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title="Wikidata:Property proposal">current page</a>, even to continue an old discussion.</i> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов_/_-"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">Crystal habit / Kristallhabitus / Habitus / Габитус кристаллов / -</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Basionym"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Basionym</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#hangingwall_/_Hangend"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">hangingwall / Hangend</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#footwall_/_Liegend"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">footwall / Liegend</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5"><a href="#Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita"><span class="tocnumber">4.1</span> <span class="toctext">Date of birth / Geburtsdatum / Date de naissance / Data di nascita</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6"><a href="#Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte"><span class="tocnumber">4.2</span> <span class="toctext">Date of death / Sterbedatum / Date de décès / Data di morte</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7"><a href="#Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation"><span class="tocnumber">4.3</span> <span class="toctext">Foundation or Creation Date / Gründungsdatum / Date de fondation</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Rotation period / Rotationsperiode / Période de rotation / Periodo di rotazione</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Orbital_period_/_Siderische_Periode_/_Période_orbitale"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Orbital period / Siderische Periode / Période orbitale</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">Biology: Date of scientific description</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Discovery date / Entdeckungs Datum / Data di scoperta</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Dissolved_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Dissolved (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">Date of publication / Erscheinungsjahr / Date de publication</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle_prove-TimeValue"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">Sandbox-TimeValue / Spielwiese-TimeValue / Bac à sable-TimeValue / Pagina delle prove-TimeValue</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#IMA_status_/_IMA_Status"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">IMA status / IMA Status</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#from_time_(since)"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">from time (since)</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-17"><a href="#Overlapping_Proposals"><span class="tocnumber">13.1</span> <span class="toctext">Overlapping Proposals</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-18"><a href="#start_date_and_time"><span class="tocnumber">13.1.1</span> <span class="toctext">start date and time</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-19"><a href="#Dates_held"><span class="tocnumber">13.1.2</span> <span class="toctext">Dates held</span></a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#to_time_(until)"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">to time (until)</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-21"><a href="#end_date_and_time"><span class="tocnumber">14.1</span> <span class="toctext">end date and time</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#as_of"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">as of</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-23"><a href="#Date_/_Datum_/"><span class="tocnumber">15.1</span> <span class="toctext">Date / Datum /</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#IpniAuthorId"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">IpniAuthorId</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">Maritime Mobile Service Identity (MMSI)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#ISO"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">ISO</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Team_years_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Team years (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Currentclub_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Currentclub (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Assocciation Football Player Position (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Assocciation Football Player Height (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Student_of_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Student of (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_город"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Largest city/ größte Stadt / Plus grande ville/ Крупнейший город</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Continental confederation affiliation (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Host city / Austragungsstadt</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#type_(of_school,_university,_...)"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">type (of school, university, ...)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Song_engaged_to_/"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Song engaged to /</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#Championship_seasons"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Championship seasons</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#FIFA_affiliation_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">FIFA affiliation (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Book (title) / Buch (Titel) / Livre (titre)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Sub continental confederation affiliation (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Subsidiary"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Subsidiary</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">Country of origin / Produktionsland / …</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Subtitle / Untertitel / Sous-titre</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#Era"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">Era</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#translated_into"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">translated into</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Number of singles/albums/live CDs/EPs/DVDs</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_planifié"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">Planned road length / Straßenlänge in der Planung / longueur de la route planifié</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#Recorded_(at)"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Recorded (at)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#input_device_/_Eingabegerät"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">input device / Eingabegerät</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..."><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">Show's creator / Idee / ...</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">ID in database / Primärschlüssel in Datenbank</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#member_of_musical_group"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext">member of musical group</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-53"><a href="#coolant"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext">coolant</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#Point_group"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext">Point group</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-55"><a href="#Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext">Maximum speed / Höchstgeschwindigkeit / Vitesse maximale</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-56"><a href="#Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext">Stall speed / Mindestgeschwindigkeit / Vitesse de décrochage</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-57"><a href="#GNIS"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext">GNIS</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-58"><a href="#EC_Number"><span class="tocnumber">50</span> <span class="toctext">EC Number</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-59"><a href="#ChEMBL"><span class="tocnumber">51</span> <span class="toctext">ChEMBL</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-60"><a href="#IUPHAR_ID"><span class="tocnumber">52</span> <span class="toctext">IUPHAR ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-61"><a href="#Homologene_ID"><span class="tocnumber">53</span> <span class="toctext">Homologene ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-62"><a href="#Ensembl_ID"><span class="tocnumber">54</span> <span class="toctext">Ensembl ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-63"><a href="#cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_света"><span class="tocnumber">55</span> <span class="toctext">cardinal direction / Himmelsrichtung / point cardinal / сторона света</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-64"><a href="#Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"><span class="tocnumber">56</span> <span class="toctext"><s>Taxon publication year</s> (withdrawn)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-65"><a href="#WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA"><span class="tocnumber">57</span> <span class="toctext">WTA id / WTA-Kennung / identifiant WTA</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-66"><a href="#commands_/_/_commandement"><span class="tocnumber">58</span> <span class="toctext">commands / / commandement</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-67"><a href="#ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF"><span class="tocnumber">59</span> <span class="toctext">ITF id / ITF-Kennung / identifiant ITF</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-68"><a href="#MedlinePlus"><span class="tocnumber">60</span> <span class="toctext">MedlinePlus</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-69"><a href="#battles/wars_/_/_conflits"><span class="tocnumber">61</span> <span class="toctext">battles/wars / / conflits</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-70"><a href="#Exhibition_history"><span class="tocnumber">62</span> <span class="toctext">Exhibition history</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-71"><a href="#NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)"><span class="tocnumber">63</span> <span class="toctext">NUTS (without version) / NUTS (with version)</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-72"><a href="#without_version"><span class="tocnumber">63.1</span> <span class="toctext">without version</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-73"><a href="#with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"><span class="tocnumber">63.2</span> <span class="toctext">with version (example 'NUTS 2010')</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-74"><a href="#Airplanes"><span class="tocnumber">64</span> <span class="toctext">Airplanes</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-75"><a href="#Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur"><span class="tocnumber">64.1</span> <span class="toctext">Glider (sailplane) / Segelflugzeug / Planeur</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-3 tocsection-76"><a href="#Construction_and_production"><span class="tocnumber">64.1.1</span> <span class="toctext">Construction and production</span></a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-77"><a href="#Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)"><span class="tocnumber">65</span> <span class="toctext">Highest point (en) / 地理最高點 (zh)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-78"><a href="#religious_order_/_/_ordre_religieux"><span class="tocnumber">66</span> <span class="toctext">religious order / / ordre religieux</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-79"><a href="#mother_house_/_/_abbaye_mère"><span class="tocnumber">67</span> <span class="toctext">mother house / / abbaye mère</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-80"><a href="#Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"><span class="tocnumber">68</span> <span class="toctext">Terminus location (en) / Ubicación del término (es)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-81"><a href="#OS_grid_reference"><span class="tocnumber">69</span> <span class="toctext">OS grid reference</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-82"><a href="#archipelago_/_/_archipel"><span class="tocnumber">70</span> <span class="toctext">archipelago / / archipel</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-83"><a href="#DiseasesDB"><span class="tocnumber">71</span> <span class="toctext">DiseasesDB</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-84"><a href="#Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت"><span class="tocnumber">72</span> <span class="toctext">Cultural heritage registration code (CHRC) / / /شمارۀ ثبت</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-85"><a href="#source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía"><span class="tocnumber">73</span> <span class="toctext">source of energy / Energiequelle / source d'énergie / fuente de energía</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-86"><a href="#Power_sources_/_Источники_питания"><span class="tocnumber">73.1</span> <span class="toctext">Power sources / Источники питания</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-87"><a href="#yard_number"><span class="tocnumber">74</span> <span class="toctext">yard number</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-88"><a href="#supporting_actor/actress"><span class="tocnumber">75</span> <span class="toctext">supporting actor/actress</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-89"><a href="#as"><span class="tocnumber">76</span> <span class="toctext">as</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-90"><a href="#Filmaffinity"><span class="tocnumber">77</span> <span class="toctext">Filmaffinity</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-91"><a href="#Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer"><span class="tocnumber">78</span> <span class="toctext">Wine AppDB-ID / Wine AppDB-Identifikationsnummer</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-92"><a href="#Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки"><span class="tocnumber">79</span> <span class="toctext">Landing date / Дата посадки</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-93"><a href="#Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска"><span class="tocnumber">80</span> <span class="toctext">Launch date / Дата запуска</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-94"><a href="#Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты"><span class="tocnumber">81</span> <span class="toctext">Decay date / Дата схода с орбиты</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-95"><a href="#Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки"><span class="tocnumber">82</span> <span class="toctext">Docking/Undocking dates / Даты стыковки/расстыковки</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-96"><a href="#Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа"><span class="tocnumber">83</span> <span class="toctext">Crew photo / Фотография членов экипажа</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-97"><a href="#Guidance_system"><span class="tocnumber">84</span> <span class="toctext">Guidance system</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-98"><a href="#Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3"><span class="tocnumber">85</span> <span class="toctext"><s>Express-3 code / / / Код Экспресс-3</s></span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-99"><a href="#IUCN-ID"><span class="tocnumber">86</span> <span class="toctext">IUCN-ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-100"><a href="#E_number_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">87</span> <span class="toctext">E number (en)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-101"><a href="#ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"><span class="tocnumber">88</span> <span class="toctext">ISTAT code / codice ISTAT</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-102"><a href="#Route_of_administration"><span class="tocnumber">89</span> <span class="toctext">Route of administration</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-103"><a href="#Protein_ID"><span class="tocnumber">90</span> <span class="toctext">Protein ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-104"><a href="#PDB_ID"><span class="tocnumber">91</span> <span class="toctext">PDB ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-105"><a href="#RNA_ID"><span class="tocnumber">92</span> <span class="toctext">RNA ID</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-106"><a href="#Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)"><span class="tocnumber">93</span> <span class="toctext">Léonore ID (en) / cote base Léonore (fr)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-107"><a href="#Sport"><span class="tocnumber">94</span> <span class="toctext">Sport</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-108"><a href="#of_item"><span class="tocnumber">95</span> <span class="toctext">of item</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-109"><a href="#Freebase_identifier"><span class="tocnumber">96</span> <span class="toctext">Freebase identifier</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-110"><a href="#Open_Library_identifier"><span class="tocnumber">97</span> <span class="toctext">Open Library identifier</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-111"><a href="#Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"><span class="tocnumber">97.1</span> <span class="toctext">Direction relative to location (en)</span></a></li> </ul> </li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов_/_-" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"><span id="Crystal_habit_.2F_Kristallhabitus_.2F_Habitus_.2F_.D0.93.D0.B0.D0.B1.D0.B8.D1.82.D1.83.D1.81_.D0.BA.D1.80.D0.B8.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B0.D0.BB.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.B2_.2F_-"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span>Crystal habit / Kristallhabitus / Habitus / Габитус кристаллов / -<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262253935">.mw-parser-output .property-navibox{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);border:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{background:var(--background-color-progressive-subtle,#f1f4fd);outline:3px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);padding:4px}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:right;margin:0}body.rtl .mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links{float:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li{display:inline;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:after{display:inline;content:" – "}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-links li:last-child:after{content:none}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main{overflow-x:auto}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox table{display:table;overflow-x:visible}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main tr{vertical-align:text-top}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="ltr"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-right:1em;text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox[dir="rtl"] .property-navibox-main th{padding-left:1em;text-align:right}@media(max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-header{display:flex;flex-direction:column-reverse}.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>td,.mw-parser-output .property-navibox-main>table>tbody>tr>th{display:block}}</style><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P565"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P565" title="Property:P565">crystal habit</a> <small>(P565)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P565" title="Property talk:P565">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Describes the usual shape of a crystal.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td> <ul><li><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Mineral" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Mineral">de:Vorlage:Infobox_Mineral</a></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Minerals, Variants of minerals</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>tabular, prismatic, cubic, aggregate, needle-shaped, ...</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>phlogopite = "tabular", "platy", "prismatic", "flaky" and "massiv". Qualifiers could give information about the frequency of certain habits.</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>mindat-, rruff-, mineral databases</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>Useful for infoboxes and for queries. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z-Crystal_habit_/_Kristallhabitus_/_Habitus_/_Габитус_кристаллов"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:52:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span>The Chemistry Task force already listed some properties for crystallography (see<a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties#Crystallography" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties#Crystallography</a>. Perhaps can you see if this list is complete and then we can propose the whole list in once. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:52:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:52:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:52:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span>en.wikipedia:Template:Chembox hasn't crystal habit</dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-22T12:45:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Sbisolo" title="User:Sbisolo">Sbisolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbisolo" title="User talk:Sbisolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Sbisolo-2013-05-22T12:45:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-22T12:45:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-22T12:45:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Can we have a complete list of possible values ? Just to be sure that this property won't be used as crystal system property.<a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T10:21:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z"></span>I will create a list of items from these lists: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_habit" class="extiw" title="en:Crystal habit">en:Crystal habit</a>, <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallhabitus" class="extiw" title="de:Kristallhabitus">de:Kristallhabitus</a>, <a href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(kristal)" class="extiw" title="nl:Habitus (kristal)">nl:Habitus_(kristal)</a> and add those items to the constraints of the property. Having the "habits" as items will also ease the translation. Also once we have all those items we can generate "habit-lists" for every Wikipedia language. E.g. <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitus_(min%C3%A9ralogie)" class="extiw" title="fr:Habitus (minéralogie)">fr:Habitus_(minéralogie)</a> is missing a nice list with images. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T10:21:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T10:21:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T10:21:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-26T10:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Basionym" data-mw-thread-id="h-Basionym-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Basionym-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span>Basionym<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Basionym-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z-Basionym"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P566"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P566" title="Property:P566">has basionym</a> <small>(P566)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P566" title="Property talk:P566">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>„The legitimate, previously published name on which a new combination or name at new rank is based.“ (see ICN-<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=glo">Glossary</a> and ICN-Art. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=art6#6.10">6.10</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Scope of <a href="/wiki/Q693148" title="Q693148">International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants</a> (ICN)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><i><a href="/wiki/Q144412" title="Q144412">Opuntia ficus-indica</a></i> basionym is <i><a href="/wiki/Q12294235" title="Q12294235">Cactus ficus-indica</a></i></td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>Single value</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Helps to bring together otherwise not linked taxon names. Makes it possible to generate the correct author citation: <i><a href="/wiki/Q144412" title="Q144412">Opuntia ficus-indica</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/Q1043" title="Q1043">L.</a>) <a href="/wiki/Q312678" title="Q312678">Mill.</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z-Basionym" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z-Basionym"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z-Basionym"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-21T13:37:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Especially because it is needed for citations. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-21T13:37:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-21T13:37:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-21T13:37:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cactus26-2013-05-24T07:07:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Resonable, other databases also contain this property, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.tropicos.org/Name/5100164">http://www.tropicos.org/Name/5100164</a> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cactus26&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cactus26 (page does not exist)">Cactus26</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cactus26" title="User talk:Cactus26">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Cactus26-2013-05-24T07:07:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cactus26-2013-05-24T07:07:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cactus26-2013-05-24T07:07:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FelixReimann-2013-05-27T16:54:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Necessary for the names of plants according to the definition of ICN <a href="/wiki/User:FelixReimann" title="User:FelixReimann">FelixReimann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FelixReimann" title="User talk:FelixReimann">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-FelixReimann-2013-05-27T16:54:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FelixReimann-2013-05-27T16:54:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FelixReimann-2013-05-27T16:54:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-21T12:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="hangingwall_/_Hangend" data-mw-thread-id="h-hangingwall_/_Hangend-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"><span id="hangingwall_.2F_Hangend"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hangingwall_/_Hangend-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span>hangingwall / Hangend<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hangingwall_/_Hangend-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z-hangingwall_/_Hangend"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P567"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P567" title="Property:P567">underlies</a> <small>(P567)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P567" title="Property talk:P567">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>stratigraphic relation: younger units lie on top of older units</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_rockunit" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox rockunit">en:Template:Infobox_rockunit</a> <b>overlies</b>, <b>underlies</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>stratigraphic formations, members and groups</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>other articles of stratigraphic formations, members and groups</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcellus_Formation" class="extiw" title="en:Marcellus Formation">en:Marcellus Formation</a>, hangingwall=Mahantango Formation</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source NEEDED)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>I would like to sort stratigraphic data entries similar to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.bgr.de/app/litholex/gesamt_ausgabe_neu.php?id=2008131">http://www.bgr.de/app/litholex/gesamt_ausgabe_neu.php?id=2008131</a>.<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z-hangingwall_/_Hangend" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z-hangingwall_/_Hangend"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z-hangingwall_/_Hangend"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-08T16:30:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> as two separate properties, <b>overlies</b> and <b>underlies</b>, at least until there are bidirectional properties.<a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-08T16:30:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-08T16:30:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-08T16:30:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> of course we could also use the properties <i>preceded by</i> and <i>followed by</i> for these relations. I'm not really sure how that would influence possible querries in the future. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z"></span>Well, preceded and followed imply a temporal relation, and there are certain processes which can move older layers on top of newer ones, so overlays =/= follows. <a href="/wiki/User:Chris857" title="User:Chris857">Chris857</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris857" title="User talk:Chris857">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-09T15:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z"></span>The terms <i>overlies</i> and <i>underlies</i> are being used here in their normal stratigraphic sense, I don't think that we should be including <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/tectonostratigraphy" class="extiw" title="en:tectonostratigraphy">tectonic layering</a> here. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mikenorton&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mikenorton (page does not exist)">Mikenorton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikenorton" title="User talk:Mikenorton">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Chris857-2013-04-25T19:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:17:00.000Z-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z"></span>The default should be stratigraphic succession. We could introduce qualifiers for things like <i>unconformities</i> and <i>tectonic contacts</i>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:17:00.000Z-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:17:00.000Z-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:17:00.000Z-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - makes sense. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Mikenorton&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Mikenorton (page does not exist)">Mikenorton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mikenorton" title="User talk:Mikenorton">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mikenorton-2013-04-28T13:57:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-12T15:37:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-12T15:37:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-12T15:37:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-12T15:37:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-07T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="footwall_/_Liegend" data-mw-thread-id="h-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"><span id="footwall_.2F_Liegend"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span>footwall / Liegend<span data-mw-comment-end="h-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P568"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P568" title="Property:P568">overlies</a> <small>(P568)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P568" title="Property talk:P568">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>stratigraphic relation: younger units lie on top of older units</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_rockunit" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox rockunit">en:Template:Infobox_rockunit</a> <b>overlies</b>, <b>underlies</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>stratigraphic formations, members and groups</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>other articles of stratigraphic formations, members and groups</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcellus_Formation" class="extiw" title="en:Marcellus Formation">en:Marcellus Formation</a>, , footwall=Onondaga Formation</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source NEEDED)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>?</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"><span id="Date_of_birth_.2F_Geburtsdatum_.2F_Date_de_naissance_.2F_Data_di_nascita"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Date of birth / Geburtsdatum / Date de naissance / Data di nascita<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><span id="P569"></span></p><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P569" title="Property:P569">Property:P569</a> </p><ul><li><b>Description</b>: Birth date of a person</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata/Data model">TimeValue</a></li> <li><b>Links</b>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://schema.org/Person#birthDate">schema.org</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/#term_birthday">FOAF</a>...</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b></li> <li><b>Comments:</b> Basic property used by all biographical infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 30 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z-Date_of_birth_/_Geburtsdatum_/_Date_de_naissance_/_Data_di_nascita"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span>That may not sound very important -nor the right page to talk about that- but what about fictional worlds with fictional dates (see <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aragorn" class="extiw" title="fr:Aragorn">this infobox</a>). Any way to escape the TimeValue datatype ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 3 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z"></span>It is not a real person so it will be simpler to crate a new typ of item for fictional figures. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 3 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-02-03T08:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-02-05T17:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span>+1 it is very important --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-02-05T17:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-02-05T17:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-02-05T17:22:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> absolutely necessary. There will be a solution for the fictional World someday.</dd> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:LadyInGrey" title="User:LadyInGrey">LadyInGrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LadyInGrey" title="User talk:LadyInGrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:47, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T02:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> It existed a few hours ago (probably <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P67&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P67 (page does not exist)">Property:P67</a> but was deleted !! --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric-92" title="User:Eric-92">Eric-92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric-92" title="User talk:Eric-92">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T02:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T02:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T02:44:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-02-06T07:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support once possible.</b> @Eric: P67 was deleted because it used the "item" datatype, when it should've used "TimeValue". For that reason, of course, this property can't be created until TimeValue is enabled as a possible datatype.<b> — <a href="/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand" title="User:PinkAmpersand"><u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PinkAmpersand"><b><u><font color="FF1493">&</font></u></b><font color="000"><sup>(<u><i>Je vous invite à me parler</i></u>)</sup></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-PinkAmpersand-2013-02-06T07:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-02-06T07:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-02-06T07:47:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-02-03T10:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span>I think there's consensus for hacking this; I am putting this in a hidden block so it doesn't distract from others that are on-going conversations, whilst we wait for the datatype to be created. <a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-30T20:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P95&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P95 (page does not exist)"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z"></span>Property:P95</a> was created (not by me), maybe should be removed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric-92" title="User:Eric-92">Eric-92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric-92" title="User talk:Eric-92">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ajraddatz-2013-02-09T12:46:00.000Z-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z"></span>Removed by someone. <a href="/wiki/User:Ajraddatz" title="User:Ajraddatz">Ajraddatz</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ajraddatz" title="User talk:Ajraddatz">Talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ajraddatz-2013-02-09T12:46:00.000Z-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ajraddatz-2013-02-09T12:46:00.000Z-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ajraddatz-2013-02-09T12:46:00.000Z-Eric-92-2013-02-06T22:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"><span id="Date_of_death_.2F_Sterbedatum_.2F_Date_de_d.C3.A9c.C3.A8s_.2F_Data_di_morte"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span>Date of death / Sterbedatum / Date de décès / Data di morte<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><span id="P570"></span></p><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P570" title="Property:P570">Property:P570</a> </p><ul><li><b>Description</b>: Death date of a person</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata/Data model">TimeValue</a></li> <li><b>Links</b>:</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b></li> <li><b>Comments:</b> Basic property used by all biographical infobox. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z-Date_of_death_/_Sterbedatum_/_Date_de_décès_/_Data_di_morte"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:48:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:LadyInGrey" title="User:LadyInGrey">LadyInGrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LadyInGrey" title="User talk:LadyInGrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:48:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:48, 5 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:48:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LadyInGrey-2013-02-05T23:48:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:13:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span>I think there's consensus for this; am hiding from the list of on-going discussions to avoid distractions. <a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:13:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:13, 6 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:13:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jdforrester-2013-02-06T18:13:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-02T12:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"><span id="Foundation_or_Creation_Date_.2F_Gr.C3.BCndungsdatum_.2F_Date_de_fondation"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Foundation or Creation Date / Gründungsdatum / Date de fondation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation-footwall_/_Liegend-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <p><span id="P571"></span></p><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P571" title="Property:P571">Property:P571</a> </p><ul><li><b>Description</b>: When the Organization was founded</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata/Data model">TimeValue</a></li> <li><b>Links</b>:</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_company" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox company">en:Template:Infobox company</a> (Founded)</li> <li><b>Comments:</b> <ul><li>Agree. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z-Foundation_or_Creation_Date_/_Gründungsdatum_/_Date_de_fondation"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThorstenX1-2013-02-10T06:18:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Used in info box. --<a href="/wiki/User:ThorstenX1" title="User:ThorstenX1">ThorstenX1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThorstenX1" title="User talk:ThorstenX1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-ThorstenX1-2013-02-10T06:18:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:18, 10 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThorstenX1-2013-02-10T06:18:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThorstenX1-2013-02-10T06:18:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-11T03:08:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/18px-Symbol_wait.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/27px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Symbol_wait.svg/36px-Symbol_wait.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Wait</b> for TimeValue datatype. --<a href="/wiki/User:Eric-92" title="User:Eric-92">Eric-92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Eric-92" title="User talk:Eric-92">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Eric-92-2013-02-11T03:08:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:08, 11 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eric-92-2013-02-11T03:08:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eric-92-2013-02-11T03:08:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z"><span id="Rotation_period_.2F_Rotationsperiode_.2F_P.C3.A9riode_de_rotation_.2F_Periodo_di_rotazione"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Rotation period / Rotationsperiode / Période de rotation / Periodo di rotazione<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P572"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P572&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P572 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P572)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P572&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P572 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the time that astronomic objects takes to complete one revolution around its <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/axis_of_rotation" class="extiw" title="en:axis of rotation">en:axis of rotation</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox planet">en:template:Infobox planet</a> <i>sidereal_day</i></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>asteroids, satellites, dwarf planets, planets, stars</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Better. <a href="/wiki/User:MER-C" title="User:MER-C">MER-C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MER-C" title="User talk:MER-C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MER-C-2013-02-09T12:55:00.000Z-Rotation_period_/_Rotationsperiode_/_Période_de_rotation_/_Periodo_di_rotazione"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orbital_period_/_Siderische_Periode_/_Période_orbitale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orbital_period_/_Siderische_Periode_/_Période_orbitale"><span id="Orbital_period_.2F_Siderische_Periode_.2F_P.C3.A9riode_orbitale"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orbital_period_/_Siderische_Periode_/_Période_orbitale"></span>Orbital period / Siderische Periode / Période orbitale<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orbital_period_/_Siderische_Periode_/_Période_orbitale"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P573"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P573&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P573 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P573)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P573&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P573 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the time taken for a given astronomic object to make one complete about another object. A qualifier can distinguish different definitions of orbital period (i.e. sidereal period, or synodic period).</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox planet">en:template:Infobox planet</a> <i>period</i>, <i>synodic_period</i></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>asteroids, satellites, dwarf planets, planets, stars</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description" data-mw-thread-id="h-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span>Biology: Date of scientific description<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span id="P574"></span></p><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P574" title="Property:P574">Property:P574</a> </p><ul><li><b>Description</b>: publication date of the first scientific description</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: Date (year)</li> <li><b>Links</b>:</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b></li> <li><b>Comments:</b></li></ul> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:48, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z-Biology:_Date_of_scientific_description"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Amphicoelias-2013-03-07T12:17:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Same as for "Taxon author". <a href="/wiki/User:Amphicoelias" title="User:Amphicoelias">Amphicoelias</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Amphicoelias" title="User talk:Amphicoelias">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Amphicoelias-2013-03-07T12:17:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Amphicoelias-2013-03-07T12:17:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Amphicoelias-2013-03-07T12:17:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liné1-2013-03-08T08:05:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Same as for "Taxon author". <a href="/wiki/User:Lin%C3%A91" title="User:Liné1">Liné1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lin%C3%A91" title="User talk:Liné1">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Liné1-2013-03-08T08:05:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liné1-2013-03-08T08:05:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liné1-2013-03-08T08:05:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mirgolth-2013-03-08T08:25:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. Same as for "Taxon author". <a href="/wiki/User:Mirgolth" title="User:Mirgolth">Mirgolth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mirgolth" title="User talk:Mirgolth">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mirgolth-2013-03-08T08:25:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:25, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mirgolth-2013-03-08T08:25:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mirgolth-2013-03-08T08:25:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hexasoft-2013-03-08T08:51:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>.Same as for "Taxon author". <a href="/wiki/User:Hexasoft" title="User:Hexasoft">Hexasoft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hexasoft" title="User talk:Hexasoft">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hexasoft-2013-03-08T08:51:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hexasoft-2013-03-08T08:51:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hexasoft-2013-03-08T08:51:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:34:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:34:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:34:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T15:34:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Salixen-2013-03-13T15:10:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Salixen" title="User:Salixen">Salixen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Salixen" title="User talk:Salixen">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Salixen-2013-03-13T15:10:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Salixen-2013-03-13T15:10:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Salixen-2013-03-13T15:10:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-02-08T17:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"><span id="Discovery_date_.2F_Entdeckungs_Datum_.2F_Data_di_scoperta"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span>Discovery date / Entdeckungs Datum / Data di scoperta<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P575"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P575" title="Property:P575">time of discovery or invention</a> <small>(P575)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P575" title="Property talk:P575">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>when the item was discovered</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>e.g. