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Sections older than <b>30 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 4 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)-20241024203300"><span id="Question_from_AnkushMaitra_.2820:33.2C_24_October_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)-20241024203300"></span>Question from <a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">AnkushMaitra</a> (20:33, 24 October 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)-20241024203300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Question from AnkushMaitra (20:33, 24 October 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)"></span>I want to add some information but how --<a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">AnkushMaitra</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AnkushMaitra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:AnkushMaitra (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300-Question_from_AnkushMaitra_(20:33,_24_October_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241024203900-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">AnkushMaitra</a> what do you want to add and where do you want to add it? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241024203900-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241024203900-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241024203900-AnkushMaitra-20241024203300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500-Kvng-20241024203900"></span>my media information in wikipedia wall <a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">AnkushMaitra</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AnkushMaitra&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:AnkushMaitra (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500-Kvng-20241024203900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500-Kvng-20241024203900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500-Kvng-20241024203900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241024223600-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">AnkushMaitra</a> this still isn't making sense to me. I see from your <a href="/wiki/User:AnkushMaitra" title="User:AnkushMaitra">user page</a> that you're interested in Biswa Bangla Tv. I don't know what you mean by <i>wikipedia wall</i>. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241024223600-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241024223600-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241024223600-AnkushMaitra-20241024204500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)-20241026183000"><span id="Question_from_Bolutemi_.2818:30.2C_26_October_2024.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)-20241026183000"></span>Question from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a> (18:30, 26 October 2024)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)-20241026183000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Question from Bolutemi (18:30, 26 October 2024)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bolutemi-20241026183000-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)"></span>Hi Kvng! first time editor here, its nice to connect with you. I'm writing an article at the moment and I don't want to publish it just yet because I'm not entirely done. Is there a way i can save it as a draft and come back to continue editing or what would you recommend I do? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bolutemi" title="User talk:Bolutemi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Bolutemi-20241026183000-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bolutemi-20241026183000-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bolutemi-20241026183000-Question_from_Bolutemi_(18:30,_26_October_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241026184600-Bolutemi-20241026183000"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a>, Welcome!. You can use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard" title="Wikipedia:Article wizard">Article Wizard</a> to create a new draft that will remain active for at least 6 months. You submit it for publication when you're ready. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241026184600-Bolutemi-20241026183000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241026184600-Bolutemi-20241026183000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241026184600-Bolutemi-20241026183000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bolutemi-20241026185500-Kvng-20241026184600"></span>I didn't start this article with Article Wizard. There's nothing i can do to save this draft I currently have opened until later? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bolutemi" title="User talk:Bolutemi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Bolutemi-20241026185500-Kvng-20241026184600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:55, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bolutemi-20241026185500-Kvng-20241026184600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bolutemi-20241026185500-Kvng-20241026184600"></span> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20241026190000-Bolutemi-20241026185500"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> If you save it as a new page, where the title begins with “Draft:“ it’ll get saved as a draft; eg. “Draft:My First Article” <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Danners430-20241026190000-Bolutemi-20241026185500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20241026190000-Bolutemi-20241026185500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20241026190000-Bolutemi-20241026185500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bolutemi-20241026190400-Danners430-20241026190000"></span>How do i save it? I have written a lot right now. i opened Wikipedia on another tab just to see if i can see the draft I'm working on. I can see the draft name but it's an empty page <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bolutemi" title="User talk:Bolutemi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Bolutemi-20241026190400-Danners430-20241026190000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bolutemi-20241026190400-Danners430-20241026190000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bolutemi-20241026190400-Danners430-20241026190000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241026191700-Bolutemi-20241026190400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Bolutemi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Bolutemi (page does not exist)">Bolutemi</a> can you tell us the URL address of the browser page where you've written your article. This should hep us understand what you've done and what to do from here. It alos would be a good idea to do a select all and copy what you've written to a notepad application so you have a backup if needed. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241026191700-Bolutemi-20241026190400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241026191700-Bolutemi-20241026190400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241026191700-Bolutemi-20241026190400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="October_27,_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-October_27,_2024-20241027172200"><span id="October_27.2C_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-October_27,_2024-20241027172200"></span>October 27, 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-October_27,_2024-20241027172200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: October 27, 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiinterU-20241027172200-October_27,_2024"></span>Hello, this is Winter. I have noticed that you have reverted my edit on <a href="/wiki/JBL" title="JBL">JBL</a>. By reverting my edit, you are violating <a href="/wiki/MOS:OL" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:OL">MOS:OL</a> on linking countries, and you are also using the owner field incorrectly. The owner field is not meant to be used to show higher level ownership. The owner is not the owner of the parent company to the subsidiary. Please refrain from further making edits like these. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:WiinterU" title="User:WiinterU"><span style="color: blue">Wii</span></a></sup><small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/WiinterU" title="Special:Contributions/WiinterU"><span style="color: purple">nter</span></a></small><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiinterU" title="User talk:WiinterU"><span style="color: turquoise">U</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-WiinterU-20241027172200-October_27,_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiinterU-20241027172200-October_27,_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiinterU-20241027172200-October_27,_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028005000-WiinterU-20241027172200"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_company#owner" title="Template:Infobox company">documentation</a> for <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|owner=</code>, by my reading, doesn't seem to disallow this use. Do you have a suggestion for another way to indicate that Samsung is the ultimate owner of JBL? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028005000-WiinterU-20241027172200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028005000-WiinterU-20241027172200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028005000-WiinterU-20241027172200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiinterU-20241028125400-Kvng-20241028005000"></span>The company infobox documentation is more of a suggestion of what a person should do. Anyone should just use common knowledge to know that the owner is not the parent company's parent. You can't use the parent tab either, because it absolutely disallows usage. There is no field to show higher level ownership because it is not necessary. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:WiinterU" title="User:WiinterU"><span style="color: blue">Wii</span></a></sup><small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/WiinterU" title="Special:Contributions/WiinterU"><span style="color: purple">nter</span></a></small><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiinterU" title="User talk:WiinterU"><span style="color: turquoise">U</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-WiinterU-20241028125400-Kvng-20241028005000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiinterU-20241028125400-Kvng-20241028005000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiinterU-20241028125400-Kvng-20241028005000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028142000-WiinterU-20241028125400"></span>Why do you think it not necessary to include Samsung somewhere in the infobox? We've had some <a href="/wiki/Talk:Harman_International#On_the_topic_of_articles_about_subsidiaries_of_Harman" title="Talk:Harman International">POV issues</a> with Harman articles and I'm trying to hold things where there seemed to be consensus. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028142000-WiinterU-20241028125400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028142000-WiinterU-20241028125400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028142000-WiinterU-20241028125400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiinterU-20241028221700-Kvng-20241028142000"></span>Samsung is not the direct owner or parent company of JBL. It only has ownership through Harman, not direct. Both fields are meant to show direct ownership. And specifically with the ownership field, it's intended purpose is to show ownership under 51%, multiple owners, or individuals. It is not meant for higher level ownership. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:WiinterU" title="User:WiinterU"><span style="color: blue">Wii</span></a></sup><small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/WiinterU" title="Special:Contributions/WiinterU"><span style="color: purple">nter</span></a></small><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiinterU" title="User talk:WiinterU"><span style="color: turquoise">U</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-WiinterU-20241028221700-Kvng-20241028142000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiinterU-20241028221700-Kvng-20241028142000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiinterU-20241028221700-Kvng-20241028142000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028230800-WiinterU-20241028221700"></span>That doesn't answer my question: Why do you think it not necessary to include Samsung somewhere in the infobox? You have also not addressed the POV concern. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028230800-WiinterU-20241028221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028230800-WiinterU-20241028221700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028230800-WiinterU-20241028221700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WiinterU-20241029203600-Kvng-20241028230800"></span>I have addressed both. I'm saying that it has no place in the infobox and should be used in the lead. <sup><a href="/wiki/User:WiinterU" title="User:WiinterU"><span style="color: blue">Wii</span></a></sup><small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/WiinterU" title="Special:Contributions/WiinterU"><span style="color: purple">nter</span></a></small><sub><a href="/wiki/User_talk:WiinterU" title="User talk:WiinterU"><span style="color: turquoise">U</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-WiinterU-20241029203600-Kvng-20241028230800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WiinterU-20241029203600-Kvng-20241028230800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WiinterU-20241029203600-Kvng-20241028230800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="living=no" data-mw-thread-id="h-living=no-20241028072700"><span id="living.3Dno"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-living=no-20241028072700"></span>living=no<span data-mw-comment-end="h-living=no-20241028072700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kvng&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: living=no"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241028072700-living=no"></span>Please review <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked?hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&target=Category%3APages_using_WikiProject_Biography_with_conflicting_living_parameter&limit=250&days=1&urlversion=2">[1]</a> which are mainly your changes adding <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|living=no</code> to pages which are already set with <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|blp=yes</code>. Would be nice if you can fix these, regards — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-MSGJ-20241028072700-living=no" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241028072700-living=no"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241028072700-living=no"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028140900-MSGJ-20241028072700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a>, this appears to be a tool problem, see <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evad37/rater.js#Stop_killing_people" title="User talk:Evad37/rater.js">User_talk:Evad37/rater.js#Stop_killing_people</a>. I will monitor this and fix the articles you've listed once the dust settles. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028140900-MSGJ-20241028072700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028140900-MSGJ-20241028072700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028140900-MSGJ-20241028072700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241028203800-Kvng-20241028140900"></span>I'm afraid I don't have time to go through every article you have listed, so I am planning to roll back your changes that caused a problem — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-MSGJ-20241028203800-Kvng-20241028140900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241028203800-Kvng-20241028140900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241028203800-Kvng-20241028140900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028230600-MSGJ-20241028203800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a>, I don't think that is productive. I had been moving articles from stub to higher ratings. If we just revert the ratings on the talk page, that will be out of sync with presence or absence of associated <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Stub" title="Template:Stub">stub</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> templates so you're not making things better by doing this and you're arguably making them worse. I'm committed to making this right but I don't see the harm in waiting a bit to see what the proposed tool fix will be. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028230600-MSGJ-20241028203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028230600-MSGJ-20241028203800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028230600-MSGJ-20241028203800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241028232600-MSGJ-20241028203800"></span>Looks like you waited 8 minutes after posting this before reverting my edits. ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241028232600-MSGJ-20241028203800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241028232600-MSGJ-20241028203800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241028232600-MSGJ-20241028203800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241029075100-Kvng-20241028232600"></span>I waited 18 hours after informing you of the problem. After your latest reply, I gathered you were not going to fix these yourself. I understand there is an error with the tool, but unfortunately you are still responsible for the edits that you make using it ... — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-MSGJ-20241029075100-Kvng-20241028232600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241029075100-Kvng-20241028232600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241029075100-Kvng-20241028232600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241029132100-MSGJ-20241029075100"></span>I don't understand how you interpret <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">I will monitor this and fix the articles you've listed once the dust settles</q> as I'm not going to fix the problem. What's the urgency here? Are readers going to get the impression that these people are dead? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Kvng" title="User:Kvng">Kvng</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Kvng-20241029132100-MSGJ-20241029075100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kvng-20241029132100-MSGJ-20241029075100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kvng-20241029132100-MSGJ-20241029075100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241029144300-Kvng-20241029132100"></span>I interpreted it as you are not going to fix them anytime soon. When the dust settles could be days, weeks or months away — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-MSGJ-20241029144300-Kvng-20241029132100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241029144300-Kvng-20241029132100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241029144300-Kvng-20241029132100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241029154200-MSGJ-20241029144300"></span>The <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Evad37/rater.js#It_is_no_longer_possible_to_assign_an_importance_to_a_redirect" title="User talk:Evad37/rater.js">last Rater problem</a> was fixed within a week. 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Need your guidance --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ritijsaini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ritijsaini (page does not exist)">Ritijsaini</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritijsaini" title="User talk:Ritijsaini">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kvng#c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ritijsaini-20241119144200-Question_from_Ritijsaini_(14:42,_19_November_2024)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kvng-20241119144500-Ritijsaini-20241119144200"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ritijsaini&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ritijsaini (page does not exist)">Ritijsaini</a>, welcome! 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