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href="#Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">9</span> <span>Presumed reason for the block warning</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">10</span> <span>Just so long as you are sure</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">11</span> <span>Hanging Gardens of Babylon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">12</span> <span>Is Caiman venezuelensis formally or possibly a synonym of C.crocodilus?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">7 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">13</span> <span>Seoul Dinosaur vandal</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Ignoring_warnings" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Ignoring_warnings"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">14</span> <span>Ignoring warnings</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Ignoring_warnings-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">15</span> <span>About the Eocene Nezumia lindsayi</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_Pacuarescarus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_Pacuarescarus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">16</span> <span>About Pacuarescarus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_Pacuarescarus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">17</span> <span>Can you make a hypothetical adult form reconstruction of Caprovesposus</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">18</span> <span>There is a saying of Absalomichthys as a manefish instead of a spinyfin</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">19</span> <span>About two Eocene snakeheads</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_Paleocene_sturgeon" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_Paleocene_sturgeon"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">20</span> <span>New Paleocene sturgeon</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_Paleocene_sturgeon-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Keretsa" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Keretsa"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">21</span> <span>Keretsa</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Keretsa-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">22</span> <span>Thank you</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">23</span> <span>What to do with Ophiodon ozymandias?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Moulton's_Handfish" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Moulton's_Handfish"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">24</span> <span>Moulton's Handfish</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Moulton's_Handfish-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_this_guy" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_this_guy"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">25</span> <span>About this guy</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_this_guy-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">26</span> <span>What does this paper say about Chamaeleo caroliquarti.</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">27</span> <span>Category:Prehistoric animals of China has been nominated for merging</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Materialscientist" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Materialscientist"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">28</span> <span>Materialscientist</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Materialscientist-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">29</span> <span>Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bony fish incertae sedis</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">30</span> <span>A problem about the Miocene frog Litoria magna</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">31</span> <span>Taxonomic problems about several species</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_Pleistocene_grebe"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">32</span> <span>About the Pleistocene grebe</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_Balaenoptera_bertae" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_Balaenoptera_bertae"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">33</span> <span>About Balaenoptera bertae</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_Balaenoptera_bertae-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">34</span> <span>When did the Tongan Ground Skink went extinct?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">6 comments</span> <ul id="toc-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-I_just_found_something_weird" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#I_just_found_something_weird"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">35</span> <span>I just found something weird</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-I_just_found_something_weird-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Corbicula_fluminea" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Corbicula_fluminea"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">36</span> <span><i>Corbicula fluminea</i></span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Corbicula_fluminea-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-hello_apokryitaros" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#hello_apokryitaros"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">37</span> <span>hello apokryitaros</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-hello_apokryitaros-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_the_Miocene_Bonito" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_the_Miocene_Bonito"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">38</span> <span>About the Miocene Bonito</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-About_the_Miocene_Bonito-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">39</span> <span>Category:Insect incertae sedis has been nominated for renaming</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">40</span> <span>Thank you, from one Placoderm fan to another</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">41</span> <span>Um, sorry for accidentally using a wiki talk page as a forum</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Asking_for_an_expert" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Asking_for_an_expert"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">42</span> <span>Asking for an expert</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Asking_for_an_expert-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Spix's_macaw" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Spix's_macaw"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">43</span> <span>Spix's macaw</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Spix's_macaw-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Of_matters_nominative" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Of_matters_nominative"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">44</span> <span>Of matters nominative</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Of_matters_nominative-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">45</span> <span>New osteostracan draft--could you take a look?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Bagarius_gigas_age" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Bagarius_gigas_age"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">46</span> <span>Bagarius gigas age</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">1 comment</span> <ul id="toc-Bagarius_gigas_age-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Hello" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Hello"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">47</span> <span>Hello</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Hello-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">48</span> <span>Problematic reversion of the link edit</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">3 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-My_account's_lock" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#My_account's_lock"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">49</span> <span>My account's lock</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">4 comments</span> <ul id="toc-My_account's_lock-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">50</span> <span>Aethaspis and Yujiangolepis?</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dingo_edits" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dingo_edits"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">51</span> <span>Dingo edits</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul id="toc-Dingo_edits-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-About_those_"synonyms"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#About_those_"synonyms""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> <span class="vector-toc-numb">52</span> <span>About those "synonyms"</span> </div> </a> <span class="ext-discussiontools-init-sidebar-meta">2 comments</span> <ul 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data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z-Meiolaniidae"></span>While I don't question the need to update the image "I understood that the two turtles were separated by an ocean and the Neogene" is wrong. While Meiolania is primarily known from Pleistocene remains on Lord Howe and New Caledonia with a Miocene Australian species, It is well known in the literature that there is an undescribed Pleistocne species known from fragmentary remains found in queensland that was sympatric with Ninjemys, so you weren't wrong after all. <a href="/wiki/User:Hemiauchenia" title="User:Hemiauchenia">Hemiauchenia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hemiauchenia" title="User talk:Hemiauchenia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z-Meiolaniidae" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z-Meiolaniidae"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z-Meiolaniidae"></span> </p> <dl><dd><s><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-02-26T22:39:00.000Z-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z"></span>I thought Ninjemys was from the Oligocene. It's from the Pleistocene?</s> So it is from the Pleistocene. I need to get back to work on it!--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-02-26T22:39:00.000Z-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-02-26T22:39:00.000Z-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-02-26T22:39:00.000Z-Hemiauchenia-2020-02-26T22:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sorry_for_bothering_you,_but..." data-mw-thread-id="h-Sorry_for_bothering_you,_but...-2020-03-01T22:36:00.000Z"><span id="Sorry_for_bothering_you.2C_but..."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Sorry_for_bothering_you,_but...-2020-03-01T22:36:00.000Z"></span>Sorry for bothering you, but...<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Sorry_for_bothering_you,_but...-2020-03-01T22:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Sorry for bothering you, but..."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border:2px solid #90C0FF; background:#F0F0FF; width:99%; padding:4px"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Insertcleverphrasehere-2020-03-01T22:36:00.000Z-Sorry_for_bothering_you,_but..."></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/100px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/150px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg/200px-Wikipedia_New_page_reviewer.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><b>New Page Patrol needs experienced volunteers</b></dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPP">New Page Patrol</a> is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles. 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href="/wiki/User:Fylindfotberserk" title="User:Fylindfotberserk">Fylindfotberserk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Fylindfotberserk" title="User talk:Fylindfotberserk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Fylindfotberserk-2020-03-20T19:03:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Fylindfotberserk-2020-03-20T19:03:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Fylindfotberserk-2020-03-20T19:03:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al." data-mw-thread-id="h-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al.-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z"><span id="IP_editor_on_.22laughing_owl.22_et_al."></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al.-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z"></span>IP editor on "laughing owl" et al.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al.-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: IP editor on "laughing owl" et al."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lythronaxargestes-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al."></span>Do you know if <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/119.237.203.92">this IP</a> who's insisting on IOC classifications is a long-time IP-only editor or a sockpuppet? I feel like I've seen this kind of combative behaviour before but I'm not sure. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Lythronaxargestes" title="User:Lythronaxargestes">Lythronaxargestes</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lythronaxargestes#top" title="User talk:Lythronaxargestes">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lythronaxargestes" title="Special:Contributions/Lythronaxargestes">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Lythronaxargestes-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lythronaxargestes-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lythronaxargestes-2020-04-03T21:56:00.000Z-IP_editor_on_"laughing_owl"_et_al."></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="IP_vandal_148.3.196.108" data-mw-thread-id="h-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"></span>IP vandal 148.3.196.108<span data-mw-comment-end="h-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: IP vandal 148.3.196.108"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108"></span>Could we find a way to get an admin to block this user? All they do is vandalise pages adding unsourced incorrect information. I have requested administrator intervention so hopefully they get blocked, but we'll have to see. <a href="/wiki/User:Gilbert.JW" title="User:Gilbert.JW">Gilbert.JW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gilbert.JW" title="User talk:Gilbert.JW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:53, 2 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z-IP_vandal_148.3.196.108"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"></span>We can make a request on the vandalism noticeboard.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T11:53:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T22:33:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z"></span>Good news. The user has been blocked for 1 week. <a href="/wiki/User:Gilbert.JW" title="User:Gilbert.JW">Gilbert.JW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gilbert.JW" title="User talk:Gilbert.JW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T22:33:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 2 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T22:33:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gilbert.JW-2020-05-02T22:33:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-05-02T12:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama" data-mw-thread-id="h-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"></span>May 2020: Loughmoe drama<span data-mw-comment-end="h-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: May 2020: Loughmoe drama"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama"></span>Our friend Mr Caesar finds the heat to be oppressive and <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:17u9e&action=edit&redlink=1">has fled</a> the Loughmoe kitchen.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Quisqualis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Quisqualis (page does not exist)">Quisqualis</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Quisqualis" title="User talk:Quisqualis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z-May_2020:_Loughmoe_drama"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-03T04:41:00.000Z-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"></span>Oh, my kingdom for a can of diatomaceous earth.