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title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WP_Canada_Banner.svg/200px-WP_Canada_Banner.svg.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="24" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WP_Canada_Banner.svg/300px-WP_Canada_Banner.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/WP_Canada_Banner.svg/400px-WP_Canada_Banner.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="775" data-file-height="94"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div style="border-top: 2px solid black; padding: .2em; font-size: 95%"> <div style="border-bottom: 1px solid #CC0000;text-align:center;font-size:110%; font-weight: bold">General info</div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada">Main page</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada#Templates" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada">Templates</a>)</small></li> <li><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Discussion 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Canada/Members">Members</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Userboxes/Location/Canada" title="Wikipedia:Userboxes/Location/Canada">Userboxes</a>)</small></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada/Help" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Help">Help & tools</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="font-size: 95%;"> <div style="line-height: 1.6em; font-weight: bold; border-top:1px solid #CC0000;margin-top:5px; text-align:center;font-size:110%;"><div style="margin: 0 4em">All project pages</div></div> <div class="mw-collapsible-content" style="border: 1px solid silver; padding: 5px; margin-top: 5px; font-size: 100%;"> <ul><li>Announcements <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canadian_wikipedians%27_notice_board/Requests" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Canadian wikipedians' notice board/Requests">Article requests</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canadian_wikipedians%27_notice_board/Articles_to_improve" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Canadian 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Style<br/>(Canada-related articles)</a></li></ul></li> <li>Templates <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Template:WPCANADA" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:WPCANADA">Project banner</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada/Infoboxes" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Infoboxes">Infoboxes</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada/Stub_templates" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Stub templates">Stubs</a></li></ul></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Canada" title="Category:WikiProject Canada">Project category</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canada" title="Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada">All WP:CA related pages</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Wikimedia Foundation">Collaborators</a> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Canada_Education_Program" title="Wikipedia:Canada Education Program">Education program</a></li> <li><a href="https://ca.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="wmca:">Wikimedia Canada</a></li> <li><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:WikiProject_Canada" class="extiw" title="commons:Commons:WikiProject Canada">Commons Canada Project</a></li></ul></li></ul> </div> </div> </div></div></div> <table align="leftstyle="background:none;""> <tbody><tr> <td><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237879475">.mw-parser-output .tmbox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:#f8eaba;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmbox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-content{border:2px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-style{border:2px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .tmbox-move{border:2px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .tmbox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmbox 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Campbell#Requested move 18 September 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Gordon_Campbell#Requested_move_18_September_2024-20240925122500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:Gordon Campbell#Requested move 18 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SafariScribe-20240925122500-Requested_move_at_Talk:Gordon_Campbell#Requested_move_18_September_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img 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class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024-20240925182400"><span id="Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada.23Requested_move_19_September_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024-20240925182400"></span>Requested move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:LGBT rights in Canada">Talk:LGBT rights in Canada#Requested move 19 September 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024-20240925182400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:LGBT rights in Canada#Requested move 19 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asukite-20240925182400-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:LGBT rights in Canada">Talk:LGBT rights in Canada#Requested move 19 September 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asukite" title="User talk:Asukite"><span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Asukite-20240925182400-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asukite-20240925182400-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asukite-20240925182400-Requested_move_at_Talk:LGBT_rights_in_Canada#Requested_move_19_September_2024"></span> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans-20240928025200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans-20240928025200"></span>Mixing census data whites and Europeans<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans-20240928025200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Mixing census data whites and Europeans"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20240928025200-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans"></span>Pls see <a href="/wiki/Talk:European_Canadians#"European_Canadians"_is_not_limited_to_those_who_specifically_identify_European_ethnic_origins_in_the_census" title="Talk:European Canadians">Talk:European Canadians#‎"European Canadians" is not limited to those who specifically identify European ethnic origins in the census</a> <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Moxy-20240928025200-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20240928025200-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20240928025200-Mixing_census_data_whites_and_Europeans"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Next_Line" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Next_Line-20241022181200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Next_Line-20241022181200"></span>The Next Line<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Next_Line-20241022181200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: The Next Line"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/The_Next_Line" title="The Next Line"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200-The_Next_Line"></span>The Next Line</a> has been unsourced since 2009. "Next Line" + "Kevin Frank" turned up zero results on newspapers.com and GBooks. Google itself even asked "did you mean Kevin Franke" while giving only fan forums, Wikipedia mirrors, and the like. Throwing this out there to see if maybe someone could find something I missed. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200-The_Next_Line" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200-The_Next_Line"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200-The_Next_Line"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ARandomName123-20241022210100-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> On Newspapers.com, if you search <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">"The Next Line"</code> or <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-text mw-content-ltr" style="" dir="ltr">"The Next Line" game show</code> and add a location filter for British Columbia, you'll get a few hits. A lot of them are just TV schedules but there's a few short articles here and there. I'll add a couple to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a>)<sup><span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-ARandomName123-20241022210100-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ARandomName123-20241022210100-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ARandomName123-20241022210100-TenPoundHammer-20241022181200"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600-The_Next_Line"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a>:</span> Weird, I got literally nothing at all when I did "Next Line" + "Kevin Frank". <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600-The_Next_Line" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600-The_Next_Line"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600-The_Next_Line"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ARandomName123-20241023013500-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:TenPoundHammer" title="User:TenPoundHammer">TenPoundHammer</a>:</span> From the articles I've found, none of them mention the host (or any cast members bar one, for that matter) so it wouldn't pop up in searches that specify Kevin Frank. <a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a>)<sup><span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-ARandomName123-20241023013500-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ARandomName123-20241023013500-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ARandomName123-20241023013500-TenPoundHammer-20241023005600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023185500-The_Next_Line"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a>:</span> Good work. I'm not convinced Kevin Frank is notable, but the show definitely is. <span style="color:green"><b>Ten Pound Hammer</b></span> • <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TenPoundHammer" title="User talk:TenPoundHammer">What did I screw up now?</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-TenPoundHammer-20241023185500-The_Next_Line" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023185500-The_Next_Line"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TenPoundHammer-20241023185500-The_Next_Line"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Draft:Apt613" data-mw-thread-id="h-Draft:Apt613-20241024231700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Draft:Apt613-20241024231700"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Apt613" title="Draft:Apt613">Draft:Apt613</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Draft:Apt613-20241024231700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Draft:Apt613"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thriley-20241024231700-Draft:Apt613"></span>I just created a draft for <a href="/wiki/Draft:Apt613" title="Draft:Apt613">Apt613</a>, a news website that covers arts and culture in the Ottawa-Gatineau region. I’d appreciate any help finding sources. I expected to find some from a quick search, but didn’t immediately find any. <a href="/wiki/User:Thriley" title="User:Thriley">Thriley</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thriley" title="User talk:Thriley">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Thriley-20241024231700-Draft:Apt613" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thriley-20241024231700-Draft:Apt613"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thriley-20241024231700-Draft:Apt613"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024-20241031173000"><span id="Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack.23Requested_move_23_October_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024-20241031173000"></span>Requested move at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024" title="Talk:Superstack">Talk:Superstack#Requested move 23 October 2024</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024-20241031173000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Requested move at Talk:Superstack#Requested move 23 October 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asukite-20241031173000-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/30px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/60px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> There is a requested move discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024" title="Talk:Superstack">Talk:Superstack#Requested move 23 October 2024</a> that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🎃<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asukite" title="User talk:Asukite"><span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span></a>🎃 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Asukite-20241031173000-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asukite-20241031173000-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asukite-20241031173000-Requested_move_at_Talk:Superstack#Requested_move_23_October_2024"></span> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" data-mw-thread-id="h-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term-20241101134600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term-20241101134600"></span>Leader of the Opposition - beginning and end of term<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term-20241101134600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Leader of the Opposition - beginning and end of term"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>Following the recent BC election, when exactly does BC United leader <a href="/wiki/Kevin_Falcon" title="Kevin Falcon">Kevin Falcon</a> cease being the Leader of the Opposition in that province? (See <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Falcon&diff=1254742086&oldid=1253999548">[1]</a>) and when does Conservative leader <a href="/wiki/John_Rustad" title="John Rustad">John Rustad</a> become Leader of