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Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-832495"> <tt class='inlinecode'>map{substr$_->[0],$_->[1]||0,1}[\*||{},3],[[]],[ref qr-1,-,-1],[{}],[sub{}^*ARGV,3]</tt> </div></div><!-- Wiki2Monks {"version":1.161} --></ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163855" name="post-head-id11163855" href="?node_id=11163855" >perlmonks.org still/again slow</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 4 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163855">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=461912">GrandFather</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 27, 2025 at 18:54 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul><p>Over the past few days I see 20 - 40 second page load times for any page I've tried to access through https://perlmonks.org. For a typical page fetch (Perl Monks Discussion in this case) Firefox's Developer Tools reports:</p> <pre class="code"><div class='codeblock'><tt class='codetext'>Request Timing /?node=Perl Monks Discussion Blocked: 8.22 s DNS Resolution: 0 ms Connecting: 203 ms TLS Setup: 8.10 s Sending: 0 ms Waiting: 13.93 s Receiving: 405 ms Request Timing /?node=list replies toggle javascript Blocked: 6.77 s DNS Resolution: 3 ms Connecting: 204 ms TLS Setup: 6.56 s Sending: 0 ms Waiting: 394 ms Receiving: 0 ms Finish: 36.20s (The two fetches above are somewhat overlapped. Other f<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>etches are ignored.) </tt></div><div class='embed-code-dl'><a href="?abspart=1;node_id=11163855;part=1;displaytype=displaycode">[download]</a></div></pre> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-461912"> Optimising for fewest key strokes only makes sense transmitting to Pluto or beyond </div></div></ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163739" name="post-head-id11163739" href="?node_id=11163739" >Modern PerlMonks in Best Nodes</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 3 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163739">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=961">Anonymous Monk</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 19, 2025 at 04:47 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul> <a href="?node_id=9066">Best Nodes</a> lists <a href="?node=Modern%20PerlMonks">Modern PerlMonks</a> with 93 votes as best in categories from week till year. But it's not accessible <a href="?node_id=2294">permission denied</a>, and unlikely to be new.</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163729" name="post-head-id11163729" href="?node_id=11163729" >SOPW is not accepting any new posts</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 1 direct reply — <a href="?node_id=11163729">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=524150">syphilis</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 18, 2025 at 01:04 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>When I go to Seekers of Perl Wisdom (<a href="https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=479">https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=479</a> or <a href="https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=479">https://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=479</a>), and scroll down to the bottom looking for the box into which I can initiate a new thread, I find that said box is no longer present. <br />Brilliant though this is, could someone please fix it. <br /><br />Cheers,<br />Rob </ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163648" name="post-head-id11163648" href="?node_id=11163648" >Bots, missing nodes and outages</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 2 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163648">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=708738">LanX</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 09, 2025 at 15:21 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>Please correct me if I'm wrong. <p> I take it that many outages here are caused by misbehaving bots effectively causing a denial of service attack. Especially those bots ignoring no-follow settings.<p> Now often nodes here are linked not by ID but by name <tt class='inlinecode'>[name]</tt><p> If the exact name is missing as node title, they cause a supersearch for all node titles containing the words (in any order). <p> These searches are very slow and I suppose expensive, since the results aren't cached.<p> Nodelets, which are constantly shown, contain many such links, especially behind <tt class='inlinecode'>?</tt> marks, which until recently were missing real targets.<p> <h5> Now the question: </h5><p> Could it be that such named-links turning into searches contribute to outages in the monastery?<p> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-708738"> <!--nowiki--><p>Cheers Rolf<br /> <sub>(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) <br /> see <i> <a href="?node_id=1153804">Wikisyntax for the Monastery</a></i><p> </sub> <!--nowiki--> </div></div><!-- Wiki2Monks {"version":1.161} --></ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163591" name="post-head-id11163591" href="?node_id=11163591" >Easteregg: Activate links to Nodelet documentation (update: patch)</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 2 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163591">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=708738">LanX</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 06, 2025 at 11:13 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>Hi<p> (Beats me why this feature is <tt class='inlinecode'>display:none</tt> by default...)<p> Put this<p> <tt class='inlinecode'>a.nodelethead-annot { display:inline; float:left; font-size:smaller; padding-left:0.2em}</tt><p> or this<p> <tt class='inlinecode'>a.nodelethead-annot { display:inline; float:right; font-size:smaller }</tt><p> into your <a href="?node_id=450961#On-Site-CSS">On-Site CSS Markup</a> in <a href="?node_id=450961">Display Settings</a><p> and be surprised to see a little <tt class='inlinecode'>?</tt> appearing in the nodelet titles, conveniently linking to the corresponding documentation.<p> DISCLAIMER: I'm no web-designer, if you have better CSS-suggestions, shoot away. :)<p> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-708738"> <!