Speaking of Psychology

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What disgusts us and why, with Paul Rozin, PhD</h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" ><p>February 19, 2025</p> <p><img src="/images/paul-rozin_tcm7-335801_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Paul Rozin, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="float: left; width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> “Disgusting” is a flexible word—it could describe everything from a putrid smell to your least-favorite food to a behavior you find immoral. But what does it really mean to be disgusted? Paul Rozin, PhD, talks about where disgust comes from, why some people are more easily disgusted than others, universal triggers of disgust, why the foods we consider disgusting vary by culture, why is gross-out humor can be funny, and more.</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Yuck! 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Organizational psychologist Sunita Sah, PhD, author of <em>Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands Yes</em> , talks about why it can be so hard to speak up and how can you strengthen your resolve and ability to say no when the situation calls for it.</p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="How to say ‘no’: The power of defiance, with Sunita Sah, PhD" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION5711708438&light=true&artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/power-defiance">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <h2 >Episode 318: Understanding and treating chronic pain, with Rachel V. Aaron, PhD</h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>February 5, 2025</p> <p> <img src="/images/rachel-aaron_tcm7-335445_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Rachel V. Aaron, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="float: left; width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> Each year, more than 50 million U.S. adults experience chronic pain. Increasingly, researchers and patients are finding that behavioral treatments and therapies can be an important part of pain treatment. Pain psychologist Rachel V. Aaron, PhD, discusses what effective treatments are available, the link between chronic pain and mental health, how our emotions and life experiences affect pain, and what promising pain treatments may be on the horizon. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Understanding and treating chronic pain, with Rachel V. 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What qualities do the best coaches, teachers, and mentors share? Adam Galinsky, PhD, author of <em>Inspire: The Universal Path for Leading Yourself and Others</em> , discusses why leaders often have even more power than they realize, the universal qualities of good leadership, and how anyone can learn to become a more inspiring leader in their work, as a parent, and in other aspects of their lives. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: How to be an inspiring leader, with Adam Galinsky, PhD" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION8074491281&light=true&artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/inspiring-leader">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <h2 >Episode 316: Can we prevent school shootings? With Dewey Cornell, PhD</h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>January 22, 2025</p> <p> <img src="/images/dewey-cornell_tcm7-335123_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Dewey Cornell, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> From Columbine to Sandy Hook to Uvalde, the list of schools and communities devastated by gun violence grows every year. Dewey Cornell, PhD, an expert in school violence prevention, discusses how schools can respond when faced with a potential threat, and how students, teachers, administrators, and law enforcement can work together to keep schools safe. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Can we prevent school shootings? 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With Terrie Moffitt, PhD</h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>January 15, 2025</p> <p> <img src="/images/terri-moffitt_tcm7-334961_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Terrie Moffitt, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> The Dunedin Multidisciplinary Health and Development Study has been tracking the health and life experiences of more than 1,000 New Zealanders since 1972. Terrie Moffitt, PhD, a professor of psychology at Duke University and one of the leaders of the Dunedin study, discusses what researchers have learned from this remarkable study about how people age, why some of us age faster than others, and how our genes and life experiences shape our physical and mental health and the aging process. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Why do some of us age faster than others? With Terrie Moffitt, PhD" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION9950811445&light=true&artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/aging-process">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <h2 >Episode 314: Dry January: Why more people are taking a break from alcohol, with Richard de Visser, PhD</h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>January 8, 2025</p> <img src="/images/richard-de-visser_tcm7-334817_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Richard de Visser, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> Surgeon General Vivek Murthy has called to add cancer warnings to alcohol labels. For many people, Dry January offers a chance try out a low- or no-alcohol life. Health psychologist Richard de Visser, PhD, talks about what’s driving public interest in Dry January and other “sober curious” trends; how temporarily giving up drinking