the Opposition? Do both events occur on the same date and are one or both of the dates: a) September 21, when the previous legislature dissolved b) October 19, when the subsequent election occurred c) upcoming date when the new legislature is reconvened d) some other date in between? <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241101141500-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600"></span>Being leader of the opposition ends when the legislature dissolves, so September 21 is the correct end date for Falcon. But since a person can't <i>lead</i> the opposition until the legislature is in session, Rustad's time doesn't <i>start</i> until the new legislature reconvenes — because the leader of the opposition's entire job takes place in the legislature, and doesn't have outside-of-the-legislature duties at all, being an <i>officer</i> of the legislature doesn't work the same way as being a <i>member</i> of the legislature in that regard. The legislature doesn't have to be in session to be a <i>member</i>, but it <i>does</i> have to be in session to establish <i>officers</i>.<br/>However, since we <i>know</i> that <a href="/wiki/John_Rustad" title="John Rustad">John Rustad</a> will be the new leader of the opposition, you were entirely correct that Rustad's name doesn't need to be entirely commented out of the successor field in Falcon's article — visible name with "pending" after it is indeed the correct way to handle that. In the extremely unlikely event that something changes in the interim, so that Rustad <i>doesn't</i> actually get installed as leader of the opposition and some other Conservative MLA gets that job instead, then we can just change the name in Falcon's successor field if and when that happens. But the legislature does have to <i>convene</i> before there can be a leader of the opposition, so the <i>start</i> date on that job is the date of the legislature <i>convening</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241101141500-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241101141500-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241101141500-Wellington_Bay-20241101134600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Indefatigable-20241101145400-Bearcat-20241101141500"></span>Now I'm wondering if we have the correct dates in the transition of Leader of the Opposition in Alberta from Notley to Gray. Currently our articles say it happened in June, when the NDP leader Nenshi announced it to the media, but although the legislature was in session, it was during the long summer adjournment. Should it be dated to when the fall sitting began in late October? <a href="/wiki/User:Indefatigable" title="User:Indefatigable">Indefatigable</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Indefatigable" title="User talk:Indefatigable">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Indefatigable-20241101145400-Bearcat-20241101141500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Indefatigable-20241101145400-Bearcat-20241101141500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Indefatigable-20241101145400-Bearcat-20241101141500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101160600-Indefatigable-20241101145400"></span>The Alberta legislature was adjourned, not dissolved as it would be leading into an election. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241101160600-Indefatigable-20241101145400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101160600-Indefatigable-20241101145400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241101160600-Indefatigable-20241101145400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241101163600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>We keep the successor in an office infobox <i>hidden</i>, until they've taken office. An RFC on this matter was held a few years ago & the result was to "hide". <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241101163600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241101163600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241101163600-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241103164800-GoodDay-20241101163600"></span>Where and when was this RFC held? I'm aware of no such thing. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241103164800-GoodDay-20241101163600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241103164800-GoodDay-20241101163600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241103164800-GoodDay-20241101163600"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200-Bearcat-20241103164800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span> It's somewhat pedantic to not allow an incoming LOO to be included in LOO lists or as the successor in an infobox. If there was an RFC consensus in the past to comment out the successor in these cases we can revisit it now since I don't see anyone else currently holding this view of what "we" do. Given that we have the LOO position included in the infobox of the person in question as "succeeding" on a future date TBD it's absurd not to have them named in their predecessor's infobox or in general lists of LOOs. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200-Bearcat-20241103164800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200-Bearcat-20241103164800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200-Bearcat-20241103164800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103170400-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200"></span>It isn't pedantic, its what the RFC on the topic called for. But you're free to re-open that topic, as the 2024 US prez election is soon be take place. There, it'll be argued over whether or not to have "Kamala Harris (elect)" or "Donald Trump (elect)" shown in <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a>'s infobox, for roughly six weeks. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103170400-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103170400-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103170400-Wellington_Bay-20241103165200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170600-GoodDay-20241103170400"></span>This is how it's pedantic: the infobox in <a href="/wiki/Glen_Savoie" title="Glen Savoie">Glen Savoie</a> indicates he is "assuming office" as NB LOO on a TBD date but the <a href="/wiki/Susan_Holt" title="Susan Holt">Susan Holt</a> infobox lists no successor for her as LOO and the list of LOOs at <a href="/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(New_Brunswick)" title="Leader of the Opposition (New Brunswick)">Leader of the Opposition (New Brunswick)</a> has had Savoie's entry commented out. This is inconsistent and makes no sense. If the next LOO is known they should be listed in both articles, with a qualification that their appointment is pending or starts at a future date. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170600-GoodDay-20241103170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170600-GoodDay-20241103170400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170600-GoodDay-20241103170400"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800-GoodDay-20241103170400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a>:</span> "its what the RFC on the topic called". I reiterate Bearcat's request that you provide a link to that RFC. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800-GoodDay-20241103170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800-GoodDay-20241103170400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800-GoodDay-20241103170400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103171000-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800"></span>I can't find it at the moment. But if you don't like it, then open up a <i>new</i> RFC. The matter covers all political office/positions. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103171000-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103171000-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103171000-Wellington_Bay-20241103170800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300-GoodDay-20241103171000"></span>I'm sorry but if you're going to cite an RFC for your actions you need to provide a link rather than expect people to rely on your recollection and interpretation. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300-GoodDay-20241103171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300-GoodDay-20241103171000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300-GoodDay-20241103171000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103171600-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300"></span>Why is it usually <i>you</i>, who can't leave well enough alone? Anyways, I'm gonna have to go through my edit history to find it, now. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103171600-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103171600-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103171600-Wellington_Bay-20241103171300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800-GoodDay-20241103171600"></span>Because the position your are enforcing is inconsistent, as explained above, and you have reverted multiple editors claiming in edit summaries that this is how "we" do things- but when you're the only one who has voiced the position, it looks like "we" may just be "you". <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800-GoodDay-20241103171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800-GoodDay-20241103171600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800-GoodDay-20241103171600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103172200-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800"></span>Will you <i>please</i> wait. I can't go through my edit history that quick. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103172200-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103172200-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103172200-Wellington_Bay-20241103171800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400-GoodDay-20241103172200"></span>Also the fact that it's you, alone, vs multiple editors tells me that your edits are actually against consensus. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400-GoodDay-20241103172200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400-GoodDay-20241103172200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400-GoodDay-20241103172200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103173000-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"></span>In the meantime. I've brought your complaint to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Elections_and_Referendums" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums">Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referendums</a> board. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103173000-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103173000-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103173000-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103180900-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"></span>Sorry for getting a tad annoyed, earlier. I tend to get grumpy, when I think my honesty is being questioned. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103180900-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103180900-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103180900-Wellington_Bay-20241103172400"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103175000-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>I should have been clearer. I wasn't questioning your honesty or good faith. I just prefer to see the discussion or RFC being relied upon for myself rather than rely on anyone's recollection or interpretation of a discussion that occurred years ago, including my own recollection. 20:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Here's the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_175#RfC:_Interim_use_of_successor_in_Infobox_officeholder" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 175">RFC-in-question</a>, opened by <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss">Mandruss</a>:</span> who should be notified. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103175000-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103175000-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103175000-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300-GoodDay-20241103175000"></span>The discussion in the RFC is almost entirely about elected officials, in particular the President of the United States, rather than parliamentary officers or officials. The LOO is the leader (interim or other) of the largest opposition party provided that individual is a sitting member of the legislature. The incoming LOOs we are talking about are their party's leader and are also MLAs. That they are not "officially" LOO yet is a purely pro forma issue as the legislatures have not yet been recalled. I think this is an area where we can have a Canadian consensus rather than automatically apply a much broader RFC. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300-GoodDay-20241103175000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300-GoodDay-20241103175000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300-GoodDay-20241103175000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241103181800-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300"></span>It's about all offices. Bring your objections there & see if you can get an exception for Westminster system-based political positions. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241103181800-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241103181800-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241103181800-Wellington_Bay-20241103181300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241104010600-GoodDay-20241103181800"></span>It's about the <i>presidency of the United States</i>, not about all offices in general. A consensus around the presidency doesn't map to a Westminster system at all — no matter who wins the presidential election on Tuesday, <i>Joe Biden</i> will <i>still</i> be the <i>incumbent</i> president until late <i>January 2025</i>, while there is absolutely no valid argument that Kevin Falcon was "still" the incumbent <i>anything</i> one minute after the BC election writ was dropped in September. And admittely we're not quite as quick about it as the UK is, but Keir Starmer became officially the prime minister of the United Kingdom — not just a presumed "prime minister designate", but the actual honest to god real thing — within a few <i>hours</i> of the UK election results being finalized back in July, because Westminster politics just <i>doesn't</i> work like US presidential politics does <i>at all</i>.