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You can do it. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Elsabio</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;6:24 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Bing a graduate of the Y and living in Utah, I will be watching the Utes and cheering wildly for them. I hope they crush Navy and get their 9th win. They are a great team with the highest quality of players and coaches. I will bleed red on the day of the game. Go Utes!!!!!!!!!!!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Ron in OC</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;7:20 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I hope both Utah and BYU win. Go Utes - Go Cougars </div> </div> <div class="continue"> Comments continue below </div> <div id="ad_300" class="ad"> <div id="ad6Sp"></div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>wayne</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;7:57 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Who cares about the game since we can&#39;t watch it on regular TV. It is getting to all be about money. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re: wayne</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;8:03 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> If you regular TV has ESPN, which most do, you will be able to watch the game...so much whining. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>ASIATA and CASTEEL!!!!!</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;8:19 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Good to hear Asiata and Casteel are on the mend. They will both be huge factors next season. <br><br>Does anyone know if we will get 2 more years out of both? I&#39;m sure we will with Asiata but Casteel might not. Hopefully the NCAA gives him a medical rs. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>UteFan</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;8:39 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> That is good news about Casteel and Asiata - I agree with the earlier comment that they will both be key next year. I hope they both get a medical redshirt - love to have them around as long as they can stay! Let&#39;s get those 9 wins. Given everything, it really was a great year. Go Utes!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>blah blah blah</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;9:02 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The same old blah blah blah. Utah will win because they are playing a terrible team (Navy ranked #72 in Sagarin Ratings). Just like they won all the other bowl games against poor competition since none of their opposition except AZ in the 90&#39;s ended the season in the top 25. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Respect</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;9:16 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Typically, I cheer for Navy because I was a Navy Brat, but since they beat Notre Dame this year and can top that as a highlight, I&#39;m hoping Utah and all other MWC teams win their bowl games. I think the Utes ahve a great chance, because their approach to bowl games has always been &quot;go for it.&quot; I think BYU now has that attitude, where in the past it was, well, this is a reward for a good season, and that&#39;s good enough. I don&#39;t think that is the mentality of the current coaches. At least, I hope not. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Stunned observer</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;9:23 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Just the sixth team to win 9 games. Wow, what a powerful football program Utah has established. With such a great history, I can now see why they complain about never getting any respect. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Go Utes</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;9:50 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Hey stunned observer - observe this: 52-33-4.<br><br>Oh that&#39;s right, I forgot: Football didn&#39;t exist before 1974. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Stunned observer</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;10:39 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> And apparently for Utah fans football only exists against one team. I suppose that is ok if it is the best you can do is hope to win 9 games a season. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>&#39;tis the season...</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;10:58 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I love December bowl games. I typically root for the underdogs in the matchups, however, I always root for BYU and Utah to win their bowl games. Go Cougs, Utes!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re blah blah blah</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:21 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> You post this every day on an article about Utah football. And I guess I&#39;m supposed to believe you aren&#39;t obsessed with Utah - it&#39;s only Ute fans that are obsessed with BYU, right?<br><br>It is true that Utah has only beaten one team in a bowl game that ended the season ranked. But, guess what. BYU, who has played a ton more bowl games, only has two victories over teams that ended the season ranked. Both teams have played teams that were ranked at the time of the bowl, and have won those games. But, the loser falls out of the rankings as a result of the loss in the last game of the season.<br><br>That doesn&#39;t mean those teams were bad. GaTech was a good team in 2005. Pitt was a BCS conference champ in 2004. So. Miss. was even a decent team in 2003.<br><br>Oregon was a decent team that BYU beat in 2006. Prior to that, you have to go back to SMU (8-4) in 1980 to find a good team that BYU beat in a bowl game. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Anonymous</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:24 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Well, stunned observer, I&#39;ve actually been quite proud of the Utes performance against BCS schools the past few years. So I don&#39;t know which &quot;one team&quot; you might be referring to. I know the Utes have been about the only MWC school to have much success against BCS opponents.<br><br>Of course, we could also bring up basketball, where the Utes are the only MWC/WAC team to ever give the conference any bragging rights in the NCAA tournament. Other conference schools (again, we won&#39;t mention names) tend to be &quot;one and done.&quot; </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re Stunnded observer</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:24 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> at 10:39 am.<br><br>No, it&#39;s not just Utah&#39;s record against one team.<br><br>Utah&#39;s overall record is 584-415-31 for a 58.2% win rate.<br><br>BYU&#39;s is 473-367-26 for a 56.1% win rate.<br><br>So, it&#39;s success against all the opponents, not just one. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Re: Stunned observer</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:51 a.