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_planet" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox planet">Infobox planet</a> <i>discovered</i>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_particle" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox particle">Infobox particle</a> <i>discovered</i>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_element" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox element">Infobox element</a> <i>discovery date</i>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_diamond" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox diamond">Infobox diamond</a> <i>found</i>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_fossil" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox fossil">Infobox fossil</a> <i>date discovered</i></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>all item that was discovered (e.g. astronomic objects, inventions, archaeological sites, animal/plant species...)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><<a href="/wiki/Q324" title="Q324">Uranus</a>> <i>discovery date</i> <13 March 1781></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><b>Comments:</b> general property useful for lots of items --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z-Discovery_date_/_Entdeckungs_Datum_/_Data_di_scoperta"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <s><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b></s> Why not have a more succinct label like "discovery date"? Label wording aside, this property seems useful. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-09T10:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z"></span>Good idea! I have changed the name of the property. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-09T10:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-09T10:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-09T10:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-09T03:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T14:31:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T14:31:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T14:31:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-03-09T14:31:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> But it should be made clear that America wasn't "discovered" in 1492. Maybe add something like "discovered by mankind" in the description. --<a href="/wiki/User:FA2010" title="User:FA2010">FA2010</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FA2010" title="User talk:FA2010">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z"></span>It is not so simple: in some cases two or more people discover something independently, and all of them are recognized as "discoverer". In these cases the <i>discovery date</i> will result to be not unique! --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 20 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-FA2010-2013-03-15T21:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Please provide more infobox examples. We should follow the infobox definitions. <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:30, 20 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span>I add some other infobox examples. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:06, 20 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-03-20T16:06:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-20T08:30:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faux-2013-03-22T07:45:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Faux-2013-03-22T07:45:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faux-2013-03-22T07:45:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faux-2013-03-22T07:45:00.000Z-Paperoastro-2013-03-06T23:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dissolved_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dissolved_(en)-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z"><span id="Dissolved_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dissolved_(en)-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z"></span>Dissolved (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dissolved_(en)-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P576"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P576" title="Property:P576">dissolved, abolished or demolished date</a> <small>(P576)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P576" title="Property talk:P576">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The date (or year) the club was dissolved. Should not be wikilinked.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_club" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football club">en:template:Infobox football club</a> <b>dissolved</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organization (football clubs)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q4384416" title="Q4384416">Q4384416</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T15:54:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span>I don't believe we have a date dissolved property pending, but we will need to wait for the timevalue datatype. I think this should be broadened to any organization. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jfhutson" title="User:Jfhutson">Jfhutson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfhutson" title="User talk:Jfhutson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z-Dissolved_(en)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span>I agree. Thats why i named it <i>Organization dissolved</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T18:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T19:17:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span>OK, sorry bout that. I guess the domain field and the section heading made me think these were intended just for football clubs. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jfhutson" title="User:Jfhutson">Jfhutson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfhutson" title="User talk:Jfhutson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T19:17:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T19:17:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-05T19:17:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> It can just be named 'dissolved' with a date datatype. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-05T19:09:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Delusion23-2013-05-29T21:18:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> as <a href="/wiki/Property:P576" title="Property:P576">Property:P576</a>. Generic to all organisations, not just football clubs. <a href="/wiki/User:Delusion23" title="User:Delusion23"><b><font color="green">Del</font><big><sub><font color="black">♉</font></sub></big><font color="green">sion</font><font color="black">23</font></b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Delusion23" title="User talk:Delusion23"><font color="green">(talk)</font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Delusion23-2013-05-29T21:18:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Delusion23-2013-05-29T21:18:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Delusion23-2013-05-29T21:18:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T03:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"><span id="Date_of_publication_.2F_Erscheinungsjahr_.2F_Date_de_publication"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q1361758" title="Q1361758">Date of publication / Erscheinungsjahr / Date de publication</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P577"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P577" title="Property:P577">publication date</a> <small>(P577)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P577" title="Property talk:P577">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Date of the publication of the book</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 31 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z-Date_of_publication_/_Erscheinungsjahr_/_Date_de_publication"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span>We should distinguish between the year a <b>work</b> was first published (Kafka: <a href="/wiki/Q36097" title="Q36097"><i>Der Process</i></a>, 1925) and the date of a specific <b>edition</b> (<i>El proceso</i>, Madrid 2009). --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span>I think that there will be an item for each version of the book in order to allow people to easily quote them in the reference part of<a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Glossary#Statement" title="Wikidata:Glossary">statements</a>. In that case I'm not sure (but I may have wrong) that the two properties are needed. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-01-31T22:05:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z"></span>+1. This is the way Open Library solves the problem: <i>Der Prozeß</i> as a work (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://openlibrary.org/works/OL498751W">.../works/OL498751W</a>) and one page for every edition (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://openlibrary.org/books/OL9051126M">.../books/OL9051126M</a>). --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-02-01T17:44:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z"></span>Do we have different items for each edition? --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-01T18:31:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-18T06:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span>No, but we will have qualifiers. <a href="/wiki/User:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Sven Manguard"><span style="color:#207004"><b><span style="font-size:115%">S</span>ven <span style="font-size:115%">M</span>anguard</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sven_Manguard" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Sven Manguard"><small><span style="color:#F0A804"><b>Wha?</b></span></small></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-18T06:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-18T06:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sven_Manguard-2013-02-18T06:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span>Support. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span>I'm not a proper librarian, but I know there are a lot of cases for "dates". Data of publication, date of the edition, date of reprint... Maybe we want a general "date" property with several qualifiers? As I said in Comment III up here, it really depends by the purpose of the metadata. We'll probably have a Wikipedia page for the "work" (FRBR-like) <i>Der Prozeß</i>, but we'll have also different scanned books on Commons, (ie translations, different editions, reprints, etc.). I think that Wikidata would be absolutely usefule especially for Commons and Wikisources, so I wonder <i>how</i> should we design the list of properties for books in Wikidata. --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-02-08T21:38:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Aubrey" title="User:Aubrey">Aubrey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aubrey" title="User talk:Aubrey">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aubrey-2013-02-19T09:32:00.000Z-Aubrey-2013-02-18T10:37:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> and we'll need similar functions for all creative works, I should think. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wikijunkie-2013-03-11T00:29:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> per Shawn --<a href="/wiki/User:Wikijunkie" title="User:Wikijunkie">Wikijunkie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wikijunkie" title="User talk:Wikijunkie">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Wikijunkie-2013-03-11T00:29:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wikijunkie-2013-03-11T00:29:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wikijunkie-2013-03-11T00:29:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-29T21:44:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Property:P577" title="Property:P577">publication date <small dir="ltr">(P577)</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-29T21:44:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-29T21:44:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-29T21:44:00.000Z-Tpt-2013-01-31T20:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle_prove-TimeValue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"><span id="Sandbox-TimeValue_.2F_Spielwiese-TimeValue_.2F_Bac_.C3.A0_sable-TimeValue_.2F_Pagina_delle_prove-TimeValue"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Sandbox-TimeValue / Spielwiese-TimeValue / Bac à sable-TimeValue / Pagina delle prove-TimeValue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span id="P578"></span></p><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P578" title="Property:P578">Property:P578</a> </p><ul><li><b>Description:</b> any kind of values</li> <li><b>Datatype:</b> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times" class="extiw" title="m:Wikidata/Data model">Time value</a> (1 Sandbox type per available data type)</li> <li><b>Domain:</b> any kind of values</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter:</b> any/generic (but more for testing than productive)</li> <li><b>Comments:</b></li></ul> <p>To be honest I am badly informed about wikidata, just to make that clear. I do think that I need a property to be created in order to store values, please confer <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/DrTrigonBot" title="Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/DrTrigonBot">Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/DrTrigonBot</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Infoboxes_task_force#Feasibility_of_DrTrigonBot/Subster_to_update_Wikidata" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata talk:Infoboxes task force">Wikidata talk:Infoboxes task force#Feasibility of DrTrigonBot/Subster to update Wikidata</a>. Thanks for all your help and patience. Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z-Sandbox-TimeValue_/_Spielwiese-TimeValue_/_Bac_à_sable-TimeValue_/_Pagina_delle"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span>Sorry. What do you need ? An property with a numeric datatype ? Or a property representing a numeric concept with a string as datatype ? If I take your example with swiss franc you want something like "currency division" to give the nominal value of each coin/note ( 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 1000)? <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span>In fact I think a good thing would be a generic property (e.g. "DrTrigonBot Value" or even more generic "Bot Value") for the bot in cases when it has data to write for which no property was created yet - as it is the situation right now for a property "Currency Exchange Rate" (or similar) that is needed for swiss franc. This would allow the bot to already be tested or used without having the need to create always the suitable/correct property before being able to check if the bot works at all (in that specific situation), e.g. That would be a really good and useful/helpful thing! Thanks a lot for considering this and Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T21:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z"></span>Just for a test you can see if there is a property in request for deletion using string as datatype or a property which not used in a lot of item or finally try on the demo version of wikidata. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T21:41:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z"></span>Thats clear, currently I am using something else. Also the demo was already used to adopt the bot code. What I need is something permanent. In future and daily (usual) operation there will always be a case where you have to test, since the bot is freely configurable from here - by any user. --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T22:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z"></span>I think testing bots should not be done on the productive Wikidata, except in the <a href="/wiki/Q4115189" title="Q4115189">sandbox</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T22:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:55:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span>It is not testing bots, but testing setups - as on wikipedia itself you will always have situations were you have to change something, modify setup of data, configuration and so on... at least that is what holds for me. Then I have to disagree because testing of bots is needed, e.g. in order to fullfill the bot flag request a given number (e.g. 250) of test edits have to be done. And there will in future clearly be other situations - as soon wikidata will be used frequently... Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:55:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:55:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:55:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span>I mean ... it does not need to be something bot specific, what about general maintenance (for human users)? I would even more support such a property, that can be used if it is e.g. not clear yet what property to use, one has to be renamed, other name conflicts or anything else... --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-23T17:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z"></span>Why not simply a sandbox property per datatype ? I do not see what harm can be done with that, as long as it is clear that it is a sandbox. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T20:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T22:41:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span>Sounds good! (+1) Thanks for the idea! Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T22:41:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T22:41:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-23T22:41:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span>Do you plan using that sandbox property only on sandbox/test items, or also on production items? --<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 24 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-03-23T21:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-03-24T12:22:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z"></span>I do not see anything wrong in using it other items. It will not look very good, and if we can avoid using it too massively, that is better, but raw Wikidata items do not look very good anyhow. The important thing is that it does not unintendedly get transcluded to Wikipedias and other clients. And as long as they do not query sandbox statements, I see no reason for that to happen. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-03-24T12:22:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-03-24T12:22:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-03-24T12:22:00.000Z-Faux-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span>So... are we done here, or for what are we waiting? ;) If you agree I would step forwards and create following 3 properties: <ol><li><b>Label</b>: Sandbox-CommonsMediaFile / <b>Description</b>: Sandbox property for value of type "Commons Media File" / <b>Data type</b>: Commons Media File</li> <li><b>Label</b>: Sandbox-Item / <b>Description</b>: Sandbox property for value of type "Item" / <b>Data type</b>: Item</li> <li><b>Label</b>: Sandbox-String / <b>Description</b>: Sandbox property for value of type "String" / <b>Data type</b>: String</li></ol></dd> <dd>any comments or thoughts on this? Thanks and Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-22T20:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-30T01:09:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z"></span>Ok here we go: <ol><li><a href="/wiki/Property:P368" title="Property:P368">Sandbox-CommonsMediaFile (P368)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P369" title="Property:P369">Sandbox-Item (P369)</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Property:P370" title="Property:P370">Sandbox-String (P370)</a></li></ol></dd> <dd>so these can be considered <b>done</b> but I think it makes sence to propose the future ones too and set them to the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending">pending</a> page: <ul><li><b>Label</b>: Sandbox-Quantity / <b>Description</b>: Sandbox property for value of type "Quantity" / <b>Data type</b>: Quantity</li> <li>(and all other data types to be introduced in future...)</li></ul></dd> <dd>Thanks for all your help! Greetings --<a href="/wiki/User:DrTrigon" title="User:DrTrigon">DrTrigon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DrTrigon" title="User talk:DrTrigon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-DrTrigon-2013-03-30T01:09:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:09, 30 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-30T01:09:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DrTrigon-2013-03-30T01:09:00.000Z-DrTrigon-2013-03-29T10:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IMA_status_/_IMA_Status" data-mw-thread-id="h-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"><span id="IMA_status_.2F_IMA_Status"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span>IMA status / IMA Status<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P579"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P579" title="Property:P579">IMA status and/or rank</a> <small>(P579)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P579" title="Property talk:P579">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Descripes the official IMA status of a mineral</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>not yet part of any infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>minerals (items)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>9 possible inputs per language (approved, grandfathered, redefined, renamed, questionable + approved, questionable + grandfathered, questionable + discredited, published without approval, discredited)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>e.g. Abelsonite = approved, Abernathyite = grandfathered</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://pubsites.uws.edu.au/ima-cnmnc/IMA_Master_List_(02-2013).pdf">http://pubsites.uws.edu.au/ima-cnmnc/IMA_Master_List_(02-2013).pdf</a> (3rd column)</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Bot could collect data from 3rd column and add it to minerals found in 1st column.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>Would be nice for mineral queries to exclude for example all questionable minerals. <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z-IMA_status_/_IMA_Status"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbisolo-2013-04-22T08:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Sbisolo" title="User:Sbisolo">Sbisolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbisolo" title="User talk:Sbisolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Sbisolo-2013-04-22T08:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbisolo-2013-04-22T08:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbisolo-2013-04-22T08:06:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:02:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:02:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:02:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-22T12:02:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span>Oppose the datatype. With only few possible values, item would be much better, because then you only have to translate the values to all languages once pr. value instead of once pr. mineral. <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:58:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span>datatype changed to item. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:58:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:58:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-28T14:58:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-26T22:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-04-28T17:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span>I'd like 9 possible outputs. We have already spodiosite (discredited 2003) (<a href="/wiki/Q3966942" title="Q3966942">Q3966942</a>) and pimelite (<a href="/wiki/Q3905061" title="Q3905061">Q3905061</a>). Maybe, the IMA status should be parted in two. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris.urs-o-2013-04-28T17:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-04-28T17:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-04-28T17:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-20T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="from_time_(since)" data-mw-thread-id="h-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"><span id="from_time_.28since.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span>from time (since)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z-from_time_(since)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P580"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P580" title="Property:P580">start time</a> <small>(P580)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P580" title="Property talk:P580">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The time the claim began being valid</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any claim that is valid within a certain range of time</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any time before the end time of the claim (if the claim has an end time)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>examples include: <dl><dd><ul><li>Mexico <a href="/wiki/Property:P26" title="Property:P26">head of government</a> Felipe Calderón from time December 1, 2006</li> <li>India <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of</a> sovereign state since 26 January 1950</li></ul></dd></dl></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z-from_time_(since)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:36, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z-from_time_(since)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z-from_time_(since)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span>Note that in cases like population, where change in the real-world value is effectively continuous but is only measured in discrete intervals, this qualifier would indicate the range of time the value was valid according to a given source. Here, that would be the official census of India.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:32:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z"></span>A good point was made in the proposal for the 'to time' qualifier that because census results typically represent a snapshot (i.e. an instantaneous measurement), it's incorrect to assert that the sources say claims about population counts are valid for a range of time. So I've added an 'as of' alias to this qualifier, and adjusted the 'domain' of this property to reflect that. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:32:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:32:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:32:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> This is a really common qualifier for a lot of property, any idea when the time datatype would be created? --<a href="/wiki/User:Napoleon.tan" title="User:Napoleon.tan">Napoleon.tan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Napoleon.tan" title="User talk:Napoleon.tan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>. Maybe an other property for "as of": "from time" is for the beginning of a time range and "as of" for a specific date time. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>)</li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>Are you suggesting that the 'from time' qualifier would only be valid if the 'end time' qualifier were also applied to the claim? (And the converse, that 'end time' would only be valid if 'from time' were applied?)</li></ul> <dl><dd>In that case, claims that have begun but not ended, e.g. 'India <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of</a> sovereign state since 26 January 1950', 'Universe instance of physical body since 13.8 billion years ago' would presumably also only be valid for 'as of' and not this 'from time' qualifier. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#as_of" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic">as of</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T16:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tpt-2013-04-28T16:46:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I'm suggesting that the 'from time' qualifier would only be valid if there is an 'end time' qualifier. That will allow us to move easily to a time range (value of the 'as of' qualifier) if the range feature is added in the future. So <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> now. <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tpt" title="User talk:Tpt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tpt-2013-04-28T16:46:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tpt-2013-04-28T16:46:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tpt-2013-04-28T16:46:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> – Now that it is separated from "as of", it is clear and unambiguous. And it is also very much needed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:51, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conny" title="User talk:Conny">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Conny-2013-04-28T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conny-2013-04-28T13:58:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:06:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Note that we require such a "start date"-property for all kinds of events, too. I think there's no need to create another property, but instead we can use this one. So the domain should include events as well.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:36:00.000Z"></span></li> <li>Created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P580" title="Property:P580">start time <small dir="ltr">(P580)</small></a>, as "start date" considering the above comments that it need not always be a qualifier.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Overlapping_Proposals" data-mw-thread-id="h-Overlapping_Proposals-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Overlapping_Proposals-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Overlapping Proposals<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Overlapping_Proposals-from_time_(since)-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="start_date_and_time" data-mw-thread-id="h-start_date_and_time-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-start_date_and_time-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span>start date and time<span data-mw-comment-end="h-start_date_and_time-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-start_date_and_time"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The date and time an item began</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Many</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any item which has a time range and a start date and time. Does not apply to items that are considered instantaneous events.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any time before the end time</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3411181" title="Q3411181">2012–2013 Central African Republic conflict</a>: December 10, 2012; <a href="/wiki/Q4645160" title="Q4645160">89th United States Congress</a>: January 3, 1965; <a href="/wiki/Q794210" title="Q794210">Aztec Empire</a>: March 13, 1428; <a href="/wiki/Q44626" title="Q44626">Cretaceous Period</a>: 145 million years ago; <a href="/wiki/Q1" title="Q1">Universe</a>: 13.8 billion years ago</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-start_date_and_time" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-start_date_and_time"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-start_date_and_time"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span>The example values would be formatted per <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times">TimeValue</a>. This property would go into <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending</a> until that datatype is available. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Dates_held" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dates_held-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dates_held-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span>Dates held<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dates_held-Overlapping_Proposals-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-It_Is_Me_Here-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span>Description</b>: I think that <a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">office held</a> should be augmented with the dates during which the subject held that office. In that way, we could specify that <i>e</i>.<i>g</i>. <a href="/wiki/Q207" title="Q207">George W. Bush</a> was Governor of Texas from 17 Jan 1995 until 21 December 2000, and then President from 20 Jan 2001 to 20 Jan 2009 (dates taken from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush" class="extiw" title="en:George W. Bush">enwiki</a>). Inputting the dates that way could also end disputes over how to format them (DMY, MDY, <i>etc</i>.): they could be automatically displayed in the format that users chose, without you having to change anything in edit mode in Wikipedia itself.</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter</b>: Can be mapped to <i>e</i>.<i>g</i>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Officeholder" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox Officeholder">en:Template:Infobox Officeholder</a>: term_start<i>n</i>, term_end<i>n</i>.</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: Date</li> <li><b>Domain</b>: Person</li> <li><b>Allowed values</b>: Dates</li> <li><b>Source</b>: WP infoboxes</li> <li><b>Example item and value</b>: <a href="/wiki/Q76" title="Q76">Barack Obama</a>. <a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">Office held</a>: <a href="/wiki/Q11696" title="Q11696">President of the United States</a>. Dates held: 20 Jan 2009–present.</li> <li><b>Robot and gadget jobs</b>: Perhaps mining these from WP infoboxes. Could check for inconsistencies between different language versions of Wikipedia.</li></ul> <dl><dd><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:It_Is_Me_Here&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:It Is Me Here (page does not exist)"><font color="#006600">It Is Me Here</font></a></b> <sup><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:It_Is_Me_Here" title="User talk:It Is Me Here"><font color="#CC6600">t</font></a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/It_Is_Me_Here" title="Special:Contributions/It Is Me Here"><font color="#CC6600">c</font></a></b></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-It_Is_Me_Here-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z-Dates_held" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-It_Is_Me_Here-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-It_Is_Me_Here-2013-03-14T12:25:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>. I'd like to see how "qualifiers" work before this type of property is made. This property can't be entered as its own statement as it would have no meaning without reference to some other statement. <a href="/wiki/User:Espeso" title="User:Espeso">Espeso</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espeso" title="User talk:Espeso">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Dates_held" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espeso-2013-03-15T06:06:00.000Z-Dates_held"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="to_time_(until)" data-mw-thread-id="h-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"><span id="to_time_.28until.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span>to time (until)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-to_time_(until)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P582"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P582" title="Property:P582">end time</a> <small>(P582)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P582" title="Property talk:P582">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The time the claim ended being valid</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any claim that is valid within a certain range of time</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any time after the beginning time of the claim (if the claim has a beginning time)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Mexico <a href="/wiki/Property:P26" title="Property:P26">head of government</a> Felipe Calderón to time November 30, 2012</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-to_time_(until)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-to_time_(until)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-to_time_(until)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span>(See comment from Lavallen below.) <s>Note that in cases like population, where change in the real-world value is effectively continuous but is only measured in discrete intervals, this qualifier would indicate the range of time the value was valid according to a given source. Here, that would be the official census of India.</s> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T13:48:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Napoleon.tan" title="User:Napoleon.tan">Napoleon.tan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Napoleon.tan" title="User talk:Napoleon.tan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:52, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-20T13:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:59:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:59:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:59:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-20T13:59:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span>I understand the Mexico and US-example, but not the India-example. A census is normally made a certain day, or a at least a certain year. Such numbers are very seldom in a very long range of time. Would it not be better to search for the latest census-date (2001) if you want to know the numbers for 2010? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lavallen">Lavallen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Lavallen" title="Special:Block/Lavallen">block</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z"></span>Great point! You're right at least about the United States census; the census makes a point of noting that it represents things as they were on precisely April 1. So at least the US census is a snapshot, i.e. an instantaneous measurement. I'm not familiar with the details of the Indian census, but I assume it's the same in that regard.</li></ul> <dl><dd>The broader clarification seems to be this: if a statement represents a fact tied to a specific date, then it should have a "from time" qualifier but not an "to time" qualifier. Population counts and estimates are a good example of this: the sources are only asserting that their claim is valid for one specific date, not a range of time. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-20T14:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> – How would you distinguish between a statement for a specific date, and a statement for a state that has not yet ended, and thus is still valid? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T15:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:19:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z"></span>With <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#as_of" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic">as of</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:19:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:19:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:19:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-20T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-145.53.76.181-2013-04-20T15:12:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span>'to time' not needed for population time stamps. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/145.53.76.181" title="Special:Contributions/145.53.76.181">145.53.76.181</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-145.53.76.181-2013-04-20T15:12:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-145.53.76.181-2013-04-20T15:12:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-145.53.76.181-2013-04-20T15:12:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> – needed together with "from time" -- <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T05:52:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. But how to handle two not crossing timelines for an object? From 1992-1999 and 2001-2005 -> will this work? <a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conny" title="User talk:Conny">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z"></span>It will most likely work, even if it will look like: <code>From: 1992, 2001; To: 1999, 2005;</code> But it will be a challenge to make templates who can make it look nice. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lavallen">Lavallen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Lavallen" title="Special:Block/Lavallen">block</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z-Conny-2013-04-28T14:00:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z"></span>Wouldn't it be better to just set it as two separate statements, each with their own from-time/to-time qualifiers? --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Lavallen-2013-04-28T14:19:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Should we decide in advance whether the values of this are inclusive or exclusive (ie does September 1-September 20 include the 20th?) ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-1"></span>Good question. I think we should decide that before this qualifier (and from time) is created. In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush" class="extiw" title="en:George W. Bush">George W. Bush</a>, the subject's presidency is shown as January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009. According to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_inauguration_of_George_W._Bush" class="extiw" title="en:First inauguration of George W. Bush">First inauguration of George W. Bush</a>, he was in office as of 12:01 p.m. January 20, 2001. So those 'from date' and 'to date' values are inclusive. I'm not sure if this is standard for that field's use for all politicians, though.</dd> <dd>For what it's worth, popular SQL implementations of "BETWEEN" make that operator inclusive, see e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/comparison-operators.html#operator_between">BETWEEN in MySQL</a>. Perhaps that indicates that this qualifier should be inclusive.</dd> <dd>Are there any prominent counterexamples, where 'from date' or 'to date' are used in the exclusive sense in a certain domain?</dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li>Should this be limited to use as a qualifier? Some main items could use this, too. For example, <a href="/wiki/Q1719918" title="Q1719918">Q1719918</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T18:38:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z"></span>There have been property proposals for 'date', 'start time' and 'end time' awaiting feedback for over a month (over three months for 'date') at <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Event" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Event">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Event</a>, which would apply to things like <a href="/wiki/Q1719918" title="Q1719918">Presidency of George W. Bush</a> (Q1719918). The labels 'start time', 'end time' and 'date' seem more idiomatic to apply to <a href="/wiki/Q1297532" title="Q1297532">events</a> than 'from time', 'to time' and 'as of', with 'date' and 'as of' seeming especially awkward to interchange. (Saying '<a href="/wiki/Q223288" title="Q223288">Tenerife airport disaster</a> <as of> March 27, 1977' is clearly worse than saying '<a href="/wiki/Q223288" title="Q223288">Tenerife airport disaster</a> <date> March 27, 1977'.) <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-28T18:38:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T18:38:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-28T18:38:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-04-28T15:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> As mentioned above, the domain should include events, too (where this wouldn't be used as a qualifier but a "top-level"-property).--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T13:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li>Created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P582" title="Property:P582">end time <small dir="ltr">(P582)</small></a>, "end date" considering the above comments that it need not always be a qualifier.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="end_date_and_time" data-mw-thread-id="h-end_date_and_time-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-end_date_and_time-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span>end date and time<span data-mw-comment-end="h-end_date_and_time-to_time_(until)-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-end_date_and_time"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The date and time an item ended</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Many</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any item which has a time range and an end date and time. Does not apply to items that are considered instantaneous events.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any time after the start time</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q4645160" title="Q4645160">89th United States Congress</a>: January 3, 1967; <a href="/wiki/Q794210" title="Q794210">Aztec Empire</a>: August 13, 1521; <a href="/wiki/Q44626" title="Q44626">Cretaceous Period</a>: 66 million years ago</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-end_date_and_time" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-end_date_and_time"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-end_date_and_time"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-1"></span>The example values would be formatted per <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_model#Dates_and_times">TimeValue</a>. This property would go into <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending</a> until that datatype is available. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T04:01:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T04:00:00.000Z-1"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="as_of" data-mw-thread-id="h-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"></span>as of<span data-mw-comment-end="h-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z-as_of"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P585"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P585" title="Property:P585">point in time</a> <small>(P585)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P585" title="Property talk:P585">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The point in time for which the source supports the claim</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any claim that is supported by a source for a specific point in time, but not a range of time</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Any time</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>United States of America population 308,745,538 as of April 1, 2010</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z-as_of" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a>, originally suggested by <a href="/wiki/User:Tpt" title="User:Tpt">Tpt<span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z-as_of"></span></a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z-as_of"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T06:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> – It seems clear to me that we need a separate qualifier for point of time. (Compare to the discussions for "from time" and "to time" -- <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-21T06:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T06:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-21T06:00:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-21T16:08:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Complete the set of qualifier properties for "time". --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-04-21T16:08:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-21T16:08:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-04-21T16:08:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-22T06:09:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - So how can qualifier be created? --<a href="/wiki/User:Napoleon.tan" title="User:Napoleon.tan">Napoleon.tan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Napoleon.tan" title="User talk:Napoleon.tan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-22T06:09:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-22T06:09:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-22T06:09:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>They are not. Qualifiers are just properties of properties so every property can be used as Qualifer. That means if the property proposals for 'date', 'start time' and 'end time' are succesful this is not needed anymore.