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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-2.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-2.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Top-chef-season-2.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-2.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-3.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-3.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Top-chef-season-3.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul 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id="toc-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>Nomination of Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-We_happy_few" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#We_happy_few"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>We happy few</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-We_happy_few-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_reversion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_reversion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>About the reversion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_reversion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_5_June_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_5_June_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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id="toc-The_Signpost:_19_June_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Klete_Keller" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Klete_Keller"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>Klete Keller</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Klete_Keller-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Activision_Blizzard" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Activision_Blizzard"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>Activision Blizzard</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Activision_Blizzard-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Category:Exploration video games has been nominated for renaming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>I'd have preferred you followed BRD</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_3_July_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 3 July 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>Hyper Light Drifter GA Nomination</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_17_July_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_17_July_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 17 July 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_17_July_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_revert" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_revert"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>Your revert</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_revert-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Ghost Trick Phantom Detective screenshot.jpg</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>They are rebranding their logo as X</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FAC_Mentor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FAC_Mentor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>FAC Mentor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-FAC_Mentor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-pathfinder_source" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#pathfinder_source"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span>pathfinder source</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-pathfinder_source-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>Your draft article, Draft:Squid Game: The Challenge</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>CS1 error on 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Video_game" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Video_game"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Video game</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Video_game-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-E3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#E3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>E3</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-E3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_1_August_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 1 August 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bad_logic" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bad_logic"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Bad logic</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Bad_logic-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Regarding your revert on WP:Notability</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Video games in the United States- Metaverse</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>Ninth generation of video game consoles Cloud Gaming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for August 13</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_15_August_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 15 August 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Guitar Hero and Rock Band – list vs. table</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>Did we ever get a consensus on a limit on the number of words that can be copied?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-remove_an_addition" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#remove_an_addition"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>remove an addition</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-remove_an_addition-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_31_August_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 31 August 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Supergiant_games_logo.png" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Supergiant_games_logo.png"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>Orphaned non-free image File:Supergiant games logo.png</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Supergiant_games_logo.png-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Award" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Award"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">53</span> <span>Award</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Award-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_16_September_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_16_September_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">54</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 16 September 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_16_September_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Cities_Skylines_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Cities_Skylines_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">55</span> <span>Cities Skylines 2</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Cities_Skylines_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">56</span> <span>ITN recognition for OSIRIS-REx</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-CS1_error_on_Loot_box" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#CS1_error_on_Loot_box"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">57</span> <span>CS1 error on Loot box</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-CS1_error_on_Loot_box-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)""> <div 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id="toc-RfC_for_ITN_entries" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#RfC_for_ITN_entries"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">60</span> <span>RfC for ITN entries</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-RfC_for_ITN_entries-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_3" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_3"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">61</span> <span>Disambiguation link notification for October 3</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_3-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_3_October_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_3_October_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">62</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 3 October 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_3_October_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Image_review" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Image_review"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">63</span> <span>Image review</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Image_review-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">64</span> <span>Edits to Baroness Joanna Shields page</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">65</span> <span>ITN recognition for Jon Fosse</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">66</span> <span>Regarding levels of notability for the films page.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">67</span> <span>Andrew Davidson/Bobby Charlton</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_23_October_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">68</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 23 October 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">69</span> <span>Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Certiorari_vs._certified_question" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Certiorari_vs._certified_question"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">70</span> <span>Certiorari vs. certified question</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Certiorari_vs._certified_question-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Former_logo_image_gallery" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Former_logo_image_gallery"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">71</span> <span>Former logo image gallery</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Former_logo_image_gallery-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_the_films_talk_page_I_am_making_sure_the_word_is_known_and_spread.)" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_the_films_talk_page_I_am_making_sure_the_word_is_known_and_spread.)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">72</span> <span>Regarding sources for the film (this is not a spam attempt if this was seen on the films talk page I am making sure the word is known and spread.)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_the_films_talk_page_I_am_making_sure_the_word_is_known_and_spread.)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Final_statement_for_now." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Final_statement_for_now."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">73</span> <span>Final statement for now.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Final_statement_for_now.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">74</span> <span>ITN recognition for Richard Roundtree</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Vimeo_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Vimeo_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">75</span> <span>Vimeo request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Vimeo_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">76</span> <span>Robinson Ekspeditionen 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_6_November_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">77</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 6 November 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-You've_got_mail!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#You've_got_mail!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">78</span> <span>You've got mail!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-You've_got_mail!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello_there,_Masem" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello_there,_Masem"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">79</span> <span>Hello there, Masem</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hello_there,_Masem-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">80</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Page_number_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Page_number_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">81</span> <span>Page number request</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Page_number_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_20_November_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">82</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 20 November 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-FAC_mentor_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#FAC_mentor_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">83</span> <span>FAC mentor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">8 comments</span> <ul id="toc-FAC_mentor_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-PUBG_Global_Championship" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#PUBG_Global_Championship"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">84</span> <span>PUBG Global Championship</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-PUBG_Global_Championship-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">85</span> <span>ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_4_December_2023" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_4_December_2023"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">86</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 4 December 2023</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_4_December_2023-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Console_war" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Console_war"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">87</span> <span>Console war</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Console_war-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">88</span> <span>ITN recognition for Norman Lear</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">89</span> <span>A barnstar for you!</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-2023_in_video_games_edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#2023_in_video_games_edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">90</span> <span>2023 in video games edit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-2023_in_video_games_edit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Forbes_Contributor" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Forbes_Contributor"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">91</span> <span>Forbes Contributor</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Forbes_Contributor-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">92</span> <span>Rock Band 3 Rewind DLC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Brain_Age_primary_source" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Brain_Age_primary_source"> <div 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href="#Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">112</span> <span>Sweet Baby Inc-article is full of pseudo-facts, Wiki-mods use one-sided sourcing</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Introduction_to_contentious_topics" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Introduction_to_contentious_topics"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">113</span> <span>Introduction to contentious topics</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li 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class="vector-toc-link" href="#Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">163</span> <span>Danny Cohen (television executive)</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">164</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 14 August 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Always_precious" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Always_precious"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">165</span> <span>Always precious</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Always_precious-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Mentorship" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Mentorship"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">166</span> <span>Mentorship</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Mentorship-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">167</span> <span>An editor ignoring the guidelines</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul 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id="toc-Fortnite_Reload" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Fortnite_Reload"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">170</span> <span>Fortnite Reload</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Fortnite_Reload-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">171</span> <span>ITN recognition for James Earl Jones</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disco_Elysium" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disco_Elysium"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">172</span> <span>Disco Elysium</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Disco_Elysium-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">173</span> <span>Category:Game jam video games has been nominated for deletion</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Regarding_Mario" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Regarding_Mario"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">174</span> <span>Regarding Mario</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Regarding_Mario-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">175</span> <span>Assassin's Creed Shadows has an RfC</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Arbitration_case_opened" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Arbitration_case_opened"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">176</span> <span>Arbitration case opened</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <button aria-controls="toc-Arbitration_case_opened-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> <span class="vector-icon mw-ui-icon-wikimedia-expand"></span> <span>Toggle Arbitration case opened subsection</span> </button> <ul id="toc-Arbitration_case_opened-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Proposed_decision_posted" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Proposed_decision_posted"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">176.1</span> <span>Proposed decision posted</span> </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Proposed_decision_posted-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span 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id="toc-New_message_from_Sjones23_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-The_Signpost:_19_October_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#The_Signpost:_19_October_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">180</span> <span><i>The Signpost</i>: 19 October 2024</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-The_Signpost:_19_October_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">181</span> <span>CAN YOU STOP REVERTING MY EDITS.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li 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monster hunter rise"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>You undid my edits today but I did not make those to fuel some console war over if the game is mainline or portable or spinoff but to simplify the situation by removing all mention of those things. I posted more about my reasoning on the talk page for monster hunter rise, <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Monster_Hunter_Rise">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Monster_Hunter_Rise</a> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dune" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dune-20240302161600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dune-20240302161600"></span>Dune<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dune-20240302161600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Dune"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Continental46-20240302161600-Dune"></span>I'm getting very, very tired of having every edit I contribute to this site reverted by someone who thinks it contains "unnecessary" detail. If you people are going to treat me with such disrespect, never again ask me to contribute money to this site. I will NOT help pay for a site whose senior members repeatedly disrespect me. Finance your site yourselves. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Continental46&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Continental46 (page does not exist)">Continental46</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Continental46#top" title="User talk:Continental46">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Continental46" title="Special:Contributions/Continental46">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Continental46-20240302161600-Dune" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Continental46-20240302161600-Dune"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Continental46-20240302161600-Dune"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Muiy-20240322103500-Continental46-20240302161600"></span>I'm stumbling upon this comment because I've made one Wikipedia entry in my life, it was very well sourced and relevant, and the same editor you're complaining about undid it based on silly reasoning. It happened years ago and it still irritates me. I haven't contributed or donated since. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Muiy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Muiy (page does not exist)">Muiy</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Muiy&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Muiy (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Muiy-20240322103500-Continental46-20240302161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Muiy-20240322103500-Continental46-20240302161600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Muiy-20240322103500-Continental46-20240302161600"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wall_E" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wall_E-20230414141900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wall_E-20230414141900"></span>Wall E<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wall_E-20230414141900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Wall E"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheManTheyCallAdam-20230414141900-Wall_E"></span>Why exactly is it too much detail. The reason Auto closes the holo dectetor is alse a false statment. <a href="/wiki/User:TheManTheyCallAdam" title="User:TheManTheyCallAdam">TheManTheyCallAdam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheManTheyCallAdam" title="User talk:TheManTheyCallAdam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-TheManTheyCallAdam-20230414141900-Wall_E" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheManTheyCallAdam-20230414141900-Wall_E"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheManTheyCallAdam-20230414141900-Wall_E"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CyberConnect2" data-mw-thread-id="h-CyberConnect2-20230417192900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CyberConnect2-20230417192900"></span>CyberConnect2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CyberConnect2-20230417192900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: CyberConnect2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Prince_Silversaddle-20230417192900-CyberConnect2"></span>I know CC2 is still operating. The Gematsu news article/source clearly stated that its Montreal-based studio/branch of CC2 is shutting its doors by the end of July 2023. -<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Prince_Silversaddle&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Prince Silversaddle (page does not exist)">Prince Silversaddle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Prince_Silversaddle" title="User talk:Prince Silversaddle">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Prince_Silversaddle-20230417192900-CyberConnect2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:29, 17 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Prince_Silversaddle-20230417192900-CyberConnect2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Prince_Silversaddle-20230417192900-CyberConnect2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="How_to_proceed" data-mw-thread-id="h-How_to_proceed-20230424114900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-How_to_proceed-20230424114900"></span>How to proceed<span data-mw-comment-end="h-How_to_proceed-20230424114900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: How to proceed"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Throast-20230424114900-How_to_proceed"></span>Hi, I'm asking for your advice regarding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#WP:OR_at_List_of_Shrek_(franchise)_characters" title="Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard">this discussion</a> you've been involved with. It has been two days with no further comments, and from the little experience I have with NORN, I don't expect any more editors to comment. One of the two editors involved in the dispute has apparently backed off, and the other is clearly <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThroast&diff=1151262796&oldid=1151262533">acting in bad faith</a>. Should I just remove the material again and reference the NORN discussion? <a href="/wiki/User:Throast" title="User:Throast">Throast</a> <sup style="font-size:.7em; line-height:1.5em;">{{ping}} me!</sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Throast" title="User talk:Throast">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Throast" title="Special:Contributions/Throast">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Throast-20230424114900-How_to_proceed" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Throast-20230424114900-How_to_proceed"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Throast-20230424114900-How_to_proceed"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230424123700-Throast-20230424114900"></span>I would do that, the discussion clearly has weight in your favor. Make sure to add a talk page section (if not already) to discuss why you did it and see if they use that. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230424123700-Throast-20230424114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:37, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230424123700-Throast-20230424114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230424123700-Throast-20230424114900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Throast-20230424130600-Masem-20230424123700"></span>Will do. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Throast" title="User:Throast">Throast</a> <sup style="font-size:.7em; line-height:1.5em;">{{ping}} me!</sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Throast" title="User talk:Throast">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Throast" title="Special:Contributions/Throast">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Throast-20230424130600-Masem-20230424123700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 24 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Throast-20230424130600-Masem-20230424123700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Throast-20230424130600-Masem-20230424123700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I’ve_won" data-mw-thread-id="h-I’ve_won-20230425071000"><span id="I.E2.80.99ve_won"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I’ve_won-20230425071000"></span>I’ve won<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I’ve_won-20230425071000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: I’ve won"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000-I’ve_won"></span>It was inevitable <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:UltimateGamer9000&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:UltimateGamer9000 (page does not exist)">UltimateGamer9000</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UltimateGamer9000" title="User talk:UltimateGamer9000">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000-I’ve_won" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000-I’ve_won"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000-I’ve_won"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20230426001600-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000"></span>@Masem: Just letting you know about <a href="/wiki/Talk:Second_generation_of_video_game_consoles#The_1992_debacle" title="Talk:Second generation of video game consoles">Talk:Second generation of video game consoles#The 1992 debacle</a> as a courtesy since it seems to be what this is about. It might not matter now since the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WIN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WIN">OP's victory lap</a> turned out to be <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/UltimateGamer9000" title="Special:Contributions/UltimateGamer9000">a bit premature</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Marchjuly-20230426001600-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20230426001600-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20230426001600-UltimateGamer9000-20230425071000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ferret-20230426003800-Marchjuly-20230426001600"></span>This guy has been making this same edit for 3 years. His IPs are an easy to follow history, but even though its public, I'm not gonna connect the dots right now as it's not necessary. The last residential IP is still under a pblock from the article. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ferret" title="User:Ferret">ferret</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ferret" title="User talk:Ferret">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ferret-20230426003800-Marchjuly-20230426001600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ferret-20230426003800-Marchjuly-20230426001600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ferret-20230426003800-Marchjuly-20230426001600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png-20230425172200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png-20230425172200"></span>Orphaned non-free image File:Spacechem logo.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png-20230425172200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Orphaned non-free image File:Spacechem logo.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-B-bot-20230425172200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Spacechem_logo.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Spacechem logo.png (page does not exist)">File:Spacechem logo.png</a></b>. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">claim of fair use</a>. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">our policy for non-free media</a>). </p><p>Note that any non-free images not used in any <b>articles</b> will be deleted after seven days, as described in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#F5" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>. Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-B-bot-20230425172200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 25 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-B-bot-20230425172200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-B-bot-20230425172200-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Spacechem_logo.png"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_26_April_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_26_April_2023-20230426131700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_26_April_2023-20230426131700"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 26 April 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_26_April_2023-20230426131700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 26 April 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230426131700-The_Signpost:_26_April_2023"></span>News and notes: <a 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Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-B-bot-20230510025000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 10 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-B-bot-20230510025000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-B-bot-20230510025000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serenewilliams-20230511164500-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg"></span>Hello Masem, I noticed on the Bostock v. Clayton County Wikipedia page you do not recommend Gerald Bostock has his own page. I think he meets the notability standard as I have found a great deal of research on his story. Could you let me know why you reverted my edit? Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Serenewilliams" title="User:Serenewilliams">Serenewilliams</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serenewilliams" title="User talk:Serenewilliams">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Serenewilliams-20230511164500-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 11 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serenewilliams-20230511164500-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serenewilliams-20230511164500-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Top-chef-season-4.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR" data-mw-thread-id="h-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR-20230513121400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR-20230513121400"></span>STOP REVERTING THE RHYTHM HEAVEN ARTICLR<span data-mw-comment-end="h-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR-20230513121400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: STOP REVERTING THE RHYTHM HEAVEN ARTICLR"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT-20230513121400-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR"></span>IT WAS NOT A GAME GUIDE SO STOP <a href="/wiki/User:GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT" title="User:GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT">GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT" title="User talk:GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT-20230513121400-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:14, 13 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT-20230513121400-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GrEgOrYiSnTaRoBoT-20230513121400-STOP_REVERTING_THE_RHYTHM_HEAVEN_ARTICLR"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_22_May_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_22_May_2023-20230522083900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_22_May_2023-20230522083900"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 22 May 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_22_May_2023-20230522083900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 22 May 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230522083900-The_Signpost:_22_May_2023"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-05-22/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-05-22/News and notes">Golden parachutes: Record severance payments at Wikimedia Foundation</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-05-22/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-05-22/In the media">History, propaganda and censorship</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Arbitration report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-05-22/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-05-22/Arbitration report">Final decision in "World War II and the history of Jews in Poland"</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-05-22/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-05-22/Recent research">Create or curate, cooperate or compete? 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I can't keep trying to genuinely improve the article and add sources when it's getting reverted by you for doubting sources. </p><p>Now it's back to the old version which is messier and doesn't even have one source. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sintlepond&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sintlepond (page does not exist)">Sintlepond</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sintlepond" title="User talk:Sintlepond">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sintlepond-20230524131600-Video_game_console_emulator" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 24 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sintlepond-20230524131600-Video_game_console_emulator"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sintlepond-20230524131600-Video_game_console_emulator"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230524133300-Sintlepond-20230524131600"></span>Two source issues: that Techwiki is not a reliable source, and we should not use primary sources (like Nintendo's policy) to support these facts. The other factor is that we avoid having sources in the ledes, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LEDECITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LEDECITE">WP:LEDECITE</a>). I also think your wording is more clunky and adds too many details in the lede (eg we don't need to explain one-click cheat codes at that point). Some of the other sources are better later in the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230524133300-Sintlepond-20230524131600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 24 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230524133300-Sintlepond-20230524131600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230524133300-Sintlepond-20230524131600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sintlepond-20230524133800-Masem-20230524133300"></span>OK, I'll try make another revision changing the Techwiki and Nintendo sources. Also I think you're mistaken about the too many details: I actually saw that problem and <i>decreased</i> it, e.g. I removed ' greater performance, clearer quality, click cheat codes' from the first paragraph. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sintlepond&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sintlepond (page does not exist)">Sintlepond</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sintlepond" title="User talk:Sintlepond">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sintlepond-20230524133800-Masem-20230524133300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:38, 24 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sintlepond-20230524133800-Masem-20230524133300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sintlepond-20230524133800-Masem-20230524133300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sintlepond-20230524140300-Masem-20230524133300"></span>I've removed the Nintendo source with a reliable third-party one so hope that's sorted. I have checked the others and they're not primary. I've removed the Techwiki source and put a 'citation needed' for now - keep in mind that sentence about ROM/ISO files was already there before I started editing. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Sintlepond&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Sintlepond (page does not exist)">Sintlepond</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sintlepond" title="User talk:Sintlepond">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sintlepond-20230524140300-Masem-20230524133300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sintlepond-20230524140300-Masem-20230524133300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sintlepond-20230524140300-Masem-20230524133300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023-20230529192100"><span id="Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act.2C_2023"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023-20230529192100"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023" title="Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2023">Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2023</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023-20230529192100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Nomination of Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Docentation-20230529192100-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023"></span>I have no opinion on whether this should be on the frontpage, but your rationale appears to be faulty. Presidential assent is when the bill became law; you must have conflated the content of the draft bill in March with what was on the statute book in March in coming to the conclusion that assent largely ‘maintain[s] the status quo’. ‘[A]dopted in March’ means <i>approved by parliament in March</i>, but the text approved did not enter law because Museveni returned it for reconsideration: see Article 91 of the Constitution of Uganda. Only now is the death penalty on the statute book. </p><p>Since I don’t care about the front page, I only ask that you should be more careful. But if you care about the frontpage, you may, if possible, wish to reopen the discussion, which appears to have been closed only on the basis of that faulty rationale. <a href="/wiki/User:Docentation" title="User:Docentation">Docentation</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Docentation" title="User talk:Docentation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Docentation-20230529192100-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 29 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Docentation-20230529192100-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Docentation-20230529192100-Nomination_of_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2023"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_happy_few" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_happy_few-20230530153000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_happy_few-20230530153000"></span>We happy few<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_happy_few-20230530153000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: We happy few"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-46.70.111.21-20230530153000-We_happy_few"></span>we happy few is a survival horror game and is shown in the articles <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/46.70.111.21" title="Special:Contributions/46.70.111.21">46.70.111.21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:46.70.111.21" title="User talk:46.70.111.21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-46.70.111.21-20230530153000-We_happy_few" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:30, 30 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-46.70.111.21-20230530153000-We_happy_few"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-46.70.111.21-20230530153000-We_happy_few"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_reversion" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_reversion-20230602172500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_reversion-20230602172500"></span>About the reversion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_reversion-20230602172500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: About the reversion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slovebz-20230602172500-About_the_reversion"></span>You said "in judgment" is standard, but the court uses "in the judgment". So I'm a little confused. Can you explain? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Slovebz&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Slovebz (page does not exist)">Slovebz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Slovebz" title="User talk:Slovebz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Slovebz-20230602172500-About_the_reversion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slovebz-20230602172500-About_the_reversion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slovebz-20230602172500-About_the_reversion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230602211900-Slovebz-20230602172500"></span>I know the slip opinions say "in the judgement" but "in judgement" is clear when used as a partial phrase in the infobox. It doesn't change anything about the writing. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230602211900-Slovebz-20230602172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 2 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230602211900-Slovebz-20230602172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230602211900-Slovebz-20230602172500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20230604022200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20230604022200"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion-20230604022200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheNewLayoutReallySucks-20230604022200-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peacedove.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/60px-Peacedove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/90px-Peacedove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/120px-Peacedove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="714" data-file-height="729"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. 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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230619100900-The_Signpost:_19_June_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:09, 19 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230619100900-The_Signpost:_19_June_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230619100900-The_Signpost:_19_June_2023"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Klete_Keller" data-mw-thread-id="h-Klete_Keller-20230621201700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Klete_Keller-20230621201700"></span>Klete Keller<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Klete_Keller-20230621201700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Klete Keller"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-129.222.222.20-20230621201700-Klete_Keller"></span>Hi, the lead on Klete Keller was vandalized yet again :( not sure if anything can be done. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/129.222.222.20" title="Special:Contributions/129.222.222.20">129.222.222.20</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:129.222.222.20" title="User talk:129.222.222.20">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-129.222.222.20-20230621201700-Klete_Keller" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-129.222.222.20-20230621201700-Klete_Keller"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-129.222.222.20-20230621201700-Klete_Keller"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wes_sideman-20231129141600-129.222.222.20-20230621201700"></span>Well, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Defeedme">not by this block evader,</a> certainly. <a href="/wiki/User:Wes_sideman" title="User:Wes sideman">Wes sideman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wes_sideman" title="User talk:Wes sideman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Wes_sideman-20231129141600-129.222.222.20-20230621201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wes_sideman-20231129141600-129.222.222.20-20230621201700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wes_sideman-20231129141600-129.222.222.20-20230621201700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Activision_Blizzard" data-mw-thread-id="h-Activision_Blizzard-20230622220200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Activision_Blizzard-20230622220200"></span>Activision Blizzard<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Activision_Blizzard-20230622220200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Activision Blizzard"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200-Activision_Blizzard"></span>Hi Masem, just checking in. Do you have any thoughts regarding the proposed trim to the <a href="/wiki/Activision_Blizzard#Workplace_misconduct_lawsuit_and_proposed_acquisition_by_Microsoft(2021–present)" title="Activision Blizzard">Workplace misconduct lawsuit subsection</a>? As we discussed initially, all of the information is included in the <a href="/wiki/California_Department_of_Fair_Employment_and_Housing_v._Activision_Blizzard" title="California Department of Fair Employment and Housing v. Activision Blizzard">breakaway article</a>, so this is just a matter of keeping the main points on the page for reference, and leaving the details to the separate article. I look forward to your input. <a href="/wiki/User:Sh-abkcomms" title="User:Sh-abkcomms">Sh-abkcomms</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sh-abkcomms" title="User talk:Sh-abkcomms">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200-Activision_Blizzard" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 22 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200-Activision_Blizzard"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200-Activision_Blizzard"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230624173500-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Sh-abkcomms" title="User:Sh-abkcomms">Sh-abkcomms</a>:</span> can you provide a version of your draft with the struck text removed? (but keeping the references within the struct text?), or if you want to edit that directly, I would support that as a fair cutback from the COI issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230624173500-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230624173500-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230624173500-Sh-abkcomms-20230622220200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230626143300-Masem-20230624173500"></span>I've added a clean version of the text to <a href="/wiki/User:Sh-abkcomms/Misconduct_trim" title="User:Sh-abkcomms/Misconduct trim">the draft</a> as you requested. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:Sh-abkcomms" title="User:Sh-abkcomms">Sh-abkcomms</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sh-abkcomms" title="User talk:Sh-abkcomms">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sh-abkcomms-20230626143300-Masem-20230624173500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230626143300-Masem-20230624173500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sh-abkcomms-20230626143300-Masem-20230624173500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-20230624210500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-20230624210500"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Exploration_video_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Exploration video games (page does not exist)">Category:Exploration video games</a> has been nominated for renaming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-20230624210500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Category:Exploration video games has been nominated for renaming"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zxcvbnm-20230624210500-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Exploration_video_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Exploration video games (page does not exist)">Category:Exploration video games</a> has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_24#Category:Exploration_video_games" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 24">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Zxcvbnm" title="User:Zxcvbnm">ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zxcvbnm" title="User talk:Zxcvbnm">ᴛ</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Zxcvbnm-20230624210500-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zxcvbnm-20230624210500-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zxcvbnm-20230624210500-Category:Exploration_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD-20230703025000"><span id="I.27d_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD-20230703025000"></span>I'd have preferred you followed BRD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD-20230703025000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: I'd have preferred you followed BRD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Soibangla" title="User:Soibangla"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Soibangla-20230703025000-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD"></span>soibangla</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Soibangla" title="User talk:Soibangla">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Soibangla-20230703025000-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Soibangla-20230703025000-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Soibangla-20230703025000-I'd_have_preferred_you_followed_BRD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230703025600-Soibangla-20230703025000"></span>Right, those that want to restore boldly added material the was removed should be discussing it. The reason I reverted is that there was no need to break out the information already present in the article to its own section <i>and</i> add original research. I am watching for legal sources to describe to what degree the fake client material was used/not used in the decision as to properly cite that but we can't reach that conclusion ourselves. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230703025600-Soibangla-20230703025000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:56, 3 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230703025600-Soibangla-20230703025000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230703025600-Soibangla-20230703025000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_3_July_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023-20230703081400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023-20230703081400"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 3 July 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023-20230703081400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 3 July 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230703081400-The_Signpost:_3_July_2023"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-07-03/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-03/News and notes">Online Safety Bill: Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK launch open letter</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Disinformation report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-07-03/Disinformation_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-03/Disinformation report">Imploded submersible outfit foiled trying to sing own praises on Wikipedia</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-07-03/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-03/In the media">Journo proposes mass Wiki dox, sponsored articles on Fandom, Section 230 discussed</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Featured content: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-07-03/Featured_content" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-03/Featured content">Incensed</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-07-03/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-07-03/Traffic report">Are you afraid of spiders? 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Is there anything you'd recommend improving before I submit? --<a href="/wiki/User:FlyingKangeroo" title="User:FlyingKangeroo">FlyingKangeroo</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FlyingKangeroo" title="User talk:FlyingKangeroo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-FlyingKangeroo-20230706224700-Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FlyingKangeroo-20230706224700-Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FlyingKangeroo-20230706224700-Hyper_Light_Drifter_GA_Nomination"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 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<div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_revert-20230717140200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_revert-20230717140200"></span>Your revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_revert-20230717140200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Your revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Willbb234-20230717140200-Your_revert"></span>Don't revert it if it's wrong. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Willbb234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Willbb234 (page does not exist)">Willbb234</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Willbb234-20230717140200-Your_revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Willbb234-20230717140200-Your_revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Willbb234-20230717140200-Your_revert"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg-20230721021000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" 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title="⚠"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure><p> Thanks for uploading <b><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Ghost Trick Phantom Detective screenshot.jpg (page does not exist)">File:Ghost Trick Phantom Detective screenshot.jpg</a></b>. 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Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-B-bot-20230721021000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:10, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-B-bot-20230721021000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-B-bot-20230721021000-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Ghost_Trick_Phantom_Detective_screenshot.jpg"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X" data-mw-thread-id="h-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X-20230723184800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X-20230723184800"></span>They are rebranding their logo as X<span data-mw-comment-end="h-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X-20230723184800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: They are rebranding their logo as X"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-יאצקין52-20230723184800-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X"></span>I think the picture might be useful to explain it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9F52&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:יאצקין52 (page does not exist)">יאצקין52</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%9F52" title="User talk:יאצקין52">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-יאצקין52-20230723184800-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:48, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-יאצקין52-20230723184800-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-יאצקין52-20230723184800-They_are_rebranding_their_logo_as_X"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230723185000-יאצקין52-20230723184800"></span>That picture doesn't help. Calling the change of Twitter to X as the "death of twitter" is a subjective matter so that picture is not really appropriate at this point. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230723185000-יאצקין52-20230723184800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230723185000-יאצקין52-20230723184800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230723185000-יאצקין52-20230723184800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FAC_Mentor" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAC_Mentor-20230723185300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAC_Mentor-20230723185300"></span>FAC Mentor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAC_Mentor-20230723185300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: FAC Mentor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Voorts-20230723185300-FAC_Mentor"></span>Hi Masem. I would like to bring <i><a href="/wiki/October_1_(film)" title="October 1 (film)">October 1</a></i> to FAC and saw that you're willing to mentor folks on film articles on the FAC mentor page. I've requested a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/October_1_(film)/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/October 1 (film)/archive1">peer review</a> for the article and would be very grateful if you could take a look. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Voorts" title="User:Voorts">voorts</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Voorts" title="User talk:Voorts">talk</a>/<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Voorts" title="Special:Contributions/Voorts">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Voorts-20230723185300-FAC_Mentor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:53, 23 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Voorts-20230723185300-FAC_Mentor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Voorts-20230723185300-FAC_Mentor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="pathfinder_source" data-mw-thread-id="h-pathfinder_source-20230725124200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-pathfinder_source-20230725124200"></span>pathfinder source<span data-mw-comment-end="h-pathfinder_source-20230725124200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: pathfinder source"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S_silth-20230725124200-pathfinder_source"></span>hey what should i cite? i have reddit post from the community manager and tweets from the official owlcat account about the subject as well. would those work? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:S_silth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:S silth (page does not exist)">S silth</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:S_silth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:S silth (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-S_silth-20230725124200-pathfinder_source" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S_silth-20230725124200-pathfinder_source"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S_silth-20230725124200-pathfinder_source"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230725132900-S_silth-20230725124200"></span>We would need a third party, non forum source for inclusion. Neither of those would work. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230725132900-S_silth-20230725124200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230725132900-S_silth-20230725124200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230725132900-S_silth-20230725124200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S_silth-20230725135400-Masem-20230725132900"></span>genuine question why is that not ok here, but some other pages use tweets or reddit posts (from certain people) as citations? (example i will give is the owl house page which cites both the above sites) i would like to understand the difference as while i am guessing there is one i don't see it and i want to understand it so i don't make the same mistakes. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:S_silth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:S silth (page does not exist)">S silth</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:S_silth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:S silth (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-S_silth-20230725135400-Masem-20230725132900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S_silth-20230725135400-Masem-20230725132900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S_silth-20230725135400-Masem-20230725132900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge-20230725180500"><span id="Your_draft_article.2C_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge-20230725180500"></span>Your draft article, <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:Squid Game: The Challenge (page does not exist)">Draft:Squid Game: The Challenge</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge-20230725180500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Your draft article, Draft:Squid Game: The Challenge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20230725180500-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/48px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="48" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/72px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/96px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Hello, Masem. 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An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. </p><p>Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Liz-20230725180500-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 25 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-20230725180500-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-20230725180500-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Squid_Game:_The_Challenge"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis" data-mw-thread-id="h-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis-20230726014700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis-20230726014700"></span>CS1 error on <a href="/wiki/303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis" title="303 Creative LLC v. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="User:Qwerfjkl (bot)">Qwerfjkl (bot)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl (bot)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230726014700-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:47, 26 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230726014700-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230726014700-CS1_error_on_303_Creative_LLC_v._Elenis"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Video_game" data-mw-thread-id="h-Video_game-20230726223300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Video_game-20230726223300"></span>Video game<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Video_game-20230726223300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Video game"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Fanoflionking-20230726223300-Video_game"></span>I have left a couple of discussion on <a href="/wiki/Talk:List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises" title="Talk:List of best-selling video game franchises">Talk:List of best-selling video game franchises</a> and wondering if you would like to get involved P+T <a href="/wiki/User:Fanoflionking" title="User:Fanoflionking">Fan Of Lion King 🦁</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fanoflionking" title="User talk:Fanoflionking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Fanoflionking-20230726223300-Video_game" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 26 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fanoflionking-20230726223300-Video_game"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fanoflionking-20230726223300-Video_game"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="E3" data-mw-thread-id="h-E3-20230728141400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-E3-20230728141400"></span>E3<span data-mw-comment-end="h-E3-20230728141400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: E3"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwater1-20230728141400-E3"></span>I think I read that statement wrong for <a href="/wiki/E3" title="E3">E3</a>. I do apologize. I also need to look at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_faith" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Good faith">Wikipedia:Good faith</a>. If I read the statement better, I probably would have said the statement better. <a href="/wiki/User:Cwater1" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Cwater1">Cwater1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwater1" title="User talk:Cwater1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Cwater1-20230728141400-E3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwater1-20230728141400-E3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwater1-20230728141400-E3"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_1_August_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023-20230801033800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023-20230801033800"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 1 August 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023-20230801033800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 1 August 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230801033800-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/News and notes">City officials attempt to doxx Wikipedians, Ruwiki founder banned, WMF launches Mastodon server</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/In the media">Truth, AI, bull from politicians, and climate change</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Disinformation report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Disinformation_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Disinformation report">Hot climate, hot hit, hot money, hot news hot off the presses!</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Obituary: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Obituary" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Obituary">Donald Cram, Peter McCawley, and Eagleash</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Tips and tricks: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Tips_and_tricks" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Tips and tricks">Citation tools for dummies!</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Humour">Does Wikipedia present neutral perspectives?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/In focus"><i>Journals cited by Wikipedia</i></a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Opinion">Are global bans the last step?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Featured content: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Featured_content" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Featured content">Featured Content, 1 to 15 July</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-01/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-01/Traffic report">Come on Oppie, let's go party</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2023-08-01" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-08-01">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230801033800-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230801033800-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230801033800-The_Signpost:_1_August_2023"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bad_logic" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bad_logic-20230803193300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bad_logic-20230803193300"></span>Bad logic<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bad_logic-20230803193300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Bad logic"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InedibleHulk-20230803193300-Bad_logic"></span>Convictions are nothing like what we talked about yesterday. When someone is convicted, there are clear consequences. Say the target article is a living voice actor and the crimes she committed carry a minimum eight-year prison sentence. Right there, we know we won't be hearing her in anything new (except maybe documentaries) until at least 2032. If the mandatory minimum is swift execution, that's the end of her career trajectory and everything else, definitively. </p><p>In Lack's case, she wasn't even part of it, consensually or otherwise. The settlement only affects descendants she never met and a company she hadn't heard of. The suit involved the relatively famous eponymous cells that affected her over 70 years ago, but there's absolutely nothing even <i>suggesting</i> their future use is or will be affected at all by whatever explicitly private agreement was reached the other day. </p><p>Anyway, I know I've been quite like a badger with you lately. I don't mean it in a malicious way, we've just run in the same circle so long that I can't help but notice you seem a bit "off" lately, relative to who I'm beginning to remember as "Classic Masem". Maybe it's a broader social problem or something entirely <i>else</i> pull-asides like these can't (and shouldn't try to) solve. But I'll lay off now and quietly hope you find your own way back toward those much clearer elucidations of the reasons you believe things are appropriate to blurb. Take care and have fun! <a href="/wiki/User:InedibleHulk" title="User:InedibleHulk">InedibleHulk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InedibleHulk" title="User talk:InedibleHulk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-InedibleHulk-20230803193300-Bad_logic" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 3 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InedibleHulk-20230803193300-Bad_logic"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InedibleHulk-20230803193300-Bad_logic"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230804011000-InedibleHulk-20230803193300"></span>Very few convictions have any long term effects <i>beyond</i> the person convicted, and do not change the past. Sure, something like Rodney King would be an exception in that case causing the infamous riots. But to take the most predominant example right now, being Trump, that should he actually be convicted, there is not going to be change of anything he did while president, and it won't eliminate him from running for the 2024 election. While there will be some fallout (and that's not considering possible violence from the MAGA side) it really doesn't have an effect. <i>But</i> we do want to report that, hey, he was found guilty, and explain why his conviction at least matters.</dd> <dd>I'm not saying we shouldn't post convictions, but it is that we're not posting them because of the impact on the future, simply as closure. Same with the Hernietta nom I made, its closure on the past. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230804011000-InedibleHulk-20230803193300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230804011000-InedibleHulk-20230803193300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230804011000-InedibleHulk-20230803193300"></span> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InedibleHulk-20230804164600-Masem-20230804011000"></span>Nothing</i> can change the past, of course, so I'm glad that's not a criterion. I wonder why you mention it. I do get what you're saying about convictions having a limited impact. There are also the convict's friends and family to consider, plus the lawyers, guards and cellmates (<a href="/wiki/Executioner" title="Executioner">among others</a>). Next to a natural disaster or general election, it pales in comparison. But next to a public reminder that a dead person once lived (which may be <i>all</i> the family in your nom gained), it...whatever the opposite of "pales" is. I'm not at liberty to discuss what's-his-name, but am glad this response of yours makes more sense than the last one. Cheers to freedom, from prison, incomprehensibility <i>and</i> bodysnatchers! <a href="/wiki/User:InedibleHulk" title="User:InedibleHulk">InedibleHulk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InedibleHulk" title="User talk:InedibleHulk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-InedibleHulk-20230804164600-Masem-20230804011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:46, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InedibleHulk-20230804164600-Masem-20230804011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InedibleHulk-20230804164600-Masem-20230804011000"></span></dd> <dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2023_August_4&diff=prev&oldid=1168758688"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InedibleHulk-20230804210500-Masem-20230804011000"></span>Speaking of fallout, it's live from New York!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:InedibleHulk" title="User:InedibleHulk">InedibleHulk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InedibleHulk" title="User talk:InedibleHulk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-InedibleHulk-20230804210500-Masem-20230804011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-InedibleHulk-20230804210500-Masem-20230804011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-InedibleHulk-20230804210500-Masem-20230804011000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability-20230808000700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability-20230808000700"></span>Regarding your revert on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability" title="Wikipedia:Notability">WP:Notability</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability-20230808000700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Regarding your revert on WP:Notability"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ca-20230808000700-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability"></span>Hello, I removed that sentence fragment based on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability#Confusing_passage" title="Wikipedia talk:Notability">Wikipedia_talk:Notability#Confusing_passage</a>. I'd admit the discussion was shallow, but I saw one !vote for removal. If you disagree, feel free to contribute there. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Ca" title="User:Ca">Ca</a> <sup><i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ca" title="User talk:Ca">talk to me!</a></i></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ca-20230808000700-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ca-20230808000700-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ca-20230808000700-Regarding_your_revert_on_WP:Notability"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse" data-mw-thread-id="h-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse-20230808211900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse-20230808211900"></span>Video games in the United States- Metaverse<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse-20230808211900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Video games in the United States- Metaverse"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ryan_York-20230808211900-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse"></span>I never mentioned that Metaverse is fully connected to the US game market. The reason I included the Metaverse title was because it showed the growth of the industry and how tech companies are trying to break into the industry. I mentined mostly American tech companies. I can change the language I used there if you want, but it is not fair to ignore the metaverse topic, considering the large investments made in the US game market because of the metaverse. <a href="/wiki/User:Ryan_York" title="User:Ryan York">Ryan York</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_York" title="User talk:Ryan York">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ryan_York-20230808211900-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ryan_York-20230808211900-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ryan_York-20230808211900-Video_games_in_the_United_States-_Metaverse"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230808215700-Ryan_York-20230808211900"></span>For one, the metaverse as a concept has not really taken off to dedicate a whole section to it. Now, that said, the inclusion of non tradition players in the video game market like Apple and Google (via mobile gaming) and Meta (for VR) makes sense but should be positioned simply as other important companies. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230808215700-Ryan_York-20230808211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 8 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230808215700-Ryan_York-20230808211900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230808215700-Ryan_York-20230808211900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming-20230811222000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming-20230811222000"></span>Ninth generation of video game consoles Cloud Gaming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming-20230811222000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: Ninth generation of video game consoles Cloud Gaming"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GonzoBlue-20230811222000-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming"></span>It was written in a way to show how both used cloud gaming as tool for sales and revenue generation in the 9th gen. The remove of the first sentence makes it sounds as if just Microsoft has used cloud gaming while PlayStation has been doing it longer it just wasn't a main talking point or a compelling feature as it was a part of the stand-alone service PlayStation now <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GonzoBlue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GonzoBlue (page does not exist)">GonzoBlue</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GonzoBlue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:GonzoBlue (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GonzoBlue-20230811222000-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 11 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GonzoBlue-20230811222000-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GonzoBlue-20230811222000-Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles_Cloud_Gaming"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230811223200-GonzoBlue-20230811222000"></span>Sources all point to the fact that MS had starting pushing cloud gaming far sooner than Sony. Sony has a solution but they aren't heavily marketing it. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230811223200-GonzoBlue-20230811222000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 11 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230811223200-GonzoBlue-20230811222000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230811223200-GonzoBlue-20230811222000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GonzoBlue-20230811223600-Masem-20230811223200"></span>Yes, I reworded it to show how Sony didn't start pushing it till 2022 with its revamp of plus, but I kept the mention of both companies in the first sentence to show how both are using it. As Without mentioning Sony in the first sentence, it makes the part about Sony in the last 2 sentences feel out of place and makes it easier to miss that both of them are currently using cloud gaming as a marketing push for their console. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:GonzoBlue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:GonzoBlue (page does not exist)">GonzoBlue</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GonzoBlue&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:GonzoBlue (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GonzoBlue-20230811223600-Masem-20230811223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 11 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GonzoBlue-20230811223600-Masem-20230811223200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GonzoBlue-20230811223600-Masem-20230811223200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13-20230813060100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13-20230813060100"></span>Disambiguation link notification for August 13<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13-20230813060100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for August 13"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20230813060100-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Video_games_in_the_United_Kingdom" title="Video games in the United Kingdom">Video games in the United Kingdom</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/3D_video_game" class="mw-disambig" title="3D video game">3D video game</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-DPL_bot-20230813060100-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:01, 13 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20230813060100-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20230813060100-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_August_13"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_15_August_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023-20230815141700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023-20230815141700"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 15 August 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023-20230815141700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 15 August 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230815141700-The_Signpost:_15_August_2023"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-15/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-15/News and notes">Dude, Where's My Donations? 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I see that you reverted my list edits on Guitar Hero and Rock band, and while you didn't keep it on Guitar Hero, you did on Rock Band. </p><p>The way I see it, using a table means that there are a lot of "No" choices, and just a few with "Yes". For Guitar Hero, most of the "Yes" goes to four systems: PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii. Other platforms get four or less "Yes", and some only get one. </p><p>For Rock Band, again, the dominant platforms are: PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii. Everything else only shows up once or twice. </p><p>I get that the list format can take some time to get used to, but I think it's the best format for Rock Band. Guitar Hero has a little more variance in terms of platform availability, but a list format should work there, too. What do you think? <a href="/wiki/User:LABcrabs" title="User:LABcrabs">LABcrabs</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LABcrabs" title="User talk:LABcrabs">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-LABcrabs-20230815175000-Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LABcrabs-20230815175000-Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LABcrabs-20230815175000-Guitar_Hero_and_Rock_Band_–_list_vs._table"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied-20230819112900"><span id="Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied-20230819112900"></span>Did we ever get a consensus on a limit on the number of words that can be copied?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied-20230819112900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Did we ever get a consensus on a limit on the number of words that can be copied?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230819112900-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied"></span>This seems excessive, but? <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Islam#Definitions">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Doug_Weller-20230819112900-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230819112900-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230819112900-Did_we_ever_get_a_consensus_on_a_limit_on_the_number_of_words_that_can_be_copied"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230819123900-Doug_Weller-20230819112900"></span>There's no hard limit on words, but what should be quoted should be enough to get the point across in the speaker's POV without excessive fluffery, which that really long quote on that page is definitely out of scope. Two or three sentences in that case seem sufficient. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230819123900-Doug_Weller-20230819112900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230819123900-Doug_Weller-20230819112900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230819123900-Doug_Weller-20230819112900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Doug_Weller-20230819132200-Masem-20230819123900"></span>Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller"><span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Doug_Weller-20230819132200-Masem-20230819123900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 19 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Doug_Weller-20230819132200-Masem-20230819123900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Doug_Weller-20230819132200-Masem-20230819123900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="remove_an_addition" data-mw-thread-id="h-remove_an_addition-20230827094100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-remove_an_addition-20230827094100"></span>remove an addition<span data-mw-comment-end="h-remove_an_addition-20230827094100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: remove an addition"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100-remove_an_addition"></span>hello, </p><p>I think that you've removed one of the additions on this page <a href="/wiki/Blockchain" title="Blockchain">Blockchain</a> , as you said it's a promotional addition, may I know the reason that you specify this addition as a promotional? