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Need your guidance --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ritijsaini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ritijsaini (page does not exist)">Ritijsaini</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritijsaini" title="User talk:Ritijsaini">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241119144500-Ritijsaini-20241119144200"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ritijsaini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ritijsaini (page does not exist)">Ritijsaini</a>, welcome! How can I help? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241119144500-Ritijsaini-20241119144200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241119144500-Ritijsaini-20241119144200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241119144500-Ritijsaini-20241119144200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair" data-mw-thread-id="h-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair-20241124131900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair-20241124131900"></span>Errors in Ethernet_over_twisted_pair<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair-20241124131900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Errors in Ethernet_over_twisted_pair"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VehicleEngineer-20241124131900-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair"></span>I've noticed 2 errors in the big table of Ethernet variants - for two rather common variants the given information on bandwidth/symbol rate/spectral efficiency is incorrect: 100Base-T1 and 100BAse-TX. See my comment on the article here: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ethernet_over_twisted_pair">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ethernet_over_twisted_pair</a> </p><p>This has been like that for a very long time, and I'm a bit hesitant to just change it now after 10 years - I'm not sure if I'm missing something about the process, but I am sure about the technical properties and there are sources in text books that have it correct (you have to pay for them though; many public sources seem to copy Wikipedia, so on the open internet the incorrect values are found more frequently than the correct ones). <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:VehicleEngineer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:VehicleEngineer (page does not exist)">VehicleEngineer</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:VehicleEngineer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:VehicleEngineer (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-VehicleEngineer-20241124131900-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VehicleEngineer-20241124131900-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VehicleEngineer-20241124131900-Errors_in_Ethernet_over_twisted_pair"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CED_VHS_revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-CED_VHS_revert-20241125202600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CED_VHS_revert-20241125202600"></span>CED VHS revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CED_VHS_revert-20241125202600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: CED VHS revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600-CED_VHS_revert"></span>Hi. I noticed that you reverted my edit on the CED/VHS part. I merely edited the text so it'd look more professional and encyclopedic. </p><p>What mistake did I made to warrant a revert and if you're okay with, suggest me an alternative if my edit didn't work? <a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User talk:HarlambiDaabrev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600-CED_VHS_revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600-CED_VHS_revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600-CED_VHS_revert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241125224200-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600"></span>I assume we're talking about <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phonograph_record&diff=1259514426&oldid=1258572580">this</a>. The original statement was <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">slightly better than <a href="/wiki/VHS" title="VHS">VHS</a></q>. Your revision made it say <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">slightly better than, or comparable to the <a href="/wiki/VHS" title="VHS">VHS</a></q>. The cited source says <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">The subjective evaluation of people familiar with all these formats is that CED is better than VHS</q>. Your revised statment takes us further from what the source says. What were you attempting to accomplish with this edit? You left no <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ES">edit summary</a> that could help me. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241125224200-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241125224200-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241125224200-HarlambiDaabrev-20241125202600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300-Kvng-20241125224200"></span>Fixing the grammar to make it more encyclopedic. If that didn't work, what's the alternative? <a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User talk:HarlambiDaabrev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300-Kvng-20241125224200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300-Kvng-20241125224200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300-Kvng-20241125224200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241126135100-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a>, what was wrong with the grammar? "Encyclopedic" means different things to different editors. What does it mean to you? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241126135100-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241126135100-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241126135100-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126123300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100-Kvng-20241126135100"></span>To me it sounds more professional. Correct me if I'm wrong. <a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User talk:HarlambiDaabrev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100-Kvng-20241126135100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100-Kvng-20241126135100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100-Kvng-20241126135100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241126142000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a>, I'm not getting that. It sounds more ambiguous. I guess if you're in marketing that could translate to more professional. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241126142000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241126142000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241126142000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126141100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700-Kvng-20241126142000"></span>If that's more ambiguous, then what's the alternative? <a href="/wiki/User:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User:HarlambiDaabrev">HarlambiDaabrev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarlambiDaabrev" title="User talk:HarlambiDaabrev">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700-Kvng-20241126142000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:37, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700-Kvng-20241126142000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700-Kvng-20241126142000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241126215000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700"></span>Leaving it as it is is the obvious alternative. Adding the <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">whose picture quality is</q> qualifier is arguably an improvement but I think this is already evident from context. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241126215000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241126215000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241126215000-HarlambiDaabrev-20241126143700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Women_in_Red_December_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Women_in_Red_December_2024-20241129184500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Women_in_Red_December_2024-20241129184500"></span>Women in Red December 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Women_in_Red_December_2024-20241129184500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Women in Red December 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lajmmoore-20241129184500-Women_in_Red_December_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png/100px-WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png/150px-WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png/200px-WiR_Women_who_died_in_2024.png 2x" data-file-width="690" data-file-height="690"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><b><big><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red">Women in Red</a></big></b> <big>|</big> <small>December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325 </small> <p><br/> </p><p><b>Online events:</b> </p> <ul><li><i>New</i>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/324" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/324">Women who died in 2024</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/325" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/325">Religion</a></li></ul> <ul><li><i>Continuing</i>: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/293" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293">#1day1woman</a> <big>|</big> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/294" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294">Education</a> <small>(year-long initiative)</small></li></ul> <p><b>Announcements from other communities</b> </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Religion" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Religion">Women in Religion</a> have a monthly virtual edit-a-thon and the next session is<br/> December 2nd 4:00 - 5:00 p.m. CST. 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It looks like that’s what’s happening. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jgibbons333&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jgibbons333 (page does not exist)">Jgibbons333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jgibbons333" title="User talk:Jgibbons333">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Jgibbons333-20241201050800-Question_from_Jgibbons333_(05:08,_1_December_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jgibbons333-20241201050800-Question_from_Jgibbons333_(05:08,_1_December_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jgibbons333-20241201050800-Question_from_Jgibbons333_(05:08,_1_December_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241201140000-Jgibbons333-20241201050800"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jgibbons333&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jgibbons333 (page does not exist)">Jgibbons333</a>, I'm not sure what <i>holding a pay hostage</i> is but the ultimate place to deal with bad behavior is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ANI">WP:ANI</a>. Please read the suggestions listed there before posting because it is not a fun place to be if you can figure out a better way through the dispute. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241201140000-Jgibbons333-20241201050800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241201140000-Jgibbons333-20241201050800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241201140000-Jgibbons333-20241201050800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)-20241202231600"><span id="Question_from_EditAboutIt_.2823:16.2C_2_December_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)-20241202231600"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EditAboutIt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EditAboutIt (page does not exist)">EditAboutIt</a> (23:16, 2 December 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)-20241202231600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Question from EditAboutIt (23:16, 2 December 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EditAboutIt-20241202231600-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)"></span>Hello, I am attempting to write an article for submission called "virtual organizing" and per Wiki instructions I need to disclose my possible COI as I work in the industry as a certified professional. How do I do this? Thank you --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EditAboutIt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EditAboutIt (page does not exist)">EditAboutIt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EditAboutIt" title="User talk:EditAboutIt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-EditAboutIt-20241202231600-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EditAboutIt-20241202231600-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EditAboutIt-20241202231600-Question_from_EditAboutIt_(23:16,_2_December_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241203032100-EditAboutIt-20241202231600"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EditAboutIt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EditAboutIt (page does not exist)">EditAboutIt</a>, have a look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DISCLOSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DISCLOSE">WP:DISCLOSE</a> ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241203032100-EditAboutIt-20241202231600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241203032100-EditAboutIt-20241202231600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241203032100-EditAboutIt-20241202231600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EditAboutIt-20241203040600-Kvng-20241203032100"></span>Thank you, for your help.