--<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-08T10:39:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-08T14:04:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-05-08T14:04:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-08T14:04:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-05-08T14:04:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-05-14T13:07:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-30T12:24:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span>I would prefer a more general "date" property, as it would be applicable both as an "as of" qualifier and as a stand-alone statement for punctual events. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-30T12:24:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-30T12:24:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-30T12:24:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-30T12:47:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span>Created as <a href="/wiki/Property:P585" title="Property:P585">point in time <small dir="ltr">(P585)</small></a> per Zolo --<a href="/wiki/User:Saehrimnir" title="User:Saehrimnir">Saehrimnir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Saehrimnir" title="User talk:Saehrimnir">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-30T12:47:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-30T12:47:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Saehrimnir-2013-05-30T12:47:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T21:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Date_/_Datum_/" data-mw-thread-id="h-Date_/_Datum_/-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"><span id="Date_.2F_Datum_.2F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Date_/_Datum_/-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"></span>Date / Datum /<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Date_/_Datum_/-as_of-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Faux-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span>Description</b>: date when the event occured</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: Date</li> <li><b>Links</b>:</li> <li><b>Domain</b>: historical events like catastrophic</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b> aircraft occurrence: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence">en:Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence</a> (date parameter)</li> <li><b>Comments:</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Faux-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 18 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Faux-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Faux-2013-02-18T13:41:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span>Some events span periods of time, days, weeks, etc. So, this would need to be start and end date/time. Probably applies to almost all events. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 21 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z-Date_/_Datum_/"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-07T14:46:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">Doostdar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Doostdar-2013-03-07T14:46:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-07T14:46:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doostdar-2013-03-07T14:46:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span>Obviously <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. I can't believe that we have over 300 properties, but none to say that the 2004 elections were held in 2004. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-03-20T00:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z"></span>Well, Wikidata doesn't actually support the Date data type yet...</li> <li>Should this be split into start date/end date, or does the data type handle that by itself? --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-03-20T00:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 20 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-03-20T00:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-03-20T00:11:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>: Essential property for events. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-21T20:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IpniAuthorId" data-mw-thread-id="h-IpniAuthorId-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IpniAuthorId-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"></span>IpniAuthorId<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IpniAuthorId-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z-IpniAuthorId"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P586"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P586" title="Property:P586">IPNI author ID</a> <small>(P586)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P586" title="Property talk:P586">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Author-Id of a <a href="/wiki/Property:P405" title="Property:P405">taxon author <small dir="ltr">(P405)</small></a> maintained by <a href="/wiki/Q922063" title="Q922063">International Plant Names Index</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Source of <a href="/wiki/Property:P428" title="Property:P428">botanist author abbreviation <small dir="ltr">(P428)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>IpniAuthorId of <a href="/wiki/Q1043" title="Q1043">L.</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q1043" title="Q1043">Carl von Linné</a>) is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=12653-1">12653-1</a></td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>Single value, Unique value</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Add <code>'http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=$1'</code> to <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js">Gadget-AuthorityControl.js</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Provides a direct link to the <a href="/wiki/Q922063" title="Q922063">International Plant Names Index</a> whichs maintains the <a href="/wiki/Property:P428" title="Property:P428">botanist author abbreviation <small dir="ltr">(P428)</small></a>. Should be used as source. --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z-IpniAuthorId" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z-IpniAuthorId"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z-IpniAuthorId"></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-29T07:24:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - sinnvoll. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-29T07:24:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-29T07:24:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-29T07:24:00.000Z-Succu-2013-05-26T13:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z"><span id="Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_.28MMSI.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z"></span>Maritime Mobile Service Identity (MMSI)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P587"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P587" title="Property:P587">MMSI</a> <small>(P587)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P587" title="Property talk:P587">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>MMSI is described here: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:MMSI" class="extiw" title="w:en:MMSI">MMSI</a>. A unique ID for ships. Could link to: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=220497000">http://www.marinetraffic.com/</a> (forms part of the URL).</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Sample: <a href="/wiki/Q4037895" title="Q4037895">Ebba Mærsk <small>(Q4037895)</small></a> => 220497000</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>various sources, exists in some infoboxes for ships, otherwise easily found</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 25 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-25T17:25:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T21:01:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T21:01:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T21:01:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T21:01:00.000Z-Maritime_Mobile_Service_Identity_(MMSI)"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ISO" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISO-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ISO-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span>ISO<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ISO-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z-ISO"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P503"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P503" title="Property:P503">ISO standard</a> <small>(P503)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P503" title="Property talk:P503">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the ISO (International Standardization Organization) reference</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>authority control</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>entities standardized by ISO</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>valid ISO numbers; e.g. 1:400, 9001, 27001</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><Office Open XML> <i>standardized by ISO</i> <29500></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.iso.org/iso/search/extendedsearchstandards.htm?formKeyword=&displayForm=true&published=true">http://www.iso.org/iso/search/extendedsearchstandards.htm?formKeyword=&displayForm=true&published=true</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Faux" title="User:Faux">Faux</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Faux" title="User talk:Faux">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Hurricanefan24" title="User:Hurricanefan24">Hurricanefan24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hurricanefan24" title="User talk:Hurricanefan24">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z-ISO" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 28 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z-ISO"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z-ISO"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-29T17:44:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I don't think this is an infobox parameter. Do you have a link? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-03-29T17:44:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-29T17:44:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-03-29T17:44:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T20:53:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T20:53:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T20:53:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T20:53:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T07:38:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Standardized, useful - <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T07:38:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T07:38:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T07:38:00.000Z-Hurricanefan24-2013-03-28T18:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-10T23:17:00.000Z-ISO"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P503" title="Property:P503">P503</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-10T23:17:00.000Z-ISO" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:17, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-10T23:17:00.000Z-ISO"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-10T23:17:00.000Z-ISO"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Team_years_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Team_years_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"><span id="Team_years_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Team_years_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>Team years (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Team_years_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Team_years_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The years of appearances of player for every team he played with.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football biography">en:template:Infobox football biography</a> <b>years</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>1850-2050</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Team_years_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Team_years_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Team_years_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Once the <i>date</i> datatype is available, it seems clear we will quickly have generic 'from/start' and 'to/end' properties which should cover this when used as qualifiers for 'member of team' claims. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z"></span>Ok. But when will be available? <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> They are working right now on this data type (see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates" title="Wikidata:Status updates">Wikidata:Status_updates</a>). However, no idea how long it would still take. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T17:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as user Joshbaumgartner. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:51, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:51:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-22T12:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> per Joshbaumgartner and Nightwish62. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-22T12:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-22T12:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-22T12:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Currentclub_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Currentclub_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"><span id="Currentclub_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Currentclub_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>Currentclub (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Currentclub_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Currentclub_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The current club of a player</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football biography">en:template:Infobox football biography</a> <b>currentclub</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>1</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Currentclub_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Currentclub_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Currentclub_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><del><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T14:34:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b></del> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T14:34:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T14:34:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T14:34:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-07T13:54:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - We should probably rename this to "club" and then add time qualifiers. Queries can return the current club. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-07T13:54:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-07T13:54:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-07T13:54:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps this cam be done in <a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">member of sports team</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-07T17:04:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z"></span>Property:P54</a> is redundant enough already to <a href="/wiki/Property:P463" title="Property:P463">Property:P463</a>, which is arguably redundant to <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">Property:P361</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Jfhutson" title="User:Jfhutson">Jfhutson</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jfhutson" title="User talk:Jfhutson">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jfhutson-2013-05-07T17:04:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-07T17:04:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jfhutson-2013-05-07T17:04:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-07T14:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-23PowerZ-2013-05-07T20:27:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Redundant, can be done with time qualifiers. —<a href="/wiki/User:23PowerZ" title="User:23PowerZ"><font color="red">★</font>P<i>οωερ</i><font color="black"><b>Z</b></font></a><sub><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:23PowerZ" title="User talk:23PowerZ">talk</a></sub></sub> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-23PowerZ-2013-05-07T20:27:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-23PowerZ-2013-05-07T20:27:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-23PowerZ-2013-05-07T20:27:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:38:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Time sensitive sister-property to <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">Member of sports team</a></i>. Qualifiers will allow 'current' team to be derived. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:38:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:38:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:38:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"><span id="Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>Assocciation Football Player Position (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The player's most common position or positions. If a player is known for playing in multiple roles then explain the point more fully within the article.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football biography">en:template:Infobox football biography</a> <b>position</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>I suggest the use only of the general positions <i>Goalkeeper, Defenter, Midfielder, Stiker</i></td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Position_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:26:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) 08:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC) changed to oppose. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:26:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:26:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:26:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:49:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> redundant with <a href="/wiki/Property:P413" title="Property:P413">Position (on team)</a> which is perfectly suitable for association football positions as well as any other sport. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:49:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:49:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T09:49:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:45:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as Joshbaumgartner. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:45:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:45, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:45:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T09:45:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"><span id="Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>Assocciation Football Player Height (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The player's height in the units most common within the country he or she plays.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_biography" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football biography">en:template:Infobox football biography</a> <b>height</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>0-10</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:26, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z-Assocciation_Football_Player_Height_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:24:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> I am sure we are going to have a "height" property and I don't see that this property could have a different value. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:24:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:24:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-04T08:24:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span>I don't think "height" is use out of sports templates. But, we can change the title as height. <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-03T01:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span>See also <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Person#Height_of_person" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Person">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Person#Height_of_person</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-04T12:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T13:44:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z"></span>Ok. I cancel this proposal and lets discuss the other which came first and its general. <a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T13:44:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T13:44:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-04T13:44:00.000Z-Stryn-2013-05-04T13:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Student_of_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Student_of_(en)-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"><span id="Student_of_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Student_of_(en)-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"></span>Student of (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Student_of_(en)-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>have been the student of someone</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>there is already <a href="/wiki/Property:P185" title="Property:P185">Property:P185</a>, but that does not apply to older times. In greek philosophy the relationship between a student and teacher is most important. For instance, <a href="/wiki/Q859" title="Q859">Q859</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q913" title="Q913">Q913</a> or <a href="/wiki/Q1287486" title="Q1287486">Q1287486</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q317947" title="Q317947">Q317947</a>. In fact <i>Student of</i> could even replace <a href="/w/index.php?title=P185&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="P185 (page does not exist)">P185</a> as it covers a broader set of situations.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Alexander_Doria" title="User:Alexander Doria">Alexander Doria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alexander_Doria" title="User talk:Alexander Doria">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Alexander_Doria" title="User:Alexander Doria"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)-1"></span>Alexander Doria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alexander_Doria" title="User talk:Alexander Doria">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z-Student_of_(en)-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"></span>see above: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Person#student" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Person">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Person#student</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z-Alexander_Doria-2013-05-31T22:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-06-01T13:15:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z"></span>Sorry for the duplicate. This proposal can be closed. <a href="/wiki/User:Alexander_Doria" title="User:Alexander Doria">Alexander Doria</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alexander_Doria" title="User talk:Alexander Doria">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Alexander_Doria-2013-06-01T13:15:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-06-01T13:15:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alexander_Doria-2013-06-01T13:15:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-06-01T07:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_город" data-mw-thread-id="h-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"><span id="Largest_city.2F_gr.C3.B6.C3.9Fte_Stadt_.2F_Plus_grande_ville.2F_.D0.9A.D1.80.D1.83.D0.BF.D0.BD.D0.B5.D0.B9.D1.88.D0.B8.D0.B9_.D0.B3.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.B4"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span>Largest city/ größte Stadt / Plus grande ville/ Крупнейший город<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Largest city in an administrative division</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_U.S._County" class="extiw" title="w:Template:Infobox U.S. County">w:Template:Infobox U.S. County</a> largest city</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Conties, states, countries</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Boroughs, cities, towns</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q488693" title="Q488693">Q488693</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q1133544" title="Q1133544">Q1133544</a>), <a href="/wiki/Q1400" title="Q1400">Q1400</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q1345" title="Q1345">Q1345</a>), <a href="/wiki/Q30" title="Q30">Q30</a> (<a href="/wiki/Q60" title="Q60">Q60</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q328" title="Q328">English Wikipedia</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>...<a href="/wiki/User:King_jakob_c_2" class="mw-redirect" title="User:King jakob c 2">Jakob</a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:King_jakob_c_2" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:King jakob c 2">Megaphone</a>,<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/King_jakob_c_2" title="Special:Contributions/King jakob c 2">Telescope</a></sup></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>: Redundant of proposal <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place#largest_city_.2F_gr.C3.B6.C3.9Fte_Stadt" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Place">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Place#largest_city_.2F_gr.C3.B6.C3.9Fte_Stadt</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z-Largest_city/_größte_Stadt_/_Plus_grande_ville/_Крупнейший_горо"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:17:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Subjective property: which criterion is used to determine the largest parameter ? This can be deduced by multiple parameters query like "city of XX with the biggest population" or "city of XX with the biggest GNP". <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:17:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:17:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:17:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-12T21:33:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, per Snipre. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-05-12T21:33:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-12T21:33:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-12T21:33:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-05-11T10:04:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"><span id="Continental_confederation_affiliation_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span>Continental confederation affiliation (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The year the association joined the region (AFC, CAF, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, OFC, UEFA))</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_association" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football association">en:template:Infobox football association</a> <b>Region affiliation</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organization (football clubs)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Number (1916- ) (The oldest region association create on 1916)</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> This is not necessary. Simply use <i>continental confederation</i> with a qualifier <i>from/start</i> (e.g. <b>My Favorite Team</b> - <i>continental confederation</i> - <b>CONCACAF</b> - <i>from</i> - <b>9 May 2013</b>). Obviously this has to wait on new datatypes, but so does this proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:06:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as above <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:06:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:06:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:06:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt" data-mw-thread-id="h-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"><span id="Host_city_.2F_Austragungsstadt"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"></span>Host city / Austragungsstadt<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>city in which the event takes/took place</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"City" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_GrandSlamTournaments" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox GrandSlamTournaments">en:template:Infobox GrandSlamTournaments</a> (and many others)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>event</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>cities</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Open_(tennis)" class="extiw" title="en:US Open (tennis)">en:US Open (tennis)</a>: "New York City"; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Republican_National_Convention" class="extiw" title="en:2000 Republican National Convention">en:2000 Republican National Convention</a>: "Philadelphia"; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLII" class="extiw" title="en:Super Bowl XLII">en:Super Bowl XLII</a>: "Glendale, Arizona", <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_2009" class="extiw" title="en:Eurovision Song Contest 2009">en:Eurovision Song Contest 2009</a>: "Moscow"</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z-Host_city_/_Austragungsstadt"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:47:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> covered by <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">P:P131</a></i>, and this broadens it to be able to cover events hosted in counties, provinces, etc, not just cities. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:47:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:47:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:47:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-04-26T08:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="type_(of_school,_university,_...)" data-mw-thread-id="h-type_(of_school,_university,_...)-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"><span id="type_.28of_school.2C_university.2C_....29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-type_(of_school,_university,_...)-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span>type (of school, university, ...)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-type_(of_school,_university,_...)-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z-type_(of_school,_university,_...)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the type of school (all schools, universities, colleges)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>type (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox_university" class="extiw" title="en:Infobox university">en:Infobox university</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>universities/colleges etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><b>Comments:</b> Values would include public, business school, music school and many others. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z-type_(of_school,_university,_...)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z-type_(of_school,_university,_...)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z-type_(of_school,_university,_...)"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:15:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span>I'm a bit worried about the range of types. Public vs priavate is binary. Arts vs business vs technical is an axis. University vs universitary institute vs God knows what depends on legislation. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:15:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:15:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-02-25T23:15:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span>Perhaps it could be limited to public, private and national? Are there any other main types? <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z"></span>If it's truly "all schools," then primary, secondary, and post-secondary would seem necessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 3 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-03-03T22:40:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-26T15:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:27:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Start by using <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">Is a(n)</a>. There is only one "type" field in that infobox, so there is no risk of conflict. The allowed item objects is not a limited list, so the bots don't need another type property. <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:27:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:27:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mange01-2013-03-07T02:27:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>: redundant with <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of</a> (P31) and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of</a> (P279). (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:36, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z"></span>Looks a little to country-specific to be usefull in a global perspective. It is always difficult for me as a Sweede to describe what kind of education I have, since we normally starts in University later than other in other nations and our time in school is normally shorter. Also post-graduate students have another kind of relation to the school than in other countries, even if the exam is the same. <a href="/wiki/User:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lavallen">Lavallen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Lavallen" title="Special:Block/Lavallen">block</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lavallen-2013-04-20T09:05:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-27T02:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:31:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> per <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a>'s redundancy comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:31:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:31, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:31:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T10:31:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-02-24T15:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Song_engaged_to_/" data-mw-thread-id="h-Song_engaged_to_/-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"><span id="Song_engaged_to_.2F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Song_engaged_to_/-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span>Song engaged to /<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Song_engaged_to_/-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z-Song_engaged_to_/"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>song(s) name(s) granted to the traditional custom</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>it can be easily excluded from other certain ceremony templates or categories eg. ,and </td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>subject domain is ceremonies, celebrations, festivals and holiday; object domain is song(s) or pieces of songs or poem(s) name(s) recently or traditionally sung or written</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><b>Comments</b>: Some cultural events are traditionally accompanied by several old songs eg. you cannot consider Persian Nowruz ceremony separable from Doa-ye-Tahvil song in Iran. Sometimes there are songs improvised on a ceremony eg. Nowrouz Album, by Iranian singer, Shahram Nazeri, is dedicated exclusively to Nowrouz festival. Another example of this type is Happy Holiday, a popular Christmas song composed by Irving Berlin. As well as, "The Christmas Song" written in 1944 by M. torme & B. Wells and "stay cool by thinking cool", the most-performed Christmas song, together are some other samples for the proposed wikidata property. <a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">Doostdar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z-Song_engaged_to_/" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:34, 8 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z-Song_engaged_to_/"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z-Song_engaged_to_/"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:27:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, the relation between the two subjects is too weak it me. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:27:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:27:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:27:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-08T20:34:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, I think this should be replaced with 'theme' as this would allow a less niche property whilst also helping ensure a better world view (they have different Christmas songs in Spain vs. U.K.). Basically I think this should be a property attached to the song etc. not the event.</li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Championship_seasons" data-mw-thread-id="h-Championship_seasons-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Championship_seasons-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"></span>Championship seasons<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Championship_seasons-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z-Championship_seasons"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>seasons in which team won a championship</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organization (sports teams)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>type of linked items,allowed values (if limited)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>The <a href="/wiki/Q652879" title="Q652879">Florida Marlins</a> item could use <a href="/wiki/Q4491156" title="Q4491156">1997 Florida Marlins season</a> and<a href="/wiki/Q4601379" title="Q4601379">2003 Florida Marlins season</a> as objects that fit in this property.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:AutomaticStrikeout" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AutomaticStrikeout"><span style="color:#FF8C00"><b>Automatic</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:AutomaticStrikeout" title="User talk:AutomaticStrikeout"><span style="color:#0000FF"><i><b>Strikeout</b></i></span></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>This property would allow us to list championship seasons in items about sports teams. <a href="/wiki/User:AutomaticStrikeout" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AutomaticStrikeout"><span style="color:#FF8C00"><b>Automatic</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:AutomaticStrikeout" title="User talk:AutomaticStrikeout"><span style="color:#0000FF"><i><b>Strikeout</b></i></span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z-Championship_seasons" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z-Championship_seasons"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z-Championship_seasons"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:43:00.000Z-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Use the title of the competition or the name of the cup with the year as qualifier. Wikidata is not Wikipedia linking article between them. Or the best is to used the below proposal <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Organization#Standings_position" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Organization#Standings positionwith</a> the first position in order to determine the years when the team won the competition. Or use the property<a href="/wiki/Property:P166" title="Property:P166">award received</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:43:00.000Z-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:43:00.000Z-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:43:00.000Z-AutomaticStrikeout-2013-05-11T15:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FIFA_affiliation_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-FIFA_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"><span id="FIFA_affiliation_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FIFA_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span>FIFA affiliation (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FIFA_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-FIFA_affiliation_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The year the association joined FIFA</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_association" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football association">en:template:Infobox football association</a> <b>FIFA affiliation</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organization (football clubs)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>1904- (FIFA founded on 1904) or Not member</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-FIFA_affiliation_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-FIFA_affiliation_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-FIFA_affiliation_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> This is not necessary. Simply use <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P463" title="Property:P463">member of</a></i> with a qualifier <i>from/start</i> (e.g. <b>My Favorite Team</b> - <i>member of</i> - <b>FIFA</b> - <i>from</i> - <b>9 May 2013</b>). Obviously this has to wait on new datatypes, but so does this proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as above <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"><span id="Book_.28title.29_.2F_Buch_.28Titel.29_.2F_Livre_.28titre.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span>Book (title) / Buch (Titel) / Livre (titre)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The title of the book.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><b>Comment:</b> Example: Source <i><a href="/wiki/Q11191" title="Q11191">The World Factbook</a></i>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 19 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, the item description exists for that. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2013-04-06T11:43:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span>The item description is multilingual. Only one of those languages is the book title. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Filceolaire-2013-04-06T11:43:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:43, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-04-06T11:43:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-04-06T11:43:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-04-06T14:21:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>: if you mean original title, there is <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P357&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P357 (page does not exist)">Property:P357</a>. I think the item label is for that.--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-04-06T14:21:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-04-06T14:21:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-04-06T14:21:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><code><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-14T00:32:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Not_done" title="Template:Not done">Not done</a>}}</code> per consensus against its creation and existence of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P357&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P357 (page does not exist)">Property:P357</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-14T00:32:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 14 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-14T00:32:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-14T00:32:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-19T18:06:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-04-14T21:36:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span>Actually I had created <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P357&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P357 (page does not exist)">P:P357</a> as "title", par another discussion (about journal articles, I think). It was renamed to "original title" afterwards, so that we stil need a "title" property. We can really not assume that the label will always be the same as the title. For instance, old books may have very long titles, that do not fit into a label, or a book may have two titles (for instance translations), or an article in non-latin script may have a transliterated label (which would follow a rather common practice) that would obscure the real title. I think the simplest solution would be to rename <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P357&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P357 (page does not exist)">P:P357</a> back to "title", as using a qualifer for "original" would be more flexible, and much clearer books that were never translated, and where title and original title are the same. In any case, a "title" property is needed. I don't see any use to restricting to books though, as the property is even more needed for journal articles cites in sources, and for some artworks. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-04-14T21:36:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-04-14T21:36:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-04-14T21:36:00.000Z-Book_(title)_/_Buch_(Titel)_/_Livre_(titre)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"><span id="Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span>Sub continental confederation affiliation (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The year the association joined the subregion (i.e. CECAFA, CEMAC, COSAFA, UNAF, WAFU))</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_football_association" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox football association">en:template:Infobox football association</a> <b>Region affiliation</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>organization (football clubs)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Number (1916- ) (The oldest region association create on 1916)</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>they should be allowed</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Xaris333" title="User:Xaris333">Xaris333</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xaris333" title="User talk:Xaris333">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-Sub_continental_confederation_affiliation_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> This is not necessary. Simply use <i>subcontinental confederation</i> with a qualifier <i>from/start</i> (e.g. <b>My Favorite Team</b> - <i>subcontinental confederation</i> - <b>UNAF</b> - <i>from</i> - <b>9 May 2013</b>). Obviously this has to wait on new datatypes, but so does this proposal. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-10T04:14:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as above <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-12T09:07:00.000Z-Xaris333-2013-05-09T02:52:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Subsidiary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subsidiary-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Subsidiary-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"></span>Subsidiary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Subsidiary-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>An organisation which is a subsidiary of another organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Can be mapped to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_company" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox company">en:template:infobox company</a>, with its field called <i>subsid</i>. Also<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_airline" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox airline">en:template:infobox airline</a>, though its field is called <i>subsidiaries</i>.