<br/>Kevin Falcon simply <i>isn't</i> "still" the "incumbent" Leader of the Opposition as of right now, <i>regardless</i> of whether John Rustad's been sworn in yet or not, so there's no reason for us to follow a USian practice that doesn't fit how Canadian politics works. So a consensus about how to handle <i>US presidential</i> successions has <i>nothing</i> to do with <i>Canada</i>, and nothing in that discussion says it does — the system in the US works <i>very</i> differently than the system in Canada does, so absolutely nothing that Americans do on American political articles ever has any relevance to Canadian political articles at all. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241104010600-GoodDay-20241103181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241104010600-GoodDay-20241103181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241104010600-GoodDay-20241103181800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104012400-Bearcat-20241104010600"></span>It's about all political offices. If you disagree, you're free to open that argument at the WikiProject mentioned, about what's covered & what isn't. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104012400-Bearcat-20241104010600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104012400-Bearcat-20241104010600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104012400-Bearcat-20241104010600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241104015600-GoodDay-20241104012400"></span>The discussion is <i>very</i> incredibly <i>crystal clear</i> that <i>only</i> American politics was considered or discussed at all, and there's <i>absolutely zero</i> evidence that even one person in the entire discussion raised even one single solitary Canadian example for consideration at all. So no, playing the "my way or the highway" card doesn't get you the win — especially not playing it against <i>me</i>, the guy who's quite famously been around here pretty much forever and knows every last nook and cranny of absolutely everything WikiProject Canada has ever done for both good and ill — so until there's a consensus of <i>Canadian</i> editors that such a practice fits the <i>Canadian</i> situation, <b>nothing that American editors decide about American politics is applicable to us at all</b>.<br/>Again, American politics works very differently than Canadian politics does, so we would need to see a consensus of <i>Canadians</i> that American practice was <i>relevant</i> as a model for us to follow, not just a consensus of Americans discussing their presidency and nothing else. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241104015600-GoodDay-20241104012400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241104015600-GoodDay-20241104012400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241104015600-GoodDay-20241104012400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104020100-Bearcat-20241104015600"></span>Go to the WikiProject mentioned (it's not a pro-USA WikiProject) & make your argument there. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104020100-Bearcat-20241104015600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104020100-Bearcat-20241104015600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104020100-Bearcat-20241104015600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241104021400-GoodDay-20241104020100"></span>The discussion was <i>here</i>, not somewhere else, so I commented <i>here</i> because <i>this is where the discussion is taking place</i>. I didn't say it was a "pro-USA WikiProject", I said only American politics was <i>considered</i> in that other discussion, and that other discussion doesn't feature even <i>one</i> person offering even <i>one word</i> of consideration to the fact that different countries have different political systems that work differently. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241104021400-GoodDay-20241104020100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241104021400-GoodDay-20241104020100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241104021400-GoodDay-20241104020100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104022000-Bearcat-20241104021400"></span>The RFC covers all politics. Disagree? Bring it up with the RFC closer & all those who participated in that RFC. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104022000-Bearcat-20241104021400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104022000-Bearcat-20241104021400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104022000-Bearcat-20241104021400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mandruss-20241103184400-GoodDay-20241103175000"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">If there was an RFC consensus in the past to comment out the successor in these cases we can revisit it now since I don't see anyone else currently holding this view of what "we" do.</q> From a process standpoint, that's just a <i>terrible</i> argument. We don't have to recall all of the RfC participants to ask them if they have changed their minds. Settled is settled, and consensuses don't require periodic "refresh". If we're talking about <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_officeholder" title="Template:Infobox officeholder">Infobox officeholder</a>}}</code>, the RfC consensus applies. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Mandruss" title="User:Mandruss"><span style="color:#775C57;"><i><b>Mandruss</b></i></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mandruss" title="User talk:Mandruss"><span style="color:#888;">☎</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mandruss-20241103184400-GoodDay-20241103175000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mandruss-20241103184400-GoodDay-20241103175000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mandruss-20241103184400-GoodDay-20241103175000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103195800-Mandruss-20241103184400"></span>At the time, what I thought was being referred to was a specific RFC for Canadian Leaders of the Opposition, not a broader RFC for officeholders in general. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241103195800-Mandruss-20241103184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103195800-Mandruss-20241103184400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241103195800-Mandruss-20241103184400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104014100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>Notifying the RFC closer <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">Just Step Sideways</a>:</span>, too. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104014100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104014100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104014100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800-GoodDay-20241104014100"></span>The previous RFC was about the use of the infobox parameter during the period between being elected and actually taking office. Although obviosuly a reaction to events in the US, it was not limited to the US or excluding of any other country. While consensus can change, absent solid evidence that it already has, the consensus there ought to be respected, to avoid prolonged avoidable arguments exactly like this one. <a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">Just Step Sideways</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User talk:Just Step Sideways"><sup>from this world ..... today</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800-GoodDay-20241104014100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800-GoodDay-20241104014100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800-GoodDay-20241104014100"></span> <ul><li><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104121300-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">Just Step Sideways</a>:</span> could you please comment in how consensus is applied in this situation: the infobox for <a href="/wiki/John_Rustad" title="John Rustad">John Rustad</a> indicates he will be "assuming office" as leader of the opposition on a date that's TBD while the infobox for his predecessor, <a href="/wiki/Kevin_Falcon" title="Kevin Falcon">Kevin Falcon</a> indicates he vacated the office of leader of the opposition on September 21, 2024 but gives no indication that <a href="/wiki/John_Rustad" title="John Rustad">John Rustad</a> will be his successor despite the fact that Rustad's infobox indicates that he is. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241104121300-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:13, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104121300-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104121300-Just_Step_Sideways-20241104020800"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>I would be in favour of opening an RFC on the issue of Canadian federal and provincial Leaders of the Official Opposition at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Canada-related_articles" title="Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Canada-related articles">Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Canada-related articles</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100"></span>If you do. I'll have to notified those who participated in the aforementioned RFC. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134100"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span>Incidentally, since we are talking about Westminster systems, what is Wikipedia's convention for <a href="/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(United_Kingdom)" title="Leader of the Opposition (United Kingdom)">Leader of the Opposition (United Kingdom)</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500-Leader_of_the_Opposition_-_beginning_and_end_of_term"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500"></span>They too, shouldn't show the next holder in the predecessor's infobox, until next holder takes office. That too occurs, only when the next parliamentary session convenes. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104152700-Wellington_Bay-20241104134500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700-GoodDay-20241104152700"></span>It showed Sunak as LOO prior to parliament having been summoned<a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leader_of_the_Opposition_(United_Kingdom)&oldid=1233769913">[2]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Wellington_Bay" title="User:Wellington Bay">Wellington Bay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wellington_Bay" title="User talk:Wellington Bay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700-GoodDay-20241104152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700-GoodDay-20241104152700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700-GoodDay-20241104152700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoodDay-20241104184300-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700"></span>That was a mistake. There seems to be inaccuracies in start/end dates for opposition leaders. Over at <a href="/wiki/Tom_Mulcair" title="Tom Mulcair">Tom Mulcair</a> (for example), the end date as opposition leader is shown to be 4 November 2015, rather than the 2015 election date or the 41st parliament's dissolved date. <a href="/wiki/User:GoodDay" title="User:GoodDay">GoodDay</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoodDay" title="User talk:GoodDay">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-GoodDay-20241104184300-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoodDay-20241104184300-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoodDay-20241104184300-Wellington_Bay-20241104183700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241104190700-GoodDay-20241104184300"></span>I think we have to be careful about assuming the post is tied to the term of the Assembly in any particular jurisdiction. Sometimes the Rules or Standing Orders may provide that officers continue to hold their position even though the assembly has been dissolved. The most common example is the Speaker, since the Speaker is responsible for running the Assembly building and legislative precincts, and it’s not good to have a vacancy in that post during the election. I think we should check the Rules/Standing orders/Legislative Assembly statute on a case-by-case basis for each officer. <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">Mr Serjeant Buzfuz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241104190700-GoodDay-20241104184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241104190700-GoodDay-20241104184300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241104190700-GoodDay-20241104184300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?-20241102150000"><span id="Doug_Ford_article_missing_content.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?-20241102150000"></span><a href="/wiki/Doug_Ford" title="Doug Ford">Doug Ford</a> article missing content?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?-20241102150000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Doug Ford article missing content?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-137a-20241102150000-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?"></span>There's quite a few things that are mentioned to be missing from the Doug Ford article on his <a href="/wiki/Talk:Doug_Ford" title="Talk:Doug Ford">talk page</a> and its <a href="/wiki/Talk:Doug_Ford/Archive_6" title="Talk:Doug Ford/Archive 6">archives</a>. I can try to fill in some of the stuff, but I don't think I have the time to finish everything on my own. Examples include the bike lane legislature (which I have previously commented on), and the Ontario Science Center stuff, both of which are well covered by reliable sources. <a href="/wiki/User:137a" title="User:137a">137a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:137a" title="User talk:137a">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/137a" title="Special:Contributions/137a">edits</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-137a-20241102150000-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-137a-20241102150000-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-137a-20241102150000-Doug_Ford_article_missing_content?