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class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/80px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="text-align:center">This is an <b><a href="/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">archive</a></b> of past discussions about <a href="/wiki/Pat_Oliphant" title="Pat Oliphant">Pat Oliphant</a>. <b>Do not edit the contents of this page.</b> If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant" title="Talk:Pat Oliphant">current talk page</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <table style="text-align:center;margin:0 auto 0.5em;max-width:10em;width:100%;width:-moz-available;width:-webkit-fill-available;width:stretch"><tbody><tr><td><span style="font-size:115%;"><a class="mw-selflink selflink">Archive 1</a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Biography_assessment_rating_comment" data-mw-thread-id="h-Biography_assessment_rating_comment-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Biography_assessment_rating_comment-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment">Biography assessment rating</a> comment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Biography_assessment_rating_comment-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z-Biography_assessment_rating_comment"></span>The article may be improved by following the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography#WikiProject_Biography_11_easy_steps_to_producing_at_least_a_B_article" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography">WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps</a> to producing at least a B article. --<small><a href="/wiki/User:KenWalker" title="User:KenWalker">KenWalker</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:KenWalker" title="User talk:KenWalker">Talk</a></small> 04:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC) "In short, Oliphant's pandering to leftist views is what's wrong with America today." Is this appropriate to this article? It hardly seems unbiased or neutral. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rheubie&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rheubie (page does not exist)">Rheubie</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z-Biography_assessment_rating_comment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z-Biography_assessment_rating_comment"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z-Biography_assessment_rating_comment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mksmith-2008-09-11T20:05:00.000Z-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"></span>. . . especially when he seems to have jumped the fence in the 2008 campaign, attacking Hillary Clinton at every opportunity, depicting Bill Clinton as a bibb-overalled hillbilly (about as far from the truth as it's possible to get), and submitting anti-Obama cartoons far more often than anti-McCain. --<a href="/wiki/User:Mksmith" title="User:Mksmith">Michael K. Smith</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mksmith" title="User talk:Mksmith">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Mksmith-2008-09-11T20:05:00.000Z-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mksmith-2008-09-11T20:05:00.000Z-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mksmith-2008-09-11T20:05:00.000Z-KenWalker-2007-07-17T04:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Broken_link" data-mw-thread-id="h-Broken_link-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Broken_link-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"></span>Broken link<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Broken_link-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z-Broken_link"></span>Source [1] is a broken link. Somebody fix it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.67.106.244" title="Special:Contributions/71.67.106.244">71.67.106.244</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:71.67.106.244&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:71.67.106.244 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z-Broken_link" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)</a></span> '<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z-Broken_link"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z-Broken_link"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-205.153.50.41-2015-05-07T02:04:00.000Z-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"></span>fixed <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/205.153.50.41" title="Special:Contributions/205.153.50.41">205.153.50.41</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:205.153.50.41" title="User talk:205.153.50.41">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-205.153.50.41-2015-05-07T02:04:00.000Z-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-205.153.50.41-2015-05-07T02:04:00.000Z-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-205.153.50.41-2015-05-07T02:04:00.000Z-71.67.106.244-2010-01-14T21:26:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?" data-mw-thread-id="h-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z"><span id="They_Won.27t_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z"></span>They Won't Get Us To The Conference Table . . . Will They?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drutt-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?"></span>What is the context of this cartoon? What was thought significant about it at the time? <a href="/wiki/User:Drutt" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Drutt">Drutt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drutt" title="User talk:Drutt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Drutt-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drutt-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drutt-2008-06-04T04:57:00.000Z-They_Won't_Get_Us_To_The_Conference_Table_._._._Will_They?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Birth_year?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Birth_year?-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"><span id="Birth_year.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Birth_year?-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"></span>Birth year?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Birth_year?-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z-Birth_year?"></span>Article lists 1934, category (and some other sources) say 1935. Anybody know what's considered most official? <a href="/wiki/User:Wencer" title="User:Wencer">Wencer</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wencer" title="User talk:Wencer">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z-Birth_year?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z-Birth_year?"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z-Birth_year?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-17T10:21:00.000Z-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"></span>24 July 1935 is confirmed - see <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation news cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article74132491">"Family Notices"</a>. <i><a href="/wiki/The_Advertiser_(Adelaide)" title="The Advertiser (Adelaide)">The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1931 - 1954)</a></i>. Adelaide, SA: National Library of Australia. 