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:NohaMokhtareg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:NohaMokhtareg (page does not exist)">Noha Mokhtar</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NohaMokhtareg" title="User talk:NohaMokhtareg">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100-remove_an_addition" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:41, 27 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100-remove_an_addition"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100-remove_an_addition"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230827131400-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100"></span>First, it was added to a section about general impacts of blockchain that had nothing to do with specific conferences. Second, it used the conference page itself as a source (primary work), and looked like it used language directly from the conference's page as the addition. It basically looked like trying to advertise the conference on Wikipedia, which is promotion and just not allowed. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230827131400-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 27 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230827131400-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230827131400-NohaMokhtareg-20230827094100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_31_August_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023-20230831004300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023-20230831004300"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 31 August 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023-20230831004300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 31 August 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20230831004300-The_Signpost:_31_August_2023"></span>From the editor: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/From the editor">Beta version of signpost.news now online</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/News and notes">You like RecentChanges?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/In the media">Taking it sleazy</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/Recent research">The five barriers that impede "stitching" collaboration between Commons and Wikipedia</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Draftspace: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/Draftspace" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/Draftspace">Bad Jokes and Other Draftspace Novelties</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/Humour">The Dehumourification Plan</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-08-31/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-08-31/Traffic report">Raise your drinking glass, here's to yesterday</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; 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How exactly is it too much detail? What, should I put them into subcategories? I thought Wikipedia was for, you know, providing information. And also, you said I didn't use "encyclopaedic writing", please tell me how this is not like, ok. Also you reverted the grammar improvements I made. Please elaborate why you did this?in addition you stated I used too many 1st party sources, I don't see how this is bad.<a href="/wiki/User:SK55555" title="User:SK55555">SK55555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SK55555" title="User talk:SK55555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-SK55555-20230918131900-Cities_Skylines_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SK55555-20230918131900-Cities_Skylines_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SK55555-20230918131900-Cities_Skylines_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20230919004000-SK55555-20230918131900"></span>Some of the issues: <ul><li>On language, you have added this sentence " Now, you still indirectly need milestones to unlock services,..." which is not how we write gameplay per <a href="/wiki/MOS:VG" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:VG">MOS:VG</a>. It would be more appropriate to say "Players need to indirectly unlock services..."</li> <li>On detail, this same section is far too detailed on <i>what</i> a tech tree is (when the link to <a href="/wiki/Technology_tree" title="Technology tree">technology tree</a> explains the basics, and we only need to explain how the player moves along it, which is via achieving certain milestones in game. It doesn't need to anywhere as long as you added.</li> <li>And we try to avoid using primary sources, particularly for commercial releases, since they are not independent sources. There is coverage of C:S II's features from third-party sources and we should use how they summarize the features for our articles.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20230919004000-SK55555-20230918131900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 19 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20230919004000-SK55555-20230918131900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20230919004000-SK55555-20230918131900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx-20230925094200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx-20230925094200"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/OSIRIS-REx" title="OSIRIS-REx">OSIRIS-REx</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx-20230925094200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for OSIRIS-REx"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20230925094200-ITN_recognition_for_OSIRIS-REx"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 25 September 2023, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/OSIRIS-REx" title="OSIRIS-REx">OSIRIS-REx</a></b></i>, which you nominated. 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Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" title="User:Qwerfjkl (bot)">Qwerfjkl (bot)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qwerfjkl_(bot)" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Qwerfjkl (bot)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230925122600-CS1_error_on_Loot_box" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230925122600-CS1_error_on_Loot_box"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qwerfjkl_(bot)-20230925122600-CS1_error_on_Loot_box"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"-20230928134900"><span id="Mentoring_request_for_.22Borderline_.28Madonna_song.29.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"-20230928134900"></span>Mentoring request for "<a href="/wiki/Borderline_(Madonna_song)" title="Borderline (Madonna song)">Borderline (Madonna song)</a>"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"-20230928134900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: Mentoring request for "Borderline (Madonna song)""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chrishm21-20230928134900-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)""></span>Hello, how are you? I recently re-expanded all articles related to singer <a href="/wiki/Madonna" title="Madonna">Madonna</a>'s first album with more relevant, previously missing information. I'd like to take "Borderline", my favorite song from said albun, to FA status. It would be my first FAC, so I'm looking for a mentor who can assist me :) If you're interested, please let me know Thanks in advance! <a href="/wiki/User:Chrishm21" title="User:Chrishm21">Christian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chrishm21" title="User talk:Chrishm21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Chrishm21-20230928134900-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chrishm21-20230928134900-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chrishm21-20230928134900-Mentoring_request_for_"Borderline_(Madonna_song)""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_the_2600+" data-mw-thread-id="h-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th-20231001151100"><span id="Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_the_2600.2B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th-20231001151100"></span>Clarifying the Continuation of the Atari 2600 Series with the Introduction of the 2600+<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th-20231001151100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: Clarifying the Continuation of the Atari 2600 Series with the Introduction of the 2600+"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ItIsNERD-20231001151100-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th"></span>Dear Masem, I recently made edits to the Atari 2600 page to reflect the continuation of the Atari 2600 series with the introduction of the 2600+ model in 2023. These edits were based on official sources, specifically from the Atari company itself and the developer's statements. The primary basis for this edit is the official announcement by Atari: "The legendary console that started it all - the grandfather of living room arcade gaming - is back and better than ever! With over 40 million units sold globally" This statement from Atari clearly indicates that the 2600+ is a continuation of the original Atari 2600 series. I understand the importance of maintaining the accuracy and integrity of Wikipedia. Therefore, I want to open this discussion to ensure that all perspectives are considered. The intention is not to mislead or provide false information but to accurately represent the evolution and continuation of the Atari 2600 series. Given that the 2600+ is described as an "updated version of the iconic Atari 2600," it seems fitting to consider it within the same lineage, much like how updated or "slim" variants of other consoles are still considered part of their respective series. I welcome feedback and insights from the community. If there are additional sources or perspectives that should be considered, please share them. Together, let's ensure that the Atari 2600 page accurately reflects the rich history and ongoing legacy of this iconic gaming console. Sources: </p><p>[1]<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://discord.com/channels/866714430208213002/866715614687789056/1143534227820916897">https://discord.com/channels/866714430208213002/866715614687789056/1143534227820916897</a> [2]<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://atari.com/products/atari-2600-plus?_pos=1&_fid=6a6b44687&_ss=c">https://atari.com/products/atari-2600-plus?_pos=1&_fid=6a6b44687&_ss=c</a> [3]<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forums.atariage.com/topic/354609-atariage-atari/">https://forums.atariage.com/topic/354609-atariage-atari/</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ItIsNERD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ItIsNERD (page does not exist)">ItIsNERD</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ItIsNERD&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:ItIsNERD (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-ItIsNERD-20231001151100-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ItIsNERD-20231001151100-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ItIsNERD-20231001151100-Clarifying_the_Continuation_of_the_Atari_2600_Series_with_the_Introduction_of_th"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RfC_for_ITN_entries" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfC_for_ITN_entries-20231002150000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfC_for_ITN_entries-20231002150000"></span>RfC for ITN entries<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfC_for_ITN_entries-20231002150000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: RfC for ITN entries"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Usernamekiran-20231002150000-RfC_for_ITN_entries"></span>Hello. I hope you are doing well. It seems there is some discussion going on regarding adding blurbs to recent deaths, and another discussion to include non-human recent deaths. Do you think if it would be a good idea to start a formal discussion, or an RfC to change MOS of ITN entries with regards to the archive bot? The proposed changes in my head are not actually visible, and they would be inside the invisible html comments. That way, nothing visible is actually changed from what it is currently, but it would make it pretty straight forward to the bot to distinguish entries from events/news blurbs, recent deaths, and ongoing events. I am thinking adding invisible comments similar to: </p> <ul><li><code>* [[Russian invasion of Ukraine]]</code> (OE for "ongoing event", or CE for "current event")</li> <li><code>* <blurb if required> [[Dianne Feinstein]]</code></li> <li><code>* {{nowrap|[[M. S. Swaminathan]]}}</code></li></ul> <p>Kindly let me know what you think. —usernamekiran <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Usernamekiran" title="User talk:Usernamekiran">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Usernamekiran-20231002150000-RfC_for_ITN_entries" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 2 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Usernamekiran-20231002150000-RfC_for_ITN_entries"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Usernamekiran-20231002150000-RfC_for_ITN_entries"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231002150600-Usernamekiran-20231002150000"></span>I don't think there is a need to worry about tagging RD blurbs as RDs here. Tagging being blurbs and RDs would be nice , and even if the ITN stuff changes the bot you have should still be working. The goal is just to be able to search the changes on the ITN template, and thus having the diff between blurb and RD is not essential. 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id="c-TonyTheTiger-20231003205100-Image_review"></span>Any chance you will be able to dig in for a detailed file by file image review regarding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#FUR_issues_at_Campbell's_Soup_Cans" title="Wikipedia:Media copyright questions">Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#FUR_issues_at_Campbell's_Soup_Cans</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:TonyTheTiger" title="User:TonyTheTiger">TonyTheTiger</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TonyTheTiger" title="User talk:TonyTheTiger">T</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger" title="Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger">C</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOUR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FOUR">WP:FOUR</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHICAGO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHICAGO">WP:CHICAGO</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAWARD">WP:WAWARD</a>)</small> <a 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title="Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger">C</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FOUR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FOUR">WP:FOUR</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHICAGO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHICAGO">WP:CHICAGO</a> / <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WAWARD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WAWARD">WP:WAWARD</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-TonyTheTiger-20231009154500-TonyTheTiger-20231003205100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:45, 9 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TonyTheTiger-20231009154500-TonyTheTiger-20231003205100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TonyTheTiger-20231009154500-TonyTheTiger-20231003205100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page-20231006144800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page-20231006144800"></span>Edits to Baroness Joanna Shields page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page-20231006144800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: Edits to Baroness Joanna Shields page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LauTad89-20231006144800-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page"></span>My name is Laura and I work for <a href="/wiki/Joanna_Shields,_Baroness_Shields" title="Joanna Shields, Baroness Shields">Joanna Shields, Baroness Shields</a>, a baron, businessperson, and former British politician. The page about her was recently tagged for COI and advert issues due to some poor edits made years ago. I posted <a href="/wiki/Talk:Joanna_Shields,_Baroness_Shields#Edits_to_Joanna_Shields_page" title="Talk:Joanna Shields, Baroness Shields"> here</a> regarding my desire to address the substance of the tags with a re-write or heavy trims, to remove the promotional content. I was hoping you might be willing to chime in on the proposed trims and/or the suggestion for a rewrite. Let me know. Best regards.~~~~ <a href="/wiki/User:LauTad89" title="User:LauTad89">LauTad89</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LauTad89" title="User talk:LauTad89">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-LauTad89-20231006144800-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:48, 6 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LauTad89-20231006144800-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LauTad89-20231006144800-Edits_to_Baroness_Joanna_Shields_page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse-20231007190400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse-20231007190400"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Jon_Fosse" title="Jon Fosse">Jon Fosse</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse-20231007190400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Jon Fosse"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schwede66-20231007190400-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 7 October 2023, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Jon_Fosse" title="Jon Fosse">Jon Fosse</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"><span style="color: #000000;">Schwede</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66"><span style="color: #FF4500;">66</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Schwede66-20231007190400-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schwede66-20231007190400-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schwede66-20231007190400-ITN_recognition_for_Jon_Fosse"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page." data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page.-20231015040700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page.-20231015040700"></span>Regarding levels of notability for the films page.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page.-20231015040700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Regarding levels of notability for the films page."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373-20231015040700-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page."></span>I have been trying to get this on here for a good few weeks and that was probably the best the page had been written. There are other examples of YouTube videos being included as sources such as for YouTubers coryxkenshin markiplier and penguinz0. And secondly all of the videos included on the page have atleast over a million views. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373" title="Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373">2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373" title="User talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373-20231015040700-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:07, 15 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373-20231015040700-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373-20231015040700-Regarding_levels_of_notability_for_the_films_page."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton" data-mw-thread-id="h-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton-20231022173900"><span id="Andrew_Davidson.2FBobby_Charlton"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton-20231022173900"></span>Andrew Davidson/Bobby Charlton<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton-20231022173900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Andrew Davidson/Bobby Charlton"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Kip-20231022173900-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton"></span>At which point does Andrew’s behavior begin to become less simply annoying and more genuinely disruptive? It’s a constant parade from him of misrepresentation, blatant disregard for guidelines (including the classic “but it’s got massive readership!!!”), bad faith arguments, and in general <i>very</i> few positive contributions to ITNC. </p><p>When would be appropriate to bring it to ANI or similar and try to get a TBAN? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Kip" title="User:The Kip"><span style="color:#333f42;"><b>The</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Kip" title="User talk:The Kip"><span style="color:#b4975a;"><b>Kip</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Kip-20231022173900-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Kip-20231022173900-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Kip-20231022173900-Andrew_Davidson/Bobby_Charlton"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_23_October_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023-20231023070100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023-20231023070100"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 23 October 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023-20231023070100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 23 October 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231023070100-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/News and notes">Where have all the administrators gone?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/In the media">Thirst traps, the fastest loading sites on the web, and the original collaborative writing</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Gallery: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/Gallery" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/Gallery">Before and After: Why you don't need to know how to restore images to make massive improvements</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Featured content: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/Featured_content" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/Featured content">Yo, ho! Blow the man down!</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/Traffic report">The calm and the storm</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News from Diff: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/News_from_Diff" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/News from Diff">Sawtpedia: Giving a Voice to Wikipedia Using QR Codes</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-10-23/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-10-23/Humour">New citation template introduced for divine revelations, drug use, and really thinking about it</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2023-10-23" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-10-23">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231023070100-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231023070100-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231023070100-The_Signpost:_23_October_2023"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions-20231024174100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions-20231024174100"></span>Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions-20231024174100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=69" title="Edit section: Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonathan_at_CornellNLP-20231024174100-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions"></span>Hello Masem, </p><p>I’m reaching out as part of a Cornell University academic study investigating the potential for user-facing tools to help improve discussion quality within Wikipedia discussion spaces (such as talk pages, noticeboards, etc.). We chose to reach out to you because you have been highly active on various discussion pages. </p><p>The study centers around a prototype tool, ConvoWizard, which is designed to warn Wikipedia editors when a discussion they are replying to is getting tense and at risk of derailing into personal attacks or incivility. More information about ConvoWizard and the study can be found at our <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:ConvoWizard:_Understanding_the_Effects_of_Providing_Interlocutors_with_Information_about_the_Trajectory_of_their_Ongoing_Conversations" class="extiw" title="m:Research:ConvoWizard: Understanding the Effects of Providing Interlocutors with Information about the Trajectory of their Ongoing Conversations">research project page on meta-wiki</a>. </p><p>If this sounds like it might be interesting to you, you can use <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://cornell.ca1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_dm4TiyTZkTfIICO">this link</a> to sign up and install ConvoWizard. Of course, if you are not interested, feel free to ignore this message. </p><p>If you have any questions or thoughts about the study, our team is happy to discuss! You may direct such comments to me or to my collaborator, <a href="/wiki/User:Cristian_at_CornellNLP" title="User:Cristian at CornellNLP">Cristian_at_CornellNLP</a>. </p><p>Thank you for your consideration. </p><p>--- <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_at_CornellNLP" title="User:Jonathan at CornellNLP">Jonathan at CornellNLP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_at_CornellNLP" title="User talk:Jonathan at CornellNLP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Jonathan_at_CornellNLP-20231024174100-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathan_at_CornellNLP-20231024174100-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonathan_at_CornellNLP-20231024174100-Invitation_to_Cornell_study_on_Wikipedia_discussions"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Certiorari_vs._certified_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Certiorari_vs._certified_question-20231024180700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Certiorari_vs._certified_question-20231024180700"></span><a href="/wiki/Certiorari" title="Certiorari">Certiorari</a> vs. <a href="/wiki/Certified_question" title="Certified question">certified question</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Certiorari_vs._certified_question-20231024180700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=70" title="Edit section: Certiorari vs. certified question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20231024180700-Certiorari_vs._certified_question"></span>Hi Masem, </p><p>There have been a handful of times that I have removed something saaying SCOTUS "certified" a case (where it granted certiorari), and it seems that you were the one who wrote that in each instance. Note that <a href="/wiki/Certified_question#Certification_of_questions_to_the_United_States_Supreme_Court" title="Certified question">certification</a> is a different procedure than certiorari, and I don't think grants of certiorari by SCOTUS are referred to as certification. If you can find some source saying that is correct terminology, I would be interested to see it. I would suggest instead "granted review", "agreed to hear", etc. <a href="/wiki/User:SilverLocust" title="User:SilverLocust"><small style="color:#667;background:white;border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">SilverLocust</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilverLocust" title="User talk:SilverLocust">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-SilverLocust-20231024180700-Certiorari_vs._certified_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 24 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilverLocust-20231024180700-Certiorari_vs._certified_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilverLocust-20231024180700-Certiorari_vs._certified_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231025001700-SilverLocust-20231024180700"></span>Yeah, that's probably my fault, I thought I might have seen it in a few places, but can't find anything. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231025001700-SilverLocust-20231024180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231025001700-SilverLocust-20231024180700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231025001700-SilverLocust-20231024180700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Former_logo_image_gallery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Former_logo_image_gallery-20231026064300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Former_logo_image_gallery-20231026064300"></span>Former logo image gallery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Former_logo_image_gallery-20231026064300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Former logo image gallery"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20231026064300-Former_logo_image_gallery"></span>Hi Masem. Do you think the first three logos (the red and yellow ones) in <a href="/wiki/Beijing_Guoan_F.C.#Crest_history" title="Beijing Guoan F.C.">Beijing Guoan F.C.#Crest history</a> are simple enough to be <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:PD-ineligible-USonly" title="Template:PD-ineligible-USonly">PD-ineligible-USonly</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for local use on Wikipedia? Otherwise, I can't see how they can be kept as non-free per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFC#cite_note-4" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFC">WP:NFC#cite_note-4</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NFG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NFG">WP:NFG</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Marchjuly-20231026064300-Former_logo_image_gallery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 26 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20231026064300-Former_logo_image_gallery"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20231026064300-Former_logo_image_gallery"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231027000400-Marchjuly-20231026064300"></span>I would lean on them being too complex to qualify for TOO in the US or in China, and agree that maybe only one can be kept, since the key part of the logo remains constant on all four them. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231027000400-Marchjuly-20231026064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231027000400-Marchjuly-20231026064300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231027000400-Marchjuly-20231026064300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20231027075800-Masem-20231027000400"></span>Thank you for taking a look at this. All four are currently being used in a gallery which makes even less sense for a single logo. So, any ideas on which of the four probably should be kept and where (if possible) it can be inserted into the body of the article. The most recent of the four (the green one) is not too different from the current logo; so, I think that one is probably not needed at all. So, that leaves one of the three red and yellow logos, at least it does in my opinion. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Marchjuly-20231027075800-Masem-20231027000400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20231027075800-Masem-20231027000400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20231027075800-Masem-20231027000400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_the_films_talk_page_I_am_making_sure_the_word_is_known_and_spread.)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t-20231027161900"><span id="Regarding_sources_for_the_film_.28this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_the_films_talk_page_I_am_making_sure_the_word_is_known_and_spread..29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t-20231027161900"></span>Regarding sources for the film (this is not a spam attempt if this was seen on the films talk page I am making sure the word is known and spread.)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t-20231027161900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Regarding sources for the film (this is not a spam attempt if this was seen on the films talk page I am making sure the word is known and spread.)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027161900-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t"></span>Hey alright so this is probably going to be the last attempt to get this mentioned on the page (Unless for example a article gets published on AV club or something.) There is a 2 articles that mentions the video I'm trying to put in (If it appears black you have to scroll down.) <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://chattymatters.com/9761/previous-articles-videos/the-rise-of-the-video-essay/">https://chattymatters.com/9761/previous-articles-videos/the-rise-of-the-video-essay/</a> and another one <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://thesciencesurvey.com/arts-entertainment/2020/06/19/bored-try-watching-some-youtube-video-essays/">https://thesciencesurvey.com/arts-entertainment/2020/06/19/bored-try-watching-some-youtube-video-essays/</a> Both mention the creator of the video. Now I understand TV tropes is user generated however I have found examples of it being used on other pages (<a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_TV_programs_containing_corporal_punishment_scenes">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_TV_programs_containing_corporal_punishment_scenes</a> The TV tropes source is on the third reference link.) And the cult following it has received is also mentioned here (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VindicatedByHistory/AnimatedFilms">https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VindicatedByHistory/AnimatedFilms</a> Click on "dreamworks animation." And it will show you it.) (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/SchaffrillasProductions">https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/SchaffrillasProductions</a> When you find the words "Sleeper hit." It will mention the video.) The creator is mentioned on both IMDB and ironically av club (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.avclub.com/tv/reviews/schaffrillas-productions-2015">https://www.avclub.com/tv/reviews/schaffrillas-productions-2015</a>) (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15028658/">https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15028658/</a>) here are the memes it has received aswell <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/Megamind">https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/Megamind</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534" title="Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534">2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534" title="User talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027161900-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:19, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027161900-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027161900-Regarding_sources_for_the_film_(this_is_not_a_spam_attempt_if_this_was_seen_on_t"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Final_statement_for_now." data-mw-thread-id="h-Final_statement_for_now.-20231027212400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Final_statement_for_now.-20231027212400"></span>Final statement for now.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Final_statement_for_now.-20231027212400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Final statement for now."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027212400-Final_statement_for_now."></span>Read this and it will give you a idea of what I tried to make the page like <a class="external free" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Megamind&oldid=1180201171">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Megamind&oldid=1180201171</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534" title="Special:Contributions/2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534">2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534" title="User talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027212400-Final_statement_for_now." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 27 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534-20231027212400-Final_statement_for_now."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" 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If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Stephen-20231029223300-ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20231029223300-ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20231029223300-ITN_recognition_for_Richard_Roundtree"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vimeo_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vimeo_request-20231030211700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vimeo_request-20231030211700"></span>Vimeo request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vimeo_request-20231030211700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=75" title="Edit section: Vimeo request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BINK_Robin-20231030211700-Vimeo_request"></span>Hi, I've posted an edit request over on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Vimeo" title="Talk:Vimeo">Talk:Vimeo</a> and see that you've typically responded to past requests about the article. If you're available, I'd welcome your feedback. Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:BINK_Robin" title="User:BINK Robin">BINK Robin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BINK_Robin" title="User talk:BINK Robin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BINK_Robin-20231030211700-Vimeo_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BINK_Robin-20231030211700-Vimeo_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BINK_Robin-20231030211700-Vimeo_request"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023-20231104172800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023-20231104172800"></span><a href="/wiki/Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023" title="Robinson Ekspeditionen 2023">Robinson Ekspeditionen 2023</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023-20231104172800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Robinson Ekspeditionen 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bgsu98-20231104172800-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023"></span>When you have a moment, could you head over to this article (it’s Dutch Survivor) and weigh in on the never-ending rigamarole with the colors on the voting table. Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Bgsu98" title="User:Bgsu98"><span style="color:darkorange;"><b>Bgsu98</b></span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bgsu98" title="User talk:Bgsu98"><span style="color:darkorange;">(Talk)</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Bgsu98-20231104172800-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 4 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bgsu98-20231104172800-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bgsu98-20231104172800-Robinson_Ekspeditionen_2023"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_6_November_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023-20231106034400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023-20231106034400"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 6 November 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023-20231106034400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=77" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 6 November 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231106034400-The_Signpost:_6_November_2023"></span>Arbitration report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Arbitration_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Arbitration report">Admin bewilderingly unmasks self as sockpuppet of other admin who was extremely banned in 2015</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/In the media">UK shadow chancellor accused of ripping off WP articles for book, Wikipedians accused of being dicks by a rich man</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/News and notes">Board candidacy process posted, editors protest WMF privacy measure, sweet meetups</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Opinion">An open letter to Elon Musk</a></li></ul> <ul><li>WikiCup report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/WikiCup_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/WikiCup report">The WikiCup 2023</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News from Wiki Ed: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/News_from_Wiki_Ed" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/News from Wiki Ed">Equity lists on Wikipedia</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Recent research">How English Wikipedia drove out fringe editors over two decades</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Featured content: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Featured_content" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Featured content">Like putting a golf course in a historic site.</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Wikidata: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Wikidata" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Wikidata">Evaluating qualitative systemic bias in large article sets on Wikipedia</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-06/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-06/Traffic report">Cricket jumpscare</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; 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Please check your email; you've got mail! <br/><span class="plainlinks" style="font-size: 88%; font-weight: normal;">Message added 22:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can <span class="noprint plainlinks" title="Edit {{{1}}}"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit">remove this notice</a></span> at any time by removing the <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:You%27ve_got_mail" title="Template:You've got mail">You've got mail</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> or <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Ygm" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ygm">ygm</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> template.</span></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:BangJan1999" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BangJan1999">BangJan1999</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BangJan1999-20231112223900-You've_got_mail!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BangJan1999-20231112223900-You've_got_mail!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BangJan1999-20231112223900-You've_got_mail!"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BangJan1999-20231114162700-BangJan1999-20231112223900"></span>Could you please confirm you've seen my email? <a href="/wiki/User:BangJan1999" class="mw-redirect" title="User:BangJan1999">BangJan1999</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BangJan1999-20231114162700-BangJan1999-20231112223900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BangJan1999-20231114162700-BangJan1999-20231112223900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BangJan1999-20231114162700-BangJan1999-20231112223900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231115012900-BangJan1999-20231114162700"></span>Yes, I got it. I'm taking it into consideration. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231115012900-BangJan1999-20231114162700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231115012900-BangJan1999-20231114162700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231115012900-BangJan1999-20231114162700"></span></dd></dl></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello_there,_Masem" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello_there,_Masem-20231113145900"><span id="Hello_there.2C_Masem"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello_there,_Masem-20231113145900"></span>Hello there, Masem<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello_there,_Masem-20231113145900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=79" title="Edit section: Hello there, Masem"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GeniusWorkbench4622-20231113145900-Hello_there,_Masem"></span>Hello there. I noticed that <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.128.89.93" title="Special:Contributions/72.128.89.93">this IP</a> appears to have been blocked indef. It appears to be unintentional as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IPBLENGTH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:IPBLENGTH">this page</a> states, and I quote, “IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked.”, especially when the IPs get reassigned to different users. Also, the IP[v6] address mentioned in the block reason (the one beginning with 2603:6000) is blocked 366 days, so the same length could also be applied to the former as well. -<span style="font-family:Motomangucode"><a href="/wiki/User:GeniusWorkbench4622" title="User:GeniusWorkbench4622">Genius</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GeniusWorkbench4622" title="User talk:GeniusWorkbench4622">Workbench</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GeniusWorkbench4622" title="Special:Contributions/GeniusWorkbench4622">4622</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GeniusWorkbench4622-20231113145900-Hello_there,_Masem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GeniusWorkbench4622-20231113145900-Hello_there,_Masem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GeniusWorkbench4622-20231113145900-Hello_there,_Masem"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20231114192200"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20231114192200"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20231114192200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=80" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Keagen_J._Cole-20231114192200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For your valued contribution to the Five Nights at Freddy's (franchise) Article. ^w^ <a href="/wiki/User:Keagen_J._Cole" title="User:Keagen J. Cole">Keagen J. Cole</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Keagen_J._Cole" title="User talk:Keagen J. Cole">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Keagen_J._Cole-20231114192200-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 14 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Keagen_J._Cole-20231114192200-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Keagen_J._Cole-20231114192200-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Page_number_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Page_number_request-20231117042300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Page_number_request-20231117042300"></span>Page number request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Page_number_request-20231117042300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=81" title="Edit section: Page number request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-深鸣-20231117042300-Page_number_request"></span>Hello. I noticed that in <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pong&diff=1016499751&oldid=1013812969">this edit</a></span> in <i><a href="/wiki/Pong" title="Pong">Pong</a></i> you added the book source, but not the page numbers. Could you please add page number? Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:深鸣 (page does not exist)">深鸣</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3" title="User talk:深鸣">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-深鸣-20231117042300-Page_number_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-深鸣-20231117042300-Page_number_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-深鸣-20231117042300-Page_number_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231117051900-深鸣-20231117042300"></span>I can't, I have it as an electronic book, so the best I can do is narrow it to the chapter. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231117051900-深鸣-20231117042300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231117051900-深鸣-20231117042300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231117051900-深鸣-20231117042300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-深鸣-20231117052400-Masem-20231117051900"></span>OK. Thank you for your reply. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:深鸣 (page does not exist)">深鸣</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3" title="User talk:深鸣">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-深鸣-20231117052400-Masem-20231117051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-深鸣-20231117052400-Masem-20231117051900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-深鸣-20231117052400-Masem-20231117051900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-深鸣-20231117104100-Masem-20231117051900"></span>BTW, could you please send the electronic book to me via email? I want to translate this article into Chinese, so I need to verify every source. Thanks! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:深鸣 (page does not exist)">深鸣</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E6%B7%B1%E9%B8%A3" title="User talk:深鸣">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-深鸣-20231117104100-Masem-20231117051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:41, 17 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-深鸣-20231117104100-Masem-20231117051900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-深鸣-20231117104100-Masem-20231117051900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_20_November_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023-20231120094400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023-20231120094400"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 20 November 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023-20231120094400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=82" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 20 November 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231120094400-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023"></span>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-20/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-20/In the media">Propaganda and photos, lunatics and a lunar backup</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-20/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-20/News and notes">Update on Wikimedia's financial health</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-20/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-20/Traffic report">If it bleeds, it leads</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-20/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-20/Recent research">Canceling disputes as the real function of ArbCom</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Wikimania: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-11-20/Wikimania" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-11-20/Wikimania">Wikimania 2024 scholarships</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2023-11-20" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-11-20">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231120094400-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231120094400-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231120094400-The_Signpost:_20_November_2023"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FAC_mentor_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-FAC_mentor_2-20231121194700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FAC_mentor_2-20231121194700"></span>FAC mentor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FAC_mentor_2-20231121194700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=83" title="Edit section: FAC mentor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skyshifter-20231121194700-FAC_mentor_2"></span>Hello Masem! I was looking through the FAC mentors list and apparently you are the only one with a specific interest in video games. I've just <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/OneShot/archive3" title="Wikipedia:Peer review/OneShot/archive3">opened a PR</a> for <i><a href="/wiki/OneShot" title="OneShot">OneShot</a></i>, currently a GA, to possibly make it my first FA. Any kind of help would be appreciated! <big><a href="/wiki/User:Skyshifter" title="User:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#6E41B5;">Skyshifter</span></a></big> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skyshifter" title="User talk:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#8F88C2"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Skyshifter-20231121194700-FAC_mentor_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 21 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skyshifter-20231121194700-FAC_mentor_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skyshifter-20231121194700-FAC_mentor_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231122013500-Skyshifter-20231121194700"></span>Yes, I can help, let me know what you are looking for. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231122013500-Skyshifter-20231121194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:35, 22 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231122013500-Skyshifter-20231121194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231122013500-Skyshifter-20231121194700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skyshifter-20231123193700-Masem-20231122013500"></span>I don't know exactly how it works... I guess for now, any kind of comment regarding the state of <i><a href="/wiki/OneShot" title="OneShot">OneShot</a></i>, if it's too far from FAC or what can be done to improve it, would be helpful. I guess in particular, I know FAC has very high standards for sources, so I would like to know if the article has high-quality sources. It also uses some primary sources and interviews that FAC reviewers <i>might</i> not like, but I'm not sure. <big><a href="/wiki/User:Skyshifter" title="User:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#6E41B5;">Skyshifter</span></a></big> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skyshifter" title="User talk:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#8F88C2"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Skyshifter-20231123193700-Masem-20231122013500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:37, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skyshifter-20231123193700-Masem-20231122013500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skyshifter-20231123193700-Masem-20231122013500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231123204000-Skyshifter-20231123193700"></span>Gotcha. So here's a few things to start: <ul><li>You should make sure to get a copyedit of the prose done. That can be requested at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GOCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GOCE">WP:GOCE</a></li> <li>You do have a lot of "proseline", which are sentences that go "On (date), (something happened). One of these in a paragraph is fine, but your release section has multiple instances of this.</li> <li>In your reception section, I don't think you need to repeat the work associated with each reviewer - identifying who they write for on the first time is good, but not on subsequent ones.</li> <li>I do think you are okay on where the primary sources come in, but I'd suggest preparing for trying to replace them if possible, that could come up at FAC.</li> <li>You may want to spruce up the non-free image rationals for the gameplay. for example, on the second one, you should indicate that the dark atmosphere was an element picked up by reviewers. The more you can explain why you need the image in those rationals, the better.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Everything else seems to be ready to go for FAC, but I can say that having that copyedit done first is going to help with FAC. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231123204000-Skyshifter-20231123193700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231123204000-Skyshifter-20231123193700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231123204000-Skyshifter-20231123193700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skyshifter-20231123220400-Masem-20231123204000"></span>Regarding the third point I really wanted to follow what articles like <i><a href="/wiki/Viva_Pi%C3%B1ata:_Trouble_in_Paradise" title="Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise">Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise</a></i> did, but I think I'm gonna remove it since it doesn't seem to be very common indeed. I will ask for a copyedit at GOCE and try to sort the other stuff out. Thank you for your comments! <big><a href="/wiki/User:Skyshifter" title="User:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#6E41B5;">Skyshifter</span></a></big> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skyshifter" title="User talk:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#8F88C2"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Skyshifter-20231123220400-Masem-20231123204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 23 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skyshifter-20231123220400-Masem-20231123204000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skyshifter-20231123220400-Masem-20231123204000"></span> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skyshifter-20231128184700-Skyshifter-20231123220400"></span>Copyedit done!</li> <li>I've tried to fix a few of these proseline sentences</li> <li>Removed work for each repetition</li> <li>Will try to look for replacements or at least already form an argument to keep these primary sources.</li> <li>Added more info to the rationales.</li></ul></dd> <dd>Thank you for your help so far! Should I close the PR and go with FAC already or should I still get some opinions there? <big><a href="/wiki/User:Skyshifter" title="User:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#6E41B5;">Skyshifter</span></a></big> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skyshifter" title="User talk:Skyshifter"><span style="color:#8F88C2"><sup>talk</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Skyshifter-20231128184700-Skyshifter-20231123220400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:47, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skyshifter-20231128184700-Skyshifter-20231123220400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skyshifter-20231128184700-Skyshifter-20231123220400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231129013700-Skyshifter-20231128184700"></span>I would let the PR play out for its time period (30 days? Can't recall) and then move to the FAC, rather than jumping the gun. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231129013700-Skyshifter-20231128184700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:37, 29 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231129013700-Skyshifter-20231128184700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231129013700-Skyshifter-20231128184700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skyshifter-20231222033000-Masem-20231129013700"></span>I've opened the FAC at <a 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There was rivalry way way way beyond US & Canada. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dock_Mock" title="User:Dock Mock">Dock Mock</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dock_Mock" title="User talk:Dock Mock">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Dock_Mock-20231206230200-Console_war" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:02, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dock_Mock-20231206230200-Console_war"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dock_Mock-20231206230200-Console_war"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231207034500-Dock_Mock-20231206230200"></span>The point is that most sources that talk about the console war between Nintendo and Sega frame it around the US market, not the international one. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231207034500-Dock_Mock-20231206230200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231207034500-Dock_Mock-20231206230200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231207034500-Dock_Mock-20231206230200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dock_Mock-20231207200900-Masem-20231207034500"></span>Do you want to go along with 'international (mainly North American)' or something similar? I think it's good to reflect just how far-reaching the rivalry was, with people like me myself jumping on the Sega bandwagon. <a href="/wiki/User:Dock_Mock" title="User:Dock Mock">Dock Mock</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dock_Mock" title="User talk:Dock Mock">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Dock_Mock-20231207200900-Masem-20231207034500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:09, 7 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dock_Mock-20231207200900-Masem-20231207034500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dock_Mock-20231207200900-Masem-20231207034500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear-20231206234300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear-20231206234300"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Norman_Lear" title="Norman Lear">Norman Lear</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear-20231206234300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=88" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Norman Lear"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ad_Orientem-20231206234300-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 6 December 2023, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Norman_Lear" title="Norman Lear">Norman Lear</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ad_Orientem" title="User:Ad Orientem">Ad Orientem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ad_Orientem" title="User talk:Ad Orientem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ad_Orientem-20231206234300-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 6 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ad_Orientem-20231206234300-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ad_Orientem-20231206234300-ITN_recognition_for_Norman_Lear"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20231208061100"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21_2"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20231208061100"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!_2-20231208061100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=89" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Panini!-20231208061100-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/100px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/150px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png/200px-Editors_Barnstar_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Editor's Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">I was surprised to find you were the main contributor behind <i><a href="/wiki/Mandatory_Fun" title="Mandatory Fun">Mandatory Fun</a></i>. I've been using this article as a point of reference for my endeavors in writing about music, such as how to structure them and how to present the information. So thanks for that article! <a href="/wiki/User:Panini!" title="User:Panini!"><span style="color:#F40">Panini!</span></a> <span style="color:#F40">•</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panini!" title="User talk:Panini!">🥪</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Panini!-20231208061100-A_barnstar_for_you!_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:11, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Panini!-20231208061100-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Panini!-20231208061100-A_barnstar_for_you!_2"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="2023_in_video_games_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-2023_in_video_games_edit-20231209235300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-2023_in_video_games_edit-20231209235300"></span><a href="/wiki/2023_in_video_games" title="2023 in video games">2023 in video games</a> edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-2023_in_video_games_edit-20231209235300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=90" title="Edit section: 2023 in video games edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300-2023_in_video_games_edit"></span>Hi, Masem. You recently reverted one of my edits on the page <a href="/wiki/2023_in_video_games" title="2023 in video games">2023 in video games</a>. I added the <a href="/wiki/New_York_Game_Awards" title="New York Game Awards">New York Game Awards</a> to the sub-section "Major awards", and you removed it on the grounds that they weren't significant enough. However, the New York Game Awards have been included on every "20xx in video games" page since <a href="/wiki/2013_in_video_games" title="2013 in video games">2013</a>, and I see no reason why they should be excluded here. If you have no further argument, I'll soon be re-adding it. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:ThanatosApprentice" title="User:ThanatosApprentice">ThanatosApprentice</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThanatosApprentice" title="User talk:ThanatosApprentice">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300-2023_in_video_games_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:53, 9 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300-2023_in_video_games_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300-2023_in_video_games_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231210002800-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300"></span>I talked to the user that added those on the previous years (after the fact) and that we agreed that they shouldn't have been added, they just haven't been removed. the NY Critics awards are very minor relative to the 5 on there now. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231210002800-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 10 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231210002800-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231210002800-ThanatosApprentice-20231209235300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Forbes_Contributor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Forbes_Contributor-20231213175000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Forbes_Contributor-20231213175000"></span>Forbes Contributor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Forbes_Contributor-20231213175000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=91" title="Edit section: Forbes Contributor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Domedusa-20231213175000-Forbes_Contributor"></span>Hi, Masem. </p><p>You recently reverted my edit where I used Forbes Contributor as a source. Would it be acceptable to repost the edit citing the youtuber's video as a source, as I am talking about findings he claims on the topic, not ascribing any validity to them. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Domedusa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Domedusa (page does not exist)">Domedusa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Domedusa" title="User talk:Domedusa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Domedusa-20231213175000-Forbes_Contributor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Domedusa-20231213175000-Forbes_Contributor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Domedusa-20231213175000-Forbes_Contributor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231213201700-Domedusa-20231213175000"></span>Not unless the YouTube is considered an expert and a reliable source, which i don't think qualifies here. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231213201700-Domedusa-20231213175000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231213201700-Domedusa-20231213175000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231213201700-Domedusa-20231213175000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Domedusa-20231213202500-Masem-20231213201700"></span>Surely when discussing criticism of a topic, I can use a high-profile individual's criticism as a source for them criticising it? So long as I am not saying their criticism is correct. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Domedusa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Domedusa (page does not exist)">Domedusa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Domedusa" title="User talk:Domedusa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Domedusa-20231213202500-Masem-20231213201700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Domedusa-20231213202500-Masem-20231213201700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Domedusa-20231213202500-Masem-20231213201700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231213205100-Domedusa-20231213202500"></span>Certainly if the person was high profile, but this HOUNGOUNGAGNE doesn't seem to be a high profile individual. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231213205100-Domedusa-20231213202500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231213205100-Domedusa-20231213202500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231213205100-Domedusa-20231213202500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC-20231214201400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC-20231214201400"></span>Rock Band 3 Rewind DLC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC-20231214201400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=92" title="Edit section: Rock Band 3 Rewind DLC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7-20231214201400-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC"></span>Hey Masem. You recently reverted an edit I made last night on the Rock Band 3 Setlist page. I only added that one category on the table for the Rock Band 3 setlist because the export has been expired since 2020, and it helps newcomers who don't have the patience to sift through the list of downloadable content for the Rock Band series due to it having repeated entries and over 2000+ entries, especially since Rock Band's database on Rewind DLC has not been updated since 2020. It might not be necessary for people who already exported the setlist, but it is necessary for newcomers and latecomers who missed out on the export period, and want to see what songs are still available as DLC if they missed their chance with the export period or just got started on the series as of Rock Band 4. Would like to hear a reply on why you believe it is unnecessary. Thanks <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7" title="Special:Contributions/2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7">2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7-20231214201400-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7-20231214201400-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:647:8100:B7B0:30F9:1FCE:CDF1:2BD7-20231214201400-Rock_Band_3_Rewind_DLC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Brain_Age_primary_source" data-mw-thread-id="h-Brain_Age_primary_source-20231217002900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Brain_Age_primary_source-20231217002900"></span>Brain Age primary source<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Brain_Age_primary_source-20231217002900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=93" title="Edit section: Brain Age primary source"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900-Brain_Age_primary_source"></span>Hello! Could you please clarify <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1190273036">your reversion</a> of my edit on <a href="/wiki/Brain_Age:_Train_Your_Brain_in_Minutes_a_Day!" title="Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!">Brain Age</a>? Of course the source given was academic, but not secondary (at least, for the methodology and results of the study). Guidelines such as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SCHOLARSHIP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SCHOLARSHIP">WP:SCHOLARSHIP</a> advise "extreme caution" when citing primary sources, and to me it seems like directly citing a study that has (seemingly) not been discussed in any reliable secondary sources over the past decade is somewhat <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">undue</a>. Do you think my reasoning is off-base? ~<a href="/wiki/User:Bluecrystal004" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bluecrystal004"><span style="font-weight:bold;color:#ff3f3f">Bluecrystal004</span></a><sup> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bluecrystal004" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Bluecrystal004"><span style="color:#080">talk</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bluecrystal004" title="Special:Contributions/Bluecrystal004"><span style="color:#00f">contribs</span></a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900-Brain_Age_primary_source" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900-Brain_Age_primary_source"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900-Brain_Age_primary_source"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20231217004000-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900"></span>For that specific article, that article is secondary to the game of Brain Age, since it is discussing the impact of the game from a scientific study. Further, the inclusion is written in a very careful phrase to not imply the study is wholly inclusive or true. If we were talking an article about brain improvement, that article would then be primary to that topic, and we'd definitely want to see it discussed more in further scholarly articles to see it included. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20231217004000-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20231217004000-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20231217004000-Bluecrystal004-20231217002900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20231219024600"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20231219024600"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20231219024600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=94" title="Edit section: Happy Adminship Anniversary!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Herald-20231219024600-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238436933">.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 0;border-collapse:collapse;border:1px solid #a2a9b1;background-color:var(--background-color-neutral-subtle,#f8f9fa);box-sizing:border-box;color:var(--color-base,#202122)}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{border:2px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .ombox-delete{border:2px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .ombox-content{border:1px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .ombox-style{border:1px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .ombox-move{border:1px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .ombox-protection{border:2px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.9em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.9em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.9em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .ombox .mbox-invalid-type{text-align:center}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .ombox{margin:4px 10%}.mw-parser-output .ombox.mbox-small{clear:right;float:right;margin:4px 0 4px 1em;width:238px}}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output table.ombox img{max-width:none!important}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ombox-speedy{background-color:#310402}}</style><table class="box-Happy_Adminship plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation" style="border: 2px solid SlateBlue; background: linear-gradient(300deg, AliceBlue, Honeydew 30%, Honeydew 70%, AliceBlue);"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_Administrator.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Wikipedia globe and sysop mop" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/50px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/75px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Wikipedia_Administrator.svg/100px-Wikipedia_Administrator.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span></td><td class="mbox-text" style="padding: 0.75em; text-align:center;"><big><b>Happy adminship anniversary!</b></big><br/>Hi Masem! On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3AMasem">successful request for adminship</a>. Enjoy this special day! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Herald">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Herald-20231219024600-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Herald-20231219024600-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Herald-20231219024600-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f389.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Party popper emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_24_December_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023-20231224095800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023-20231224095800"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 24 December 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023-20231224095800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=95" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 24 December 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231224095800-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023"></span>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Special report">Did the Chinese Communist Party send astroturfers to sabotage a hacktivist's Wikipedia article?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/News and notes">The Italian Public Domain wars continue, Wikimedia RU set to dissolve, and a recap of WLM 2023</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/In the media">Consider the humble fork</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Discussion report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Discussion_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Discussion report">Arabic Wikipedia blackout; Wikimedians discuss SpongeBob, copyrights, and AI</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/In focus">Liquidation of Wikimedia RU</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Technology report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Technology report">Dark mode is coming</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Recent research">"LLMs Know More, Hallucinate Less" with Wikidata</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Gallery: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Gallery" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Gallery">A feast of holidays and carols</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Comix: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Comix" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Comix">Lollus lmaois 200C tincture</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Crossword: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Crossword" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Crossword">when the crossword is sus</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Traffic report">What's the big deal? I'm an animal!</a></li></ul> <ul><li>From the editor: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/From the editor">A piccy iz worth OVAR 9000!!!11oneone! wordz ^_^</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Apocrypha: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Apocrypha" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Apocrypha">Local editor discovered 1,380 lost subheadings in ancient Signpost scrolls. And what he found was shocking.</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/Humour">Guess the joke contest</a></li></ul> <ul><li>BJAODN: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-12-24/BJAODN" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-24/BJAODN">Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2023-12-24" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2023-12-24">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231224095800-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231224095800-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231224095800-The_Signpost:_24_December_2023"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Warcraft_revenue" data-mw-thread-id="h-Warcraft_revenue-20231224170200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Warcraft_revenue-20231224170200"></span>Warcraft revenue<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Warcraft_revenue-20231224170200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=96" title="Edit section: Warcraft revenue"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timur9008-20231224170200-Warcraft_revenue"></span>Hi! Thanks for adding Warcraft to the highest grossing franchise page but are sure the $17 billion video game revenue figure from <a href="/wiki/The_Motley_Fool" title="The Motley Fool">The Motley Fool</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/02/26/3-major-companies-behind-the-worlds-most-valuable.aspx">[2]</a> isn't just a case of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITOGENESIS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITOGENESIS">WP:CITOGENESIS</a>? They probably got the figure from the earlier version of the page which had the inflated figures. I think we should use this source <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.gamerevolution.com/originals/13510-world-of-warcraft-leads-industry-with-nearly-10-billion-in-revenue">[3]</a> since it almost predates the article itself. <a href="/wiki/User:Timur9008" title="User:Timur9008">Timur9008</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timur9008" title="User talk:Timur9008">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Timur9008-20231224170200-Warcraft_revenue" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timur9008-20231224170200-Warcraft_revenue"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timur9008-20231224170200-Warcraft_revenue"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Timur9008-20240102083200-Timur9008-20231224170200"></span>^ I went ahead and added this source instead <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160915093511/https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/12/technology/a-new-phase-for-world-of-warcrafts-lead-designer-his-own-start-up.html">[4]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Timur9008" title="User:Timur9008">Timur9008</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timur9008" title="User talk:Timur9008">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Timur9008-20240102083200-Timur9008-20231224170200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timur9008-20240102083200-Timur9008-20231224170200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timur9008-20240102083200-Timur9008-20231224170200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_10_January_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_10_January_2024-20240112124900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_10_January_2024-20240112124900"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 10 January 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_10_January_2024-20240112124900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=97" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 10 January 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240112124900-The_Signpost:_10_January_2024"></span>From the editor: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-01-10/From_the_editor" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-01-10/From the editor">NINETEEN MORE YEARS! 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If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Stephen-20240120035400-ITN_recognition_for_Smart_Lander_for_Investigating_Moon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-20240120035400-ITN_recognition_for_Smart_Lander_for_Investigating_Moon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-20240120035400-ITN_recognition_for_Smart_Lander_for_Investigating_Moon"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace-20240124182000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace-20240124182000"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:List of free Epic Games Store games (page does not exist)">List of free Epic Games Store games</a> moved to draftspace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace-20240124182000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=99" title="Edit section: List of free Epic Games Store games moved to draftspace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RoySmith-20240124182000-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace"></span>Thanks for your contributions to <a href="/w/index.php?title=Draft:List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Draft:List of free Epic Games Store games (page does not exist)">List of free Epic Games Store games</a>. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because <b>Undeletion requested at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2024_January_24" title="Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 January 24">Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 January 24</a>, with a plausible list of sources presented. Restoring and moving to draft as the original deleting admin.</b>. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while. </p><p>Please see more information at <a href="/wiki/Help:Unreviewed_new_page" title="Help:Unreviewed new page">Help:Unreviewed new page</a>. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. <a href="/wiki/User:RoySmith" title="User:RoySmith">RoySmith</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:RoySmith" title="User talk:RoySmith">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-RoySmith-20240124182000-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RoySmith-20240124182000-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RoySmith-20240124182000-List_of_free_Epic_Games_Store_games_moved_to_draftspace"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="D.I.C.E._Award_winners" data-mw-thread-id="h-D.I.C.E._Award_winners-20240124202400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-D.I.C.E._Award_winners-20240124202400"></span>D.I.C.E. Award winners<span data-mw-comment-end="h-D.I.C.E._Award_winners-20240124202400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=100" title="Edit section: D.I.C.E. Award winners"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400-D.I.C.E._Award_winners"></span>Hello, I am reaching out to you for to please reconsider the categories for winners of the <a href="/wiki/D.I.C.E._Awards" title="D.I.C.E. Awards">D.I.C.E. Awards</a>. I also like to address the following categories: <a href="/wiki/Category:Award-winning_video_games" title="Category:Award-winning video games">Category:Award-winning video games</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:BAFTA_winners_(video_games)" title="Category:BAFTA winners (video games)">Category:BAFTA winners (video games)</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Golden_Joystick_Award_winners" title="Category:Golden Joystick Award winners">Category:Golden Joystick Award winners</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Game_Developers_Choice_Award_winners" title="Category:Game Developers Choice Award winners">Category:Game Developers Choice Award winners</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:New_York_Game_Award_winners" title="Category:New York Game Award winners">Category:New York Game Award winners</a>. The British Academy Game Awards winners is the big I have to point out. Now I understand how some of them may be irrelevant, and I may have gotten carried away with creating categories for each category. I am hoping we can find a reasonable compromise. <a href="/wiki/User:MR.RockGamer17" title="User:MR.RockGamer17">MR.RockGamer17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MR.RockGamer17" title="User talk:MR.RockGamer17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400-D.I.C.E._Award_winners" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400-D.I.C.E._Award_winners"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400-D.I.C.E._Award_winners"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:MR.RockGamer17" title="User:MR.RockGamer17"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240125011000-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400"></span>MR.RockGamer17</a>, The issue with all those categories is that outside of GOTY, are they <i>defining</i>? Do people go, "Oh, this game was the winner of the DICE award for technical achievement?" And realistically, no, that doesn't happen. That's where the consensus on WT:VG fell at.