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<dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=136339_1403804323.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">laerne</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=136339&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">18</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 2nd, 2014, 11:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694706"> <h3 class="first"> <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694706&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694706">Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694706&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button 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class="text-italics">Why are you play a proprietary final fantasy XIV instead of something open source like wesnoth ?</em> ”<br> “ <em class="text-italics">I can' t. There aren't any catgirls in wesnoth.</em> ”<br> <br> Well, I had no further replies, so I guess this slowly escalated in my mind until I'm here to address that injustice.<br> <br> My interest is primarily making the art, although I'm coding also the minimum WML to have it running. Hopefully I'll convince my friend of find someone else to balance the units. I'm doing it primarily doing this for me and my friend (it's a surprise) but since I'm basically a beginner in pixel art, I suppose I'm also open for critique. I say "I suppose" because my focus will be more on the production than the perfection here, but hey, if the art is broken, it's broken.<br> <br> As for the addon itself, well, no choices, it's going to be a single multiplayer faction with a bunch of literal cat-ladies, that's the external constraint I assumed. However on top of that I was thinking about theming them in something inspired by the Indian subcontinent. Why ? Because it's different from England, Germany, Japan and that weird blend of middle-eastern setings most fantasy universes seems to get inspired from, because I found the idea of using chakrams interesting and because why not ?<br> <br> First unit is a chakram warrior, that is proficient both in melee and range. Here's three concept art I made (I made some uglier and rougher ones before that too). Maybe I'll make more concepts (andy maybe they'll look less like dancing...), maybe I'll colorize one of those to make it a unit portrait art, I don't know.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="thumbnail"> <dt><a href="./download/file.php?id=98411&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9&mode=view"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98411&t=1&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="concepts 1,2,3.jpg" title="concepts 1,2,3.jpg (173.59 KiB) Viewed 831 times" /></a></dt> </dl> </div> Here is a photo of my attempt to figure out how I should animate that unit for running and standing. I made the heads too large, but that's not a big issue, since it doesn't change the perpective of anything.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="thumbnail"> <dt><a href="./download/file.php?id=98412&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9&mode=view"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98412&t=1&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="photo animation 1.jpg" title="photo animation 1.jpg (1.45 MiB) Viewed 831 times" /></a></dt> </dl> </div> And here is the base sprite I came up with (so far). I stumble a bit on an issue when coloring the Shalwar kameez (the clothes) : using bright colors feels much more thematic to my indian inspiration, however the wrong bright color can be misread as another team... I went with this "indian yellow" because : <ul> <li>It's bright, not muted.</li> <li>There doesn't seem to be a "yellow" color team, only an orange one.</li> <li>Using the same colors for the scarf, shirt and pants seems too uniform; it almost looks like pajamas.</li> </ul> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98413&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_warrior.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_warrior.png (11.1 KiB) Viewed 831 times</dd> </dl> </div> Here it is in for team blue: <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98415&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_warrior.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_warrior.png (11.41 KiB) Viewed 831 times</dd> </dl> </div> Here is an earlier version with a more realistic pose that better match the sketched animation layout I photographed above. However it seemed really hard to read what the left arm of the unit was, so I changed it. <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98416&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_units.2024-11-11--18-06.bak.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_units.2024-11-11--18-06.bak.png (10.81 KiB) Viewed 831 times</dd> </dl> </div> I quickly tried today to make a standing animation as well. It's weird and janky and I'll definitively change it. The arms don't seem to have the same consistent thickness, the amplitude of motion seems too large, and the tail is maybe missing 2-4 frames to feel smooth enough ? Unless you count test-turning a cube in blender, It's my first animation ever, so i'm not sure what's wrong and what's the best fix. Let me show you what I have already.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98414&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_warrior.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_warrior.gif (16.54 KiB) Viewed 831 times</dd> </dl> </div> I must admit it's a bit intimidating to post alongside quite talented pixel artists but I hope you'll take interest regardless of my level.<br> <br> Thanks for reading me !<br> <br> PS: Oh, and I ended up doing those pixel art on krita on linux. So much for that conversation.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694707" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694707"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131690&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Deciton_Reven</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=131690&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">103</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 6th, 2012, 4:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694707"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694707&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694707">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694707&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694707&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694707" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=131690&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Deciton_Reven</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-14T02:46:14+00:00">November 14th, 2024, 2:46 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Of course there is a catgirl faction in Wesnoth, just tucked away in the Era of Horrors UMC. They lean more girl than cat looks wise and are more of an early nomadic hunter-gatherer inspiration for their faction, so more takes on the ideas is welcome of course. Artwise they aren't really mainline styled, though, so if you want some inspiration on that side, the Vixens from the Rashy Era do a really good job of dynamic poses in a mainline style. Again though they look more girl than fox though.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694710" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694710"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=256327_1717929531.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">DuncanDill</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=256327&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">136</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 30th, 2022, 11:57 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Knagla, the evil twin sister of Knalga...