26 July 1935. p. 20<span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">17 July</span> 2012</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.jtitle=The+Advertiser+%28Adelaide%2C+SA+%3A+1931+-+1954%29&rft.atitle=Family+Notices.&rft.pages=20&rft.date=1935-07-26&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fnla.gov.au%2Fnla.news-article74132491&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3APat+Oliphant%2FArchive+1" class="Z3988"></span> <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_butler" title="User:Doug butler">Doug butler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_butler" title="User talk:Doug butler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Doug_butler-2012-07-17T10:21:00.000Z-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-17T10:21:00.000Z-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-17T10:21:00.000Z-Wencer-2009-07-02T01:05:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Punk_Citation_Needed" data-mw-thread-id="h-Punk_Citation_Needed-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Punk_Citation_Needed-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z"></span>Punk Citation Needed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Punk_Citation_Needed-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z-Punk_Citation_Needed"></span>There's a <sup class="noprint Inline-Template Template-Fact" style="white-space:nowrap;">[<i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources.">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> tag alongside the statement about Oliphant's trademark penguin. What needs to be supported? Surely not the fact that the character occasionally makes a comment on the subject, which can be verified by simple inspection. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_butler" title="User:Doug butler">Doug butler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_butler" title="User talk:Doug butler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Doug_butler-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z-Punk_Citation_Needed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z-Punk_Citation_Needed"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_butler-2012-07-15T22:16:00.000Z-Punk_Citation_Needed"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_News_and_The_Advertiser" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_News_and_The_Advertiser-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_News_and_The_Advertiser-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z"></span><i>The News</i> and <i>The Advertiser</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_News_and_The_Advertiser-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_butler-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z-The_News_and_The_Advertiser"></span>I placed a "citation needed" tag on the line that asserts Oliphant was a copy boy for the <i>Adelaide News</i>. The CNN citation says he was a copy boy then staff artist, but does not mention <i>The News</i> (its proper title), which is what I suspect may be in error. <i>The Advertiser</i> is now owned by News Limited (or rather <a href="/wiki/News_Corp_Australia" title="News Corp Australia">News Corp Australia</a>), and <i>The News</i> is long gone, but in those days it was the morning broadsheet in bitter competition with the afternoon tabloid <i>News</i>. Although not impossible that he may have "jumped ship" for the opposition, I feel it more likely that he started with <i>The Advertiser</i> and developed his skills within the collegiate atmosphere of that organization. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_butler" title="User:Doug butler">Doug butler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_butler" title="User talk:Doug butler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Doug_butler-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z-The_News_and_The_Advertiser" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_butler-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z-The_News_and_The_Advertiser"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_butler-2014-09-02T00:10:00.000Z-The_News_and_The_Advertiser"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feud" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feud-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feud-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z"></span>Feud<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feud-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DragonflySixtyseven-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z-Feud"></span>Is it worth mentioning Oliphant's <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1987-11-07/news/0160060018_1_pat-oliphant-editorial-cartoonists-bloom-county">feud</a> with <a href="/wiki/Berke_Breathed" class="mw-redirect" title="Berke Breathed">Berke Breathed</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:DragonflySixtyseven" title="User:DragonflySixtyseven">DS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DragonflySixtyseven" title="User talk:DragonflySixtyseven">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-DragonflySixtyseven-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z-Feud" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DragonflySixtyseven-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z-Feud"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DragonflySixtyseven-2015-07-26T22:25:00.000Z-Feud"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Punk" data-mw-thread-id="h-Punk-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Punk-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z"></span>Punk<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Punk-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_butler-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z-Punk"></span>I can't dispute the assertion that "Punk" was modeled on the Adélie penguin, but the little fellow that stared it all was almost certainly what we call a fairy penguin (<a href="/wiki/Eudyptula_minor" class="mw-redirect" title="Eudyptula minor">Eudyptula minor</a>), once common on the south coast of South Australia but now rare thanks to rats, foxes and young boys. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_butler" title="User:Doug butler">Doug butler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_butler" title="User talk:Doug butler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1#c-Doug_butler-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z-Punk" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 30 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_butler-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z-Punk"></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_butler-2020-03-30T22:00:00.000Z-Punk"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1&oldid=1259196747">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pat_Oliphant/Archive_1&oldid=1259196747</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 23 November 2024, at 22:12<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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