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class="short"> <style type="text/css" media="screen"> .intro p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>1792年，82岁的乾隆帝在清军击败入侵的廓尔克后志得意满，撰文彰显自己的“十全武功”。18世纪中后期，他治下的中国疆域辽阔、社会繁荣，但内忧外患早已显露。与此同时，英国在七年战争中击败法国，成为海上霸主，极大地促进了工业革命，产生了对原料、市场和财富的巨大需求。1783年，失去北美十三州殖民地后，英国先是进一步加强对印度的控制，更把目光投向了马六甲海峡以东。</p> <p>1793年夏，英国政府派往清朝的大使乔治•马戛尔尼远渡重洋，率使团抵达承德觐见乾隆帝。这是中国同西方交往的历史中最著名的时刻之一，英使不肯下跪而乾隆大怒、清朝以天朝自居而无视其他文化导致了冲突、乃至中国近代的持续落后，成为讲述这一时刻的主要旋律。</p> <p>本书不仅描述了使团筹备、人员物色、海上航行、清朝官员一路的接待、正式与非正式会谈、翻译造成的误解、使团见闻等诸多细节，更将镜头转向觐见现场的译员李自...</p><p><a href="javascript:void(0)" class="j a_show_full">(展开全部)</a></p></div> </span> <span class="all hidden"> <div class=""> <style type="text/css" media="screen"> .intro p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>1792年，82岁的乾隆帝在清军击败入侵的廓尔克后志得意满，撰文彰显自己的“十全武功”。18世纪中后期，他治下的中国疆域辽阔、社会繁荣，但内忧外患早已显露。与此同时，英国在七年战争中击败法国，成为海上霸主，极大地促进了工业革命，产生了对原料、市场和财富的巨大需求。1783年，失去北美十三州殖民地后，英国先是进一步加强对印度的控制，更把目光投向了马六甲海峡以东。</p> <p>1793年夏，英国政府派往清朝的大使乔治•马戛尔尼远渡重洋，率使团抵达承德觐见乾隆帝。这是中国同西方交往的历史中最著名的时刻之一，英使不肯下跪而乾隆大怒、清朝以天朝自居而无视其他文化导致了冲突、乃至中国近代的持续落后，成为讲述这一时刻的主要旋律。</p> <p>本书不仅描述了使团筹备、人员物色、海上航行、清朝官员一路的接待、正式与非正式会谈、翻译造成的误解、使团见闻等诸多细节，更将镜头转向觐见现场的译员李自标和小斯当东，让他们的人生沉浮与使团出使交织在了一起，展现了国与国交往的机制。作者认为，马戛尔尼使华，是中英密切接触的结果，而非开始。清朝当时有不少人对欧洲知之甚多，但英国的威胁让拥有这些知识变得危险，故无人愿意显露。对他国越是了解，在本国就容易受到猜疑，理性的声音就会受到压制，翻译首当其冲。</p> <p>当鸦片战争最终爆发，帝国主义以及一种全力与之相拮抗的民族主义，就占据了中国与西方关系的主流，世界权力格局也随之改变，文化间的相互理解越来越重要。</p></div> </div> </span> </div> <link rel="stylesheet" href="https://img3.doubanio.com/cuphead/book-static/subject/authors_section.6a54a.css"> <h2> <h2> <span>翻译的危险的创作者</span> ······ </h2> </h2> <div class="indent"> <p></p> <div id="authors" class="authors"> <ul class="authors-list from-subject __oneline"> <li class="author"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/1016627/" title="[英国] 沈艾娣"> <img src="https://img3.doubanio.com/img/author/medium/public/1524881550.87.jpg" alt="[英国] 沈艾娣" class="avatar"> </a> <div class="info"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/1016627/" title="[英国] 沈艾娣" class="name">沈艾娣</a> <span class="role">作者</span> </div> </li> <li class="author"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4633107/" title="赵妍杰"> <img src="https://img9.doubanio.com/view/personage/m/public/53ebbbe04b04c92a0abdc928c5301295.jpg" alt="赵妍杰" class="avatar"> </a> <div class="info"> <a href="https://book.douban.com/author/4633107/" title="赵妍杰" class="name">赵妍杰</a> <span class="role">译者</span> </div> </li> <li class="author fake fake4"></li> </ul> </div> </div> <h2> <span>作者简介</span> ······ </h2> <div class="indent "> <div class=""> <style type="text/css" media="screen"> .intro p{text-indent:2em;word-break:normal;} </style> <div class="intro"> <p>沈艾娣（Henrietta Harrison），牛津大学博士。曾任教于哈佛大学，现为牛津大学中国史教授。主要研究方向为华北乡村、地方宗教与社会、清末以降的社会文化等，擅长将全球视野与微观史研究方法相结合。著有《梦醒子：一位华北乡居者的人生（1857—1942）》（The Man Awakened from Dreams：One Man’s Life in a North China Village, 1857-1942）、《传教士的诅咒：一个华北村庄的全球史》（The Missionary’s Curse and Other Tales from a Chinese Catholic Village）等。</p></div> </div> </div> <h2> <span>目录</span> ······ </h2> <div class="indent" id="dir_36911739_short"> 推荐序：历史是在语言中产生的（王笛）<br/> 中译本序<br/> 人名表<br/> 引言<br/> 第一部分　跨越世界的人生<br/> 第一章　凉州李家<br/> · · · · · · (<a href="javascript:$('#dir_36911739_short').hide();$('#dir_36911739_full').show();$.get('/j/subject/j_dir_count',{id:36911739});void(0);">更多</a>) </div> <div class="indent" id="dir_36911739_full" style="display:none"> 推荐序：历史是在语言中产生的（王笛）<br/> 中译本序<br/> 人名表<br/> 引言<br/> 第一部分　跨越世界的人生<br/> 第一章　凉州李家<br/> 第二章　戈尔韦的老斯当东<br/> 第三章　李自标在那不勒斯的教育经历<br/> 第四章　小斯当东的奇异童年<br/> 第二部分　李自标和马戛尔尼使团<br/> 第五章　为使华寻觅翻译<br/> 第六章　远渡重洋<br/> 第七章　其他可能的译员<br/> 第八章　作为译员和中介的李自标<br/> 第九章　御前讲话<br/> 第十章　成为隐身的翻译<br/> 第十一章　