2-0-6-play-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-6-play">2.0.6 Play</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-11-15T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">November 15, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">What do you do when you're not staring at your computer screen? What obsession grips you as you drive home? In this episode we ask David Heinemeier Hansson and Pete Brown this very question.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.6 Play" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.6 Play" href="/post/2-0-6-play">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-09-19:/post/2-0-5-typo-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/13f03261-ed6c-4a18-921c-b0fa8876a957.jpg" alt="2.0.5 Typo" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-09-19:/post/2-0-5-typo-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-5-typo">2.0.5 Typo</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-09-19T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">September 19, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Who cares about typefaces and why should you? Well, these guys do and you should start caring. Rob and Scott explore the world of reading online with one of the godfathers in the world of typeface and fonts.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.5 Typo" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.5 Typo" href="/post/2-0-5-typo">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-08-11:/post/2-0-4-taste-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/53ee32ab-563a-49ff-8986-2a48bfe62ad6.jpg" alt="2.0.4 Taste" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-08-11:/post/2-0-4-taste-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-4-taste">2.0.4 Taste</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-08-11T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">August 11, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">What is taste? What is style? Do you have it? Scott and Rob have no idea what it is or how to get it - but they know it's important. In this show they talk to a designer who flexes his good taste for a living - and a developer who is committed to spreading good taste where he can.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.4 Taste" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.4 Taste" href="/post/2-0-4-taste">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-07-08:/post/2-0-3-education-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/f872c00a-251c-48ca-b519-9f806f740095.jpg" alt="2.0.3 Education" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-07-08:/post/2-0-3-education-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-3-education">2.0.3 Education</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-07-08T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">July 8, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Scott and Rob discuss the value of a degree - and talk to two developers who used their passion to pull them through school and into their careers.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.3 Education" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.3 Education" href="/post/2-0-3-education">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-05-13:/post/2-0-2-pressure-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/e49f64e6-e32d-410a-af76-4a78a955fade.jpg" alt="2.0.2 Pressure" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-05-13:/post/2-0-2-pressure-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-2-pressure">2.0.2 Pressure</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-05-13T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">May 13, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Scott and Rob talk to a group of Top Gun developers: the StackOverflow team, about the day their database melted - and how the team responded.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.2 Pressure" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.2 Pressure" href="/post/2-0-2-pressure">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-04-22:/post/2-0-1-criticism-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/6ae33432-c908-4553-9131-bb9081fc1f57.jpg" alt="2.0.1 Criticism" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-04-22:/post/2-0-1-criticism-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/2-0-1-criticism">2.0.1 Criticism</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-04-22T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">April 22, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode we talk to three developers about criticism - some they've given and some they've received. In addition we talk to a very vocal critic of this podcast.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 2.0.1 Criticism" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 2.0.1 Criticism" href="/post/2-0-1-criticism">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-03-22:/post/1-1-5-revolt-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/852267c1-cfa3-4c94-b9db-3c5ac829a1c6.jpg" alt="1.1.5 Revolt" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-03-22:/post/1-1-5-revolt-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-5-revolt">1.1.5 Revolt</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-03-22T17:17:29.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">March 22, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this special episode we explore the Egyptian revolution. We talk to Remon Zakaria about his experience writing software for a day job and overthrowing the government at night. Big thanks to Ahmed Remy and Reem Ahmed for their help. We recorded hours and hours of content to bring you this show. We wish we could have used everyone's story - there were so many.