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Organisation</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>linked objects</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways" class="extiw" title="en:British Airways">en:British Airways</a> would be listed as a subsidiary on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Airlines_Group" class="extiw" title="en:International Airlines Group">en:International Airlines Group</a>. Then, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BA_CityFlyer" class="extiw" title="en:BA CityFlyer">en:BA CityFlyer</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSkies" class="extiw" title="en:OpenSkies">en:OpenSkies</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Limited" class="extiw" title="en:British Airways Limited">en:British Airways Limited</a> would be listed as subsidiaries on the British Airways page.</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>several infoboxes use this, like the ones given above, and probably others</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Should presumably be reciprocal with parent company, proposed above.</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><p> have left the German/French names blank because the interwiki links for subsidiary both link to articles called "filiale" which translate as "branch", and I'm not 100% if that's exactly the same meaning. (After all, branch can also mean two branches of the same bank, for example.) <a href="/wiki/User:Buttons_to_Push_Buttons" title="User:Buttons to Push Buttons">Buttons to Push Buttons</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buttons_to_Push_Buttons" title="User talk:Buttons to Push Buttons">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z-Subsidiary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:59, 10 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I don´t know, but <a href="/wiki/Property:P127" title="Property:P127">Property:P127</a> (owner of the subject) seems to be rather similar. "The owner of British Airways is International Airlines Group". --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-10T09:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z"></span>You're right, for some reason I was under the impression that property was for people only. Would it be an issue to use a field called owner for infoboxes which use parameter subsid? Not something I'm qualified to answer. And is there a need for distinction between ownership by people and ownership by organisations? Not sure on this one, but perhaps not. <a href="/wiki/User:Buttons_to_Push_Buttons" title="User:Buttons to Push Buttons">Buttons to Push Buttons</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Buttons_to_Push_Buttons" title="User talk:Buttons to Push Buttons">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z"></span>I think, that at the moment only the developers are qualified to answer. In my view,<a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Inclusion_syntax#Examples">this</a> shows that the property name is used only in the infoboxes, but will not be displayed. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z-Buttons_to_Push_Buttons-2013-03-11T23:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-03-12T18:38:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z"></span>Actually, P127 should be on the above property, "subsidiary" is the opposite :). I dont know if there is any benefit in having a different property for people and for companies, but the current trend is toward rather general property, so it would sound more consistent to have just one. And the current property is already used for companies. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-03-12T18:38:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-03-12T18:38:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-03-12T18:38:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-12T00:16:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>: One property is enough. With checking for a second property e.g. gnd-type or something else one can conclude if the property means subsidiary or something else. I added this name as alias</dd></dl> <p>And Zolo is right, subsidaries is the opposite of <a href="/wiki/Property:P127" title="Property:P127">P:P127</a>. This confused me for some minutes. I really hope we get the “bidirectional” properties <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#bidirectional_properties" title="Wikidata:Project chat">Wikidata:Project_chat#bidirectional_properties</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Svebert" title="User:Svebert">Svebert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Svebert" title="User talk:Svebert">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-Subsidiary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:44, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-Subsidiary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Pictogram_move.svg/15px-Pictogram_move.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Pictogram_move.svg/23px-Pictogram_move.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Pictogram_move.svg/30px-Pictogram_move.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Move</b> from unsorted to organizations. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 17 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> no need for this as it can be queried. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 17 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-17T05:17:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><big><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T18:18:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span>Already created: see <a href="/wiki/Property:P355" title="Property:P355">Property:P355</a></b></big> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-26T18:18:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T18:18:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-26T18:18:00.000Z-Svebert-2013-03-16T10:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…" data-mw-thread-id="h-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"><span id="Country_of_origin_.2F_Produktionsland_.2F_.E2.80.A6"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"></span>Country of origin / Produktionsland / …<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P495"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P495" title="Property:P495">country of origin</a> <small>(P495)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P495" title="Property talk:P495">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The country of origin from the creative work.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_television" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox television">en:Template:Infobox television</a> & <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_film" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox film">en:Template:Infobox film</a>: <b>country</b>, <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Fernsehsendung" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Fernsehsendung">de:Vorlage:Infobox Fernsehsendung</a> & <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Film" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Film">de:Vorlage:Infobox Film</a>: <b>Produktionsland</b>/<b>PL</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>films, television series, maybe other creative works</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>countries</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q30" title="Q30">United States</a> for <a href="/wiki/Q1079" title="Q1079">Breaking Bad</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>possible</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>I don't know if other creative works besides film and television series use this property. It would also be possible to reuse the<a href="/wiki/Property:P17" title="Property:P17">Property:P17</a>, if the description is slightly adjusted, but I would prefer to seperate the "country of origin" from a the location of an item (<a href="/wiki/Property:P17" title="Property:P17">Property:P17</a>). Please comment what your opinion is!--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:33, 11 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z-Country_of_origin_/_Produktionsland_/_…"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-05-06T17:29:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Created the <a href="/wiki/Property:P495" title="Property:P495">Property:P495</a> – Country of origin. nearly a month without any objections.--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-05-06T17:29:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-05-06T17:29:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-05-06T17:29:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-04-11T16:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre" data-mw-thread-id="h-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"><span id="Subtitle_.2F_Untertitel_.2F_Sous-titre"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span>Subtitle / Untertitel / Sous-titre<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P392"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P392&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P392 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P392)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P392&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P392 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The subtitle of the book.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li>Helpful for the info boxes. Especially scientific work tend to have pretty long subtitles, that are not always suitable to print in full length.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 4 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z-Subtitle_/_Untertitel_/_Sous-titre"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, although I'm not familiar with works with subtitles. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-19T19:31:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, should also be used for movies and other creative works --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-09T23:08:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z"></span>Indeed, documentary films in particular often have use a subtitles, after the main title. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-09T23:08:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 9 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-09T23:08:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-09T23:08:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-26T17:59:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. I would recommend original subtitle, like <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P357&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P357 (page does not exist)">original title</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-18T10:09:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Maybe, when qualifiers will be available, we could use them to add more subtitles adding a "qualifier" like "language edition". --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-04-18T10:09:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-18T10:09:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-04-18T10:09:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:48:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Napoleon.tan" title="User:Napoleon.tan">Napoleon.tan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Napoleon.tan" title="User talk:Napoleon.tan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:48:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:48:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:48:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-09T06:13:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Already done</b> as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P392&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P392 (page does not exist)">Property:P392</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-05-09T06:13:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:13, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-09T06:13:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-05-09T06:13:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-02-04T01:29:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Era" data-mw-thread-id="h-Era-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Era-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span>Era<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Era-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z-Era"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the era in which the writer, the poet or the author of a literature book has lived</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Period indicated in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Template:Infobox_writer/doc" class="extiw" title="w:en:Template:Infobox writer/doc">w:en:Template:Infobox writer/doc</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">دوستدار ایران بزرگ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>As it is indicated in the infobox writer, the era will be calculated according to time from first publication to last. For a sample refer to English wikipedia article <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Ferdowsi" class="extiw" title="w:en:Ferdowsi">w:en:Ferdowsi</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">دوستدار ایران بزرگ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z-Era" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z-Era"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z-Era"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-17T15:29:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> You probably mean "period", but this should be clear by the list of publications. Description: "Dates from first publication to last publication." (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Ferdowsi" class="extiw" title="w:en:Ferdowsi">w:en:Ferdowsi</a> use this field in a special way.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-03-17T15:29:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-17T15:29:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-03-17T15:29:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-18T11:22:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Ferdowsi's 40 year life had coincided with a change in governing regime i.e. the substitution of two dynasties of Samanids and Ghaznavids in Iran but for most of poets, writers, etc. it's not difficult to conceive the period in which he or she has lived. There won't be even any necessity for searching the date of his or her publications. <a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">دوستدار ایران بزرگ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Doostdar-2013-03-18T11:22:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doostdar-2013-03-18T11:22:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doostdar-2013-03-18T11:22:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T16:09:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> This is a property of the author, not a property of the work. <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T16:09:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T16:09:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T16:09:00.000Z-Doostdar-2013-03-12T19:30:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="translated_into" data-mw-thread-id="h-translated_into-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-translated_into-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"></span>translated into<span data-mw-comment-end="h-translated_into-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z-translated_into"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Languages the work has been translated into</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>creative work</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>any language</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><<a href="/wiki/Q127149" title="Q127149">Lolita</a>> translated into <<a href="/wiki/Q7737" title="Q7737">Russian language</a>></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia article</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Inspired by a discussion in #wikimedia-office :) <a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z-translated_into" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z-translated_into"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z-translated_into"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-25T20:52:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Sorry, but this property would be the same as <a href="/wiki/Property:P407" title="Property:P407">P:P407</a> (language). P407 is btw itself more or less a duplicate (the other way around) of <a href="/wiki/Property:P364" title="Property:P364">P:P364</a> (original language). Qualifiers could be used here if necessary I think. --<a href="/wiki/User:Reaper35" title="User:Reaper35">#Reaper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reaper35" title="User talk:Reaper35">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Reaper35-2013-04-25T20:52:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-25T20:52:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reaper35-2013-04-25T20:52:00.000Z-Legoktm-2013-04-25T17:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T17:14:00.000Z-translated_into"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> If each edition (including translations) gets a statement on the wikidata page for the book then <a href="/wiki/Property:P407" title="Property:P407">P:P407</a> (language) will work as as a qualifier. We don't need this. The seem applies if each edition and translation is a seperate item.<a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T17:14:00.000Z-translated_into" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T17:14:00.000Z-translated_into"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-05-15T17:14:00.000Z-translated_into"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs" data-mw-thread-id="h-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z"><span id="Number_of_singles.2Falbums.2Flive_CDs.2FEPs.2FDVDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z"></span>Number of singles/albums/live CDs/EPs/DVDs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>All property used in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_artist_discography" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox artist discography">en:Template:Infobox artist discography</a> should be transformed in properties</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_artist_discography" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox artist discography">en:Template:Infobox artist discography</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Discography items</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Discography pages</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Yes</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Airon90-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2013-04-04T00:14:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, can be easily queried. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z-Number_of_singles/albums/live_CDs/EPs/DVDs"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span>I don't understand what "can be easily queried" means. Could you explain that? --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-06T21:55:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z"></span>Basically, it means we will be able to automatically get the number of items that are e.g. instances of <a href="/wiki/Q209939" title="Q209939">live album</a> (Q209939) and have a particular <a href="/wiki/Property:P175" title="Property:P175">performer</a> (P175). So, there is no need to hand-calculate it and add it ourselves. That would only be redundant and get out of date. I presume at some point such queries will be available for infoboxes, but I don't know the details. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-06T21:55:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-06T21:55:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-06T21:55:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-06T18:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-04-06T22:22:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Strong oppose</b> per Nightwish62 and Superm401. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-04-06T22:22:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-04-06T22:22:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-04-06T22:22:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span>Isn't possible to make it by hand now and then by bot or by database queries? --<small style="background:#f00;"><b>★ <a href="/wiki/User:Airon90" title="User:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">→ A</span></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Airon90" title="Special:Contributions/Airon90"><span style="color:#f00;background:#000;">ir</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Airon90" title="User talk:Airon90"><span style="color:#000;">on 90</span></a></b></small><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:59, 7 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-06T09:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-07T19:31:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z"></span>I don't think that's really in the spirit of Wikidata. We don't to put in a lot of info we know we'll have to take out when queries arrive. For now, the Wikipedias can keep doing what they're doing. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-07T19:31:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-07T19:31:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-07T19:31:00.000Z-Airon90-2013-04-07T10:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_planifié" data-mw-thread-id="h-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"><span id="Planned_road_length_.2F_Stra.C3.9Fenl.C3.A4nge_in_der_Planung_.2F_longueur_de_la_route_planifi.C3.A9"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span>Planned road length / Straßenlänge in der Planung / longueur de la route planifié<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>length of the planned part of the road / Länge des geplanten Teils der Straße</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Vorlage:Infobox_hochrangige_Stra%C3%9Fe" class="extiw" title="w:de:Vorlage:Infobox hochrangige Straße">w:de:Vorlage:Infobox hochrangige Straße</a> (<i>Planlänge</i>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>unit in kilometer per default --<a href="/wiki/User:Daniel749" title="User:Daniel749"><span style="color:#00b">Daniel749</span></a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel749" title="User talk:Daniel749">talk</a></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z-Planned_road_length_/_Straßenlänge_in_der_Planung_/_longueur_de_la_route_plani"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rschen7754-2013-02-25T07:13:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span>Can this be accurately sourced? --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Rschen7754" title="User:Rschen7754">Rs</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rschen7754" title="User talk:Rschen7754">chen</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rschen7754" title="Special:Contributions/Rschen7754">7754</a></b> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Rschen7754-2013-02-25T07:13:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rschen7754-2013-02-25T07:13:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rschen7754-2013-02-25T07:13:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-04-18T18:29:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span>:<span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Projects change often. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-04-18T18:29:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-04-18T18:29:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-04-18T18:29:00.000Z-Daniel749-2013-02-23T09:21:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> as this is not manageable for most situations. In those cases where it is feasible to have this data, it can be done under 'length' (see above proposals) with a qualifier 'status' or some such. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>)</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recorded_(at)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recorded_(at)-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"><span id="Recorded_.28at.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recorded_(at)-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span>Recorded (at)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recorded_(at)-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z-Recorded_(at)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P483"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P483" title="Property:P483">recorded at studio or venue</a> <small>(P483)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P483" title="Property talk:P483">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the studio where a song/album was recorded</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_single" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox single">en:template:Infobox single</a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_song" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox song">en:template:Infobox song</a> / <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_album" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox album">en:template:Infobox album</a><b>recorded</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>items about recordings (mostly songs and albums)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>the name of the studio, regardless if the studio has, or not, a WP article (most studios are not notable)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q169453" title="Q169453">On the Floor</a> <<i>recorded at</i>> Cove Studios</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>The list of studios can be found on the recording's booklet, or the artist's website. This information usually appears on the infobox of WP articles about the recording</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>This is needed. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z-Recorded_(at)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z-Recorded_(at)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z-Recorded_(at)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:19:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:19:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:19, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:19:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:19:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, but it would be nice if we could set "item" DataType in case there's a WP article (not only for this case). --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:25, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> agree. Item is better. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:25:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T17:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z"></span>I'd like to create items to all studios and change the type to item. Let me see if this can be done :) — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T17:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T17:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T17:59:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T16:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:46:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> with datatype "Item' at <a href="/wiki/Property:P483" title="Property:P483">Property:P483</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:46:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:46:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:46:00.000Z-Hahc21-2013-04-18T21:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="input_device_/_Eingabegerät" data-mw-thread-id="h-input_device_/_Eingabegerät-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"><span id="input_device_.2F_Eingabeger.C3.A4t"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-input_device_/_Eingabegerät-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span>input device / Eingabegerät<span data-mw-comment-end="h-input_device_/_Eingabegerät-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z-input_device_/_Eingabegerät"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P479"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P479" title="Property:P479">input device</a> <small>(P479)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P479" title="Property talk:P479">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>input method/device for video games (not software I would say), maybe video game consoles (and maybe also possible for other devices)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Computer-_und_Videospiel" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Computer- und Videospiel">de:Vorlage:Infobox Computer- und Videospiel</a> <b>Bedienung</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>video games, video game consoles</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>items which are subclass of <a href="/wiki/Q864114" title="Q864114">input device</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><Counter-Strike 1.6> input method <mouse>, <keyboard></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>could and maybe should be done by bots</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Reaper35" title="User:Reaper35">#Reaper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reaper35" title="User talk:Reaper35">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Everything should be clear I think. <a href="/wiki/User:Reaper35" title="User:Reaper35">#Reaper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reaper35" title="User talk:Reaper35">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z-input_device_/_Eingabegerät" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z-input_device_/_Eingabegerät"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z-input_device_/_Eingabegerät"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:41:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Mostly because many games have additional specific input devices, like the <i>Dance Dance Revolution</i> or <i>Kinect</i> games.— <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a><a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:41:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:41:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:41:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Toru10-2013-04-30T13:05:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Toru10" title="User:Toru10">Toru10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Toru10" title="User talk:Toru10">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Toru10-2013-04-30T13:05:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Toru10-2013-04-30T13:05:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Toru10-2013-04-30T13:05:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> as <a href="/wiki/Property:P479" title="Property:P479">Property:P479</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T06:59:00.000Z-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_...-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"><span id="Show.27s_creator_.2F_Idee_.2F_..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_...-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span>Show's creator / Idee / ...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_...-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..."></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The show's creator or creators.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_television" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox television">en:Template:Infobox television</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q183513" title="Q183513">Buffy the Vampire Slayer</a>: Joss Whedon</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I don't know exactly how to call the English label (TV = Show's creator; film = ?), but there should be a distinction between an artist like Leonardo da Vinci and the creator of a show's. (Right now both have the same property.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..."></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z-Show's_creator_/_Idee_/_..."></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:52:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Please also have a look at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Zelda" class="extiw" title="en:Princess Zelda">en:Princess Zelda</a>, "created by Shigeru Miyamoto". Should cases like this be included or is designer (<a href="/wiki/Property:P287" title="Property:P287">Property:P287</a>) suitable? --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:52:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 16 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:52:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:52:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> There already is <a href="/wiki/Property:P170" title="Property:P170">Property:P170</a>, creator. Creator is a tv-thing, or do you mean the author of <a href="/wiki/Property:P144" title="Property:P144">Property:P144</a>, or something like that?--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 26 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> "An original idea by" is a common phrase in many works, not just television programs. I prefer the "idea by". --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-26T00:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z"></span>But it's not a <a href="/wiki/Q1440873" title="Q1440873">showrunner</a>, isn't it?--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-18T18:51:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z"></span>Exactly, that's a different role. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-04-18T18:51:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-18T18:51:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-18T18:51:00.000Z-CennoxX-2013-03-28T13:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-05T18:47:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> Duplication. Already exists as <a href="/wiki/Property:P170" title="Property:P170">Property:P170</a>, which expressly includes creators of creative works. <a href="/wiki/User:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Shawn in Montreal">Shawn in Montreal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shawn_in_Montreal" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Shawn in Montreal">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-05T18:47:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-05T18:47:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shawn_in_Montreal-2013-04-05T18:47:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-11T00:17:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, clearly a duplicate of "<a href="/wiki/Property:P170" title="Property:P170">creator <small dir="ltr">(P170)</small></a>"; this proposal should be archived soon. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-11T00:17:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-11T00:17:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-11T00:17:00.000Z-Kolja21-2013-03-16T07:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank" data-mw-thread-id="h-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"><span id="ID_in_database_.2F_Prim.C3.A4rschl.C3.BCssel_in_Datenbank"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span>ID in database / Primärschlüssel in Datenbank<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>For referencing of items that have entries in databases.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>None</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Terms</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>No restrictions</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Currently <a href="/wiki/Q1485" title="Q1485">Lupus</a> has the MeSH ID instead of the MeSH code. So MeSH ID = D008180. I propose to move this meaning ID into the source and rename MeSH ID to MeSH code which would be C17.300.480 and C20.111.590 for Lupus and ID = D008180.</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>If it is used for a lot of different databases we can't apply any filters.</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Databases</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Data collection from databases would be possible</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote_oversat.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Strong oppose</b> since we have already many properties for the ids in different databases this is not necessary. As you say we can't use filters here which makes it much more difficult and complicated to find wrong values. Also it will be more difficult to add ids for users because they have to set the database in the qualifier section (you should not use sources for that). --<a href="/wiki/User:Pyfisch" title="User:Pyfisch">Pyfisch</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyfisch" title="User talk:Pyfisch">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z-ID_in_database_/_Primärschlüssel_in_Datenbank"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-12T15:33:00.000Z-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for the review Pyfisch. I am still a little confused on how to best handle this kind of things. Could you maybe review this proposal <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#MeSH_Code" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Term">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#MeSH_Code</a>. I would like to know your opinion on 1) the creation of a second property 2) if one of the two properties should be a qualifier for the other one. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-12T15:33:00.000Z-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-12T15:33:00.000Z-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-12T15:33:00.000Z-Pyfisch-2013-05-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="member_of_musical_group" data-mw-thread-id="h-member_of_musical_group-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-member_of_musical_group-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span>member of musical group<span data-mw-comment-end="h-member_of_musical_group-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z-member_of_musical_group"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Musical group they are a member of</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox musical artist">enwiki Infobox musical artist#associated_actsthough</a> this proposal is a little more precise than the infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Person</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Instances of <a href="/wiki/Q2088357" title="Q2088357">musical group</a> or musical group's subclasses.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2599" title="Q2599">Paul McCartney</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q1299" title="Q1299">The Beatles</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox musical artist">en:Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>We have <a href="/wiki/Property:P102" title="Property:P102">member of political party</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P54" title="Property:P54">member of sports team</a>, but not this as far as I can tell. This should also be bidirectional if/when that is supported. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z-member_of_musical_group" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:05, 4 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z-member_of_musical_group"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z-member_of_musical_group"></span> </p> <dl><dd><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span>WITHDRAWN</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-04T06:08:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Indeed. We have so many artists that are members of musical groups, and this will be useful. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-04T06:08:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-04T06:08:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-04T06:08:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-11T16:53:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, rename to "member of artistic group" to include other forms of art. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-04-11T16:53:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 11 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-11T16:53:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-04-11T16:53:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:29:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span>That seems like a good idea. Then we could use it for ballet, theatre troupes, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> -<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:29:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:29, 12 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:29:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-04-12T06:29:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-13T13:49:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b>, redundant with <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of</a> (P361). <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-13T13:49:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-13T13:49:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-13T13:49:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-19T00:46:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> per Emw. Also, if there were a "member of" property, then it should be used instead of creating "member of X" for every X, which is redundant and pointless. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Silver_hr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Silver hr (page does not exist)">Silver hr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Silver_hr" title="User talk:Silver hr">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Silver_hr-2013-04-19T00:46:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-19T00:46:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-19T00:46:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I don't see a redundancy with <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">Property:P361</a> (from it's discussion page I gather the proposed use in cases where no more specific property for a part-whole-relationship is applicable). However "Member of a (musical) group" should be considered a special case of the "affiliation" relation between persons and organizations and as such is qualified by a period of time and roles. The domain of useful roles is influenced by the kind of organization. Affiliation itself would allow statements like "Sam Cutler was Tour manager for The Grateful Death in 197[?])" (or think of other roles like "legal representative", agent, ...) and there probably would still be the need to determine a narrower set of roles expressing bandmembership proper (what about "supporting musicians" anyway: "Tim Bonhomme is (employed as) keyboarder <b>for</b> the Beach Boys since 1993" vs. "David Marks ws guitarrist and vocalist <b>of</b> the Beach Boys from 1962-1963 and in 1997"). So maybe it would be best to keep the musical roles and the membership roles ("bandleader", "lead guitarist", does one really need them) completely separated, but all of them as datatypes strongle need a qualifier for the interval(s) of time this connection was valid. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel">Gymel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gymel" title="User talk:Gymel">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z"></span>The problem with this property and properties like it is that it's essentially creating a domain-specific property where a generic one suffices. It sets a precedent for an explosion of "member of <i>X</i>", "type of <i>X</i>", etc. properties. The expressivity of the statements given above is fully achievable by using generic properties like 'part of' instead of domain-specific versions of those generic properties. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-19T07:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z"></span>However this generic one shouldn't be <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">Property:P361</a> for membership and roles (more general: relations between persons and organizations). My left thumb by transitivity is part of the matter in the universe but David Marks' thumb IMHO shouldn't be considered a member of the Beach Boys. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gymel" title="User:Gymel">Gymel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gymel" title="User talk:Gymel">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 23 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-20T20:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-24T04:31:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z"></span>The relation seems even broader than just a "part of" relation between persons and organizations. For example, Germany is a member of the EU, but Berlin is not a member of the EU. I think what your use case is searching for is a way to get the<i>highest-level</i> parts of some item. I think this use case would be better to support with one simple query technique involving <a href="/wiki/Property:P361" title="Property:P361">part of</a>, rather than a proliferation of "member of" properties that users would need to look up individually. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-24T04:31:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:31, 24 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-24T04:31:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-24T04:31:00.000Z-Gymel-2013-04-23T22:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-26T18:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Now that we have <a href="/wiki/Property:P463" title="Property:P463">member of</a>, this property would be really redundant. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Silver_hr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Silver hr (page does not exist)">Silver hr</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Silver_hr" title="User talk:Silver hr">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Silver_hr-2013-04-26T18:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-26T18:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Silver_hr-2013-04-26T18:38:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T21:00:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> per Silver hr. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T21:00:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:00, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T21:00:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-05-07T21:00:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T08:41:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> redundant to <a href="/wiki/Property:P463" title="Property:P463">member of</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T08:41:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T08:41:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T08:41:00.000Z-Superm401-2013-04-04T06:05:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="coolant" data-mw-thread-id="h-coolant-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-coolant-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span>coolant<span data-mw-comment-end="h-coolant-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-coolant"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P588"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P588" title="Property:P588">coolant</a> <small>(P588)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P588" title="Property talk:P588">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>substance used by the subject to dissipate excess thermal energy</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>engines, electronics, other items which require a cooling substance</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><b><a href="/wiki/Q1461826" title="Q1461826">Hispano-Suiza 8</a></b> <i>coolant</i> <b><a href="/wiki/Q283" title="Q283">water</a></b></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-coolant" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-coolant"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-coolant"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span>Basic piece of information for several engines, electronics, weapons, and other items which produce heat as a by-product.