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-03T04:41:00.000Z-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:41, 3 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-03T04:41:00.000Z-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-05-03T04:41:00.000Z-Quisqualis-2020-05-03T04:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd>)))</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pineberry_is_a_strawberry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span>Pineberry is a strawberry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Pineberry is a strawberry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-77.164.133.132-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry"></span>Dear Apokryltaros, the references in the infobox in <a href="/wiki/Pineberry" title="Pineberry">Pineberry</a> confirm the parents of this cultivar to be <i><a href="/wiki/Fragaria_virginiana" title="Fragaria virginiana">Fragaria virginiana</a></i> and <i><a href="/wiki/Fragaria_chiloensis" title="Fragaria chiloensis">Fragaria chiloensis</a></i>. Every hybrid with these two parents, and also their <a href="/wiki/F2_hybrid" class="mw-redirect" title="F2 hybrid">F2</a> and further generations, and possible back-crosses on one of the parents, is called <i>Fragaria</i> × <i>ananassa</i>, as ruled in <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/pages/main/art_h4.html">Art. H.4.1</a> of the <a href="/wiki/ICBN" class="mw-redirect" title="ICBN">ICN</a>. With the parents known, we do not need any extra reference to the effect that the 'Pineberry' is also a <i>Fragaria</i> × <i>ananassa</i>. You probably wouldn't find one because publishing such a statement would be redundant. With the parents known, the 'Pineberry' is definitely a <i>Fragaria</i> × <i>ananassa</i>, not just a <i><a href="/wiki/Fragaria" title="Fragaria">Fragaria</a></i>; the name should be given accordingly, and the link to the <a href="/wiki/Nothospecies" class="mw-redirect" title="Nothospecies">nothospecies</a> to which it belongs should be to <a href="/wiki/Strawberry" title="Strawberry">strawberry</a>. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/77.164.133.132" title="Special:Contributions/77.164.133.132">77.164.133.132</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:77.164.133.132" title="User talk:77.164.133.132">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-77.164.133.132-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:44, 15 May 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-77.164.133.132-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-77.164.133.132-2020-05-15T10:44:00.000Z-Pineberry_is_a_strawberry"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe" title="Talk:Baron of Loughmoe">Talk:Baron of Loughmoe</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Talk:Baron of Loughmoe"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe"></span>Guess what--User:JuliusCaesar16 is Un-block JuliusCaesar16!, of course, but they're also User:17u9e. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:34, 20 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z-Talk:Baron_of_Loughmoe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-06-20T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"></span>Should we undo 17u9e's contributions, too, as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:DENY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:DENY">WP:DENY</a>, or leave it?--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-06-20T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 20 June 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-06-20T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-06-20T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2020-06-20T02:34:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning" data-mw-thread-id="h-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Presumed reason for the block warning<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Presumed reason for the block warning"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning"></span>Dear Apokryltaros, I received your notification noitifying me of a possible block for spamming of pages as I was adding images to some articles for the WPWP contest. Thanks for calling my attention as I didn't realise that. While I reflect on my possible wrongdoing, I assume it's because I was adding images to articles which are readily rich in image and thus make my image unnecessary. Please note that though I was doing all these for motives relating to the contest, I equally have the motive of improving Wikipedia in mind and I was doing that in good faith, which is why I took it upon myself to always check through first to verify whether the new image am bringing is already present and then determine a suitable spot to place it according to my discretion. In fact, there are many instances of images which I did not add to articles as I felt not appropriate. I as much care about those articles and I don't want to be responsible for vandalizing them, I only thought having more illustrative images will do good for adding those seemingly unnecessary images. </p><p>I appreciate your notice and will most appreciate if you might help me with a guidance/advice for making future edits and adding images. I will suspend any further edits till I have a clear insight to adding the images to articles. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Osenibabalola0" title="User:Osenibabalola0">Osenibabalola0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Osenibabalola0" title="User talk:Osenibabalola0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z-Presumed_reason_for_the_block_warning"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Again, please ignore the warnings I gave you, and please feel free to revert my reversions of your edits. I did those under the mistaken impression that the contest was not allowed. Feel free to ask anything.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T03:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your response and the encouraging replies. And I as well appreciate your mention of the flaws of the other editors in the same offsite contest as mine. Actually, the contest is one organized for members of the Wikimedia Club of my school. I will definitely call the attention of the of the organizers to this issue in order that they may call other editors to order. Thanks once again and for your interest in improving Wikipedia. But before I leave, do you think I may continue with the way I was adding the pictures? <a href="/wiki/User:Osenibabalola0" title="User:Osenibabalola0">Osenibabalola0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Osenibabalola0" title="User talk:Osenibabalola0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T05:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T14:27:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z"></span>You should continue on. Take care to make sure that, if you are uploading the pictures yourself, that you have or have met the necessary copyright requirements or permissions. Some of the other contestants were not doing that.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T14:27:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:27, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T14:27:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-18T14:27:00.000Z-Osenibabalola0-2020-07-18T13:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure" data-mw-thread-id="h-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"></span>Just so long as you are sure<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Just so long as you are sure"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"></span>Hello A. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Logan241293&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Logan241293 (page does not exist)">Logan241293</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Logan241293&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Logan241293 (page does not exist)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Logan241293" title="Special:Contributions/Logan241293">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/Logan241293" title="Special:DeletedContributions/Logan241293">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/Logan241293" title="Special:Log/Logan241293">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=Logan241293">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/Logan241293" title="Special:Block/Logan241293">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3ALogan241293">block log</a>)</span> only has two edits. The first one intimates a sock account and the second was to remove that huge section of the article. Since I don't see one vandal type edit that added the info in the first place I wanted to double check to make sure that you think it doesn't belong in the article. I see that it isn't sourced but I still wanted to make sure of the situation with you. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 21 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"></span>Oops I missed this ips <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E (page does not exist)">2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E</a> <span class="plainlinks">(<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E (page does not exist)">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E" title="Special:Contributions/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E">contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:DeletedContributions/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E" title="Special:DeletedContributions/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E">deleted contribs</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Log/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E" title="Special:Log/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E">logs</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAbuseLog&wpSearchUser=2409%3A4072%3A6D9C%3AA942%3A48DF%3AF909%3A301A%3ACC9E">filter log</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Block/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E" title="Special:Block/2409:4072:6D9C:A942:48DF:F909:301A:CC9E">block user</a> <b>·</b> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog%2Fblock&page=User%3A2409%3A4072%3A6D9C%3AA942%3A48DF%3AF909%3A301A%3ACC9E">block log</a>)</span> edit so now I know why you removed it. Sorry for the error. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/User:MarnetteD" title="User:MarnetteD">MarnetteD</a>|<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarnetteD" title="User talk:MarnetteD">Talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:23, 21 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-21T21:45:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z"></span>Yes, I undid the editor's first edit under the assumption he was a sock puppet or evading a block, and restored his 2nd edit because it turned out he was undoing a big vandalism.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-21T21:45:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-21T21:45:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-21T21:45:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2020-07-21T21:23:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Logan241293-2020-07-22T08:39:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"></span>Thanks for understanding ! Cheers <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Logan241293&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Logan241293 (page does not exist)">Logan241293</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Logan241293&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Logan241293 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Logan241293-2020-07-22T08:39:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 22 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Logan241293-2020-07-22T08:39:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Logan241293-2020-07-22T08:39:00.000Z-Just_so_long_as_you_are_sure"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z"></span>Hanging Gardens of Babylon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Hanging Gardens of Babylon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Parsonscat-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon"></span>If you have an interest in the <a href="/wiki/Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon" title="Hanging Gardens of Babylon">Hanging Gardens of Babylon</a> page, you might like to participate in the discussions going on its <a href="/wiki/Talk:Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon" title="Talk:Hanging Gardens of Babylon">talk page</a> at the moment. No obligation, but I see you've made one or more recent edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Parsonscat" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Parsonscat">The Parson's Cat</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Parsonscat" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Parsonscat">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Parsonscat-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 26 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Parsonscat-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Parsonscat-2020-07-26T09:49:00.000Z-Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"><span id="Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"></span>Is Caiman venezuelensis formally or possibly a synonym of C.crocodilus?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Is Caiman venezuelensis formally or possibly a synonym of C.crocodilus?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span>The synonymy is made by Cidade (2019), but I want to know if it may or may not be 100% sure <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 31 July 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T13:32:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"></span>I wouldn't know, I would need to read Cidade (2019), first.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T13:32:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T13:32:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T13:32:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-07-31T13:20:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span>Is it 100%sure? did you read Cidade (2019)? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 1 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T20:46:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z"></span>What part of my statement of "I have not read Cidade's paper yet" can you not bother to understand?--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T20:46:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:46, 1 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T20:46:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T20:46:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-01T20:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-02T01:36:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span>The paper is ≥<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335179227_Taxonomic_review_of_two_fossil_crocodylians_from_the_Cenozoic_of_South_America_and_its_implications_for_the_crocodylian_fauna_of_the_continent">here</a>, Cidade also made Balanerodus as a nomen dubium. One thing is i cannot get access to this paper, you probably can get it <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-02T01:36:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:36, 2 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-02T01:36:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-02T01:36:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span>Haven't you read it yet? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z-Is_Caiman_venezuelensis_formally_or_possibly_a_synonym_of_C.crocodilus?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-04T14:24:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a>:</span>, please understand that I have a busy life outside of Wikipedia, with many things in addition to prehistoric animal restorations to draw, and other tasks to complete, and please understand that I don't appreciate being nagged to do something I have not yet committed to do yet.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-04T14:24:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-04T14:24:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-04T14:24:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-04T11:13:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"></span>Seoul Dinosaur vandal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Seoul Dinosaur vandal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal"></span>You may already know this, but they're operating from <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2001:2D8:21C:D7F6:340F:D28A:8976:B444/32">a 32 CIDR range</a>, which is unfortunately too large (4+ billion) to block, but that range link is at least useful for quickly detecting them. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Ohnoitsjamie" title="User:Ohnoitsjamie">OhNo<span style="color: #D47C14;">itsJamie</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ohnoitsjamie" title="User talk:Ohnoitsjamie"><sup>Talk</sup></a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 31 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z-Seoul_Dinosaur_vandal"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T15:51:00.000Z-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"></span>I understand. But at least it's a fun but tedious game of whackamole.