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id="mw-content-text" class="mw-body-content"><div class="mw-talkpageheader"> </div><div class="mw-content-ltr mw-parser-output" lang="en" dir="ltr"><p>Bonjour ! </p> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#WMF_projects"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">WMF projects</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#QuickStatements"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">QuickStatements</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Ajout_de_libellé_en_français"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Ajout de libellé en français</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Your_feedback_matters:_Final_reminder_to_take_the_global_Wikimedia_survey"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#French_film_titles"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">French film titles</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#VANDALISM"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span class="toctext">VANDALISM</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-8"><a href="#Share_your_experience_and_feedback_as_a_Wikimedian_in_this_global_survey_2"><span class="tocnumber">8</span> <span class="toctext">Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-9"><a href="#Reminder:_Share_your_feedback_in_this_Wikimedia_survey"><span class="tocnumber">9</span> <span class="toctext">Reminder: Share your feedback in this Wikimedia survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-10"><a href="#batch/8334"><span class="tocnumber">10</span> <span class="toctext">batch/8334</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-11"><a href="#OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?"><span class="tocnumber">11</span> <span class="toctext">OpenRefine - slight regex/special character problem?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-12"><a href="#Hajo_Beeckman"><span class="tocnumber">12</span> <span class="toctext">Hajo Beeckman</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-13"><a href="#Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">13</span> <span class="toctext">Request for help and improvement for Fanny Cadeo on Wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-14"><a href="#Éléments_sur_des_CR"><span class="tocnumber">14</span> <span class="toctext">Éléments sur des CR</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-15"><a href="#Diff"><span class="tocnumber">15</span> <span class="toctext">Diff</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#Minimum_for_family_name_items"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">Minimum for family name items</span></a> <ul> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-17"><a href="#épouse"><span class="tocnumber">16.1</span> <span class="toctext">épouse</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-18"><a href="#Caps"><span class="tocnumber">16.2</span> <span class="toctext">Caps</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-2 tocsection-19"><a href="#string_length"><span class="tocnumber">16.3</span> <span class="toctext">string length</span></a></li> </ul> </li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">André Fabre (Q60185464)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Éléments_"maire_de_X""><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">Éléments "maire de X"</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Deux_questions_subsidiaires"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Deux questions subsidiaires</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Reminder: Community Insights Survey</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#Bonne_année"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Bonne année</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Barbasso_Bruas"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Barbasso Bruas</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Question_pour_Arpyia"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Question pour Arpyia</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion à Wikidata:Project chat</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs_établissements"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">système national d'identification et du répertoire des entreprises et de leurs établissements</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_"Academie"_entries?"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Why remove all the P6413 properties from "Academie" entries?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Tressaint_(Q86708000)"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Tressaint (Q86708000)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Embassy"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Embassy</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#2014_ou_2012"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">2014 ou 2012</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-34"><a href="#Troarn_et_Sannerville"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Troarn et Sannerville</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-35"><a href="#Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Wrong family names, e.g. Monique Rosset-Lanchet Née Mercier</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-36"><a href="#Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Maires en doublon, suite (et, espérons-le, fin)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-37"><a href="#[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community"><span class="tocnumber">34</span> <span class="toctext">[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-38"><a href="#Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!"><span class="tocnumber">35</span> <span class="toctext">Nice work with the vaccination programmes!</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-39"><a href="#Alain_ferrand_wikidata"><span class="tocnumber">36</span> <span class="toctext">Alain ferrand wikidata</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-40"><a href="#Shadow_(Q112289275)"><span class="tocnumber">37</span> <span class="toctext">Shadow (Q112289275)</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-41"><a href="#Merci_!"><span class="tocnumber">38</span> <span class="toctext">Merci !</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-42"><a href="#Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle"><span class="tocnumber">39</span> <span class="toctext">Commune et commune et commune nouvelle</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-43"><a href="#Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque"><span class="tocnumber">40</span> <span class="toctext">Dunkerque and former Dunkerque</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-44"><a href="#EHPAD"><span class="tocnumber">41</span> <span class="toctext">EHPAD</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-45"><a href="#Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"><span class="tocnumber">42</span> <span class="toctext">Mâcon, créée en 1972 ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-46"><a href="#Nomenclature_d'activités_française"><span class="tocnumber">43</span> <span class="toctext">Nomenclature d'activités française</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-47"><a href="#Dates_de_création_de_villes"><span class="tocnumber">44</span> <span class="toctext">Dates de création de villes</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-48"><a href="#Mairies_françaises"><span class="tocnumber">45</span> <span class="toctext">Mairies françaises</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-49"><a href="#recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"><span class="tocnumber">46</span> <span class="toctext">recensement des équipements sportifs, espaces et sites de pratiques en France</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-50"><a href="#_Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"><span class="tocnumber">47</span> <span class="toctext"> Refuge du Parmelan (1825M) »</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-51"><a href="#Doublons_d'installations_sportives"><span class="tocnumber">48</span> <span class="toctext">Doublons d'installations sportives</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-52"><a href="#Isabelle_Dexpert"><span class="tocnumber">49</span> <span class="toctext">Isabelle Dexpert</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-53"><a href="#merge_some_NACE_items"><span class="tocnumber">50</span> <span class="toctext">merge some NACE items</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-54"><a href="#incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET"><span class="tocnumber">51</span> <span class="toctext">incompatibilité SIREN et SIRET</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-55"><a href="#Fougères"><span class="tocnumber">52</span> <span class="toctext">Fougères</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-56"><a href="#Q22670030"><span class="tocnumber">53</span> <span class="toctext">Q22670030</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-57"><a href="#Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"><span class="tocnumber">54</span> <span class="toctext">Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-58"><a href="#Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?"><span class="tocnumber">55</span> <span class="toctext">Dunkerque créée en 2010 ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-59"><a href="#universities_are_organizations,_no?"><span class="tocnumber">56</span> <span class="toctext">universities are organizations, no?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-60"><a href="#P159/P131_French_Embassies"><span class="tocnumber">57</span> <span class="toctext">P159/P131 French Embassies</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-61"><a href="#Lycée_in_France"><span class="tocnumber">58</span> <span class="toctext">Lycée in France</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-62"><a href="#Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?"><span class="tocnumber">59</span> <span class="toctext">Imports incorrects de SIRENE ?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-63"><a href="#Companies"><span class="tocnumber">60</span> <span class="toctext">Companies</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-64"><a href="#Organisations"><span class="tocnumber">61</span> <span class="toctext">Organisations</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-65"><a href="#Écoles"><span class="tocnumber">62</span> <span class="toctext">Écoles</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WMF_projects" data-mw-thread-id="h-WMF_projects-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WMF_projects-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z"></span>WMF projects<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WMF_projects-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: WMF projects"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-I18n-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z-WMF_projects"></span>Hi! I have seen your edit at <a href="/wiki/Q16735590" title="Q16735590">Czech Wikisource <small>(Q16735590)</small></a> and want to let you know that the number of <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/WMF_projects" title="Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects">Wikidata:Database reports/WMF projects</a> has increased to more then 385. You may be interested in adding labels and descriptions in other languages, follow the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P1800" title="Property talk:P1800">property talk:P1800</a> and comment there. Best regards <a href="/wiki/User:Gangleri" title="User:Gangleri">Gangleri</a> also aka <a href="/wiki/User:I18n" title="User:I18n">I18n</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:I18n" title="User talk:I18n"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-I18n-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z-WMF_projects" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 12 January 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I18n-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z-WMF_projects"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-I18n-2016-01-12T05:39:00.000Z-WMF_projects"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="QuickStatements" data-mw-thread-id="h-QuickStatements-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-QuickStatements-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"></span>QuickStatements<span data-mw-comment-end="h-QuickStatements-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: QuickStatements"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span>Hi! I would like to ask you how are you using QuickStatements to add a label in French from a label in other language? What is the code I would have to use? Thanks! --<a href="/wiki/User:Davidpar" title="User:Davidpar">Davidpar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Davidpar" title="User talk:Davidpar"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z-QuickStatements" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z-QuickStatements"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z-QuickStatements"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"></span>Hi,</dd> <dd>I have figured that out for myself, so it might not be the "right" or most efficient way to do things, but hey, it works! <ul><li>First step is going to <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-nolabels/">this page</a> to get a list. First box is wikidata code: for example typing "claim[31:5] and claim[27:45]" is how I got a list of people marked as "Portuguese". Second box is the language I'm working in. Third box is the label I want to use (I try to choose the best one, like Portuguese for Portuguese people).</li> <li>Second step is copy-pasting the list in a Calc spreadsheet. It's a messier part. There's a menu item for pasting the data without the links, which allows me to define "separators" for my data. Putting "(" and "," as separators helped remove disambiguation parts. I also use sorting to remove empty lines. And you have to add a new column between the number and the label, which reads in my case "Lfr" for label in French.</li> <li>Third step is going to <a class="external text" href="https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/quick_statements.php">this page</a> and copy-pasting the whole thing into the big box. And there it goes!</li></ul></dd> <dd>Feel free to ask more questions. I'll be happy to help you! <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z-Davidpar-2016-02-08T05:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Piramidion-2016-03-07T18:46:00.000Z-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z"></span>Hi! Your explanation helped me too, thank you very much! <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span>--<a href="/wiki/User:Piramidion" title="User:Piramidion">Piramidion</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Piramidion" title="User talk:Piramidion"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Piramidion-2016-03-07T18:46:00.000Z-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 7 March 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Piramidion-2016-03-07T18:46:00.000Z-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Piramidion-2016-03-07T18:46:00.000Z-Arpyia-2016-02-08T11:02:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ajout_de_libellé_en_français" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z"><span id="Ajout_de_libell.C3.A9_en_fran.C3.A7ais"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Ajout de libellé en français<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Ajout de libellé en français"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tubezlob-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français"></span>Salut Arpyia, </p><p>J'ai vu que tu avais ajouté les libellés en français de noms d'évêques à partir de l'allemand. Pour les noms de rois, de nobles, d'évêques comme ça, il faut faire une traduction du prénom et de la particule. Exemple avec <a href="/wiki/Q18672065" title="Q18672065">Q18672065</a> : Heinrich I. von Hasenburg → Henri I<sup>er</sup> de Hasebourg (j'ai pris un exemple avec tout qui change, mais le plus souvent, on doit changer seulement le prénom et la préposition). J'ai lu l'article <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particule_(onomastique)" class="extiw" title="fr:Particule (onomastique)">particule</a> sur Wikipédia, et la <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particule_(onomastique)#Particules_étrangères" class="extiw" title="fr:Particule (onomastique)">section particules étrangères</a> nous intéresse particulièrement. En anglais, j'ai l'impression qu'ils ne s'embêtent pas à tout traduire, il garde le nom dans la langue maternelle de la personne. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Tubezlob" title="User:Tubezlob">Tubezlob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tubezlob" title="User talk:Tubezlob">🙋</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Tubezlob-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tubezlob-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tubezlob-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z-Ajout_de_libellé_en_français"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2016-04-14T13:23:00.000Z-Tubezlob-2016-04-14T12:33:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour,</dd> <dd>J'essaie de faire au mieux quand j'ajoute des libellés, et j'avais traduit pas mal de noms anglais et allemands, mais il y a sans doute encore beaucoup de noms manquants et d'erreurs. 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There seems to be a problem with the list. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Meisam" title="User:Meisam">Meisam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Meisam" title="User talk:Meisam"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z-batch/8334" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 11 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z-batch/8334"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z-batch/8334"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reedy_(WMF)-2019-02-11T00:50:00.000Z-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z"></span>Hey, sorry for blocking you with my staff account. This was brought up on IRC that this job was adding the wrong things. I was unable to stop the batch, so this was the easiest way to prevent the damage spreading. I've started a revert <a href="/wiki/User:Reedy_(WMF)" title="User:Reedy (WMF)">Reedy (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reedy_(WMF)" title="User talk:Reedy (WMF)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Reedy_(WMF)-2019-02-11T00:50:00.000Z-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 11 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reedy_(WMF)-2019-02-11T00:50:00.000Z-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reedy_(WMF)-2019-02-11T00:50:00.000Z-Meisam-2019-02-11T00:24:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?" data-mw-thread-id="h-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z"><span id="OpenRefine_-_slight_regex.2Fspecial_character_problem.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z"></span>OpenRefine - slight regex/special character problem?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: OpenRefine - slight regex/special character problem?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moebeus-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?"></span>Hi there! I noticed a small thing with a batch-job of yours: <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q242110&curid=235370&diff=860328931&oldid=857563867">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q242110&curid=235370&diff=860328931&oldid=857563867</a> It seems the script/bot doesn't recognise the character "ọ" and so replaces it with a question mark. The singer "<b>Ayọ</b>" thus gets the catalan label "<b>Ay?</b>". Could you have a look when you have the time? <a href="/wiki/User:Moebeus" title="User:Moebeus">Moebeus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moebeus" title="User talk:Moebeus"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Moebeus-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moebeus-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moebeus-2019-02-19T12:08:00.000Z-OpenRefine_-_slight_regex/special_character_problem?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hajo_Beeckman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hajo_Beeckman-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hajo_Beeckman-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"></span>Hajo Beeckman<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hajo_Beeckman-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Hajo Beeckman"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z-Hajo_Beeckman"></span>Where does the label come from, that you just added to <a href="/wiki/Q57730933" title="Q57730933">Hajo Beeckman <small>(Q57730933)</small></a>? It contained a soft hyphen (U+00AD) between k and m, which I corrected but different users keep re-introducing it! --<a href="/wiki/User:Bdijkstra" title="User:Bdijkstra">bdijkstra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bdijkstra#top" title="User talk:Bdijkstra">overleg</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z-Hajo_Beeckman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 15 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z-Hajo_Beeckman"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z-Hajo_Beeckman"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-16T09:33:00.000Z-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"></span>Hello,</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Sorry, I don't know what a soft hyphen is. The labels I use simply come from the labels in other languages for the same item (in that case, from French to Catalan). I guess other users do the same. Whatever the problem is, it should not happen again if you can correct it in all languages on Wikidata.