</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694710"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694710&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694710">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694710&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694710&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694710" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">DuncanDill</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-14T06:49:11+00:00">November 14th, 2024, 6:49 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Whelp you're already better than me if you can animate. These look great! My only critique would be on some of the shading. I will try post some different shading that is more common across wesnoth art and such.</div> <div id="sig694710" class="signature"><a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573</a> Curent Maintainer of Talentless Mage<br> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462</a> Gaze at my art :D</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694711" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694711"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=258169_1731505789.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Refumee</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=258169&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">210</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 12th, 2023, 10:17 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Vendraxis' Lair</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694711"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694711&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694711">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694711&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694711&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694711" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Refumee</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-14T06:50:47+00:00">November 14th, 2024, 6:50 am</time> </p> <div class="content">@Laerne<br> Your cat girls look awesome! You don't need to hide your creations <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> I am looking forward for a full faction. Keep on the good work!<br> <br> There is also another catgirl faction, the vixens:<br> <a href="https://units.wesnoth.org/1.12/Rashy_Era/en_US/era_R_default.html#Vixens" class="postlink">https://units.wesnoth.org/1.12/Rashy_Er ... tml#Vixens</a><br> <br> I don't wanna discredit the author of creations of the Vixens, but yours look more like a wesnothian faction (artstyle).<br> <br> Edit: Those are Foxgirls.</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98421&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="add-ons$Rashy_Era$images$units$vixens$shaman.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>add-ons$Rashy_Era$images$units$vixens$shaman.png (1019 Bytes) Viewed 765 times</dd> </dl> </dd> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98420&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" 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pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Meow! The more the merrier. I knew of the Era of Horrors catgirls too (got a hundreds of turns long game on a Dominus map going with them for years now) but Rashy's vixens are a surprise, not sure how I've not played with them yet. Vixen=female fox btw so it does make sense they're foxgirls. : ) Real foxes are pretty catlike anyways. Darling critters.<br> <br> Also glad to hear yellow team colour is making a return! You can search the forums and find the odd history of it. I used to sub "gold" (which is yellow renamed and shuffled off past the first 9 colours) for black in the past by editing the files. Now I just edit the file to enable more than 9 (default) team colours (since more than 9 teams are usable since 1.14 it is a good idea).</div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt><img src="./images/upload_icons/txt.gif" alt="" /> <a class="postlink" href="./download/file.php?id=98425&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">team-colors.cfg</a></dt> <dd><em>Edited file for maximum team colours</em></dd> <dd>(12.17 KiB) Downloaded 15 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180204&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Atreides</a> on November 17th, 2024, 6:23 pm, edited 1 time in total. </div> <div id="sig694734" class="signature">-- <br> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=662182#p662182" class="postlink">Lonely Era</a> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=662897#p662897" class="postlink">Merry Christmas Campaign</a> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=663269#p663269" class="postlink">Red MP Maps</a> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=665210#p665210" class="postlink">Everfell</a> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=665296#p665296" class="postlink">Age of Trials</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694735" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694735"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=136339_1403804323.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">laerne</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=136339&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">18</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 2nd, 2014, 11:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694735"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694735&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694735">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694735&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694735&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694735" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">laerne</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-15T01:04:12+00:00">November 15th, 2024, 1:04 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Thanks all for the support <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title="Smile"><br> <br> DecitonRaven: Oh, well maybe I should have check first. But hey, doing it by myself will be a much bigger argument playing wesnoth to my friend.<br> <br> DuncanDill: Oh, I'm curious what you'd change. I'm certainly having trouble balancing between having the sprites feel 3D and well delimited/"stroked".<br> <br> <br> Refumee: Yes, I do try to keep the art close to the official ones of wesnoth. There's a pin-a-reference in krita which is so useful (and you can even color-sample from it) that so useful to keep everything together <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_smile2.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="^_^" title="Smile"> <br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="thumbnail"> <dt><a href="./download/file.php?id=98426&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9&mode=view"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98426&t=1&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="Screenshot from 2024-11-15 01-42-15.png" title="Screenshot from 2024-11-15 01-42-15.png (260.09 KiB) Viewed 595 times" /></a></dt> </dl> </div> Refumee + Ravana + Atreides: I didn't know about that wespal tool... would have helped me not to wrote a python script to convert those colors ^^' Oh, well it's still useful to generate the sprite for the animte script I also wrote.<br> <br> So yellow/gold is coming "back" as its team color ? Um... I might need to change the shirt color indeed then. Maybe I can cheat by using dark "team colors" for the pants and brighters ones for the shirt ? Or maybe it'll help me to have two use two colors per team : a "team color" and a contrasty "complement" color (Of which I'd do only 3-4) Is there a way to specify a manual way in WML to recolor some, let's say cyan, pixels, to a custom `[color_range]` (which I'm discovering is actually set in WML).<br> <br> Finally: I did try to animate the unit a bit better, here is what I came up with: <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98427&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_warrior.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_warrior.gif (26.46 KiB) Viewed 595 times</dd> </dl> </div> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98428&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_warrior.gif" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_warrior.gif (26.18 KiB) Viewed 595 times</dd> </dl> </div> There's two pose variations and six frames for raising the chakram, but only one variation and two frames to lower it. I think I need to make as many frame and variations lowering it than raising it.