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T15:51:00.000Z-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T15:51:00.000Z-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-07-31T15:51:00.000Z-Ohnoitsjamie-2020-07-31T15:29:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Ignoring_warnings" data-mw-thread-id="h-Ignoring_warnings-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Ignoring_warnings-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"></span>Ignoring warnings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Ignoring_warnings-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Ignoring warnings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z-Ignoring_warnings"></span>IP adress <b>51.171.113.150</b> is ignoring your warnings about adding unsourced material to Wikipedia. </p> <ul><li><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spider-Man_2&type=revision&diff=970535436&oldid=970462981">[1]</a></li> <li><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Punisher_in_film&type=revision&diff=970535437&oldid=970534021">[2]</a></li> <li><a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Punisher_%282004_film%29&type=revision&diff=970535755&oldid=970532149">[3]</a></li></ul> <p>It's a 14 or 15 year old rumor that gets brought up once in a blue moon, that the Punisher made a cameo appearance in the Spider-Man 2 film, but the only thing it's being based on is that the guy somewhat looks like Thomas Jane (opinion) and is wearing all black... that's it. It's never been proven from anyone, no <i>"quotes"</i> or statements, they claim it's from a Wizard Magazine and the audio commentary from Spider-Man 2, but after 14 or 15 years, you would think we would know that by now. Story wise it makes no sense, also, Sony didn't own the rights to use the character, they would have gotten sued by Lionsgate, there was no MCU at the time. The so-called sources are conveniently very vague with no actual statements or <i>quotes</i> from anyone making that claim. First it was Thomas Jane who made that cameo, now it's his stunt double... they can't make up their minds on this.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.208.137.67" title="Special:Contributions/108.208.137.67">108.208.137.67</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:108.208.137.67" title="User talk:108.208.137.67">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z-Ignoring_warnings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 1 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z-Ignoring_warnings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z-Ignoring_warnings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T00:32:00.000Z-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"></span>I reported them to the AIV.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T00:32:00.000Z-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 1 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T00:32:00.000Z-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-01T00:32:00.000Z-108.208.137.67-2020-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"></span>About the Eocene Nezumia lindsayi<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: About the Eocene Nezumia lindsayi"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"></span>Haven't you heard about this Eocene rattail? I saw this on Fishtreeoflife. I also wonder if it is an otolith species because I saw the fossils list there were no otolith based species <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 3 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.academia.edu/1623688/A_review_of_early_gadiform_evolution_and_diversification_first_record_of_a_rattail_fish_skull_Gadiformes_Macrouridae_from_the_Eocene_of_Antarctica_with_otoliths_"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-03T14:59:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"></span>According to this paper</a>, <i>N. lindsayi</i> is an early Paleocene species known from otoliths.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-03T14:59:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 3 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-03T14:59:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-03T14:59:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-03T14:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:10:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"></span>Also about Gephyroberyx robustus and Istiophorus calvertensis, I see papers of them being referred too extant species, are they 100% synonyms? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:10:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:10:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:10:00.000Z-About_the_Eocene_Nezumia_lindsayi"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_Pacuarescarus" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Pacuarescarus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Pacuarescarus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z"></span>About Pacuarescarus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Pacuarescarus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: About Pacuarescarus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"></span>It hasn't been mentioned in the review of fossil labridae (Bellwood et al, 2019),what do you think about this genus? why isn't it mentioned in the review? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T08:24:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"></span>It was removed from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333618322_Historical_biogeography_of_herbivorous_coral_reef_fishes_The_formation_of_an_Atlantic_fauna">this list</a> because it there are no synapomorphies that allows to place it among extant taxa so it is excluded, doesn't mean its dubious though? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z-About_Pacuarescarus"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:28:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z"></span>That's what the paper is implying, apparently.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:28:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:28:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:28:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-06T13:03:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z"></span>Can you make a hypothetical adult form reconstruction of Caprovesposus<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Can you make a hypothetical adult form reconstruction of Caprovesposus"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus"></span>what would the adult form of this larval surgeonfish like? like today's relatives and Eonaso and Arambourgthurus and Marosichhtys? </p> <dl><dd>I'm sorry, but I don't do requests for free drawings about original research anymore ever since the last person I drew free art for their Wikipedia articles thanked me by totally ignoring what I did for one article, angrily whine at me about how I didn't make the other picture "bigger than Megalodon" despite my following the paper's description to the letter, and then nag me for months on end that I draw him a "Miocene coelacanth" for his pet science project article.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-06T14:25:00.000Z-Can_you_make_a_hypothetical_adult_form_reconstruction_of_Caprovesposus"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin" data-mw-thread-id="h-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z"></span>There is a saying of Absalomichthys as a manefish instead of a spinyfin<span data-mw-comment-end="h-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: There is a saying of Absalomichthys as a manefish instead of a spinyfin"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin"></span>see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/260109#page/121/mode/1up">here</a>. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:09, 17 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-17T04:09:00.000Z-There_is_a_saying_of_Absalomichthys_as_a_manefish_instead_of_a_spinyfin"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_two_Eocene_snakeheads" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"></span>About two Eocene snakeheads<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: About two Eocene snakeheads"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span>Eochanna is known from from jaw fragment from E Eocene , Anchichanna is known from a skull fragment from E-M Eocene boundary. In 2008, Murray and Thewissen cannot determine whether they are the same or not. </p><p>In a 2019 paper says: <i>We recognize †Parachanna fayumensis as the oldest reliable channid fossil and argue that the three oldest so‐called channid fossils (i.e., †Eochanna chlorakkiensis, †Anchichanna kuldanensis, and †Ophiocephalus lydekkeri) lack clear diagnostic features that would allow them to be unequivocally placed within Channidae.</i> </p><p>What's your opinion, are they still putative channids to you? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T03:36:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"></span>If the current specimens of them don't have any reliable channid-specific features, then we should follow what the 2019 paper says.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T03:36:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:36, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T03:36:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T03:36:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T03:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:20:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span> Then if you want to reconstruct them can you describe them as <i>potential channids</i> ? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:20:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:20:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:20:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:23:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span>Better reconstruct them with Drazinderetes... <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:23:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:23, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:23:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T09:23:00.000Z-About_two_Eocene_snakeheads"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_Paleocene_sturgeon" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_Paleocene_sturgeon-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_Paleocene_sturgeon-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"></span>New Paleocene sturgeon<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_Paleocene_sturgeon-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: New Paleocene sturgeon"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z-New_Paleocene_sturgeon"></span>It's called Engdahlichthys milviaegis, but I cannot get access to this paper, maybe you can. So can you draw an illustration of this Paleocene sturgeon and the paddlefish Polyodon tuberculata please? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z-New_Paleocene_sturgeon" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z-New_Paleocene_sturgeon"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z-New_Paleocene_sturgeon"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T13:43:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"></span>@<span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a>:</span>, no offense intended, and I know you mean well, but I have not been motivated to do free requests, even to help Wikipedia, ever since this one Wikipedian repaid me by angrily scolding and whining about how I didn't make his shark big as Megalodon, then bothered me for months to draw him a "Miocene coelacanth."--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T13:43:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T13:43:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T13:43:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-08-21T11:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Keretsa" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keretsa-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keretsa-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"></span>Keretsa<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keretsa-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Keretsa"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z-Keretsa"></span>Hi. As Ivantsov said, the resemblance of Keretsa with proarticulatas (like Spriggina and Cyanorus) is very strong to not consider this hypothesis. "The pleural parts of arthropod segmentscan be preserved by a similar way, in a form ofechelons with a sharp posterior margin. In thesame time the isomers (“half-segments”) of the Proarticulata, a well-known group of Vendianmacroorganisms, also look similarly". <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.69.136.168" title="Special:Contributions/189.69.136.168">189.69.136.168</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:189.69.136.168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:189.69.136.168 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z-Keretsa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:46, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z-Keretsa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z-Keretsa"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T15:26:00.000Z-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"></span>I made a compromise by quoting Ivantsov where he mentions the possible proarticulatan affinities.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T15:26:00.000Z-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T15:26:00.000Z-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-21T15:26:00.000Z-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T14:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T15:29:00.000Z-Keretsa"></span>Wasn't necessary, but Ok. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.69.136.168" title="Special:Contributions/189.69.136.168">189.69.136.168</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:189.69.136.168&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:189.69.136.168 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T15:29:00.000Z-Keretsa" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T15:29:00.000Z-Keretsa"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-189.69.136.168-2020-08-21T15:29:00.000Z-Keretsa"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span>Your help with the feline vandalism is appreciated. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63" title="Special:Contributions/2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63">2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63" title="User talk:2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:48, 22 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-22T05:21:00.000Z-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"></span>My pleasure. And now that the page has been semi-protected, the vandalism campaign will hopefully ease up a bit.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-22T05:21:00.000Z-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-22T05:21:00.000Z-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-08-22T05:21:00.000Z-2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63-2020-08-22T03:48:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"><span id="What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"></span>What to do with <a href="/wiki/Ophiodon_ozymandias" title="Ophiodon ozymandias">Ophiodon ozymandias</a>?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: What to do with Ophiodon ozymandias?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?"></span>Up until now, fossil greenlings were known onlyfrom the late Miocene deposits of Southern California.Jordan and Gilbert (1919) described Achrestogrammusachrestus , Zemiagrammus isistius , and Ophiodon ozi-mandias . Later, Jordan (1925) included Z. isistius in thesynonymy of fossil species Araeosteus rothi describedby him within the family Zaproridae, and tranfered it intothe family Hexagrammidae. In her revision of fossilﬁshes of California, David (1943), describing A. ach-restus , noted a poor condition of its imprints and theirpossible afﬁnity to the family Cottidae. Judging fromthe original descriptions, this is not correct. She con-cluded in her work that Jordan’s original opinion on thesystematic position of A. rothi is correct, and returnedthis species to Zaproridae. She did not mention O. ozimandias in her monograph. Judging from thepublished descriptions (Jordan and Gilbert, 1920; Jor-dan, 1921), material on this species is of unsatisfactoryquality and, most likely, it does not belong toHexagrammidae. Thus, until now, only one member ofHexagrammidae, A. achrestus , is known.</i> </p><p>That's from the Paraophiodon paper in 1997, you can see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/260109#page/155/mode/1up">this</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/260109#page/78/mode/1up">this</a>, although the book do call Ophiodon ozymandias as <i>Ophidion ozymandias</i>. </p><p>So what to do with O.ozymandias page? what's your opinion? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 4 September 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z-What_to_do_with_Ophiodon_ozymandias?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-04T14:50:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"></span>I would leave it alone until more papers studying <i>O. ozymandias</i> and verifying or refuting its current placement are put out.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-04T14:50:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-04T14:50:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-04T14:50:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2020-09-04T10:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Moulton's_Handfish" data-mw-thread-id="h-Moulton's_Handfish-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z"><span id="Moulton.27s_Handfish"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Moulton's_Handfish-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z"></span>Moulton's Handfish<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Moulton's_Handfish-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Moulton's Handfish"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iismitch55-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z-Moulton's_Handfish"></span>Trying to standardize the introduction between different handfish species pages. Can we work on a preferred format? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Iismitch55" title="User:Iismitch55">Iismitch55</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iismitch55#top" title="User talk:Iismitch55">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iismitch55" title="Special:Contributions/Iismitch55">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Iismitch55-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z-Moulton's_Handfish" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 10 September 2020 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iismitch55-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z-Moulton's_Handfish"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iismitch55-2020-09-10T01:56:00.000Z-Moulton's_Handfish"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_this_guy" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_this_guy-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_this_guy-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z"></span>About this guy<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_this_guy-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: About this guy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z-About_this_guy"></span>I've heard about Lutianus hagari, but the correct spelling should be Lutjanus not Lutianus. </p><p>See <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/260109#page/108/mode/1up">here</a>, it's made as a synonym of a unnamed species of Scorpaena. </p><p><br/> Should i refute what the paper says? or we should retain it as Lutjanus?<small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>If the paper says it's a misspelling, then it's misspelled and should be corrected as such.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z-About_this_guy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z-About_this_guy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-21T14:09:00.000Z-About_this_guy"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-22T01:06:00.000Z-About_this_guy"></span>But the review also says it's sunk within an unnamed species of Scorpaena, is it true? or we should treat this species like Ophiodon ozymandias?<small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>According to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=218490">this</a>, it is a synonym of <i><a href="/wiki/Lutjanus_fulviflamma" title="Lutjanus fulviflamma">Lutjanus fulviflamma</a></i>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-22T01:06:00.000Z-About_this_guy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:06, 22 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-22T01:06:00.000Z-About_this_guy"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-22T01:06:00.000Z-About_this_guy"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti." data-mw-thread-id="h-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti.-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti.-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"></span>What does this paper say about Chamaeleo caroliquarti.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti.-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: What does this paper say about Chamaeleo caroliquarti."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-016-1336-5?shared-article-renderer"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti."></span>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00114-016-1336-5?shared-article-renderer</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) </small> </p> <dl><dd>First off, <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a>:</span>, can you please be assed to sign your own messages for a start?--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 23 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z-What_does_this_paper_say_about_Chamaeleo_caroliquarti."></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:44:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"></span>Second, the paper says that <i>Chamaeleo caroliquarti</i> is the oldest chameleon known in Miocene/Neogene Europe.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:44:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:44, 23 September 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:44:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:44:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2020-09-23T13:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China" title="Category:Prehistoric animals of China">Category:Prehistoric animals of China</a> has been nominated for merging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Category:Prehistoric animals of China has been nominated for merging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span 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A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_December_4#Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 December 4">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:UnitedStatesian" title="User:UnitedStatesian">UnitedStatesian</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:UnitedStatesian" title="User talk:UnitedStatesian">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-UnitedStatesian-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-UnitedStatesian-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-UnitedStatesian-2020-12-04T19:51:00.000Z-Category:Prehistoric_animals_of_China_has_been_nominated_for_merging"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Materialscientist" data-mw-thread-id="h-Materialscientist-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Materialscientist-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span>Materialscientist<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Materialscientist-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Materialscientist"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z-Materialscientist"></span>Hi Apokryltaros do you know when materialscientist will check his talk page. As well as this, I recently added another source to <a href="/w/index.php?title=LDShadowLady&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="LDShadowLady (page does not exist)">this page</a>, can you check if i did it right? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.3.185.12" title="Special:Contributions/82.3.185.12">82.3.185.12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:82.3.185.12" title="User talk:82.3.185.12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z-Materialscientist" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z-Materialscientist"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z-Materialscientist"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-12-18T14:50:00.000Z-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span>I don't know the schedule in which <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Materialscientist" title="User:Materialscientist">Materialscientist</a>:</span> checks their talkpage. From what I can tell, your newer edits are fine.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2020-12-18T14:50:00.000Z-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2020-12-18T14:50:00.000Z-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2020-12-18T14:50:00.000Z-82.3.185.12-2020-12-18T14:47:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Bony fish incertae sedis (page does not exist)">Category:Bony fish incertae sedis</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bony fish incertae sedis"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Bony fish incertae sedis (page does not exist)">Category:Bony fish incertae sedis</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#C1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a <a href="/wiki/Category:Disambiguation_categories" title="Category:Disambiguation categories">disambiguation category</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_soft_redirected_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories">category redirect</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_featured_topics_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia featured topics categories">featured topics category</a>, under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories for discussion</a>, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. </p><p>If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may <b>contest the nomination</b> by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Bony fish incertae sedis (page does not exist)">visiting the page</a> and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies" title="Wikipedia:List of policies">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a>. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz"><i><b>L</b></i>iz</a></span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz"><i><b>Read!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Liz-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Liz-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Liz-2021-01-01T15:40:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Bony_fish_incertae_sedis"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"></span>A problem about the Miocene frog Litoria magna<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: A problem about the Miocene frog Litoria magna"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/41148758#page/117/mode/1up"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna"></span>https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/41148758#page/117/mode/1up</a> </p><p>Litoria magna is a extinct tree frog from Riversleigh, but I have some problems about this genus. Litoria is revealed as a paraphylletic genus with all the big former species transferred to Ranoidea and two in Nyctimystes. The paper says the genus is bigger than any species of Litoria, and only former species of Litoria is mentioned.So I wonder if I create this page should i name it Ranoidea magna or Nyctimystes magna rather than Litoria? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:06, 30 January 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z-A_problem_about_the_Miocene_frog_Litoria_magna"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-01-30T15:02:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"></span>Unless we can find a paper that specifically states <i>Litoria magna</i> as having been transferred to either <i>Ranoidea</i> or <i>Nyctimystes</i>, we have to leave it in <i>Litoria</i>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-01-30T15:02:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-01-30T15:02:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-01-30T15:02:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-01-30T07:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species" data-mw-thread-id="h-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"></span>Taxonomic problems about several species<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Taxonomic problems about several species"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"></span>Salmo australis is described from Pleistocene from Southwestern Mexico, but the genus Salmo is absent from Mexico and only Oncorhynchus salmons found in Mexico, so I wonder if I create this page can I name it Oncorhynchus australis rather than Salmo australis? </p><p>There are fossil tree frog species referred to Hyla but now the genus is absent from the Americas and now either Dryophytes or Pseudacris. There are three species (miocenica from Texas,baderi and goini from Florida) known from fossil record. So my opinion is that the species from Florida should be moved to Dryophytes (even if AmphibiaWeb is still treating most of the North American species in Hyla) </p><p>Tupinambis uruguaianensis is found in Rio Grande do Sul, but in the Callopistes rionegrensis paper says that the species should be allocated to Dracaena but the paper's phylogeny do not put a bracket for T. uruguaianensis. There are <a href="/wiki/Tupinambis" title="Tupinambis">Tupinambis</a> species found in nearby Sao Paulo. </p><p><br/> Morone ionkoi from Miocene Moldova is classified in the subgenus Dicentrarchus, but Dicentrarchus is classified as a full genus so can I say it Dicentrarchus ionkoi? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-04T07:04:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"></span>Salmo australis</i> is synonymized as <i>Oncorhynchus australis</i> by the time <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/141723/tafs0001.pdf?sequence=1">this paper</a> was published. As for the others, try searching for them in scholar.google.com, with the binomial in parenthesis. If nothing turns up, then my advice would be to keep their names as they were originally described, as it would otherwise be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_Research" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Original Research">WP:Original Research</a>. If, later, it turns out that they've been synonymized, we can just move the page to the new name.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-04T07:04:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-04T07:04:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-04T07:04:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-04T06:40:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"></span>Continue with the amphibian problem: Litoria magna is known from Miocene Australia and it's bigger than any recent Litoria but that genus now only contains small genus but AmphibiaWeb is still regarding the traditional Litoria phylogeny as the same as Hyla, they are still regarding some of the American tree frogs within Hyla <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 5 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z-Taxonomic_problems_about_several_species"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-05T02:11:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z"></span>It's like I said earlier, that you apparently didn't read, or I didn't make clear enough, until someone officially moves <i>Litoria magna</i> out of <i>Litoria</i>, we can not change its name as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_Research" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Original Research">WP:Original Research</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-05T02:11:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-05T02:11:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-05T02:11:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-05T02:08:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_Pleistocene_grebe" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"></span>About the Pleistocene grebe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: About the Pleistocene grebe"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe"></span>The grebe Podilymbus wetmorei is known from the Pleistocene but it has been synonymized with P. podiceps so I wonder if the synonymy is 100%? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z-About_the_Pleistocene_grebe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-08T14:30:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"></span>If it's been synonymized, then it's been synonymized. You do know how to search through google or scholar.google right?--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-08T14:30:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-08T14:30:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-08T14:30:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-08T12:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_Balaenoptera_bertae" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Balaenoptera_bertae-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Balaenoptera_bertae-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"></span>About Balaenoptera bertae<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Balaenoptera_bertae-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: About Balaenoptera bertae"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z-About_Balaenoptera_bertae"></span>There has been phylogenetic analyses that says the B. bertae should not belong to Balaenoptera but this is only said in Michaelangelo Bisconti's papers. So I wonder if we still can have the page titled Balaenoptera bertae? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z-About_Balaenoptera_bertae" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z-About_Balaenoptera_bertae"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z-About_Balaenoptera_bertae"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T14:40:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"></span>Until Bisconti or someone else actually moves <i>B. bertae</i> out of <i>Balaenoptera</i>, the most we can do in Wikipedia is mention that Bisconti says it shouldn't be in <i>Balaenoptera</i>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T14:40:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:40, 10 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T14:40:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T14:40:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T07:36:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?" data-mw-thread-id="h-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"><span id="When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span>When did the Tongan Ground Skink went extinct?