</dd></dl> <dl><dd><a href="/w/index.php?title=Gebruiker:Arpyia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Gebruiker:Arpyia (page does not exist)">Arpyia</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Arpyia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Overleg gebruiker:Arpyia (page does not exist)">overleg</a>) 16 mrt 2019 08:54 (CET)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Please keep discussions in one place. A soft hyphen is a normally invisible control character. On 13 February I cleaned up all labels, including French. Did you use a label from before that? --<a href="/wiki/User:Bdijkstra" title="User:Bdijkstra">bdijkstra</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bdijkstra#top" title="User talk:Bdijkstra">overleg</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-16T09:33:00.000Z-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-16T09:33:00.000Z-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bdijkstra-2019-03-16T09:33:00.000Z-Bdijkstra-2019-03-15T09:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z"></span>Request for help and improvement for Fanny Cadeo on Wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Request for help and improvement for Fanny Cadeo on Wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata"></span>Hello from Coreca, I am writing to greet you and to know how you are, besides this to ask you a favor. I contacted Ms. Cadeo, she told me and gave the precise date of the engagement and closure with the entrepreneur Stefano Caviglia. have been together from 2013 to 2016. how can I create the item in question on Wikidata? could you help me Sure of your certain and beautiful answer I thank you in advance.--<a href="/wiki/User:Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino" title="User:Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino">Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino" title="User talk:Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 16 March 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Luigi_Salvatore_Vadacchino-2019-03-16T12:22:00.000Z-Request_for_help_and_improvement_for_Fanny_Cadeo_on_Wikidata"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Éléments_sur_des_CR" data-mw-thread-id="h-Éléments_sur_des_CR-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"><span id=".C3.89l.C3.A9ments_sur_des_CR"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Éléments_sur_des_CR-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Éléments sur des CR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Éléments_sur_des_CR-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Éléments sur des CR"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"></span>Salut ! Je vois que tu as créé pas mal d'éléments sur des conseillers régionaux ces derniers temps. Puis-je te demander si tu te bases sur le Répertoire national des élus ? Et si tu as pour projet de tous les couvrir ? </p><p>Bien à toi, <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 4 May 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Merci pour ta réponse !</dd> <dd>Tu fais tout le travail de collection des données à la main... ? Eh bien, je suis impressionné... Bravo !</dd> <dd>Du coup, comme la question m'intéresse, je serais heureux de pouvoir t'aider. Donc, si je peux faire quelque chose pour faire avance l'affaire, n'hésite pas ;).</dd> <dd>Une dernière remarque : pour l'info, je ne sais pas si tu sais mais il y a un projet similaire qui s'est monté au sujet des maires français, autour de <a href="/wiki/User:Johanricher" title="User:Johanricher"><span title="user page of Johanricher">Johanricher</span></a>.</dd> <dd>Bien à toi, <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 5 May 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-04T15:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T14:19:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z"></span>Concernant le projet EveryPolitician France : <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://pad.codefor.fr/s/HkFnkGp5X">[2]</a>.</dd> <dd>Pour ce qui est des conseillers communautaires, je ne te cache pas que je suis un peu réservé ; je n'ai aucun problème avec l'idée que nous devrions avoir tous les maires et conseillers généraux et régionaux de France sur WD, mais pour ce qui est des élus locaux qui ne font même pas partie des exécutifs (et pour lesquels on n'a souvent rien d'autre que le nom)... Je ne vois pas trop en quoi ils rentrent dans le cadre de <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Notability" title="Wikidata:Notability">Wikidata:Notability</a>. C'est un débat que je serais ravi d'avoir sur le Bistro francophone, par exemple, mais là je ne veux pas abuser de ton temps ^^.</dd> <dd>Bien à toi, <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T14:19:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 5 May 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T14:19:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T14:19:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-05-05T11:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"></span>Intéressant ton travail, ça me permet à l'occasion de compléter par des photos. Je fouille dans mes dossiers en ce moment, et je réalise que j'ai pas mal d'élus en photo, je fais sortir ces photos de leur sommeil. Sur Wikipédia, on a bossé sur un modèle qui permet de lister les maires successifs, voir <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somain" class="extiw" title="fr:Somain">fr:Somain</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 5 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z-Éléments_sur_des_CR"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-06T08:06:00.000Z-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Avec Alt0160 on a travaillé sur <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Liste_des_dirigeants_successifs" class="extiw" title="fr:Modèle:Liste des dirigeants successifs">fr:Modèle:Liste des dirigeants successifs</a>, on s'en sert pour lister les maires successifs dans différents pays. Avec Wikidata Infobox, les élus que tu entres peuvent être visibles dans l'infobox des catégories des communes. Je suis confiant, je pense que l'an prochain on sera capable de mettre à jour les maires suite aux élections, restera juste à adapter l'infobox Commune de France (et ça, c'est pas gagné). <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-06T08:06:00.000Z-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-06T08:06:00.000Z-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-06T08:06:00.000Z-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-05-05T15:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Diff" data-mw-thread-id="h-Diff-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Diff-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z"></span>Diff<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Diff-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Diff"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benoît_Prieur-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z-Diff"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Simple pb de copié/collé ? <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30334006&diff=936747211&oldid=936746482">https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30334006&diff=936747211&oldid=936746482</a> </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Beno%C3%AEt_Prieur" title="User:Benoît Prieur">Benoît</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beno%C3%AEt_Prieur" title="User talk:Benoît Prieur">discussion</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Benoît_Prieur-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z-Diff" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benoît_Prieur-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z-Diff"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benoît_Prieur-2019-05-09T11:28:00.000Z-Diff"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Minimum_for_family_name_items" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span>Minimum for family name items<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Minimum for family name items"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z-Minimum_for_family_name_items"></span>Hi Arpyia, </p><p>If possible, would you consider including <a href="/wiki/Property:P282" title="Property:P282">writing system <small dir="ltr">(P282)</small></a>=<a href="/wiki/Q8229" title="Q8229">Latin script <small>(Q8229)</small></a> when creating new family name items? Makes it easier for others to add <a href="/wiki/Property:P1705" title="Property:P1705">native label <small dir="ltr">(P1705)</small></a> afterwards. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z-Minimum_for_family_name_items" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 21 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z-Minimum_for_family_name_items"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z-Minimum_for_family_name_items"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span>Thanks. I added English label, description and P1705. English is important as it's used as a fall-back for all other languages. The English description prevents multiple items for the same name to be create. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-27T11:55:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span>I removed a few where you seem to have added them to items you didn't create yourself and that already had a different P282 value <a class="external autonumber" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12607037&diff=983723839&oldid=890089361">[3]</a>. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-27T11:55:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-27T11:55:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-27T11:55:00.000Z-Jura1-2019-07-21T10:15:00.000Z"></span></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="épouse" data-mw-thread-id="h-épouse-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z"><span id=".C3.A9pouse"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-épouse-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z"></span>épouse<span data-mw-comment-end="h-épouse-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: épouse"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-épouse"></span>On <a href="/wiki/Q65567017" title="Q65567017">Q65567017</a>, I replaced "Bestel Épouse Courault" with the two family name and had it deleted. In the meantime, I noticed that there are more of them: <a href="/wiki/Special:Search/%C3%A9pouse_family_name" title="Special:Search/épouse family name">Special:Search/épouse family name</a>. I think the same should be done there. If you could try to avoid creating these in the future, that would be helpful. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-épouse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-épouse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-24T17:56:00.000Z-épouse"></span></li> <li>Il en reste également en abrévié: <a href="/wiki/Special:Search/%C3%A9p._family_name" title="Special:Search/ép. family name">Special:Search/ép. family name</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Caps" data-mw-thread-id="h-Caps-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Caps-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z"></span>Caps<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Caps-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Caps"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z-Caps"></span>I wonder if there isn't a problem with caps in the reference you used for family names. "De" seems to be spelled always with a capital "D". While it may be correct in some, it isn't necessarily. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z-Caps" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:59, 25 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z-Caps"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T04:59:00.000Z-Caps"></span> </p><p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="string_length" data-mw-thread-id="h-string_length-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-string_length-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z"></span>string length<span data-mw-comment-end="h-string_length-Minimum_for_family_name_items-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: string length"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z-string_length"></span>For <a href="/wiki/Q65592380" title="Q65592380">Bruno Massias Jurien de la Graviere <small>(Q65592380)</small></a>, I found that the full name would be "Bruno Massias Jurien de La Gravière" (see <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurien_de_la_Gravi%C3%A8re#Personnalités" class="extiw" title="fr:Jurien de la Gravière">fr:Jurien_de_la_Gravière#Personnalités</a>). Maybe <a href="/wiki/Q65110080" title="Q65110080">Massias Jurien de la Gravière <small>(Q65110080)</small></a> got cut-off after 25 characters. --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z-string_length" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 25 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z-string_length"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2019-07-25T05:29:00.000Z-string_length"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="André_Fabre_(Q60185464)" data-mw-thread-id="h-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z"><span id="Andr.C3.A9_Fabre_.28Q60185464.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z"></span>André Fabre (Q60185464)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: André Fabre (Q60185464)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"></span>Bonjour. Merci de cesser vos révocations sur cet élément, car vos modifications ne sont pas justifiées : l'élément était initialement dédié à l'élu gardois, c'est vous qui êtes venu l'amalgamer, de façon erronée, avec l'homme politique tarnais. Créez donc un élément séparé. En vous remerciant de votre bonne compréhension, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-27T09:02:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"></span> </p> <hr/> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"></span>Bonjour, <a href="/wiki/Q65583402" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65583402">cet élément</a> à votre initiative fait doublon avec <a href="/wiki/Q60881373" title="Q60881373">cet autre</a>, que j'avais créé auparavant. Merci donc de les fusionner. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z-André_Fabre_(Q60185464)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z"></span>Voici encore d'autres doublons : <ol><li><a href="/wiki/Q58164583" title="Q58164583">Pierre Mauméjean <small>(Q58164583)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65592544" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65592544">Pierre Mauméjean <small>(Q65592544)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65582102" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65582102">Jean-Paul Franc <small>(Q65582102)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q50295811" title="Q50295811">Jean-Paul Franc <small>(Q50295811)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q58599547" class="mw-redirect" title="Q58599547">Pilar Chaleyssin <small>(Q58599547)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65572231" title="Q65572231">Pilar Chaleyssin <small>(Q65572231)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65603233" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65603233">Joël Tena <small>(Q65603233)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q58165669" title="Q58165669">Joël Tena <small>(Q58165669)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q58174805" title="Q58174805">Freddy Cerda <small>(Q58174805)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65572049" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65572049">Freddy Cerda <small>(Q65572049)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65575556" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65575556">Robert Crauste <small>(Q65575556)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q58164845" title="Q58164845">Robert Crauste <small>(Q58164845)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65597994" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65597994">Jacky Rey <small>(Q65597994)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60178357" title="Q60178357">Jacky Rey <small>(Q60178357)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65570403" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65570403">André Brundu <small>(Q65570403)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60073017" title="Q60073017">André Brundu <small>(Q60073017)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65602109" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65602109">Guy Schramm <small>(Q65602109)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60073855" title="Q60073855">Guy Schramm <small>(Q60073855)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65588003" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65588003">Jean-François Laurent <small>(Q65588003)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60167837" title="Q60167837">Jean-François Laurent <small>(Q60167837)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65583985" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65583985">Théos Granchi <small>(Q65583985)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60406494" title="Q60406494">Théos Granchi <small>(Q60406494)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q58599130" title="Q58599130">Philippe Gras <small>(Q58599130)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65584051" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65584051">Philippe Gras <small>(Q65584051)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q65579784" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65579784">Gérard Duplan <small>(Q65579784)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q60055976" title="Q60055976">Gérard Duplan <small>(Q60055976)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q58177139" title="Q58177139">Joffrey Léon <small>(Q58177139)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65590391" class="mw-redirect" title="Q65590391">Joffrey Léon <small>(Q65590391)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q58600180" class="mw-redirect" title="Q58600180">René Balana <small>(Q58600180)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q65564510" title="Q65564510">René Balana <small>(Q65564510)</small></a>,</li> <li>etc. (Je n'ai regardé que les maires de deux cantons du Gard, sur les 23 existants, car je n'ai pas que cela à faire.)</li></ol></dd> <dd>C'est problématique car ils semblent assez nombreux. Pourriez-vous SVP vérifier que les éléments n'existent pas déjà avant de les créer, comme c'est demandé <u>de manière explicite</u> sur <a href="/wiki/Special:NewItem" title="Special:NewItem">Special:NewItem</a> ("<i>Please make sure that the item you want to create [...] <a href="/wiki/Special:Search" title="Special:Search"> doesn't already exist</a>.</i>") ? Si vous l'aviez fait, nous aurions évité ce bazar. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T13:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z"></span>Veuillez noter que j'attends une réponse de votre part (ce qui serait la moindre des choses). Merci d'avance, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 8 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-07-30T14:17:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z"></span>Merci de votre réponse, c'est un premier pas. C'est normal de faire des erreurs, mais ça ne l'est pas de ne pas prendre les précautions d'usage lorsqu'on s'attelle à créer un certain nombre d'éléments. Maintenant, je vous saurais gré de procéder à la fusion des doublons que je vous ai signalés. Merci d'avance, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:16:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-13T07:14:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z"></span>Je vois que vous avez fait plusieurs fusions ; je me suis occupé des quelques autres. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237" title="Special:Contributions/86.227.91.237">86.227.91.237</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-13T07:14:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:14, 13 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-13T07:14:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-86.227.91.237-2019-08-13T07:14:00.000Z-86.227.91.237-2019-08-08T20:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Éléments_"maire_de_X"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Éléments_"maire_de_X"-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z"><span id=".C3.89l.C3.A9ments_.22maire_de_X.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Éléments_"maire_de_X"-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z"></span>Éléments "maire de X"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Éléments_"maire_de_X"-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Éléments "maire de X""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z-Éléments_"maire_de_X""></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Comme tu l'a peut-être vu, je suis en train d'ajouter les libellés sur les éléments "maire de X". J'ai déjà fait l'anglais et l'allemand, je suis en train de finir l'italien et le breton (4 langues où il n'y a quasiment pas de pièges). Je vais continuer continuer à faire les libellés d'autres langues au fur et à mesure de mes disponibilités puis je passerais sans doute aux descriptions ; si tu as des remarques, idées ou des suggestions, n'hésite pas à me le dire. </p><p>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z-Éléments_"maire_de_X"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z-Éléments_"maire_de_X""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2019-08-07T16:46:00.000Z-Éléments_"maire_de_X""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deux_questions_subsidiaires" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deux_questions_subsidiaires-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deux_questions_subsidiaires-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"></span>Deux questions subsidiaires<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deux_questions_subsidiaires-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Deux questions subsidiaires"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z-Deux_questions_subsidiaires"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>indiquer sur l'élément d'un maire qu'il est aussi conseiller municipal de sa commune n'est-il pas redondant, puisque, en vertu de l'article L2122-1 du <a href="/wiki/Q2981581" title="Q2981581">Code général des collectivités territoriales</a>, le maire est nécessairement choisi parmi les membres du conseil municipal ? </p><p>Je vois par ailleurs via ma LdS que la propriété <a href="/wiki/Property:P1268" title="Property:P1268">représente</a> est utilisée comme qualificatif sur des déclarations de mandats de conseillers communautaires. Cela me semble correct, mais il me semble que <a href="/wiki/Property:P768" title="Property:P768">circonscription électorale</a> serait plus précis, non ? </p><p>Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc">Nomen ad hoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User talk:Nomen ad hoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z-Deux_questions_subsidiaires" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z-Deux_questions_subsidiaires"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z-Deux_questions_subsidiaires"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-10-13T15:25:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nomen_ad_hoc" title="User:Nomen ad hoc"><bdi>Nomen ad hoc</bdi></a>: c'est toujours utile à connaître, dans La Voix du Nord, on apprend régulièrement qu'avant d'avoir été maire un élu a souvent été conseiller municipal depuis plus ou moins longtemps.