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694738" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694738"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=258169_1731505789.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Refumee</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=258169&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">210</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 12th, 2023, 10:17 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Vendraxis' Lair</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694738"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694738&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694738">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694738&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694738&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694738" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=258169&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">Refumee</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-15T08:04:11+00:00">November 15th, 2024, 8:04 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote cite="./viewtopic.php?p=694734&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694734"><div><cite><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180204&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">Atreides</a> wrote: <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694734&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694734" data-post-id="694734" onclick="if(document.getElementById(hash.substr(1)))href=hash">↑</a><span class="responsive-hide">November 14th, 2024, 11:38 pm</span></cite> Meow! The more the merrier. I knew of the Era of Horrors catgirls too (got a hundreds of turns long game on a Dominus map going with them for years now) but Rashy's vixens are a surprise, not sure how I've not played with them yet. Vixen=female fox btw so it does make sense they're foxgirls. : ) Real foxes are pretty catlike anyways. Darling critters.<br> <br> Also glad to hear yellow team colour is making a return! You can search the forums and find the odd history of it. I used to sub "gold" (which is yellow renamed and shuffled off past the first 9 colours) for black in the past by editing the files. Now I just edit the file to enable more than 9 team colours (since more than 9 teams are usable since 1.14 it is a good idea). </div></blockquote> Makisu also made a pretty Vixen<br> <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=41363&start=105" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?t=41363&start=105</a></div> <dl class="attachbox"> <dt> Attachments </dt> <dd> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98431&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="002b.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>002b.png (12.7 KiB) Viewed 495 times</dd> </dl> </dd> </dl> <div id="sig694738" class="signature">Campaigns:<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=56726" class="postlink">Vendraxis Prophecy</a><br> Porting:<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=42731" class="postlink">Across the Ocean</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=9187" class="postlink">Forgotten Legacy</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=41463" class="postlink">Oath of Allegiance</a><br> Modification:<a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58752" class="postlink"> Saurian Scale Color Changer</a>, <a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?t=58752" class="postlink"> Saurian Scale Randomizer</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694746" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694746"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=256327_1717929531.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">DuncanDill</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=256327&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">136</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> December 30th, 2022, 11:57 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Knagla, the evil twin sister of Knalga...</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694746"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694746&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694746">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694746&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694746&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694746" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=256327&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">DuncanDill</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-15T20:26:43+00:00">November 15th, 2024, 8:26 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">Here we go <img class="smilies" src="./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" width="15" height="15" alt=":D" title="Very Happy"> I just changed the shading to be a bit more consistent across the whole thing as well as adding a rim light to elevate the 3d ness<div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98435&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="catgirl.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>catgirl.png (3.07 KiB) Viewed 379 times</dd> </dl> </div> It also has the colour pallete I used. I changed some of the metal shading, and the hair. The legs and tail where incredibly well done, I didnt touch those at all</div> <div id="sig694746" class="signature"><a href="https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=690573#p690573</a> Curent Maintainer of Talentless Mage<br> <a href="viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462" class="postlink">viewtopic.php?p=689462#p689462</a> Gaze at my art :D</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p694916" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile694916"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=136339_1403804323.png" width="72" height="72" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">laerne</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=136339&sr=posts&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9">18</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> January 2nd, 2014, 11:49 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content694916"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=694916&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694916">Re: Catgirls</a> </h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="./posting.php?mode=quote&p=694916&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" title="Reply with quote" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Quote</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=694916&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9#p694916" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=136339&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="username">laerne</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2024-11-24T00:59:36+00:00">Yesterday, 12:59 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Hello.<br> <br> I really like how you added shades of teals and blues in the dark tones, it really makes them pop. I also like how made the metallic chakram flat but light-on-top and dark-on-bottom, it really makes less of a torus and more of a flat circle.<br> <br> I tried to incorporate your suggestions, but I like the big eyes, I dunno, I like 'em.<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98511&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_units3.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_units3.png (11.41 KiB) Viewed 91 times</dd> </dl> </div> Also, I'm trying to do the double-recolor, but I'm having trouble having the WML work for it:<br> <div class="inline-attachment"> <dl class="file"> <dt class="attach-image"><img src="./download/file.php?id=98512&sid=3eb761524498b9858f42b060e61962d9" class="postimage" alt="chakram_units4.png" onclick="viewableArea(this);" /></dt> <dd>chakram_units4.png (11.3 KiB) Viewed 91 times</dd> </dl> </div> I'm going to open a topic on the WML Workshop.</div> 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