<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:00, 19 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-19T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Can also be used for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_metal_cooled_reactor" class="extiw" title="en:Liquid metal cooled reactor">en:Liquid_metal_cooled_reactor</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor" class="extiw" title="en:Molten salt reactor">en:Molten_salt_reactor</a>,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling" class="extiw" title="en:Thermoelectric cooling">en:Thermoelectric_cooling</a>. For <a href="/wiki/Q161238" title="Q161238">MRI</a> it would be, I think <a href="/wiki/Q1203476" title="Q1203476">liquid helium</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-19T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-19T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-19T08:26:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-26T08:57:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-05-26T08:57:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-26T08:57:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-05-26T08:57:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-19T08:00:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Point_group" data-mw-thread-id="h-Point_group-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Point_group-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span>Point group<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Point_group-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Point_group"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P589"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P589" title="Property:P589">point group</a> <small>(P589)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P589" title="Property talk:P589">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>There are 32 point groups that subdivide the crystal systems. They are derived from crystallographic symmetry operations. Every macroscopic crystal and mineral belongs to one of these point groups. The point group is equivalent to "crystal class".</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Mineral" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Mineral">de:Vorlage:Infobox_Mineral</a> = Kristallklasse=</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>32 point groups (have to be created)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2314" title="Q2314">sodium chloride</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q13359931" title="Q13359931">cubic-hexoctahedral</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q182264" title="Q182264">albite</a> =<a href="/wiki/Q13364174" title="Q13364174">triclinic-pinacoidal</a></td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>32 point groups</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Scientific literature</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Add point group to every crystal from scientific databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Point_group" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Point_group"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Point_group"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - The table of all the point groups can be seen here:<a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punktgruppe#Die_32_kristallographischen_Punktgruppen_.28Kristallklassen.29" class="extiw" title="de:Punktgruppe">link</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T10:53:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - Property proposed by the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force">Wikidata:Chemistry task force</a> and the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Mineralogy_task_force" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Mineralogy task force">Wikidata:Mineralogy task force</a>.</li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - I created <a href="/wiki/Q13359926" title="Q13359926">Q13359926</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q13359928" title="Q13359928">Q13359928</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q13359929" title="Q13359929">Q13359929</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q13359930" title="Q13359930">Q13359930</a> and <a href="/wiki/Q13359931" title="Q13359931">Q13359931</a> so one can look at an example. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T10:53:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T10:53:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T10:53:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-23T14:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Sbisolo" title="User:Sbisolo">Sbisolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sbisolo" title="User talk:Sbisolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Sbisolo-2013-05-23T14:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-23T14:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sbisolo-2013-05-23T14:44:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - We need more than 32 point groups: we need 'crystal system xy, undefined point group' as well. --<a href="/wiki/User:Chris.urs-o" title="User:Chris.urs-o">Chris.urs-o</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chris.urs-o" title="User talk:Chris.urs-o">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z"></span>Nõ, if it is unknown, we let empty. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Chris.urs-o-2013-05-24T09:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-27T19:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T08:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"><span id="Maximum_speed_.2F_H.C3.B6chstgeschwindigkeit_.2F_Vitesse_maximale"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span>Maximum speed / Höchstgeschwindigkeit / Vitesse maximale<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Maximum authorised speed (VNe)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>Number - default m/s.-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>: Default unit should be changed to km/h since this property will most often be used for powered aircraft which do not us m/s as a normal unit for speed. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Maximum_speed_/_Höchstgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_maximale"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> - speed is too generic. Things like "maximum" should be solved with qualifiers. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Speed_.2F_.2F_Vitesse_.2F_.2F_Velocit.C3.A0" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:14:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span>Generic: Speed</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:14:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:14:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:14:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"><span id="Stall_speed_.2F_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_.2F_Vitesse_de_d.C3.A9crochage"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"></span>Stall speed / Mindestgeschwindigkeit / Vitesse de décrochage<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The speed (VS) at which the plane will stall with normal load.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td>Number - default m/s.-invalid datatype (not in <a href="/wiki/Module:I18n/datatype" title="Module:I18n/datatype">Module:i18n/datatype</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Example 1</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 2</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr><tr><th>Example 3</th><td><span style="color: red;">MISSING</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> - speed is too generic. Things like "stall speed" should be solved with qualifiers. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z-Stall_speed_/_Mindestgeschwindigkeit_/_Vitesse_de_décrochage"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Speed_.2F_.2F_Vitesse_.2F_.2F_Velocit.C3.A0" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"></span>Generic: Speed</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T14:16:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-16T14:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="GNIS" data-mw-thread-id="h-GNIS-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-GNIS-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span>GNIS<span data-mw-comment-end="h-GNIS-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z-GNIS"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P590"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P590" title="Property:P590">GNIS Feature ID</a> <small>(P590)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P590" title="Property talk:P590">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Official identification Code for geographic objects in the US, see: Geographic Names Information System</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:geobox/type/settlement" class="extiw" title="en:template:geobox/type/settlement">en:template:geobox/type/settlement</a>: blank1_info.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>all kinds of geographic objects in the US</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q993523" title="Q993523">Lebanon <small>(Q993523)</small></a> = "0867976"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/gazetteer2010.html">http://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/gazetteer2010.html</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Phoebe" title="User:Phoebe">Phoebe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phoebe" title="User talk:Phoebe">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z-GNIS" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 25 February 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z-GNIS"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z-GNIS"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matthiasb-2013-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> but there are some difficulties. 1) Incorporated places do have two different GNIS codes, one for the populated place and another for the incorporated subject, the GNIS does have different codes for e.g. Hibbing, Minnesota and the City of Hibbing, Minnesota. The issue is that neither in the EN nor in the DE Wikipedia (refer to <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:Infobox_Ort_in_den_Vereinigten_Staaten" class="extiw" title="de:Vorlage:Infobox Ort in den Vereinigten Staaten">de:Vorlage:Infobox Ort in den Vereinigten Staaten</a>) one can be sure that in every case the "right" code was used; I even am not aware that this issue has been discussed before in the EN:WP. 2) GNIS also exists for the US Minor Outlying Areas and Puerto Rico. 3) There exist also GNIS codes in another databas for antarctic objects. At the moment I do not know wether only for those objects which have been named by the BGN or for any antarctic feature. --<a href="/wiki/User:Matthiasb" title="User:Matthiasb">Matthiasb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matthiasb" title="User talk:Matthiasb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Matthiasb-2013-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matthiasb-2013-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matthiasb-2013-03-07T13:24:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mrwojo-2013-03-26T16:40:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Datatype should be <u>String</u>. Source should be <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/index.html">http://geonames.usgs.gov/domestic/index.html</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b><a href="/wiki/User:Mrwojo" title="User:Mrwojo">Mrwojo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mrwojo" title="User talk:Mrwojo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mrwojo-2013-03-26T16:40:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 26 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mrwojo-2013-03-26T16:40:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mrwojo-2013-03-26T16:40:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aconcagua-2013-04-26T07:46:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Aconcagua" title="User:Aconcagua">aconcagua</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aconcagua" title="User talk:Aconcagua">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Aconcagua-2013-04-26T07:46:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:46, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aconcagua-2013-04-26T07:46:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aconcagua-2013-04-26T07:46:00.000Z-Phoebe-2013-02-25T20:00:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> But as Matthiasb said above, there's also a separate GNIS database for antarctic features with its own IDs. We probably need a separate property for those. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kam_Solusar" title="User:Kam Solusar">Kam Solusar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kam_Solusar" title="User talk:Kam Solusar">talk</a>)</li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="EC_Number" data-mw-thread-id="h-EC_Number-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-EC_Number-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z"></span>EC Number<span data-mw-comment-end="h-EC_Number-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P591"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P591" title="Property:P591">EC enzyme number</a> <small>(P591)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P591" title="Property talk:P591">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Enzyme Commission number (EC number) is a numerical classification scheme for enzymes, based on the chemical reactions they catalyze. As a system of enzyme nomenclature, every EC number is associated with a recommended name for the respective enzyme. (See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzyme_Commission_number" class="extiw" title="en:Enzyme Commission number">en:Enzyme Commission number</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = ECnumber</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q5526788" title="Q5526788">gastric lipase</a> = "3.1.1.3", <a href="/wiki/Q410754" title="Q410754">alcohol dehydrogenase</a> = "1.1.1.1",<a href="/wiki/Q409458" title="Q409458">creatine kinase</a> = "2.7.3.2"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>constrain formatting of EC codes d.d.d.d</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.chem.qmul.ac.uk/iubmb/enzyme/">http://www.chem.qmul.ac.uk/iubmb/enzyme/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes and online databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z-EC_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T08:57:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:24:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:24:00.000Z-EC_Number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:24:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:24:00.000Z-EC_Number"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ChEMBL" data-mw-thread-id="h-ChEMBL-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ChEMBL-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z"></span>ChEMBL<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ChEMBL-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P592"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P592" title="Property:P592">ChEMBL ID</a> <small>(P592)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P592" title="Property talk:P592">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>chemical database of bioactive molecules with drug-like properties (See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChEMBL" class="extiw" title="en:ChEMBL">en:ChEMBL</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = ChEMBL</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18216" title="Q18216">aspirin</a> = "CHEMBL25", <a href="/wiki/Q60235" title="Q60235">caffeine</a> = "CHEMBL113", <a href="/wiki/Q127900" title="Q127900">lactose</a> = "CHEMBL417016"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>constrain formatting</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes and online databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z-ChEMBL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:09, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T09:09:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:25:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:25:00.000Z-ChEMBL" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:25:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:25:00.000Z-ChEMBL"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IUPHAR_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-IUPHAR_ID-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IUPHAR_ID-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z"></span>IUPHAR ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IUPHAR_ID-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P595"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P595" title="Property:P595">Guide to Pharmacology Ligand ID</a> <small>(P595)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P595" title="Property talk:P595">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID in the IUPHAR database</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = IUPHAR</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q41576" title="Q41576">cocaine</a> = "2286", <a href="/wiki/Q81225" title="Q81225">morphine</a> = "1627", <a href="/wiki/Q167934" title="Q167934">serotonin</a> = "5"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>constrain formatting</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.iuphar-db.org">http://www.iuphar-db.org</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes and online databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:19:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:27:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:27:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:27, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:27:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:27:00.000Z-IUPHAR_ID"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Homologene_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Homologene_ID-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Homologene_ID-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"></span>Homologene ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Homologene_ID-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z-Homologene_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P593"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P593" title="Property:P593">HomoloGene ID</a> <small>(P593)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P593" title="Property talk:P593">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID in the Homologene database</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = Homologene</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q423107" title="Q423107">rhodopsin</a> = "68068", <a href="/wiki/Q223739" title="Q223739">leptin</a> = "193", <a href="/wiki/Q192191" title="Q192191">prolactin</a> = "732"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>constrain formatting</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/homologene">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/homologene</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes and online databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z-Homologene_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z-Homologene_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z-Homologene_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ensembl_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ensembl_ID-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ensembl_ID-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"></span>Ensembl ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ensembl_ID-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z-Ensembl_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P594"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P594" title="Property:P594">Ensembl gene ID</a> <small>(P594)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P594" title="Property talk:P594">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID in the Ensembl database (See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensembl" class="extiw" title="en:Ensembl">en:Ensembl</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = Hs_Ensembl (humans) Mm_Ensembl (mouse)</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>item</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>string plus item-qualifier that denotes the species</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q192642" title="Q192642">myoglobin</a> = "ENSG00000198125" & species = "human" + "ENSMUSG00000018893" & species = "mouse"<br/><a href="/wiki/Q413766" title="Q413766">fibronectin</a> = "ENSG00000115414" & species = "human" + "ENSMUSG00000026193" & species = "mouse"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>constrain formatting</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ensembl.org/index.html">http://www.ensembl.org/index.html</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes and online databases</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z-Ensembl_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z-Ensembl_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z-Ensembl_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:34:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:34:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:34:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T18:34:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-27T10:35:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_света" data-mw-thread-id="h-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"><span id="cardinal_direction_.2F_Himmelsrichtung_.2F_point_cardinal_.2F_.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D1.81.D0.B2.D0.B5.D1.82.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span>cardinal direction / Himmelsrichtung / point cardinal / сторона света<span data-mw-comment-end="h-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P596"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P596)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P596 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>qualifier: for which cardinal direction the statement applies.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>useful for <a href="/wiki/Property:P47" title="Property:P47">shares border with</a> (P47), maybe more.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>0-360 (<a href="/wiki/Q124274" title="Q124274">Azimuth</a> values)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q30" title="Q30">United States of America</a> <<a href="/wiki/Property:P47" title="Property:P47">shares border with</a>> <a href="/wiki/Q16" title="Q16">Canada</a> with qualifiers 0, 90</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%C5%A0lomo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Šlomo (page does not exist)">Šlomo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C5%A0lomo" title="User talk:Šlomo">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>Can be usefull for creating navbox for articles about geographical areas. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%C5%A0lomo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Šlomo (page does not exist)">Šlomo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C5%A0lomo" title="User talk:Šlomo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span>Seems useful, but unsure about the values. Why not allow further subdivisions (NNE, ENE, ESE etc.) for cases where further precision may be needed. Or even just use degrees to measure the direction? --<a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Šlomo-2013-04-26T01:08:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z"></span>Well, I chose the 8 directions that have their items to make the extraction of data in various languages easier. Also, having in mind <a href="/wiki/Property:P47" title="Property:P47">Property:P47</a>, the neighbouring countries, states, regions, counties a.s.o. won't usually be in an exact direction from each other. But I agree that a numeric value can be comparably useful and it has potencial of another use in situations where more precise values would be possible and needed.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%C5%A0lomo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Šlomo (page does not exist)">Šlomo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C5%A0lomo" title="User talk:Šlomo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Šlomo-2013-04-26T01:08:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:08, 26 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Šlomo-2013-04-26T01:08:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Šlomo-2013-04-26T01:08:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-04-25T21:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:01:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conny" title="User talk:Conny">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:01:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:01:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:01:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T16:49:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> It seems there's consensus that this property should not be restricted to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction" class="extiw" title="en:Cardinal direction">cardinal directions</a> -- i.e. north, east, south and west. So I think this property should renamed to something like "direction". Also, the documentation should clarify whether the values for this qualifier are based on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_north" class="extiw" title="en:True north">true north</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_north" class="extiw" title="en:Magnetic north">magnetic north</a>, and which <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinate_reference_system" class="extiw" title="en:Coordinate reference system">coordinate reference system</a> is used. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-28T16:49:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T16:49:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-28T16:49:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Having looked at the example (in the future, please give the actual labels so it's possible to read without going to each individual page), it's unclear to me why this property would use degrees 0-360 as values. Stating that "United States of America shares <0, 90 degrees> border with Canada" seems odd compared to "United States of America shares <north> border with Canada". So I think the original choice to use cardinal directions (and maybe intercardinal directions like NE, NNE) would be better than allowing degrees 0-360. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:03, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-04-25T19:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z"></span>Translating <0, 90 degrees> to <north and east> can be easily done by the software. I found the idea of azimuth values more useful, because it doesn't limit as for the future to use it more precise. If we use Item datatype, we are at this moment limited to cardinal and intercardinal directions - at least I didn't find items for NNE, NbE etc.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%C5%A0lomo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Šlomo (page does not exist)">Šlomo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%C5%A0lomo" title="User talk:Šlomo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z-Emw-2013-04-28T17:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-05-02T00:12:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span>Ah, OK, thanks for the clarification. I think that should be made clear in the proposal. It should also be made clear that this qualifier handles <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclave_and_exclave" class="extiw" title="en:Enclave and exclave">exclaves</a> of its subject. For example the United States shares a significant border on the east with Canada only in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska" class="extiw" title="en:Alaska">Alaska</a>, which is not contiguous with the rest of the United States. Would this qualifier handle<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclave_and_exclave" class="extiw" title="en:Enclave and exclave">enclaves</a> like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesotho" class="extiw" title="en:Lesotho">Lesotho</a>, which is an enclave of South Africa? If so, how? The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_enclaves_and_exclaves" class="extiw" title="en:List of enclaves and exclaves">list of enclaves and exclaves</a> provide more edge cases that might be worth considering. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-05-02T00:12:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-05-02T00:12:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-05-02T00:12:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T21:04:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> the 8 item idea. Everything else with more detail has to be done with geopolygons in my opinion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T21:04:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T21:04:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-20T21:04:00.000Z-Šlomo-2013-05-01T10:54:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> But with cardinial directions, per Emw and Tobias1984. I would allow 16 items (north, north-east, north-north-east), but that's enough. The full 360 degrees really aren't needed here. On the contrary, it would only pretend to have a precision that the claim in most cases can't have; e.g. is the US-Canadian Border at 89, 90 or 91 degrees from the US?--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:32, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z-cardinal_direction_/_Himmelsrichtung_/_point_cardinal_/_сторона_свет"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-23T09:46:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span>16 would be OK too. If anybody want to know the azimuth angle between New York and Rome then that anyway can be calculated from the GPS coordinates of both cities. Everything more complex than a GPS-point will have to wait until geo-lines and geo-polygons can be implemented. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-23T09:46:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-23T09:46:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-23T09:46:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span>Is everybody Ok with me creating this property with "item"-datatype and 16 possible inputs? The reference system would be geographic and not magnetic. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-23T09:32:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T21:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z"></span>I'm OK with the property being created, but I think its label should be changed. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_direction" class="extiw" title="en:Cardinal direction">Cardinal direction</a> refers to only north, south, east and west. If this properties allows more values than those, its label should not indicate it only allows those four values. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-06-02T21:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-06-02T21:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-06-02T21:26:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-02T16:52:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z"><span id="Taxon_publication_year_.28withdrawn.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z"></span><s>Taxon publication year</s> (withdrawn)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span>Description</b>: The year of the publication.</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: Date (Precision: Year)</li> <li><b>Allowed values</b>: 1753 - present year</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter example:</b> "1755" for <i><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prunus_avium" class="extiw" title="en:Prunus avium">Prunus avium</a></i></li> <li><b>Proposed by:</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T11:44:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span>Comments:</b></li></ul> <dl><dd>There is already a property covering that kind of data: <a href="/wiki/Property:P577" title="Property:P577">publication date <small dir="ltr">(P577)</small></a>. Just see if this can't be used. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z-Taxon_publication_year_(withdrawn)"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure. It seems too generic. The property description is "date when this work was published" (or "Date of the publication of the book"), but strictly speaking the taxon description (a work) is not the same as the taxon (which is what the item is about). But maybe it's close enough, I don't know. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-05-30T12:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:19:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z"></span>I just found <a href="/wiki/Property:P574" title="Property:P574">year of publication of scientific name for taxon <small dir="ltr">(P574)</small></a>, so I'm retracting this proposal. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:19:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:19:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:19:00.000Z-Soulkeeper-2013-05-30T14:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA" data-mw-thread-id="h-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"><span id="WTA_id_.2F_WTA-Kennung_.2F_identifiant_WTA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span>WTA id / WTA-Kennung / identifiant WTA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P597"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P597" title="Property:P597">WTA player ID</a> <small>(P597)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P597" title="Property talk:P597">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identifier to access the player's page on the WTA website</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>women tennis players</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q11459" title="Q11459">Serena Williams <small>(Q11459)</small></a> => "9044"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WTA" class="extiw" title="en:Template:WTA">en:Template:WTA</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>yes</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>The reason to create it is the same as for <a href="/wiki/Property:P536" title="Property:P536">ATP player ID <small dir="ltr">(P536)</small></a> (see old discussion <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/7#ATP_tennis_male_player_id_/_Identifiant_ATP_d'un_joueur_de_tennis" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/7">here</a>). The id is appended to the urlhttp://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/. It will make it possible for bots to update data automatically from the WTA website.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-WTA_id_/_WTA-Kennung_/_identifiant_WTA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> and identifiant can be transfered to Wikidata by my bot if you want. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hawk-Eye" title="User:Hawk-Eye">Hawk-Eye</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hawk-Eye" title="User talk:Hawk-Eye">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z"></span>This would be really great!--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:34:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Edoderoo" title="User:Edoderoo">Edoderoo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edoderoo" title="User talk:Edoderoo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:34:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:34:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:34:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:48:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:48:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:48:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:48:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="commands_/_/_commandement" data-mw-thread-id="h-commands_/_/_commandement"><span id="commands_.2F_.2F_commandement"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-commands_/_/_commandement"></span>commands / / commandement<span data-mw-comment-end="h-commands_/_/_commandement"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P598"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P598" title="Property:P598">commander of (DEPRECATED)</a> <small>(P598)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P598" title="Property talk:P598">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>for persons who are notable as commanding officers, the units they commanded</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"commands" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_military_person" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox military person">en:Template:Infobox military person</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q161715" title="Q161715">First Army (France) <small>(Q161715)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q2997796" title="Q2997796">French Far East Expeditionary Corps <small>(Q2997796)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"><span id="ITF_id_.2F_ITF-Kennung_.2F_identifiant_ITF"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span>ITF id / ITF-Kennung / identifiant ITF<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P599"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P599" title="Property:P599">ITF player ID before 2020 (archived)</a> <small>(P599)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P599" title="Property talk:P599">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>identifier to access the player's page on the ITF website</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>tennis players</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q11459" title="Q11459">Serena Williams <small>(Q11459)</small></a> => "20007765"; <a href="/wiki/Q5812" title="Q5812">Novak Djokovic <small>(Q5812)</small></a> => "100004087"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:ITF_female_profile" class="extiw" title="en:Template:ITF female profile">en:Template:ITF female profile</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:ITF_male_profile" class="extiw" title="en:Template:ITF male profile">en:Template:ITF male profile</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>yes</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Another id for tennis players, from the ITF, again to facilitate bot updates. The id is appended to the url <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=">http://www.itftennis.com/procircuit/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=</a> .--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-ITF_id_/_ITF-Kennung_/_identifiant_ITF"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-05-30T10:18:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> and identifiant can be transfered to Wikidata by my bot if you want. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hawk-Eye" title="User:Hawk-Eye">Hawk-Eye</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hawk-Eye" title="User talk:Hawk-Eye">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-1"></span>This would be really great!--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:15, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-31T07:15:00.000Z-Hawk-Eye-2013-05-30T13:49:00.000Z-1"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:32:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - analog to the ATP_id parameter we recently introduced. This IFT parameter leads to more player statistics, and is pretty essential. <a href="/wiki/User:Edoderoo" title="User:Edoderoo">Edoderoo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edoderoo" title="User talk:Edoderoo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:32:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:32:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edoderoo-2013-05-31T07:32:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:50:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:50:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:50:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:50:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-30T09:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MedlinePlus" data-mw-thread-id="h-MedlinePlus-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MedlinePlus-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span>MedlinePlus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MedlinePlus-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z-MedlinePlus"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P604"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P604" title="Property:P604">MedlinePlus ID</a> <small>(P604)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P604" title="Property talk:P604">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MedlinePlus" class="extiw" title="w:MedlinePlus">w:MedlinePlus</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_disease" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox disease">en:Template:Infobox disease</a> field <b>MedlinePlus</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term: diseases</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagas_disease" class="extiw" title="w:Chagas disease">w:Chagas disease</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q12152" title="Q12152">heart attack</a> = "155919"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://reference.medscape.com/">http://reference.medscape.com/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kizar" title="User:Kizar">Kizar</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Kizar" title="User:Kizar">Kizar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kizar" title="User talk:Kizar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z-MedlinePlus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z-MedlinePlus"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z-MedlinePlus"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-18T07:38:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - Why does <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_attack" class="extiw" title="en:Heart attack">en:Heart attack</a> give 3 values in the field eMedicine that redirect to 2 different pages? What is the meaning of that formatting, e.g. "emerg/327"? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-18T07:38:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:38, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-18T07:38:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-18T07:38:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span>Until maybe one or two years ago, all articles were categorized by specialty and urls were formatted in that way. The old urls will still redirect to the new articles, however some have been merged on emedicine and some articles now have several links to the same emedicine page. Maybe they can be updated with the help of a bot one day.--<a href="/wiki/User:Wouterstomp" title="User:Wouterstomp">Wouterstomp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wouterstomp" title="User talk:Wouterstomp">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T20:06:00.000Z-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z"></span>I am not sure I understand what your meaning, but we can create items that have no Wikipedia page. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T20:06:00.000Z-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T20:06:00.000Z-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-26T20:06:00.000Z-Wouterstomp-2013-05-26T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span>It may be a good idea to look at switching to pubmed health from medline plus. There are slightly better IMO even though both are similar.<a href="/wiki/User:Jmh649" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Jmh649"><span style="color:#0000f1"><b>Doc James</b></span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jmh649" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Jmh649">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jmh649" title="Special:Contributions/Jmh649">contribs</a> ·<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Jmh649" title="Special:EmailUser/Jmh649">email</a>) (if I write on your page reply on mine) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T22:24:00.000Z-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z"></span>I think we could do both. Do you want to open a request for pubmed? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T22:24:00.000Z-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T22:24:00.000Z-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T22:24:00.000Z-Jmh649-2013-06-01T21:20:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Wouterstomp" title="User:Wouterstomp">Wouterstomp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wouterstomp" title="User talk:Wouterstomp">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-05-18T00:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="battles/wars_/_/_conflits" data-mw-thread-id="h-battles/wars_/_/_conflits"><span id="battles.2Fwars_.2F_.2F_conflits"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-battles/wars_/_/_conflits"></span>battles/wars / / conflits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-battles/wars_/_/_conflits"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P607"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P607" title="Property:P607">conflict</a> <small>(P607)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P607" title="Property talk:P607">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>notable battles or wars in which the person participated</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"battles" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_military_person" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox military person">en:Template:Infobox military person</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q361" title="Q361">World War I <small>(Q361)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q362" title="Q362">World War II <small>(Q362)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q748780" title="Q748780">First Indochina War <small>(Q748780)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Exhibition_history" data-mw-thread-id="h-Exhibition_history-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Exhibition_history-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Exhibition history<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Exhibition_history-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P608"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P608" title="Property:P608">exhibition history</a> <small>(P608)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P608" title="Property talk:P608">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>exhibition history</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Artwork" class="extiw" title="commons:Template:Artwork">commons:Template:Artwork</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>museum objects</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q563727" title="Q563727">The Virgin and Child with Saint Anne <small>(Q563727)</small></a> -> La Sainte Anne, l'ultime chef-d'œuvre de Léonard de Vinci</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>provided in several good museum databases. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history"></span></td></tr><tr><th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history-1"></span>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Could be imported from Wikimedia commons ARTWORK template (for some)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Exhibition_history-1"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"></span>Notable enough for Wikidata ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li>if it is there, it's always notable, because the artwork is notable, so for example the artwork probably influenced another younger artist somewhere who saw it in an exhibition, etc. Though the Mona Lisa was "seen" in print by many artists before travel became easier to do, recording its whereabouts is definitely notable for other reasons (security issues, influences on modern artists or public opinion, art history publications, etc.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Jane023" title="User:Jane023">Jane023</a> (copied from <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Artworks_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Artworks task force/Properties">Wikidata:Artworks task force/Properties</a>)</li></ul></dd></dl> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> could possibly use a more general property but I cannot think of any (it is distinct from location)--<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-31T12:55:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)" data-mw-thread-id="h-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"><span id="NUTS_.28without_version.29_.2F_NUTS_.28with_version.