</dd> <dd>Arpyia et Nomen ad hoc, j'ai modifié les infoboxes pour que les articles des communes polonaises et italiennes puissent afficher le maire en place si celui-ci est mentionné dans Wikidata. J'ai été sidéré aujourd'hui de voir que des articles de communes italiennes avaient été créés il y a treize ans et que le tableau en dur listant les maires n'avait jamais été rempli. Je poursuis mon œuvre sur les maires de ma région. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-10-13T15:25:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:25, 13 October 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-10-13T15:25:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2019-10-13T15:25:00.000Z-Nomen_ad_hoc-2019-08-25T16:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z"></span>Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Community Insights Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi Arpyia, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is asking for your feedback in a survey about your experience with Wikidata and Wikimedia. The purpose of this survey is to learn how well the Foundation is supporting your work on wiki and how we can change or improve things in the future. The opinions you share will directly affect the current and future work of the Wikimedia Foundation. </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(wikidata,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-10T17:38:00.000Z-Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z"></span>Reminder: Community Insights Survey<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Reminder: Community Insights Survey"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="plainlinks mw-content-ltr" lang="en" dir="ltr"> <p><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span>Share your experience in this survey</b> </p><p>Hi Arpyia, </p><p>A couple of weeks ago, we invited you to take the Community Insights Survey. It is the Wikimedia Foundation’s annual survey of our global communities. We want to learn how well we support your work on wiki. We are 10% towards our goal for participation. If you have not already taken the survey, you can help us reach our goal! <b>Your voice matters to us.</b> </p><p>Please take 15 to 25 minutes to <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0pSrrkJAKVRXPpj?Target=CI2019List(wikidata,act5)">give your feedback through this survey</a></b>. It is available in various languages. </p><p>This survey is hosted by a third-party and <a class="external text" href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights_2019_Survey_Privacy_Statement">governed by this privacy statement</a> (in English). </p><p>Find <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Insights/Frequent_questions" class="extiw" title="m:Community Insights/Frequent questions">more information about this project</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="mailto:surveys@wikimedia.org">Email us</a> if you have any questions, or if you don't want to receive future messages about taking this survey. </p><p>Sincerely, </p> </div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:RMaung_(WMF)" title="User:RMaung (WMF)">RMaung (WMF)</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RMaung_(WMF)-2019-09-20T19:54:00.000Z-Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bonne_année" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bonne_année-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z"><span id="Bonne_ann.C3.A9e"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bonne_année-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z"></span>Bonne année<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bonne_année-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Bonne année"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z-Bonne_année"></span>Tu es sans aucun doute l'un des contributeurs de l'année 2019. Je te souhaite bonne année et espère que tu seras prochainement de retour. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z-Bonne_année" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 1 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z-Bonne_année"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-01-01T11:22:00.000Z-Bonne_année"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Barbasso_Bruas" data-mw-thread-id="h-Barbasso_Bruas-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Barbasso_Bruas-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z"></span>Barbasso Bruas<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Barbasso_Bruas-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Barbasso Bruas"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span>What is that supposed to mean? → <a href="/wiki/Q83293596" title="Q83293596">Q83293596</a>. Best regards, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HarryN%C2%BA2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HarryNº2 (page does not exist)">HarryNº2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarryN%C2%BA2" title="User talk:HarryNº2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:23:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:28:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span>Here the same → <a href="/wiki/Q83293596" title="Q83293596">Q83293596</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HarryN%C2%BA2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HarryNº2 (page does not exist)">HarryNº2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarryN%C2%BA2" title="User talk:HarryNº2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:28:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:28:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:28:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:31:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span>And here → <a href="/wiki/Q83293812" title="Q83293812">Q83293812</a> and here → <a href="/wiki/Q83293677" title="Q83293677">Q83293677</a> and here → <a href="/wiki/Q83293695" title="Q83293695">Q83293695</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HarryN%C2%BA2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HarryNº2 (page does not exist)">HarryNº2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarryN%C2%BA2" title="User talk:HarryNº2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:31:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:31:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarryNº2-2020-01-22T19:31:00.000Z-Barbasso_Bruas"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_pour_Arpyia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_pour_Arpyia-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_pour_Arpyia-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z"></span>Question pour Arpyia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_pour_Arpyia-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Question pour Arpyia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Leonardo_José_Raimundo-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z-Question_pour_Arpyia"></span>Arpyia, pourquoi avez-vous inversé la description "institution éducatif avec foque en un ou très peux champes académiques"? Ma description était correcte. C'est comme ça que s'écris en français. Veuillez consulter mon niveau de français sur Wikipédia, Wiktionnaire, Wikinotices, Wikilivres, Wikidata, Wikimedia Incubator et Meta-Wiki. Je vais même le publier sur Wikisource, Wikiversité et Wikivoyage, mais j'attendrai de terminer la création d'entrées avec des livres de la Bible en grec ancien sur Wikimedia Incubator pour ce faire. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Leonardo_Jos%C3%A9_Raimundo" title="User:Leonardo José Raimundo">Leonardo José Raimundo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Leonardo_Jos%C3%A9_Raimundo" title="User talk:Leonardo José Raimundo"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Leonardo_José_Raimundo-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z-Question_pour_Arpyia" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Leonardo_José_Raimundo-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z-Question_pour_Arpyia"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Leonardo_José_Raimundo-2020-02-02T21:58:00.000Z-Question_pour_Arpyia"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"><span id="Discussion_.C3.A0_Wikidata:Project_chat"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Discussion à <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat" title="Wikidata:Project chat">Wikidata:Project chat</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Discussion à Wikidata:Project chat"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"></span>Pour info: <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Duplicates_about_French_mayors" title="Wikidata:Project chat">Wikidata:Project_chat#Duplicates_about_French_mayors</a> (si le ping n'a pas marché). --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 12 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-02-14T09:52:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"></span>Arpyia, je sais bien qu'il y a une école de Wikidata qui le fait, mais il n'est pas pratique de hâcher les fonctions de maire élection après élection. Personnellement je préfère qu'une source soit indiquée à une nouvelle élection. Ça va causer des soucis d'affichage dans les infoboxes sur Wikidata, et ça va être trop en longueur pour les maires qui ont un article sur Wikipédia. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-02-14T09:52:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-02-14T09:52:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-02-14T09:52:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-02-12T08:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-05-24T07:28:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"></span>Bonjour, je me permets de vous signaler ce doublon à fusionner ː Q63399387 et Q64825926. Merci d'avance et cordialement, 86.193.172.227 </p><p>Ça n'a pas de sens de retirer les fonctions de conseillers municipaux. <a href="/wiki/User:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick">Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:J%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-G%C3%BCnther-Heinz_J%C3%A4hnick" title="User talk:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-05-24T07:28:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 24 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-05-24T07:28:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jérémy-Günther-Heinz_Jähnick-2020-05-24T07:28:00.000Z-Discussion_à_Wikidata:Project_chat"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs_établissements" data-mw-thread-id="h-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"><span id="syst.C3.A8me_national_d.27identification_et_du_r.C3.A9pertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs_.C3.A9tablissements"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"></span>système national d'identification et du répertoire des entreprises et de leurs établissements<span data-mw-comment-end="h-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: système national d'identification et du répertoire des entreprises et de leurs établissements"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>si j'ai bien compris vous avez utilisé le <a href="/wiki/Q3509449" title="Q3509449">SIRENE <small>(Q3509449)</small></a> pour compléter la <a href="/wiki/Property:P1454" title="Property:P1454">forme juridique</a> de certaines organisations. </p><p>Dans cette classification, la notion d'"<a href="https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Q2872764" class="extiw" title="q:Q2872764">Q:Q2872764</a>" me semble avoir une définition trop inclusive, alors qu'il n'y en a que 26 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.vie-publique.fr/fiches/20238-autorites-administratives-independantes-aai-et-api">https://www.vie-publique.fr/fiches/20238-autorites-administratives-independantes-aai-et-api</a>). </p><p>Est ce qu'on pourrait trouver un autre élément qui correspondrait à la réalité de ce qui est appelé "autorité administrative indépendante" par cette source ? </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Tiraden" title="User:Tiraden">Tiraden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiraden" title="User talk:Tiraden"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z-système_national_d'identification_et_du_répertoire_des_entreprises_et_de_leurs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour,</dd> <dd>En réponse à votre message : oui, pas de problème. Il y a plusieurs façons de définir les autorités administratives indépendantes, et je partage l'idée de distinguer plus clairement les notions. Je l'ai d'ailleurs fait pour d'autres catégories. Je viens de créer <a href="/wiki/Q87913986" title="Q87913986">Independent public authority <small>(Q87913986)</small></a> pour la catégorie SIRENE et je vais y déplacer progressivement les informations. Cela permettra de faire vivre plusieurs classifications en parallèle.</dd> <dd>Je ne crois pas vous avoir déjà croisé : avez-vous un domaine de contribution particulier ?</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-18T19:07:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour,</dd> <dd>Tout est maintenant à sa place.</dd> <dd>Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 20 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-18T19:29:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z"></span>bonjour,</dd> <dd>dans la liste issue du répertoire on a plusieurs choses : <ul><li>autorités administratives indépendantes</li> <li>autorités publiques indépendantes</li> <li>institutions et juridictions (Cour des comptes, Cour de cassation ...)</li></ul></dd> <dd>Donc on pourrait par exemple renommer <a href="/wiki/Q87913986" title="Q87913986">Independent public authority <small>(Q87913986)</small></a> "Administrations indépendantes, institutions et juridictions".</dd> <dd>Par contre ça me paraîtrait dommage que dans le cas des <a href="/wiki/Q2872764" title="Q2872764">French independent administrative authority <small>(Q2872764)</small></a>, cette propriété n'apparaissent plus dans les organisations concernées. Donc on peut soit laisser les deux (ce que j'ai fait ici par exemple <a href="/wiki/Q687939" title="Q687939">French competition authority <small>(Q687939)</small></a>), soit considérer que <a href="/wiki/Q2872764" title="Q2872764">French independent administrative authority <small>(Q2872764)</small></a> est une <a href="/wiki/Property:P279" title="Property:P279">subclass of <small dir="ltr">(P279)</small></a> de <a href="/wiki/Q87913986" title="Q87913986">Independent public authority <small>(Q87913986)</small></a>.</dd> <dd>et pour me présenter, je contribue sur wikidata en particulier sur les organisations publiques et les hauts fonctionnaires. Mais mon activité principale est plutôt Wikipédia où je contribue depuis 2006.</dd> <dd>cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Tiraden" title="User:Tiraden">Tiraden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiraden" title="User talk:Tiraden"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 21 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-20T09:39:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour,</dd> <dd>Le titre de <a href="/wiki/Q87913986" title="Q87913986">Independent public authority <small>(Q87913986)</small></a> est le nom de la catégorie tel qu'indiqué dans la source, donc il ne faut pas le changer. Pour la même raison il ne faut pas modifier la hiérarchie des sous-classes et surtout pas mélanger plusieurs classifications, sinon on ne va plus rien retrouver.</dd> <dd>La nomenclature SIRENE est une source très utile car elle a l'avantage d'être structurée, exhaustive, plutôt à jour et officielle. Elle a aussi des inconvénients et si elle ne convient pas à vos besoins, rien ne vous oblige à l'utiliser. Donc oui pour ajouter d'autres classifications « concurrentes », idéalement avec leur source également.</dd> <dd>Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z-Tiraden-2020-03-21T10:03:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-22T10:35:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z"></span>pour moi, si, il faut la changer car la Cour des comptes n'est pas une autorité indépendante. Je vous ai indiqué ci dessus une autre source qui donne la définition précise et la liste des autorités indépendantes. Il y en a 26 et pas une de plus.</dd> <dd>Peut être que vous préféreriez si <a href="/wiki/Q87913986" title="Q87913986">Independent public authority <small>(Q87913986)</small></a> était renommé "autorité administrative ou publique indépendante selon l'INSEE". <a href="/wiki/User:Tiraden" title="User:Tiraden">Tiraden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tiraden" title="User talk:Tiraden"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Tiraden-2020-03-22T10:35:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tiraden-2020-03-22T10:35:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tiraden-2020-03-22T10:35:00.000Z-Arpyia-2020-03-22T09:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_"Academie"_entries?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_"Academie"_entries?"><span id="Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_.22Academie.22_entries.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_"Academie"_entries?"></span>Why remove all the P6413 properties from "Academie" entries?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_remove_all_the_P6413_properties_from_"Academie"_entries?"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Why remove all the P6413 properties from "Academie" entries?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Good morning, </p><p>Could you please explain why you removed the P6413 property from french academies? I do not understand why you would do that O_o </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://w.wiki/Kk2">https://w.wiki/Kk2</a> </p><p>Nathann </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tressaint_(Q86708000)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tressaint_(Q86708000)-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z"><span id="Tressaint_.28Q86708000.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tressaint_(Q86708000)-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q86708000" title="Q86708000">Tressaint <small>(Q86708000)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tressaint_(Q86708000)-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Tressaint (Q86708000)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z-Tressaint_(Q86708000)"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>L'élément <a href="/wiki/Q86708000" title="Q86708000">Tressaint <small>(Q86708000)</small></a> est-il à corriger ou bien à supprimer ? Dans tout les cas, pourrais-tu t'en occuper ? </p><p>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z-Tressaint_(Q86708000)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 24 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z-Tressaint_(Q86708000)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2020-03-24T20:56:00.000Z-Tressaint_(Q86708000)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Embassy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Embassy-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Embassy-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"></span>Embassy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Embassy-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Embassy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z-Embassy"></span>Hello Arpyia! There is no French embassy in Guyana, only a French ambassador who has been accredited. This element does not exist in reality: <a href="/wiki/Q88157732" title="Q88157732">Q88157732</a>. See also: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://sr.ambafrance.org/-English-">https://sr.ambafrance.org/-English-</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Palotabar%C3%A1t" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Palotabarát">Palotabarát</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Palotabar%C3%A1t" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Palotabarát"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z-Embassy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z-Embassy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z-Embassy"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2020-04-09T15:12:00.000Z-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"></span>Hello,</dd></dl> <dl><dd>It's not really an embassy in a material sense, but there is a public organization named "ambassade de France au Guyana", registered in the SIRENE database as I noted. It's probably nothing more than a legal vehicle needed for administrative purposes.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2020-04-09T15:12:00.000Z-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2020-04-09T15:12:00.000Z-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2020-04-09T15:12:00.000Z-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T08:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T22:25:00.000Z-Embassy"></span>Hallo! I understand. If it's not an embassy, don't have a name <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Q3917681" title="Q3917681">embassy <small>(Q3917681)</small></a>. Let's have a name, for example: <a href="/wiki/Q1125239" title="Q1125239">Hungarian public body <small>(Q1125239)</small></a>.