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article nominee</a></b></td><td>Not listed</td></tr><tr><td><span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Socrates&oldid=1061596686">December 22, 2021</a></span></td><td><b><a href="/wiki/Talk:Socrates/GA2" title="Talk:Socrates/GA2">Good article nominee</a></b></td><td>Listed</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2">Current status: <b>Good article</b></td></tr></tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Delphi" data-mw-thread-id="h-Delphi-20230519175900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Delphi-20230519175900"></span>Delphi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Delphi-20230519175900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Socrates&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Delphi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-91.140.15.141-20230519175900-Delphi"></span>The article states he never left Athens although the general historical consensus is he visited Delphi at least once <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/91.140.15.141" title="Special:Contributions/91.140.15.141">91.140.15.141</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:91.140.15.141&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:91.140.15.141 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-91.140.15.141-20230519175900-Delphi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-91.140.15.141-20230519175900-Delphi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-91.140.15.141-20230519175900-Delphi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span>Maybe not the historical consensus but that’s what I was taught in school and what I’ve read regarding Socrates <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9" title="Special:Contributions/2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9">2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200-91.140.15.141-20230519175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:32, 19 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Anonymous8206-20231105221900-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200"></span>As well as military campaigns..as far as I know the statement is inaccurate <a href="/wiki/User:Anonymous8206" title="User:Anonymous8206">Anonymous8206</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anonymous8206" title="User talk:Anonymous8206">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Anonymous8206-20231105221900-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Anonymous8206-20231105221900-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Anonymous8206-20231105221900-2A01:CB05:62E:7300:D0B1:F080:DDB4:E7A9-20230619163200"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wealthistime-20240301064700-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span>You're absolutely right! In The Apology, Plato writes that Socrates visited the Oracle at Delphi - which is certainly NOT Athens. I concur that the article, at a minimum, should states this, or remove the line altogether that says he never left Athens. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wealthistime&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wealthistime (page does not exist)">Wealthistime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wealthistime" title="User talk:Wealthistime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Wealthistime-20240301064700-91.140.15.141-20230519175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wealthistime-20240301064700-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wealthistime-20240301064700-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wealthistime-20240301072000-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span>Good catch. After double checking the source that was quoted, I've removed the line that states Socrates "never traveled outside of Athens, except for his military campaigns" for the following reasons:</dd> <dd>1) According to Plato. Socrates did at least travel to Delphi (which is outside of Athens).</dd> <dd>2) The source that was cited doesn't even say that as a fact anyway. The citation was Page 10 of the book "Socrates: A guide for the perplexed", and for good measure I read pages 8-12. The source is an opinion piece, which paraphrases Section 230D of Plato's Phaedrus, saying that a young man named Phaedrus *accused* Socrates of never having left the city walls. Obviously, a mere accusation of someone should not be presented as a factual statement, as that line did.</dd> <dd>3) Even the source used in the book of 230D in Plato's Phaedrus is wrong! Or, at the very least it's taken WAY out of context. If you go read starting with 230C, Phaedrus says about Socrates "You are an amazing and most remarkable person. For you really do seem exactly like a stranger who is being guided about, and not like a native. You don't go away from the city out over the border, and it seems to me you don't go outside the walls at all."</dd> <dd>It was a compliment, not an accusation, and the next line further shows it was a friendly and affectionate conversation when Socrates responds in 230E: "Forgive me, my dear friend. You see, I am fond of learning. Now the country places and the trees won't teach me anything, and the people in the city do. But you seem to have found the charm to bring me out. For as people lead hungry animals by shaking in front of them a branch of leaves or some fruit, just so, I think, you, by holding before me discourses in books, will lead me all over Attica and wherever else you please." (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DPhaedrus%3Asection%3D230d">https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DPhaedrus%3Asection%3D230d</a>) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Wealthistime&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Wealthistime (page does not exist)">Wealthistime</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wealthistime" title="User talk:Wealthistime">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Wealthistime-20240301072000-91.140.15.141-20230519175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wealthistime-20240301072000-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wealthistime-20240301072000-91.140.15.141-20230519175900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Political_climate" data-mw-thread-id="h-Political_climate-20231106130500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Political_climate-20231106130500"></span>Political climate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Political_climate-20231106130500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Socrates&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Political climate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Willbb234-20231106130500-Political_climate"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Cinadon36" title="User:Cinadon36">Cinadon36</a>:</span> please explain how the political climate is relevant here. I don't think the paragraph that I removed does this. Thanks, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Willbb234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Willbb234 (page does not exist)">Willbb234</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Willbb234-20231106130500-Political_climate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Willbb234-20231106130500-Political_climate"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Willbb234-20231106130500-Political_climate"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinadon36-20231109084100-Willbb234-20231106130500"></span>hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Willbb234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Willbb234 (page does not exist)">Willbb234</a>. Apologies for the delay. I 'll try to reply as soon as I have some spare time. <a href="/wiki/User:Cinadon36" title="User:Cinadon36"><b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinadon36" title="User talk:Cinadon36"><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Cinadon36-20231109084100-Willbb234-20231106130500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinadon36-20231109084100-Willbb234-20231106130500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cinadon36-20231109084100-Willbb234-20231106130500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cinadon36-20231111073400-Cinadon36-20231109084100"></span>Hi @<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Willbb234&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Willbb234 (page does not exist)">Willbb234</a>, Apologies for the late reply. The political climate is pivotal for grasping the trial of Socrates. A prevalent theory suggests that the trial was politically motivated, as elaborated within the section. It's crucial to provide readers with contextual information regarding the political climate of the time to fully comprehend the political argument presented in the article.<a href="/wiki/User:Cinadon36" title="User:Cinadon36"><b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cinadon36" title="User talk:Cinadon36"><b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Socrates#c-Cinadon36-20231111073400-Cinadon36-20231109084100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cinadon36-20231111073400-Cinadon36-20231109084100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span 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