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.1.5 Revolt" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.1.5 Revolt" href="/post/1-1-5-revolt">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-03-03:/post/1-1-4-obsession-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/8f231e3c-a718-4a86-abf6-352291b3befc.jpeg" alt="1.1.4 Obsession" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-03-03:/post/1-1-4-obsession-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-4-obsession">1.1.4 Obsession</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-03-03T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">March 3, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">Rob Sullivan talks about his obsessiveness and how it helps him, and hinders him in his job. Rory Blythe and Scott then talk openly about Rory's compulsion to keep learning - which he has embraced completely.<br><br></div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.1.4 Obsession" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.1.4 Obsession" href="/post/1-1-4-obsession">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-02-10:/post/1-1-3-competition-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/40650f5f-3042-49b1-aa55-dc572cd4ead6.jpg" alt="1.1.3 Competition" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-02-10:/post/1-1-3-competition-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-3-competition">1.1.3 Competition</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-02-10T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">February 10, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode we talk to competitors who are also programmers. Or, programmers who also compete. Are coders pre-wired for this? Jon Skeet, David Fowler, Aaron Jensen and Danielle Banks share their stories.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.1.3 Competition" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.1.3 Competition" href="/post/1-1-3-competition">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-01-28:/post/1-1-2-drive-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/26fe85e3-b5dc-44e2-a592-f246652c821e.jpg" alt="1.1.2 Drive" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-01-28:/post/1-1-2-drive-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-2-drive">1.1.2 Drive</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-01-28T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">January 28, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode Scott and Rob talk to 4 entrepreneurs about the risks they take, and what's happened as a result. Dave Nielsen, Tom Preston-Werner, and Nate and Niki Kohari.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.1.2 Drive" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.1.2 Drive" href="/post/1-1-2-drive">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-01-07:/post/1-1-1-scars-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/d5542778-daad-48f6-8a47-0f7bf162d01a.jpeg" alt="1.1.1 Scars" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2011-01-07:/post/1-1-1-scars-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-1-scars">1.1.1 Scars</a></h2><time dateTime="2011-01-07T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">January 7, 2011</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode Scott and Rob talk to Chad Myers, Chad Fowler, and Doug Rohrer about the scars they've received from dead end projects they've been on. In addition - Sara Chipps contributes her first story for us - interviewing Scott Reynolds.<br><br></div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.1.1 Scars" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.1.1 Scars" href="/post/1-1-1-scars">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2010-12-17:/post/1-1-0-disconnecting-title" class="py-10 sm:py-12"><div class="lg:px-8"><div class="lg:max-w-4xl"><div class="mx-auto px-4 sm:px-6 md:max-w-2xl md:px-4 lg:px-0"><div class="flex flex-col items-start"><p><img src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/3d4be3be-7b4c-486d-a9aa-406ab1ebd6a4.jpg" alt="1.1.0 Disconnecting" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2010-12-17:/post/1-1-0-disconnecting-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-1-0-disconnecting">1.1.0 Disconnecting</a></h2><time dateTime="2010-12-17T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">December 17, 2010</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">This week it's just Scott and me - Scott gets to go off to Disneyland with his wife and 2 boys, and I get to hang out with my girls for a week as their mom goes on a retreat in California.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 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src="https://media.zencastr.com/image-files/6532b7d6e7ebb15eea49bc9a/6cf056e3-129e-4575-9ebd-2844b7053217.jpg" alt="1.0.9 Management" width="250" height="300"/></p><h2 id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2010-12-03:/post/2089407008/1-0-9-management-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-0-9-management">1.0.9 Management</a></h2><time dateTime="2010-12-03T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">December 3, 2010</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode Scott and I talk to technical folks who have moved on up to Management - and what it means to them.