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id="h-Discussion_averta-20221121102200"></span>Discussion averta<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_averta-20221121102200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p>La discussion la restarà averta per 15 dì, in del cors di quai se crecarà un'acord. Se 'l restarà un quaivun contra se dervirà la votazzion. In la votazzion domà i utent con <b><a href="/wiki/Wikizzionari:Dirit_de_voto" title="Wikizzionari:Dirit de voto">Wikizzionari:Dirit de voto</a></b> i poden votà. </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-Discussion_averta-20221121102200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-Discussion_averta-20221121102200"></span>Argoment de la discussion:grafij acetaa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-Discussion_averta-20221121102200"></span></h3></div> <p>la lengua lombarda, el se sa, in del cors de la soa storia la gh'ha mai avuu on standard scritt finna a la creazion de l'ortografia <a href="/wiki/Jut:Scriver_Lombard" class="mw-redirect" title="Jut:Scriver Lombard">Scriv Lombard</a> e poeu de la <a href="/wiki/Jut:Noeuva_Ortografia_Lombarda" class="mw-redirect" title="Jut:Noeuva Ortografia Lombarda">Noeuva Ortografia Lombarda</a>. Per quest al dì d'incoeu in su la <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lmo:" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:lmo:">Wikipedia in lengua lombarda</a> inn accettaa do ortografij panlombard principai (Scriv Lombard e Noeuva Ortografia Lombarda) anca di ortografij locaj, ma minga tucc. El wikizzionari, traa in pee cont el fin de favorì on standard scritt de la lengua lombarda l'acetta domà i do ortografij panlombard principaj per scriv el titol di vôs e per i definizion. De dent in di vos, poeu, in de la <a href="/wiki/Jut:Domande_frequente_sora_la_lengua_lombarda#Comè_che_se_indichen_di_dialet_diversi_dent_in_una_stessa_pagina?" title="Jut:Domande frequente sora la lengua lombarda">tabella di variant</a> se poden giontà i vari dialett e i vari grafij che sien compres tra <a href="/wiki/Jut:Grafie_acetade" title="Jut:Grafie acetade">quej accettaa</a>. </p><p>L'è anca vera però che gh'inn tanti alter grafij pussee de quej acetaa. In la red se troeuven l <a href="/wiki/Jut:Font_disponibil_in_su_la_red" title="Jut:Font disponibil in su la red">tanti dizionari scritt in ortografij sul gust de quella milanesa ma ciaschedun de lor a la soa moda</a>. A l'è on rebellot ortografich. </p><p>A proibì de scriv con 'sti grafij chì se perden 'sti moeud de scriv che purtropp per certi dialett al dì d'incoeu resten la risorsa principala de la red. A trà dent 'sti ortografij chì tra quei locaj accettaa se fà su domà on rebellot perché se slonga trop la tabella di variant e donca se bordega la pagina. </p><p>Gh'è però ona terza possibilitaa. Permett la creazion de sotpagin destaccaa de la pagina de la vôs, domà per podé scriv se vun el voeur anca di grafij de poca importanza. </p><p>In questa manera chì se rivarìss a creà ona classifica di grafij: </p> <ul><li>Grafij de <b>primm rango</b>: domà i grafij panlombard accettaa (con queste chì se poden scriver el titol de la vôs e i definizion)</li> <li>Grafij de <b>segond rango</b>: i grafij locaj ma domà quej pussee important (con questi grafij chì se pò impienì la tabella di variant)</li> <li>Grafij de <b>terz rango</b>: questi grafij chì inn minga permettuu in di vos ma se po pensà de trà in pee di tabell in di sotpaginl se vun el voeur.</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading4"><h4 id="...donca" data-mw-thread-id="h-...donca-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-20221121102200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-...donca-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-20221121102200"></span>...donca<span data-mw-comment-end="h-...donca-Argoment_de_la_discussion:grafij_acetaa-20221121102200"></span></h4></div> <ol><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221121102200-...donca"></span>Prima de tutt ve domandi se ne pensee de la classificazion di grafij in "primm rango", "second rango" e "terz rango" e de la gionta del terzo rango.</li> <li>Poeu ve domandi se ne pensee a proposit del giontà come grafij de terz rango quej dei <a href="/wiki/Jut:Font_disponibil_in_su_la_red" title="Jut:Font disponibil in su la red">dizionari in linea</a> e minga classificaa in di alter du ranghi.</li> <li>Infin ve domandi se'n pensee di <a href="/wiki/Jut:Grafie_acetade" title="Jut:Grafie acetade">grafij accettaa incoeu</a> o se l'è mej trann via ona quaivuna tra quej locaj accettaa e magara spostaj in del terz rango di trà in pee (terz rango = acetade domà in sotpagine).</li></ol> <p>--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221121102200-...donca" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 21 nov 2022 (CET)</a> (Test original in <a href="/wiki/Apendice:Noeuva_Ortografia_Lombarda" title="Apendice:Noeuva Ortografia Lombarda">Noeuva Ortografia Lombarda</a> che l'è stad voltad senza reson in ortografia milanesa classica de l'utent anonim <a href="/wiki/Special:Contrib%C3%BBti/93.38.49.72" title="Special:Contribûti/93.38.49.72">93.38.49.72</a>)<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221121102200-...donca"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221121102200-...donca"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Coment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Coment-Discussion_averta-20221122081400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Coment-Discussion_averta-20221122081400"></span>Coment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Coment-Discussion_averta-20221122081400"></span></h3></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glz19-20221122081400-Coment"></span>- Mé sont contrare a jontar ol "terz grado", se de no al vegneress for un rebellot inutel (e qest al respond ai prim duu ponts). Intra i grafie acetade a'l dé d'incœ, cirqeress de capir se efetivament g'è dei diferenze sostanziai intra la grafia ticinesa e 'l lesseg dialetal de la Svizera italiana... Se ge n'è miga l'è inutel hir-g la division. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Glz19" title="Ciciarada Utent:Glz19">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Glz19-20221122081400-Coment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:14, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glz19-20221122081400-Coment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glz19-20221122081400-Coment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122091700-Glz19-20221122081400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: Va ben, gh'hem però de decider che ortografie tegnì foeura de quei acetade: Mi disaria de tegnì dent de sicur tute quei che i gh'hann havud ona leteradura. el par che gh'habien minga ona leteradura quei de la valtelina e quella pavesa. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122091700-Glz19-20221122081400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122091700-Glz19-20221122081400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122091700-Glz19-20221122081400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122102400-Glz19-20221122081400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: A la fin mi disaria domà de sgiontà domà l'<b>ortografia cremonesa</b> a quei locai acetade. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122102400-Glz19-20221122081400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122102400-Glz19-20221122081400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122102400-Glz19-20221122081400"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glz19-20221122121600-Gat_lombard-20221122102400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: Per mé al va ben. Heet vardad per la quistion de la dobia ortogradia ticinesa? --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Glz19" title="Ciciarada Utent:Glz19">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Glz19-20221122121600-Gat_lombard-20221122102400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glz19-20221122121600-Gat_lombard-20221122102400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glz19-20221122121600-Gat_lombard-20221122102400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122122600-Glz19-20221122121600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: El par che sien do ortografie diferente desgà che voeuna l'è nassuda ona centena d'ann inanz de l'altra. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122122600-Glz19-20221122121600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:26, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122122600-Glz19-20221122121600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122122600-Glz19-20221122121600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122123100-Gat_lombard-20221122122600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: Hoo classificad i ortografie per importanza <a href="/wiki/Jut:Grafie_acetade" title="Jut:Grafie acetade">chichinscì</a> e <a href="/wiki/Jut:Font_disponibil_in_su_la_red" title="Jut:Font disponibil in su la red">chichinscì</a> e 'l par che ghe sien di grafie acetade domà perché a inn stade drovade in su wikipedia in temp indree ma che adess se usen pù e alter de la stessa importanza che a inn nò acetade, ma el problema per adess el gh'è nò perché tant nissun je sgionta in sul wikizzionari. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122123100-Gat_lombard-20221122122600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122123100-Gat_lombard-20221122122600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122123100-Gat_lombard-20221122122600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glz19-20221122152800-Gat_lombard-20221122123100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: Boh, a vardar-g i me sœmea prope l'istess lavor... Anca perqé ol LSI l'è una publegazion, miga una grafia, e 'l vocabolare del 1907 (qe l'è a la bas de l'ortografia ticinesa) l'è stait dovrad come font <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www4.ti.ch/decs/dcsu/cde/pubblicazioni/lessico-dialettale-della-svizzera-italiana/">[1]</a> --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Glz19" title="Ciciarada Utent:Glz19">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Glz19-20221122152800-Gat_lombard-20221122123100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:28, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glz19-20221122152800-Gat_lombard-20221122123100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glz19-20221122152800-Gat_lombard-20221122123100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122154600-Glz19-20221122152800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: Però in su la Wikipedia i do grafie i gh'hann du pagine deperlore e i articoi in marcad come scrivud in LSI, in ogni modo questa roba chì l'è domà de capì e agì de conseguenza. --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122154600-Glz19-20221122152800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122154600-Glz19-20221122152800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122154600-Glz19-20221122152800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glz19-20221122170300-Coment"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: In su la Wikipedia però g'è la pajina de la <i>grafia</i> ticinesa e qella della LSI (ma miga come grafia, come publegazion). Dixem qe l'è strana la cerna de la Wikipedia de ciamar la