<br/> If the embassy has closed, have a name <a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small dir="ltr">(P31)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Q80905563" title="Q80905563">defunct diplomatic mission <small>(Q80905563)</small></a><br/> (The SIREN item was made in 1981!). OK? <a href="/wiki/User:Palotabar%C3%A1t" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Palotabarát">Palotabarát</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Palotabar%C3%A1t" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Palotabarát"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T22:25:00.000Z-Embassy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T22:25:00.000Z-Embassy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Palotabarát-2020-04-09T22:25:00.000Z-Embassy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2014_ou_2012" data-mw-thread-id="h-2014_ou_2012-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2014_ou_2012-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z"></span>2014 ou 2012<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2014_ou_2012-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: 2014 ou 2012"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z-2014_ou_2012"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Sur <a href="/wiki/Q622477" title="Q622477">Peumerit <small>(Q622477)</small></a>, pour le nom officiel (<a href="/wiki/Property:P1448" title="Property:P1448">official name <small dir="ltr">(P1448)</small></a>), tu as indiqué un changement en 2014 mais le décret date de 2012. Je ne vois aucune raison pour ce délai de 2 ans, serait-ce juste une faute de frappe ou rateré-je quelque chose ? </p><p>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z-2014_ou_2012" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 22 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z-2014_ou_2012"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2020-04-22T14:46:00.000Z-2014_ou_2012"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Troarn_et_Sannerville" data-mw-thread-id="h-Troarn_et_Sannerville-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Troarn_et_Sannerville-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Troarn et Sannerville<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Troarn_et_Sannerville-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Troarn et Sannerville"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Olyon01-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z-Troarn_et_Sannerville"></span>Bonjour, Pourquoi avoir séparé <a href="/wiki/Q274873" title="Q274873">Troarn <small>(Q274873)</small></a> de <a href="/wiki/Q97722554" title="Q97722554">Troarn <small>(Q97722554)</small></a> et de la meme facon <a href="/wiki/Q388760" title="Q388760">Sannerville <small>(Q388760)</small></a> de <a href="/wiki/Q97722088" title="Q97722088">Sannerville <small>(Q97722088)</small></a>, ce sont les même communes ? Fin 2019, c'est justement un retour à l'état d'avant 2017. <a href="/wiki/User:Olyon01" title="User:Olyon01">Olyon01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Olyon01" title="User talk:Olyon01"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Olyon01-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z-Troarn_et_Sannerville" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 27 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Olyon01-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z-Troarn_et_Sannerville"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Olyon01-2020-07-27T13:22:00.000Z-Troarn_et_Sannerville"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"><span id="Wrong_family_names.2C_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_N.C3.A9e_Mercier"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Wrong family names, e.g. Monique Rosset-Lanchet Née Mercier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Wrong family names, e.g. Monique Rosset-Lanchet Née Mercier"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier"></span>Please note that you do not create such family names: <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q98219849&oldid=1253489328">Monique Rosset-Lanchet Née Mercier</a>. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HarryN%C2%BA2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HarryNº2 (page does not exist)">HarryNº2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarryN%C2%BA2" title="User talk:HarryNº2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 12 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z-Wrong_family_names,_e.g._Monique_Rosset-Lanchet_Née_Mercier"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:45:00.000Z-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span>Same nonsense here <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q98220450&oldid=1253496586">Garcia Née Guigon</a> or here <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q98221732&oldid=1253512665">Morrier Ép.Chretien</a> and many more. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HarryN%C2%BA2&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HarryNº2 (page does not exist)">HarryNº2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HarryN%C2%BA2" title="User talk:HarryNº2"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:45:00.000Z-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:45:00.000Z-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:45:00.000Z-HarryNº2-2020-08-12T20:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"><span id="Maires_en_doublon.2C_suite_.28et.2C_esp.C3.A9rons-le.2C_fin.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"></span>Maires en doublon, suite (et, espérons-le, fin)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Maires en doublon, suite (et, espérons-le, fin)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>je déplore de constater l'apparition de nouveaux doublons dans les éléments sur les maires de France. Voyez par exemple le maire de Clarensac, Patrick Gervais : j'avais créé le 16 mars <a href="/wiki/Q87761565" title="Q87761565">Patrick Gervais <small>(Q87761565)</small></a> ; or le voici affublé, le 11 août, d'un second élément : <a href="/wiki/Q98248357" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98248357">Patrick Gervais <small>(Q98248357)</small></a>. Ou encore : Patrick Bénézech qui est à la fois <a href="/wiki/Q87760983" title="Q87760983">Patrick Bénézech <small>(Q87760983)</small></a> (16 mars) et <a href="/wiki/Q98236071" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98236071">Patrick Bénézech <small>(Q98236071)</small></a> (10 août). Etc. </p><p>Pourriez-vous SVP fusionner les éléments surnuméraires ? Et trouver le moyen de cesser ces "scissions" intempestives ? </p><p>En espérant que ce message pourra amener une résolution définitive du problème. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.184.112.99" title="Special:Contributions/92.184.112.99">92.184.112.99</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 23 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"></span>@92.184.112.99: Ce n'est pas possible de l'éviter entièrement. De mémoire, vous (92.184.112.99) en avez trouvé pour lesquels vous saviez qu'il s'agissait de la même personne, mais les éléments pour disponibles ici ne le permettait pas avec certitude. Je vous suggère de les fusionner directement si vous en trouvez d'autres (voir <a href="/wiki/Help:Merge/fr" title="Help:Merge/fr">Help:Merge/fr</a>). --- <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jura1" title="User talk:Jura1">Jura</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 23 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z-92.184.112.99-2020-08-23T12:42:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z"></span>(Désolé, je suis sûr une plage IP mobile aujourd'hui.)</small> <a href="/wiki/User:Jura1" title="User:Jura1"><span title="user page of Jura1">Jura1</span></a> : pourquoi cela ne serait-il pas possible ? <a href="/wiki/Special:NewItem" title="Special:NewItem">Special:NewItem</a> ne demande-t-il pas : "<i>make sure that the item you want to create [...] doesn't already exist</i>" ? Ou alors les maires font exception à ce réquisit de base ?</dd> <dd>Je ne comprends pas non plus pourquoi l'identification n'aurait pas été possible "avec certitude". Encore une fois, il n'y a qu'un Patrick Gervais élu maire de Clarensac en 2020 (sauf peut-être dans des mondes parallèles). Saisir son nom dans la barre de recherche en haut à droite aurait permis de trouver son élément et ainsi s'assurer qu'il était déjà référencé. Idem pour l'autre exemple, etc., et <i>bis repetita</i>.</dd> <dd>Et enfin, je pense que c'est plutôt à celui/celle qui a créé des doublons (surtout quand ils sont un certain nombre et suivent le même <i>pattern</i>) d'y remédier. Il me semble qu'on a déjà assez de pain sur la planche comme cela par ailleurs.</dd> <dd>Merci à tous deux pour votre bonne intelligence.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.184.102.89" title="Special:Contributions/92.184.102.89">92.184.102.89</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 23 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z-Jura1-2020-08-23T14:19:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2020-08-29T18:54:00.000Z-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z"></span>Je confirme que le repérage automatique (car on parle bien ici de création automatique) de doublons <i>en amont</i> et avec certitude est une tâche impossible et même à la main c'est souvent très difficile (il n'est pas rare que des homonymes aient les mêmes fonctions, voir les mêmes années de naissance et de décès). Ceci dit, c'est effectivement une bonne pratique de faire une vérification <i>en aval</i> de la création automatique pour essayer de repérer de tels doublons. Mais ce n'est pas une tâche automatisable ; par exemple, le nom du maire de Mus est-il Patrick Bénézech ou Patrick Benezech, c'est le genre de subtilité qu'un automatisme ne peut pas résoudre. Le mieux, chère IP est donc de les signaler sans agressivité pour permettre au mieux la bonne intelligence que vous appelez.</dd> <dd>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2020-08-29T18:54:00.000Z-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2020-08-29T18:54:00.000Z-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2020-08-29T18:54:00.000Z-92.184.102.89-2020-08-23T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>En vérifiant les noms cités dans cette liste <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élections_municipales_de_2020_dans_le_Gard#Maires_sortants_et_maires_élus">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élections_municipales_de_2020_dans_le_Gard#Maires_sortants_et_maires_élus</a>, j'ai découvert plusieurs autres doublons dont vous êtes responsable (je m'en bornerai là pour les maires du Gard). Merci donc de fusionner : </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q87760980" title="Q87760980">Éric Trémoulet <small>(Q87760980)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q98248359" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98248359">Éric Trémoulet <small>(Q98248359)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q98248360" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98248360">Rémy Bachevalier <small>(Q98248360)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q87761622" title="Q87761622">Rémy Bachevalier <small>(Q87761622)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q98236080" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98236080">Jean-François Durand-Coutelle <small>(Q98236080)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q87762979" title="Q87762979">Jean-François Durand-Coutelle <small>(Q87762979)</small></a>,</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q98236032" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98236032">Olivier Fabregoul <small>(Q98236032)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q79404208" title="Q79404208">Olivier Fabregoul <small>(Q79404208)</small></a>.</li></ul> <p><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/92.184.102.21" title="Special:Contributions/92.184.102.21">92.184.102.21</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z-Maires_en_doublon,_suite_(et,_espérons-le,_fin)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2020-09-01T09:48:00.000Z-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z"></span>Merci du signalement. <span typeof="mw:File"><span title="✓"><img alt="✓" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/15px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/23px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/30px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b> fusion faite. Au passage, cela prend moins de temps de fusionner que de laisser ce message, même si on considère qu'Arpyia est responsable, l'efficacité et la simplicité c'est de faire la fusion soi-même. Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2020-09-01T09:48:00.000Z-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:48, 1 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2020-09-01T09:48:00.000Z-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2020-09-01T09:48:00.000Z-92.184.102.21-2020-08-31T14:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community" data-mw-thread-id="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z"><span id=".5BWMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats.5D_Meetings_with_the_Wikidata_community"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z"></span>[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community<span data-mw-comment-end="h-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: [WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata community"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"></span>The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is organizing a call for feedback about community selection processes between February 1 and March 14. While the Wikimedia Foundation and the movement have grown about five times in the past ten years, the Board’s structure and processes have remained basically the same. As the Board is designed today, we have a problem of capacity, performance, and lack of representation of the movement’s diversity. Our current processes to select individual volunteer and affiliate seats have some limitations. Direct elections tend to favor candidates from the leading language communities, regardless of how relevant their skills and experience might be in serving as a Board member, or contributing to the ability of the Board to perform its specific responsibilities. It is also a fact that the current processes have favored volunteers from North America and Western Europe. In the upcoming months, we need to renew three community seats and appoint three more community members in the new seats. This call for feedback is to see what processes can we all collaboratively design to promote and choose candidates that represent our movement and are prepared with the experience, skills, and insight to perform as trustees? </p><p>In this regard, two rounds of feedback meetings are being hosted to collect feedback from the Wikidata community. Two rounds are being hosted with the same agenda, to accomodate people from various time zones across the globe. We will be discussing ideas proposed by the Board and the community to address the above mentioned problems. Please sign-up according to whatever is most comfortable to you. You are welcome to participate in both as well! </p> <ul><li>Round 1 - Feb 24, 4:00 pm UTC</li> <li>Round 2 - Mar 3, 4:00 am UTC</li> <li>Sign-up and meeting details: <i><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees/Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats/Conversations/Wikidata" class="extiw" title="m:Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees/Call for feedback: Community Board seats/Conversations/Wikidata">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees/Call for feedback: Community Board seats/Conversations/Wikidata</a></i></li></ul> <p>Also, please share this with other volunteers who might be interested in this. Let me know if you have any questions. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:KCVelaga_(WMF)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:KCVelaga (WMF) (page does not exist)">KCVelaga (WMF)</a>, <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KCVelaga_(WMF)-2021-02-21T14:32:00.000Z-[WMF_Board_of_Trustees_-_Call_for_feedback:_Community_Board_seats]_Meetings_with"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z"><span id="Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Nice work with the vaccination programmes!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Nice work with the vaccination programmes!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TiagoLubiana-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!"></span>Thank you! I saw you work in a couple items, I am taking a look at vaccinations and adding a few viz/maintenance queries at <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19/Portal/Pandemic_by_country">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19/Portal/Pandemic_by_country</a>. If you want to join forces/increment the queries it would be awesome. </p><p>If you want to join the <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19" title="Wikidata:WikiProject COVID-19">WikiProject_COVID-19</a>, you are more than welcome! It has not been super active, but it is a nice community. </p><p>Best, <a href="/wiki/User:TiagoLubiana" title="User:TiagoLubiana">TiagoLubiana</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TiagoLubiana" title="User talk:TiagoLubiana"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-TiagoLubiana-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TiagoLubiana-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TiagoLubiana-2021-03-25T18:14:00.000Z-Nice_work_with_the_vaccination_programmes!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Alain_ferrand_wikidata" data-mw-thread-id="h-Alain_ferrand_wikidata-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Alain_ferrand_wikidata-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span>Alain ferrand wikidata<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Alain_ferrand_wikidata-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Alain ferrand wikidata"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Albanc092-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z-Alain_ferrand_wikidata"></span>Hello could Ilu add to his wikidata resume tax evasion and false use of false Bcz I don’t know to add this all references are in page <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Albanc092&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Albanc092 (page does not exist)">Albanc092</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Albanc092&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Albanc092 (page does not exist)"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Albanc092-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z-Alain_ferrand_wikidata" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Albanc092-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z-Alain_ferrand_wikidata"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Albanc092-2022-02-14T23:54:00.000Z-Alain_ferrand_wikidata"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shadow_(Q112289275)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shadow_(Q112289275)-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z"><span id="Shadow_.28Q112289275.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shadow_(Q112289275)-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Q112289275" title="Q112289275">Shadow <small>(Q112289275)</small></a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shadow_(Q112289275)-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Shadow (Q112289275)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trade-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z-Shadow_(Q112289275)"></span>Hi, we usually keep software and mobile apps as seperate items. --<a href="/wiki/User:Trade" title="User:Trade">Trade</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trade" title="User talk:Trade"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Trade-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z-Shadow_(Q112289275)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trade-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z-Shadow_(Q112289275)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trade-2022-06-09T20:47:00.000Z-Shadow_(Q112289275)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merci_!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merci_!-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z"><span id="Merci_.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merci_!-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z"></span>Merci !<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merci_!-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Merci !"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Benoît_Prieur-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z-Merci_!"></span>Pour le travail formidable que tu fais en ce moment (et peut-être depuis longtemps) sur le secteur économique en France. Bravo et merci :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Beno%C3%AEt_Prieur" title="User:Benoît Prieur">Benoît</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Beno%C3%AEt_Prieur" title="User talk:Benoît Prieur">discussion</a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Benoît_Prieur-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z-Merci_!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:26, 11 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Benoît_Prieur-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z-Merci_!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Benoît_Prieur-2022-06-11T10:26:00.000Z-Merci_!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z"></span>Commune et commune et commune nouvelle<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Commune et commune et commune nouvelle"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Est-ce que <a href="/wiki/Q112226256" title="Q112226256">commune et commune nouvelle</a><sup>(Q112226256)</sup> n'est pas le même concept que <a href="/wiki/Q484170" title="Q484170">commune française</a><sup>(Q484170)</sup> ? Et si non, quelle est la différence ? Si j'en crois <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/information/2028129">« Commune » devient « Commune et commune nouvelle »</a> c'est juste le nouveau nom derrière le même concept, non ? <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2022-06-26T16:10:00.000Z-Commune_et_commune_et_commune_nouvelle"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"></span>Dunkerque and former Dunkerque<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Dunkerque and former Dunkerque"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque"></span>Bonjour Arpyia, Ça ne me semble pas être une bonne idée d'avoir transformé <a href="/wiki/Q45797" title="Q45797">Dunkerque (Q45797)</a> en une ville créée en 2010 et d'avoir créé <a href="/wiki/Q112289487" title="Q112289487">Dunkerque (Q112289487)</a> pour la ville existant entre 1978 et 2010 car : </p> <ul><li>cela rend incorrects les liens entre Dunkerque (Q45797) et les personnes nées ou mortes à Dunkerque avant 2010 (un exemple au hasard : <a href="/wiki/Q2896087" title="Q2896087">Q2896087</a>) ;</li> <li>la description de l'élément Wikidata n'ayant pas été modifiée pour indiquer cette date de 2010, on peut aussi créer des liens problématiques sans s'en rendre compte, comme je viens de le faire pour <a href="/wiki/Q112874391" title="Q112874391">Adolphe Néerman</a> né à l'ancienne-ancienne-Dunkerque en 1839 ;</li> <li>je n'ai pas vu d'élément correspondant à la ville de Dunkerque avant 1978 ;</li> <li>le principe de lien avec Wikipédia me pousse à considérer que comme il n'y a qu'une seule page « Dunkerque » sur Wikipédia, ça devrait aussi être le cas des éléments Wikidata (même si la page <a href="/wiki/Help:Merge/fr#Gérer_les_éléments_ayant_chacun_un_lien_vers_le_même_Wikipedia" title="Help:Merge/fr">Help:Merge/fr#Gérer_les_éléments_ayant_chacun_un_lien_vers_le_même_Wikipedia</a> n'est pas d'une clarté extrême à ce sujet, je ne suis donc pas sûr de cet argument).