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PKT-20241102174000-137a-20241102150000"></span>Those sorts of things are better suited for <a href="/wiki/Premiership_of_Doug_Ford" title="Premiership of Doug Ford">Premiership of Doug Ford</a>, rather than the Doug Ford article itself. <b><a href="/wiki/User:PKT" title="User:PKT"><span style="color: #880088;">PK</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PKT" title="User talk:PKT"><span style="color: #449900;">T<small>(alk)</small></span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-PKT-20241102174000-137a-20241102150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PKT-20241102174000-137a-20241102150000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PKT-20241102174000-137a-20241102150000"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bearcat-20241103164700-137a-20241102150000"></span>I'd have to agree with PKT. Those things have a lot more to do with Doug Ford's <i>government</i> than they do with his <i>biography</i>, so they should be discussed in the more appropriate spinoff article so as to avoid overloading the BLP. <a href="/wiki/User:Bearcat" title="User:Bearcat">Bearcat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bearcat" title="User talk:Bearcat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Bearcat-20241103164700-137a-20241102150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bearcat-20241103164700-137a-20241102150000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bearcat-20241103164700-137a-20241102150000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?-20241110155600"><span id="Human_Rights_Act.2C_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?-20241110155600"></span>Human Rights Act, Nunavut - need move and disambiguation?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?-20241110155600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Human Rights Act, Nunavut - need move and disambiguation?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?"></span>Hi, I've got a question on the article on the Nunavut human rights act, currently named: <a href="/wiki/Human_Rights_Act_2003" class="mw-redirect" title="Human Rights Act 2003">Human Rights Act 2003</a>. The first issue is that this is not the correct name; "2003" is not part of the name, as shown here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.canlii.org/en/nu/laws/astat/snu-2003-c-12/latest/snu-2003-c-12.html">https://www.canlii.org/en/nu/laws/astat/snu-2003-c-12/latest/snu-2003-c-12.html</a> . The act is just "Human Rights Act", which suggests that "2003" should be deleted. However, if we were to move it to "Human Rights Act", that is very general; there are a number of articles about human rights acts, with a disambiguation page: <a href="/wiki/Human_Rights_Act" class="mw-disambig" title="Human Rights Act">Human Rights Act</a>. That suggests moving it to a new name, with the jurisdiction in the title: "<i>Human Rights Act</i> (Nunavut)". Does that make sense? If we do that, is there a way to italicise it the way I've shown here, so that the title is italicised, but not the disambiguation in parentheses? <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">Mr Serjeant Buzfuz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:56, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600-Human_Rights_Act,_Nunavut_-_need_move_and_disambiguation?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kawnhr-20241110162600-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600"></span>That makes sense to me. You can use <a href="/wiki/Template:Italic_title" title="Template:Italic title">Template:Italic title</a> to get the new title to display right. — <a href="/wiki/User:Kawnhr" title="User:Kawnhr">Kawnhr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kawnhr" title="User talk:Kawnhr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Kawnhr-20241110162600-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kawnhr-20241110162600-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kawnhr-20241110162600-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241110155600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241111161400-Kawnhr-20241110162600"></span>Thanks. No-one else commented, so I went ahead and moved it. Took two tries; I shouldn't do heavy page lifting too early in the morning. <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">Mr Serjeant Buzfuz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241111161400-Kawnhr-20241110162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241111161400-Kawnhr-20241110162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241111161400-Kawnhr-20241110162600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s" data-mw-thread-id="h-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s-20241112032300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s-20241112032300"></span>All SCC cites before 1968 are now 404s<span data-mw-comment-end="h-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s-20241112032300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: All SCC cites before 1968 are now 404s"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032300-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"></span>The Chief Justice of Canada and a francophone rights group have got into a dispute over the fact that the SCC judgments before the Official Languages Act in 1968 were published in English only, and were on the SCC webpages. Net result is that the SCC has taken down all the pre-1968 decisions until they can be translated. That means that links in a Wikipedia article directly to the pre-1968 SCC cases are returning 404s. However, all is not lost. The SCC shared the pre-1968 English versions with other online reporters, so they are still available. I would recommend using CanLII as a substitute, since it’s open access. <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">Mr Serjeant Buzfuz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032300-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032300-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032300-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032600-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"></span>ETA: news article on point: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/supreme-court-removes-all-unilingual-decisions-from-its-website-1.7104377#:~:text=On%20Friday%2C%20the%20Registrar's%20Office,decisions%20will%20begin%20in%202025">Supreme Court removes all unilingual decisions from its website</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">Mr Serjeant Buzfuz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz" title="User talk:Mr Serjeant Buzfuz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032600-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:26, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032600-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr_Serjeant_Buzfuz-20241112032600-All_SCC_cites_before_1968_are_now_404s"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike-20241118175400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike-20241118175400"></span>New article <a href="/wiki/2024_Canada_Post_strike" title="2024 Canada Post strike">2024 Canada Post strike</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike-20241118175400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: New article 2024 Canada Post strike"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namiba-20241118175400-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike"></span>Please help expand this article.