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creation">Evidence against a recent creation</a></b></div> <div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width:162px;"><a href="/wiki/File:Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif" class="image"><img alt="" src="/w/images/thumb/2/22/Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif/160px-Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif" decoding="async" width="160" height="123" class="thumbimage" srcset="/w/images/thumb/2/22/Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif/240px-Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif 1.5x, /w/images/thumb/2/22/Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif/320px-Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif 2x" data-file-width="577" data-file-height="443" /></a> <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify"><a href="/wiki/File:Snider-Pellegrini_Wegener_fossil_map.gif" class="internal" title="Enlarge"></a></div>Fossil find areas connecting across landmasses is among the evidence in support of continental drift.</div></div></div> <p>The <b>evidence against a recent 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With the possible exception of <a href="/wiki/Flat_Earth" title="Flat Earth">Flat Earthism</a>, there is no greater affront to science than <a href="/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism" title="Young Earth creationism">Young Earth creationism</a> (YEC). </p><p>This article collects evidences that place a <i>lower</i> limit on the age of the Universe beyond the 6,000 to 10,000 years asserted by most Young Earth creationists (YECs) and the <a href="/wiki/Biblical_literalism" title="Biblical literalism">literalist</a> <a href="/wiki/Ussher_chronology" class="mw-redirect" title="Ussher chronology">Ussher chronology</a>. All of this evidence supports <a href="/wiki/Deep_time" title="Deep time">deep time</a>: the idea, considered credible by scientists since the early 1800s, that the <a href="/wiki/Earth" title="Earth">Earth</a> (and the Universe) is millions or billions of years old. Modern science accepts that the <a href="/wiki/Earth" title="Earth">Earth</a> is about 4.54 billion years old and the entire <a href="/wiki/Universe" title="Universe">universe</a> is around 13.77 billion years old. </p><p>These limits usually take the form: "Because we observe [X], which occurs at rate [Y], the universe must be <i>at least</i> [Z] years old". There are three standard creationist responses: First, creationists assert that current rates (Y) are different than past rates. It is <i>possible</i> that these rates changed — but under <a href="/wiki/Uniformitarianism" title="Uniformitarianism">uniformitarianism</a>, which is necessary for science to function, <a href="/wiki/Occam%27s_razor" title="Occam's razor">we must assume that rates did not change <i>unless</i> there is evidence for this change</a>. Second, creationists appeal to the <a href="/wiki/Omphalos_hypothesis" title="Omphalos hypothesis">Omphalos hypothesis</a> and argue that <a href="/wiki/God" title="God">God</a> <a href="/wiki/Problem_of_evil" title="Problem of evil">deceptively</a> created the world to appear old. This is an <a href="/wiki/Falsifiability" title="Falsifiability">unfalsifiable</a> hypothesis, and is unscientific. Third, creationists <a href="/wiki/Willful_ignorance" title="Willful ignorance">ignore the evidence</a> and <a href="/wiki/Denialism" title="Denialism">deny that [X] exists altogether</a> or assert that <a href="/wiki/Blind_faith" class="mw-redirect" title="Blind faith">belief in a Young Earth is based on faith, not science</a>. All of these answers are critically flawed. </p><p>These ages weren't <a href="/wiki/PIDOOMA" title="PIDOOMA">just made up</a> — or, worse, <a href="/wiki/Evolution_conspiracy" title="Evolution conspiracy">accepted to "give evolution enough time"</a>. Each was concluded from a range of experiments and observations made across multiple disciplines of science, including <a href="/wiki/Astronomy" title="Astronomy">astronomy</a>, <a href="/wiki/Geology" title="Geology">geology</a>, <a href="/wiki/Biology" title="Biology">biology</a>, <a href="/wiki/Palaeontology" class="mw-redirect" title="Palaeontology">palaeontology</a>, <a href="/wiki/Chemistry" title="Chemistry">chemistry</a>, <a href="/wiki/Geomorphology" class="mw-redirect" title="Geomorphology">geomorphology</a> and <a href="/wiki/Physics" title="Physics">physics</a>. For YEC to be true, each of these fields would have to be incorrect about <i>almost everything</i>. Some of these reported ages have indeed been revised based on new evidence (sometimes larger, sometimes smaller), but <i>never</i> to the <a href="/wiki/Statements_that_are_wrong_on_the_level_of_a_Young_Earth" class="mw-redirect" title="Statements that are wrong on the level of a Young Earth">orders of magnitude required by YEC</a>. </p><p>Moreover, these dating methods are <i>not</i> mutually exclusive: where their range, accuracy, and applicability overlap, the dates they produce <i>agree</i> with each other. (For example, all dating methods for the <a href="/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth" title="Age of the Earth">age of the Earth</a> agree on a 4.4-4.6 billion year-old world.) 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