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: When did the Tongan Ground Skink went extinct?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span>It has been said that this species gone extinct in 1827, but that wasn't 100% sure, and the page doesn't even has a extinct date being put. So I wonder it may be a subfossil species. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://reptile-database.reptarium.cz/species?genus=Tachygyia&species=microlepis"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T15:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span>[4]</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T15:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 10 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T15:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-10T15:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-10T14:56:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span>I don't know the specimens I wonder are those subfossil remains? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T03:17:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z"></span>The subfossils are from earlier in the Holocene. It's been declared extinct as of 1996.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T03:17:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T03:17:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T03:17:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:58:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span>So I wonder if it is a species only known from subfossils <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:04, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z-When_did_the_Tongan_Ground_Skink_went_extinct?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T15:22:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z"></span>The fact that the type specimens are two dead skinks in formaldehyde demonstrates your claim of them known only from subfossils to be <i>false</i>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T15:22:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T15:22:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T15:22:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T12:04:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_just_found_something_weird" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_just_found_something_weird-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_just_found_something_weird-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"></span>I just found something weird<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_just_found_something_weird-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: I just found something weird"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z-I_just_found_something_weird"></span>I heard someone say that Euleiognathus, Ikiculter, Coreoperca maruoi, Genypterus valdesensis, Abruzzoichthys, and Aethesia wasn't mentioned in the page xxx in paleontology because they are not registered by ICZN but I found subsequent papers mentioning them (those include papers by other authors), and there is a page called Aethesia. So what's your opinion, in my opinion it's safe that I create pages like Abruzzoichthys and Ikiculter. And I saw illustrations of them made by you. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z-I_just_found_something_weird" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:53, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z-I_just_found_something_weird"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z-I_just_found_something_weird"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T02:57:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"></span>The ICZN is not complete, and sure, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Be_Bold" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Be Bold">WP:Be Bold</a>, create those pages. The very worst that can happen is that they'll be deleted and remade later.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T02:57:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T02:57:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T02:57:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-11T02:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Corbicula_fluminea" data-mw-thread-id="h-Corbicula_fluminea-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Corbicula_fluminea-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"></span><i>Corbicula fluminea</i><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Corbicula_fluminea-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Corbicula fluminea"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z-Corbicula_fluminea"></span>I guess I didn't think it was a grievous error. Your change looks better, but it didn't look <i>grievous</i>ly bad. <a href="/wiki/User:Invasive_Spices" title="User:Invasive Spices">Invasive Spices</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Invasive_Spices" title="User talk:Invasive Spices">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z-Corbicula_fluminea" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:42, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z-Corbicula_fluminea"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z-Corbicula_fluminea"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T22:49:00.000Z-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"></span>I refer to it as "grievious," in the taxobox, short description and italic title templates all go at the top of the article's html stuff, and that having them below the lede is like having the title page and contents of the book after chapter one.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T22:49:00.000Z-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:49, 11 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T22:49:00.000Z-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-11T22:49:00.000Z-Invasive_Spices-2021-02-11T22:42:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="hello_apokryitaros" data-mw-thread-id="h-hello_apokryitaros-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hello_apokryitaros-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z"></span>hello apokryitaros<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hello_apokryitaros-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: hello apokryitaros"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mariothecoolpumbler-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z-hello_apokryitaros"></span>thanks for reverting the sock edits, but the additions were referenced, so i added them back, feel free to check them in case theres any errors. <a href="/wiki/User:Mariothecoolpumbler" title="User:Mariothecoolpumbler">Mariothecoolpumbler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mariothecoolpumbler" title="User talk:Mariothecoolpumbler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Mariothecoolpumbler-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z-hello_apokryitaros" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mariothecoolpumbler-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z-hello_apokryitaros"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mariothecoolpumbler-2021-02-17T15:47:00.000Z-hello_apokryitaros"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_the_Miocene_Bonito" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_the_Miocene_Bonito-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_the_Miocene_Bonito-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"></span>About the Miocene Bonito<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_the_Miocene_Bonito-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: About the Miocene Bonito"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z-About_the_Miocene_Bonito"></span>The species Sarda stockii is known from California. The page Sarda chilensis says it's a synonym as well as a 1975 book I found in Google Books. But several later studies indicates that it's a distinct prehistoric species including the descriptions of Scomber gnarus and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/260109">here</a>. So by your opinion if it's ok to leave it as a distinct species? <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z-About_the_Miocene_Bonito" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z-About_the_Miocene_Bonito"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z-About_the_Miocene_Bonito"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-18T04:42:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"></span>I would leave it as a distinct species, as no one apparently took the synonymization seriously.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-18T04:42:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-18T04:42:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-02-18T04:42:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-02-18T03:09:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z"></span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Insect_incertae_sedis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Insect incertae sedis (page does not exist)">Category:Insect incertae sedis</a> has been nominated for renaming<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: Category:Insect incertae sedis has been nominated for renaming"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div><p><b><a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Insect_incertae_sedis&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Insect incertae sedis (page does not exist)">Category:Insect incertae sedis</a></b> has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorization" title="Wikipedia:Categorization">categorization</a> guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_February_28#Category:Insect_incertae_sedis" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 February 28">the category's entry</a></b> on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">categories for discussion</a> page. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User:1234qwer1234qwer4">𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:1234qwer1234qwer4" title="User talk:1234qwer1234qwer4">𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-1234qwer1234qwer4-2021-02-28T14:21:00.000Z-Category:Insect_incertae_sedis_has_been_nominated_for_renaming"></span> </p><div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"><span id="Thank_you.2C_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"></span>Thank you, from one Placoderm fan to another<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Thank you, from one Placoderm fan to another"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another"></span>I’m always amazed at how nearly every placoderm ever described has been illustrated by you. I can’t imagine how long that must have taken! Your wonderfully colorful artwork is actually what got me into drawing these fish and also what ultimately drove me to become a Wikipedian. Thanks for being such a wonderful member of the paleoart community for so long! :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">Entelognathus</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z-Thank_you,_from_one_Placoderm_fan_to_another"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-15T13:19:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"></span>Thank you very much for such generously kind words, it's much appreciated. I guess I should stop dragging my feet and get to work on an article for the newly described freshwater selenosteid <i><a href="/wiki/Bulongosteus" title="Bulongosteus">Bulongosteus</a></i>, then.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-15T13:19:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:19, 15 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-15T13:19:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-15T13:19:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-03-15T04:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum" data-mw-thread-id="h-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"><span id="Um.2C_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"></span>Um, sorry for accidentally using a wiki talk page as a forum<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Um, sorry for accidentally using a wiki talk page as a forum"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum"></span>I know you and I probably disagree, but I'm glad you reverted me and did so professionally.--<a href="/wiki/User:Phil_of_rel" title="User:Phil of rel">Phil of rel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Phil_of_rel" title="User talk:Phil of rel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:15, 24 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z-Um,_sorry_for_accidentally_using_a_wiki_talk_page_as_a_forum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T02:24:00.000Z-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your understanding. It is greatly appreciated.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T02:24:00.000Z-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T02:24:00.000Z-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T02:24:00.000Z-Phil_of_rel-2021-03-24T02:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Asking_for_an_expert" data-mw-thread-id="h-Asking_for_an_expert-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Asking_for_an_expert-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"></span>Asking for an expert<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Asking_for_an_expert-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Asking for an expert"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z-Asking_for_an_expert"></span>Any of this any use? <a class="external free" href="https://fist.toolforge.org/wd4wp/#/enwiki/20/23038290image">https://fist.toolforge.org/wd4wp/#/enwiki/20/23038290image</a> </p><p>I'm struggling with latin etc. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:RogerNiceEyes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:RogerNiceEyes (page does not exist)">RogerNiceEyes</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RogerNiceEyes" title="User talk:RogerNiceEyes">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z-Asking_for_an_expert" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 24 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z-Asking_for_an_expert"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z-Asking_for_an_expert"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T16:35:00.000Z-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"></span>I don't know how to use that tool, sorry.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T16:35:00.000Z-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:35, 24 March 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T16:35:00.000Z-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-03-24T16:35:00.000Z-RogerNiceEyes-2021-03-24T16:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Spix's_macaw" data-mw-thread-id="h-Spix's_macaw-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"><span id="Spix.27s_macaw"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Spix's_macaw-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"></span>Spix's macaw<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Spix's_macaw-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: Spix's macaw"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z-Spix's_macaw"></span>Any particular reason why you reverted me on <a href="/wiki/Spix%27s_macaw" title="Spix's macaw">Spix's macaw</a>? Just curious. <a href="/wiki/User:Ddum5347" title="User:Ddum5347">Ddum5347</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ddum5347" title="User talk:Ddum5347">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z-Spix's_macaw" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:44, 19 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z-Spix's_macaw"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z-Spix's_macaw"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"></span>My apologies, force of habit from having to revert well-meaning, but misinformed edits coming to say *every* blue macaw is extinct or some other (insert conservation status here) solely because they read some buzzfeed mirror.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:58, 19 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-19T01:58:00.000Z-Ddum5347-2021-04-19T01:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Of_matters_nominative" data-mw-thread-id="h-Of_matters_nominative-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Of_matters_nominative-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z"></span>Of matters nominative<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Of_matters_nominative-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: Of matters nominative"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z-Of_matters_nominative"></span>I found it weird seeing you in the Cnidaria talk page as "Mr. Fink" because ... that's my actual legal name. <a href="/wiki/User:IAmNitpicking" title="User:IAmNitpicking">IAmNitpicking</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:IAmNitpicking" title="User talk:IAmNitpicking">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z-Of_matters_nominative" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:42, 26 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z-Of_matters_nominative"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z-Of_matters_nominative"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-26T02:52:00.000Z-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z"></span>That's also my legal name, too: I put it as my signature because I got sick and tired of people not being able to copy and paste "Apokryltaros" in replying on talkpages.