--<a href="/wiki/User:Namiba" title="User:Namiba">User:Namiba</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Namiba-20241118175400-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namiba-20241118175400-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namiba-20241118175400-New_article_2024_Canada_Post_strike"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copy_edit_quick_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copy_edit_quick_review-20241120175300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copy_edit_quick_review-20241120175300"></span>Copy edit quick review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copy_edit_quick_review-20241120175300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Copy edit quick review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moxy-20241120175300-Copy_edit_quick_review"></span>Think i am done with <a href="/wiki/Canadian_genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples" title="Canadian genocide of Indigenous peoples">Canadian genocide of Indigenous peoples</a>.....can we get a quick copy edit and quick review make sure its points are clear. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue"><a href="/wiki/User:Moxy" title="User:Moxy">Moxy</a></span>🍁 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Moxy-20241120175300-Copy_edit_quick_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moxy-20241120175300-Copy_edit_quick_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moxy-20241120175300-Copy_edit_quick_review"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute" data-mw-thread-id="h-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute-20241121224600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute-20241121224600"></span>Requested Article: Cascade Institute<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute-20241121224600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Requested Article: Cascade Institute"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rainwood13-20241121224600-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"></span>Hi there, </p><p>Apologies if this is in the wrong place--I was directed here by the article request page--but I was hoping that an article could be created for the Cascade Institute, a Canadian research centre addressing urgent and entangled global problems, located in Victoria, BC and founded by Dr. Thomas Homer-Dixon. </p><p>I've disclosed this on my user page, but I am an employee of the Cascade Institute and therefore want to avoid trying to draft the page myself so that we can avoid any potential COIs and biases (and because I'm fairly new to the editing side of Wikipedia). I've read through the COI-related help pages and I understand that Wikipedia is not intended to promote, but I do believe that our organization is notable enough to merit a page of its own. With this in mind, I have located several, high-quality, reliable secondary sources that I am happy to provide links to upon request, if need be. </p><p>There is currently a request for the Cascade Institute submitted to the general Wikipedia Article Request page, but it's over a year old at this point and I'm hoping that by making this request here, I can at least generate some interest. </p><p>Happy to discuss further and answer any questions. Thank you! </p><p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Rainwood13" title="User:Rainwood13">Rainwood13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rainwood13" title="User talk:Rainwood13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Rainwood13-20241121224600-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rainwood13-20241121224600-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rainwood13-20241121224600-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ARandomName123-20241122013400-Rainwood13-20241121224600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Rainwood13" title="User:Rainwood13">Rainwood13</a>:</span> Hi! It would probably be better if you wrote the article yourself and submitted it through <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AfC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AfC">WP:AfC</a>. Unlike you, we are not being paid to edit articles so unless an editor is interested in this topic, most would not write an article just because you asked. Instead, you can start a draft through by clicking on the following link: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Wizard" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Article Wizard">Wikipedia:Article Wizard</a>. Once it is ready, click submit and an editor will review it. <a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a>)<sup><span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-ARandomName123-20241122013400-Rainwood13-20241121224600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:34, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ARandomName123-20241122013400-Rainwood13-20241121224600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ARandomName123-20241122013400-Rainwood13-20241121224600"></span></dd></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rainwood13-20241122160000-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"></span>ARandomName123</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARandomName123" title="User talk:ARandomName123">talk</a>) </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:ARandomName123" title="User:ARandomName123">ARandomName123</a>:</span> Hi there--thank you for the heads-up/advice! I'll try drafting the article myself and see how that goes. <a href="/wiki/User:Rainwood13" title="User:Rainwood13">Rainwood13</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rainwood13" title="User talk:Rainwood13">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#c-Rainwood13-20241122160000-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rainwood13-20241122160000-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rainwood13-20241122160000-Requested_Article:_Cascade_Institute"></span></dd></dl> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&oldid=1258960056">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&oldid=1258960056</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 22 November 2024, at 16:00<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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