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.0.9 Management" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 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id="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2010-11-19:/post/1620026288/1-0-8-motivation-title" class="mt-2 text-lg font-bold text-slate-900"><a href="/post/1-0-8-motivation">1.0.8 Motivation</a></h2><time dateTime="2010-11-19T00:00:00.000Z" class="order-first font-mono text-sm leading-7 text-slate-500">November 19, 2010</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode Scott and I talk to 2 people with fairly different stories, about what motivates them</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.0.8 Motivation" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold 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leading-7 text-slate-500">November 3, 2010</time><div class="mt-1 text-base leading-7 text-slate-700">In this episode Scott and I talk to 3 developers who have pulled off some pretty audacious maneuvers.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.0.7 Audacity" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.0.7 Audacity" href="/post/1-0-7-audacity">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article 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How many layers of abstraction do you need to understand? How many geek trading cards should you have in your collection? To find out more, we talked to 3 prominent, living-history developers.</div><div class="mt-4 flex items-center gap-4"><button type="button" aria-label="Play episode 1.0.6 Abstraction" class="flex items-center gap-x-3 text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900"><svg aria-hidden="true" viewBox="0 0 10 10" class="h-2.5 w-2.5 fill-current"><path d="M8.25 4.567a.5.5 0 0 1 0 .866l-7.5 4.33A.5.5 0 0 1 0 9.33V.67A.5.5 0 0 1 .75.237l7.5 4.33Z"></path></svg><span aria-hidden="true">Listen</span></button><span aria-hidden="true" class="text-sm font-bold text-slate-400">/</span><a class="flex items-center text-sm font-bold leading-6 text-pink-500 hover:text-pink-700 active:text-pink-900" aria-label="Show notes for episode 1.0.6 Abstraction" href="/post/1-0-6-abstraction">Show notes</a></div></div></div></div></div></article><article aria-labelledby="episode-tag:thisdeveloperslife.com,2010-10-11:/post/1270441885/1-0-5-homerun-title" class="py-10 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What a dinosaur! You're using old software and old languages to do old things! Or are you? Scott and Rob talk to David Sokol, Sean Bamforth and Pete Brown about Fortran, DataFlex and the Commodore 64. All these dinosaurs are doing useful work. 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As with most of our mashups I won't link the source but you can find them on any video serving site.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/hallelujah/id260371382?i=260371497\"\u003eJeff Buckley\u003c/a\u003e - Halleluja\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/hymn/id336091367?i=336091949\"\u003eHymn\u003c/a\u003e - Hymn\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/my-momma-told-me/id257906470?i=257906662\"\u003eJag\u003c/a\u003e - My Momma Told Me\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vmi9EqF5nE\"\u003eLow and Spring Heel Jack\u003c/a\u003e - Hand So Small\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"25:T5a9,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eScott and Rob discuss the value of a degree - and talk to two developers who used their passion to pull them through school and into their careers.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/aqueelahgrant\"\u003eAqueelah Grant\u003c/a\u003e QA Specialist at Trimmer Media\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/sethjuarez\"\u003eSeth Juarez\u003c/a\u003e Developer Evangelist at DevExpress\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe music tracks this week are a combination of Fair Use, Royalty-free, and Mashups. 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In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/secret-heat/id80069641?i=80069616\"\u003eJami Sieber\u003c/a\u003e - Secret Heat\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dead-sun/id399882981?i=399883229\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Dead Sun\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe following tracks were used under fair use (played for 30-60 seconds):\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/everlong/id362133451?i=362133505\"\u003eFoo Fighters\u003c/a\u003e - Everlong\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"2e:T69f,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eRob Sullivan talks about his obsessiveness and how it helps him, and hinders him in his job. 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If you like the following tracks, please support the band by buying their CDs.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Zero Sum - Instrumental\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - All The Love In the World - Instrumental\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eOther tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/secret-heat/id80069641?i=80069616\"\u003eJami Sieber\u003c/a\u003e - Secret Heat\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dead-sun/id399882981?i=399883229\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Dead Sun\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe following tracks were used under fair use (played for 30-60 seconds):\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/everlong/id362133451?i=362133505\"\u003eFoo Fighters\u003c/a\u003e - Everlong\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"2f:T7bc,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode we talk to competitors who are also programmers. Or, programmers who also compete. Are coders pre-wired for this? Jon Skeet, David Fowler, Aaron Jensen and Danielle Banks share their stories.