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span>NUTS (without version) / NUTS (with version)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span id="P605"></span></p><div>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P605" title="Property:P605">Property:P605</a> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading5"><h5 id="without_version" data-mw-thread-id="h-without_version-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-without_version-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span>without version<span data-mw-comment-end="h-without_version-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></h5></div> <ul><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z-without_version"></span>Description</b>: Country subdivision code of the European Union</li> <li><b>Datatype</b>: <s>value</s> Monolingual string</li> <li><b>Domain</b>: Places (Countries. Administrative and non-administrative subdivisions of countries)</li> <li><b>Source</b>:</li> <li><b>Infobox parameter:</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox_German_state" class="extiw" title="en:Infobox German state">en:Infobox German state</a> (nuts) and many <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=infobox+nuts&fulltext=Search&ns10=1&redirs=1&profile=advanced">other templates</a></li> <li><b>Example value:</b> SE071</li> <li><b>Comments:</b> see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Nomenclature_of_Territorial_Units_for_Statistics" class="extiw" title="w:en:Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics">w:en:Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics</a></li></ul> <p>Code for different levels of territorial units. --<a href="/wiki/User:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Monsieurbecker">Monsieurbecker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Monsieurbecker">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z-without_version" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 12 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z-without_version"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z-without_version"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-13T00:10:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> This would be useful. - <a href="/wiki/User:Ssolbergj" title="User:Ssolbergj">Ssolbergj</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ssolbergj" title="User talk:Ssolbergj">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-13T00:10:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-13T00:10:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ssolbergj-2013-03-13T00:10:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mange01-2013-03-13T19:30:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Documentation above okay. (I changed datatype.) <a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mange01-2013-03-13T19:30:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 13 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mange01-2013-03-13T19:30:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mange01-2013-03-13T19:30:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-22T07:14:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> We probably should distinguish different versions of NUTS: NUTS 1995, NUTS 1999, NUTS 2003, NUTS 2006 and the current NUTS 2010 in order to facilitate the later automatic integration of statistic data. What do you think? --<a href="/wiki/User:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Monsieurbecker">Monsieurbecker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Monsieurbecker">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-22T07:14:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-22T07:14:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-22T07:14:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><strike><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-23T21:26:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> We should name every property as accurate as possible to prevent confusion. If there are really diffrent NUTS versions, we should a.) create multiple properties for every version b.) name it with the version. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-03-23T21:26:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a> <span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-23T21:26:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></strike><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-23T21:26:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, but please let us wait one or two weeks till qualifiers are available. Ok? What we also need is a new generic property 'version' (Data value: String). At moment there is only a property 'stable version' for software. However, I even think this property should be deleted/renamed to 'version' and use qualifiers for 'stable/unstable' status also. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> What about the three properties for the ISO 3166-1 country code (<a href="/wiki/Property:P297" title="Property:P297">Property:P297</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P298" title="Property:P298">Property:P298</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P299" title="Property:P299">Property:P299</a>)? Will they be merged to one property as soon as qualifiers are available? --<a href="/wiki/User:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Monsieurbecker">Monsieurbecker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Monsieurbecker" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Monsieurbecker">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:19:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-31T08:43:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z"></span>In my opinion they should, yeah. It's the same situation. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-03-31T08:43:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-31T08:43:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-31T08:43:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-31T06:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jdforrester-2013-04-13T11:15:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> once qualifiers are available. <a href="/wiki/User:Jdforrester" title="User:Jdforrester">James F.</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jdforrester" title="User talk:Jdforrester">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Jdforrester-2013-04-13T11:15:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jdforrester-2013-04-13T11:15:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jdforrester-2013-04-13T11:15:00.000Z-Monsieurbecker-2013-03-12T14:50:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading5"><h5 id="with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')" data-mw-thread-id="h-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"><span id="with_version_.28example_.27NUTS_2010.27.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"></span>with version (example 'NUTS 2010')<span data-mw-comment-end="h-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')-NUTS_(without_version)_/_NUTS_(with_version)-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"></span></h5></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, perhaps as a temporary solution until qualifiers can be used to differentiate sources, dates and versions of Nuts data from each other.<a href="/wiki/User:Mange01" title="User:Mange01">Mange01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mange01" title="User talk:Mange01">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:13:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>, qualifier will released within the next two weeks already. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:13:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:13:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-03-30T15:13:00.000Z-Mange01-2013-03-30T13:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b>: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P519&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P519 (page does not exist)">Property:P519</a> Without version, we'll use qualifieres for that. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a></s><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:41:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z"></span>Sorry, wrong datatype. Will be corrected soon. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:41:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:41:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:41:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-05-14T21:35:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stryn-2013-06-06T21:01:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> now at <a href="/wiki/Property:P605" title="Property:P605">Property:P605</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stryn" title="User:Stryn">Stryn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stryn" title="User talk:Stryn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Stryn-2013-06-06T21:01:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stryn-2013-06-06T21:01:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stryn-2013-06-06T21:01:00.000Z-with_version_(example_'NUTS_2010')"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Airplanes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span>Airplanes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span id="P606"></span></p><div>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b>Done</b></div><p> → <a href="/wiki/Property:P606" title="Property:P606">Property:P606</a> </p><p><i>Aircraft / Flugzeug / Avion</i> </p> <ul><li>See: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_aircraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox aircraft">en:Template:Infobox aircraft</a></li></ul> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> <i><b>The proposal discussion below was restored from <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term&diff=49755699&oldid=49754332">this change of Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term</a>.</b></i></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur" data-mw-thread-id="h-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"><span id="Glider_.28sailplane.29_.2F_Segelflugzeug_.2F_Planeur"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span>Glider (sailplane) / Segelflugzeug / Planeur<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-Airplanes-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <p>All gliders could meaningful be caracterized by (most of) the propertis listed below. It would be nice, if after stating, that a LS4 (Q544661) 'is a' <a href="/wiki/Q180173" title="Q180173">Glider (sailplane) (Q180173)</a> the property-list below pops up for filling in. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Construction_and_production" data-mw-thread-id="h-Construction_and_production-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Construction_and_production-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span>Construction and production<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Construction_and_production-Glider_(sailplane)_/_Segelflugzeug_/_Planeur-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <table border="1"> <tbody><tr><th><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-Construction_and_production"></span>Title</th><th>ID</th><th>Data type</th><th>Description</th><th>Example</th><th>Inverse</th></tr> <tr><td>role</td><td>?</td><td>Item</td><td>the role(s) the sailplane fills, eg. trainer, acrobatic, touring motor glider, motorglider</td><td><Glaser-Dirks DG-400> role <Motorglider></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>class</td><td>?</td><td>Item</td><td>the classes the glider type usually competes in, eg. club class, standard class, 15 m class, 18 m class, open class</td><td><Glaser-Dirks DG-400> class <Club class></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>national origin</td><td>?</td><td>Item</td><td>the country, where the type was constructed or first made</td><td><Glaser-Dirks DG-400> national origin <Germany></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>manufacturer</td><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P176" title="Property:P176">176</a></td><td>Item</td><td>organisation(s) procucing the type</td><td><Glaser-Dirks DG-400> manufacturer <DG Flugzeugbau></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>designer</td><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P287" title="Property:P287">287</a></td><td>Item</td><td>person(s) in charge of designing the type</td><td><Schleicher ASK 21> designer <Q90204></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>maiden flight</td><td><a href="/wiki/Property:P606" title="Property:P606">606</a></td><td>Invalid type: time</td><td>time for first (test-) flight, see maiden flight</td><td><Schleicher ASK 21> maiden flight <1979-12></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>number built</td><td>?</td><td>Invalid type: integer</td><td>number of airframes built</td><td><Schleicher ASK 21> number built <750></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>production period</td><td>?</td><td>Invalid type: time</td><td>the period in which the plane was produced</td><td><Schleicher ASK 21> production period <1979--></td><td>–</td></tr> <tr><td>variants</td><td>?</td><td>Item</td><td>the different variants of the type</td><td><Schleicher ASK 21> variants <ASK 21, ASK 21 Mi></td><td>–</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p><br/> </p> <dl><dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-Construction_and_production" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-Construction_and_production"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-Construction_and_production"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Maybe "type of aircraft" would be better than "role"? At least touring motor glider and motorglider should be "type of aircraft", but "trainer, acrobatic" is something else. I think, it is more what this aircraft is used for. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support 'role'</b>: 'Role' and 'type' can definitely be distinct properties. 'Role' generally indicates a purpose for the aircraft (i.e. what it does) while 'type' is often more a description of its design (i.e. what it is). These obviously can be hazy lines and overlap, but having the property named 'role' seems to give more indication of usage. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-14T12:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose new 'class' property</b>, since it's redundant with <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">Property:P31</a> and <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">Property:P279</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Emw" title="User:Emw">Emw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Emw" title="User talk:Emw">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z"></span>Why an opposition ? Here we have different targets for class. Instead of using the same property which will mix different types of association better use an accurate name for the property like plane class <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z-Emw-2013-03-17T23:28:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span>In my view this class is a class in an competition. Similar to "Flyweight" in boxing. --<a href="/wiki/User:Goldzahn" title="User:Goldzahn">Goldzahn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Goldzahn" title="User talk:Goldzahn">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 23 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z-Snipre-2013-03-22T20:26:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T01:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Perhaps change 'class' to 'competition class' to better indicate such intent? <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T01:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T01:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T01:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-23T10:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> 'national origin' and 'produced period' as proposed. 'National origin' should be changed to 'country of origin', as aircraft are categorized by country, not nation () and 'produced period' should be changed to 'production period' for better English readability. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> 'role', 'first flight', 'number built', and 'variants' as proposed. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-04-30T02:41:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> 'maiden flight' and 'production period' <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.54.11.4" title="Special:Contributions/87.54.11.4">87.54.11.4</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z-Goldzahn-2013-03-11T23:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Laddo-2016-01-16T14:24:00.000Z-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P606" title="Property:P606">Property:P606</a> was subsequently created for 'maiden flight'.</i> -- <i> <a href="/wiki/User:Laddo" title="User:Laddo">LaddΩ</a></i> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Laddo" title="User talk:Laddo"><i><small>chat </small></i>;)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Laddo-2016-01-16T14:24:00.000Z-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Laddo-2016-01-16T14:24:00.000Z-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Laddo-2016-01-16T14:24:00.000Z-87.54.11.4-2013-05-31T12:10:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z"><span id="Highest_point_.28en.29_.2F_.E5.9C.B0.E7.90.86.E6.9C.80.E9.AB.98.E9.BB.9E_.28zh.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z"></span>Highest point (en) / 地理最高點 (zh)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P610"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P610" title="Property:P610">highest point</a> <small>(P610)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P610" title="Property talk:P610">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>see example</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>place</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q148" title="Q148">Q148</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q513" title="Q513">Q513</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-GZWDer-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 29 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-05-29T13:23:00.000Z-Highest_point_(en)_/_地理最高點_(zh)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="religious_order_/_/_ordre_religieux" data-mw-thread-id="h-religious_order_/_/_ordre_religieux"><span id="religious_order_.2F_.2F_ordre_religieux"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-religious_order_/_/_ordre_religieux"></span>religious order / / ordre religieux<span data-mw-comment-end="h-religious_order_/_/_ordre_religieux"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P611"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P611" title="Property:P611">religious order</a> <small>(P611)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P611" title="Property talk:P611">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The order of monks or nuns which the monastery housed (also true for persons or organizations)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"order" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_monastery" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox monastery">en:Template:Infobox monastery</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person, place, organization</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q131132" title="Q131132">Benedictines <small>(Q131132)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="mother_house_/_/_abbaye_mère" data-mw-thread-id="h-mother_house_/_/_abbaye_mère"><span id="mother_house_.2F_.2F_abbaye_m.C3.A8re"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-mother_house_/_/_abbaye_mère"></span>mother house / / abbaye mère<span data-mw-comment-end="h-mother_house_/_/_abbaye_mère"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P612"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P612" title="Property:P612">mother house</a> <small>(P612)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P612" title="Property talk:P612">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Name of the mother house</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"mother" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_monastery" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox monastery">en:Template:Infobox monastery</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>place</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q306131" title="Q306131">Solesmes Abbey <small>(Q306131)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"><span id="Terminus_location_.28en.29_.2F_Ubicaci.C3.B3n_del_t.C3.A9rmino_.28es.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span>Terminus location (en) / Ubicación del término (es)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P609"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P609" title="Property:P609">terminus location</a> <small>(P609)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P609" title="Property talk:P609">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Location of the terminus</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>terminus_a, terminus_b of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_road" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox road">en:Template:Infobox road</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Any item that uses <a href="/wiki/Property:P559" title="Property:P559">terminus</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><<a href="/wiki/Q2174691" title="Q2174691">Oklahoma State Highway 325</a>> <i>terminus location</i> <<a href="/wiki/Q833668" title="Q833668">Boise City</a>> <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction</a></i> <<a href="/wiki/Q684" title="Q684">east</a>></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Infoboxes on enwp and other projects, maps, station directories, etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>—<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-1"></span>This property would be used with the <a href="/wiki/Property:P559" title="Property:P559">terminus</a> property (which notes the feature at which the item terminates at, like a railway station or intersecting road) to indicate the location of the termini. Initially, this was thought to be able to be handled by a qualifier to the terminus property. Unfortunately, road termini often have several different roads at the terminus intersection; see <a href="/wiki/Q2174691" title="Q2174691">Oklahoma State Highway 325</a> as an example, which ends at a traffic circle that five other highways pass through. As a result, the qualifier <i><a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">is in the administrative unit</a></i> <<a href="/wiki/Q833668" title="Q833668">Boise City</a>> has to be duplicated five times. This property would eliminate the duplication, resulting in a cleaner, more maintainable database. —<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)-1"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rschen7754-2013-05-30T09:38:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> to fix the problem. --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Rschen7754" title="User:Rschen7754">Rs</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rschen7754" title="User talk:Rschen7754">chen</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rschen7754" title="Special:Contributions/Rschen7754">7754</a></b> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Rschen7754-2013-05-30T09:38:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rschen7754-2013-05-30T09:38:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rschen7754-2013-05-30T09:38:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:49:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> per Rschen7754. <big><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TCN7JM" title="User talk:TCN7JM"><font color="blue" face="Garamond">T</font></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TCN7JM" title="Special:Contributions/TCN7JM"><font color="red" face="Garamond">C</font></a><a href="/wiki/User:TCN7JM" title="User:TCN7JM"><font color="gray" face="Garamond">N7</font><font color="black" face="Garamond">JM</font></a></big> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:49:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:49, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:49:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:49:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-05-30T09:28:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Legoktm-2013-06-08T20:52:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P609" title="Property:P609">Property:P609</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Legoktm" title="User:Legoktm">Legoktm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm" title="User talk:Legoktm">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Legoktm-2013-06-08T20:52:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 8 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Legoktm-2013-06-08T20:52:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Legoktm-2013-06-08T20:52:00.000Z-Terminus_location_(en)_/_Ubicación_del_término_(es)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="OS_grid_reference" data-mw-thread-id="h-OS_grid_reference-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-OS_grid_reference-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z"></span>OS grid reference<span data-mw-comment-end="h-OS_grid_reference-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P613"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P613" title="Property:P613">OS grid reference</a> <small>(P613)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P613" title="Property talk:P613">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>A grid location reference from the Ordnance Survey National Grid reference system used in Great Britain, explained here <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:British_national_grid_reference_system" class="extiw" title="w:en:British national grid reference system">Ordnance Survey National Grid</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>Is used in some infoboxes, for example: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Bodiam_Castle" class="extiw" title="w:en:Bodiam Castle">Bodiam Castle</a>.</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>places</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>places in Great Britain</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q639208" title="Q639208">Q639208</a> => TQ7855025649</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Ordnance Survey maps are the original sources</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-22T13:05:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:55:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - Can this be calculated from the GPS-coordinates? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:55:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:55:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T19:55:00.000Z-OS_grid_reference"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="archipelago_/_/_archipel" data-mw-thread-id="h-archipelago_/_/_archipel"><span id="archipelago_.2F_.2F_archipel"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-archipelago_/_/_archipel"></span>archipelago / / archipel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-archipelago_/_/_archipel"></span></h2></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P614"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P614&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P614 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P614)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P614&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P614 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>the name of the group of islands the island belongs to</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"archipelago" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_islands" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox islands">en:Template:Infobox islands</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>place</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3757" title="Q3757">Java <small>(Q3757)</small></a> --> <a href="/wiki/Q165481" title="Q165481">Greater Sunda Islands <small>(Q165481)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DiseasesDB" data-mw-thread-id="h-DiseasesDB-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DiseasesDB-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z"></span>DiseasesDB<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DiseasesDB-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#C00;"> </span> Not done</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The Diseases Database is a database that underlies a free website that provides information about the relationships between medical conditions, symptoms, and medications. (From <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_Database" class="extiw" title="en:Diseases Database">en:Diseases_Database</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>many languages: DiseasesDB</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q47912" title="Q47912">lung cancer</a> = "7616"</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>edit filter only numbers and number of digits</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.diseasesdatabase.com">http://www.diseasesdatabase.com</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>collect data from infoboxes</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z-DiseasesDB" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-31T21:10:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Wouterstomp" title="User:Wouterstomp">Wouterstomp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wouterstomp" title="User talk:Wouterstomp">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-DiseasesDB" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wouterstomp-2013-06-06T10:04:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span></dd></dl> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-09T19:49:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span>Duplicate of <a href="/wiki/Property:P557" title="Property:P557">DiseasesDB <small dir="ltr">(P557)</small></a></b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-09T19:49:00.000Z-DiseasesDB" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-09T19:49:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-09T19:49:00.000Z-DiseasesDB"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"><span id="Cultural_heritage_registration_code_.28CHRC.29_.2F_.2F_.2F.D8.B4.D9.85.D8.A7.D8.B1.DB.80_.D8.AB.D8.A8.D8.AA"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"></span>Cultural heritage registration code (CHRC) / / /شمارۀ ثبت<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doostdar-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P616"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P616&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P616 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P616)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P616&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P616 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Code for Ancient buildings and monuments, Ancient traditions, Astonishing human made creations in Iran enumerated by Iran Cultural Heritage, Handcrafts and Tourism Organization</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fa:%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88:%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%87_%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%AC%D8%A7%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AE%DB%8C_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86" class="extiw" title="w:fa:الگو:جعبه اطلاعات جای‌های تاریخی ایران">w:fa:الگو:جعبه_اطلاعات_جای‌های_تاریخی_ایران</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Ancient buildings and monuments, Ancient traditions, Astonishing human made creations in Iran</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Codes assigned by Iran Cultural Heritage, Handcrafts and Tourism Organization</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>e.g CHR code dedicated to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:_Karaftu" class="extiw" title="w:en: Karaftu">Cave of Karaftu</a> is 330.</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/fa:%D8%A7%D9%84%DA%AF%D9%88:%D8%AC%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%87_%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D8%AC%D8%A7%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C_%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%AE%DB%8C_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86" class="extiw" title="w:fa:الگو:جعبه اطلاعات جای‌های تاریخی ایران">w:fa:الگو:جعبه_اطلاعات_جای‌های_تاریخی_ایران</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">دوستدار ایران بزرگ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>Code for Iranian Ancient Monuments, castles, caves, bridges, etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Doostdar" title="User:Doostdar">دوستدار ایران بزرگ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doostdar" title="User talk:Doostdar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Doostdar-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doostdar-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doostdar-2013-04-16T19:10:00.000Z-Cultural_heritage_registration_code_(CHRC)_/_/_/شمارۀ_ثبت"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía" data-mw-thread-id="h-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="source_of_energy_.2F_Energiequelle_.2F_source_d.27.C3.A9nergie_.2F_fuente_de_energ.C3.ADa"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>source of energy / Energiequelle / source d'énergie / fuente de energía<span data-mw-comment-end="h-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P618"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P618" title="Property:P618">source of energy</a> <small>(P618)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P618" title="Property talk:P618">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>describes the source of energy an animated object (machine or animal) uses</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>couldn't find an infobox that included this</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>GND:term, machines, aircraft, vehicles, ships, animals, ...</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>type of linked items,allowed values (if limited)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Nuclear submarine = nuclear energy, nuclear reactor = nuclear energy, car = fuel (or diesel, ...), airplane = kerosine, satellite = solar energy, animals = food (or chemical energy?), hybrid car = batteries + fuel, sun = fusion energy, cellphone = Li-battery, power tools = electricity, windmill = wind, ...</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>relevant literature</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li>Interesting queries would be possible with this property. Needs a lot of feedback from different branches of science so it we can get the most out of it. For animals there should probably be a separate food chain property. <a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-10T14:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span>I think it would be most practical to treat machines and biological organisms separately. Biology is generally much more complex than mechanics. - <a href="/wiki/User:Soulkeeper" title="User:Soulkeeper">Soulkeeper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soulkeeper" title="User talk:Soulkeeper">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-10T14:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-10T14:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soulkeeper-2013-05-10T14:22:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Pictogram_voting_question.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_question.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Question</b> There are several applications for this as a generic energy source data point. Many more specific ones have been proposed, such as 'powerplant' for aircraft or similar ones for ships, etc. Is this intended to cover these, or is it only designed to be the more general basic source, and not the engine for the energy to be made available to the subject? i.e. should<b><a href="/wiki/Q29190" title="Q29190">Supermarine Spitfire</a></b> <i>source of energy</i> <b><a href="/wiki/Q1875633" title="Q1875633">aviation fuel</a></b>, or should it be more specific and be<b><a href="/wiki/Q29190" title="Q29190">Supermarine Spitfire</a></b> <i>source of energy</i> <b><a href="/wiki/Q1412885" title="Q1412885">Rolls-Royce Merlin</a></b>? I think this is good property and support it, but I do think that it will take some refining in practice to get the best out of it. <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z"></span>I was thinking that this property should only be for the fuel and not for the engine, taking your example. It would allow for such queries as "What are all the things that have wind as a source of energy" and return "Windmills, ...". A query for "aviation fuel" would return "Airplanes". For the individual airplanes we should probably be more specific as the Boeing Dreamliner for example also uses batteries as a source of power. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:19, 13 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-13T06:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-16T05:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z"></span>I am liking this property, and it makes sense to me to think of it as the form of energy that enters a system, vs. how that energy is translated into motive or other force. I am not sure about batteries however, as wouldn't that simply be a way of storing energy that has already entered the system or been created by the system, and be kind of like putting 'fat cells' as a source of energy for 'human'?<a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-16T05:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-16T05:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-16T05:33:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-13T07:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T14:09:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I like this is a generic term which would include solar panels for satellites, nuclear reactors for submarines etc. The misnamed "powerplant" is intended for types of engines? <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T14:09:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T14:09:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T14:09:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Power_sources_/_Источники_питания" data-mw-thread-id="h-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Power_sources_.2F_.D0.98.D1.81.D1.82.D0.BE.D1.87.D0.BD.D0.B8.D0.BA.D0.B8_.D0.BF.D0.B8.D1.82.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.B8.D1.8F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Power sources / Источники питания<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания-source_of_energy_/_Energiequelle_/_source_d'énergie_/_fuente_de_energía-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h3></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P618"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P618" title="Property:P618">source of energy</a> <small>(P618)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P618" title="Property talk:P618">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>источники питания</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат">ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат</a> <b>Источники питания</b> <ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spacecraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spacecraft">en:Template:Infobox spacecraft</a> <b>power</b> <b>batteries</b></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Космические аппараты</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q774583" title="Q774583">солнечная батарея</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q898377" title="Q898377">NiCd-аккумулятор</a> и т. д.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3400866" title="Q3400866">Космос-367</a>, источники питания: <a href="/wiki/Q80877" title="Q80877">ядерный реактор</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Карточки в статьях и т. д.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Power_sources_/_Источники_питания"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:06:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Oppose</b> - Too qualitative, better handled locally. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WDGraham&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WDGraham (page does not exist)">WDGraham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WDGraham" title="User talk:WDGraham">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:06:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:06:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:06:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - I think queries for satellites powered by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator" class="extiw" title="en:Radioisotope thermoelectric generator">RTGs</a> or nuclear reactors would be interesting. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T07:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - Having thought about it, this property could be used for submarines (diesel or nuclear power), cars (as in what kind of fuel, hybrids = Li-battery+fuel), airplanes (kerosine, boeing-dreamliner=Li-batteries and fuel), different toys (AA-battery, AAA-battery), cell phones (Li-battery). --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T07:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T07:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-06T07:08:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - I proposed a more general version of this property at<a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#source_of_energy_.2F_Energiequelle_.2F_source_d.27.C3.A9nergie_.2F_fuente_de_energ.C3.ADa" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/Term">Wikidata:Property_proposal/Term#source_of_energy_.2F_Energiequelle_.2F_source_d.27.C3.A9nergie_.2F_fuente_de_energ.C3.ADa</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 10 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-10T12:39:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-04-30T18:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="yard_number" data-mw-thread-id="h-yard_number-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-yard_number-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"></span>yard number<span data-mw-comment-end="h-yard_number-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z-yard_number"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P617"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P617" title="Property:P617">yard number</a> <small>(P617)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P617" title="Property talk:P617">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number of the ship assigned by its builder (shipyard)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#number" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Number</a> (not available yet)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Found in infoboxes. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z-yard_number" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z-yard_number"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z-yard_number"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Docu-2013-06-09T20:05:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> as string. Might not be strictly numeric. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"><span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0"> <font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font> </span></a> <small>at</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Docu-2013-06-09T20:05:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 9 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Docu-2013-06-09T20:05:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Docu-2013-06-09T20:05:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-28T00:24:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="supporting_actor/actress" data-mw-thread-id="h-supporting_actor/actress-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"><span id="supporting_actor.2Factress"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-supporting_actor/actress-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span>supporting actor/actress<span data-mw-comment-end="h-supporting_actor/actress-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z-supporting_actor/actress"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P482"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P482&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P482 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P482)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P482&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P482 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Supporting actor/actress played in film.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Persons</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>Will be useful to create list of notable people played in film but not fitting in <a href="/wiki/Property:P161" title="Property:P161">Property:P161</a>. Could be used for creating list of actors/actresses in text of article. --<a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z-supporting_actor/actress" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 24 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z-supporting_actor/actress"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z-supporting_actor/actress"></span> </p> <ul><li><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-27T14:47:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Supporting actors range from bit parts to secondary leads, it's not as clear as on <a href="/wiki/Property:P161" title="Property:P161">Property:P161</a> which of them should be named, only walk-on-roles, only "Over-Five"s, ...--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">C<small>ENNOX</small>X</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CennoxX-2013-03-27T14:47:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2013-03-27T14:47:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2013-03-27T14:47:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, with the definition by EugeneZelenko: actors not starring the film. --<a href="/wiki/User:NaBUru38" title="User:NaBUru38">NaBUru38</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NaBUru38" title="User talk:NaBUru38">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NaBUru38-2013-03-27T19:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Romero-2013-04-12T23:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Romero" title="User:Romero">Romero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Romero" title="User talk:Romero">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Romero-2013-04-12T23:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romero-2013-04-12T23:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romero-2013-04-12T23:53:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:41:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, in look of thinkings EugeneZelenko. <a href="/wiki/User:Conny" title="User:Conny">Conny</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Conny" title="User talk:Conny">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:41:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:41:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Conny-2013-04-28T14:41:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:34:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> as <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P482&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P482 (page does not exist)">Property:P482</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:34:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:34:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-05-03T16:34:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-03-24T14:16:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="as" data-mw-thread-id="h-as-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-as-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span>as<span data-mw-comment-end="h-as-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-as"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P453"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P453" title="Property:P453">character role</a> <small>(P453)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P453" title="Property talk:P453">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>qualifier for <a href="/wiki/Property:P161" title="Property:P161">Property:P161</a> to specify role played by actor/actress in film</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>film</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2278391" title="Q2278391">Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson</a> starring <a href="/wiki/Q362133" title="Q362133">Vasily Livanov</a> as <a href="/wiki/Q4653" title="Q4653">Sherlock Holmes</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-as" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-as"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-as"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Sure, better name for property is possible. --<a href="/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko" title="User:EugeneZelenko">EugeneZelenko</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko" title="User talk:EugeneZelenko">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span>I suggest "role" as the name of the qualifier. --<a href="/wiki/User:Wylve" title="User:Wylve">Wylve</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wylve" title="User talk:Wylve">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T00:55:00.000Z-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z"></span>I could suggest "character"? — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T00:55:00.000Z-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T00:55:00.000Z-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-19T00:55:00.000Z-Wylve-2013-04-16T16:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:22:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> such a property, but unsure which name it should have. 