can affect your mental and physical health; and how to succeed if you’d like to give Dry January a try. </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Dry January: Why more people are taking a break from alcohol, with Richard de Visser, PhD" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION8270295070&light=true&artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/dry-january">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <h2 >Encore episode: Why we get conned and how to avoid it, with Daniel Simons, PhD, and Christopher Chabris, PhD </h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>January 1, 2025</p> <p> <img src="/images/chabris-simons_tcm7-318415_w1024_n.jpg" alt="Daniel Simons, PhD, and Christopher Chabris, PhD" data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="float: left; width: 200px; height: 151px;"/> <em>Speaking of Psychology</em> is taking a winter break, so we’re rerunning some of our favorite episodes from the past. In 2023, I talked to psychologists Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris about why people fall for Ponzi schemes, phishing scams, and other cons, and what you can do to protect yourself. We hope you enjoy this episode from the archives. <em>Speaking of Psychology</em> will be back with new episodes in early January. Thank you for listening. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: Why we get conned and how to avoid it, with Daniel Simons, PhD, and Christopher Chabris, PhD" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION9222383064&light=true&artwork=false" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/frauds-cons">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <h2 >Encore episode: What is borderline personality disorder? With Carla Sharp, PhD </h2> <div class="wysiwyg lengthy" > <p>December 25, 2024</p> <p> <img src="/images/carla-sharp_tcm7-307828_w1024_n.jpeg" alt="Carla Sharp, PhD " data-aspect="0" class="leftImg" style="float: left; width: 100px; height: 100px;"/> <em>Speaking of Psychology</em> is taking a winter break, so we’re rerunning some of our favorite episodes from the past. In 2022, I talked to psychologist Carla Sharp about borderline personality disorder, including how this frequently misunderstood disorder is diagnosed and treated. We hope you enjoy this episode from the archives. <em>Speaking of Psychology</em> will be back with new episodes in early January. Thank you for listening. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" title="Listen to: What is borderline personality disorder? 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But where do they come from and what, if anything, do they mean? Dream researcher Antonio Zadra, PhD, talks about why some people remember their dreams vividly while others don’t remember them at all, whether exploring dreams can offer insight into our waking lives, why nightmares happen and effective treatments for problematic recurring nightmares, understanding lucid dreaming and sleepwalking, and more. </p> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <section class="featureRichItem"> <section class="externalScriptContent" > <iframe title="Listen to: Dreams, nightmares and sleepwalking: What can happen while we sleep, with Antonio Zadra, PhD" frameborder="0" height="200" scrolling="no" src="https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=AMERICANPSYCHOLOGICALASSOCIATION8866375495&artwork=false&light=true" width="100%"></iframe> </section></section> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology/exploring-dreams">Expert bio, transcript, and details<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="article-body" > <div class="featureRichItem "> <div > <div class="rich-formatted-content"> <div class="rich-content"> <p> <a href="https://www.apa.org/search?query=%22speaking%20of%20psychology%22&DocumentType=Podcast&sort=Relevance">View all episodes<i class="fas fa-chevron-right" aria-hidden="true"></i></a> </p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="bottom-date"> <span class="date-item">Last updated: February 2025</span><span class="date-item">Date created: 2013</span> </div> <div class="horizontal-icon-bar" data-ai-region data-ai-area="horizontal-bar"> <div> <a href="#" onclick="publishFacebookWallPost('255440604529709', 'https://www.apa.org/news/podcasts/speaking-of-psychology');" class="social-icon" data-ai-target="facebook" data-ai-action="share"> <i title="Share this on Facebook" class="fab fa-facebook-f"></i> </a> </div> <div> <a href="javascript: openSocialShare('https://twitter.com/share?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.apa.org%2fnews%2fpodcasts%2fspeaking-of-psychology&via=APA&text=Speaking+of+Psychology')" class="social-icon" data-ai-target="twitter" data-ai-action="share"> <i title="Share this on X (formerly Twitter)" class="fab fa-x-twitter"></i> </a> </div> <div>  <a href="javascript: openSocialShare('https://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.apa.org%2fnews%2fpodcasts%2fspeaking-of-psychology&title=Speaking+of+Psychology&summary=This+audio+podcast+series+highlights+the+latest%2c+most+important+and+relevant+psychological+research.')" class="social-icon" data-ai-target="linkedin" data-ai-action="share"> <i title="Share this on LinkedIn" class="fab fa-linkedin-in"></i> </a> </div> <div>  <a href="javascript:openEmail('English');" class="social-icon" data-ai-target="email" data-ai-action="share"> <i title="Email this" class="fas fa-envelope"></i> </a> </div> <div> <a href="javascript:printThis();" class="social-icon" data-ai-target="" data-ai-action="print"> <i title="Print this" class="fas fa-print"></i> </a> </div> </div> <script type="text/plain" class="optanon-category-C0005"> window.fbAsyncInit = function () { FB.init({ appId: 255440604529709, xfbml: true, version: 'v4.0' }); 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