--nowiki--><p>Cheers Rolf<br /> <sub>(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) <br /> see <i> <a href="?node_id=1153804">Wikisyntax for the Monastery</a></i><p> </sub> <!--nowiki--> </div></div><p> <h5> update</h5><p> I found the Common CSS settings and filed a <a href="?node_id=11163595">patch</a> to activate this by globally by default. <!-- Wiki2Monks {"version":1.161} --></ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163563" name="post-head-id11163563" href="?node_id=11163563" >PerlMonks .com .net .org Why so many?</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 2 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163563">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=1166559">harangzsolt33</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 04, 2025 at 23:01 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>I just realized that there 3 different PerlMonks URLS. I am logged in at PerlMonks.com and I was surprised when I clicked on a link that took me to Perlmonks.net/somewhere that I wasn't logged in. So, my question is is there some benefit to having three different sites other than just reserving the name to make sure no one else occupies another one of the main addresses? And why aren't all of the different URLS automatically forward you to PerlMonks.com?</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163529" name="post-head-id11163529" href="?node_id=11163529" >Feature Request: Abandon content to Anonymous Monk</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 3 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163529">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=468064">SankoR</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 02, 2025 at 17:44 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul><p><i>Originally posted as a reply to <a href="?node_id=11163516">New Feature: Claim anonymously posted nodes</a></i></p> Any plans to allow us to do the opposite and abandon content to AM?<p>I've never posted anything too personal or embarrassing but PM is the only site I use where I have absolutely no control or ownership of the content I generate. As long as everything written <a href="?node_id=474389">in this node</a> is true, I'd really love a way to wash my hands of it all. Having my identity attached adds no real value to PM.</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163516" name="post-head-id11163516" href="?node_id=11163516" >New Feature: Claim anonymously posted nodes</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 6 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163516">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=170442">jdporter</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 02, 2025 at 12:08 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul><p> If you are logged in, you may now attempt to claim ownership of a node (root post or comment) currently owned by <a href="?node=Anonymous%20Monk">Anonymous Monk</a>. </p><p> If you are directly viewing the node of interest, there will be a little link above the post saying <strike>"Claim this anonymous post"</strike> "Is this your post?". </p><p> Clicking this link <strike>just sends</strike> takes you to a form where you can send a canned message to the <a href="?node=gods">gods</a>; it does <b>not</b> immediately give you ownership of the node. <!-- <br/><i>Please do not click the link more than once for any given node.</i>--> </p><p> When the gods get your request, they will review it and either grant or decline it. Either way, they will (probably) send you a message to that effect. </p><p> This feature is intended to mitigate the following common scenarios: <ol> <li>You intended to post as your logged-in user but somehow inadvertently were logged out when you posted.</li> <li>You are a new user to the site and you created a user account after posting your first one or more posts, and would now like to own those posts.</li> <li>You intentionally posted anonymously for some reason and now have changed your mind.</li> </ol> </p><p> Feedback welcome! </p> <p><i>Update:</i> Based on feedback, I have moved the link a bit. It's now in the same place as the 'Edit' link which appears on nodes you can edit. <br />Note that putting it into a nodelet would be tricky, and surely more effort than it would be worth, at least at this time. </p> <p><b>Update2:</b> Based on feedback, I have reimplemented the link to take you to <a href="?node=Message%20Outbox">Message Outbox</a>, with the recipient and message pre-loaded appropriately. You can then click "Deliver" to complete the request. </p> </ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163489" name="post-head-id11163489" href="?node_id=11163489" >News or announcements widget</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 5 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163489">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=1166559">harangzsolt33</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Jan 02, 2025 at 00:25 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>Does PerlMonks offer a little widget people can put on their own website that shows latest Perl news or announcements (or most recent questions posted here) and maybe has a small box where people can type in their email to sign up to get the Perl newsletter in one easy step? I've seen this in other websites that are divided into smaller boxes. One small box contains an ad. Another small box contains a table of contents. Another box might hold some links to related sites. Another small box might hold a tiny weather forecast or stock quote and so forth. Does PerlMonks offer any such thing that people can put on their site?</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163313" name="post-head-id11163313" href="?node_id=11163313" >Problems getting e-mails from Perlmonks (UPDATE: FIXED)</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 3 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163313">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=708738">LanX</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Dec 21, 2024 at 11:37 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>I'm not sure if the local emailing is broken, amputated by anti-spam measures by google or if the monastery is simply blocking my IP. <ul> <li> I tried various email addresses (also non-gmail) to create a new account but no avail <br /> --> <a href="?node_id=101">Create A New User</a> <li> I also tried to get password reminder, also no success <br /> --> <a href="?node_id=2513">What's my password?