</li></ul> <p>Bref, l'absence de page Wikipédia sur les « anciennes versions » de Dunkerque me pousse donc à recommander une fusion de Q45797 et Q112289487, ce qui aura pour conséquence d'associer les deux numéros SIREN 215901836 et 200027159 à un unique élément Dunkerque, ce qui ne me semble pas poser problème. @<a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON"><bdi>VIGNERON</bdi></a>: Comme je vois que tu as commenté ci-dessus sur un sujet qui n'est peut-être pas si éloigné, ça vaut peut-être le coup d'avoir ton avis sur la question ? À défaut je demanderai au Bistro, comme recommandé sur <a href="/wiki/Help:Merge/fr" title="Help:Merge/fr">Help:Merge/fr</a>, si nous n'arrivons pas à trouver un consensus ici. Merci d'avance pour vos avis ! <a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp">FreeCorp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FreeCorp" title="User talk:FreeCorp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 3 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z-Dunkerque_and_former_Dunkerque"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp"><bdi>FreeCorp</bdi></a>: c'est compliqué mais le consensus est bien de garder des éléments séparés dès qu'il y a un changement important dans la commune (et indépendamment de ce que choisissent les projets Wikimédia), cf. les diverses discussions sur <a href="/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_France/Communes" title="Wikidata talk:WikiProject France/Communes">Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_France/Communes</a>.</dd> <dd>Par contre, sur la méthode, je suis d'accord que la séparation n'a pas été faite correctement, je ne sais pas trop comment débrouiller cela ; je me demande si le mieux et le plus simple ne serait pas de supprimer les changements et Q112289487 puis refaire à partir de zéro un élément pour la nouvelle commune depuis 2010.</dd> <dd>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z-FreeCorp-2022-07-03T11:48:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z"></span>Oui pas de problème s'il y a des choses à corriger. A force de faire et défaire on en perd son latin ! <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 3 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z-VIGNERON-2022-07-03T12:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FreeCorp-20230112072300-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Bonjour, je ne vois toujours pas de Dunkerque avant 1978 sur Wikidata.</dd> <dd>Serait-il possible que vous corrigiez le problème que vous avez créé ? Avez-vous besoin d'une source sur l'existence de Dunkerque avant 1978 ? <a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp">FreeCorp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FreeCorp" title="User talk:FreeCorp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-FreeCorp-20230112072300-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FreeCorp-20230112072300-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FreeCorp-20230112072300-Arpyia-2022-07-03T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="EHPAD" data-mw-thread-id="h-EHPAD-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-EHPAD-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z"></span>EHPAD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-EHPAD-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: EHPAD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Teolemon-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z-EHPAD"></span>Bon, je me suis fait griller sur les EHPAD (il me restait 1700 communes à matcher). </p><p>En tous cas, félicitations et merci pour l'import :-) J'avais aussi envie d'ajouter les dates d'ouverture. Je vais peut être me concentrer sur l'ajout des comptes de réseaux sociaux des EHPAD à la place, comme je l'ai fait pour les intercommunalités. </p> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:EHPADWD.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/EHPADWD.png/220px-EHPADWD.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="200" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/EHPADWD.png/330px-EHPADWD.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/EHPADWD.png/440px-EHPADWD.png 2x" data-file-width="756" data-file-height="686"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Teolemon" title="User:Teolemon">Teolemon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Teolemon" title="User talk:Teolemon"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Teolemon-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z-EHPAD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 3 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Teolemon-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z-EHPAD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Teolemon-2022-07-03T14:07:00.000Z-EHPAD"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?-20220831085400"><span id="M.C3.A2con.2C_cr.C3.A9.C3.A9e_en_1972_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?-20220831085400"></span>Mâcon, créée en 1972 ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?-20220831085400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Mâcon, créée en 1972 ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hsarrazin-20220831085400-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"></span>Bonjour, Mâcon existe depuis le moyen âge... </p><p>si tu as voulu faire un élément pour une commune <i>nouvelle</i>, il faudrait aussi créer l'élément correspondant à la commune <i>historique</i>... parce que là, tous les gens nés ou morts à Mâcon avant 1972 sont en violation de contrainte... </p><p>Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Hsarrazin" title="User:Hsarrazin">Hsarrazin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hsarrazin" title="User talk:Hsarrazin"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Hsarrazin-20220831085400-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hsarrazin-20220831085400-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hsarrazin-20220831085400-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20220831123000-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON"><bdi>VIGNERON</bdi></a>: car je pense qu'il s'agit du même problème que pour Dunkerque plus haut... </p> <dl><dd>Bonjour <a href="/wiki/User:Hsarrazin" title="User:Hsarrazin">Hsarrazin</a>,</dd> <dd>Merci pour le signalement. Il faut que je regarde plus précisément pour faire le tri. On n'en a pas encore fini des affaires de fusion... <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20220831123000-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20220831123000-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20220831123000-Mâcon,_créée_en_1972_?"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaféBuzz-20230612103800-Arpyia-20220831123000"></span>Bonjour @<a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a>. Même probème avec <a href="/wiki/Q209777" title="Q209777">Q209777</a> (Saint-Gaudens, Haute-Garonne), « créé » en 2008, ça ne va pas du tout... Je pense qu'il faudrait envisager d'utiliser une autre propriété (créer une nouvelle entité me semble lourd, difficile à gérer et je ne pense pas que faire la distinction soit justifié ici, mais je peux me tromper) car là ce n'est pas du tout adapté.</dd> <dd>Beaucoup de villes et villages ont une histoire de plusieurs siècles, un changement de statut légal ne justifie certainement pas de créer une entité différente à chaque fois.</dd></dl> <dl><dd>Aussi, il ne faut pas oublier que l'objet de Wikidata est de centraliser les informations des projets Wikimédia. Je pense qu'aucune Wikipédia n'a créé un article séparé sur « Saint-Gaudens, commune nouvelle fondée en 2008 », l'article de frwp considère que Saint-Gaudens apparaît en tant que bourg au XIXe siècle, je suppose que les autres interwikis ont une optique similaire. Donc la logique voudrait que l'item wikidata correspondant fasse de même. Certes la commune, en tant qu'entité légale, n'apparait pas si tôt, mais l'entité associée à l'item oui. Le mieux est probablement d'utiliser un ensemble de propriétés (j'ignore lesquelles ni même si elles existent) pour gérer cela, ou à la rigueur de créer de nouveaux items (dont un pourra porter 2008 comme date de fondation). <a href="/wiki/User:Caf%C3%A9Buzz" title="User:CaféBuzz">CaféBuzz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Caf%C3%A9Buzz" title="User talk:CaféBuzz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-CaféBuzz-20230612103800-Arpyia-20220831123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:38, 12 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaféBuzz-20230612103800-Arpyia-20220831123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CaféBuzz-20230612103800-Arpyia-20220831123000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20230612191200-CaféBuzz-20230612103800"></span>Bonjour <a href="/wiki/User:Caf%C3%A9Buzz" title="User:CaféBuzz">CaféBuzz</a>, une entité Wikidata correspond à un concept précis : une commune n'est pas la même chose qu'une ville ou un village, il y a aussi des éléments pour ces derniers et c'est le résultat d'une dizaine d'années de développement de Wikidata. Ce n'est pas correct de marquer comme déprécié une information qui ne vous convient pas, cela casse les réutilisations des données. De plus, ce n'est pas vrai que l'objet de Wikidata est de centraliser les informations des projets Wikimédia. Wikidata est une base de données autonome, la Wikipédia peut avoir un seul article là où Wikidata aura plusieurs éléments. <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20230612191200-CaféBuzz-20230612103800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 12 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20230612191200-CaféBuzz-20230612103800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20230612191200-CaféBuzz-20230612103800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CaféBuzz-20230612195000-Arpyia-20230612191200"></span>Dans ce cas la solution devrait être de créer un nouvel item pour chaque entité administrative et conserver l'item actuel pour la ville et centraliser les interwikis. Il me semble que c'est ce que vous aviez convenu avec <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> ci-dessus en juillet dernier. Un grand nombre d'agglomérations sont identifiables et mentionnées depuis plusieurs siècles avant la création des communes à proprement parler, il devrait y avoir un item correspondant (comme c'est le cas pour les lieux dits), sans besoin de se référer à un statut légal particulier. J'estime très gênant d'avoir des multitudes d'interwikis qui pointent vers une entité ne leur correspondant pas et de créer une multitude de violations de contraintes sans bonne solution de rechange (car <a href="/wiki/Q84590628" title="Q84590628">Q84590628</a>, qui n'a pas de date de création indiquée, n'est pas une solution non plus, cette commune-là a été instaurée un jour, sur la base d'une agglomération existante).</dd> <dd>Si j'ai cassé quelque chose n'hésitez pas à supprimer mon changement, mais il y a vraiment un souci, en tant que contributeur à Wikidata je trouve que c'est très embêtant de se retrouver sans solution appropriée <a href="/wiki/User:Caf%C3%A9Buzz" title="User:CaféBuzz">CaféBuzz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Caf%C3%A9Buzz" title="User talk:CaféBuzz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-CaféBuzz-20230612195000-Arpyia-20230612191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:50, 12 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CaféBuzz-20230612195000-Arpyia-20230612191200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CaféBuzz-20230612195000-Arpyia-20230612191200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomenclature_d'activités_française" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomenclature_d'activités_française-20221229202500"><span id="Nomenclature_d.27activit.C3.A9s_fran.C3.A7aise"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomenclature_d'activités_française-20221229202500"></span>Nomenclature d'activités française<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomenclature_d'activités_française-20221229202500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Nomenclature d'activités française"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daask-20221229202500-Nomenclature_d'activités_française"></span>I'm struggling to understand the data model of <a href="/wiki/Q112111570" title="Q112111570">Nomenclature d'activités française, rév. 2 <small>(Q112111570)</small></a>. Specifically, <a href="/wiki/Q112165919" title="Q112165919">book publishing <small>(Q112165919)</small></a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/metadonnees/nafr2/sousClasse/58.11z">58.11Z</a>) appears to be a duplicate of <a href="/wiki/Q29585658" title="Q29585658">book publishing <small>(Q29585658)</small></a> (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/metadonnees/nafr2/sousClasse/58.11">58.11</a>). Are there any other subclasses of 58.11? Any ideas how we might differentiate these items? Barring new information, I'm inclined to link Q29585658 to 58.11Z and make 58.11 a separate item with <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small>(P31)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q112164542" title="Q112164542">sub-class of the French nomenclature of activities <small>(Q112164542)</small></a></span></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r2202089130">.mw-parser-output .statement{margin:0 .2em;background:var(--background-color-base,#fff);color:var(--color-base,#202122);border:1px solid var(--border-color-subtle,#c8ccd1)}.mw-parser-output .statement .subject{padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .predicate{background:var(--background-color-neutral,#eaecf0);color:var(--color-emphasized,#000);padding:0 .2em}.mw-parser-output .statement .object{padding:0 .2em}</style>. <a href="/wiki/User:Daask" title="User:Daask">Daask</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daask" title="User talk:Daask"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Daask-20221229202500-Nomenclature_d'activités_française" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 29 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daask-20221229202500-Nomenclature_d'activités_française"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daask-20221229202500-Nomenclature_d'activités_française"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dates_de_création_de_villes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dates_de_création_de_villes-20230221135600"><span id="Dates_de_cr.C3.A9ation_de_villes"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dates_de_création_de_villes-20230221135600"></span>Dates de création de villes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dates_de_création_de_villes-20230221135600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Dates de création de villes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FreeCorp-20230221135600-Dates_de_création_de_villes"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Je ne vois pas de réponse satisfaisante aux messages ci-dessus concernant Dunkerque et Mâcon, toutefois je constate que les informations relatives aux dates de création ont été supprimées par des contributeurs différents, ce qui m'incite à penser que votre démarche a été a minima mal comprise, voire mal menée. La suppression a mal été faite pour Dunkerque car l'année 2010 a été maintenue dans la description de la ville ("commune française du département du Nord (2010-)") </p><p>Je viens d'ajouter une date, sourcée, de création de Clairvaux-les-Lacs en 1930, dont vous avez daté la création à 1959. J'imagine que cela sera prochainement modifié, soit pour supprimer les deux dates et garder un élément "intemporel" pour cette commune, soit pour distinguer la Clairvaux-les-Lacs d'après 1959, celle entre 1930 et 1959, et celle qui précédait. </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp">FreeCorp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FreeCorp" title="User talk:FreeCorp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-FreeCorp-20230221135600-Dates_de_création_de_villes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FreeCorp-20230221135600-Dates_de_création_de_villes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FreeCorp-20230221135600-Dates_de_création_de_villes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FreeCorp-20230316053700-FreeCorp-20230221135600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:Hsarrazin" title="User:Hsarrazin"><bdi>Hsarrazin</bdi></a>: Toujours pas de réponse, je rencontre de nouveau un problème pour Mantes-la-Jolie, créée en 1931 <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q207253&diff=prev&oldid=1108376825">d'après cette modif</a>, que j'ai tout de même indiquée comme lieu de mort de <a href="/wiki/Q117179194" title="Q117179194">Claude Marcel</a> en 1590, considérant que ces ajouts d'années de création à des communes françaises ne font pas consensus au sein de la communauté (cf les suppressions évoquées dans mon message précédent) et ont été faits de façon non satisfaisante, sans créer les éléments Wikidata correspondant aux anciennes communes. Faute de réponse, je continuerai à ignorer, sans les mentionner sur cette page de discussion, ces dates de création si les éléments wikidata "antérieurs" n'ont pas été créés, voire je les supprimerai pour éviter les violations de contrainte de simultanéité. <a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp">FreeCorp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FreeCorp" title="User talk:FreeCorp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-FreeCorp-20230316053700-FreeCorp-20230221135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:37, 16 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FreeCorp-20230316053700-FreeCorp-20230221135600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FreeCorp-20230316053700-FreeCorp-20230221135600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mairies_françaises" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mairies_françaises-20230621152600"><span id="Mairies_fran.C3.A7aises"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mairies_françaises-20230621152600"></span>Mairies françaises<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mairies_françaises-20230621152600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Mairies françaises"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebleouf-20230621152600-Mairies_françaises"></span>Bonjour Arpyia. Je tenais tout d'abord à te remercier pour l'énorme chantier que tu mènes sur Wikidata sur les différents aspects de l'administration française. Concernant les mairies, il y a deux aspects sur lesquels je m'interroge, et je me permets de solliciter l'expertise de @<a href="/wiki/User:Chabe01" title="User:Chabe01">Chabe01</a> qui avait déjà créé les mairies de l'Ain avant que tu ne le fasses pour le reste de la France : </p> <ul><li>concernant la nature de l'élément et l'usage, Chabe01 a préféré directement <a href="/wiki/Q25550691" title="Q25550691">Q25550691</a> (hôtel de ville) comme nature alors que tu as mis <a href="/wiki/Q13226383" title="Q13226383">Q13226383</a> (équipement). Je ne suis pas spécialiste sur ces aspects, mais l'utilisation de <a href="/wiki/Q13226383" title="Q13226383">Q13226383</a> empêche le classement général de l'élément comme bâtiment. J'attends d'avoir vos avis là-dessus, mais je pense qu'il faudra ensuite harmoniser avec l'Ain (et possiblement d'autres mairies créées auparavant).</li> <li>concernant la géolocalisation des éléments, je pense (mais je ne sais pas comment) qu'il est possible de récupérer la liste des géolocalisations afin de l'ajouter sur les éléments. Chabe01, tu as peut-être une idée là-dessus puisque tu l'as fait pour l'Ain et bien d'autres choses ?</li></ul> <p>Encore merci, cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Sebleouf" title="User:Sebleouf">Sebleouf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebleouf" title="User talk:Sebleouf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Sebleouf-20230621152600-Mairies_françaises" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebleouf-20230621152600-Mairies_françaises"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sebleouf-20230621152600-Mairies_françaises"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chabe01-20230621225700-Sebleouf-20230621152600"></span>Bonjour, je remercie aussi Arpyia pour le travail. Concernant la nature de l'élément, je privilégierais <a href="/wiki/Q25550691" title="Q25550691">Q25550691</a> (hôtel de ville). Pour les mairies de l'Ain, j'avais vérifier avant de créer les éléments que chaque commune avait une mairie sur OSM dans l'Ain. Par contre, au vu du nombre énorme de mairies en France, je pense qu'il faudrait voir les données IGN (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://geoservices.ign.fr/geofla">https://geoservices.ign.fr/geofla</a>), il y a un fichier donnant la localisation des chefs-lieu des communes et je crois qu'il correspond au lieu de la mairie. J'avais regardé il y a quelques années et ça avait l'air de correspondre.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Chabe01" title="User:Chabe01">Chabe01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chabe01" title="User talk:Chabe01"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Chabe01-20230621225700-Sebleouf-20230621152600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chabe01-20230621225700-Sebleouf-20230621152600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chabe01-20230621225700-Sebleouf-20230621152600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20230621185900-Chabe01-20230621225700"></span>Bonjour @<a href="/wiki/User:Sebleouf" title="User:Sebleouf">Sebleouf</a>, un grand merci pour ton gentil message.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>Je mets souvent une catégorie très générale dans la propriété nature de l'élément car les catégorisations précises me paraissent assez peu utiles. On y trouve à peu près n'importe quoi et des catégorisations concurrentes suivant ce que les uns ou les autres ont envie d'y mettre. J'ai mis hôtel de ville comme usage car c'est la fonction qui est assurée. Cela permettra ensuite de répertorier facilement d'autres fonctions, concomitantes ou successives : il y a des mairies-écoles, des mairies-bureau de poste, des mairies dans une ancienne demeure ou des anciennes mairies transformées en hôtel...