<span id="Masem:1706145018907:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240125011000-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240125011000-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240125011000-MR.RockGamer17-20240124202400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400-Masem-20240125011000"></span>I am not disagreeing with you on that. I just don't understand why British Academy Game Award for Technical Achievement gets its own category for winners and the D.I.C.E. Award for Outstanding Technical Achievement can't. It seems like a double-standard to me. <a href="/wiki/User:MR.RockGamer17" title="User:MR.RockGamer17">MR.RockGamer17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MR.RockGamer17" title="User talk:MR.RockGamer17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400-Masem-20240125011000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400-Masem-20240125011000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400-Masem-20240125011000"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:MR.RockGamer17" title="User:MR.RockGamer17"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240125044600-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400"></span>MR.RockGamer17</a>, I don't think the BAFTA ones should get that either (save for GotY).<span id="Masem:1706158006936:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240125044600-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:46, 25 January 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240125044600-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240125044600-MR.RockGamer17-20240125041400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MR.RockGamer17-20240125045800-Masem-20240125044600"></span>So, are you going to put the winners' categories for "Debut Game", "Game Beyond Entertainment", "Game Design", "Multiplayer", and "Technical Achievement" up for deletion? Also, will you undelete the categories for "D.I.C.E. Award winners" and "D.I.C.E. 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Unless anyone else chimes in or those claims are substantiated, I'm inclined to disregard them. 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If an article does not meet WP:GNG, you don't have sources to base an article on. People who enjoy writing about a specific topic may create (and edit) their own preferred list of rules, but if an article does not meet WP:GNG it should still be deleted, no matter what the SNG says. <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Polygnotus-20240218162500-Masem-20240218161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240218162500-Masem-20240218161600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240218162500-Masem-20240218161600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240218162700-Masem-20240218161600"></span>I'll give an example, lets say we have a scholar who won a highly prestigious academic honor, but no reliable sources have covered it in any significant way (other than perhaps to list their name), then you can't write an article because there are no sources to base the article on (no matter what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)#Criteria" title="Wikipedia:Notability (academics)">Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)#Criteria</a> says). <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Polygnotus-20240218162700-Masem-20240218161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240218162700-Masem-20240218161600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240218162700-Masem-20240218161600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240218163100-Polygnotus-20240218162700"></span>I don't know where you're getting this, but this is how SNGs have been treated for years. You are not required to meet the GNG as long as an SNG is met, but we do want to make sure SNGs are agreed on by the community. The most recent change was at NSPORT, which is documented here <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Sports_notability" title="Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability">Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability</a>, which had a huge amount of participation outside sports-interested editors.<span id="Masem:1708273896430:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240218163100-Polygnotus-20240218162700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240218163100-Polygnotus-20240218162700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240218163100-Polygnotus-20240218162700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240218165600-Masem-20240218163100"></span>Don't you see how that does not make sense? If there is no significant coverage in reliable sources, how can I write an article about someone? <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:5P2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:5P2">WP:5P2</a> does not allow unreliable sources. Without making stuff up and without unreliable sources it should be impossible to write an article about someone who has not received significant coverage in reliable sources, right? <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Polygnotus-20240218165600-Masem-20240218163100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240218165600-Masem-20240218163100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240218165600-Masem-20240218163100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240218170200-Polygnotus-20240218165600"></span>I would really read the NSPORTS discussion I pointed to, as that SNG was specifically modified to deal with requiring at least one piece of significant coverage alongside one of the other criteria.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>NPROF is unique because it was made before we had a WP:N, and as such, has its own allowances that do not require it to meet the GNG in any way. Again, I would urge you to review the WT:N archives to see where there has been long discussion that a topic need only meet an SNG without having to meet the GNG to have an article, though this is still presumed notability and can be challenged at a later time. The talk archives cover this over and over multiple times.<span id="Masem:1708275776919:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240218170200-Polygnotus-20240218165600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240218170200-Polygnotus-20240218165600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240218170200-Polygnotus-20240218165600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20240218172800-Masem-20240218170200"></span>You are asking me to read a short novel about a topic I don't really care much about (I don't watch sports and when I sport the media does not report on it), and I doubt that reading it would help me. Can't you just reply to what I wrote instead? I understand that some people don't like WP:GNG because their favorite subject does not meet the criteria and that they have created SNGs and pretend that those overrule GNG. I can even imagine that the original goal of the SNGs might've been to list common outcomes of debates in order to save everyone time (per AGF). It is sad to see that groups of people who like sports act so unsportsmanlike. Allowing fancruft for certain hobbies but not others is not very egalitarian, right? <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Polygnotus-20240218172800-Masem-20240218170200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20240218172800-Masem-20240218170200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20240218172800-Masem-20240218170200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240218174500-Polygnotus-20240218172800"></span>Again, this is why something like NSPORTS was re-evaluated by a community RFC, so that the community as a whole agreed with the changes. <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I can't easily point to any single discussion that gets to the point, but you need to understand that the idea that topics may either meet the GNG or a community-approved SNG to be considered notable has been in place for years. And that one cannot just create an SNG to be used this way without going through a community RFC to affirm it is appropriate. There's been pages and pages of debate and RFCs on these concepts.<span id="Masem:1708278322016:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240218174500-Polygnotus-20240218172800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240218174500-Polygnotus-20240218172800"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240218174500-Polygnotus-20240218172800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs-20240229121700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs-20240229121700"></span>List of biggest box-office bombs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs-20240229121700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=108" title="Edit section: List of biggest box-office bombs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-85.159.196.157-20240229121700-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs"></span>I see you reverted this edit <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs&diff=prev&oldid=1210962779">[5]</a> saying "too soon". Actually, I don't believe they will ever manage to distribute it outside Italy (4 years have passed), so maybe it's not "too soon"... </p><p>They only recovered 1% of the expenses on that movie, and it wasn't a homemade production, they had international stars acting... so I believe it could be listed, or maybe mentioned outside the list. </p><p>Please reply here because my IP will likely change. </p><p>--<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.159.196.157" title="Special:Contributions/85.159.196.157">85.159.196.157</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:85.159.196.157&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:85.159.196.157 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-85.159.196.157-20240229121700-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-85.159.196.157-20240229121700-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-85.159.196.157-20240229121700-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240229130600-85.159.196.157-20240229121700"></span>Even if that is the final numbers, the value is also way too low to be included on that list, which has a minimum loss of around $95m to be included.<span id="Masem:1709212002107:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240229130600-85.159.196.157-20240229121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240229130600-85.159.196.157-20240229121700"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240229130600-85.159.196.157-20240229121700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_2_March_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_2_March_2024-20240302110200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_2_March_2024-20240302110200"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 2 March 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_2_March_2024-20240302110200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=109" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 2 March 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240302110200-The_Signpost:_2_March_2024"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/News and notes">Wikimedia enters US Supreme court hearings as "the dolphin inadvertently caught in the net"</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/Recent research">Images on Wikipedia "amplify gender bias"</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/In the media">The Scottish Parliament gets involved, a wikirace on live TV, and the Foundation's CTO goes on record</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Obituary: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/Obituary" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/Obituary">Vami_IV</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/Traffic report">Supervalentinefilmbowlday</a></li></ul> <ul><li>WikiCup report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-02/WikiCup_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-02/WikiCup report">High-scoring WikiCup first round comes to a close</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; 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On behalf of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Birthday_Committee" title="Wikipedia:Birthday Committee">Birthday Committee</a>, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Masem&dir=prev&limit=1">your first edit</a> and became a Wikipedian! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User:The Herald">The Herald (Benison)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Herald" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:The Herald">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Herald-20240305021100-Happy_First_Edit_Day!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Herald-20240305021100-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Herald-20240305021100-Happy_First_Edit_Day!"></span></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Twemoji2_1f389.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Party popper emoji" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/50px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/75px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Twemoji2_1f389.svg/100px-Twemoji2_1f389.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="512"/></a></span></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards-20240311155500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards-20240311155500"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/96th_Academy_Awards" title="96th Academy Awards">96th Academy Awards</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards-20240311155500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=111" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for 96th Academy Awards"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Smurrayinchester-20240311155500-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 11 March 2024, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/96th_Academy_Awards" title="96th Academy Awards">96th Academy Awards</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Smurrayinchester" title="User:Smurrayinchester">Smurrayinchester</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Smurrayinchester-20240311155500-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Smurrayinchester-20240311155500-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Smurrayinchester-20240311155500-ITN_recognition_for_96th_Academy_Awards"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing-20240312203900"><span id="Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts.2C_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing-20240312203900"></span>Sweet Baby Inc-article is full of pseudo-facts, Wiki-mods use one-sided sourcing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing-20240312203900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=112" title="Edit section: Sweet Baby Inc-article is full of pseudo-facts, Wiki-mods use one-sided sourcing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17-20240312203900-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing"></span>Hi, </p><p>I asked a Wikipedia-mod to direct me to a Wikipedia-admin, so here I am. The topic is the article about the currently ongoing situation with the consultant company "Sweet Baby Inc". </p><p>The currently published Wikipedia-article creates the illusion that SBI is a victim and its critics are harassers (and all the other worst things that I don't wanna spell out). In discussion with mods, it became clear that they're not willing to include important facts and information due to the given reason that social media posts and similar are not accepted as sources on Wikipedia. </p><p>So, there's two issues with that: For one, when the entire traditional news media has decided to one-sidedly support SBI, ignoring what's actually happening and what happened to begin with, and the side of critics can only point to the original tweets and such of SBI employees and CEOs (where stuff like "I want to erase all white leads from gaming"), then this naturally leads to one-sided Wikipedia-article that certainly tells a story, just not one based in reality. For two, even if there's absolutely no way to incorporate social media posts as a source (which I personally find weird in a day and age where social media is where official news is being reported), then shouldn't the entire article be taken down for the time being? If there are not enough sources to give a complete picture of the situation, then rather than misrepresenting the situation, Wikipedia should go for the "wait and see"-approach, shouldn't it? The result as of now is that the people defending SBI are using Wikipedia's authority to even strengthen their position; I don't think Wikipedia exists to work as someone's ammunition in a strongly contended debate. </p><p>I hope you can bring about some positive change to the situation, either allowing sources that give a full picture of the situation OR removing the article entirely until reputable sources decide to include everything. </p><p>For full disclosure, I'm a member of the Steam group and all it does is list games with SBI's involvement. Without any judgement on the Steam page. As for WHY people join, it's to oppose "forced" diversity. This is in contrast to "natural" diversity. So the people criticizing SBI are not against diversity per se, as the currently sourced articles claim, but is only against the amateurish inclusion of ideology in video games and other media, resulting in worse games and movies. A popular example is an npc that you meet right after leaving the space ship in the beginning of Mass Effect Andromeda and the first thing this character tells you, a total stranger, "btw I'm trans". This is "forced" diversity. It adds nothing, it only makes the game feel less immersive, like someone put that in just to force it down people's throats. An example of "natural" diversity would be Olivier from "Trails in the Sky", who is bisexual and constantly hits on both female and male characters, but it never feels forced, because it's befitting his character as an easy-going, charming bard. So again, we are FOR diversity, but against forced diversity based on ideology. And nothing about the group has to do with altright, racism, bigotry or any of the terrible claims they make. Yes, there's a lot of unhinged idiots flinging around insults, too, but that's what happens when one side basically controls the entire industry and for years has pushed big game publishers to abide by their "consultation". And really, any bigger group (the Steam group alone has over 200k followers now) has a sizeable number of idiots. So please update the SBI entry to make clear that there is no organized harassment against the company going on, that it's a wider anti-DEI movement with "anti-forced diversity driven by ideology" at its core. Thx <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17" title="Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17">2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17" title="User talk:2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17-20240312203900-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17-20240312203900-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2003:D8:8F3C:E000:B8F6:2724:3492:FC17-20240312203900-Sweet_Baby_Inc-article_is_full_of_pseudo-facts,_Wiki-mods_use_one-sided_sourcing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Introduction_to_contentious_topics" data-mw-thread-id="h-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-20240313003400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-20240313003400"></span>Introduction to contentious topics<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Introduction_to_contentious_topics-20240313003400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=113" title="Edit section: Introduction to contentious topics"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swatjester-20240313003400-Introduction_to_contentious_topics"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style="background-color: #E5F8FF;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Commons-emblem-notice.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/50px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/75px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Commons-emblem-notice.svg/100px-Commons-emblem-notice.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>You have recently edited a page related to <b>gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them</b>, a topic designated as <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AC/CT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AC/CT">contentious</a></b>. 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Thank you! </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><p> --<a href="/wiki/User:Moon_darker" title="User:Moon darker">Moon darker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moon_darker" title="User talk:Moon darker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Moon_darker-20240313062300-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moon_darker-20240313062300-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moon_darker-20240313062300-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_2"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC." data-mw-thread-id="h-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC.-20240318094700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC.-20240318094700"></span>Looking for mentor for FAC.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC.-20240318094700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=115" title="Edit section: Looking for mentor for FAC."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxime12346-20240318094700-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."></span>Greetings, </p><p>I am looking for a mentor to try to push the <a href="/wiki/Wii_Sports_Resort" title="Wii Sports Resort">Wii Sports Resort</a> article to FA status. Would you agree to help me ? <a href="/wiki/User:Maxime12346" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Maxime12346">Maxime12346</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxime12346" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Maxime12346">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Maxime12346-20240318094700-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxime12346-20240318094700-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxime12346-20240318094700-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxime12346-20240319082800-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."></span>Addendum : Please disregard my last inquiry, somee events will not allow to give the time required. <a href="/wiki/User:Maxime12346" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Maxime12346">Maxime12346</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxime12346" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Maxime12346">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Maxime12346-20240319082800-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxime12346-20240319082800-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxime12346-20240319082800-Looking_for_mentor_for_FAC."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki-20240321161600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki-20240321161600"></span>Regarding my reverted edit i did on the halflife game wiki<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki-20240321161600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=116" title="Edit section: Regarding my reverted edit i did on the halflife game wiki"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Totallynotmwa-20240321161600-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki"></span>You said i need a source i wanted to add the source but i couldnt because the visual editor didnt let me and the source editor is hard <a href="/wiki/User:Totallynotmwa" title="User:Totallynotmwa">Totallynotmwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Totallynotmwa" title="User talk:Totallynotmwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Totallynotmwa-20240321161600-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Totallynotmwa-20240321161600-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Totallynotmwa-20240321161600-Regarding_my_reverted_edit_i_did_on_the_halflife_game_wiki"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question-20240318232000"><span id="I.27m_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question-20240318232000"></span>I'm sorry but i have to correct something and ask a question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question-20240318232000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=117" title="Edit section: I'm sorry but i have to correct something and ask a question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://vault.fbi.gov/gamergate"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MrOllie-20240318232000-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"></span>https://vault.fbi.gov/gamergate</a> </p><p>if you're talkinga bout evidence out in the open. why don't you mention SPJ Airplay? Why not mention Deep Freeze? </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://reason.com/2015/08/18/bomb-threat-disrupts-spj-airplay-gamer/">https://reason.com/2015/08/18/bomb-threat-disrupts-spj-airplay-gamer/</a> </p><p>Why is it you ascribe a lot of this to "right wing" conspiricy theories when what's out in the open is different from what you assert? Let's say you're right. at what point do we disbelieve people saying the sky is blue because of how left or right leaning they are? </p><p><br/> " </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:N" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:N">WP:N</a> does not apply to sections, only whole articles. During GamerGate pt1 we saw a lot of this notion that if one 'side' of a dispute attacked journalism, that means Wikipedia could then not use journalists as a source. Since then, the same attacks have become extremely common in all kinds of political discourse (think of people who say '<a href="/wiki/Lamestream_media" class="mw-redirect" title="Lamestream media">Lamestream media</a>'). But buying into that notion is untenable, one cannot silence critical sources just by making attacks on any journalist who writes something one disapproves of. <a href="/wiki/User:MrOllie" class="mw-redirect" title="User:MrOllie">MrOllie</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MrOllie" title="User talk:MrOllie">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MrOllie-20240318232000-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MrOllie-20240318232000-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MrOllie-20240318232000-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MisteOsoTruth-20240326111100-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"></span>You are making an assumption that journalists are colliding with SBI here, but we first off don't work that way, and more importantly it is likely journalists, previously burned on "it's about ethics in video game journalism" from GG, are making a stance again from another vector out of the 4chan/8chan/Kiwi Farms venues that fester far right concepts, implicitly making SBI the side they trust to start with. And there is little I can see in both reliable and unreliable sources that suggest the larger picture is much different than what the RSes are saying. The counter narrative, that SBI was specifically formed to force diversity into games, has been shown clearly to be quotes taken out of context and what SBI actually does verified independently by game devs. It's really hard to find any type of appropriate lining here for the opposite side since unlike GG, all of what's been covered is out in the open.</dd></dl> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:MisteOsoTruth&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:MisteOsoTruth (page does not exist)">MisteOsoTruth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MisteOsoTruth" title="User talk:MisteOsoTruth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MisteOsoTruth-20240326111100-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MisteOsoTruth-20240326111100-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MisteOsoTruth-20240326111100-I'm_sorry_but_i_have_to_correct_something_and_ask_a_question"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE"" data-mw-thread-id="h-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE"-20240326225500"><span id="SBI-talk_page_still_protected.2C_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_.22FINAL_PURGE.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE"-20240326225500"></span>SBI-talk page still protected, meanwhile BBC calls for "FINAL PURGE"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE"-20240326225500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=118" title="Edit section: SBI-talk page still protected, meanwhile BBC calls for "FINAL PURGE""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679-20240326225500-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE""></span>Hey Masem, </p><p>surely you're still trying your hardest to protect the SBI-article from displaying key information like who started with the harassment and such. That's sarcasm, ofc, because we both know you and the other admins have gone through no effort to change the article to actually reflect reality. </p><p>Maybe this latest development from today is at long last worthy of being added to the article: A BBC-journalist calling for a "final purge" against gamers in the context of the SBI-debate. The following website exists since 2014 and makes an effort to report only on facts, so maybe this is source enough: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/03/26/bbc-gaming-presenter-jules-hardy-calls-for-current-sweet-baby-inc-discourse-to-end-with-a-final-purge-of-ideological-opponents-from-the-medium/">https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/03/26/bbc-gaming-presenter-jules-hardy-calls-for-current-sweet-baby-inc-discourse-to-end-with-a-final-purge-of-ideological-opponents-from-the-medium/</a> </p><p>If this is yet again dismissed as "not reliable" and such, I guess I'll give up. Then I have to accept that Wikipedia exists in a different reality from the real one. Which is a bummer, as I've always trusted Wikipedia, but here I know it's in the wrong. Whatever. Pls take a look at the source, and if you dislike it, try to find one yourself. The call for a "final purge" by a BBC-journalist is too serious to be ignored. Have a good day. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679" title="Special:Contributions/2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679">2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679-20240326225500-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679-20240326225500-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2003:D8:8F17:F000:2A30:6B9F:C8DD:9679-20240326225500-SBI-talk_page_still_protected,_meanwhile_BBC_calls_for_"FINAL_PURGE""></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes-20240329134600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes-20240329134600"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Eli_Noyes" title="Eli Noyes">Eli Noyes</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes-20240329134600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=119" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Eli Noyes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PFHLai-20240329134600-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 29 March 2024, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Eli_Noyes" title="Eli Noyes">Eli Noyes</a></b></i>, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:PFHLai" title="User:PFHLai">PFHLai</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PFHLai" title="User talk:PFHLai">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-PFHLai-20240329134600-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PFHLai-20240329134600-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PFHLai-20240329134600-ITN_recognition_for_Eli_Noyes"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_29_March_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024-20240329224000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024-20240329224000"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 29 March 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024-20240329224000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=120" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 29 March 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240329224000-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024"></span>Technology report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Technology_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Technology report">Millions of readers still seeing broken pages as "temporary" disabling of graph extension nears its second year</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Interview: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Interview" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Interview">Interview on Wikimedia Foundation fundraising and finance strategy</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Special report">19-page PDF accuses Wikipedia of bias against Israel, suggests editors be forced to reveal their real names, and demands a new feature allowing people to view the history of Wikipedia articles</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Op-Ed: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Op-Ed" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Op-Ed">Wikipedia in the age of personality-driven knowledge</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Recent research">"Newcomer Homepage" feature mostly fails to boost new editors</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/News and notes">Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee Charter ratified</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/In the media">"For me it’s the autism": AARoad editors on the fork more traveled</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Traffic report">He rules over everything, on the land called planet Dune</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Humour">Letters from the editors</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Comix: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-03-29/Comix" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-03-29/Comix">Layout issue</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-03-29" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-03-29">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240329224000-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240329224000-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240329224000-The_Signpost:_29_March_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion-20240401114600"><span id="Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate.3F_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion-20240401114600"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/Where_is_Kate%3F" class="mw-redirect" title="Where is Kate?">Where is Kate?</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion-20240401114600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=121" title="Edit section: Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401114600-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/wiki/Where_is_Kate%3F" class="mw-redirect" title="Where is Kate?">Where is Kate?</a> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Where_is_Kate%3F_(3rd_nomination)" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination)">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination)</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p> Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:IgnatiusofLondon" title="User:IgnatiusofLondon">IgnatiusofLondon</a> (<span style="font-size:85%;">he/him</span> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:IgnatiusofLondon#top" title="User talk:IgnatiusofLondon">☎️</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401114600-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:46, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401114600-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IgnatiusofLondon-20240401114600-Nomination_of_Where_is_Kate?_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edelman_Family_Foundation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edelman_Family_Foundation-20240401180900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edelman_Family_Foundation-20240401180900"></span>Edelman Family Foundation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edelman_Family_Foundation-20240401180900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=122" title="Edit section: Edelman Family Foundation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Llama_Tierna-20240401180900-Edelman_Family_Foundation"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a> </p><p>I am reaching out to you because of your previous participation in one of the discussions regarding the reliability and neutrality of <i>HuffPost/Pink News/ProPublica</i> as sources used on Wikipedia. </p><p>Currently, there is an ongoing issue with the <a href="/wiki/Joseph_Edelman#Edelman_Family_Foundation" title="Joseph Edelman">Edelman Family Foundation section</a> in the <a href="/wiki/Joseph_Edelman" title="Joseph Edelman">Joseph Edelman</a> Wikipedia article. The section appears to be biased and lacks a balanced representation of the foundation's activities, as it primarily focuses on a single controversial donation while neglecting to mention the organization's numerous other significant contributions to various causes. </p><p>I would like to invite you to participate in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Suspected_bias_on_Joseph_Edelman's_page" title="Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard">discussion on the BLP Noticeboard</a> to address the concerns surrounding the section's neutrality and explore ways to improve its content. <a href="/wiki/User:Llama_Tierna" title="User:Llama Tierna">Llama Tierna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Llama_Tierna" title="User talk:Llama Tierna">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Llama_Tierna-20240401180900-Edelman_Family_Foundation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Llama_Tierna-20240401180900-Edelman_Family_Foundation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Llama_Tierna-20240401180900-Edelman_Family_Foundation"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You" data-mw-thread-id="h-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You-20240402132700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You-20240402132700"></span>NEO: The World Ends with You<span data-mw-comment-end="h-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You-20240402132700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=123" title="Edit section: NEO: The World Ends with You"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-StarStorm10-20240402132700-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You"></span>I put (stylized as <i><b>NEO: The World Ends with You</b></i>) is that okay? as that is the official way to stylize the name? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:StarStorm10&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:StarStorm10 (page does not exist)">StarStorm10</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:StarStorm10" title="User talk:StarStorm10">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-StarStorm10-20240402132700-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-StarStorm10-20240402132700-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-StarStorm10-20240402132700-NEO:_The_World_Ends_with_You"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2-20240403060200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2-20240403060200"></span>List of biggest box-office bombs<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2-20240403060200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=124" title="Edit section: List of biggest box-office bombs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoneIn60-20240403060200-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2"></span>I think we're getting trolled on that talk page. Instead of responding, I would start removing general questions like <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs&diff=prev&oldid=1216978414">this one</a> as disruptive spam that wastes the community's time. This IP in particular has posted at least 8 other similar threads since August 2023. There are a few other repeat offenders! My 2¢ --<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoneIn60" title="User talk:GoneIn60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GoneIn60-20240403060200-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoneIn60-20240403060200-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoneIn60-20240403060200-List_of_biggest_box-office_bombs_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Still_interested?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Still_interested?-20240409172400"><span id="Still_interested.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Still_interested?-20240409172400"></span>Still interested?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Still_interested?-20240409172400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=125" title="Edit section: Still interested?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Horse_Eye's_Back-20240409172400-Still_interested?"></span>Are you still interested on working on a stand-alone page for the British Royal family and the media? <a href="/wiki/User:Horse_Eye%27s_Back" title="User:Horse Eye's Back">Horse Eye's Back</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Horse_Eye%27s_Back" title="User talk:Horse Eye's Back">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Horse_Eye's_Back-20240409172400-Still_interested?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Horse_Eye's_Back-20240409172400-Still_interested?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Horse_Eye's_Back-20240409172400-Still_interested?"