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-26T02:52:00.000Z-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-04-26T02:52:00.000Z-IAmNitpicking-2021-04-26T02:42:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?"></span>Hi! I recently got a new fossil in my collection of the lower Devonian osteostracan <i>Wladysagitta,</i> and I noticed there's no article for it on here, so I cranked out a draft. I've never created an article myself before and I'm not entirely certain I did everything right, so I'd really appreciate if you could look over it real quick and see if everything is in order. <a href="/wiki/Draft:Wladysagitta" class="mw-redirect" title="Draft:Wladysagitta">Here's the link to it</a>. Thanks so much for your help! :) <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">Entelognathus</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z-New_osteostracan_draft--could_you_take_a_look?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-01T17:59:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span>What you have so far is great. I dare say it's ready to be promoted to full article.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-01T17:59:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 1 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-01T17:59:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-01T17:59:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-05-01T17:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bagarius_gigas_age" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bagarius_gigas_age-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bagarius_gigas_age-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z"></span>Bagarius gigas age<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bagarius_gigas_age-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: Bagarius gigas age"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z-Bagarius_gigas_age"></span>Bagarius gigas (Gunther) is described from Indonesia the fossil age is interpreted as Eocene but later doubted, thisLook at this, suggests that B. gigas is a Pleistocene species but the study isn't included in the 2020 in paleoichthyology page and it doesn't say much about Bagarius gigas but they gave an fossil image for us.<span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) </span> </p> <dl><dd>It's a part of the Sipang fauna, originally thought to be "Eocene," but maybe Miocene or Pleistocene-aged due to the species being very similar to modern fishes.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z-Bagarius_gigas_age" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z-Bagarius_gigas_age"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-05-13T05:21:00.000Z-Bagarius_gigas_age"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"></span>Hello<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Hello"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hello"></span>I just wanted to say your art is gorgeous and it does a great job of brightening up wikipedia pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Firewing_The_Wyvern" title="User:Firewing The Wyvern">Firewing The Wyvern</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firewing_The_Wyvern" title="User talk:Firewing The Wyvern">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hello" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:59, 10 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hello"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z-Hello"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-10T19:24:00.000Z-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"></span>Thank you very much for the kind words!--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-10T19:24:00.000Z-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-10T19:24:00.000Z-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-10T19:24:00.000Z-Firewing_The_Wyvern-2021-06-10T18:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit" data-mw-thread-id="h-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"></span>Problematic reversion of the link edit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: Problematic reversion of the link edit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Elephas_beyeri" title="Elephas beyeri">Elephas beyeri</a>, I edited the redirection of elephas namadicus towards the genus Elephas as Elephas namadicus has no real page. You could see here in this paper that both animals were excavated in the Namarda alluvial deposits hence their names. The Elephas and Palaeoloxodon connection of being a subgenus of another was changed back in 2007 <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2007.02.003">https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2007.02.003</a>. It is erroneous to redirect Elephas namadicus to a different elephantid altogether. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Artemesiagentile&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Artemesiagentile (page does not exist)">Artemesiagentile</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Artemesiagentile#top" title="User talk:Artemesiagentile">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Artemesiagentile" title="Special:Contributions/Artemesiagentile">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 14 June 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z-Problematic_reversion_of_the_link_edit"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Artemesiagentile&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Artemesiagentile (page does not exist)">Artemesiagentile</a>:</span>, except that, as according to all of the refs in <i><a href="/wiki/Palaeoloxodon_namadicus" title="Palaeoloxodon namadicus">Palaeoloxodon namadicus</a></i>, most authorities still treat it as a species of <i><a href="/wiki/Palaeoloxodon" title="Palaeoloxodon">Palaeoloxodon</a></i>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 14 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T17:31:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T18:10:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z"></span>I see, thanks for making that clear. I just see this confusing as I have been reading recent papers and that they still cite E. namadicus instead of P. namadicus (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2012.02.025">https://doi.org/10.1016/j.quaint.2012.02.025</a>). Also, the National Museum of the Philippines itself refers E. namadicus as E. namadicus while also citing a possible presence of a Palaeoloxodon sp. during the Pleistocene. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Artemesiagentile&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Artemesiagentile (page does not exist)">Artemesiagentile</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Artemesiagentile" title="User talk:Artemesiagentile">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T18:10:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 14 June 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T18:10:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Artemesiagentile-2021-06-14T18:10:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-06-14T17:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_account's_lock" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_account's_lock-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"><span id="My_account.27s_lock"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_account's_lock-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span>My account's lock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_account's_lock-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: My account's lock"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z-My_account's_lock"></span>Hello Apokryltaros. </p><p>I am the Wikipedia user formerly known as "Carcharodontosaurid" and "AllosaurusfragilisEntertainment".I have made Wikipedia articles regarding Paleontological subjects since 3 years now. I have also edited and added some information on both my country's wikipedia (Germany) and the English one to this day. After a lot of time, my articles got better, because I listened to advice from my colleagues many times and also tried to get better when working with scientific papers. However, approximately 3 months ago,some people discussed about me on German Wikipedia, because some of the articles weren't good. During that discussion, I released another article, not knowing that this must not be done during such a discussion. As a result, an administrator blocked me from doing any more articles or edits, because I did " a lot of inadequate articles not suitable for Wikipedia" and because I was " absolutely resistent to advice". Later, another administrator has told me that my account can possibly be unlocked or that my locking could get changed if the article drafts I do show signs of improvement. As of now, this is the case. There were wikipedia users from my country who pointed out that my drafts show some improvements. However, my account has not been unlocked yet despite the administrator I have talked to saying so. I really don't know what to do. That's why I am asking you for advice. I also have never been in a situation like this before and I'm not aware of what I can do on Wikipedia in general in such a case. I have done what was required for my account to get unlocked as told by the german admin, yet nothing has changed as of now. No one on the german Wikipedia has done anything, not even the Support for the german Wikipedia. Can I do anything to really get unlocked now? Can I receive some help since I did what I was asked to do for my account to get unlocked but were not unblocked? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ImperatorAllosaurus1997&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ImperatorAllosaurus1997 (page does not exist)">ImperatorAllosaurus1997</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ImperatorAllosaurus1997" title="User talk:ImperatorAllosaurus1997">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z-My_account's_lock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z-My_account's_lock"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z-My_account's_lock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span>I do not know what to do, as I am not an administrator. The most I can recommend would be to ask an administrator, such as, for example, <a href="/wiki/User:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User:NinjaRobotPirate">NinjaRobotPirate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User talk:NinjaRobotPirate">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NinjaRobotPirate" title="Special:Contributions/NinjaRobotPirate">contribs</a>)--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z"></span>This is at German Wikipedia, right? Sorry, I don't think I know any of the German Wikipedia admins. But, generally, someone has to actively request a review of the situation before there's a review, and each project does things differently. On English Wikipedia, you'd make an unblock request. Try doing that on German Wikipedia, and tell them what you said here. But make sure you look at the instructions first. <a href="/wiki/User:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User:NinjaRobotPirate">NinjaRobotPirate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User talk:NinjaRobotPirate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z-Apokryltaros-2021-08-17T23:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-18T22:00:00.000Z-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z"></span>Thank you for your advice. I have been looking up unblock requests now. If you mean <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Appealing_a_block" title="Wikipedia:Appealing a block">Wikipedia:Appealing a block</a>, I have already tried that some times, but nothing changed. I have done everything I could, but the administrators haven't unblocked me. No one on the german Wikipedia has helped me as of now. That's why I was asking you. If no one from the German Wikipedia project will help me, how can this problem be solved? Can I contact someone else? I have done what the administrators wanted- I improved my article drafts. They told me that my account could get unlocked or that my lock can be changed if my article drafts improve. That is what happened now. However, despite this, my account being unlocked is nowhere in sight. I have done what I was asked for, but I didn't receive my account being unlocked for that yet as I was told. When I asked the administrator who told me that, she didn't reply to me in days. I have tried everything on the German Wikipedia, but no one has helped me. This is a special situation and I need some help. If no one from my wiki is unlocking my account despite me having done what I was asked for, can I contact someone more powerful on Wikipedia in general to help me out? --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:ImperatorAllosaurus1997&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:ImperatorAllosaurus1997 (page does not exist)">ImperatorAllosaurus1997</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ImperatorAllosaurus1997" title="User talk:ImperatorAllosaurus1997">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-18T22:00:00.000Z-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:00, 18 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-18T22:00:00.000Z-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ImperatorAllosaurus1997-2021-08-18T22:00:00.000Z-NinjaRobotPirate-2021-08-18T01:51:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"><span id="Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span>Aethaspis and Yujiangolepis?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: Aethaspis and Yujiangolepis?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?"></span>This might just be a quirk of the citation, but the sole source for the <i><a href="/wiki/Aethaspis" title="Aethaspis">Aethaspis</a></i> article now redirects to a paper on <i><a href="/wiki/Yujiangolepis" title="Yujiangolepis">Yujiangolepis</a></i>; the title is the same, just the generic name is different. I can't make heads nor tails of this; is this implying <i>Aethaspis</i> is a synonym for <i>Yujiangolepis</i>? Do you know what the deal with this is? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">Entelognathus</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Entelognathus&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Entelognathus (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 9 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z-Aethaspis_and_Yujiangolepis?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-09T20:12:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span>I'm not sure, but I do know that it and the title of this mysteriously redirected mystery paper has it misspelled as "Aethapsis"--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-09T20:12:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-09T20:12:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-09T20:12:00.000Z-Entelognathus-2021-09-09T19:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dingo_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dingo_edits-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dingo_edits-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"></span>Dingo edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dingo_edits-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: Dingo edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z-Dingo_edits"></span>In my edits im trying to state that the dingo has replaced Thylacoleo, I'm just saying that it is the only terrestrial apex predator left in Australia. It's the same niche. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.236.64.165" title="Special:Contributions/192.236.64.165">192.236.64.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:192.236.64.165" title="User talk:192.236.64.165">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z-Dingo_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 27 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z-Dingo_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z-Dingo_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-27T18:58:00.000Z-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"></span>What you are trying to do is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS">WP:SYNTHESIS</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-27T18:58:00.000Z-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-27T18:58:00.000Z-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-09-27T18:58:00.000Z-192.236.64.165-2021-09-27T18:37:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_those_"synonyms"" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_those_"synonyms"-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"><span id="About_those_.22synonyms.