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/Default.aspx\"\u003eJon Skeet\u003c/a\u003e shares how he stays at the top of the Stack Overflow points pile\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://weblogs.asp.net/davidfowler/\"\u003eDavid Fowler\u003c/a\u003e talks about TopCode and flying to DisneyWorld to watch coders code\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/aaronjensen\"\u003eAaron Jensen\u003c/a\u003e quits his job to play poker professionally\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/rara718\"\u003eDaniele R. Banks\u003c/a\u003e is just getting started but is already building competing robots\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe featured some remixes this week from Nine Inch Nails which is issued under Creative Commons. The band allows you to download their tracks, remix, them, and then load them back to their site for common consumption. If you like the following tracks, please support the band by buying their CDs.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Only (Richard X Mix)\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - In Motion (Discrete Omni's Angular Momentum Mix)\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Heresy (Instrumental)\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eOther tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. 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Jon Skeet, David Fowler, Aaron Jensen and Danielle Banks share their stories.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/Default.aspx\"\u003eJon Skeet\u003c/a\u003e shares how he stays at the top of the Stack Overflow points pile\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://weblogs.asp.net/davidfowler/\"\u003eDavid Fowler\u003c/a\u003e talks about TopCode and flying to DisneyWorld to watch coders code\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/aaronjensen\"\u003eAaron Jensen\u003c/a\u003e quits his job to play poker professionally\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/rara718\"\u003eDaniele R. Banks\u003c/a\u003e is just getting started but is already building competing robots\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eWe featured some remixes this week from Nine Inch Nails which is issued under Creative Commons. 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In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/mural/id257926716?i=257926728\"\u003eStargarden\u003c/a\u003e - Mural\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/burn/id277014166?i=277014184\"\u003eSwivel Neck Jones\u003c/a\u003e - Burn\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/maybe-itll-rain/id257786649?i=257786909\"\u003eHeavy Mellow\u003c/a\u003e - Maybe It'll Rain\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/maybe-itll-rain/id257786649?i=257786909\"\u003eMatt Hite\u003c/a\u003e - Me and You and Yazoo\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"31:T899,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode Scott and Rob talk to 4 entrepreneurs about the risks they take, and what's happened as a result. Dave Nielsen, Tom Preston-Werner, and Nate and Niki Kohari.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cloudcamp.org/\"\u003eDave Nielsen\u003c/a\u003e tells us about working only for himself and what sleeping on a couch in a basement storeroom feels like\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://tom.preston-werner.com/\"\u003eTom Preston-Werner\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about founding Github and turning down $300,000 from Microsoft\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://blog.agilezen.com/\"\u003eNate and Niki Kohari\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about starting up, and then selling, a tech company while being married\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMost of the the tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SHb6hfOJg\"\u003e2 Many DJs\u003c/a\u003e - Beatles Vs Kraftwerk\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/smiling-perspective/id277102467?i=277102515\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Red Balloon\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails Remixes\u003c/a\u003e - We are Alone/On We March\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://magnatune.com/artists/williamson\"\u003eWilliamson\u003c/a\u003e - 2 percent er\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/linber/id399882981?i=399883232\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Linber\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://magnatune.com/artists/williamson\"\u003eWilliamson\u003c/a\u003e - what's on the ceiling\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.gohomeproductions.co.uk/\"\u003eMark Vidler - Go Home Productions\u003c/a\u003e - The Weather Episode\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe following tracks were used under fair use (played for 30-60 seconds):\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/momma-sed-alive-at-club-nokia/id337433110?i=337433432\"\u003ePuscifer\u003c/a\u003e - Momma Sed\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/killer-inside-me/id15149052?i=15149029\"\u003eMC 900 Foot Jesus\u003c/a\u003e - Buried At Sea\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn addition - we used a few clips from the movie Rushmore. If you haven't seen it - go get it.