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Die neue ist ja 2.3.0<br> <br> Frage: Kann ich damit rechnen dass nach der Installation der aktuellen Version das Portal wieder da ist?<br> Und dann: Was muss ich tun um die vorhandenen Einstellungen und Eintragungen im Portal nicht zu verlieren? Ordner sichern?</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1428995" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1428995"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=190625_1430903531.jpg" width="80" height="80" alt="Benutzeravatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Supporter<br /><img src="./images/ranks/rang_supporter.png" alt="Supporter" title="Supporter" /></dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=190625&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">2712</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 15.12.2014 10:19</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Kontaktdaten:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://www.wcsaga.org" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1428995"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428995&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428995">Re: Board 3 Portal - weiße Seite nach Forenupdate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1428995&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428995&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428995" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-10-17T20:45:45+00:00">17.10.2024 22:45</time> </p> <div class="content">nAbend<br> <br> Portal 2.1.0 ist sowohl für phpBB 3.3 als auch für PHP 8 untauglich. Bevor wir hier anfangen Debugging zu betreiben, bitte erstmal auf die aktuelle Version von Kirk aktualisieren und dann schauen wir, ob das Problem noch existiert:<br> <br> <a href="https://www.board3.de" class="postlink">https://www.board3.de</a><br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=1428994&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428994"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=98279&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">Rettich</a> hat geschrieben: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428994&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428994" aria-label="Zitierten Beitrag anzeigen" data-post-id="1428994" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash"><i class="icon fa-arrow-circle-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i></a><span class="responsive-hide">17.10.2024 22:39</span></cite> Frage: Kann ich damit rechnen dass nach der Installation der aktuellen Version das Portal wieder da ist? </div></blockquote> Kannst du. Einfach ein reguläres Update machen wie mit jeder anderen Ext auch. Aber ein vorheriges DB Backup hat noch nie geschadet. <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif" width="15" height="17" alt=":wink:" title="Zwinkern"></div> <div id="sig1428995" class="signature">Möge das Backup mit dir sein. 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Es bleibt aber noch die Frage wie ich die vielen Änderungen in Portal erhalte. Da muss ich doch vor der Installation der aktuellen Version des Portals einen Ordner bzw. Datei sichern.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1428998" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1428998"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=190625_1430903531.jpg" width="80" height="80" alt="Benutzeravatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Supporter<br /><img src="./images/ranks/rang_supporter.png" alt="Supporter" title="Supporter" /></dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=190625&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">2712</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 15.12.2014 10:19</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Kontaktdaten:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://www.wcsaga.org" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1428998"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428998&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428998">Re: Board 3 Portal - weiße Seite nach Forenupdate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1428998&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428998&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428998" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-10-17T22:07:34+00:00">18.10.2024 00:07</time> </p> <div class="content">hmm welche "Änderungen" meinst du? Im Startbeitrag hattest du von Einstellungen und Eintragungen gesprochen. Und diese werden in der DB gespeichert, nicht im Datei-System.</div> <div id="sig1428998" class="signature">Möge das Backup mit dir sein. Immer.<br> <strong class="text-strong">Kein Support via PN!</strong> Siehe den Punkt "Private Nachrichten" im <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/kb/viewarticle?a=7" class="postlink">phpBB.de-Knigge</a>.<br> <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/community/viewtopic.php?t=246191" class="postlink">Erweiterungen - Infos zur artgerechten Haltung</a> / <a href="https://www.phpbb.de/community/viewtopic.php?t=244054" class="postlink">phpBB Ext Check - Analyse von Erweiterungen bezüglich Vorgaben und Kompatibilität</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1428999" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1428999"> <dt class="has-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=98279&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" class="username">Rettich</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Mitglied</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=98279&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">12</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 17.03.2008 11:55</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1428999"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428999&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428999">Re: Board 3 Portal - weiße Seite nach Forenupdate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1428999&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428999&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428999" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=98279&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" class="username">Rettich</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-10-17T22:57:10+00:00">18.10.2024 00:57</time> </p> <div class="content">Alles gut! Ich hatte gedanklich einen Aussetzer. Klar, die Arbeitsdateien werden ja in der Datenbank abgelegt. Also das Portal deaktiviert, dann gelöscht, aktuelle Version hochgeladen und... läuft!<br> <br> Vielen Dank noch einmal!</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p1429002" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile1429002"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=190625_1430903531.jpg" width="80" height="80" alt="Benutzeravatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Supporter<br /><img src="./images/ranks/rang_supporter.png" alt="Supporter" title="Supporter" /></dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=190625&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">2712</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> 15.12.2014 10:19</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Kontaktdaten:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Kontaktdaten von LukeWCS</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://www.wcsaga.org" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content1429002"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429002&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1429002">Re: Board 3 Portal - weiße Seite nach Forenupdate</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=1429002&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitieren</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=1429002&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1429002" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=190625&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f" style="color: #2B42AF;" class="username-coloured">LukeWCS</a></strong> &raquo; </span><time datetime="2024-10-18T12:16:59+00:00">18.10.2024 14:16</time> </p> <div class="content">Okay, dann ist das geklärt, danke für Rückmeldung.<br> <blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=1428999&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428999"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=98279&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f">Rettich</a> hat geschrieben: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=1428999&amp;sid=553120f2b0e36a4169f4d490feca700f#p1428999" aria-label="Zitierten Beitrag anzeigen" data-post-id="1428999" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash"><i class="icon fa-arrow-circle-up fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i></a><span class="responsive-hide">18.10.2024 00:57</span></cite> Also das Portal deaktiviert, dann gelöscht, aktuelle Version hochgeladen und... läuft! </div></blockquote> Genau, also der übliche Update-Weg bei einer Ext und so bleiben die Daten ja auch erhalten. <br> <br> Das eine Ext "Daten" innerhalb des Ext Ordners ablegt, ist höchst unüblich und sollte auch möglichst von Ext Entwicklern vermieden werden. Wenn das doch mal notwendig sein sollte, muss der Entwickler das klar und deutlich benennen.</div> <div id="sig1429002" class="signature">Möge das Backup mit dir sein. 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