使团之后的李自标<br/> 第三部分　小斯当东与广州贸易<br/> 第十二章　小斯当东成为翻译<br/> 第十三章　乔治•斯当东爵士，翻译官与银行家<br/> 第十四章　英国占领澳门及其后果<br/> 第十五章　一位通事和他的麻烦<br/> 第十六章　阿美士德使华<br/> 第四部分　疏离<br/> 第十七章　李自标四处藏匿的晚年<br/> 第十八章　小斯当东在议会<br/> 第十九章　鸦片战争<br/> 第二十章　忘却<br/> 结语<br/> 致谢<br/> 注释<br/> 参考文献<br/> · · · · · · (<a 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Gower planned to sail south, then follow the winds westward across the Atlantic to Brazil, then the current that runs down the coast of South America till he reached the powerful current that circles the Antarctic, which would carry him back east into the Indian Ocean. From there he could follow the trade winds north to the Dutch East Indies (today Indonesia), and then the annual monsoon wind north to China. The whole voyage would take nearly a year. 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href="https://www.douban.com/people/DALISIKAO/">Danchanyeol</a> <span class="user-stars allstar40 rating" title="推荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4291499323">2024-09-04 22:16:20</a> <span class="comment-location">广东</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">在还没阅读之前，我设想了翻译究竟能有什么危险，唯一能想到的就是怕出错的危险，对应于生活当中，我知道潮汕话/粤语当地的方言，有些朋友来当地玩就会问我，实际上我就是在充当翻译，不过书里面的翻译可就非同凡响了，本国当官的跟皇帝讲话，伴君如伴虎那都得谨言慎行，况且是在当时紧张的国际关系中，国与国之间需要的翻译，那就更不要说简单了，说错、传达不准、问题就大了。虽说讲的是李自标跟小斯当东的人生故事，但整本更...</span> <span class="hide-item full">在还没阅读之前，我设想了翻译究竟能有什么危险，唯一能想到的就是怕出错的危险，对应于生活当中，我知道潮汕话/粤语当地的方言，有些朋友来当地玩就会问我，实际上我就是在充当翻译，不过书里面的翻译可就非同凡响了，本国当官的跟皇帝讲话，伴君如伴虎那都得谨言慎行，况且是在当时紧张的国际关系中，国与国之间需要的翻译，那就更不要说简单了，说错、传达不准、问题就大了。虽说讲的是李自标跟小斯当东的人生故事，但整本更多细节是放在国与国之间文化交流，互通之间，这也认为更好地了解翻译这一个工作。</span> <span class="expand">(<a href="javascript:;">展开</a>)</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36911739/?comment_id=4291499323"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4203789534"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4203789534" class="vote-count">11</span> <a id="btn-4203789534" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4203789534">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/MovieL/">木卫二</a> <span class="user-stars allstar50 rating" title="力荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4203789534">2024-08-30 13:16:46</a> <span class="comment-location">广东</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">两次不吃敬酒，引发了第三次的掀桌。两位充满才识与能力，视野与胸襟，游弋于语言海洋的中西翻译家，他们各有一双见过乾隆的眼睛，而那个被修饰，争议，讥笑，乃至尘封的马戛尔尼使华瞬间，变成了画，沦为野史，成为民族主义的饲槽草料，更令小斯当东空口难言。远去之彼人，其一生志业，似乎不过是夏日浮云投下的阴影，欷歔难挡——你的生命由此平添了又一阵突来的小寂寞。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36911739/?comment_id=4203789534"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4260815083"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4260815083" class="vote-count">1</span> <a id="btn-4260815083" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4260815083">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a href="https://www.douban.com/people/180615083/">Goo</a> <span class="user-stars allstar50 rating" title="力荐"></span> <a class="comment-time" href="/comment/4260815083">2024-08-30 09:24:16</a> <span class="comment-location">北京</span> </span> </h3> <p class="comment-content"> <span class="short">可能是第三代汉学已经发展了20余年之久的结果，目前列文森/费正清奖几乎全是后现代主义视角做一个小小切口来透视政治经济和现代化进程。和梦醒子与传教士一样，从鲜有人在意的事件/人物，讲述了一个巨变。</span> </p> <div class="report-comment" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/36911739/?comment_id=4260815083"></div> </div> </li> <li class="comment-item" data-cid="4203785187"> <div class="comment"> <h3> <span class="comment-vote"> <span id="c-4203785187" class="vote-count">24</span> <a id="btn-4203785187" href="" class="j a_show_login" data-cid="4203785187">有用</a> </span> <span class="comment-info"> <a 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