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs-20240409202400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs-20240409202400"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Peter_Higgs" title="Peter Higgs">Peter Higgs</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs-20240409202400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=126" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Peter Higgs"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ingenuity-20240409202400-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 9 April 2024, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Peter_Higgs" title="Peter Higgs">Peter Higgs</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. — <a href="/wiki/User:Ingenuity" title="User:Ingenuity">Ingenuity</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ingenuity#top" title="User talk:Ingenuity">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ingenuity" title="Special:Contributions/Ingenuity">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ingenuity-20240409202400-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ingenuity-20240409202400-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ingenuity-20240409202400-ITN_recognition_for_Peter_Higgs"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="KlimaSeniorinnen" data-mw-thread-id="h-KlimaSeniorinnen-20240417121900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-KlimaSeniorinnen-20240417121900"></span>KlimaSeniorinnen<span data-mw-comment-end="h-KlimaSeniorinnen-20240417121900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=127" title="Edit section: KlimaSeniorinnen"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417121900-KlimaSeniorinnen"></span>Please don't undo the changes I've made on this page. It's a lot of work to make the page legally accurate, and cut out the fluff, if you read. If you have specific suggestions, please put them on the talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:BarrySpinno" title="User:BarrySpinno">BarrySpinno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BarrySpinno" title="User talk:BarrySpinno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BarrySpinno-20240417121900-KlimaSeniorinnen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417121900-KlimaSeniorinnen"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BarrySpinno-20240417121900-KlimaSeniorinnen"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:BarrySpinno" title="User:BarrySpinno"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240417122100-BarrySpinno-20240417121900"></span>BarrySpinno</a>, the problem is that we are not supposed to be legal experts per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a>, thus we have to use what third-parties say about the case rather than our interpretation of the case. Further, we never quote in any depth of the full decision - that could either be a copyright problem if there is copyright involved, or otherwise it is better just to place the entire decision at Wikisource and link it there. We then would need to use third-party sources to identify what are the key outcomes of those decisions.<span id="Masem:1713356478966:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240417122100-BarrySpinno-20240417121900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240417122100-BarrySpinno-20240417121900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240417122100-BarrySpinno-20240417121900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417123000-Masem-20240417122100"></span>You simply needed to ask for proper references - I've put them in from the press release. Please don't delete the facts and judgment section again.</dd> <dd>There is no copyright issue on a section of a judgment - that's fair use. In any case, the ECHR is entirely open source, it's a public court. This has been established for a long time on Wikipedia. Hope that helps. <a href="/wiki/User:BarrySpinno" title="User:BarrySpinno">BarrySpinno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BarrySpinno" title="User talk:BarrySpinno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BarrySpinno-20240417123000-Masem-20240417122100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417123000-Masem-20240417122100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BarrySpinno-20240417123000-Masem-20240417122100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240417123400-BarrySpinno-20240417123000"></span>We should also be avoiding press releases from the involved parties since those can distort facts to whichever party it is.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Even if the ruling is not copyrighed, its not appropriate to include that much text in articles. We summarize sources, and per NOR, requires the use of third-parties to hit the highlights for us.<span id="Masem:1713357242429:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240417123400-BarrySpinno-20240417123000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240417123400-BarrySpinno-20240417123000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240417123400-BarrySpinno-20240417123000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417124000-Masem-20240417123400"></span>Your behaviour is not impressive, or mature. Please do something else. <a href="/wiki/User:BarrySpinno" title="User:BarrySpinno">BarrySpinno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BarrySpinno" title="User talk:BarrySpinno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-BarrySpinno-20240417124000-Masem-20240417123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BarrySpinno-20240417124000-Masem-20240417123400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BarrySpinno-20240417124000-Masem-20240417123400"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:BarrySpinno" title="User:BarrySpinno"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240417151400-BarrySpinno-20240417124000"></span>BarrySpinno</a>, no personal attacks. I'm also following policies on how we are to edit these type of articles.<span id="Masem:1713366867716:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240417151400-BarrySpinno-20240417124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240417151400-BarrySpinno-20240417124000"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240417151400-BarrySpinno-20240417124000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_post" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_post-20240418011400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_post-20240418011400"></span>ITN post<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_post-20240418011400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=128" title="Edit section: ITN post"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Schwede66-20240418011400-ITN_post"></span>I saw this morning (my time) that you had raised an issue with me posting an <a href="/wiki/O._J._Simpson" title="O. J. Simpson">O. J. Simpson</a> blurb to ITN. I now have a chance to respond but the page was archived an hour ago. It's not that I was ignoring you but simply didn't know that you had raised an issue. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN/C" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN/C">WP:ITN/C</a> is not on my watchlist (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:DYK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:DYK">WT:DYK</a> is and that brings my watchlist beyond what's easily manageable) but you obviously can't know that. For future reference, if you'd like to discuss an ITN admin action, please give me a ping. </p><p>The way I deal with ITN is that every now and then, I go to the page and look from the bottom up whether there's something that requires action. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66"><span style="color: #000000;">Schwede</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66"><span style="color: #FF4500;">66</span></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Schwede66-20240418011400-ITN_post" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Schwede66-20240418011400-ITN_post"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Schwede66-20240418011400-ITN_post"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)-20240419133100"><span id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_.28disambiguation.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)-20240419133100"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Social_game_(disambiguation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Social game (disambiguation) (page does not exist)">Social game (disambiguation)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)-20240419133100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=129" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Social game (disambiguation)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20240419133100-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1224211176">.mw-parser-output .quotebox{background-color:#F9F9F9;border:1px solid #aaa;box-sizing:border-box;padding:10px;font-size:88%;max-width:100%}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatleft{margin:.5em 1.4em .8em 0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatright{margin:.5em 0 .8em 1.4em}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.centered{overflow:hidden;position:relative;margin:.5em auto .8em auto}.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatleft span,.mw-parser-output .quotebox.floatright span{font-style:inherit}.mw-parser-output .quotebox>blockquote{margin:0;padding:0;border-left:0;font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-title{text-align:center;font-size:110%;font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote:last-child>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote.quoted:before{font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:bold;font-size:large;color:gray;content:" “ ";vertical-align:-45%;line-height:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox-quote.quoted:after{font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-weight:bold;font-size:large;color:gray;content:" ” ";line-height:0}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .left-aligned{text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .right-aligned{text-align:right}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .center-aligned{text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .quotebox .quote-title,.mw-parser-output .quotebox .quotebox-quote{display:block}.mw-parser-output .quotebox cite{display:block;font-style:normal}@media screen and (max-width:640px){.mw-parser-output .quotebox{width:100%!important;margin:0 0 .8em!important;float:none!important}}</style><div class="quotebox pullquote floatright" style="width:20%; ;"> <blockquote class="quotebox-quote left-aligned" style=""> <p>If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Your_first_article" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Your first article">the guide to writing your first article</a>.</p><p>You may want to consider using the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard" title="Wikipedia:Article wizard">Article Wizard</a> to help you create articles.</p> </blockquote> </div> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Social_game_(disambiguation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Social game (disambiguation) (page does not exist)">Social game (disambiguation)</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#G14" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>, because it is a disambiguation page which either </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><ul><li>disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is_there_a_primary_topic?" title="Wikipedia:Disambiguation">primary topic</a>);</li> <li>disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or</li> <li>is an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Orphan" title="Wikipedia:Orphan">orphaned</a> redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.</li></ul></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p>Under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#Articles" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">criteria for speedy deletion</a>, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOSDAB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOSDAB">see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information</a>. </p><p>If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may <b>contest the nomination</b> by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Social_game_(disambiguation)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Social game (disambiguation) (page does not exist)">visiting the page</a> and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies" title="Wikipedia:List of policies">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a>. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&page=Social+game+%28disambiguation%29">deleting administrator</a></span>. <a href="/wiki/User:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User:Shhhnotsoloud">Shhhnotsoloud</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Shhhnotsoloud" title="User talk:Shhhnotsoloud">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Shhhnotsoloud-20240419133100-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20240419133100-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Shhhnotsoloud-20240419133100-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Social_game_(disambiguation)"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion" data-mw-thread-id="h-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion-20240420225900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion-20240420225900"></span>On the Console Wars section that I added that explained the Super FX portion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion-20240420225900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=130" title="Edit section: On the Console Wars section that I added that explained the Super FX portion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion"></span>If I just change the wording of the Super FX section, and just do the regular sourcing (I was going to originally, but the page for the sales of Star Fox on Argonaut Game's page got deleted, so I just used the Wikipedia article listing the best-selling SNES games to cover that), can it come back? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User:The Miracle Girls">The Miracle Girls</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User talk:The Miracle Girls">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900-On_the_Console_Wars_section_that_I_added_that_explained_the_Super_FX_portion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900"></span>If anyone else wants to tell me if I can, please do. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User:The Miracle Girls">The Miracle Girls</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User talk:The Miracle Girls">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200-The_Miracle_Girls-20240420225900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240425035700-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200"></span>You need to make sure to have sources that frame the SuperFX as part of the console war. That said, I have found a source and will be adding that<span id="Masem:1714017420785:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240425035700-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240425035700-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240425035700-The_Miracle_Girls-20240424175200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240425110100-Masem-20240425035700"></span>Ok, thanks then Masem! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User:The Miracle Girls">The Miracle Girls</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Miracle_Girls" title="User talk:The Miracle Girls">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240425110100-Masem-20240425035700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240425110100-Masem-20240425035700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Miracle_Girls-20240425110100-Masem-20240425035700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reverted_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reverted_edit-20240423165200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reverted_edit-20240423165200"></span>Reverted edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reverted_edit-20240423165200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=131" title="Edit section: Reverted edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loyalty-heart-20240423165200-Reverted_edit"></span>Hello Masem, I'd like you to know that there's no hard feelings on my end. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Loyalty-heart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Loyalty-heart (page does not exist)">Loyalty-heart</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loyalty-heart&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Loyalty-heart (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Loyalty-heart-20240423165200-Reverted_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loyalty-heart-20240423165200-Reverted_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loyalty-heart-20240423165200-Reverted_edit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN-20240425060300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN-20240425060300"></span>ITN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN-20240425060300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=132" title="Edit section: ITN"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20240425060300-ITN"></span>Hi there Masem. I'm taking this offline, as my intent is not to single you out at ITN. We all know it needs improvement. However, your ITN-related comments sometimes conflate what's codified at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN">WP:ITN</a>, versus your personal preferences for ITN, and the reality of what the community actually has decided to post at ITN. Particularly, fame and popularity fall under ITN's <i>sui generis</i> allowance. I assume you disagree with past postings like Betty White, Carrie Fisher and now OJ, but the fact is that an uninvolved admin decided there was consensus to post them. </p><p> My past replies to you were probably around the nuance that your comments sometimes come off that !voters and posters are somehow violating the existing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNRDBLURB">WP:ITNRDBLURB</a>, as opposed to framing it as an actual improvement you are seeking for ITN. I'd like to see "<i>sui generis</i>" give way to more objective criteria, but I haven't found a way to achieve consensus for it. Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROPOSAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROPOSAL">WP:PROPOSAL</a>: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style></p><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Most commonly, a new policy or guideline documents existing practices, rather than proposing a change to what experienced editors already choose to do.</p></blockquote><p> People seem to like their "free pass" to blurb "their" RD. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Bagumba-20240425060300-ITN" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20240425060300-ITN"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20240425060300-ITN"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_25_April_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_25_April_2024-20240425114800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_25_April_2024-20240425114800"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 25 April 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_25_April_2024-20240425114800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=133" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 25 April 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240425114800-The_Signpost:_25_April_2024"></span>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/In the media">Censorship and wikiwashing looming over RuWiki, edit wars over San Francisco politics, and another wikirace on live TV</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/News and notes">A sigh of relief for open access as Italy makes a slight U-turn on their cultural heritage reproduction law</a></li></ul> <ul><li>WikiConference report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/WikiConference_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/WikiConference report">WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap</a></li></ul> <ul><li>WikiProject report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/WikiProject_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/WikiProject report">WikiProject Newspapers (Not WP:NOTNEWS)</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/Recent research">New survey of over 100,000 Wikipedia users</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-04-25/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-04-25/Traffic report">O.J., cricket and a three body problem</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; 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United States</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Medicare" class="mw-disambig" title="Medicare">Medicare</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-DPL_bot-20240428055800-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20240428055800-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_28"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20240428055800-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_April_28"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Switch_Successor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Switch_Successor-20240508002800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Switch_Successor-20240508002800"></span>Switch Successor<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Switch_Successor-20240508002800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=135" title="Edit section: Switch Successor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Galefuun-20240508002800-Switch_Successor"></span>The successor to the Nintendo Switch was officially announced by Nintendo themselves and trusted media sources are posting about it. Why wait for the console to be unveiled with its official name and physical design when we have concrete proof that Nintendo even has a ninth-generation console on the horizon. <a href="/wiki/User:Galefuun" title="User:Galefuun">Galefuun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galefuun" title="User talk:Galefuun">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Galefuun-20240508002800-Switch_Successor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Galefuun-20240508002800-Switch_Successor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Galefuun-20240508002800-Switch_Successor"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ferret-20240508003300-Galefuun-20240508002800"></span>What do we know beyond "they are working on one", Galefuun? See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTAL">WP:CRYSTAL</a>, bullet 5. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ferret" title="User:Ferret">ferret</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ferret" title="User talk:Ferret">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ferret-20240508003300-Galefuun-20240508002800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ferret-20240508003300-Galefuun-20240508002800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ferret-20240508003300-Galefuun-20240508002800"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240508003600-Galefuun-20240508002800"></span>How do we know it will be in Gen9?</dd> <dd>We do talk about this news on the Switch page, where it makes sense and not CRYSTAL. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240508003600-Galefuun-20240508002800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240508003600-Galefuun-20240508002800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240508003600-Galefuun-20240508002800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Galefuun-20240508004300-Masem-20240508003600"></span>We know it will be Gen 9 because the launch of the PS5 and Xbox Series X signaled the start. The idea that Nintendo's new console will be another gen 8 console is redundant especially since the 8th generation already ended. <a href="/wiki/User:Galefuun" title="User:Galefuun">Galefuun</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Galefuun" title="User talk:Galefuun">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Galefuun-20240508004300-Masem-20240508003600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Galefuun-20240508004300-Masem-20240508003600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Galefuun-20240508004300-Masem-20240508003600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240508004600-Galefuun-20240508004300"></span>That's not how it works. We have to wait to see if the media sources consider this to compete with those consoles, or if its a wholly new competitive market. I suspect it will be Gen9, but that is against <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#CRYSTAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOT">WP:NOT#CRYSTAL</a>.<span id="Masem:1715129175605:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240508004600-Galefuun-20240508004300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240508004600-Galefuun-20240508004300"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240508004600-Galefuun-20240508004300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Quick_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Quick_question-20240512140400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Quick_question-20240512140400"></span>Quick question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Quick_question-20240512140400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=136" title="Edit section: Quick question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140400-Quick_question"></span>Hey I noticed you reverted my post on the administrators noticeboard. I'm just wondering what exactly the reason for it was. I am realizing that I did forget to notify the editors on their talk page, so if that is the reason then my bad. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm">Gaismagorm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Gaismagorm-20240512140400-Quick_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140400-Quick_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140400-Quick_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240512140700-Gaismagorm-20240512140400"></span>Was unintentional, likely I misclicked on my watchlist. Restored. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240512140700-Gaismagorm-20240512140400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240512140700-Gaismagorm-20240512140400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240512140700-Gaismagorm-20240512140400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140800-Masem-20240512140700"></span>ah ok no problem, have a great day! <a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm">Gaismagorm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Gaismagorm-20240512140800-Masem-20240512140700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140800-Masem-20240512140700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20240512140800-Masem-20240512140700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512141500-Gaismagorm-20240512140800"></span>I also this time made sure to actually notify the editors. <a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm">Gaismagorm</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Gaismagorm-20240512141500-Gaismagorm-20240512140800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20240512141500-Gaismagorm-20240512140800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20240512141500-Gaismagorm-20240512140800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_16_May_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_16_May_2024-20240516105800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_16_May_2024-20240516105800"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 16 May 2024<span 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title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-05-16/Comix">Generations</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-05-16/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-05-16/Traffic report">Crawl out through the fallout, baby</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-05-16" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-05-16">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Digital_Services_Act-20240520091100"></span><a href="/wiki/Digital_Services_Act" title="Digital Services Act">Digital Services Act</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Digital_Services_Act-20240520091100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=138" title="Edit section: Digital Services Act"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20240520091100-Digital_Services_Act"></span>In a recent discussion, you <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=prev&oldid=1224160849n">asked</a> me to, "<i>Please point to the algorithm that has been created in software by the WMF that suggests other pages to look at...</i>". The addictive qualities of Wikipedia predate the WMF as its <a href="/wiki/Wiki_rabbit_hole" title="Wiki rabbit hole">rabbit hole nature</a> seems to result mainly from <a href="/wiki/H:LINK" class="mw-redirect" title="H:LINK">links</a>. But the WMF has a clear goal of making the site more attractive and retentive. For example, see its <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:GTF" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:GTF">growth team</a> which explicitly "<i>aims to increase the retention of new editors</i>". Its growth features "<i>are now the default on-boarding experience for new users, with 100% of them encountering this feature after they register a new account</i>" and "<i>results confirm that the Growth features, in particular newcomer tasks, lead newcomers to edit more and lead newcomers to stay on the wiki for longer</i>". </p><p>After I posted in that discussion, I took a short break to check that I could do so without difficulty. We note that Masem has not taken a break in editing for over five years and so is in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Longest_active_user_editing_streaks" title="Wikipedia:Database reports/Longest active user editing streaks">Top 20</a>. See <a href="/wiki/Internet_addiction_disorder" title="Internet addiction disorder">Internet addiction disorder</a> for lots of links... </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Andrew_Davidson" title="User:Andrew Davidson">Andrew</a>🐉(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrew_Davidson" title="User talk:Andrew Davidson">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Andrew_Davidson-20240520091100-Digital_Services_Act" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrew_Davidson-20240520091100-Digital_Services_Act"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrew_Davidson-20240520091100-Digital_Services_Act"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Team_Fortress_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te-20240520131800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te-20240520131800"></span>Adding information about the trading platform for trading items from the game Team Fortress 2<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te-20240520131800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=139" title="Edit section: Adding information about the trading platform for trading items from the game Team Fortress 2"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kamillaksg-20240520131800-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te"></span>Hello! How are you? </p><p>I would like to know if it is possible to add in article about the Team Fortress 2 game additional information. As you know, in this game there are tradable items that are traded on a special trading platform https://waxpeer.com. So, can we mention this marketplace in the article of this game so that readers are aware of where else they can buy and sell items from the game they are interested in? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Kamillaksg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Kamillaksg (page does not exist)">Kamillaksg</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kamillaksg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kamillaksg (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Kamillaksg-20240520131800-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kamillaksg-20240520131800-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kamillaksg-20240520131800-Adding_information_about_the_trading_platform_for_trading_items_from_the_game_Te"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240520132400-Kamillaksg-20240520131800"></span>That requires a reliable third party source to include, as otherwise it would be promotional.<span id="Masem:1716211487004:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240520132400-Kamillaksg-20240520131800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240520132400-Kamillaksg-20240520131800"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240520132400-Kamillaksg-20240520131800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery" data-mw-thread-id="h-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery-20240526162700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery-20240526162700"></span>Creation of Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery-20240526162700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=140" title="Edit section: Creation of Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery"></span>I'm very sorry, that it was not yet appropriate to create the article. But I have still saved the draft, so will it be okay to create the article once the start of the production has been announced? Thanks for your help! <a href="/wiki/User:Samuel_Adrian_Antz" title="User:Samuel Adrian Antz">Samuel Adrian Antz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Samuel_Adrian_Antz" title="User talk:Samuel Adrian Antz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700-Creation_of_Wake_Up_Dead_Man:_A_Knives_Out_Mystery"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240526163400-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700"></span>I've only undo the creation so the version you made is in the history of that page, so once production is announced, you can undo my edit (assuming its the latest) or restore your version when that happens. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240526163400-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240526163400-Samuel_Adrian_Antz-20240526162700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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schoolboy typing "balls" in infobox</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Concept: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-06-08/Concept" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-06-08/Concept">Palimpsestuous</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-06-08" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-06-08">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240608122600-The_Signpost:_8_June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240608122600-The_Signpost:_8_June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240608122600-The_Signpost:_8_June_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Look_before_you_revert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Look_before_you_revert-20240608211400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Look_before_you_revert-20240608211400"></span>Look before you revert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Look_before_you_revert-20240608211400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=142" title="Edit section: Look before you revert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211400-Look_before_you_revert"></span>Dude. I know that it's tempting to just revert ppl's edits without looking at what they say, but at least read what they say and check sources like the Fortnite twitter posts first before you do so ok <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HiGuys69420&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HiGuys69420 (page does not exist)">HiGuys69420</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiGuys69420" title="User talk:HiGuys69420">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-HiGuys69420-20240608211400-Look_before_you_revert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211400-Look_before_you_revert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211400-Look_before_you_revert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ferret-20240608211500-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HiGuys69420&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HiGuys69420 (page does not exist)">HiGuys69420</a> And source things before you revert and improperly warn someone. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BURDEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BURDEN">WP:BURDEN</a> to source content lies with the editor adding it. This is something that can lead to a block. Please source your edits. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ferret" title="User:Ferret">ferret</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ferret" title="User talk:Ferret">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Ferret-20240608211500-HiGuys69420-20240608211400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ferret-20240608211500-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ferret-20240608211500-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211900-Ferret-20240608211500"></span>oh i will. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:HiGuys69420&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:HiGuys69420 (page does not exist)">HiGuys69420</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HiGuys69420" title="User talk:HiGuys69420">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-HiGuys69420-20240608211900-Ferret-20240608211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211900-Ferret-20240608211500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HiGuys69420-20240608211900-Ferret-20240608211500"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240608233300-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span>If it were the official Fortnite twitter, that would be one thing, but a random user's tweet is not sufficient here. I know that there have been lots of rumors and leaks that Metallica is the next artist for Festival, but we need proper sourcing for that.<span id="Masem:1717889602896:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240608233300-HiGuys69420-20240608211400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240608233300-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240608233300-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240609004900-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span>I mistook this for being about Metallica, but for this one, the tweet you used had no explicit naming of that YouTuber. If the phrase is some inside joke with that person, that is nowhere close to sufficient for us to use as a reference - it has to be explicit.<span id="Masem:1717894185640:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240609004900-HiGuys69420-20240608211400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240609004900-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240609004900-HiGuys69420-20240608211400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="9th_gen_consoles_prices" data-mw-thread-id="h-9th_gen_consoles_prices-20240610040300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-9th_gen_consoles_prices-20240610040300"></span>9th gen consoles prices<span data-mw-comment-end="h-9th_gen_consoles_prices-20240610040300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=143" title="Edit section: 9th gen consoles prices"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JivanZa-20240610040300-9th_gen_consoles_prices"></span>You reverted my edits on the <a href="/wiki/Ninth_generation_of_video_game_consoles" title="Ninth generation of video game consoles">Ninth generation of video game consoles</a> page with an edit summary of "<i>Unsupported changes, we stick with launch prices, not reductions later in their lives</i>". That edit summary makes no sense to me as there is both an "Launch prices" and "Current prices" section on the template, and I only edited the "Current prices" section so that it is up to date like it should be. I also had added the price of the 1TB Xbox Series S and edited the "Storage" section as Xbox Series S has two different storage size options. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:JivanZa&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:JivanZa (page does not exist)">Jivan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JivanZa" title="User talk:JivanZa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-JivanZa-20240610040300-9th_gen_consoles_prices" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JivanZa-20240610040300-9th_gen_consoles_prices"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JivanZa-20240610040300-9th_gen_consoles_prices"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240610041700-JivanZa-20240610040300"></span>I checked again and realized that I did undo a good edit, so I have reverted my undo of your additions such that they are back in the table.<span id="Masem:1717993026356:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240610041700-JivanZa-20240610040300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 10 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240610041700-JivanZa-20240610040300"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240610041700-JivanZa-20240610040300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable-20240611074700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable-20240611074700"></span>Good article reassessment for <a href="/wiki/The_Stanley_Parable" title="The Stanley Parable">The Stanley Parable</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable-20240611074700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=144" title="Edit section: Good article reassessment for The Stanley Parable"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/The_Stanley_Parable" title="The Stanley Parable"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240611074700-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable"></span>The Stanley Parable</a> has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment/The_Stanley_Parable/1" title="Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/The Stanley Parable/1">reassessment page</a>. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User:Kung Fu Man">Kung Fu Man</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kung_Fu_Man" title="User talk:Kung Fu Man">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240611074700-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240611074700-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kung_Fu_Man-20240611074700-Good_article_reassessment_for_The_Stanley_Parable"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="FA_mentorship" data-mw-thread-id="h-FA_mentorship-20240612104800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FA_mentorship-20240612104800"></span>FA mentorship<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FA_mentorship-20240612104800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=145" title="Edit section: FA mentorship"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DanganMachin-20240612104800-FA_mentorship"></span>I am looking for a mentor for my first Featured article and was wondering if you could fill that role. I already have worked on the article and promoted it to Good Article status. Here is the article in question : <a href="/wiki/Fusajiro_Yamauchi" title="Fusajiro Yamauchi">Fusajiro Yamauchi</a> <a href="/wiki/User:DanganMachin" title="User:DanganMachin">DanganMachin</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanganMachin" title="User talk:DanganMachin">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-DanganMachin-20240612104800-FA_mentorship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:48, 12 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DanganMachin-20240612104800-FA_mentorship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DanganMachin-20240612104800-FA_mentorship"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_tables" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t-20240614182500"><span id="Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums.2FAlbum_article_style_advice.23.22Release_history.22_tables"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t-20240614182500"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_tables" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums/Album article style advice">Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release history" tables</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t-20240614182500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=146" title="Edit section: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release history" tables"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-183.171.122.125-20240614182500-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t"></span>Hey @<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">Masem</a>. If you have time, your comments would be appreciated. Regards. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/183.171.122.125" title="Special:Contributions/183.171.122.125">183.171.122.125</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:183.171.122.125&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:183.171.122.125 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-183.171.122.125-20240614182500-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-183.171.122.125-20240614182500-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-183.171.122.125-20240614182500-Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice#"Release_history"_t"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Successor_console_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Successor_console_section-20240618170400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Successor_console_section-20240618170400"></span>Successor console section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Successor_console_section-20240618170400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=147" title="Edit section: Successor console section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400-Successor_console_section"></span>I don't see a successor console section on the article. I'm on mobile though so that might be why ― <a href="/wiki/User:Blaze_Wolf" title="User:Blaze Wolf"><b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaze_Wolf" title="User talk:Blaze Wolf"><sup>Talk</sup></a><sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze__wolf</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400-Successor_console_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400-Successor_console_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400-Successor_console_section"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618171000-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400"></span>Nevermind I found it. It was buried in the hardware section ― <a href="/wiki/User:Blaze_Wolf" title="User:Blaze Wolf"><b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blaze_Wolf" title="User talk:Blaze Wolf"><sup>Talk</sup></a><sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">blaze__wolf</sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618171000-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618171000-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blaze_Wolf-20240618171000-Blaze_Wolf-20240618170400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Stonehenge" data-mw-thread-id="h-Stonehenge-20240620142500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Stonehenge-20240620142500"></span>Stonehenge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Stonehenge-20240620142500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=148" title="Edit section: Stonehenge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240620142500-Stonehenge"></span>...and will undoubtedly be here for thousands more. Rusty, stand over there :) <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><span style="color:red">——Serial Number 54129</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Serial_Number_54129-20240620142500-Stonehenge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 20 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240620142500-Stonehenge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240620142500-Stonehenge"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion-20240624150300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion-20240624150300"></span>Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion-20240624150300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=149" title="Edit section: Notice of No Original Research Noticeboard discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D-20240624150300-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard">Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D">2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D-20240624150300-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D-20240624150300-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:1210:6C6C:AD00:1112:5B18:F185:3D6D-20240624150300-Notice_of_No_Original_Research_Noticeboard_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3-20240625200400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3-20240625200400"></span>Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3-20240625200400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=150" title="Edit section: Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonathan_f1-20240625200400-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Peacedove.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/60px-Peacedove.svg.png" decoding="async" width="60" height="61" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/90px-Peacedove.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Peacedove.svg/120px-Peacedove.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="714" data-file-height="729"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard">Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard</a> regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. 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Thank you! </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div><p>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jonathan_f1&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jonathan f1 (page does not exist)">Jonathan f1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_f1" title="User talk:Jonathan f1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Jonathan_f1-20240625200400-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonathan_f1-20240625200400-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonathan_f1-20240625200400-Notice_of_Dispute_resolution_noticeboard_discussion_3"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_2-20240701181500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_2-20240701181500"></span>ITN<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_2-20240701181500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=151" title="Edit section: ITN"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IntoThinAir-20240701181500-ITN_2"></span>You should probably already be aware that I think ITNC has a significant and unfair bias against posting nominations about events or stories from the United States. Since I know you have much more ITNC experience and knowledge than I do, I wanted to know if you also see a pervasive reluctance to post nominations about things happening in the United States when, if they happened in another country, the likelihood of posting would probably be much higher. <a href="/wiki/User:IntoThinAir" title="User:IntoThinAir">IntoThinAir</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IntoThinAir" title="User talk:IntoThinAir">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-IntoThinAir-20240701181500-ITN_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IntoThinAir-20240701181500-ITN_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IntoThinAir-20240701181500-ITN_2"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_4_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024-20240704133900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024-20240704133900"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 4 July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024-20240704133900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=152" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 4 July 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240704133900-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/News and notes">WMF board elections and fundraising updates</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Special report">Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification vote underway, new Council may surpass power of Board</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/In focus">How the Russian Wikipedia keeps it clean despite having just a couple dozen administrators</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Discussion report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Discussion_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Discussion report">Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/In the media">War and information in war and politics</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Sister projects: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Sister_projects" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Sister projects">On editing Wikisource</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Obituary: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Obituary" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Obituary">Hanif Al Husaini, Salazarov, Hyacinth, and PirjanovNurlan</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Opinion">Etika: a Pop Culture Champion</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Gallery: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Gallery" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Gallery">Spokane Willy's photos</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Op-Ed: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Op-Ed" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Op-Ed">Why you should not vote in the 2024 WMF BoT elections</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Crossword: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Crossword" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Crossword">On a day of independence, beat crosswords into crossploughshares</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Humour">A joke</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Cobwebs: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Cobwebs" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Cobwebs">Counting to a billion — manuscripts don't burn</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Recent research">Is Wikipedia Politically Biased? Perhaps</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-04/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-04/Traffic report">Talking about you and me, and the games people play</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-07-04" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-07-04">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240704133900-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240704133900-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240704133900-The_Signpost:_4_July_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Removing_maintenance_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Removing_maintenance_templates-20240704204200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Removing_maintenance_templates-20240704204200"></span>Removing maintenance templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Removing_maintenance_templates-20240704204200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=153" title="Edit section: Removing maintenance templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240704204200-Removing_maintenance_templates"></span>I don't want to spam you on this, but please don't remove the maintenance templates. Your edits are not addressing the concerns on the talk page. You are a long time editor, so we I don't want to template you with this, but this is standard stuff. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrzejbanas" title="User:Andrzejbanas">Andrzejbanas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrzejbanas" title="User talk:Andrzejbanas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Andrzejbanas-20240704204200-Removing_maintenance_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240704204200-Removing_maintenance_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrzejbanas-20240704204200-Removing_maintenance_templates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_message_from_Sjones23" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_message_from_Sjones23-20240705042800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_message_from_Sjones23-20240705042800"></span>New message from Sjones23<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_message_from_Sjones23-20240705042800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=154" title="Edit section: New message from Sjones23"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjones23-20240705042800-New_message_from_Sjones23"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/25px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/38px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/50px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Ren_%26_Stimpy_Show#Creators" title="Talk:The Ren & Stimpy Show">Talk:The Ren & Stimpy Show § Creators</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23" title="User:Sjones23">Lord Sjones23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sjones23" title="User talk:Sjones23">talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Sjones23/Wikipedia_contributions" title="User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions">contributions</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sjones23-20240705042800-New_message_from_Sjones23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sjones23-20240705042800-New_message_from_Sjones23"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sjones23-20240705042800-New_message_from_Sjones23"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_women_in_video_game_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits-20240706021700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits-20240706021700"></span>List of women in video game edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits-20240706021700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=155" title="Edit section: List of women in video game edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-74.57.134.61-20240706021700-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits"></span>You have undone all my edits, therefore making a collective effort at collecting all names of women in video games impossible. I will Check for the name formats, but will re-enter the alphabetical categories. If you can't improve the format yourself, let others do it. Also, adding 'notable' again is purely subjective and has no place in Wikipedia. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/74.57.134.61" title="Special:Contributions/74.57.134.61">74.57.134.61</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:74.57.134.61&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:74.57.134.61 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-74.57.134.61-20240706021700-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-74.57.134.61-20240706021700-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-74.57.134.61-20240706021700-List_of_women_in_video_game_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240706041100-74.57.134.61-20240706021700"></span>We can't list every women in video games, as we need sourcing for each entry, and there's thousands of them. Instead, like we do with school alumni lists, we restrict the list to those that are notable - those recognized in third-party sources as woman with a reasonable impact in the field.<span id="Masem:1720239091027:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240706041100-74.57.134.61-20240706021700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240706041100-74.57.134.61-20240706021700"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240706041100-74.57.134.61-20240706021700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question-20240706200300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question-20240706200300"></span>List of women in video games - question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question-20240706200300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=156" title="Edit section: List of women in video games - question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Loguenn-20240706200300-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question"></span>Hello, </p><p>I would like to concentrate all the reference descriptions out of the text, at the bottom of the page, for clarity. What is the best way to extract them? Thank you! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Loguenn&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Loguenn (page does not exist)">Loguenn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Loguenn" title="User talk:Loguenn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Loguenn-20240706200300-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Loguenn-20240706200300-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Loguenn-20240706200300-List_of_women_in_video_games_-_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240706201600-Loguenn-20240706200300"></span>As I said in the edit summary, you need to achieve consensus on the article talk page to change the reference format per <a href="/wiki/MOS:CITEVAR" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:CITEVAR">MOS:CITEVAR</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240706201600-Loguenn-20240706200300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240706201600-Loguenn-20240706200300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240706201600-Loguenn-20240706200300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_CCFF7" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_CCFF7-20240716034700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_CCFF7-20240716034700"></span>About CCFF7<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_CCFF7-20240716034700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=157" title="Edit section: About CCFF7"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-174.219.127.31-20240716034700-About_CCFF7"></span>Sorry for messing the article up. I was wondering if it would be okay to keep the formatting of Reunion's name (Crisis Core –Final Fantasy VII– Reunion) without using all caps, or if that would break another rule I'm unaware of. </p><p><br/> Thanks! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.219.127.31" title="Special:Contributions/174.219.127.31">174.219.127.31</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:174.219.127.31&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:174.219.127.31 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-174.219.127.31-20240716034700-About_CCFF7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-174.219.127.31-20240716034700-About_CCFF7"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-174.219.127.31-20240716034700-About_CCFF7"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240716040600-174.219.127.31-20240716034700"></span>We typically use the common name of a game used in reliable sources, ignoring special formatting, particularly when it deviates from the rest of the series. There's nothing special about why Square Enix used dashes to separate the parts of the title over colons, and most sources seem to ignore them. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240716040600-174.219.127.31-20240716034700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240716040600-174.219.127.31-20240716034700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240716040600-174.219.127.31-20240716034700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-174.219.127.31-20240716040800-Masem-20240716040600"></span>Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.219.127.31" title="Special:Contributions/174.219.127.31">174.219.127.31</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:174.219.127.31&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:174.219.127.31 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-174.219.127.31-20240716040800-Masem-20240716040600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-174.219.127.31-20240716040800-Masem-20240716040600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-174.219.127.31-20240716040800-Masem-20240716040600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets"-20240717061700"><span id="Non-free_use_in_.22List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets"-20240717061700"></span>Non-free use in "List of Magic: The Gathering sets"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets"-20240717061700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=158" title="Edit section: Non-free use in "List of Magic: The Gathering sets""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20240717061700-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets""></span>Hi Masem, What do you think about the non-free use of some of the set symbols being used in the table in <a href="/wiki/List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets#Base/core_set_editions" title="List of Magic: The Gathering sets">List of Magic: The Gathering sets#Base/core set editions</a>? It looks as if many if not all of individual "Set" entries may at one time been stand-alone articles, but now redirect to <a href="/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_core_sets,_1993%E2%80%932007" title="Magic: The Gathering core sets, 1993–2007">Magic: The Gathering core sets, 1993–2007</a>. A few of the symbols were uploaded to Commons, but there's still a fair number of non-free ones. It's also unclear why <a href="/wiki/File:The_Common_version_of_the_symbol_used_to_identify_cards_released_as_part_of_the_Limited_Edition_Alpha_set_for_the_trading_card_game_Magic_the_Gathering.svg" title="File:The Common version of the symbol used to identify cards released as part of the Limited Edition Alpha set for the trading card game Magic the Gathering.svg"> File:The Common version of the symbol used to identify cards released as part of the Limited Edition Alpha set for the trading card game Magic the Gathering.svg</a> needs to be non-free when it's basically the same as <a href="/wiki/File:Eighth_Edition_-_Common_Set_Symbol.svg" title="File:Eighth Edition - Common Set Symbol.svg">File:Eighth Edition - Common Set Symbol.svg</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Marchjuly-20240717061700-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20240717061700-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20240717061700-Non-free_use_in_"List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240717115900-Marchjuly-20240717061700"></span>All non free from that list must be removed per NFCLISTS, they fail NFCC#8. That specific one should likely be made free as being under TOO.<span id="Masem:1721217574575:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240717115900-Marchjuly-20240717061700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240717115900-Marchjuly-20240717061700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240717115900-Marchjuly-20240717061700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Marchjuly-20240718011200-Masem-20240717115900"></span>Thanks for taking a look. I'll start a discussion about those files at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FFD">WP:FFD</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Marchjuly-20240718011200-Masem-20240717115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20240718011200-Masem-20240717115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Marchjuly-20240718011200-Masem-20240717115900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny..." data-mw-thread-id="h-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny...-20240717190100"><span id="I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem.27s_closed-minded_tyranny..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny...-20240717190100"></span>I am growing sick of Masem's closed-minded tyranny...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny...-20240717190100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=159" title="Edit section: I am growing sick of Masem's closed-minded tyranny..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny..."></span>Greetings Masem, </p><p>See? We can actually communicate before taking actions against each other, this is what democracy is all about and since Wikipedia is a free open collective base of knowledge and not your private library, your closed-minded tyranny is very unwelcomed here and I don't care that you are an administrator and I am a newbie here because the difference between you and me is that I am reasonable and open to dialogues as opposite to you who mercilessly and of your own accord destroy without a second thought the work of others who volunteer to contribute to, I remind you, a <b>free open collective</b> base of knowledge and <b>not</b> your private library therefore you don't get to decide what is worth keeping and what doesn't satisfy you and only you all by yourself without any dialogue <b>beforehand</b> and I can see right here that I am not the first to complain about you as you have been accumulating complains which should drive you to introspect and question your self-righteousness if you <b>actually</b> cared about doing the right thing... </p><p>I was researching First Person Shooter games' history and since Wikipedia is the main source of collective knowledge, I obviously mainly used it for my personal knowledge however I was disappointed to see that the article about FPS games' history is the bare minimum and lacks a lot of details which justify why a game contributed to the evolution of the genre, it ignores many innovative games and is even chronologically chaotically written since the games are introduced <b>after</b> games which were released <b>after</b> them, meaning that the games are not even presented in chronological order, which is a confusing mess to read and this is classified as a "good article", why does this make me think that <b>you</b> wrote it yourself and <b>you</b> classified it as a "good article" all by yourself? 😏 </p><p>Anyway, since I care, I volunteered to improve this for the collective benefit of everyone who will read it and learn from it just as I intended to before it disappointed me and I spent HOURS of my time to reorganize it chronologically and since many games were released the same years, just knowing only their year of release is not enough to accurately relate them to each other which is why I went out of my way to check every game's page to know their exact date of release in order to properly organize them chronologically and I even wrote the exact dates for each game in the article then I expanded the article considerably making it far more useful to learn FPS games' history than it barely is currently and I was proud of my contributions and driven to keep going until I eventually was too exhausted to keep going and then I published my WIP and I resumed it the day after a good night's sleep, that is, until a Firefox crash occurred and mercilessly annihilated A-L-L- -O-F- -M-Y- H-O-U-R-S- -O-F- -W-O-R-K in a mere instant without a second thought (yeah, just like you 😡), which traumatized me and depressed me for a few days (I didn't sleep well since then because I can't stop thinking about all of my wasted work) before I eventually managed to motivate myself to redo everything again but this time I publish my WIP bit by bit because I have been dreading another unwelcomed crash which would mercilessly waste my hours of work again since a collective resource as useful as Wikipedia still didn't even implement auto-saving of WIP yet which baffles me yet again because other, less useful, websites already did, then guess what happened? No, not again a Firefox crash, Masem happened and you are not better than a crash since you just as mercilessly waste the work of other people without any consideration nor respect for them because you are a tyrant who is not enough open-minded to be suitable as an administrator for a <b>free open collective</b> resource since you don't even reach out to open dialogue before you press a red button to nuke the work of other people if you feel like it. </p><p>The first time you sabotaged my work, you merely claimed that "very little of this is sourced" so I undid your undoing and I justified my action stating that I actually linked everything I wrote about to their respective Wikipedia pages since Wikipedia is my main source of knowledge to begin with then I resumed my WIP and I spent HOURS on it today until I published it to save my work from a possible crash (I told you it traumatized me) then what happened? Wikipedia couldn't publish my work because YOU had undid my PREVIOUS work WHILE I was busy continuing it where I last left it which caused a conflict making it impossible to publish my changes and literally WASTED ALL OF MY WORK ONCE AGAIN!!! 🤬 </p><p>And this is the last time that you waste my valuable time that I volunteer to contribute to collective knowledge because if you do it one more time without opening dialogue with me to request changes instead of nuking everything, then I will petition for you to be removed from Wikipedia's board of administrators for the motive that you are not enough open-minded to be in charge of a free open collective resource since you take decisions all by yourself without opening dialogue before taking action, and from all of the complaints that you have been accumulating, it wouldn't be hard to find people who want to release Wikipedia from your closed-minded tyranny, I am ready to bet on it, are you? </p><p>I will try again because there is no way I will accept that so much of time, energy and work was all for nothing because of a single person who decided so. I request that you keep in mind that this is a work in progress on which I am actively working on and therefore I will publish it unfinished bit by bit because it takes too much time, energy and motivation to complete it at once and requires to be done progressively in steps and even if it is a WIP, it will still be better than the "good article" that it currently is whereas it is the bare minimum which lacks of everything and is disorganized, now wouldn't it? Now if you do have reasonable issues with my work, then please open dialogue with me to let me know what you think I should improve <b>before</b> you decide to waste all of my work in a mere instant and continue your day without any consideration for the day that you just made me waste, now <b>this</b> is a reasonable request, isn't it? </p><p>Actually, come to think of it, your reactions are not only tyrannical but they are even utterly illogical and inefficient since you request changes <b>after</b> you deleted everything, how are people supposed to improve their contributions then since there is nothing left to improve because you already deleted their work <b>before</b> you claim your issue with it? 🤔 <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Maxime_Martyr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Maxime Martyr (page does not exist)">Maxime Martyr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxime_Martyr" title="User talk:Maxime Martyr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny..."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100-I_am_growing_sick_of_Masem's_closed-minded_tyranny..."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240717202200-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100"></span>You work is still there, it's in the article history.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>The problem is that you have added material without any reluable sources, which is required under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>. If you working on it in steps then do each step with the addition of sources and then publish it, rather than try to make one massive change to the article.<span id="Masem:1721247771280:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240717202200-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240717202200-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240717202200-Maxime_Martyr-20240717190100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400-Masem-20240717202200"></span>Even the work that Wikipedia couldn't publish because you had undid my previous work as I was busy continuing it which caused a conflict was saved in the article's history even it it was never published? 🤔</dd> <dd>Sigh... I just checked hoping that you were right and you are not, as I thought, unpublished work is lost forever unless it is remade, just as the Firefox crash annihilated a day spent of working on it, and all of the work that I had redone today is also lost until remade from scratch because you edited the page at the same time as I was myself editing it to continue my work, and you made me waste a day of my life again... 😩</dd> <dd>That's what you claimed the first time that you wasted my work whereas I did take care to link everything I wrote about to their respective Wikipedia pages since they are my source of knowledge to begin with and you replied that "I need external reliable sources" as if Wikipedia's pages themselves were not reliable sources then why bother with them at all? 🤔</dd> <dd>Moreover, isn't it redundant to re-quote every Wikipedia's page's sources into an article which already links to each of them individually? 🤔</dd> <dd>I mean, if you need sources outside of Wikipedia then you can just follow each link to the respective Wikipedia's pages which do provide the external sources that you require since they treat about each specific topic more in depth whereas the FPS games' history that I am editing merely sums up some historically relevant details from each relevant specific page and therefore re-quoting each page's sources is actually redundant as anyone who wants to check the knowledge's reliability can simply follow the links to each specific page which do provide their sources already which is why I didn't bother to re-quote every page's sources into the article which merely sums them up into a collective chronology for a global picture instead of isolated close-ups as it would be redundant and a waste of energy and time since each specific page <b>already</b> provides their respective sources and I did take care to link everything I wrote about to each their specific page for more details on each topic.</dd> <dd>Anyway, if you have a reasonable issue with someone's contribution then please open dialogue with them to discuss what needs to be improved and give them a chance to edit quickly <b>before</b> rushing any action.</dd> <dd>And to prevent any further depressing tragedy of losing work because of an edit happening at the same time as another one is already going on and causing a conflict preventing to publish which wastes everything, it shouldn't be possible to edit while an edit is already going on, Wikipedia should lock out any editing ability while an editing is already in progress, when you undid my previous work while I was busy continuing it, Wikipedia should have prevented you doing so and tell you "Sorry but no can do because this page is actually currently being edited already and any editing happening at the same time will cause a conflict therefore please wait for the current editing in progress to be published before you can edit the page yourself, thank you for your comprehension.".</dd> <dd>Wikipedia doesn't auto-save work in progress to save it from any potential disruption, it doesn't save it from any conflicting editing at the same time either, I can see that Wikipedia's infrastructure itself needs as much improvements as its knowledges... 😅 <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Maxime_Martyr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Maxime Martyr (page does not exist)">Maxime Martyr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxime_Martyr" title="User talk:Maxime Martyr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400-Masem-20240717202200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400-Masem-20240717202200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400-Masem-20240717202200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240717221000-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400"></span>Yes, each article is considered stand alone so even if there is a source on a different linked page, that source still must included. I am sorry you lost all that work but it is far better to edit in small chunks rather than one major swath for precisely that we don't have edit locks on articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240717221000-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240717221000-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240717221000-Maxime_Martyr-20240717213400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000-Masem-20240717221000"></span>Aren't Wikipedia pages good enough as sources? 🤔 <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Maxime_Martyr&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Maxime Martyr (page does not exist)">Maxime Martyr</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Maxime_Martyr" title="User talk:Maxime Martyr">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000-Masem-20240717221000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000-Masem-20240717221000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000-Masem-20240717221000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240718042300-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000"></span>No, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source">Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source</a><span id="Masem:1721276616638:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240718042300-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240718042300-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240718042300-Maxime_Martyr-20240718010000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_22_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093100"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 22 July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024-20240722093100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=160" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 22 July 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093100-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"></span>Discussion report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/Discussion_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/Discussion report">Internet users flock to Wikipedia to debate its image policy over Trump raised-fist photo</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-07-22/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-07-22/News and notes">Wikimedia community votes to ratify Movement Charter; 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font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-07-22" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-07-22">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093100-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093100-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240722093100-The_Signpost:_22_July_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Video_Game_History" data-mw-thread-id="h-Video_Game_History-20240723173400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Video_Game_History-20240723173400"></span>Video Game History<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Video_Game_History-20240723173400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=161" title="Edit section: Video Game History"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400-Video_Game_History"></span>Hi Masem, I re-checked my edit and read your response <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_video_games&veaction=editsource">here</a>. I was removing content that was established on the talk page of <i>Adventure</i> as being out of date. I did not as you suggested state that <i>Pitfall!</i> was the first of anything you described, and was simply wikilinking it. I appreciate your quick reactions to potential vandalism, but please respect that I was removing material that we've both established as being out of date, not anything you implied. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrzejbanas" title="User:Andrzejbanas">Andrzejbanas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrzejbanas" title="User talk:Andrzejbanas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400-Video_Game_History" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400-Video_Game_History"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400-Video_Game_History"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240723181600-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400"></span>I was mistaken in my summary, yes, but your removal of material calling out of date, when we are talking about sources already 20 years past the release of the game and talking about how modern takes on what the origins of genre is makes zero sense. Nothing has changed in the last ten years or so, in that Adventure is still considered one of the first if not the first action adventure game, only that we can use more academic sources to source that. That didn't require any removal but simply source replacement.<span id="Masem:1721758567454:User_talkFTTCLNMasem" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240723181600-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240723181600-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240723181600-Andrzejbanas-20240723173400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723183000-Masem-20240723181600"></span>No you are right, I was going to make a follow-up edit, but you've already done the job so thanks for that. No hard feelings I hope. <a href="/wiki/User:Andrzejbanas" title="User:Andrzejbanas">Andrzejbanas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Andrzejbanas" title="User talk:Andrzejbanas">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Andrzejbanas-20240723183000-Masem-20240723181600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723183000-Masem-20240723181600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Andrzejbanas-20240723183000-Masem-20240723181600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fortnite_Battle_Royale" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fortnite_Battle_Royale-20240725144400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fortnite_Battle_Royale-20240725144400"></span>Fortnite Battle Royale<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fortnite_Battle_Royale-20240725144400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=162" title="Edit section: Fortnite Battle Royale"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400-Fortnite_Battle_Royale"></span>Hey I saw you reverted my edits on the Fortnite Battle Royale page. I kind of disagree with fully reverting it and not manually doing it because the information reverted is factually incorrect and was pertaining to the <a href="/wiki/Fortnite_Festival" title="Fortnite Festival">Fortnite Festival</a> game mode and not the <a href="/wiki/Fortnite_Battle_Royale" title="Fortnite Battle Royale">Fortnite Battle Royale</a> game mode. </p><p>I think that if you look at the references you'd agree that it may be be important to clarify when the live events took place, and I based my formatting off of the Travis Scott paragraph just above the Metallica part. </p><p>Please take a look at it and let me know what you think. I'm very open to discussion and I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:HYTEN_CREW" title="User:HYTEN CREW">HYTEN CREW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HYTEN_CREW" title="User talk:HYTEN CREW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400-Fortnite_Battle_Royale" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:44, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400-Fortnite_Battle_Royale"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400-Fortnite_Battle_Royale"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240725145800-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400"></span>They are rerunning the Metallica concert event in August, so the reverted version is correct. It is not talking about the Metallica Festival pass. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240725145800-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240725145800-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240725145800-HYTEN_CREW-20240725144400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725150900-Masem-20240725145800"></span>Ah, I see. News circa 3 hours ago. Dates on August 2nd and 5th. I think these new dates and a reference (as soon as announced in a publication or cite outside of the game) should be added to the article but let me know what you think. <a href="/wiki/User:HYTEN_CREW" title="User:HYTEN CREW">HYTEN CREW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HYTEN_CREW" title="User talk:HYTEN CREW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725150900-Masem-20240725145800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725150900-Masem-20240725145800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HYTEN_CREW-20240725150900-Masem-20240725145800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)-20240805173300"><span id="Danny_Cohen_.28television_executive.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)-20240805173300"></span>Danny Cohen (television executive)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)-20240805173300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=163" title="Edit section: Danny Cohen (television executive)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C_at_Access-20240805173300-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)"></span>Hi Masem, pleased to meet you. I noticed that you are listed as a member of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TV">WP:TV</a> and thought that perhaps you would not mind taking a look at an edit request I posted for <a href="/wiki/Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)" class="mw-redirect" title="Danny Cohen (television executive)">Danny Cohen</a>, who previously was the Director of <a href="/wiki/BBC_Television" title="BBC Television">BBC Television</a>, and is now the President of <a href="/wiki/Access_Industries" title="Access Industries">Access Entertainment</a>. The request can be found at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)#Infobox,_BBC_Three,_and_Personal_life" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)">Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)#Infobox, BBC Three, and Personal life</a>. Thank you for your help. <a href="/wiki/User:C_at_Access" title="User:C at Access">C at Access</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C_at_Access&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C at Access (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-C_at_Access-20240805173300-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C_at_Access-20240805173300-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C_at_Access-20240805173300-Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C_at_Access-20240820133200-C_at_Access-20240805173300"></span>Hi Masem. Thanks for implementing my edit request for Danny Cohen. I added two small requests when I thanked you at: <a href="/wiki/Talk:Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)#Infobox,_BBC_Three,_and_Personal_life" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)">Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)#Infobox, BBC Three, and Personal life</a>. It would be great if you could take a look and implement those two edits. Thanks again, <a href="/wiki/User:C_at_Access" title="User:C at Access">C at Access</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C_at_Access&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C at Access (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-C_at_Access-20240820133200-C_at_Access-20240805173300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C_at_Access-20240820133200-C_at_Access-20240805173300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C_at_Access-20240820133200-C_at_Access-20240805173300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_14_August_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224800"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 14 August 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024-20240814224800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=164" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 14 August 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224800-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"></span>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In the media">Portland pol profile paid for from public purse</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Recent research">STORM: AI agents role-play as "Wikipedia editors" and "experts" to create Wikipedia-like articles, a more sophisticated effort than previous auto-generation systems</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In focus: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/In_focus" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In focus">Twitter marks the spot</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/News and notes">Another Wikimania has concluded.</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Special report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Special_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Special report">Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion">HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Traffic report">Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really <i>weird</i></a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-08-14/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Humour">I'm proud to be a template</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-08-14" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-08-14">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224800-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224800-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240814224800-The_Signpost:_14_August_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Always_precious" data-mw-thread-id="h-Always_precious-20240820075800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Always_precious-20240820075800"></span>Always precious<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Always_precious-20240820075800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=165" title="Edit section: Always precious"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240820075800-Always_precious"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/110px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG" decoding="async" width="110" height="110" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/165px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG/220px-Yogo2783_Close_crop.JPG 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="1000"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Ten years ago, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Masem" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">you</a> were found precious. That's what you are, always. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240820075800-Always_precious" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:58, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240820075800-Always_precious"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240820075800-Always_precious"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mentorship" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mentorship-20240821172200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mentorship-20240821172200"></span>Mentorship<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mentorship-20240821172200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=166" title="Edit section: Mentorship"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dxneo-20240821172200-Mentorship"></span>Hello, I hope this message finds you well. I was hoping that you would assist me in the preparation and processing of the FAC nomination. I wanted to nominate <a href="/wiki/Tyla_(album)" title="Tyla (album)">this article</a>. I'll be on the lookout for your response <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span>. <b><span style="color:Purple">dxneo</span></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dxneo" title="User talk:Dxneo">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Dxneo-20240821172200-Mentorship" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dxneo-20240821172200-Mentorship"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dxneo-20240821172200-Mentorship"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines" data-mw-thread-id="h-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines-20240826175000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines-20240826175000"></span>An editor ignoring the guidelines<span data-mw-comment-end="h-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines-20240826175000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=167" title="Edit section: An editor ignoring the guidelines"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826175000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span>Hello, I went to an editor's talk page to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cold_Season&diff=prev&oldid=1242297933">inform them of the guidelines</a>, which I believe their actions don't align with, but the person was <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACold_Season&diff=1242302652&oldid=1242297933">quite flippant in response</a> and proceeded to make more edits that are contrary to the guidelines. The user appears to have been very active on Wikipedia, so it's tough to see it as a simple misunderstanding. Where do we go from here? <a href="/wiki/User:Daisy_Blue" title="User:Daisy Blue">Daisy Blue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daisy_Blue" title="User talk:Daisy Blue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Daisy_Blue-20240826175000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826175000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826175000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span> </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AGame_Science&diff=1242457876&oldid=1242445341"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826224400-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span>This response</a> to another user also seems unreasonably harsh and disproportionate. <a href="/wiki/User:Daisy_Blue" title="User:Daisy Blue">Daisy Blue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daisy_Blue" title="User talk:Daisy Blue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Daisy_Blue-20240826224400-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826224400-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daisy_Blue-20240826224400-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span> </p><p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Game%20Science&diff=prev&oldid=1256905759"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Daisy_Blue-20241112053000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span>This edit summary</a> is also very problematic to me. <a href="/wiki/User:Daisy_Blue" title="User:Daisy Blue">Daisy Blue</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daisy_Blue" title="User talk:Daisy Blue">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Daisy_Blue-20241112053000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Daisy_Blue-20241112053000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Daisy_Blue-20241112053000-An_editor_ignoring_the_guidelines"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section" data-mw-thread-id="h-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section-20240828191800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section-20240828191800"></span>Danny Cohen: Jimmy Savile section<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section-20240828191800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=168" title="Edit section: Danny Cohen: Jimmy Savile section"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-C_at_Access-20240828191800-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section"></span>Hi Masem. I recently posted a new edit request at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)#Jimmy_Savile_and_Pollard_report" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)">Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)#Jimmy Savile and Pollard report</a>. I am hoping you won't mind having a look, and if you agree with my discussion there, if you could implement the request, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if you can, there are still two small edits I asked for directly above this new ER that still have not been implemented. If you could check those out also at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Danny_Cohen_(television_executive)#Infobox,_BBC_Three,_and_Personal_life" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)">Talk:Danny Cohen (television executive)#Infobox, BBC Three, and Personal life</a>, at the bottom of the section, that would be great. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/User:C_at_Access" title="User:C at Access">C at Access</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:C_at_Access&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:C at Access (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-C_at_Access-20240828191800-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-C_at_Access-20240828191800-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-C_at_Access-20240828191800-Danny_Cohen:_Jimmy_Savile_section"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_4_September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_4_September_2024-20240904132700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_4_September_2024-20240904132700"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 4 September 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_4_September_2024-20240904132700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=169" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 4 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240904132700-The_Signpost:_4_September_2024"></span>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-04/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-04/News and notes">WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked</a></li></ul> <ul><li>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-04/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-04/In the media">AI is not playing games anymore. 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Saw that you have access to guarded pages and i checked Fortnite's latest release. Fortnite Festival is not the latest release. It's Fortnite Reload. I would be very happy if you change it. See ya! <a href="/wiki/User:Yavor_Minchaka" title="User:Yavor Minchaka">Yavor Minchaka</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yavor_Minchaka&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Yavor Minchaka (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300-Fortnite_Reload" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300-Fortnite_Reload"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300-Fortnite_Reload"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240909203100-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300"></span>I'll need to review sources on that. I took it that Reload was a LTM or at least a varient of FBR, not a fully separate game in the fashion of festival or rocket racing. We'd not list LTMs as separate games, though we should have info about it. - - <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240909203100-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240909203100-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240909203100-Yavor_Minchaka-20240909201300"></span> <dl><dd><span style="font-size:smaller;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GoneIn60-20240909204000-Masem-20240909203100"></span>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>)</span> I believe it is the latest mode to release. These might help if you want to use them. I made sure there were archived versions as well available at Wayback: <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.fortnite.com/news/squad-up-for-fortnite-reload">Squad Up for Fortnite</a> – Official announcement</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.ign.com/articles/fortnite-reload-is-a-new-mode-with-a-new-map-endless-revives-classic-elements-and-no-vehicles">Fortnite Reload Is a New Mode With a New Map...</a> – IGN</li></ul></dd> <dd>Cheers! --<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GoneIn60" title="User talk:GoneIn60">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GoneIn60-20240909204000-Masem-20240909203100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GoneIn60-20240909204000-Masem-20240909203100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GoneIn60-20240909204000-Masem-20240909203100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240910014400-GoneIn60-20240909204000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GoneIn60" title="User:GoneIn60">GoneIn60</a>:</span> I've looked at other sources, and the biggest indiciator is that Epic has a special launcher for Reload from the EGS, so that makes sense to treat it as a new game. However, I wanted to make sure there was a reasonable section on it before adding it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240910014400-GoneIn60-20240909204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240910014400-GoneIn60-20240909204000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240910014400-GoneIn60-20240909204000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones-20240910110000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones-20240910110000"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/James_Earl_Jones" title="James Earl Jones">James Earl Jones</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones-20240910110000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=171" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for James Earl Jones"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bagumba-20240910110000-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Asia_Australia.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 10 September 2024, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/James_Earl_Jones" title="James Earl Jones">James Earl Jones</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Bagumba-20240910110000-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bagumba-20240910110000-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bagumba-20240910110000-ITN_recognition_for_James_Earl_Jones"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disco_Elysium" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disco_Elysium-20240917115900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disco_Elysium-20240917115900"></span>Disco Elysium<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disco_Elysium-20240917115900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=172" title="Edit section: Disco Elysium"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RadRedRooster-20240917115900-Disco_Elysium"></span>The Wikipedia description says: "The game was released by Spike Chunsoft in Japan on August 25, 2022." <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RadRedRooster&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RadRedRooster (page does not exist)">RadRedRooster</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RadRedRooster" title="User talk:RadRedRooster">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-RadRedRooster-20240917115900-Disco_Elysium" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RadRedRooster-20240917115900-Disco_Elysium"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RadRedRooster-20240917115900-Disco_Elysium"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20240919032300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20240919032300"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Game_jam_video_games" title="Category:Game jam video games">Category:Game jam video games</a> has been nominated for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion-20240919032300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=173" title="Edit section: Category:Game jam video games has been nominated for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Zxcvbnm-20240919032300-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><a href="/wiki/Category:Game_jam_video_games" title="Category:Game jam video games">Category:Game jam video games</a> has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_19#Category:Game_jam_video_games" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 19">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Zxcvbnm" title="User:Zxcvbnm">ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Zxcvbnm" title="User talk:Zxcvbnm">ᴛ</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Zxcvbnm-20240919032300-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Zxcvbnm-20240919032300-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Zxcvbnm-20240919032300-Category:Game_jam_video_games_has_been_nominated_for_deletion"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Regarding_Mario" data-mw-thread-id="h-Regarding_Mario-20240923053500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Regarding_Mario-20240923053500"></span>Regarding Mario<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Regarding_Mario-20240923053500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=174" title="Edit section: Regarding Mario"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Panini!-20240923053500-Regarding_Mario"></span>Hey Masem! I've been on your page a while because it's quite a funny read. </p><p>This is regarding your message left <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Second,_third,_and_fourth+_opinions_on_how_to_reorganize_Mario_before_I_do_anything_too_drastic" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games">here</a>; just in general, I'd appreciate your judgement on how I should specifically handle this section of the article. I feel the same way, but I'm not too sure how to get it to that point. <a href="/wiki/User:Panini!" title="User:Panini!"><span style="color:#F40">Panini!</span></a> <span style="color:#F40">•</span> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Panini!" title="User talk:Panini!">🥪</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Panini!-20240923053500-Regarding_Mario" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Panini!-20240923053500-Regarding_Mario"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Panini!-20240923053500-Regarding_Mario"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC-20240925082400"><span id="Assassin.27s_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC-20240925082400"></span><a href="/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_Shadows" title="Assassin's Creed Shadows">Assassin's Creed Shadows</a> has an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RFC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RFC">RfC</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC-20240925082400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=175" title="Edit section: Assassin's Creed Shadows has an RfC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xslyq-20240925082400-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><b><a href="/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed_Shadows" title="Assassin's Creed Shadows">Assassin's Creed Shadows</a></b> has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the <b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Assassin%27s_Creed_Shadows#RfC:Should_Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_retain_the_Re-enactment_flag_controversy_and_Japanese_reaction?" title="Talk:Assassin's Creed Shadows">discussion page</a></b>. Thank you.<a href="/wiki/User:Xslyq" title="User:Xslyq">Xslyq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xslyq" title="User talk:Xslyq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Xslyq-20240925082400-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xslyq-20240925082400-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xslyq-20240925082400-Assassin's_Creed_Shadows_has_an_RfC"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Arbitration_case_opened" data-mw-thread-id="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926121700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926121700"></span>Arbitration case opened<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Arbitration_case_opened-20240926121700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=176" title="Edit section: Arbitration case opened"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20240926121700-Arbitration_case_opened"></span>You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion</a>. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Evidence" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Evidence">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Evidence</a>. <b>Please add your evidence by October 10, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes.</b> You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Workshop" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Workshop">Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Workshop</a>. For a guide to the arbitration process, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Party_Guide/Introduction" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction">Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Introduction</a>. For the Arbitration Committee, <a href="/wiki/User:SilverLocust" title="User:SilverLocust">SilverLocust</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilverLocust" title="User talk:SilverLocust">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-SilverLocust-20240926121700-Arbitration_case_opened" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilverLocust-20240926121700-Arbitration_case_opened"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilverLocust-20240926121700-Arbitration_case_opened"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Proposed_decision_posted" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_decision_posted-Arbitration_case_opened-20241024003100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_decision_posted-Arbitration_case_opened-20241024003100"></span>Proposed decision posted<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_decision_posted-Arbitration_case_opened-20241024003100"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=177" title="Edit section: Proposed decision posted"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20241024003100-Proposed_decision_posted"></span>In the open <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion"><i>Backlash to diversity and inclusion</i></a> arbitration case (also called <i>Yasuke</i>), the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Proposed_decision" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Proposed decision">proposed findings and remedies</a> have been posted—though you are not mentioned in any of them. If you wish, you may review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash_to_diversity_and_inclusion/Proposed_decision" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Backlash to diversity and inclusion/Proposed decision">proposed decision talk page</a>. For a guide to the proposed decision, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Party_Guide/Proposed_decision" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Proposed decision">Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Party Guide/Proposed decision</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:SilverLocust" title="User:SilverLocust">SilverLocust</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilverLocust" title="User talk:SilverLocust">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-SilverLocust-20241024003100-Proposed_decision_posted" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:31, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilverLocust-20241024003100-Proposed_decision_posted"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilverLocust-20241024003100-Proposed_decision_posted"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Signpost:_26_September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024-20240926201000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024-20240926201000"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 26 September 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024-20240926201000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=178" title="Edit section: The Signpost: 26 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201000-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"></span>In the media: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/In_the_media" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/In the media">Courts order Wikipedia to give up names of editors, legal strain anticipated from "online safety laws"</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Community view: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Community_view" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Community view">Indian courts order Wikipedia to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Serendipity: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Serendipity" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Serendipity">A Wikipedian at the 2024 Paralympics</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Opinion: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Opinion" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Opinion">asilvering's RfA debriefing</a></li></ul> <ul><li>News and notes: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/News_and_notes" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/News and notes">Are you ready for admin elections?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Gallery: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Gallery" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Gallery">Are Ludd<i>ai</i>tes defending the English Wikipedia?</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Recent research: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Recent_research" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Recent research">Article-writing AI is less "prone to reasoning errors (or hallucinations)" than human Wikipedia editors</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-09-26/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-09-26/Traffic report">Jump in the line, rock your body in time</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-09-26" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-09-26">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201000-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201000-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240926201000-The_Signpost:_26_September_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Balatro" data-mw-thread-id="h-Balatro-20240927122700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Balatro-20240927122700"></span><a href="/wiki/Balatro_(video_game)" title="Balatro (video game)">Balatro</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Balatro-20240927122700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=179" title="Edit section: Balatro"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700-Balatro"></span>Is there any specific documentation on tvOS should not be listed as an independent platform? I've only heard of <a href="/wiki/IPadOS" title="IPadOS">iPadOS</a> getting this treatment as it is similar enough to iOS; I also believe that the tvOS version is worth mentioning purely because it is only available through the Apple Arcade version. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:MimirIsSmart" title="User:MimirIsSmart"><span style="color: RoyalBlue">MimirIsSmart</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MimirIsSmart" title="User talk:MimirIsSmart"><span style="color: RoyalBlue">(talk)</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700-Balatro" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700-Balatro"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700-Balatro"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20240927123200-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700"></span>Both iPadOS and tvOS are derivatives of iOS, so if there's an iOS version, there's no need to specify the unique iPadOS and tVOS version. If the game is uniquely available to only tvOS but no iOS, then marking it as tvOS is fine, but that seems to be an exeptional scenario. I know that I did add that there is an Apple Arcade version of the game in the body of Balatro, to cover that aspect. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20240927123200-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20240927123200-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20240927123200-MimirIsSmart-20240927122700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_message_from_Sjones23_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_message_from_Sjones23_2-20240929235700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_message_from_Sjones23_2-20240929235700"></span>New message from Sjones23<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_message_from_Sjones23_2-20240929235700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=180" title="Edit section: New message from Sjones23"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sjones23-20240929235700-New_message_from_Sjones23_2"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/25px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/38px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg/50px-Symbol_watching_blue_lashes_high_contrast.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></span></span> You are invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Kris_Kristofferson#Lyme_Disease_-_revisited" title="Talk:Kris Kristofferson">Talk:Kris Kristofferson § Lyme Disease - 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Wikipedia wins!</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Contest: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Contest" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-10-19/Contest">A WikiCup for the Global South</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Traffic report: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Traffic_report" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-10-19/Traffic report">A scream breaks the still of the night</a></li></ul> <ul><li>Book review: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Book_review" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-10-19/Book review"><i>The Editors</i></a></li></ul> <ul><li>Humour: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Humour" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-10-19/Humour"><i>The Newspaper Editors</i></a></li></ul> <ul><li>Crossword: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Crossword" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-10-19/Crossword">Spilled Coffee Mug</a> </li></ul></div> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost">Read this Signpost in full</a></b> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Single/2024-10-19" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-10-19">Single-page</a> * <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe" title="Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe">Unsubscribe</a> * <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241019111500-The_Signpost:_19_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241019111500-The_Signpost:_19_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241019111500-The_Signpost:_19_October_2024"></span> </div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS." data-mw-thread-id="h-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS.-20241021162000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS.-20241021162000"></span>CAN YOU STOP REVERTING MY EDITS.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS.-20241021162000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=182" title="Edit section: CAN YOU STOP REVERTING MY EDITS."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-LuffyDe-20241021162000-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS."></span>You are claiming that it occurred on 1 day yet it occurred for 1 full year unnoticed. PLEASE FFS STOP REVERTING THE EDITS. This is now unwarranted harassment and would be reported to the administrators. You are participating in vandalism yourself and abusing your powers. </p><p>1. Twitch streaming service 'regrets' de-facto ban on Israelis - JNS.org (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jns.org/twitch-streaming-service-regrets-de-facto-ban-on-israelis/">https://www.jns.org/twitch-streaming-service-regrets-de-facto-ban-on-israelis/</a>) </p><p>2. Streaming site Twitch accused of unchecked antisemitism, anti-Israel bias | The Times of Israel (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.timesofisrael.com/streaming-site-twitch-accused-of-unchecked-antisemitism-anti-israel-bias/">https://www.timesofisrael.com/streaming-site-twitch-accused-of-unchecked-antisemitism-anti-israel-bias/</a>) </p><p>3. Israeli IP addresses were banned from singing up to Twitch for a year - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com) (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-825477">https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-825477</a>) </p><p>4. Twitch Quietly Blocked New Users From Israel and Palestine Since October 7 (404media.co) (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.404media.co/twitch-quietly-blocked-new-users-from-israel-and-palestine-since-october-7/">https://www.404media.co/twitch-quietly-blocked-new-users-from-israel-and-palestine-since-october-7/</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:LuffyDe" title="User:LuffyDe">LuffyDe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:LuffyDe" title="User talk:LuffyDe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-LuffyDe-20241021162000-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-LuffyDe-20241021162000-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-LuffyDe-20241021162000-CAN_YOU_STOP_REVERTING_MY_EDITS."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20241021173600-LuffyDe-20241021162000"></span>I've answered to this on the Twitch talk page, but the bigger problem is that the accusations about Twitch fall within <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">WP:UNDUE</a> as it's a small number of users that appear to be considering the block for the year as a problem. That Twitch did block from Oct 7 and forgot to lift that is appropriate to include, but not the apparent controversy. <a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20241021173600-LuffyDe-20241021162000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20241021173600-LuffyDe-20241021162000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20241021173600-LuffyDe-20241021162000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="User:SoNotBietin" data-mw-thread-id="h-User:SoNotBietin-20241022184000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-User:SoNotBietin-20241022184000"></span>User:SoNotBietin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-User:SoNotBietin-20241022184000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=183" title="Edit section: User:SoNotBietin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GSK-20241022184000-User:SoNotBietin"></span>Hi Masem. Given your involvement with <a href="/wiki/Twitter" title="Twitter">Twitter</a> and the edit warring by <a href="/wiki/User:SoNotBietin" title="User:SoNotBietin">User:SoNotBietin</a>, I wanted to inform you that their 3RR block has expired, and they have once again taken to adding the unicode X character back to the lead, the same action that led to their 3RR block in the first place. In light of this, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1252733942">I have reported them to AI:V and am now considering this to be a case of vandalism.</a> </p><p>I believe the responsibility to raise a discussion about this topic is on <a href="/wiki/User:SoNotBietin" title="User:SoNotBietin">User:SoNotBietin</a>, but so far, they seem entirely unwilling to do so. </p><p>All the best, <b><a href="/wiki/User:GSK" title="User:GSK">GSK</a></b> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GSK" title="User talk:GSK">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GSK" title="Special:Contributions/GSK">edits</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GSK-20241022184000-User:SoNotBietin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GSK-20241022184000-User:SoNotBietin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GSK-20241022184000-User:SoNotBietin"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GSK-20241022185000-GSK-20241022184000"></span>I have also nominated <a href="/wiki/Twitter" title="Twitter">Twitter</a> for ECP protection, as this will stop the edit warring (for the time being, at least) without needing to block them again. Perhaps with ECP protection, a line of communication can finally be opened, but I'm doubtful. <b><a href="/wiki/User:GSK" title="User:GSK">GSK</a></b> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GSK" title="User talk:GSK">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GSK" title="Special:Contributions/GSK">edits</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-GSK-20241022185000-GSK-20241022184000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GSK-20241022185000-GSK-20241022184000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GSK-20241022185000-GSK-20241022184000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&action=edit&section=184" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192200-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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There are too many users on Wikipedia who like to put everything paragraph after paragraph in the intro - I've seen it plenty - which is a poor formatting choice and as I've discovered even breaks the site rules according to the Manual of Style, but I bet the vast majority of them don't even know. <a href="/wiki/User:Sceeegt" title="User:Sceeegt">Sceeegt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sceeegt" title="User talk:Sceeegt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sceeegt-20241122034700-Switch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sceeegt-20241122034700-Switch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sceeegt-20241122034700-Switch"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Masem-20241122035000-Sceeegt-20241122034700"></span>The manual of style are guidelines, they are not required to be followed. The number of paragraphs in the lede can be more than 3 if that reads better. --<a href="/wiki/User:Masem" title="User:Masem">M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span></a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">t</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Masem-20241122035000-Sceeegt-20241122034700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Masem-20241122035000-Sceeegt-20241122034700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Masem-20241122035000-Sceeegt-20241122034700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sceeegt-20241122035900-Masem-20241122035000"></span>More than 3 if it's formatted well, i.e. not single-sentence paragraphs or trivial info that shouldn't be in lead - I've seen too many of these. I think the hidden comments will at least help such users make better quality edits and using a set format like for example Intro - Development - Legacy so that the topics are structured well. <a href="/wiki/User:Sceeegt" title="User:Sceeegt">Sceeegt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sceeegt" title="User talk:Sceeegt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Masem#c-Sceeegt-20241122035900-Masem-20241122035000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sceeegt-20241122035900-Masem-20241122035000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sceeegt-20241122035900-Masem-20241122035000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&oldid=1258881203">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Masem&oldid=1258881203</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 22 November 2024, at 03:59<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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