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Rushmore-Jason-Schwartzman/dp/6305428239\"\u003eWes Anderson\u003c/a\u003e - Rushmore\u003c/p\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"32:T899,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode Scott and Rob talk to 4 entrepreneurs about the risks they take, and what's happened as a result. Dave Nielsen, Tom Preston-Werner, and Nate and Niki Kohari.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.cloudcamp.org/\"\u003eDave Nielsen\u003c/a\u003e tells us about working only for himself and what sleeping on a couch in a basement storeroom feels like\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://tom.preston-werner.com/\"\u003eTom Preston-Werner\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about founding Github and turning down $300,000 from Microsoft\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://blog.agilezen.com/\"\u003eNate and Niki Kohari\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about starting up, and then selling, a tech company while being married\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMost of the the tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38SHb6hfOJg\"\u003e2 Many DJs\u003c/a\u003e - Beatles Vs Kraftwerk\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/smiling-perspective/id277102467?i=277102515\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Red Balloon\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://remix.nin.com/\"\u003eNine Inch Nails Remixes\u003c/a\u003e - We are Alone/On We March\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://magnatune.com/artists/williamson\"\u003eWilliamson\u003c/a\u003e - 2 percent er\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/linber/id399882981?i=399883232\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Linber\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://magnatune.com/artists/williamson\"\u003eWilliamson\u003c/a\u003e - what's on the ceiling\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.gohomeproductions.co.uk/\"\u003eMark Vidler - Go Home Productions\u003c/a\u003e - The Weather Episode\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe following tracks were used under fair use (played for 30-60 seconds):\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/momma-sed-alive-at-club-nokia/id337433110?i=337433432\"\u003ePuscifer\u003c/a\u003e - Momma Sed\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/killer-inside-me/id15149052?i=15149029\"\u003eMC 900 Foot Jesus\u003c/a\u003e - Buried At Sea\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eIn addition - we used a few clips from the movie Rushmore. 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In addition - Sara Chipps contributes her first story for us - interviewing Scott Reynolds.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.lostechies.com/blogs/chad_myers/\"\u003eChad Myers\u003c/a\u003e tells us about one of the first lead positions he had working for a sleazy business guy.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://chadfowler.com/\"\u003eChad Fowler\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about being an imposter\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://girldeveloper.com/\"\u003eSara Chipps\u003c/a\u003e contributes her first story to This Developer's Life, interviewing \u003ca href=\"http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/dreamjobs/\"\u003eScott Reynolds\u003c/a\u003e about his dream jobs\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eDoug Rohrer talks to Scott about bonding under extreme, Enterprise circumstances\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://bootleg.fissunix.com/\"\u003eFissunix\u003c/a\u003e - Whole Sex Lotta Machine\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dreaming-of-this-etherine/id257912517?i=257914704\"\u003eDJ Cary\u003c/a\u003e - Dreaming of This\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/smiling-perspective/id277102467?i=277102515\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Smiling Perspectives\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/linber/id399882981?i=399883232\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Linber\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.myspace.com/djsfrommars\"\u003eDJs From Mars\u003c/a\u003e - Enter Telephone\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"34:T664,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode Scott and Rob talk to Chad Myers, Chad Fowler, and Doug Rohrer about the scars they've received from dead end projects they've been on. In addition - Sara Chipps contributes her first story for us - interviewing Scott Reynolds.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.lostechies.com/blogs/chad_myers/\"\u003eChad Myers\u003c/a\u003e tells us about one of the first lead positions he had working for a sleazy business guy.