'as' could be used outside move/characters also, but I don't know if this is an advantage or disadvantage. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nightwish62" title="User:Nightwish62">Nightwish62</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nightwish62" title="User talk:Nightwish62">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:22:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:22:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nightwish62-2013-04-19T10:22:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>, but with another name (character/role). What if there's not a WP article for that character anyways? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 19 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-04-19T11:29:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-21T21:11:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-21T21:11:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-21T21:11:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-21T21:11:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Romero-2013-04-22T12:48:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Romero" title="User:Romero">Romero</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Romero" title="User talk:Romero">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Romero-2013-04-22T12:48:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Romero-2013-04-22T12:48:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Romero-2013-04-22T12:48:00.000Z-EugeneZelenko-2013-04-16T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-22T16:19:00.000Z-as"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P453" title="Property:P453">P453</a>, continue discussion about names for different languages <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P453" title="Property talk:P453">there</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-22T16:19:00.000Z-as" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-22T16:19:00.000Z-as"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-22T16:19:00.000Z-as"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Filmaffinity" data-mw-thread-id="h-Filmaffinity-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Filmaffinity-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span>Filmaffinity<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Filmaffinity-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z-Filmaffinity"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P480"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P480" title="Property:P480">FilmAffinity film ID</a> <small>(P480)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P480" title="Property talk:P480">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>The id of filmaffinity page.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantilla:Ficha_de_pel%C3%ADcula" class="extiw" title="es:Plantilla:Ficha de película">es:Plantilla:Ficha de película</a> <b>filmaffinity</b></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Films, actors, directors...</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>In eswiki it's numeric</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>799532 for the film <a href="/wiki/Q161678" title="Q161678">Q161678</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film799532.html">Filmaffinity</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>My bot can import this property from eswiki.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Kizar" title="User:Kizar">Kizar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kizar" title="User talk:Kizar">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>In eswiki is more common to use this page instead of IMDB. Filmaffinity is in english and spanish. Most articles in eswiki already have the id and only needs to be imported. <a href="/wiki/User:Kizar" title="User:Kizar">Kizar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kizar" title="User talk:Kizar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z-Filmaffinity" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 17 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z-Filmaffinity"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z-Filmaffinity"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T20:50:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span>The datatype can be numeric but as no operations or formats are to be applied can be a string.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kizar" title="User:Kizar">Kizar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kizar" title="User talk:Kizar">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kizar-2013-04-17T20:50:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T20:50:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kizar-2013-04-17T20:50:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:42:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:42:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:42:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:42:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:37:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:37:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:37:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-04-22T16:37:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:19:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Napoleon.tan" title="User:Napoleon.tan">Napoleon.tan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Napoleon.tan" title="User talk:Napoleon.tan">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:19:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 30 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:19:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Napoleon.tan-2013-04-30T12:19:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T07:08:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> as <a href="/wiki/Property:P480" title="Property:P480">Property:P480</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Hahc21"><font color="#333333"><b>ΛΧΣ</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hahc21" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Hahc21"><font color="#336699"><b><sup>21</sup></b></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T07:08:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:08, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T07:08:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hahc21-2013-05-02T07:08:00.000Z-Kizar-2013-04-17T14:40:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"><span id="Wine_AppDB-ID_.2F_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span>Wine AppDB-ID / Wine AppDB-Identifikationsnummer<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P600"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P600" title="Property:P600">Wine AppDB ID</a> <small>(P600)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P600" title="Property talk:P600">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Application-ID in the the AppDB of WineHQ</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Software (running on Windows)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>Application-Ids</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q324957" title="Q324957">IrfanView</a> -> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=163">163</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://appdb.winehq.org/">appdb.winehq.org</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Import by bots or gadgets <b>could</b> be done;</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Since <a href="/wiki/Property:P306" title="Property:P306">Property 306 (Operatingsystem)</a> only lists the operating systems the software runs native, but not if the program can be used with Wine and including this information directly to Wikidata wouldn't be a good idea for several reasons (depending on versions and setting, fast changing, good database existing, no need for competition), I would suggest to make it possible to connect Wikidata to this existing Database. <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z-Wine_AppDB-ID_/_Wine_AppDB-Identifikationsnummer"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:03:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I think we could add Wine as value for the platform property, I think this would be work and be ok. --<a href="/wiki/User:Reaper35" title="User:Reaper35">#Reaper</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reaper35" title="User talk:Reaper35">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:03:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:03:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reaper35-2013-04-21T14:03:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:07:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> main proposal (Wine AppDB-ID). <a href="/wiki/User:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Superm401">Superm401</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Superm401" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Superm401">Talk</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:07:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:07:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Superm401-2013-05-27T03:07:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-06-05T19:21:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> <a href="/wiki/Property:P600" title="Property:P600">Property:P600</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User:MichaelSchoenitzer">MichaelSchoenitzer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MichaelSchoenitzer" title="User talk:MichaelSchoenitzer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-06-05T19:21:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-06-05T19:21:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-06-05T19:21:00.000Z-MichaelSchoenitzer-2013-04-18T16:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки" data-mw-thread-id="h-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Landing_date_.2F_.D0.94.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B0_.D0.BF.D0.BE.D1.81.D0.B0.D0.B4.D0.BA.D0.B8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Landing date / Дата посадки<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P620"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P620" title="Property:P620">UTC date of spacecraft landing</a> <small>(P620)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P620" title="Property talk:P620">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>дата посадки, landing date</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат">ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция">ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция</a> <b>Дата посадки</b> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spacecraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spacecraft">en:Template:Infobox spacecraft</a> <b>return</b></li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>космические аппараты</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>любая дата, можно ограничить снизу 1957 годом</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q591584" title="Q591584">Союз ТМА-9</a> совершил посадку 21.04.2007 12:31:30 UTC</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>сайт NASA, карточки в статьях и т. д.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Landing_date_/_Дата_посадки"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:30:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> added return which is landing date and time. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:30:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:30:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:30:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:23:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:23:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:23:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:23:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-06-09T13:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-06-09T13:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 9 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-06-09T13:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-06-09T13:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска" data-mw-thread-id="h-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Launch_date_.2F_.D0.94.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B0_.D0.B7.D0.B0.D0.BF.D1.83.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Launch date / Дата запуска<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P619"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P619" title="Property:P619">UTC date of spacecraft launch</a> <small>(P619)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P619" title="Property talk:P619">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>дата запуска/launch date</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><br/> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат">ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция">ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция</a> <b>Запуск</b></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spacecraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spacecraft">en:Template:Infobox_spacecraft</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_space_mission" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox space mission">en:Template:Infobox space mission</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spaceflight" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spaceflight">en:Template:Infobox spaceflight</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_cargo_spacecraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox cargo spacecraft">en:Template:Infobox cargo spacecraft</a> "launch date"</li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>космические аппараты/ space craft</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>любая дата, можно ограничить снизу 1957 годом/ any date from 1957 onwards</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q165585" title="Q165585">Кассини-Гюйгенс</a> запущен 15 октября 1997 года, 16:01:00 UTC/ <a href="/wiki/Q165585" title="Q165585">Cassini−Huygens</a> launched 15 October 1997, 16:01:00 UTC</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>сайт NASA, launchlog, карточки в статьях, список запусков и т. д./ NASA's website, launchlog, articles etc</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Могу настроить бота на проверку значения свойства по какому-либо источнику, например, launchlog-у./I can set up a bot to get the value from any source eg launchlog</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Launch_date_/_Дата_запуска"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-25T08:36:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-04-25T08:36:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:36, 25 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-25T08:36:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-04-25T08:36:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Docu-2013-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I added the en-infobox fields above. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"><span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0"> <font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font> </span></a> <small>at</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Docu-2013-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Docu-2013-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Docu-2013-04-27T09:58:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-N2e-2013-04-27T12:45:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I changed "spacecrafts" to "spacecraft", the English plural (and singular) form of the word is "spacecraft". Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:N2e" title="User:N2e">N2e</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:N2e" title="User talk:N2e">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-N2e-2013-04-27T12:45:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-N2e-2013-04-27T12:45:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-N2e-2013-04-27T12:45:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:05:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> - How will this support entries where the exact day or time is not known - for example listing something that happened in October 1997 but on an unknown day, something which happened at an unknown time on 15 October 1997, or something that is listed as happening at 16:01 on that date, but the exact second is not known? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:WDGraham&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:WDGraham (page does not exist)">WDGraham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WDGraham" title="User talk:WDGraham">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:05:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:05:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WDGraham-2013-04-28T00:05:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:08:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I presume when time is implemented it will handle lack of precision. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:08:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:08:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:08:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:13:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:13:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:13, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:13:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:13:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T13:26:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Added English translation of the template <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T13:26:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T13:26:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-18T13:26:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты" data-mw-thread-id="h-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Decay_date_.2F_.D0.94.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B0_.D1.81.D1.85.D0.BE.D0.B4.D0.B0_.D1.81_.D0.BE.D1.80.D0.B1.D0.B8.D1.82.D1.8B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Decay date / Дата схода с орбиты<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P621"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P621" title="Property:P621">time of object orbit decay</a> <small>(P621)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P621" title="Property talk:P621">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ru: Дата схода с орбиты, en: orbital decay</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат">ru:Шаблон:Космический аппарат</a>, <a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция">ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция</a> <b>Сход_с_орбиты</b></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spacecraft" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spacecraft">en:Template:Infobox_spacecraft</a> <b>decay</b></li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>ru: космические аппараты, en: spacecraft</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>любая дата, можно ограничить снизу 1957 годом</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q591584" title="Q591584">Союз ТМА-9</a> сошёл с орбиты 21.04.2007 11:42 UTC</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>сайт NASA, launchlog, карточки в статьях, список запусков и т. д.</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Могу настроить бота на проверку значения свойства по какому-либо источнику, например, launchlog-у.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Decay_date_/_Дата_схода_с_орбиты"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:27:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>Added decay date which use on en: for when a craft re-enters. We need to be careful with sources. Launchlog from Jonathan's space page is a good source, but is it usable? NASA's NSDDC we generally don't think is accurate enough. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:27:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:27:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T12:27:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:10:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:22:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:22:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:22:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:22:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки" data-mw-thread-id="h-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Docking.2FUndocking_dates_.2F_.D0.94.D0.B0.D1.82.D1.8B_.D1.81.D1.82.D1.8B.D0.BA.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.BA.D0.B8.2F.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.81.D1.81.D1.82.D1.8B.D0.BA.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.BA.D0.B8"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Docking/Undocking dates / Даты стыковки/расстыковки<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P622"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P622" title="Property:P622">spacecraft docking/undocking date</a> <small>(P622)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P622" title="Property talk:P622">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>дата первой стыковки, дата первой расстыковки, дата второй стыковки, дата второй расстыковки и т. д., dates of first and second docking and undocking etc.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#time" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Point in time</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция">ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция</a> <b>Стыковка 1</b>, <b>Расстыковка 1</b>, и т. д. <ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_space_mission" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox space mission">en:Template:Infobox_space_mission</a> <b>Docking date</b> <b>Undocking date</b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_spaceflight" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox spaceflight">en:Template:Infobox_spaceflight</a> <b>docking_date</b> <b>undocking_date</b></li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>космические аппараты осуществлявшие стыковку/spacecraft that docked</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>любая дата, можно ограничить снизу 1957 годом/any date not before 1957</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q591584" title="Q591584">Союз ТМА-9</a>, дата первой стыковки 20 сентября 2006 5:08:42 UTC/ <a href="/wiki/Q591584" title="Q591584">Soyuz TMA-9</a> date of first docking 20 September 2006 5:08:42 UTC</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://space.kursknet.ru/cosmos/russian/machines/stma9.sht">space.kursknet.ru</a>, карточки в статьях и т. д.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Docking/Undocking_dates_/_Даты_стыковки/расстыковки"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T13:38:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>Added in en. <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T13:38:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T13:38:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-04-27T13:38:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:09:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Secretlondon" title="User:Secretlondon">Secretlondon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Secretlondon" title="User talk:Secretlondon">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:09:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:09:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Secretlondon-2013-05-06T10:09:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-18T13:20:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа" data-mw-thread-id="h-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"><span id="Crew_photo_.2F_.D0.A4.D0.BE.D1.82.D0.BE.D0.B3.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.84.D0.B8.D1.8F_.D1.87.D0.BB.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.B2_.D1.8D.D0.BA.D0.B8.D0.BF.D0.B0.D0.B6.D0.B0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span>Crew photo / Фотография членов экипажа<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P623"></span>Done: <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P623&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P623 (page does not exist)">no label</a> <small>(P623)</small> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P623&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property talk:P623 (page does not exist)">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>фотография членов экипажа</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#commonsMedia" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Commons media file</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><br/> <ul><li><ul><li><a href="https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F" class="extiw" title="ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция">ru:Шаблон:Космическая экспедиция</a> <b>Фотография</b></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_space_mission" class="extiw" title="en:Template:Infobox space mission">en:Template:Infobox_space_mission</a> "crew_photo"</li></ul></li></ul></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>пилотируемые космические аппараты</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q1231148" title="Q1231148">Союз ТМА-8</a>, фотография экипажа <a href="/wiki/File:Soyuz_TMA-8_crew.jpg" title="File:Soyuz TMA-8 crew.jpg">File:Soyuz TMA-8 crew.jpg</a></td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Карточки в статьях</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>— <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ivan_A._Krestinin&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ivan A. Krestinin (page does not exist)">Ivan A. Krestinin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ivan_A._Krestinin" title="User talk:Ivan A. Krestinin">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z-Crew_photo_/_Фотография_членов_экипажа"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Docu-2013-04-27T10:03:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I added the en-infobox field above. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"><span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0"> <font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font> </span></a> <small>at</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Docu-2013-04-27T10:03:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Docu-2013-04-27T10:03:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Docu-2013-04-27T10:03:00.000Z-Ivan_A._Krestinin-2013-04-01T19:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Guidance_system" data-mw-thread-id="h-Guidance_system-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Guidance_system-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z"></span>Guidance system<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Guidance_system-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z-Guidance_system"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P624"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P624" title="Property:P624">guidance system</a> <small>(P624)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P624" title="Property talk:P624">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Guidance system of a missile</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q235396" title="Q235396">AIM-9 Sidewinder <small>(Q235396)</small></a> => <a href="/wiki/Q1366032" title="Q1366032">infrared homing <small>(Q1366032)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Esquilo" title="User:Esquilo">Esquilo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Esquilo" title="User talk:Esquilo">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - looks like we need this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z-Guidance_system" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z-Guidance_system"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-05-22T12:56:00.000Z-Guidance_system"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"><span id="Express-3_code_.2F_.2F_.2F_.D0.9A.D0.BE.D0.B4_.D0.AD.D0.BA.D1.81.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.B5.D1.81.D1.81-3"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span><s>Express-3 code / / / Код Экспресс-3</s><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P296"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P296" title="Property:P296">station code</a> <small>(P296)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P296" title="Property talk:P296">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>station code used in post-USSR countries for passenger transportation</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>train stations</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2105249" title="Q2105249">Kiev Passenger Railway Station</a> has the Express-3 code 2200001</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>7 digits</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>External reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc">Ahonc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahonc" title="User talk:Ahonc">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Railway stations in post-USSR countries usually have two codes: UNL code (Russian <i>код ЕСР</i>) which used for cargo transportation and Express-3 code which used in pessenger transportation, e.g. in the tickets. For the UNL code we can use property <a href="/wiki/Property:P296" title="Property:P296">P296</a>, but for second code we need separate property.<a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc">Ahonc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahonc" title="User talk:Ahonc">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z-Express-3_code_/_/_/_Код_Экспресс-3"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T04:36:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Joshbaumgartner" title="User:Joshbaumgartner">Joshbaumgartner</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joshbaumgartner" title="User talk:Joshbaumgartner">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T04:36:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T04:36:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joshbaumgartner-2013-05-09T04:36:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>: I expect it's the same data than the UIC station code I suggested above. The 3 Express-3 code I have found, Kiev(2200001) Tashkent (2900001) and Ulan Bator (3100022), share the same pattern : 7 digits beginning with the 2-digit <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UIC_country_codes">UIC country code</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ske" title="User:Ske">Ske</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ske" title="User talk:Ske">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:12, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-02T10:51:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z"></span>OK, we may merge it with UIC code.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ahonc" title="User:Ahonc">Ahonc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ahonc" title="User talk:Ahonc">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z-Ske-2013-05-22T12:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-90.63.14.233-2013-09-23T21:09:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z"></span>No, it's NOT the same. UIC code : Kiev 2232030 ; Tashkent 2972661 and Ulan Bator 3105819. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.63.14.233" title="Special:Contributions/90.63.14.233">90.63.14.233</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-90.63.14.233-2013-09-23T21:09:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 23 September 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-90.63.14.233-2013-09-23T21:09:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-90.63.14.233-2013-09-23T21:09:00.000Z-Ahonc-2013-05-22T13:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IUCN-ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-IUCN-ID-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IUCN-ID-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span>IUCN-ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IUCN-ID-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z-IUCN-ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P627"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P627" title="Property:P627">IUCN taxon ID</a> <small>(P627)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P627" title="Property talk:P627">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Id of a taxon listed by <a href="/wiki/Q32059" title="Q32059">IUCN Red List</a></td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Source of <a href="/wiki/Property:P141" title="Property:P141">IUCN conservation status <small dir="ltr">(P141)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>Id of <i><a href="/wiki/Q310639" title="Q310639">Acharagma aguirreanum</a></i> is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/40966/0">40966</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Add <code>'http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/$1/0'</code> to <a href="/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js" title="MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js">Gadget-AuthorityControl.js</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Provides a direct link to <a href="/wiki/Q32059" title="Q32059">IUCN Red List</a> whichs maintains the <a href="/wiki/Property:P141" title="Property:P141">IUCN conservation status <small dir="ltr">(P141)</small></a>. Should be used as source. --<a href="/wiki/User:Succu" title="User:Succu">Succu</a>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Succu" title="User talk:Succu">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z-IUCN-ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z-IUCN-ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z-IUCN-ID"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T20:23:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_strong_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Strong support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T20:23:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 1 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T20:23:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-01T20:23:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ערן-2013-06-11T20:09:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9F" title="User:ערן">Eran</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%9F" title="User talk:ערן">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-ערן-2013-06-11T20:09:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ערן-2013-06-11T20:09:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ערן-2013-06-11T20:09:00.000Z-Succu-2013-06-01T18:25:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="E_number_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-E_number_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"><span id="E_number_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-E_number_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span>E number (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-E_number_(en)-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-E_number_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P628"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P628" title="Property:P628">E number</a> <small>(P628)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P628" title="Property talk:P628">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>E numbers are codes for chemicals which can be used as food additives for use within the European Union (See:<a href="/wiki/Q207810" title="Q207810">E number <small>(Q207810)</small></a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>See: <a href="/wiki/Q207810" title="Q207810">E number <small>(Q207810)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>see <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Chemistry task force/Properties">Wikidata:Chemistry_task_force/Properties</a>. <a href="/wiki/Q312266" title="Q312266">curcumin <small>(Q312266)</small></a> = "E100"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:295:0001:0177:DE:PDF">http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:295:0001:0177:DE:PDF</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:GZWDer" title="User:GZWDer">GZWDer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GZWDer" title="User talk:GZWDer">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-E_number_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-E_number_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z-E_number_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T07:47:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T07:47:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T07:47:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-07T07:47:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:01:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> it's an official identifier in food industry. <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:01:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:01:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-06-07T12:01:00.000Z-GZWDer-2013-06-07T03:07:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT" data-mw-thread-id="h-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"><span id="ISTAT_code_.2F_codice_ISTAT"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span>ISTAT code / codice ISTAT<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P635"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P635" title="Property:P635">ISTAT ID</a> <small>(P635)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P635" title="Property talk:P635">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>number sequence for the identification of municipalities in Italy</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>"Codice statistico" in <a href="https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Divisione_amministrativa" class="extiw" title="it:template:Divisione amministrativa">it:template:Divisione amministrativa</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>place</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q220" title="Q220">Roma</a>: 058091, <a href="/wiki/Q490" title="Q490">Milano</a>: 015146</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>(\d){6}</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.istat.it/it/archivio/6789">http://www.istat.it/it/archivio/6789</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Beta16" title="User:Beta16">β<sub>16</sub></a> - (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beta16" title="User talk:Beta16">talk</a>)</td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p>Official unique code for municipalities in Italy, assigned by national statistic institute. Same as INSEE (<a href="/wiki/Property:P374" title="Property:P374">Property:P374</a>) for France. <a href="/wiki/User:Beta16" title="User:Beta16">β<sub>16</sub></a> - (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beta16" title="User talk:Beta16">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Could we use a generic "statistic code" for INSEE, ISTAT, etc.? --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Ricordisamoa's proposal, adding a qualifier like "statistic institute" to specify the one that set the code. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Viscontino&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Viscontino (page does not exist)">Viscontino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Viscontino" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Viscontino">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z-Ricordisamoa-2013-05-04T11:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Beta16-2013-05-05T22:57:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Also <a href="/wiki/Property:P382" title="Property:P382">Property:P382</a> (for Netherlands) and <a href="/wiki/Property:P442" title="Property:P442">Property:P442</a> (for China) are been created. --<a href="/wiki/User:Beta16" title="User:Beta16">β<sub>16</sub></a>- (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beta16" title="User talk:Beta16">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Beta16-2013-05-05T22:57:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Beta16-2013-05-05T22:57:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Beta16-2013-05-05T22:57:00.000Z-Viscontino-2013-05-05T13:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Yiyi" title="User:Yiyi"><span style="color:blue"><b><span style="font-family:cursive;font-size:14px">Yiyi</span></b></span></a> <span style="cursor:wait"><b>....</b></span> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yiyi" title="User talk:Yiyi">talk!</a>)</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-19T22:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CristianCantoro-2013-05-27T12:54:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> -- <a href="/wiki/User:CristianCantoro" title="User:CristianCantoro">CristianCantoro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CristianCantoro" title="User talk:CristianCantoro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-CristianCantoro-2013-05-27T12:54:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CristianCantoro-2013-05-27T12:54:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CristianCantoro-2013-05-27T12:54:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-05-27T09:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-27T13:08:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I'm agree to create a general "statistic code" property (with a qualifier property to distinguish between institutions), <b>but</b> until its discussion and approval, it is better to create this property to import the ISTAT code of municipality. --<a href="/wiki/User:Paperoastro" title="User:Paperoastro">Paperoastro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paperoastro" title="User talk:Paperoastro">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Paperoastro-2013-05-27T13:08:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-27T13:08:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paperoastro-2013-05-27T13:08:00.000Z-Beta16-2013-05-02T21:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T09:19:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T09:19:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T09:19:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T09:19:00.000Z-ISTAT_code_/_codice_ISTAT"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Route_of_administration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Route_of_administration-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Route_of_administration-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z"></span>Route of administration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Route_of_administration-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P636"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P636" title="Property:P636">route of administration</a> <small>(P636)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P636" title="Property talk:P636">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q621636" title="Q621636">route of administration <small>(Q621636)</small></a> A route of administration in pharmacology and toxicology is the path by which a drug, fluid, poison, or other substance is taken into the body.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q6436840" title="Q6436840">Template:Infobox medical condition (old) <small>(Q6436840)</small></a> routes_of_administration</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q18216" title="Q18216">aspirin <small>(Q18216)</small></a> = "oral", <a href="/wiki/Q210402" title="Q210402">diazepam <small>(Q210402)</small></a> = "oral" & "<a href="/wiki/Q432083" title="Q432083">intramuscular injection <small>(Q432083)</small></a>" & "<a href="/wiki/Q640448" title="Q640448">intravenous infusion and defusion <small>(Q640448)</small></a>" & <a href="/wiki/Q180799" title="Q180799">suppository <small>(Q180799)</small></a></td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>Constraint one of a list of items.</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td>Scientific literature</td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Gather data from infobox</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z-Route_of_administration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 4 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-04T10:17:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gambo7" title="User:Gambo7">Gambo7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gambo7" title="User talk:Gambo7">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z-Route_of_administration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 16 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Peter.C-2013-06-17T01:21:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Peter.C" title="User:Peter.C">Peter.C</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Peter.C" title="User talk:Peter.C">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Peter.C-2013-06-17T01:21:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Peter.C-2013-06-17T01:21:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Peter.C-2013-06-17T01:21:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Snipre-2013-06-17T13:26:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> The chemicals can used this property too for the definition of the letal dose <a href="/wiki/User:Snipre" title="User:Snipre">Snipre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Snipre" title="User talk:Snipre">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Snipre-2013-06-17T13:26:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Snipre-2013-06-17T13:26:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Snipre-2013-06-17T13:26:00.000Z-Gambo7-2013-06-16T20:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Route_of_administration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T14:01:00.000Z-Route_of_administration"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Protein_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-Protein_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Protein_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"></span>Protein ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Protein_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P637"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P637" title="Property:P637">RefSeq protein ID</a> <small>(P637)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P637" title="Property talk:P637">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Specifies the Protein ID</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = Hs_RefseqProtein</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q414043" title="Q414043">Reelin</a> = NP_005036 (RefSeq value)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>Digits + Characters + underscore</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Fill gene wikidata items with appropriate value</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Chinmay26" title="User:Chinmay26">Chinmay26</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinmay26" title="User talk:Chinmay26">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-Protein_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span>Discussion - Using "RefSeq" as qualifier, we can map to Hs_RefseqProtein</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Su" title="User talk:Andrew Su">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Protein_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T18:57:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Use <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P89 (page does not exist)">P89 <small dir="ltr">(P89)</small></a> as a qualifier similar to Ensembl ID: <a href="/wiki/Q192642" title="Q192642">Q192642</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T18:57:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 13 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T18:57:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T18:57:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:18:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> - needed for GSoC. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:18:00.000Z-Protein_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:18:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:18:00.000Z-Protein_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PDB_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-PDB_ID-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PDB_ID-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z"></span>PDB ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PDB_ID-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P638"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P638" title="Property:P638">PDB structure ID</a> <small>(P638)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P638" title="Property talk:P638">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Protein Data Bank (PDB) contains 3D structures of proteins and nucleic acids. This property will provide access to such structures and associated images for the corresponding biological molecule.