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_those_"synonyms"-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"></span>About those "synonyms"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_those_"synonyms"-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: About those "synonyms""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z-About_those_"synonyms""></span>Chinlechelys' study in this year is cool, but in a 2017 review by Joyce places the taxa as a synonym. The authors of the Chinlechelys this year retains the taxa as distinct. But there are some questions I had about synonyms: </p><p>Guarinisuchus is made as a synonym by Jouve in 2019 and 2020, but other authors did not support this , such as the Brachiosuchus paper this year. Although it has been mentioned by the same authors twice but I can say it's not a definite synonym. </p><p>Berruchelus was placed into Compsemys by Joyce (2019)'s review, I saw many of the fossil turtle reviews by Joyce and Vlachos placing Notoemys again in Caribemys and some taxa such as Rhinoclemmys nicoyana, Emydoidea hutchisoni, Trachemys inflata and Pseudemys hibbardi to be nomen dubium, although the diagnostic traits is published in their original papers. A user merged Berruchelus and Caribemys. I think I cannot surely believe those reviews so I can say that Caribemys and Berruchelus is not definite synonyms although Joyce puts Berruchelus into Compsemys twice, as well as I can split back those pages. And I can also say that the above Emydidae taxa that is disputed by Vlachos' reviews is not sure, that we can still say that the above taxa is valid for now. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z-About_those_"synonyms"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z-About_those_"synonyms""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z-About_those_"synonyms""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-10-08T05:06:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"></span>I would probably recommend splitting the pages back. Perhaps ask FunkMonk for additional advice before doing that, though.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-10-08T05:06:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:06, 8 October 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-10-08T05:06:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2021-10-08T05:06:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2021-10-08T04:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_soapboxer_at_Bird" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_soapboxer_at_Bird-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_soapboxer_at_Bird-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z"></span>The soapboxer at <a href="/wiki/Bird" title="Bird">Bird</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_soapboxer_at_Bird-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: The soapboxer at Bird"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z-The_soapboxer_at_Bird"></span>I think it's time to take this guy to ANI. <i><a href="/wiki/User:Lythronaxargestes" title="User:Lythronaxargestes">Lythronaxargestes</a></i> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lythronaxargestes#top" title="User talk:Lythronaxargestes">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lythronaxargestes" title="Special:Contributions/Lythronaxargestes">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z-The_soapboxer_at_Bird" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z-The_soapboxer_at_Bird"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z-The_soapboxer_at_Bird"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2021-11-27T05:17:00.000Z-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z"></span>Given his blatant uncivility, adherence to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ICANTHEARYOU">WP:ICANTHEARYOU</a> while misusing the talkpage, I've already reported him <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1057361119">here</a>--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2021-11-27T05:17:00.000Z-Lythronaxargestes-2021-11-27T05:13:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:17, 27 November 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" 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You are invited to comment on the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2021_December_13#Template:Selenosteidae" title="Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 December 13">the entry on the Templates for discussion page</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Jonesey95-2021-12-13T02:25:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Selenosteidae" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-2021-12-13T02:25:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Selenosteidae"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-2021-12-13T02:25:00.000Z-Nomination_for_deletion_of_Template:Selenosteidae"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"></span>About some taxonomic changes in papers<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: About some taxonomic changes in papers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"></span>The page of Amsterdam wigeon in Wikipedia is classified as Mareca marecula, this was done on IOC bird list's taxonomic updates on following Gonzalez's study of ducks classifying Anas as paraphyletic, with the wigeons classified in Mareca along with the Amsterdam wigeon on the bird list. But IOC transferred the genus without a study, and Wikipedia bird taxonomy on birds listed on IOC always updates with taxonomic updates, and we cannot say no to IOC because IOC is the boss. </p><p>Wikipedia's page Aratinga vorohuensis is originally named as Nandayus vorohuensis, but the page was moved to Aratinga vorohuensis without a study too. The reason why the movement was made is because Nandayus is found to be a synonym of Aratinga, although there are some papers after the study of Nandayus being found as a synonym still classifying Nandayus as distinct. If we change the page again the taxonomy will be a mess again. </p><p>I think the Armbruster's wolf (Canis armbrusteri) should be changed to Aenocyon armbrusteri in the page because so far I only know Canis armbrusteri is the ancestor of the dire wolf. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:33, 11 January 2022 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-01-11T17:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"></span>The Armbruster's wolf sees more traffic than that Aratinga article, I would either wait, or ask for a consensus at the article's talkpage, first.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2022-01-11T17:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 11 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-01-11T17:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2022-01-11T17:19:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-11T13:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-12T23:41:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"></span>I am still weird of why some ornithologist in the 2010s and the 2020s still classifying Nandayus as distinct and still considering Grus as Monophyletic. <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-12T23:41:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:41, 12 January 2022 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-12T23:41:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-01-12T23:41:00.000Z-About_some_taxonomic_changes_in_papers"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apologies" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apologies-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apologies-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Apologies<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apologies-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: Apologies"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z-Apologies"></span>Hello sir. I'm not sure you remember me, but I'm rulerofprehistory on deviantart. I came to apologize for what happened a few years back, and as well as for your forgiveness and to unblock me if you can. I was hesitant to write this message for a while, given that I was anxious and fearful that you might misinterpret my actions. But I thought it might be alright to ask you anyway. </p><p>I don't even remember why you blocked me, though I assume it was from the questions I asked, which were about proposing some species you could draw, though I probably phrased it by asking hesitantly a couple times. I just hope you know where I'm coming from. Getting blocked by a celebrity was never something I ever intended to do in my life. So if you can, could you please unblock me? Don't worry, I won't message you, and I'll give you space. Believe me when I say that I feel pretty bad about pushing you. <a href="/wiki/User:Firekong1" title="User:Firekong1">Firekong1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firekong1" title="User talk:Firekong1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z-Apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z-Apologies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z-Apologies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T04:24:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"></span>Since you asked and apologized, I'll unblock you as per your request.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T04:24:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T04:24:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T04:24:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T03:54:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z-Apologies"></span>Thank you sir. By the way, have you ever taken suggestions for species to draw? If not, that's fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Firekong1" title="User:Firekong1">Firekong1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firekong1" title="User talk:Firekong1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z-Apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z-Apologies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z-Apologies"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T15:22:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z"></span>I have, but, I've not been in the mood to accept suggestions since the last recipient repaid me by scolding and whining about how I didn't make <i>Alopias grandis</i> big as Megalodon despite following the paper's parameters to the letter, and then followed that up with constant badgering to have me illustrate his original research project for free.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T15:22:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:22, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T15:22:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2022-02-16T15:22:00.000Z-Firekong1-2022-02-16T11:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T16:58:00.000Z-Apologies"></span>Understandable. I hope I didn't sound annoying. If you ever need suggestions, feel free to contact me if you'd like. There are thousands of pages here that could use your illustrations. <a href="/wiki/User:Firekong1" title="User:Firekong1">Firekong1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firekong1" title="User talk:Firekong1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T16:58:00.000Z-Apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T16:58:00.000Z-Apologies"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Firekong1-2022-02-16T16:58:00.000Z-Apologies"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Congratulations!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Congratulations!-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z"><span id="Congratulations.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Congratulations!-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z"></span>Congratulations!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Congratulations!-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: Congratulations!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z-Congratulations!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Kitten-stare.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Kitten-stare.jpg/150px-Kitten-stare.jpg" decoding="async" width="150" height="113" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Kitten-stare.jpg/225px-Kitten-stare.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/Kitten-stare.jpg/300px-Kitten-stare.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2048" data-file-height="1536"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Congratulations! You have earned a kitten! You have earned this kitten because you're a very good person! Make sure to take care of it! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:MasterWolf0928-%C3%86thelwulf" title="User:MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf">MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MasterWolf0928-%C3%86thelwulf" title="User talk:MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z-Congratulations!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:22, 24 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z-Congratulations!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MasterWolf0928-Æthelwulf-2022-03-24T13:22:00.000Z-Congratulations!"></span> <br style="clear: both;"/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"><span id="What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"></span>What does this say about Tusoteuthis?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: What does this say about Tusoteuthis?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?"></span>Heard about Tusoteuthis being a nomen dubium, so I am interested to learn more about it. </p><p>A post on Deviantart cited <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://Https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334084131%20The%20Muensterelloidea%20-%20Phylogeny%20and%20character%20evolution%20of%20Mesozoic%20stem-octopods">this</a> regarding Tusoteuthis as a nomen dubium. Because I cannot get access to the full paper so I it is pretty interesting to know how the paper regards it and more… <span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus#top" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus" title="Special:Contributions/Huinculsaurus">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:46, 31 March 2022 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z-What_does_this_say_about_Tusoteuthis?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><i><a href="/wiki/Tusoteuthis" title="Tusoteuthis"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-03-31T05:56:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"></span>Tusoteuthis</a></i> is not a nomen dubium, <i>T. cobbani</i> was moved to <i><a href="/wiki/Enchoteuthis" title="Enchoteuthis">Enchoteuthis</a></i>--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-2022-03-31T05:56:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-2022-03-31T05:56:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-2022-03-31T05:56:00.000Z-Huinculsaurus-2022-03-31T05:46:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z"><span id="A_barnstar_for_you.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z"></span>A barnstar for you!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Volten001-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">For your efforts in handling vandalism... Keep it going! <a href="/wiki/User:Volten001" title="User:Volten001"><span style="color:orange"><i><b>Volten</b></i></span><span style="color:#00FF40">001</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Volten001" title="User talk:Volten001"><b style="color:tomato">☎</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Volten001-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:04, 19 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Volten001-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Volten001-2022-04-19T21:04:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users" data-mw-thread-id="h-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users-20220730033500"><span id="I.27m_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users-20220730033500"></span>I'm getting tired of anonymous users<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users-20220730033500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: I'm getting tired of anonymous users"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users"></span>I did notice the latest change of the page <a href="/wiki/Carcharodontosaurus" title="Carcharodontosaurus">Carcharodontosaurus</a> and <a href="/wiki/Jobaria" title="Jobaria">Jobaria</a> by an anonymous user, but all he done is to misplace the age to the age not supported by any recent scientifc study. </p><p>When someone warns him about wrecking pages, all he replied has no shame. We have to be more discreet with vandalism and assertions like what I said about <a href="/wiki/Tusoteuthis" title="Tusoteuthis">Tusoteuthis</a> being invalid by enthusiasts only. <a href="/wiki/User:Huinculsaurus" title="User:Huinculsaurus">Huinculsaurus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Huinculsaurus" title="User talk:Huinculsaurus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:35, 30 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500-I'm_getting_tired_of_anonymous_users"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20220730035000-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500"></span>Revert, warn, block and observe if different IPs have the same editing habits to see if we're dealing with long-term-abuse IP-hoppers.