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://chadfowler.com/\"\u003eChad Fowler\u003c/a\u003e talks to us about being an imposter\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://girldeveloper.com/\"\u003eSara Chipps\u003c/a\u003e contributes her first story to This Developer's Life, interviewing \u003ca href=\"http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/dreamjobs/\"\u003eScott Reynolds\u003c/a\u003e about his dream jobs\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eDoug Rohrer talks to Scott about bonding under extreme, Enterprise circumstances\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes. In addition we have some bootlegs and I've linked to the DJ's websites:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://bootleg.fissunix.com/\"\u003eFissunix\u003c/a\u003e - Whole Sex Lotta Machine\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dreaming-of-this-etherine/id257912517?i=257914704\"\u003eDJ Cary\u003c/a\u003e - Dreaming of This\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/smiling-perspective/id277102467?i=277102515\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Smiling Perspectives\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/linber/id399882981?i=399883232\"\u003eRildrim\u003c/a\u003e - Linber\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.myspace.com/djsfrommars\"\u003eDJs From Mars\u003c/a\u003e - Enter Telephone\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"35:T5e5,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eThis week it's just Scott and me - Scott gets to go off to Disneyland with his wife and 2 boys, and I get to hang out with my girls for a week as their mom goes on a retreat in California.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/general-fuzz/id359064275\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - A Spy in the House of Love\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/general-fuzz/id359064275\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Walking Home\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/days-end/id257797507?i=257798416\"\u003eJohn Williams\u003c/a\u003e - Days End\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrhsPmQT3s\"\u003eMelissa Polinar\u003c/a\u003e - Perfectly Distracted. 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If you like them - please buy them:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/justins-lullabye/id18241285?i=18241279\"\u003eHapa\u003c/a\u003e - Justin's Lullabye\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/justins-lullabye/id18241285?i=18241279\"\u003eHapa\u003c/a\u003e - Ka Uluwehi O Ke Kai\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"36:T5e5,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eThis week it's just Scott and me - Scott gets to go off to Disneyland with his wife and 2 boys, and I get to hang out with my girls for a week as their mom goes on a retreat in California.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/general-fuzz/id359064275\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - A Spy in the House of Love\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/general-fuzz/id359064275\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Walking Home\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/days-end/id257797507?i=257798416\"\u003eJohn Williams\u003c/a\u003e - Days End\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szrhsPmQT3s\"\u003eMelissa Polinar\u003c/a\u003e - Perfectly Distracted. 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If you like them - please buy them:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/justins-lullabye/id18241285?i=18241279\"\u003eHapa\u003c/a\u003e - Justin's Lullabye\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/justins-lullabye/id18241285?i=18241279\"\u003eHapa\u003c/a\u003e - Ka Uluwehi O Ke Kai\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c/p\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"37:T827,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode Scott and I talk to technical folks who have moved on up to Management - and what it means to them.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://markfreedman.com/\"\u003eMark Freedman\u003c/a\u003e shares his story about clawing his way out of a successful career as a manager at a rather large, growing company. A good job, lots of respect, and he hates it.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://weblogs.asp.net/bleroy\"\u003eBertrand LeRoy\u003c/a\u003e talks about charting his own path right at Microsoft after graduating with a PhD in Physics and how he maintains a career right down in the middle of manager and coder.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eTodd Baesen talks about moving from Chemical Engineer to Nuclear Engineer on the USS Enterprise (literally), and then to senior management at a big engineering firm in the SF Bay Area.\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/colors-of-spain/id370502116\"\u003eDaniel Estrem\u003c/a\u003e- Asturias (Leyenda) no. 1 from Cantos de Espana\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-glass-desert/id319950002\"\u003eHarlan Williams\u003c/a\u003e - Beneath the Iron Heel of Pagan Rome\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://magnatune.com/artists/williamson\"\u003eWilliamson\u003c/a\u003e - a please goodbye from whore\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/a-origem-da-natureza-urbana/id364641300\"\u003eUrban Response\u003c/a\u003e - Hunter Gatherer\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/electromelange/id267136559\"\u003eDJ Cary\u003c/a\u003e -Termoli\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/entertainment/id354557016\"\u003eFischerspooner\u003c/a\u003e - Danse en France\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.maxtannone.com/projects/jaydiohead/\"\u003eJaydiohead\u003c/a\u003e - December Backdrifts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/10-000-Days-Tool/dp/B000EULJLU\"\u003eTool\u003c/a\u003e - Rosetta Stoned\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/general-fuzz/id359064275\"\u003eGeneral Fuzz\u003c/a\u003e - Beatdown\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails\u003c/a\u003e - Ghosts\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.maxtannone.com/projects/jaydiohead/\"\u003eJaydiohead\u003c/a\u003e - Life There\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"38:T827,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode Scott and I talk to technical folks who have moved on up to Management - and what it means to them.