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = PDB ID</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q414043" title="Q414043">Reelin</a> = "2ddu" & "2e26"</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/home/home.do">http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/home/home.do</a> , <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbsum/">http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbsum/</a> , <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.pdbe.org/">http://www.pdbe.org/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Collect data from MyGene.info and fill gene wiki items with this data</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Chinmay26" title="User:Chinmay26">Chinmay26</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinmay26" title="User talk:Chinmay26">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z-PDB_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T15:38:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <div class="constraint" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2262252589">.mw-parser-output .constraint{display:flex;background:var(--background-color-base,#fff);border:2px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1);padding:3px;column-gap:2px;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .constraint.mandatory{background:var(--background-color-success-subtle,#dff2eb)}.mw-parser-output .constraint.ltr{direction:ltr}.mw-parser-output .constraint.rtl{direction:rtl}.mw-parser-output .constraint>div{margin:2px}.mw-parser-output .constraint-icon{padding:0 .5em 0 .3em;flex-shrink:0}.mw-parser-output .constraint code{white-space:pre-wrap;word-break:break-all}</style> <div class="constraint-icon"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Template:Constraint:Format" title="Template:Constraint:Format"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Pictogram_voting_regex.svg/40px-Pictogram_voting_regex.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Pictogram_voting_regex.svg/60px-Pictogram_voting_regex.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Pictogram_voting_regex.svg/80px-Pictogram_voting_regex.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="249" data-file-height="249"/></a></span></div> <div><div lang="" dir="auto"><b>Format</b>: value must be formatted using this pattern (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_Compatible_Regular_Expressions" class="extiw" title="en:Perl Compatible Regular Expressions">PCRE syntax</a>).<br/><span style="font-family:monospace">[0-9][a-zA-Z0-9]{3}</span></div><small>Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Property_constraints_portal#Constraint_parameters" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Property constraints portal">Exceptions can be specified</a> using <a href="/wiki/Property:P2303" title="Property:P2303">exception to constraint <small dir="ltr">(P2303)</small></a>. </small><br/> <small>List of violations of this constraint: <bdi lang="en"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/Property_proposal/Archive/8&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/Property proposal/Archive/8 (page does not exist)">Database reports/Constraint violations/Property proposal/Archive/8#Format</a></bdi></small></div> </div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - important part of the protein infobox. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z-PDB_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - though in cases where multiple PDB IDs exist, I think they should be two instances of the same property (rather than concatenating them into a single field.) <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Su" title="User talk:Andrew Su">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-11T10:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> I changed the proposal so that the two strings are separate. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-11T10:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-11T10:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-11T10:19:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Boghog-2013-06-15T16:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> – The filter however should be made more specific (a four letter code composed of a digit followed by three characters that can be either digits or letters, regex: "[0-9][a-zA-Z0-9]{3}"). <a href="/wiki/User:Boghog" title="User:Boghog">Boghog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Boghog" title="User talk:Boghog">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Boghog-2013-06-15T16:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:48, 15 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Boghog-2013-06-15T16:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Boghog-2013-06-15T16:48:00.000Z-Tobias1984-2013-06-10T15:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:28:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Needed for GSoC. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:28:00.000Z-PDB_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:28:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:28:00.000Z-PDB_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RNA_ID" data-mw-thread-id="h-RNA_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RNA_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"></span>RNA ID<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RNA_ID-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P639"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P639" title="Property:P639">RefSeq RNA ID</a> <small>(P639)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P639" title="Property talk:P639">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Specifies the RNA ID</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box" class="extiw" title="en:Template:GNF Protein box">en:Template:GNF_Protein_box</a> = Hs_RefseqmRNA</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>term</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q414043" title="Q414043">Reelin</a> = NM_005045 (RefSeq value)</td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>Digits + Characters + underscore</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>Fill gene wikidata items with appropriate value</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Chinmay26" title="User:Chinmay26">Chinmay26</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chinmay26" title="User talk:Chinmay26">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-RNA_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chinmay26-2013-06-10T20:57:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span>Discussion - Using "RefSeq" as quaifier, we can map it to Hs_RefseqmRNA.</dt> <dd> <ul><li><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> <a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Su" title="User:Andrew Su">Andrew Su</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Su" title="User talk:Andrew Su">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-RNA_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T19:04:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Use <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P89&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P89 (page does not exist)">P89 <small dir="ltr">(P89)</small></a> as a qualifier similar to Ensembl ID: <a href="/wiki/Q192642" title="Q192642">Q192642</a> for Human and Mouse. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T19:04:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T19:04:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-13T19:04:00.000Z-Andrew_Su-2013-06-10T21:47:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:46:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> needed for GSoC. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:46:00.000Z-RNA_ID" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:46:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-18T09:46:00.000Z-RNA_ID"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"><span id="L.C3.A9onore_ID_.28en.29_.2F_cote_base_L.C3.A9onore_.28fr.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span>Léonore ID (en) / cote base Léonore (fr)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P640"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P640" title="Property:P640">Léonore ID</a> <small>(P640)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P640" title="Property talk:P640">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>ID of a person in the <a href="/wiki/Q2886420" title="Q2886420">Léonore database <small>(Q2886420)</small></a> (members of the French Legion of Honour)</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Base_L%C3%A9onore" class="extiw" title="fr:template:Base Léonore">fr:template:Base Léonore</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q3124401" title="Q3124401">Gérard de Cathelineau <small>(Q3124401)</small></a> => 19800035/435/58145 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/leonore_fr?ACTION=CHERCHER&FIELD_1=COTE&VALUE_1=19800035/435/58145">link</a>)</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/leonore/recherche.htm">http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/leonore/recherche.htm</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z-Léonore_ID_(en)_/_cote_base_Léonore_(fr)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyb-2013-06-14T11:37:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> It's a useful database with a lot of information (date of birth, date of death, date of Legion of Honour, the resume of a person...) <a href="/wiki/User:Pyb" title="User:Pyb">Pyb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyb" title="User talk:Pyb">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Pyb-2013-06-14T11:37:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 14 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyb-2013-06-14T11:37:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyb-2013-06-14T11:37:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T02:33:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T02:33:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T02:33:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T02:33:00.000Z-Ayack-2013-06-13T16:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sport" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sport-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sport-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span>Sport<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sport-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z-Sport"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P641"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P641" title="Property:P641">sport</a> <small>(P641)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P641" title="Property talk:P641">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>sport in which the entity participates or belongs to</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:Infobox_sports_league" class="extiw" title="en:template:Infobox sports league">en:template:Infobox sports league</a> sport</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>person, organization</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>sports</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>National Basketball Association <a href="/wiki/Q155223" title="Q155223">Q155223</a> => <a href="/wiki/Q5372" title="Q5372">Q5372</a> Basketball</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z-Sport" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z-Sport"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z-Sport"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span>I think this can be done by more general property, like <a href="/wiki/Property:P425" title="Property:P425">field of this occupation <small dir="ltr">(P425)</small></a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infovarius" title="User talk:Infovarius">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z"></span>How does that fit with organizations such as the National Basketball Association? <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:58, 18 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-18T19:34:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z"></span>National Basketball Association <a href="/wiki/Property:P425" title="Property:P425">field of this occupation <small dir="ltr">(P425)</small></a> basketball. <a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infovarius" title="User talk:Infovarius">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T19:58:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z"></span>P425 is meant to work with terms, not people or organizations. -- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docu" title="User talk:Docu"><span style="font-size:90%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0;margin:0"> <font color="#990000">D</font><font color="#339966">o</font><font color="#006699">c</font><font color="#339966">u</font> </span></a> <small>at</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z-Infovarius-2013-05-19T10:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z"></span>For sportspeople, we have <a href="/wiki/Property:P106" title="Property:P106">occupation <small dir="ltr">(P106)</small></a>. For organizations, I would recommend to extend 425 as well, to, say, "field of activity" or something. We will need such a property not only in sports, but for all kinds of different organizations, e.g. companies.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kompakt" title="User:Kompakt">Kompakt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kompakt" title="User talk:Kompakt">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z-Docu-2013-05-26T05:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> I think "field of activity" is too broad and would prefer a separate property for sport to make it easier for editors to find the appropriate item. A property for "field of business" or similar can be created for businesses.</dd> <dd>If the devs decide that a single property covering both of these would make search queries better then they can create a "subproperty" in phase 3 and define "sport" and "business activity" as subproperties of "field of activity". <a href="/wiki/User:Filceolaire" title="User:Filceolaire">Filceolaire</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Filceolaire" title="User talk:Filceolaire">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z-Kompakt-2013-05-26T10:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z"></span>It would be used also to indicate the discipline practiced for an athlete? For example, Pietro Mennea --> 200 metres. If yes, I'm <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>. If not, it's the same ;-) (but something for Pietro Mennea --> 200 metres would be useful). -- <a href="/wiki/User:Yiyi" title="User:Yiyi"><span style="color:blue"><b><span style="font-family:cursive;font-size:14px">Yiyi</span></b></span></a> <span style="cursor:wait"><b>....</b></span> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yiyi" title="User talk:Yiyi">talk!</a>)</small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z-Filceolaire-2013-06-06T21:35:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-06-17T00:32:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z"></span>I'd suggest that <b>sport</b> = <a href="/wiki/Q211155" title="Q211155">200 metres <small>(Q211155)</small></a> would work just fine. I've claimed it as a subclass of sprinting, which is a subclass of athletics, and so on. So, the wider sport category can be found. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-06-17T00:32:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-06-17T00:32:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-06-17T00:32:00.000Z-Yiyi-2013-06-16T17:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:24:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Regards, — <a href="/wiki/User:Moe_Epsilon" title="User:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Moe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Epsilon</span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:24:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:24:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:24:00.000Z-Danrok-2013-05-18T17:23:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="of_item" data-mw-thread-id="h-of_item-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-of_item-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span>of item<span data-mw-comment-end="h-of_item-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z-of_item"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P642"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P642" title="Property:P642">of</a> <small>(P642)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P642" title="Property talk:P642">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>qualifiers stating that a statement applies within the scope of a particular item</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Martigny> <a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">office held</a> <a href="/wiki/Q30185" title="Q30185">mayor</a> of <a href="/wiki/Q323644" title="Q323644">Rochefourchat</a></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <p>We need a way to say that X is mayor of village Y for any village. As discussed in <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/05#Political_offices" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/05">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/05#Political_offices</a>, putting that in the item about the village iteself does not seem a practical solution. Creating a "mayor of village Y" item for every village does not seem really seem a sensible solution either (unless there is anything specific about the mayor of the village compared to mayors of similar villages). --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z-of_item" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z-of_item"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z-of_item"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lavallen-2013-05-11T10:53:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span>Maybe can also be used for captials: (if we are supposed to use "instance of" for that)</dd> <dd>Stockholm: "instance of" "capital" <"of" "Sweden"><"of" "Stockholm County"><"of" "Stockholm Municipality">.</dd> <dd>Since different kinds of capitals use different names (huvudstad, residensstad, centralort), something who tells what kind of capital is needed. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Lavallen" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Lavallen">Lavallen</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Lavallen" title="Special:Block/Lavallen">block</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Lavallen-2013-05-11T10:53:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lavallen-2013-05-11T10:53:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lavallen-2013-05-11T10:53:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span>I thought the head of government property is used inverse: <a href="/wiki/Q323644" title="Q323644">Rochefourchat</a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P6" title="Property:P6">head of local government</a> <Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Martigny> – so instead I think the example should be: <Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Martigny> <a href="/wiki/Property:P39" title="Property:P39">office held</a> <a href="/wiki/Q30185" title="Q30185">mayor</a> of <a href="/wiki/Q323644" title="Q323644">Rochefourchat</a>. Otherwise the proposal looks reasonable. <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-13T17:02:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I should have made that explicit in the example. As discussed in <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/05#Political_offices" title="Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2013/05">Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/05#Political_offices</a>, <a href="/wiki/Q323644" title="Q323644">Rochefourchat</a> <a href="/wiki/Property:P6" title="Property:P6">head of government</a> <Jean-Baptiste Le Moyne de Martigny> is actually a bit problematic (because we need USA: Head of State: President of the United States, not just Head of State: Barack Obama) --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-13T17:02:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 13 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-13T17:02:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-13T17:02:00.000Z-Byrial-2013-05-12T22:46:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> The qualifier seems useful, but meanwhile I see the potential for abuse, perhaps someone would add statements like "<X> <a href="/wiki/Property:P106" title="Property:P106">occupation</a> <politician> of <United States of America>". I suggest that the qualifier should only be used when the information cannot be stated using other properties. --<a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stevenliuyi" title="User talk:Stevenliuyi">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-05-14T19:43:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z"></span>I agree, any idea to make that clear in the label ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-05-14T19:43:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 14 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-05-14T19:43:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-05-14T19:43:00.000Z-Stevenliuyi-2013-05-14T18:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span>Okay, adopting this idea would have some serious consequences, so this should be discussed thoroughly before being implemented. Having "of" as a qualifier means that the qualifier property itself isn't really adding any data, so it's basically a way to have a top-level property accept two arguments. If Lavallen's idea about "instance of" "capital" "of" X is used, that would mean that either it or <a href="/wiki/Property:P36" title="Property:P36">P:P36</a> is redundant. Re use for mayor, the fact that there are some items like <a href="/wiki/Q785304" title="Q785304">Q785304</a> complicates it somewhat. There are hundreds of potential uses for this qualifier, but we should examine whether these are generally better than using an alternative solution. Also, we might want to ask the devs whether there are any plans to deploy a proper multi-item/argument property type at any point. --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:26, 20 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z"></span>Could you elaborate on the "serious consequences". I can sort of see that it seems to stretch the intended use of qualifiers, but still I think it would not really break anything. If X is the mayor Y, he is really an instance of mayor, so that it do not really make statements false.</li> <li>There does not seem to be any plan for anything like that by the developers in the initial development plan, so if something gets developed, it is unlikely to be this year. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Yair_rand-2013-05-20T02:26:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:40:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> why not use <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a>? Note that I've suggested renaming it to <b>applies to</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:40:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:40:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:40:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> if <a href="/wiki/Property:P518" title="Property:P518">applies to part, aspect, or form <small dir="ltr">(P518)</small></a> cannot be used for this. <a href="/wiki/User:Danrok" title="User:Danrok">Danrok</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danrok" title="User talk:Danrok">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danrok-2013-05-24T13:46:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Needed as a qualifier not only for mayors, but for many other functions (<dean> of a <faculty>, <bishop> of a <diocese>, <coach> of a <sports club> etc., as well as for some other properties (e.g. <a href="/wiki/Property:P166" title="Property:P166">award received <small dir="ltr">(P166)</small></a> <honorary citizenship> of a <city/country>). On the other hand, I'm quite afraid about using a general <of item> qualifier together with a general <instance of> statement to make a statement of anything. We could help it if we make clear guidance how to use it. <a href="/wiki/User:Stevenliuyi" title="User:Stevenliuyi">Stevenliuyi</a>'s idea (see above) of using it only as "ultima ratio" can be a good start, I would propose creating a list of properties which can take <of item> property as a qualifier - in a similar way as we have a list of acceptable values for some properties.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Shlomo&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Shlomo (page does not exist)">Shlomo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shlomo" title="User talk:Shlomo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z"></span>It is hard to make a full list. But I think it would mostly apply to <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a> and related properties. And also to properties like <a href="/wiki/Property:P180" title="Property:P180">depicts <small dir="ltr">(P180)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/Q13416617" title="Q13416617">Tectonic map and overall architecture of the Alpine orogen <small>(Q13416617)</small></a> depicts the orogenesis of the Alps). --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-18T15:44:00.000Z-Shlomo-2013-06-11T10:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:25:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Regards, — <a href="/wiki/User:Moe_Epsilon" title="User:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Moe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Epsilon</span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:25:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:25:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:25:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-05-11T10:43:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Freebase_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Freebase_identifier-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Freebase_identifier-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z"></span>Freebase identifier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Freebase_identifier-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Narphorium-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span>(moved from <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/all" title="Wikidata:Property proposal/all">Wikidata:Property proposal/all</a>) </p> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P646"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P646" title="Property:P646">Freebase ID</a> <small>(P646)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P646" title="Property talk:P646">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>An ID specifying an equivalent page in the Freebase open knowledge graph.</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>put Wikipedia infobox parameters here. If existing, sample: "population" in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/template:infobox_settlement" class="extiw" title="en:template:infobox settlement">en:template:infobox settlement</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>All named entities (eg. person, place, organization, event, creative work)</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>alpha-numeric string (eg. /m/0j9kvph)</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><a href="/wiki/Q2013" title="Q2013">Wikidata</a> => <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://freebase.com/m/0j9kvph">/m/0j9kvph</a></td></tr><tr><th>Format and edit filter validation</th><td>All Freebase identifiers should start with "/m/" followed by more than one of the following "0123456789bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxyz_".</td></tr><tr><th>Source</th><td><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://freebase.com">Freebase</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://developers.google.com/freebase/">Documentation</a></td></tr><tr><th>Robot and gadget jobs</th><td>This property can be populated by a bot using interwiki links in Freebase.</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Narphorium&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Narphorium (page does not exist)">Narphorium</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Narphorium" title="User talk:Narphorium">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Narphorium-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Narphorium-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Narphorium-2013-06-10T22:57:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span>Discussion</dt> <dd><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> As a large contributor to many other external identifiers like <a href="/wiki/Q214" title="Q214">Slovakia <small>(Q214)</small></a>, having these connections between the two can make a great bridge to draw other data across. So this could potentially be a boon to our other properties, and means that Wikipedias could include freebase properties. The reason I don't support is because I have to better understand Google's motivations before we start linking with them. <a href="/wiki/User:Maximilianklein" title="User:Maximilianklein">Maximilianklein</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maximilianklein" title="User talk:Maximilianklein">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:14, 14 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-Freebase_identifier"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> Freebase, and by extension the Knowledge Graph, makes use of WP infobox data and it would be great to close the loop so that fixes in either dataset get propagated in both directions. This would make it easier Google and Freebase to use WikiData as well as making it easier for WikiData to pull data from Freebase. This will improve the quality of both datasets over time. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=2620:0:1000:147D:1610:9FFF:FEDF:EC57&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="2620:0:1000:147D:1610:9FFF:FEDF:EC57 (page does not exist)">2620:0:1000:147D:1610:9FFF:FEDF:EC57</a> <dl><dd>There should certainly be no loop. Just imagine Wikidata using Freebase as reference and Freebase using Wikidata. We cannot use data from from Freebase. <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T08:57:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> IMHO we should discuss it widely with the community, before even accepting to link a similar database. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><a href="/wiki/User:Ricordisamoa" title="User:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#004B70">Ricordi</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ricordisamoa" title="User talk:Ricordisamoa"><span style="color:#00703E">samoa</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T08:57:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T08:57:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ricordisamoa-2013-06-17T08:57:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span>Actually, I can imagine that there would be some benefits for Google, as it would probably outsource some of the curation work needed for Freebase. I am not so sure about the benefits for Wikidata as we have stricter requirements in terms of sources, and of license, that may make it hard to use Freebase content. That said, I cannot see what harm there can be in having this link. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b>, I have left a message at the Village Pump. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-17T15:18:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T16:08:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - In my opinion there is no harm to link to Freebase, but nothing really to gain as freebase is of poor quality for most scientific topics (The other items probably not meeting the notability standards). I oppose importing data and properties. That would just increase the "imported from Wikipedia" source problem. Lastly one has to admit that any structured information added to Wikipedia and Wikidata (or the internet for that matter) will benefit the business models of internet search engine providers. A point we might as well ignore, the Wikimedia foundation should charge for, or we have to be thankful for the donations (e.g. Google, Yandex). --<a href="/wiki/User:Tobias1984" title="User:Tobias1984">Tobias1984</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tobias1984" title="User talk:Tobias1984">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T16:08:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T16:08:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tobias1984-2013-06-17T16:08:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/15px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/23px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Pictogram_voting_comment.svg/30px-Pictogram_voting_comment.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="250" data-file-height="250"/></span></span> <b>Comment</b> – I cannot see any gain from having this property, but I would like to see a motivation for the proposal before definitive saying no. <a href="/wiki/User:Byrial" title="User:Byrial">Byrial</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Byrial" title="User talk:Byrial">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Byrial-2013-06-17T17:29:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z-1"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-06-18T00:50:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> linking to Freebase, just like we link to all sorts of other databases, as well as using it as a source in the "imported from" field, seeing as we've historically allowed using user-generated sources for the importing of statements.<b> — <a href="/wiki/User:PinkAmpersand" title="User:PinkAmpersand"><u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u></a></b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:PinkAmpersand" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:PinkAmpersand"><b><u><font color="FF1493">&</font></u></b><font color="000"><sup>(<u><i>Je vous invite à me parler</i></u>)</sup></font></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-PinkAmpersand-2013-06-18T00:50:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-06-18T00:50:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PinkAmpersand-2013-06-18T00:50:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FischX-2013-06-18T11:56:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Useful --<a href="/wiki/User:FischX" title="User:FischX">FischX</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FischX" title="User talk:FischX">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-FischX-2013-06-18T11:56:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FischX-2013-06-18T11:56:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FischX-2013-06-18T11:56:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:32:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Regards, — <a href="/wiki/User:Moe_Epsilon" title="User:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Moe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Epsilon</span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:32:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:32:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T21:32:00.000Z-Maximilianklein-2013-06-14T19:14:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Open_Library_identifier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span>Open Library identifier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Open_Library_identifier"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P648"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P648" title="Property:P648">Open Library ID</a> <small>(P648)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P648" title="Property talk:P648">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>Numeric book identifier, similar to ISBN but without date restriction. It has two versions: at work and at edition level</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#string" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">String</a></td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>Mainly published materials.</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>OLXXXXXW for works, OLXXXXXXM for editions, where X is a number.</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td><i>Twenty years after </i> <Open Library identifier> <i>OL6985207M</i></td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Open_Library_identifier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Open_Library_identifier"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Open_Library_identifier"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force#Edition_properties" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikidata:Books task force">Wikidata:Books_task_force#Edition_properties</a>--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Micru (page does not exist)">Micru</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Micru&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Micru (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LeadSongDog-2013-06-05T21:10:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> Caution, identifiers are non-unique. There can be several OLXXXXXW work numbers for one work, several OLXXXXXXM edition numbers for one edition, and several OLXXXXXA numbers for one author. There is a redirect mechanism on OpenLibrary, but it does not work cleanly at this time. <a href="/wiki/User:LeadSongDog" title="User:LeadSongDog">LeadSongDog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LeadSongDog" title="User talk:LeadSongDog">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-LeadSongDog-2013-06-05T21:10:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LeadSongDog-2013-06-05T21:10:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LeadSongDog-2013-06-05T21:10:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kolja21-2013-06-15T15:26:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> The label is disambiguate. Do we need two identifiers? If this one should be for books (works and editions) what is the label for the "Open Library identifier"s for authors. --<a href="/wiki/User:Kolja21" title="User:Kolja21">Kolja21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kolja21" title="User talk:Kolja21">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Kolja21-2013-06-15T15:26:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kolja21-2013-06-15T15:26:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kolja21-2013-06-15T15:26:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T22:05:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> Regards, — <a href="/wiki/User:Moe_Epsilon" title="User:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Moe</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moe_Epsilon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Moe Epsilon"><span style="color:royalblue; font-family: Segoe Script">Epsilon</span></a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T22:05:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T22:05:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moe_Epsilon-2013-06-18T22:05:00.000Z-Micru-2013-06-05T01:02:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="Direction_relative_to_location_(en)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"><span id="Direction_relative_to_location_.28en.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span>Direction relative to location (en)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-Open_Library_identifier-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span></h4></div> <div class="property-navibox" dir="ltr"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2262253935"><div class="property-navibox-header"><ul class="property-navibox-links plainlinks"><li class="mw-empty-elt"></li></ul><div><span style="background-color:#0C0;"> </span> <span id="P654"></span>Done: <a href="/wiki/Property:P654" title="Property:P654">direction relative to location</a> <small>(P654)</small> (<a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P654" title="Property talk:P654">Talk and documentation</a>)</div></div><div class="property-navibox-main"><table><tbody><tr><th>Description</th><td>To be used as a qualifier for geographical locations to express relative direction (e.g. "west of Goldsby").</td></tr><tr><th>Data type</th><td><a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data_type#wikibase-item" title="Special:MyLanguage/Help:Data type">Item</a></td></tr><tr><th>Template parameter</th><td>n/a</td></tr><tr><th>Domain</th><td>To be used in any situation where it is appropriate to state a relative location</td></tr><tr><th>Allowed values</th><td>any</td></tr><tr><th>Example</th><td>See description</td></tr><tr><th>Proposed by</th><td>—<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div> <dl><dt>Discussion</dt></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-1"></span>If a less clunky label can be come up with, please suggest it. —<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-1"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)-1"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:47:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> - Could definitely be useful as a qualifier for properties like <a href="/wiki/Property:P559" title="Property:P559">terminus <small dir="ltr">(P559)</small></a>. <big><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TCN7JM" title="User talk:TCN7JM"><font color="blue" face="Garamond">T</font></a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TCN7JM" title="Special:Contributions/TCN7JM"><font color="red" face="Garamond">C</font></a><a href="/wiki/User:TCN7JM" title="User:TCN7JM"><font color="gray" face="Garamond">N7</font><font color="black" face="Garamond">JM</font></a></big> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:47:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:47:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TCN7JM-2013-06-06T02:47:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rschen7754-2013-06-06T06:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b> --<b><a href="/wiki/User:Rschen7754" title="User:Rschen7754">Rs</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rschen7754" title="User talk:Rschen7754">chen</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rschen7754" title="Special:Contributions/Rschen7754">7754</a></b> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Rschen7754-2013-06-06T06:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rschen7754-2013-06-06T06:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rschen7754-2013-06-06T06:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span>Isn't that <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">P596 <small dir="ltr">(P596)</small></a> ? --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T02:17:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z"></span>No, but <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">P596 <small dir="ltr">(P596)</small></a> appears to be redundant to <a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a>, so I will be headed off to properties for deletion after this. The difference here is that 560/596 are used to tag the <i>direction</i> of something (e.g. distinguishing between the north and south ends of something). This property would be to establish location <i>relative to</i> something else (e.g. establishing that something is north of something else). The reason both are needed is because of things like the terminus location parameter proposed directly above this; a location may need to be qualified as referring to the north end of the item, but being west of some city. —<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T07:24:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z"></span>I am not sure I understand, could you provide a full example ? As I see it, P596 is used to state relative positions, like <a href="/wiki/Q18" title="Q18">North America borders South America to the North</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-06T08:02:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T09:14:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z"></span>Sure. <a href="/wiki/Q2174277" title="Q2174277">Oklahoma State Highway 132 <small>(Q2174277)</small></a> has its south end at a point west of the town of <a href="/wiki/Q2305381" title="Q2305381">Hennessey <small>(Q2305381)</small></a>. So with this property and the terminus location property proposed above, that would be expressed <a href="/wiki/Q2174277" title="Q2174277">Oklahoma State Highway 132 <small>(Q2174277)</small></a> <i><terminus location></i> <a href="/wiki/Q2305381" title="Q2305381">Hennessey <small>(Q2305381)</small></a> <<a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a>> <a href="/wiki/Q667" title="Q667">south <small>(Q667)</small></a>, <direction relative to location> <a href="/wiki/Q679" title="Q679">west <small>(Q679)</small></a>.</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <ul><li><ul><li><ul><li><ul><li>If <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">P596 <small dir="ltr">(P596)</small></a> is meant to fulfill the purpose of this proposal, then its documentation needs to be improved to make this evident, as direction <i>of</i> something versus direction <i>relative to</i> something is a subtle point, and the way the documentation is worded now makes it look wholly redundant to <a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T09:14:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T09:14:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-06-06T09:14:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-06T08:18:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul> <p><span class="outdent-template" style="display:block; margin-top:-0.5em; color:#AAA;"><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┌</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden; word-wrap:normal; width:15.2em;">────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────</span><span style="display:inline-block; overflow:hidden;">┘</span></span><span></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span> Yes, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">P596 <small dir="ltr">(P596)</small></a> should be relabelled and better documented, but looking at how it is used, it seems to be different from <a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a>. </p><p>I think that this proposal is similar to how P596 is used, except that the syntax is inverted: </p> <ul><li><code>Asia: shares borders with: Europe: <small>to the West</small></code></li> <li><code><a href="/wiki/Q2174277" title="Q2174277">Oklahoma State Highway 132 <small>(Q2174277)</small></a>: end point: <a href="/wiki/Q2305381" title="Q2305381">Hennessey <small>(Q2305381)</small></a><small>West of</small></code></li></ul> <p>In the second case, "West" means West of the property value, while in the first one, it means West of the item, so East of the property value. That seems potentially confusing, and I think we should have just one format, but I really do not know which one. --<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z-Direction_relative_to_location_(en)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z"></span>See, to me that looks a lot like what <a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a> is doing. Asia has multiple borders. One is with Europe. Which one? The west border. (By analogy to SH-132—the highway has multiple end points. One of them is at SH-51. Which one? The south end point.) I think that <a href="/w/index.php?title=Property:P596&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Property:P596 (page does not exist)">P596 <small dir="ltr">(P596)</small></a> is probably a lot closer to <a href="/wiki/Property:P560" title="Property:P560">direction <small dir="ltr">(P560)</small></a> than to this proposal. I agree, it's a somewhat confusing distinction to make, but I think it is one that should be made. —<a href="/wiki/User:Scott5114" title="User:Scott5114">Scott5114</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Scott5114" title="User talk:Scott5114">↗</a> <span style="font-size:75%"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scott5114" title="Special:Contributions/Scott5114">[EXACT CHANGE ONLY]</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z-Zolo-2013-06-07T07:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zolo-2013-06-07T14:08:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z"></span>Ok, I think you are right, so <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> <b>Support</b>--<a href="/wiki/User:Zolo" title="User:Zolo">Zolo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zolo" title="User talk:Zolo">talk</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/8#c-Zolo-2013-06-07T14:08:00.000Z-Scott5114-2013-06-07T10:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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