</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>En revanche il y a une vraie question sur la distinction entre un équipement/établissement et un bâtiment sur Wikidata, qui dépasse largement la question des mairies. Moi je m'intéresse aux équipements : si je crée une page sur une mairie, ou un hôpital, ou un site industriel, c'est pour décrire un site, qui peut comprendre un bâtiment, ou plusieurs bâtiments, et aussi des éléments non bâtis. Si on veut une nomenclature précise, il faudrait créer des éléments différents pour les bâtiments. Je crois que personne ne fait cela, donc je n'ai pas de solution pour le moment.</dd> <dd></dd> <dd>La géolocalisation se trouve dans l'Annuaire du service public, mais je n'ai pas les compétences informatiques pour la récupérer. Je suis preneuse d'une solution. <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20230621185900-Chabe01-20230621225700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20230621185900-Chabe01-20230621225700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20230621185900-Chabe01-20230621225700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sebleouf-20230622195500-Arpyia-20230621185900"></span>Bonsoir. Je vous remercie pour vos réponses ! Arpyia, je me permets de recopier ta réponse ici afin d'assurer une meilleure lisibilité de la discussion. Les éléments d'explication du choix de la typologie « équipement » me permettent de mieux comprendre la logique générale, qui se défend. En l'état, je n'ai pas mieux à proposer. Sur la question de la géolocalisation, en effet les données IGN semblent correspondre aux mairies. Dans la base de données ADMIN EXPRESS (qui remplace GEOFLA que tu as mentionné), les chefs-lieux des communes sont bien localisés à l'emplacement de la mairie (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://geoservices.ign.fr/sites/default/files/2023-06/DC_DL_ADMIN_EXPRESS_3-2.pdf">cf. doc</a>). Je pense que cette base est plus intéressante que celle de l'Annuaire du service public, en ouvrant des pages au hasard, je suis tombé sur des erreurs de géolocalisation comme <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://lannuaire.service-public.fr/occitanie/ariege/00e4c0a6-2afd-4c4b-9bf1-d2d3d5eeee8d">ici</a> où le point tombe dans la forêt. Malheureusement, je ne vais pas avoir non plus les compétences techniques pour m'occuper d'un tel import. @<a href="/wiki/User:Chabe01" title="User:Chabe01">Chabe01</a>, est-ce que tu pourrais t'en charger ? Pour ma part, je compte illustrer au mieux ces entrées grâce à Commons. Si les liens avec les catégories, quand elles existent, ont déjà été faits, il y a tout un travail d'import d'images nécessitant un œil humain (choisir la meilleure photo pour illustrer le bâtiment). Encore merci, <a href="/wiki/User:Sebleouf" title="User:Sebleouf">Sebleouf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sebleouf" title="User talk:Sebleouf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Sebleouf-20230622195500-Arpyia-20230621185900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sebleouf-20230622195500-Arpyia-20230621185900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sebleouf-20230622195500-Arpyia-20230621185900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900-Sebleouf-20230622195500"></span>Bonjour, je rebondis sur la discussion en l’élargissant aux écoles : sur l’Alsace j’avais créé déjà pas mal d’écoles (bâtiments) et j’ai pensé que tes ajouts étaient sur l’école (organisation) au vu du contenu des éléments, mais en lisant ci-dessus j’ai un doute maintenant. Comment s’articulent par exemple pour toi <a href="/wiki/Q108800402" title="Q108800402">Q108800402</a> et <a href="/wiki/Q119633458" title="Q119633458">Q119633458</a> ? Pour moi en faisant quelques ajustements on pourrait faire du premier le bâtiment et du second l’organisation, mais je ne sais pas si mes éléments bâtiments correspondent à ce que tu entends par équipement (sans doute pas vraiment, mais je ne sais pas si ça vaut le coup de créer un troisième élément). <a href="/wiki/User:Runi_Gerardsen" title="User:Runi Gerardsen">Runi Gerardsen</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Runi_Gerardsen" title="User talk:Runi Gerardsen"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900-Sebleouf-20230622195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900-Sebleouf-20230622195500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900-Sebleouf-20230622195500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20230623185100-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900"></span>Bonjour à tous et merci pour vos différents commentaires, je suis vraiment contente de voir que des personnes s'intéressent.</dd> <dd>Concernant les catégories Commons, j'en ai ajouté un gros paquet sur les éléments des mairies (de mémoire 10 ou 12000), mais il en manque encore là où j'ai eu des difficultés notamment avec les homonymes.</dd> <dd>Concernant les écoles, je n'avais pas remarqué ce cas. Je tiens pour acquis que Wikidata fait la différence entre une organisation, entité juridique ou sociale, et un équipement/établissement, entité géographique. Une commune n'est pas la même chose qu'une mairie, une entreprise n'est pas la même chose qu'un atelier de production, une institution muséale n'est pas la même chose qu'un musée. Un équipement n'est pas non plus identique à un bâtiment : ce qui fait une école, c'est tout ce qui y concourt dans un même lieu, on peut imaginer un site scolaire qui inclut un ou plusieurs bâtiments où sont dispensés les enseignements, mais aussi la cour de récréation, le bâtiment de la demi-pension, celui de l'internat, le gymnase, les espaces sportifs extérieurs, sans compter qu'on y trouve aussi le parking du personnel, l'abri à vélos et la loge du gardien ! Et il y a des équipements (principalement) non bâtis comme un parc public par exemple. Ce n'est pas la même approche conceptuelle. Si l'école ferme, elle n'existe plus, mais le bâtiment est toujours là et par exemple il est toujours classé. Si elle fait l'objet d'une démolition-reconstruction, le bâtiment n'existe plus mais l'école existe toujours.</dd> <dd>Je ne sais pas quelles conclusions pratiques en tirer, à part qu'il y a de la place pour tout le monde. Je trouve que Wikidata n'est pas très performante pour relier des réalités décrites sous différents angles. Si vous vous intéressez à l'architecture, mes histoires d'équipements ne vous sont pas d'un grand intérêt... et pourtant ce serait utile de pouvoir faire dialoguer les différentes disciplines.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20230623185100-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 23 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20230623185100-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20230623185100-Runi_Gerardsen-20230623070900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France" data-mw-thread-id="h-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France-20230708173900"><span id="recensement_des_.C3.A9quipements_sportifs.2C_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France-20230708173900"></span>recensement des équipements sportifs, espaces et sites de pratiques en France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France-20230708173900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: recensement des équipements sportifs, espaces et sites de pratiques en France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ayack-20230708173900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span>Bonjour, je constate de nombreuses erreurs liées au recensement des équipements sportifs, espaces et sites de pratiques en France. Ce jeu de données n'a pas l'air fiable du tout et de nombreux doublons sont créés de ce fait. Par exemple <a href="/wiki/Q120222568" class="mw-redirect" title="Q120222568">Q120222568</a> qui est un doublon de <a href="/wiki/Q112336835" title="Q112336835">Q112336835</a> mais avec une localisation administrative et des coordonnées erronées ou encore <a href="/wiki/Q120223114" title="Q120223114">Q120223114</a> qui malgré un renommage comporte les mêmes erreurs (localisation administrative et des coordonnées erronées). Je serais d'avis d'ajouter l'identifiant pour les éléments existants mais de n'utiliser aucune autre donnée en provenance de celui-ci. <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Ayack-20230708173900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 8 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ayack-20230708173900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ayack-20230708173900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ayack-20230708175200-Ayack-20230708173900"></span>Même problème pour : <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Q112573011" title="Q112573011">Q112573011</a> et <a href="/wiki/Q120220157" class="mw-redirect" title="Q120220157">Q120220157</a> : doublon, localisation administrative et coordonnées erronées</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q110964384" title="Q110964384">Q110964384</a> et <a href="/wiki/Q120221845" class="mw-redirect" title="Q120221845">Q120221845</a> : doublon</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q3135939" title="Q3135939">Q3135939</a> et <a href="/wiki/Q120224556" class="mw-redirect" title="Q120224556">Q120224556</a> : doublon</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Q29047072" title="Q29047072">écluse de la Jaille-Yvon <small>(Q29047072)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Q120222944" title="Q120222944">Q120222944</a> : doublon</li></ul></dd> <dd>et un grand nombre d'autres sans compter les problèmes de nommage des éléments (majuscule en début de libellé, tirets manquants, etc.) <a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack">Ayack</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ayack" title="User talk:Ayack"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Ayack-20230708175200-Ayack-20230708173900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 8 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ayack-20230708175200-Ayack-20230708173900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ayack-20230708175200-Ayack-20230708173900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-20230712171500-Ayack-20230708175200"></span>Je confirme que ce jeu de données est de qualité médiocre. Indépendamment de cela, j'ajoute que plus de précautions lors de l'import aurait permis d'éviter les créations de doublons et surtout d'éviter de faire perdre du temps aux autres contributeurs. Pour info, je viens de fusionner <a href="/wiki/Q113137996" class="mw-redirect" title="Q113137996">Bains municipaux de Mulhouse <small>(Q113137996)</small></a>. Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-20230712171500-Ayack-20230708175200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:15, 12 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-20230712171500-Ayack-20230708175200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-20230712171500-Ayack-20230708175200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blackcat-20230714184300-VIGNERON-20230712171500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ayack" title="User:Ayack"><bdi>Ayack</bdi></a>: Je confirme aussi la qualité mediocre des donneés. J'ai crée toutes les élements Wikidata des stades français au championnat du monde de foot 1998 et de rugby 2007, et j'ai trouve des source de l'epoque sur bnf. Malhereusement l'utilisateur continue malgré les avertiments... -- <b><a href="/wiki/User:Blackcat" title="User:Blackcat"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;color:#000">Blackcat</span></a></b> <sup><small><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:blackcat" title="Discussioni utente:blackcat"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/15px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="11" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/23px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/30px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="14"/></a></span></small></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Blackcat-20230714184300-VIGNERON-20230712171500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blackcat-20230714184300-VIGNERON-20230712171500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blackcat-20230714184300-VIGNERON-20230712171500"></span><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blackcat-20230716083800-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span>PS voir <a href="/wiki/Q861000" title="Q861000">Stade Geoffroy-Guichard <small>(Q861000)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q815833" title="Q815833">Stade de la Mosson <small>(Q815833)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1053455" title="Q1053455">Stade de la Beaujoire <small>(Q1053455)</small></a>, <a href="/wiki/Q1980" title="Q1980">Stade de Gerland <small>(Q1980)</small></a>, etc. ou le correct addrese et la date de batiment ont ete change sans raison.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sannita" title="User:Sannita"><bdi>Sannita</bdi></a>: puoi fare qualcosa? Gli è stato detto di smetterla di modificare dati con quelli da riferimenti inaffidabili, ma continua in write - only. -- <b><a href="/wiki/User:Blackcat" title="User:Blackcat"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;color:#000">Blackcat</span></a></b> <sup><small><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:blackcat" title="Discussioni utente:blackcat"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/15px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="11" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/23px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/30px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="14"/></a></span></small></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Blackcat-20230716083800-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blackcat-20230716083800-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blackcat-20230716083800-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span> </p> <div class="block" style="margin: 0 auto 1em auto; padding: .2em; background-color: #ffe8e8; border: 1px solid #CCC;" dir="ltr"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="50" align="center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sannita-20230719185900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg/40px-Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg/60px-Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg/80px-Stop_x_nuvola_with_clock.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="212" data-file-height="211"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> </td> <td valign="top">You have been <b><a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Blocking_policy" title="Wikidata:Blocking policy">blocked</a></b> for a period of <b>1 week</b> for repeated insertion and creation of low-quality content + write-only. Once this block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest it by editing this page and adding the following template with a suitable reason: <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Unblock" title="Template:Unblock">unblock</a>|1=<the reason for your unblock request>}}</code>. If you are logged in, and the option has not been disabled, you may also email the blocking administrator (or any administrator from <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_administrators" title="Wikidata:List of administrators">this list</a>) by using <a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser" title="Special:EmailUser">this form</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Wikidata:Guide_to_appealing_blocks" title="Wikidata:Guide to appealing blocks">Wikidata:Guide to appealing blocks</a> for more information. </td></tr> </tbody></table> <hr/> <div style="text-align: center"> <p><span style="font-size:x-small;line-height:140%" class="plainlinks noprint"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/en">English</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/be-tarask">беларуская (тарашкевіца)</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/bn">বাংলা</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/de">Deutsch</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/es">español</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/fr">français</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/gl">galego</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/it">italiano</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/ja">日本語</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/mk">македонски</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/nl">Nederlands</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/pt">português</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/ro">română</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/ru">русский</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/sl">slovenščina</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/uk">українська</a> | <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Block/zh">中文</a> | <small class="plainlinks" title="Edit Template:Block/lang"><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Block/lang&action=edit">+/−</a></small> </span> </p> </div> </div><p>⁠ <a href="/wiki/User:Sannita" title="User:Sannita">Sannita</a> - <small><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sannita" title="User talk:Sannita">not just another it.wiki sysop</a></i></small> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Sannita-20230719185900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 19 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sannita-20230719185900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sannita-20230719185900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20230721175900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span>Bonjour <a href="/wiki/User:Sannita" title="User:Sannita">Sannita</a>, Sauf oubli de ma part, j'ai corrigé toutes les erreurs qui m'ont été signalées. J'ai fusionné la plupart des doublons, il reste encore quelques pages à vérifier. J'ai apporté des sources et corrigé de nombreuses données fausses préexistantes au passage. L'amélioration des données n'est pas terminée, j'en étais au traitement des libellés. Je pense qu'il est grandement exagéré de m'accuser de « low-quality content » parce qu'il m'arrive comme tout le monde de faire des erreurs. Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20230721175900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20230721175900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20230721175900-recensement_des_équipements_sportifs,_espaces_et_sites_de_pratiques_en_France"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="_Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»" data-mw-thread-id="h-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»-20230730162200"><span id="_Refuge_du_Parmelan_.281825M.29_.C2.BB"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»-20230730162200"></span> Refuge du Parmelan (1825M) »<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»-20230730162200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section:  Refuge du Parmelan (1825M) »"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyrog-20230730162200-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"></span>Bonjour, J'ai vu que tu as importé des installation sportive avec OpenRefine. Il y a au moins 1 doublon : </p> <ul><li>Refuge du Parmelan (1825M) (<a href="/wiki/Q120311502" class="mw-redirect" title="Q120311502">Q120311502</a>) existait déjà.<br/>C'est l'élément refuge du Parmelan (<a href="/wiki/Q282669" title="Q282669">Q282669</a>)</li></ul> <p>Au passage, même si il a un <a href="/wiki/Property:P11840" title="Property:P11840">numéro d'une installation sportive en France</a> je ne le considère pas comme une installation sportive. C'est avant tout un refuge 😉 </p><p>Je te propose de rajouter uniquement cet identifiant à <a href="/wiki/Q282669" title="Q282669">Q282669</a> et de rediriger ton éléments vers l'original. Il y a probablement d'autres doublons. Quelle est ta source de données ? </p><p>Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Pyrog" title="User:Pyrog">Pyrog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyrog" title="User talk:Pyrog"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pyrog-20230730162200-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyrog-20230730162200-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyrog-20230730162200-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blackcat-20230806234000-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sannita" title="User:Sannita"><bdi>Sannita</bdi></a>:, ho l'impressione che il ragazzo se ne freghi di quelo che gli viene detto e va avanti in write-only-- <b><a href="/wiki/User:Blackcat" title="User:Blackcat"><span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;color:#000">Blackcat</span></a></b> <sup><small><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Discussioni_utente:blackcat" title="Discussioni utente:blackcat"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/15px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="11" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/23px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ar_Icon_Contact.svg/30px-Ar_Icon_Contact.