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Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=141298&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p141298" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=123454&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" style="color: #000000;" class="username-coloured">Content Feedback</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-03-09T13:09:57+00:00">March 9th, 2006, 1:09 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What <strong class="text-strong">difficulty levels</strong> and <strong class="text-strong">game versions</strong> have you played the scenario on? <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div> <div class="notice"> Last edited by <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=113928&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" style="color: #CA8935;" class="username-coloured">Pentarctagon</a> on March 1st, 2019, 11:07 pm, edited 1 time in total. <br /><strong>Reason:</strong> <em>Locked as the scenario is removed in 1.14.6.</em> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p142294" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile142294"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102858&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">SmokemJags</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102858&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">580</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 14th, 2006, 3:24 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> New Avalon</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact SmokemJags"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact SmokemJags</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="https://www.icq.com/people/35339347/" title="ICQ" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_icq-icon">ICQ</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content142294"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=142294&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p142294"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=142294&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p142294" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102858&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">SmokemJags</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-03-13T08:22:33+00:00">March 13th, 2006, 8:22 am</time> </p> <div class="content">1. hard 1.1.1<br> 2. 2 very easy because I had quite a few elves and a few were leveled<br> 3. obvious<br> 4. made good sense, not tiresome not exciting.<br> 5. poison... which didnt amount to much<br> 6. 7 a nice quick breather after the last marathon<br> 7. seems fine, though i worry for anyone who didnt decide to recruit a decent amount of elves</div> <div id="sig142294" class="signature">"A wise man speaks when he has something to say. 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Hard 1.1.7<br> 2. 5 - a little tricky but it's not like there's a lot of options<br> 3. Very clear<br> 4. I'm not exactly understanding why the two parties split up, but whatever. And was there something to do with the Ogre? I couldn't tell. It didn't seem to want to attack, so I ignored it for most of the scenario, then rushed it towards the end.<br> 5. Too many monsters appearing out of the fog.<br> 6. 5 - too linear a fight, too many monsters appearing out of the fog.<br> 7. Provide more than one path to travel; allow some recruiting or something.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p173568" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile173568"> <dt class="has-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102189&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./download/file.php?avatar=102189_1238494239.png" width="100" height="99" alt="User avatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102189&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Zhukov</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-rank">Art Contributor</dd> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102189&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">1685</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> November 9th, 2005, 5:48 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Australia</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content173568"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=173568&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p173568"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=173568&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p173568" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102189&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" style="color: #0080FF;" class="username-coloured">Zhukov</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-10T11:26:32+00:00">August 10th, 2006, 11:26 am</time> </p> <div class="content">Difficulty, version: Hard, 1.1.8<br> <br> Difficulty: 2/10, would have been magnitudes harder without my leveled Elves.<br> <br> Objectives: very clear.<br> <br> Dialog: could be improved. <br> <br> Challenges: None really. The big Nagas were pretty fierce.<br> <br> Fun factor: 7/10, quite relaxing really.<br> <br> Changes: Do I really need to kill the poor Nagas?</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p175514" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile175514"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104145&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">akepooh</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=104145&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">3</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 17th, 2006, 8:25 am</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content175514"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=175514&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p175514">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=175514&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p175514" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104145&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">akepooh</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-08-17T09:02:52+00:00">August 17th, 2006, 9:02 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What <strong class="text-strong">difficulty levels</strong> and <strong class="text-strong">game versions</strong> have you played the scenario on? <br> <br> - normal, 1.1.8<br> <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) <br> <br> - 5/10 very good balance for me. i happen to have 4 lvl 1 elves (3 sword, 1 healer). with the lvl2 elves given and my lvl 3 guy...the balance is real good.<br> <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? <br> <br> - good<br> <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? <br> <br> - good<br> <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? <br> <br> - troll and queen naga are not easy...but beatable.<br> <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) <br> <br> - 9/10 what with no money?? i got about 500 from last scenario<br> <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> <br> - gimme my money!</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p188835" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile188835"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=101578&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Kohlrabi</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=101578&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">3</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> September 13th, 2005, 6:43 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content188835"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=188835&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p188835">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=188835&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p188835" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=101578&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Kohlrabi</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2006-10-11T11:39:19+00:00">October 11th, 2006, 11:39 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) hard with version 1.1.11.<br> <br> (2) 10: unbeatable, I only had the hero at level 3 and one level 2 elf, no means of recalling units, no means of healing, stopped playing the campaign at this point, which is a shame (actually I had a lot of swordmen and pikeneers, HOW was I supposed to know that I won't be able to use them at some point...).