</dd> <dd>I am not a paid contributor but I do work in the industry.</dd> <dd>I saw this link you sent me before but, due to my inexperience with Wikipedia, do not understand how to: <ol><li>add "{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Connected_contributor" title="Template:Connected contributor">connected contributor</a>}}" to the page or my edit which I already edited: "professional organizing" or how to</li> <li>add the same required notation of COI in an article I want to add for "virtual organizing" for submission to educate the public about this new technique in professional organizing, or</li> <li>where to add this first submission and new article of "virtual organizing" in my user account for peer review.</li></ol></dd> <dd>Kind Regards, @EditAboutIt <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:EditAboutIt&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:EditAboutIt (page does not exist)">EditAboutIt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EditAboutIt" title="User talk:EditAboutIt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-EditAboutIt-20241203040600-Kvng-20241203032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EditAboutIt-20241203040600-Kvng-20241203032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EditAboutIt-20241203040600-Kvng-20241203032100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 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Thank you for helping out!<br/><small>You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">Feedback Request Service</a> subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRS">removing your name</a>.</small> </p><div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div><p> Message delivered to you with love by <a href="/wiki/User:Yapperbot" title="User:Yapperbot">Yapperbot</a> :) | Is this wrong? Contact <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Naypta" title="User talk:Naypta">my bot operator</a>. | Sent at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Naypta-20241204083000-Feedback_request:_Engineering_and_technology_Good_Article_nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Naypta-20241204083000-Feedback_request:_Engineering_and_technology_Good_Article_nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Naypta-20241204083000-Feedback_request:_Engineering_and_technology_Good_Article_nomination"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_point_of_form" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_point_of_form-20241206214300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_point_of_form-20241206214300"></span>A point of form<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_point_of_form-20241206214300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: A point of form"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MERGECLOSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MERGECLOSE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Викидим-20241206214300-A_point_of_form"></span>WP:MERGECLOSE</a> seems to be quite nonchalant on who can close the merge: <i><b>Any user, including the user who first proposed the merge</b>, may close the discussion and move forward with the merge if enough time (normally one week or more) has elapsed and there has been no discussion or if there is unanimous consent to merge.</i> (italics is mine, but the boldface is original). So, personally, I do not see anything wrong with my closing. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC" title="User:Викидим">Викидим</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC" title="User talk:Викидим">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Викидим-20241206214300-A_point_of_form" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Викидим-20241206214300-A_point_of_form"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Викидим-20241206214300-A_point_of_form"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)-20241208175900"><span id="Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_.2817:59.2C_8_December_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)-20241208175900"></span>Question from <a href="/wiki/User:Changachireretatenda22" title="User:Changachireretatenda22">Changachireretatenda22</a> (17:59, 8 December 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)-20241208175900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Question from Changachireretatenda22 (17:59, 8 December 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)"></span>Hello how do I edit an article here on Wikipedia --<a href="/wiki/User:Changachireretatenda22" title="User:Changachireretatenda22">Changachireretatenda22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Changachireretatenda22" title="User talk:Changachireretatenda22">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900-Question_from_Changachireretatenda22_(17:59,_8_December_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timtrent-20241208181800-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Changachireretatenda22" title="User:Changachireretatenda22">Changachireretatenda22</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page watcher</a>)</small> I have just left you a more than helpful welcome message. I hope it gives you the information you need. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TEAHOUSE">WP:TEAHOUSE</a> is an excellent venue to ask for extra help. 🇺🇦 <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent"><span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent"><span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup></a> 🇺🇦 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Timtrent-20241208181800-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20241208181800-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20241208181800-Changachireretatenda22-20241208175900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208182700-Timtrent-20241208181800"></span>Thanks a lot <a href="/wiki/User:Changachireretatenda22" title="User:Changachireretatenda22">Changachireretatenda22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Changachireretatenda22" title="User talk:Changachireretatenda22">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208182700-Timtrent-20241208181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 8 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208182700-Timtrent-20241208181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Changachireretatenda22-20241208182700-Timtrent-20241208181800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&oldid=1261926470">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&oldid=1261926470</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 8 December 2024, at 18:27<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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