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="20" data-file-height="14"/></a></span></small></sup> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Blackcat-20230806234000-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blackcat-20230806234000-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blackcat-20230806234000-Refuge_du_Parmelan_(1825M)_»"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Doublons_d'installations_sportives" data-mw-thread-id="h-Doublons_d'installations_sportives-20231007082100"><span id="Doublons_d.27installations_sportives"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Doublons_d'installations_sportives-20231007082100"></span>Doublons d'installations sportives<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Doublons_d'installations_sportives-20231007082100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Doublons d'installations sportives"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-20231007082100-Doublons_d'installations_sportives"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Il reste encore un très grand nombre de doublon dans les installations sportives, pourrais-tu t'en occuper s'il te plaît ? Je viens notamment de tomber sur <a href="/wiki/Q118525941" title="Q118525941">Q118525941</a> et <a href="/wiki/Q118525942" class="mw-redirect" title="Q118525942">Q118525942</a> mais il y en a des milliers d'autres (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://qlever.cs.uni-freiburg.de/wikidata/XueW6j">https://qlever.cs.uni-freiburg.de/wikidata/XueW6j</a> permet de repérer certains doublons via les coordonnées et le taux est autour de 5 %, pour 150 000 installations sportives cela fait environ 7500 doublons). </p><p>Cet import était vraiment une mauvaise idée vue la qualité très médiocre de la source. Dans l'idéal, il faudrait aussi trouver une autre source pour pouvoir corriger. </p><p>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-VIGNERON-20231007082100-Doublons_d'installations_sportives" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 7 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-VIGNERON-20231007082100-Doublons_d'installations_sportives"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-VIGNERON-20231007082100-Doublons_d'installations_sportives"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Isabelle_Dexpert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Isabelle_Dexpert-20231209134600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Isabelle_Dexpert-20231209134600"></span>Isabelle Dexpert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Isabelle_Dexpert-20231209134600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: Isabelle Dexpert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maundwiki-20231209134600-Isabelle_Dexpert"></span>Looks like there was two objects created. <a href="/wiki/Q98236273" class="mw-redirect" title="Q98236273">Isabelle Dexpert <small>(Q98236273)</small></a> and <a href="/wiki/Q63763330" title="Q63763330">Isabelle Dexpert <small>(Q63763330)</small></a>. Not sure how to handle sources when merging. <a href="/wiki/User:Maundwiki" title="User:Maundwiki">Maundwiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maundwiki" title="User talk:Maundwiki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Maundwiki-20231209134600-Isabelle_Dexpert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maundwiki-20231209134600-Isabelle_Dexpert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maundwiki-20231209134600-Isabelle_Dexpert"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="merge_some_NACE_items" data-mw-thread-id="h-merge_some_NACE_items-20240223071200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-merge_some_NACE_items-20240223071200"></span>merge some NACE items<span data-mw-comment-end="h-merge_some_NACE_items-20240223071200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: merge some NACE items"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200-merge_some_NACE_items"></span>Please merge <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q112122786">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q112122786</a> (which had no EN label, I added one) to <a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29584788">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q29584788</a>. How are the two different? </p><p>Also, are there other NACE items created by you that need merging? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200-merge_some_NACE_items" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200-merge_some_NACE_items"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200-merge_some_NACE_items"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223074200-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200"></span>Hi! I tagged you about two points related to NACE in Sep 2023 but just saw I misspelled your username (Sorry!). Please reply there: <ul><li><a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P4496#Merge_singleton_classes_with_their_subclasses">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P4496#Merge_singleton_classes_with_their_subclasses</a></li> <li><a class="external free" href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P4496#Merge_%22n.e.c%22_classes_to_parent_class">https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P4496#Merge_%22n.e.c%22_classes_to_parent_class</a></li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User:Vladimir Alexiev">Vladimir Alexiev</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vladimir_Alexiev" title="User talk:Vladimir Alexiev"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223074200-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223074200-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223074200-Vladimir_Alexiev-20240223071200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET" data-mw-thread-id="h-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET-20240302165800"><span id="incompatibilit.C3.A9_SIREN_et_SIRET"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET-20240302165800"></span>incompatibilité SIREN et SIRET<span data-mw-comment-end="h-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET-20240302165800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: incompatibilité SIREN et SIRET"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Alain_Schneider-20240302165800-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET"></span>Bonjour, Pour quelle raison avez-vous rendu incompatibles les <a href="/wiki/Property:P1616" title="Property:P1616">SIREN number <small dir="ltr">(P1616)</small></a> et <a href="/wiki/Property:P3215" title="Property:P3215">SIRET number <small dir="ltr">(P3215)</small></a> et institué la contrainte "Les entités qui déclarent la propriété numéro SIRET doivent être des instances de équipement ou être humain (ou d’une de leurs sous-classes)" <a href="/wiki/User:Alain_Schneider" title="User:Alain Schneider">Alain Schneider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Alain_Schneider" title="User talk:Alain Schneider"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Alain_Schneider-20240302165800-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Alain_Schneider-20240302165800-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Alain_Schneider-20240302165800-incompatibilité_SIREN_et_SIRET"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fougères" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fougères-20240316103900"><span id="Foug.C3.A8res"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fougères-20240316103900"></span>Fougères<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fougères-20240316103900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Fougères"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reinhard_Müller-20240316103900-Fougères"></span>Hi! According to <a href="/wiki/Property_talk:P131" title="Property talk:P131">Property talk:P131</a>, <a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">located in the administrative territorial entity <small dir="ltr">(P131)</small></a> should only contain the next higher administrative level, not several levels above at once. Thanks -- <a href="/wiki/User:Reinhard_M%C3%BCller" title="User:Reinhard Müller">Reinhard Müller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reinhard_M%C3%BCller" title="User talk:Reinhard Müller"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Reinhard_Müller-20240316103900-Fougères" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 16 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reinhard_Müller-20240316103900-Fougères"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reinhard_Müller-20240316103900-Fougères"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Q22670030" data-mw-thread-id="h-Q22670030-20240318212000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Q22670030-20240318212000"></span><a href="/wiki/Q22670030" title="Q22670030">Q22670030</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Q22670030-20240318212000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: Q22670030"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Infovarius-20240318212000-Q22670030"></span>Salut. Je n'aime pas suppression de cette classe. Maintenant tous les anciennes régions n'ont pas de classe courante. Il faut ajouter <a href="/wiki/Q19953632" title="Q19953632">former administrative territorial entity <small>(Q19953632)</small></a> au minimom. <a href="/wiki/User:Infovarius" title="User:Infovarius">Infovarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Infovarius" title="User talk:Infovarius"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Infovarius-20240318212000-Q22670030" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Infovarius-20240318212000-Q22670030"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Infovarius-20240318212000-Q22670030"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319164700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319164700"></span>Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop-20240319164700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in the WQT UI requirements elicitation online workshop"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319164700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"></span>Dear Arpyia, </p><p>I hope you are doing well, </p><p>We are a group of researchers from King’s College London working on developing WQT (Wikidata Quality Toolkit), which will support a diverse set of editors in curating and validating Wikidata content. </p><p>We are inviting you to participate in an online workshop aimed at understanding the requirements for designing effective and easy-to-use user interfaces (UI) for three tools within WQT that can support the daily activities of Wikidata editors: recommending items to edit based on their personal preferences, finding items that need better references, and generating entity schemas automatically for better item quality. </p><p>The main activity during this workshop will be UI mockup sketching. To facilitate this, we encourage you to attend the workshop using a tablet or laptop with PowerPoint installed or any other drawing tools you prefer. This will allow for a more interactive and productive session as we delve into the UI mockup sketching activities. </p><p>Participation is completely voluntary. You should only take part if you want to and choosing not to take part will not disadvantage you in any way. However, your cooperation will be valuable for the WQT design. Please note that all data and responses collected during the workshop will be used solely for the purpose of improving the WQT and understanding editor requirements. We will analyze the results in an anonymized form, ensuring your privacy is protected. Personal information will be kept confidential and will be deleted once it has served its purpose in this research. </p><p>The online workshop, which will be held on April 5th, should take no more than 3 hours. </p><p>If you agree to participate in this workshop, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form to register your interest <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forms.office.com/e/9mrE8rXZVg">https://forms.office.com/e/9mrE8rXZVg</a> Then, I will contact you with all the instructions for the workshop. </p><p>For more information about my project, please read this page: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://king-s-knowledge-graph-lab.github.io/WikidataQualityToolkit/">https://king-s-knowledge-graph-lab.github.io/WikidataQualityToolkit/</a> </p><p>If you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me at the email address mentioned above. </p><p>Thank you for considering taking part in this project. </p><p>Regards <a href="/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa" title="User:Kholoudsaa">Kholoudsaa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kholoudsaa" title="User talk:Kholoudsaa"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Kholoudsaa-20240319164700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319164700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kholoudsaa-20240319164700-Invitation_to_participate_in_the_WQT_UI_requirements_elicitation_online_workshop"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?-20240416182500"><span id="Dunkerque_cr.C3.A9.C3.A9e_en_2010_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?-20240416182500"></span>Dunkerque créée en 2010 ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?-20240416182500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: Dunkerque créée en 2010 ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q45797&diff=prev&oldid=2040942624"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TomT0m-20240416182500-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?"></span>C'est pas un peu absurde comme déclaration ?</a> Les autres déclarations ont des dates antérieure à la date de fondation du coup. Et des personnes sont nées dans le lieu … avant qu'il n'ait été fondé, <a href="/wiki/Q113043737" title="Q113043737">Julie Michaux <small>(Q113043737)</small></a> ça ne rend pas du tout pratique le fait de pouvoir détecter des anachronismes. <span style="border: 1px #C9C9C9;"><span style="background-color:#E8E8E8;padding:3px;">author </span><span style="background-color:#FFFFFF;"> <a href="/wiki/User:TomT0m" title="User:TomT0m">TomT0m</a> / </span>talk <a href="/wiki/User_talk:TomT0m" title="User talk:TomT0m">page</a></span> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-TomT0m-20240416182500-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TomT0m-20240416182500-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TomT0m-20240416182500-Dunkerque_créée_en_2010_?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="universities_are_organizations,_no?" data-mw-thread-id="h-universities_are_organizations,_no?-20240503135700"><span id="universities_are_organizations.2C_no.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-universities_are_organizations,_no?-20240503135700"></span>universities are organizations, no?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-universities_are_organizations,_no?-20240503135700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: universities are organizations, no?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ArthurPSmith-20240503135700-universities_are_organizations,_no?"></span>Why did you split off <a href="/wiki/Q125753974" title="Q125753974">Q125753974</a> from <a href="/wiki/Q2935621" title="Q2935621">Adventist University of France – Collonges <small>(Q2935621)</small></a>? If we were to apply this distinction generally it would greatly multiple the number of wikidata items, and I don't understand the purpose of it. How do you distinguish the "operator" of the university from the university itself? You seem to have made a number of other similar splits which I similar do not understand. <a href="/wiki/User:ArthurPSmith" title="User:ArthurPSmith">ArthurPSmith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ArthurPSmith" title="User talk:ArthurPSmith"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-ArthurPSmith-20240503135700-universities_are_organizations,_no?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ArthurPSmith-20240503135700-universities_are_organizations,_no?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ArthurPSmith-20240503135700-universities_are_organizations,_no?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="P159/P131_French_Embassies" data-mw-thread-id="h-P159/P131_French_Embassies-20240505111300"><span id="P159.2FP131_French_Embassies"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-P159/P131_French_Embassies-20240505111300"></span>P159/P131 French Embassies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-P159/P131_French_Embassies-20240505111300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: P159/P131 French Embassies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240505111300-P159/P131_French_Embassies"></span>Hello! Unfortunately, these edits <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q572567&diff=prev&oldid=2144692712">1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q572567&curid=538611&diff=2144692712&oldid=2144670958">2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2841748&curid=2721658&diff=2144692079&oldid=2144670319">3</a> make it very difficult to create uniform queries. Currently, about 9,000 embassies have items, of which 300 have <a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location <small dir="ltr">(P159)</small></a>, and 8,500 have <a href="/wiki/Property:P131" title="Property:P131">located in the administrative territorial entity <small dir="ltr">(P131)</small></a>. Unfortunately, with your edits, you only achieve that when someone makes a query about the diplomatic missions of a country or city, the representations in France are left out. In any case, P159 is for organizations that have a center and several locations, such as a library network, a transport company with many locations, etc., but not embassies (of which a country has only one in every other country). I recommend fixing it. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240505111300-P159/P131_French_Embassies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240505111300-P159/P131_French_Embassies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240505111300-P159/P131_French_Embassies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20240505114800-Pallor-20240505111300"></span>Hello <span id="Pallor"></span><a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pallor" title="Special:Contributions/Pallor">contribs</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Pallor" title="Special:Log/Pallor">logs</a>), thank you for your interest. You are right, but the argument goes both ways: having embassies incorrectly using instead of P159 make them be left out in queries about organizations. An embassy is an organization, it's not a physical object - not to be confused with <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Q2750585&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Q2750585 (page does not exist)">Q2750585</a>, which is also called "embassy" in English and does refer to a place. P159 is not only for libraries and transport companies, all (formal) organizations have a seat. Now, are all items about embassies in Wikidata modelled as organizations or are they mixed with the facilities they operate? <a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20240505114800-Pallor-20240505111300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20240505114800-Pallor-20240505111300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20240505114800-Pallor-20240505111300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240505232900-Arpyia-20240505114800"></span>Hello! I moved your message here to keep it in one place (and fixed the ping).</dd> <dd>Unfortunately, you misunderstood me in many places. I am well aware that the embassy is an institution, not a building. I don't even know why you wrote this: did you read something in my message from which you drew the conclusion that I interpret embassies as buildings? Furthermore, of course, I am also aware that its headquarters cannot only be a library network and a transport company. "Such as" means that I give examples for the sake of understanding.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>However, the embassy cannot have a seat - or if we are really pushing this term - then the embassy itself is the seat, since - as I wrote - a country can only have one embassy in another country, so it is not an organization with several locations, so it does not have a headquarter. If we wanted to really force this approach, the headquarters of all embassies of a country would be the ministry of foreign affairs itself, but this is a wrong approach, since the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is usually more than one headquarters. Incidentally, in the elements of the French diplomatic missions, this is quite correctly indicated with the <a href="/wiki/Property:P749" title="Property:P749">parent organization <small dir="ltr">(P749)</small></a> property. So the whole headquarters question is just a bad approach, again I'm asking you to fix these edits because - in addition to using a bad approach - they make it very difficult to create queries. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240505232900-Arpyia-20240505114800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240505232900-Arpyia-20240505114800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240505232900-Arpyia-20240505114800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240506110800-Pallor-20240505232900"></span>This query shows that all French embassies have become a cuckoo's egg if we narrow down the search to an administrative unit. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://w.wiki/9zXm">https://w.wiki/9zXm</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240506110800-Pallor-20240505232900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240506110800-Pallor-20240505232900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240506110800-Pallor-20240505232900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arpyia-20240506173200-Pallor-20240506110800"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a>, I read your message. I am sorry if I did not communicate very clearly what I was trying to explain. As we are building a database, we must be careful about the definition of concepts we are using. Yes, organizations can have a parent organization, and an embassy can have a ministry as its parent organization. Any (formal) organization also has a seat, and the seat is a physical place - in Wikidata, we choose to use an administrative unit as the main value.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I understand that it's not always easy, especially because the world is not simple. For example, it is not true that an embassy cannot operate in several locations, it's up to how each state is organized. Namely, French embassies can operate consulates-general on top of their main office: you can see an example of the administrative structure here <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://de.ambafrance.org/-Francais-">https://de.ambafrance.org/-Francais-</a>. There is also a lot of confusion: for example, the item <a href="/wiki/Q2841775" title="Q2841775">Embassy of France, Bucharest <small>(Q2841775)</small></a> describes both an organization and a building, which are not the same thing.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>However, I think there might be a misunderstanding because you would expect items to be about facilities operated by embassies, rather than the organizations themselves. That would make sense and it would be interesting to have items about them too! What do you think?</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Arpyia-20240506173200-Pallor-20240506110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arpyia-20240506173200-Pallor-20240506110800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arpyia-20240506173200-Pallor-20240506110800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240507082800-Arpyia-20240506173200"></span>Dear Arpyia, please don't answer on my discussion page, but here, otherwise the conversation will fall apart.