grafia <i>LSI</i>, forse (a l'epoca) per destinguir-la de la insé-ciamada "koiné de la ferrovia", qe adess l'è plu acetada --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Glz19" title="Ciciarada Utent:Glz19">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Glz19-20221122170300-Coment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:03, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glz19-20221122170300-Coment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glz19-20221122170300-Coment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122171000-Glz19-20221122170300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: Speci on quaivun che 'l ne sa pussee. Se a inn l'istess grafia ai meti insema volontera --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221122171000-Glz19-20221122170300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 22 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221122171000-Glz19-20221122170300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221122171000-Glz19-20221122170300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221128160800-Gat_lombard-20221122171000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: A ghe l'hoo domandad al @<a href="/wiki/Utent:Sciking" title="Utent:Sciking">Sciking</a>: in su la <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lmo:Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:lmo:Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">wikipedia</a> che l'ha respondud "In teoria la LSI l'è quella del vocabolari menter la ticinesa l'è quèlla fonetega doperada in Ticin, che la vegn de la LSI"--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221128160800-Gat_lombard-20221122171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 28 nov 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221128160800-Gat_lombard-20221122171000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221128160800-Gat_lombard-20221122171000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Glz19-20221202233300-Gat_lombard-20221128160800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a>: Vest la risposta sont semper plussee convint qe i sies l'istess lavor... Capesse miga la diferenza --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Glz19" title="Ciciarada Utent:Glz19">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Glz19-20221202233300-Gat_lombard-20221128160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 3 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Glz19-20221202233300-Gat_lombard-20221128160800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Glz19-20221202233300-Gat_lombard-20221128160800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221206105000-Glz19-20221202233300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/Utent:Glz19" title="Utent:Glz19">Glz19</a>: El sondagg l'è sarrad e donca la modifica de la pagina l'è stada blocada. La discussion sora la differenza infra l'ortografia Ticinesa e l'LSI l'è domà ona question minga ciara de risolver e la pò andà inanz in d'on'altra part.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221206105000-Glz19-20221202233300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 6 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221206105000-Glz19-20221202233300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221206105000-Glz19-20221202233300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)-20221206103700"><span id="Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_.28ciciarade.29_11:37.2C_6_des_2022_.28CET.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)-20221206103700"></span>Discussion sarrada --<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) 11:37, 6 des 2022 (CET)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)-20221206103700"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gat_lombard-20221206103700-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)"></span>L'<b>ortografia classica cremonesa</b> la sarà acetada in la tabella di variant, donca l'è sgiontada in la pagina <a href="/wiki/Jut:Grafie_acetade" title="Jut:Grafie acetade">Jut:Grafie acetade</a> dedent de la tabella di ortografia locai acetade.--<a href="/wiki/Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Utent:Gat lombard">Gat lombard</a> (<a href="/wiki/Ciciarada_Utent:Gat_lombard" title="Ciciarada Utent:Gat lombard">ciciarade</a>) <a href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54#c-Gat_lombard-20221206103700-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 6 des 2022 (CET)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gat_lombard-20221206103700-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">rispond</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gat_lombard-20221206103700-Discussion_sarrada_--Gat_lombard_(ciciarade)_11:37,_6_des_2022_(CET)"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Recuperad de "<a dir="ltr" href="https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54&oldid=235912">https://lmo.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikizzionari:Sondagg/Sondagg_del_21_-_11_-_2022_-_09:54&oldid=235912</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Special:Categurij" title="Special:Categurij">Categoria</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Categoria:Sondagg_del_2022" title="Categoria:Sondagg del 2022">Sondagg del 2022</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> 'Sta pagina chì l'è stada modifegada l'ultima volta el 4 sgiu 2023, ai ore 10:57.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">El test l'è disponibil sota la licenza <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; a podarissen vesser aplicad di termin de sgionta. 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