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> It has only been since 1970 that Utah has played 10 or more games in a season. Prior to that, Utah played between 8 and 11 games each season in the years between 1930 and 1970, and between 2 and 8 games before that. Utah&#39;s all-time winning percentage is .585; its bowl winning percentage is .692.<br><br>BTW, byu-provo&#39;s all-time winning percentage is .563; and its bowl winning percentage is .333.<br><br>Now you have something to be stunned about! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>TucsonUte</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;12:00 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> RE: Stunned observer<br><br>Is it a slow day over at the Cougar comments?<br><br>Utah is a good football program and will continue to be for years to come. I am sure you are over there sweating if Bronco&#39;s ego is going to make him bite on the UCLA job. I would prefer him to stay so when Utah beats the Y next year it will be him on the losing sideline. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Vernal roid</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;1:17 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> The Utes are great at winning Moral Victories.That no one cares about. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Poor sport</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;1:34 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Nice to see cougar fans wishing Utah luck in getting to that 9th win. You are truly good sports! (It chokes me up a bit). I am a little ashamed but I still hope you lose your bowl game to UCLA and get off that high horse of yours. I hope the Lobos lose their bowl as well. I just can&#39;t help it. Too many bad memories with the Y and the &quot;Lowblows&quot; ruining Utah&#39;s football dreams. (Sorry) Merry Christmas though! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Stats</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;1:41 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I&#39;ve never seen so many stats pulled out in the posts section of the Des News. Thats great. The only stat I need, though, is the ratio of homly women to men at the various campuses. BYU ratio: 3 homley woman for every man. Utah ratio: .30 homely woman for every man.<br><br>As for the bowl games, who really cares since both opponents are not great. Cougees, you all know that Utah is a much better post season player than you, and the wins prove it. We all know that Utah&#39;s a better non-conference player than you against BCS (and non-BCS, ie Tulsa) schools. The records prove that too. So, there isn&#39;t really an arguement about that either. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Canuck Cougar</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;2:04 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> I&#39;ll be cheering for both the Utes and Cougs to win their bowl games....can&#39;t understand the negative chirping going on between fans of both schools...both schools have great programs...grow up!!!! </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Dear Stunned observer</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;2:24 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> With how the BCS is set up the best thing that can happen for BYU is for BYU and UTAH to win every game in and out of the conference. Then when both unbeaten teams play it will draw more attention of the nation for both teams (plus proper BCS invite). <br>UTAH NEEDS BYU TO WIN AS MANY GAMES AS POSSIBLE.<br>BYU NEEDS UTAH TO WIN AS MANY GAMES AS POSSIBLE.<br>The MWC does not help either UTAH or BYU. Think about it like property if you have a 500,000$ house in an area where the mean is 250,000$ this will bring the value of that house down. It is the same with BYU and UTAH they are, year in and year out are the flag ship for the MWC. SAD :( </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Can&#39;t we get along</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;2:25 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> As a transplant to Utah, I know I&#39;m suppossed to pick a local team to cheer for. Coming from the mid-west, if a giant crater opened up and swallowed the entire Michigan Football team, or Kentucky&#39;s Basketball team, I think I might rejoice a little bit. So I understand the rivalry of course... <br><br>But as a transplant to the state, I love to see the successes of both programs. This is wonderful to see. BYU has such a wonderful national following and are lots of fun to watch. The Utes are becoming a national power. Both will win their bowl games and have excellent teams again next year.<br><br>I predict both in the top 25, possibly the top 15 for most of the season next year. <br><br>Coming from Big 10 area, BYU and Utah would do just fine in that conference, as well as the PAC 10, Big 12 or any other BCS conference. I get sick of hearing they can only play in the Mountain West - Give me a break!!!<br><br>Go Utes and Cougars </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>David</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;4:52 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> In the final AP poll of the 2004 season, after falling to the Utes in the Fiesta Bowl, Pitt finished ranked #25. Why do Ute and Cougar fans think that only Arizona ended their season in the polls? Neither game was THAT long ago. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Bowl Records</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;6:47 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Blah...Blah...Blah.....how about bowl records...Utah 9-3 and the Cougars a mighty 8-16-1.....I would go out of my way to put the utes down too if I didn&#39;t know anything about football </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>blah blah blah</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;9:54 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> for once you have quieted me. I&#39;ll admit I dont know much about football. I have selected memory, I only remember the 70&#39;s and 80&#39;s. I didnt realize Utah has completely owned us outside of those decades. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>Bowl Records</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:02 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Ok I took some time to research the strength of our bowl opponents and I must admit a 9-3 bowl record doesn&#39;t look so impressive for the Utes after all. When we played big name opponents we got them when they were having really down years. In fact, almost all of Byu&#39;s bowl opponents were ranked higher than what we got, just like this year. Ok I&#39;ll shut up now. </div> </div> <div class="comment"> <div class="commentName"> <b>D-2</b>&nbsp;|&nbsp;11:19 p.m. Dec. 13, 2007 </div> <div class="commentText"> Does anyone else agree that the Utes and the rest of the &quot;mid-major&quot; teams should stop playing NCAA D1 football? Only the BCS schools - which number about half the D1 teams - have a realistic chance of making the real post season. 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