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I think there is a mistake: you have mixed up the tasks of embassies and the structure of diplomatic missions. Well: all embassies in the world perform consular activities, as this is one of their two functions (the other being political representation). In other words, it does not depend on the organization of the countries - as you write - whether there is a consulate at the embassy, and not only the French embassies maintain a consulate. It's like you wrote that the most senior official in French embassies is the ambassador, when everyone else knows that this is the case for all embassies in the world. So there are consulates everywhere, not just at French embassies. However, the consulate general you mentioned is already different: if it also belongs to the embassy organizationally, it is marked here on Wikidata with a separate element, e.g.: Q2995340. So, the element of the embassy does NEM mean the element of all the diplomatic representations operating in the country, but necessarily and inseparably means the consular and political activities that the organization performs. If the question were, what is the headquarters of all the diplomatic representations of country "A" in country "B", then I would say that the embassy itself. But what you started marking is the seat of the embassy itself, which is logically and structurally incomprehensible.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>I still don't understand why we are talking about the building vs. on the question of institution, since this was not included in my proposal. This is of course in Wikidata, e.g. this building is: <a href="/wiki/Q63788502" title="Q63788502">Q63788502</a> and the institution operating in it is marked with <a href="/wiki/Property:P466" title="Property:P466">occupant <small dir="ltr">(P466)</small></a>: <a href="/wiki/Q5369855" title="Q5369855">Embassy of Serbia, Budapest <small>(Q5369855)</small></a>. Or here: <a href="/wiki/Q65548299" title="Q65548299">Q65548299</a> P466: <a href="/wiki/Q783754" title="Q783754">Embassy of the United States, Budapest <small>(Q783754)</small></a> . This is a system known and used for a long time - not only in the case of embassies. If you don't mind, I wouldn't like to talk about the buildings, since that wasn't originally in the proposal either, I feel it's a mistake.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>However, I don't see the answer to what I mentioned earlier as a reason: of the nearly 9,000 embassy elements, more than 300 now follow other structures (99 percent of which are French or from France diplomatic missions). What is the reason for this? How can you ensure the integrity of Wikidata if you use multiple structures on a topic? <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240507082800-Arpyia-20240506173200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 7 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240507082800-Arpyia-20240506173200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240507082800-Arpyia-20240506173200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600-Pallor-20240505111300"></span>I noticed a few edits like <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/2146523249" title="Special:Diff/2146523249">this</a>, and I also don't think that P131 in embassy items is feasible. An embassy essentially is an organization. It can operate in multiple locations, it can move between locations, it can have suborganizations etc. It has e.g. staff, legal form and budget that relate strictly to an organization. It isn't fixated to some location, as opposed to objects, like buildings, that normally use P131. <a href="/wiki/Property:P159" title="Property:P159">headquarters location <small dir="ltr">(P159)</small></a> exists to make it clear in what way particular location relates to an organization, and hence deems more feasible.</dd> <dd>Wikidata has a lot data of that happens to be structured in a way which is dubious or just erroneous. This in itself shouldn't be a reason to declear that dubious/erroneous data is good, as long as it's structured like that in somewhat consistent way. I believe foremost the data should make sense in the data structure of individual items, and not only in context of some <i>ad hoc</i> queries. Probably no-one argues that ideally and eventually the data for all embassies should be structured consistently, and as you can see people are willing to work towards this. I'm happy to help with fixing P131 statements for embassies of/in Estonia. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A" title="Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A">2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600-Pallor-20240505111300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:56, 7 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600-Pallor-20240505111300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600-Pallor-20240505111300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240513232100-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600"></span>I have asked twice that you do not break up this conversation by moving the questions and answers to a different discussion page. I simply regard this as an extremely unfriendly, rude gesture.</dd> <dd>Now, for the third time, you are trying to convince me of something that we have already written about three times, that we both think the same thing: an embassy is not just a building. This makes no sense, this conversation will lead nowhere. Now, for the third time, you do not give an explanation as to why it is good to manage 300 of the 8,500 institutions in a different structure. That doesn't make sense either.</dd> <dd>It is not a dialogue if you only repeat your own and do not respond to the other person's arguments and questions. Believe me, the universities and library networks in France are not just buildings either, yet for most of them the located in the administrative territorial entity is given, not the seat. This also proves that your thinking is flawed.</dd> <dd>I would like to draw your attention to the fact that we do not usually delete data from Wikidata at all, especially not sourced data. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240513232100-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:21, 13 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240513232100-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240513232100-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:58:8929:5194:891A-20240507105600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800-Pallor-20240513232100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor"><bdi>Pallor</bdi></a>: you also tend to ignore arguments. I just exaplained why embassies in essence are organizations just like companies or any other type of organization, but you do not address it.</dd> <dd>I don't think that Arpyia suggested that some set of embassies should have different structure. Quite obviously they all should have the same structure, and hopefully other embassies can be fixed too eventually. We need to start from somewhere if we fix this.</dd> <dd>Your argument on why "the embassy cannot have a seat" sounds quite far-fetched, or is just difficult to follow. Yes, a country has one embassy in a foreign country but this embassy can still operate in multiple buildings, and be headquartered in one of the buildings. Even if embassy has one building we can still say that it is headquartered or seated at somewhere. Similarly some smaller companies operate in one location/building but you wouldn't suggest that such companies should avoid P159, would you?</dd> <dd><i>headquarters of all embassies of a country would be the ministry of foreign affairs itself</i> – P159 label in English is lterally "headquarters location". This property is for the <i>location</i> where the embassy operates, not for the ministry or other entity that the embassy is subordinated to. The latter is rather what <a href="/wiki/Property:P749" title="Property:P749">parent organization <small dir="ltr">(P749)</small></a> property is for. Embassy item can have both P159 and P749 statements.</dd> <dd>It is relevant to mention buildings as P131 statements added to embassy items directly relate to buildings where embassies operate. It should be specified how exactly the location linked via P131 relates to an embassy (or any organization), and P159 statement in place of P131 statement does specify this.</dd> <dd>P131 statements for library networks and alike are quite obviously also dubious or just erroneous. As already said, Wikidata has a lot of structure problems. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF" title="Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF">2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800-Pallor-20240513232100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800-Pallor-20240513232100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800-Pallor-20240513232100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pallor-20240515124000-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800"></span>Excuse me, but I promised before that I will not communicate with anons, because it is impossible to know whether what he wrote yesterday was written by the same person who wrote today, and whether what I answered was read by him or by another anon. Whether you register is your decision, which I respect, and I expect you to respect that I won't respond to anon's message. I didn't read what you wrote. <a href="/wiki/User:Pallor" title="User:Pallor">Pallor</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pallor" title="User talk:Pallor"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Pallor-20240515124000-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pallor-20240515124000-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pallor-20240515124000-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:D99:3BAA:5E34:56AF-20240514181800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B-20240515133400-Pallor-20240515124000"></span>That is rather arrognant stance considering that anonymous editing is allowed here. Anyway, it's your problem that you refuse to communicate. I suppose then you also need to promise not to revert my edits again as without having read my arguments you can't really know whether your action is justified, right? In case of future misunderstandings I will refer to this dicussion. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B" title="Special:Contributions/2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B">2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B</a> <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B-20240515133400-Pallor-20240515124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B-20240515133400-Pallor-20240515124000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2001:7D0:81DB:1480:258A:15C6:28F4:927B-20240515133400-Pallor-20240515124000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Lycée_in_France" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lycée_in_France-20240520163800"><span id="Lyc.C3.A9e_in_France"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lycée_in_France-20240520163800"></span>Lycée in France<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lycée_in_France-20240520163800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Lycée in France"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cgolds-20240520163800-Lycée_in_France"></span>Hello, I saw you eliminate my description of Lycée Louis Le Grand as "institution de formation". But it is correct. To put only a description as a building of some kind forbids to use "lycée Louis-Le-Grand" and other "lycées" as the place for "scolarité". We of course need to be able to do this. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) 16:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Désolée, je pensais que vous préfériez l'anglais. Je répète en français : vous avez éliminé mon ajout de "institution de formation" à "lycée Louis-Le-Grand". Mais il faut pouvoir indiquer les lycées comme lieu de scolarité et pour cela il faut qu'ils soient des institutions de formation ou toute autre chose qui les désigne comme telles. Ce ne sont pas seulement des bâtiments, ou alors, il faut mettre les adresses et des dates, et faire des doublons, ce qui paraît tout à fait inutile. Les institutions changent justement de place dans le temps, en revanche le lycée Louis-Le-Grand est une institution de formation stable depuis pas mal de temps...Cdlt.--<a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Cgolds-20240520163800-Lycée_in_France" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cgolds-20240520163800-Lycée_in_France"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cgolds-20240520163800-Lycée_in_France"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cgolds-20240520190900-Cgolds-20240520163800"></span>Bonsoir, je suis bien d'accord que cela ne veut pas dire grand chose, mais ce qu'il y a actuellement ne va pas. La nature de l'élément, pour tous les lycées, etc est "équipement scolaire" (sic). Et pour pouvoir mettre un lycée dans "scolarité", ce qu'on a évidemment besoin de faire, il faut que ce soit dans la liste autorisée : on trouve dans cette liste "séminaire", "université" et toutes sortes de choses, mais pas "lycée". Donc merci de me dire ce qu'il convient de mettre ! :). Amicalement, --<a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Cgolds-20240520190900-Cgolds-20240520163800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cgolds-20240520190900-Cgolds-20240520163800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cgolds-20240520190900-Cgolds-20240520163800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cgolds-20240522084800-Cgolds-20240520190900"></span>Bonjour, est-ce que tu peux me confirmer quelle solution il faut adopter et mettre dans "nature de l'élément" pour les lycées, afin qu'on puisse les indiquer dans "scolarité" ? "établissement d'éducation" me va s'il existe, ou toute autre chose du genre (voire de faire accepter "lycée", "collège" etc à "scolarité" comme c'est le cas pour '"université". Merci d'avance, Cordialement, --<a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Cgolds-20240522084800-Cgolds-20240520190900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cgolds-20240522084800-Cgolds-20240520190900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cgolds-20240522084800-Cgolds-20240520190900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cgolds-20240522192100-Cgolds-20240522084800"></span>Re-bonsoir (désolée pour le tutoiement, je m'égare un peu entre les langues). Je n'ai pas bien compris. Un lycée n'est pas un équipement scolaire. "Equipement scolaire", c'est plutôt le tableau noir, ou le cartable, ou un gymnase, dans un lycée par exemple. Je suis prête à laisser aussi cela pour les lycées, mais amha, pas seulement. Il faut une description plus intellectuelle aussi, comme établissement de formation, ou établissement scolaire, si vous n'aimez pas "institution de formation". Beaucoup de lycées français ont changé de lieu, de bâtiment, et d'équipement, sans changer nécessairement de corps enseignant, ni de modèle éducatif etc. On pourrait aussi simplement mettre "lycée" (Q16463) comme nature de l'élément, c'est le plus simple et cela donne la bonne classe. Le 2e problème est que pour le moment "équipement scolaire" n'est pas admis comme valeur pour "scolarité". Et lycée non plus je crois (alors que séminaire, université, institut technique, etc, le sont). Quelle que ce soit la solution, il faut que "scolarité" l'accepte. Cordialement, <a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Cgolds-20240522192100-Cgolds-20240522084800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cgolds-20240522192100-Cgolds-20240522084800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cgolds-20240522192100-Cgolds-20240522084800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cgolds-20240522195600-Cgolds-20240522192100"></span>Ah, deux "équipement scolaire". Argh...:) Bon, en tout cas, cela marche pour "scolarité" maintenant, merci beaucoup. J'ai même compris je pense comment faire cela la prochaine fois. Je reste peu convaincue par la description "équipement scolaire", que je trouve peu intuitive. Un problème sérieux sur Wikidata est le manque de coordination entre personnes issues de plusieurs pays et cultures, sur des sujets comme celui-ci. Le système éducatif français est incompréhensible pour beaucoup (pour de bonnes raisons) et du coup il faut sans cesse corriger des attributions fausses (les universités par exemple qui changent de nom et de périmètre bien trop souvent). Et il ne semble pas y avoir une liste claire de décisions prises pour savoir comment remplir correctement les choses. Bon, en tout cas merci de tout ce travail. Bonne continuation. <a href="/wiki/User:Cgolds" title="User:Cgolds">Cgolds</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cgolds" title="User talk:Cgolds"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Cgolds-20240522195600-Cgolds-20240522192100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cgolds-20240522195600-Cgolds-20240522192100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cgolds-20240522195600-Cgolds-20240522192100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?-20240521202600"><span id="Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?-20240521202600"></span>Imports incorrects de SIRENE ?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?-20240521202600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Imports incorrects de SIRENE ?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FreeCorp-20240521202600-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?"></span>Bonjour, </p><p>Je ne comprends pas comment "Éditions Perrin" a pu obtenir, par une <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3579473&diff=prev&oldid=1679324150">modification de votre part</a>, l'identifiant SIREN 440241461 <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://annuaire-entreprises.data.gouv.fr/entreprise/440241461">qui correspond à</a> un "Fonds de placement et entités financières similaires" situé à Anglet et créé en 2001, et à <a class="external text" href="https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q3579473&diff=prev&oldid=1671282344">définir son secteur d'activité économique</a> comme « hébergement touristique et autre hébergement de courte durée » ? </p><p>Au vu de précédentes déductions farfelues tirées de bases de données publiques (cf ci-dessus les sujets sur Dunkerque, Mâcon et « Dates de création de villes »), je crains que cet exemple d'erreur ne soit, une fois encore, pas unique. Serait-il possible de le corriger et de revoir la procédure qui a conduit à cette erreur, afin d'éventuellement en identifier et corriger d'autres ? </p><p>Dans ce cas précis, j'imagine que les informations aidant à corriger cette erreur précise sur la maison d'édition Perrin sont sur <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.pappers.fr/entreprise/sogedif-377768379">cette page</a>. </p><p>Merci d'avance ! </p><p>-- <a href="/wiki/User:FreeCorp" title="User:FreeCorp">FreeCorp</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FreeCorp" title="User talk:FreeCorp"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-FreeCorp-20240521202600-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FreeCorp-20240521202600-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FreeCorp-20240521202600-Imports_incorrects_de_SIRENE_?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Companies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Companies-20240703194300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Companies-20240703194300"></span>Companies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Companies-20240703194300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Companies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bernice_Heiderman-20240703194300-Companies"></span>Hi Arpyia, </p><p>please don't tag mass-imported companies like <a href="/wiki/Q126872095" title="Q126872095">Q126872095</a> as P31:<a href="/wiki/Q43229" title="Q43229">organization <small>(Q43229)</small></a>! </p><p>Thank you in advance--<a href="/wiki/User:Bernice_Heiderman" title="User:Bernice Heiderman">Bernice Heiderman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bernice_Heiderman" title="User talk:Bernice Heiderman"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Bernice_Heiderman-20240703194300-Companies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bernice_Heiderman-20240703194300-Companies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bernice_Heiderman-20240703194300-Companies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Organisations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Organisations-20241023094300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Organisations-20241023094300"></span>Organisations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Organisations-20241023094300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Arpyia&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: Organisations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bob08-20241023094300-Organisations"></span>Bonjour @<a href="/wiki/User:Arpyia" title="User:Arpyia">Arpyia</a>, </p><p>Avant de créer de nouvelles entités juridiques, peux-tu contrôler qu'il n'existe pas déjà des éléments déclarant le même numéro de SIREN (P1616) ? Tu as créé pas mal de doublons (exemple : <a href="/wiki/Q51275641" title="Q51275641">Dupliprint <small>(Q51275641)</small></a>. et <a href="/wiki/Q130586594" class="mw-redirect" title="Q130586594">Dupliprint <small>(Q130586594)</small></a> qu'il va être fastidieux de fusionner proprement. </p><p>Par ailleurs, la remarque précédente est tout à fait justifiée : la nature organisation (Q43229) est trop vague. </p><p>Cordialement, </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Bob08" title="User:Bob08">Bob08</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bob08" title="User talk:Bob08"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Arpyia#c-Bob08-20241023094300-Organisations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bob08-20241023094300-Organisations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-VIGNERON-20241026122400-Écoles"></span>Salut, </p><p>Pour information, et comme on en parlait le mois dernier, je viens de remplacer tout les <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small>(P31)</small></a></span><span class="object">école primaire en France</span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130"> par <span class="statement"><span class="predicate"><a href="/wiki/Property:P31" title="Property:P31">instance of <small>(P31)</small></a></span><span class="object"><a href="/wiki/Q20860083" title="Q20860083">educational facility <small>(Q20860083)</small></a></span></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r2202089130">. </p><p>Cdlt, <a href="/wiki/User:VIGNERON" title="User:VIGNERON">VIGNERON</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:VIGNERON" title="User talk:VIGNERON"><span 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