<br> <br> (3) clear.<br> <br> (4) ok.<br> <br> (5) see (2).<br> <br> (6) could have been fun, but regarding (2) I have to give a 1.<br> <br> (7) Give the player like 60-100 starting gold (maybe make it difficulty-dependant) to recall units (and a small fort for that, obviously), or give the player some units at least. I could have finished this level in that case.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p212608" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile212608"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104055&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Septim</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=104055&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">25</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> August 2nd, 2006, 12:03 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Czech republic</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content212608"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=212608&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p212608"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=212608&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p212608" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104055&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Septim</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-01-29T11:20:39+00:00">January 29th, 2007, 11:20 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) third (called normal) v. 1.2 <br> (2) 2-10, depends on the number of elves and woundation of Gerrick; 8 for me <br> (3) little stupid (why have they to kill Naga Queen, when Deoran's group is much stronger?)<br> (4) 3/10 <br> (5) finish it <br> (6) 4 <br> (7) Make it more playable for players, who don't know about this scenario beforehand e. g. Gerrick would have got full health...<br> In this way you support spoilers!</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p215659" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile215659"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=105489&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Kernigh</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=105489&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">107</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 13th, 2007, 10:21 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> United States</dd> <dd class="profile-contact"> <strong>Contact:</strong> <div class="dropdown-container dropdown-left"> <a href="#" class="dropdown-trigger" title="Contact Kernigh"> <i class="icon fa-commenting-o fa-fw icon-lg" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Contact Kernigh</span> </a> <div class="dropdown"> <div class="pointer"><div class="pointer-inner"></div></div> <div class="dropdown-contents contact-icons"> <div> <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/User:Kernigh" title="Website" class="last-cell"> <span class="contact-icon phpbb_website-icon">Website</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> </div> </dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content215659"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=215659&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p215659">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=215659&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p215659" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=105489&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Kernigh</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-02-14T16:45:11+00:00">February 14th, 2007, 4:45 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">I played "Tidings Good and Ill" in January 2007.<br> <br> (1) Hard "Soldier", Wesnoth 1.2.0<br> (2) Scenario difficulty: 3 (easy). The first time, I won but some elves died. The second time, I was careful to fight instead of rush, and I won the scenario without losing any units! It helped that I had 3 Elvish Shamans.<br> (3) I could see the goal in the fog, so I knew what to do. I originally had not expected so many encounters (saurians, ogre, nagas, dark adepts, ...) but I was able to handle them.<br> (4) I consider the previous scenario and the next scenario to be adjacent, so this one was an interim break. I redid the scenario so that I could keep more elves. (I never was able to use those elves in a future scenario.)<br> (5) The major challenge is not having the Scorpion at the beginning poison someone. When that happens, I must keep the poisoned unit next to a Shaman, who cannot cure the poison but who can at least prevent HP loss.<br> <br> I have become aware that there is completely different set of scenarios if I ally with the bandits in "Choice in the Fog". I have not reached those scenarios, because I believe that an alliance with the bandits makes "Choice in the Fog" more difficult.</div> <div id="sig215659" class="signature">--Kernigh <a href="http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/User:Kernigh" class="postlink">http://www.wesnoth.org/wiki/User:Kernigh</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p216475" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile216475"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102821&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Skippy</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=102821&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">85</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 10th, 2006, 2:09 am</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Sydney</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content216475"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=216475&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p216475"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=216475&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p216475" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=102821&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Skippy</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-02-18T06:41:08+00:00">February 18th, 2007, 6:41 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) Medium difficulty - 1.2.1<br> (2) 10 - Impossible (well - I could probably do it with a bit of luck and enough tries - but why?) . I had only Sir Gerrick and Ithelden a Lvl 2 Elvish Ranger. No means of healing, no reinforcements, no hope.<br> (3) Clear enough<br> (4) Would have been interesting if I had any hope of making it to the end. I didn't, so I just thought the incessant 'one more thing' foes were annoying.<br> (5) It doesn't matter if you only take 2 points of damage per attack. With no means of healing and enough enemies they will get you.<br> (6) 1 - Not at all fun. It's a pure gotcha. It's fundamentally flawed. It's broken.<br> (7) Oh, give the player some hope of completing it. Two characters against all the enemies and no hope of healing is not the way to design a fun scenario. At least it doesn't last as long as the old Sceptre of Fire before you realise you have no hope.<br> <br> (PS Sir Gerrick's promotions are also broken because the extra swing doesn't work)</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p216911" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile216911"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=105527&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">friar tuck</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=105527&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">74</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> February 18th, 2007, 7:46 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content216911"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=216911&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p216911">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=216911&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p216911" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=105527&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">friar tuck</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-02-20T07:09:07+00:00">February 20th, 2007, 7:09 am</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(1) What <strong class="text-strong">difficulty levels</strong> and <strong class="text-strong">game versions</strong> have you played the scenario on? </div></blockquote> Hard on 1.2, I also played Easy on 1.1.9. <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) </div></blockquote> 10 Impossible without saveloading. <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? </div></blockquote> Clear. Go North. <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? </div></blockquote> It was obviously an artificially constructed obstacle run. The excuses everybody had for attacking me sounded rather lame though. A single ogre going on a suicide rampage when he's obviously outnumbered just because he wants to find out whether elves taste good? <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? </div></blockquote> No Gold. No recruiting. No control over the members of the party.