</a> </ul><p> Does it work for anyone else?<p> <h5> update</h5><p> In the meantime I got one new account email via @cpan.org.<p> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-708738"> <!--nowiki--><p>Cheers Rolf<br /> <sub>(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) <br /> see <i> <a href="?node_id=1153804">Wikisyntax for the Monastery</a></i><p> </sub> <!--nowiki--> </div></div><p> <h5> Update</h5><p> Status 2024-12-29: FIXED see <a href="?node_id=11163423">Re^4: Email delivery problems (FIXED: DNS propagation completed)</a><!-- Wiki2Monks {"version":1.161} --></ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163271" name="post-head-id11163271" href="?node_id=11163271" >vote link to the right of messages</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 3 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163271">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=1105934">Danny</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Dec 20, 2024 at 04:41 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>It might be nice to have a <tt class='inlinecode'>[vote]</tt> link to the right of each message where <tt class='inlinecode'>[reply], [/msg]</tt>, etc are; there is plenty of space for it. That way you never have to scroll to the bottom to vote.</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163197" name="post-head-id11163197" href="?node_id=11163197" >Ideas for "fixing" PerlMonks 1.0</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 3 direct replies — <a href="?node_id=11163197">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=1068773">etj</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Dec 16, 2024 at 12:42 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul><p><small><i>Originally posted as a reply to <a href="?node_id=11163187">Re^4: Ideas for PerlMonks 2.0</a></i></small></p> You mention security. Are passwords still stored as plaintext? Is security by obscurity really considered a valuable defence against ze baddies here? <p>As a generality, I think that separating code and data is a good thing, and makes for better design. If the system for this site requires changing to achieve that, then it should be done. I am willing to put effort into that myself. I never got going with the "add markdown as an option", and that is largely due to there not being a dev environment possible.</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> <!-- BEGIN embed node with vote container --> <!-- Begin Post --> <!-- embed node with vote container --> <tr class="post-head post_head"> <td valign="top" style="padding-left:.2em"> <!-- TITLE --> <a id ="post-head-id11163115" name="post-head-id11163115" href="?node_id=11163115" >Email delivery problems</a> <br/> <!-- REPLIES --> 1 direct reply — <a href="?node_id=11163115">Read more / Contribute</a> </td> <td valign="top" align="right" style="padding-right:.2em"> <!-- AUTHOR --> by <a href="?node_id=11163076">dmitrydiskin</a> <br/> <!-- DATE --> on Dec 10, 2024 at 02:33 </td> </tr> <tr class="post-voterep"> <td colspan="2" class="voterep"> </td> </tr> <tr class="post-body post_body"> <td colspan="2"> <ul>Hello all, I was trying to restore access to my old account here, and no emails were received to gmail.com. I created a new account with gmail.com address, and also received no confirmation message. Then I created an account using mail.yandex.ru and received email there but it went to spam with a complaint about SPF records. Here are some headers of that email message: <pre class="code"><div class='codeblock'><tt class='codetext'>Received: from vps918.pairvps.com (vps918.pairvps.com [216.92.237.59]) by mail-nwsmtp-mxfront-production-main-63.sas.yp-c.yandex.net (mxf<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>ront/Yandex) with ESMTPS id 2VgJ7ADH6Sw0-9Wqm3IlP; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 13:31:04 +0300 X-Yandex-Fwd: 1 Authentication-Results: mail-nwsmtp-mxfront-production-main-63.sas.yp-<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>c.yandex.net; spf=softfail (mail-nwsmtp-mxfront-production-main-63.sa<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>s.yp-c.yandex.net: transitioning domain of perlmonks.org does not des<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>ignate 216.92.237.59 as permitted sender, rule=[~all]) smtp.mail=nore<span class="line-breaker"> <font color="red">+</font></span>ply@perlmonks.org X-Yandex-Spam: 4 </tt></div><div class='embed-code-dl'><a href="?part=1;displaytype=displaycode;node_id=11163115;abspart=1">[download]</a></div></pre> Is it a known problem perhaps?</ul> </td> </tr> <!-- End Post --> <!-- END embed node with vote container --> </table> </td> </tr> </table> <!-- END listapproved default outer container --> <table width="100%" class="highlight navbar" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"> <tr><td align="left" width="100"> </td><td align="center">(1-15) of 300</td><td align="right" width="100"> <a href="?next=15;node_id=1040">Older entries</a>> </td></tr></table> <div class='editnodetext'> <!--( monkdiscuss, Discussion Item, Give us your input, , )--> <br /><table width='100%' class='addnewform'> <tr class='titlebar add-root-blurb'> <td><b><a name='post'> Discussion Item </a></b></td></tr> <tr><td> <form method="post" action="?" enctype="multipart/form-data"> <span><input type="hidden" name="node_id" value="1040" ></input></span> <input type="hidden" name="type" value="monkdiscuss" /> <input type="hidden" name="lastnode_id" value="1040" /> <span class='add-title'>Title:</span> <input type="text" name="node" /> <br /><span class='add-text'>Give us your input:</span><br/> Use: <tt><p> text here (a <b>p</b>aragraph) </p></tt> <br />and: <tt><code> code here </code></tt><br /> to format your post, it's "<a href="?node_id=674668">PerlMonks-approved HTML</a>": <br /> <textarea name="monkdiscuss_doctext" rows="10" cols="60"></textarea> <br /> <input type="submit" name="op" value="preview" /> </form> </td></tr></table> </div> <hr /> <li> Posts are HTML formatted. <b>Put <tt class='inlinecode'><p> </p></tt> tags around your paragraphs. 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