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://markfreedman.com/\"\u003eMark Freedman\u003c/a\u003e shares his story about clawing his way out of a successful career as a manager at a rather large, growing company. A good job, lots of respect, and he hates it.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://weblogs.asp.net/bleroy\"\u003eBertrand LeRoy\u003c/a\u003e talks about charting his own path right at Microsoft after graduating with a PhD in Physics and how he maintains a career right down in the middle of manager and coder.\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003eTodd Baesen talks about moving from Chemical Engineer to Nuclear Engineer on the USS Enterprise (literally), and then to senior management at a big engineering firm in the SF Bay Area.\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e\u003cp\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe tracks for this week are used under Creative Commons from Magnatunes:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/colors-of-spain/id370502116\"\u003eDaniel Estrem\u003c/a\u003e- Asturias (Leyenda) no. 1 from Cantos de Espana\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-glass-desert/id319950002\"\u003eHarlan Williams\u003c/a\u003e - 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How many layers of abstraction do you need to understand? How many geek trading cards should you have in your collection? To find out more, we talked to 3 prominent, living-history developers.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham\"\u003eWard Cunningham\u003c/a\u003e - creator of the Wiki and major figure in Agile/XP programming\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.charlespetzold.com/\"\u003eCharles Petzold\u003c/a\u003e - author of many books about Windows and prominent speaker\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://danbricklin.com/history/saimiddle.htm\"\u003eDan Bricklin\u003c/a\u003e - 'Superman' according to Scott. 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How many layers of abstraction do you need to understand? How many geek trading cards should you have in your collection? To find out more, we talked to 3 prominent, living-history developers.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham\"\u003eWard Cunningham\u003c/a\u003e - creator of the Wiki and major figure in Agile/XP programming\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://www.charlespetzold.com/\"\u003eCharles Petzold\u003c/a\u003e - author of many books about Windows and prominent speaker\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://danbricklin.com/history/saimiddle.htm\"\u003eDan Bricklin\u003c/a\u003e - 'Superman' according to Scott. 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She works at NASA, programming planetary rovers.\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ol\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://hanselman.com/\"\u003eScott Hanselman\u003c/a\u003e finishes things off with a story about what happens when trouble finds you'\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eSome Notes:\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eI've been asked by the producers of This American Life to kindly change my logo as well as podcast title. In retrospect it seems rather obvious that I should have thought about this - but the short answer is that I didn't know if anyone would really care about this podcast. I also didn't expect the attention it's getting.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eOops.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eI changed the logo - a name change will come soon. 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I'm committed to spotless audio - but I have to work with what my guests have'\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMusic\u003c/p\u003e\u003cul\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails - Ghosts 18\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/elephant/id275230921\"\u003eWhite Stripes - Seven Nation Army\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home\"\u003eNine Inch Nails - Ghosts 12\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wowee-zowee-sordid-sentinels/id203674837\"\u003ePavement - Grave Architecture\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/20-all-time-greatest-hits/id117181\"\u003eJames Brown - Super Bad\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003cli\u003e\u003ca href=\"http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/my-fair-lady/id158862806\"\u003eMy Fair Lady - You Did It\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/li\u003e\u003c/ul\u003e"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"42:T4df,"])</script><script>self.__next_f.push([1,"\u003cp\u003eIn the first story I talk to \u003ca href=\"http://john-sheehan.com/blog/\"\u003eJohn Sheehan\u003c/a\u003e, a developer who's active on Twitter and is establishing himself in the Open Source community.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eThe second story comes from \u003ca href=\"http://www.hanselman.com/blog/\"\u003eScott Hanselman\u003c/a\u003e - one of the biggest names (if not *the* biggest) in the Microsoft community.\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eTechnical Note: You'll notice that the first story's audio isn't ideal. 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