<br> I was remembering having several levelled elves, which on second look turned out to be ethiliels guards and a sorceress, so maybe thats why they didn't come. Anyway, I was stuck with Garrick, Ithelden, a Fighter and three Shamans, which was much more than others had apparently, but still awfully hard to manage given the number of foes.<br> No time for proper movement.<br> If I moved my units carefully, protecting the healers and taking advantage of slowing, it was no problem to kill off all the enemies, but no way of finishing in time. If I rushed, they would swarm my healers and eat my force piece by piece. <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) </div></blockquote> 4 Challenging to fiddle with a seemingly unsolvable problem, but sacrificing almost everybody for no gain apart fom getting to the next scenario seems rather pointless. <blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div></blockquote> Give a little more time for doing this properly.<br> Maybe one could combine this scenario with the next one into one, giving Garrick a hold for recruiting which disappears after the first turn.<br> This way maybe there wouldnt be so much Gold and unit chaos and the player would feel more in control.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p234719" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile234719"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106200&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">cph</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=106200&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">129</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> May 12th, 2007, 4:29 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> London, UK</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content234719"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=234719&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p234719"></a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=234719&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p234719" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106200&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">cph</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-06-05T07:33:59+00:00">June 5th, 2007, 7:33 am</time> </p> <div class="content">1) Normal, 1.2.4<br> 2) 4<br> 3) Clear<br> 4) Not very convincing.<br> 5) The nagas are a bit tricky, but generally no big problems.<br> 6) 4<br> 7) The ogre seems out of place, and only makes the level harder if you accidentally wander into his attack range while still fighting the nagas.</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p238106" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile238106"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106452&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Zajec</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=106452&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">1</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> June 21st, 2007, 1:06 pm</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content238106"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=238106&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p238106">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=238106&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p238106" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106452&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">Zajec</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-06-21T13:15:32+00:00">June 21st, 2007, 1:15 pm</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) Easy ; 1.3.3<br> (2) 10 (sic!)<br> (3) Clear<br> (4) Fine<br> (5) Which way (path) should I choose to meet the lessest amount of enemies<br> (6) <span style="color:red">0</span> in (1-10) scale<br> (7) Give more elves! It's extremly _stupid_ to give player 2 chars. I spent more than 1 hour in this scenario. 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Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=240625&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p240625" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106580&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">supercomputer42</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-07-08T10:42:35+00:00">July 8th, 2007, 10:42 am</time> </p> <div class="content">(1) What [b]difficulty levels[/b] and [b]game versions[/b] have you played the scenario on? <br> <br> 1.3.3, Normal<br> <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) <br> <br> 10 (almost impossible); I only had a level 3 swordsman, a level 2 elven ranger, and an almost dead level 2 elven captain.<br> <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? <br> <br> Very clear.<br> <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? <br> <br> Stupid; there wasn't any storyline. Might as well have skipped this scenario.<br> <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? <br> <br> Not enough units; I had to try dozens of times before I got the right combination of strategy and luck.<br> <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) <br> <br> 1.<br> <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?<br> <br> It would be really nice to (a) heal the units and (b) provide a few elves if you're short. And maybe add something interesting that happens (maybe runnng into bandits or something like that?)</div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Top"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Top</span> </a> </div> </div> </div> <div id="p242080" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile242080"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106671&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">nowhereman</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Posts:</strong> <a href="./search.php?author_id=106671&sr=posts&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7">3</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Joined:</strong> July 18th, 2007, 2:55 pm</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Location:</strong> Grenoble, France</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content242080"> <h3 > <a href="./viewtopic.php?p=242080&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p242080">Re: South Guard 6a. Tidings Good and Ill</a> </h3> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./viewtopic.php?p=242080&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7#p242080" title="Post"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Post</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">by <strong><a href="./memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106671&sid=082345f8724751da9819dad1c5204fb7" class="username">nowhereman</a></strong> » </span><time datetime="2007-07-18T15:08:17+00:00">July 18th, 2007, 3:08 pm</time> </p> <div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite>Eleazar wrote:</cite>(1) What <strong class="text-strong">difficulty levels</strong> and <strong class="text-strong">game versions</strong> have you played the scenario on? <br> (2) How difficult did you find the scenario? (1-10) <br> (3) How clear did you find the scenario objectives? <br> (4) How clear and interesting did you find the dialog and storyline of the scenario? <br> (5) What were your major challenges in meeting the objectives of the scenario? <br> (6) How fun do you think the scenario is? (1-10) <br> (7) What, if any, are changes you would have made to the scenario to make it more fun?</div></blockquote> 1) Normal, 1.2.5<br> 2) 8 (not enough time given the army I had, managed to reach the objective in the last turn)<br> 3) Clear<br> 4) Poor, not much of a story just a bunch of monsters attacking for no good reason<br> 5) Getting there on time, given I had Gerrick, one level2 elf to keep at all costs (got poisoned as well...) + 3 level1 elf shamans and keeping them alive. Actually lost one shaman but that's ok I think<br> 6) 3<br> 7) Recall? Recruiting? As somebody on the forum already mentioned, more than one path to get there. More turns. 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