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20220730035000-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:50, 30 July 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20220730035000-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20220730035000-Huinculsaurus-20220730033500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Megafauna" data-mw-thread-id="h-Megafauna-20220807210100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Megafauna-20220807210100"></span>Megafauna<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Megafauna-20220807210100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: Megafauna"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JBW-20220807210100-Megafauna"></span>I've seen your message to me on an IP talk page beginning "Unfortunately, I know from personal experience that the Megafauna Man Vandal doesn't not read any messages..." That is exactly what I thought, but it seemI might as well post my message anyway, on the extremely remote chance they might see it. <a href="/wiki/User:JBW" title="User:JBW">JBW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JBW" title="User talk:JBW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-JBW-20220807210100-Megafauna" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 7 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JBW-20220807210100-Megafauna"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JBW-20220807210100-Megafauna"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Siberian_tiger" data-mw-thread-id="h-Siberian_tiger-20220830185700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Siberian_tiger-20220830185700"></span>Siberian tiger<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Siberian_tiger-20220830185700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Siberian tiger"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-195.120.173.18-20220830201400-Siberian_tiger"></span>I'm sorry to bother, could you edit the Siberian Tiger page with it's population status? I know it's not classified as a Distinct subspecies anymore, but it's population status is still present on the IUCN page <sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup> here's the source and the page. I'm not able to edit since the page is blocked. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.120.173.18" title="Special:Contributions/195.120.173.18">195.120.173.18</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:195.120.173.18#top" title="User talk:195.120.173.18">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-195.120.173.18-20220830201400-Siberian_tiger" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 30 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-195.120.173.18-20220830201400-Siberian_tiger"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-195.120.173.18-20220830201400-Siberian_tiger"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20220830185700-195.120.173.18-20220830201400"></span>You appear to have already done a good job with that as is, in my opinion.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20220830185700-195.120.173.18-20220830201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20220830185700-195.120.173.18-20220830201400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20220830185700-195.120.173.18-20220830201400"></span></dd></dl> <style 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id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><b><a href="#cite_ref-1">^</a></b></span> <span class="reference-text"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon 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.citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite class="citation web cs1"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/15956/5333650">"Amur Tiger"</a>. <i>iucnredlist.org</i>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=unknown&rft.jtitle=iucnredlist.org&rft.atitle=Amur+Tiger&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iucnredlist.org%2Fspecies%2F15956%2F5333650&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3AApokryltaros" class="Z3988"></span></span> </li> </ol></div></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Contact" data-mw-thread-id="h-Contact-20221024230400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Contact-20221024230400"></span>Contact<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Contact-20221024230400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: Contact"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400-Contact"></span>Hi Apokryltaros - I am passing along a request for interview from an author working on a book about Wikipedia. Would you be able to email me with a contact email? </p><p><br/> <a href="/wiki/User:Themarblemiracle" title="User:Themarblemiracle">Themarblemiracle</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Themarblemiracle&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Themarblemiracle (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400-Contact" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 24 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400-Contact"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400-Contact"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20221024234200-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400"></span>Sure, then. Who's the author? <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20221024234200-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:42, 24 October 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20221024234200-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20221024234200-Themarblemiracle-20221024230400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios" data-mw-thread-id="h-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios-20221208114200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios-20221208114200"></span>DeviantArt uploads and other copyvios<span data-mw-comment-end="h-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios-20221208114200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: DeviantArt uploads and other copyvios"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Larrayal-20221208114200-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios"></span>Hi, @<a href="/wiki/User:Ta-tea-two-te-to" title="User:Ta-tea-two-te-to">Ta-tea-two-te-to</a> has notified me yesterday on Discord about an uploader of mainly Precambrian images on the Commons, @<a href="/wiki/User:Rugoconites_Tenuirugosus" title="User:Rugoconites Tenuirugosus">Rugoconites Tenuirugosus</a>, posting several images not respecting the appropriate licenses. Among them seems to be several examples of your work on DeviantArt, so we've estimated better to contact you first before starting their own deletion. Here is the upload page <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Rugoconites_Tenuirugosus">[5]</a>, and here's the deletion request <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Uploads_by_Rugoconites_Tenuirugosus">[6]</a>, although some of them might be cropped from other images published here. <a href="/wiki/User:Larrayal" title="User:Larrayal">Larrayal</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Larrayal" title="User talk:Larrayal">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Larrayal-20221208114200-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:42, 8 December 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Larrayal-20221208114200-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Larrayal-20221208114200-DeviantArt_uploads_and_other_copyvios"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-20230102172000"><span id="Happy_New_Year.2C_Apokryltaros.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-20230102172000"></span>Happy New Year, Apokryltaros!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-20230102172000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: Happy New Year, Apokryltaros!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="border: 3px solid #FFD700; background-color: #FFFAF0; padding:0.2em 0.4em; height:auto; min-height:173px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!"></span><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif/212px-Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif" decoding="async" width="212" height="173" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif/318px-Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Fuochi_d%27artificio.gif 2x" data-file-width="352" data-file-height="288"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><figure class="mw-default-size mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Happy_new_year_01.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/177px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png" decoding="async" width="177" height="173" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/266px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Happy_new_year_01.svg/354px-Happy_new_year_01.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="1317" data-file-height="1288"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <div class="paragraphbreak" style="margin-top:0.5em"></div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><span style="font-size:179%;"><i><b><a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">Happy New Year</a>!</b></i></span></div> <p><b>Apokryltaros</b>,<br/>Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable <a href="/wiki/New_Year" title="New Year">New Year</a>, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. <br/><span style="color: blue">—</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Moops" title="User:Moops"><span style="color: green">Moops</span></a> <sup><span style="font-size:80%">⋠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moops" title="User talk:Moops"><span style="color: indigo"><b>T</b></span></a>⋡</span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!"></span><br/><br/> </p> </div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-1"></span> <i><span style="font-size:88%;">Send New Year cheer by adding {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Happy_New_Year_fireworks" title="Template:Happy New Year fireworks">subst:Happy New Year fireworks</a>}} to user talk pages.</span></i> </p> <div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <p><span style="color: blue">—</span> <a href="/wiki/User:Moops" title="User:Moops"><span style="color: green">Moops</span></a> <sup><span style="font-size:80%">⋠<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Moops" title="User talk:Moops"><span style="color: indigo"><b>T</b></span></a>⋡</span></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 2 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Moops-20230102172000-Happy_New_Year,_Apokryltaros!-1"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dinomarek-20230222145000-Moops-20230102172000"></span>How to improve the wikipedia article about roasted dinosaurs? Primitive feather types <a href="/wiki/User:Dinomarek" title="User:Dinomarek">Dinomarek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dinomarek" title="User talk:Dinomarek">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Dinomarek-20230222145000-Moops-20230102172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dinomarek-20230222145000-Moops-20230102172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dinomarek-20230222145000-Moops-20230102172000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kuru-20230223012400-Dinomarek-20230222145000"></span>So close to <a href="/wiki/Haiku" title="Haiku">haiku</a>, maybe <a href="/wiki/Senry%C5%AB" title="Senryū">Senryū</a>? <dl><dd>Improve the article</dd> <dd>roasted dinosaurs?</dd> <dd>Primitive feather types</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Love it! <i><a href="/wiki/User:Kuru" title="User:Kuru">Sam <b>Kuru</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kuru" title="User talk:Kuru">(talk)</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Kuru-20230223012400-Dinomarek-20230222145000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 23 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kuru-20230223012400-Dinomarek-20230222145000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kuru-20230223012400-Dinomarek-20230222145000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revdel" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revdel-20230721000900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revdel-20230721000900"></span>Revdel<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revdel-20230721000900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: Revdel"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900-Revdel"></span>I doubt anyone's going to see it, and I'm not sure it's overt enough to qualify. But, yeah, I did a range block that should stop the disruption. <a href="/wiki/User:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User:NinjaRobotPirate">NinjaRobotPirate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NinjaRobotPirate" title="User talk:NinjaRobotPirate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900-Revdel" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:09, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900-Revdel"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900-Revdel"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20230721003700-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900"></span>That works, too. Thank you.--<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20230721003700-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20230721003700-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20230721003700-NinjaRobotPirate-20230721000900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book" data-mw-thread-id="h-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book-20230826000400"><span id="Korwin_Briggs_.22Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World.22_book"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book-20230826000400"></span>Korwin Briggs "Gods and Heroes: Mythology Around the World" book<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book-20230826000400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Korwin Briggs "Gods and Heroes: Mythology Around the World" book"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yuliadhi-20230826000400-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book"></span>Hello, Apokryltaros Have you ever been uploaded "Gods and Heroes: Mythology Around the World" book by Korwin Briggs published by Workman Publishing to Internet Archive (archive.org)? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Yuliadhi&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Yuliadhi (page does not exist)">Yuliadhi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yuliadhi" title="User talk:Yuliadhi">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Yuliadhi-20230826000400-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:04, 26 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yuliadhi-20230826000400-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yuliadhi-20230826000400-Korwin_Briggs_"Gods_and_Heroes:_Mythology_Around_the_World"_book"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20230826015200-Yuliadhi-20230826000400"></span>No, mostly because I don't know how to upload to the Internet Archive. Have you tried making a formal request at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request">WikiProject_Resource_Exchange</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20230826015200-Yuliadhi-20230826000400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 26 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20230826015200-Yuliadhi-20230826000400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20230826015200-Yuliadhi-20230826000400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Valentine" data-mw-thread-id="h-Valentine-20231017153500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Valentine-20231017153500"></span>Valentine<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Valentine-20231017153500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=68" title="Edit section: Valentine"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500-Valentine"></span>Why would you include Valentine I know it's a slasher film but still it's terrible. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6" title="Special:Contributions/2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6">2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500-Valentine" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500-Valentine"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500-Valentine"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20231017154000-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500"></span>Matters of personal taste are irrelevant, as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_Research" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Original Research">WP:Original Research</a>, unless you have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOURCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOURCE">reliable sources</a> that would disqualify it on those grounds.<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20231017154000-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20231017154000-2600:387:F:6632:0:0:0:6-20231017153500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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I recently came across a paper describing <i>Squaloraja</i>, which included a life restoration. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://sisn.pagepress.org/index.php/nhs/article/view/642">[7]</a>. I have to say, I am impressed with how close your reconstruction is to that in the paper. <a href="/wiki/User:Hemiauchenia" title="User:Hemiauchenia">Hemiauchenia</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hemiauchenia" title="User talk:Hemiauchenia">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800-Squaloraja_reconstruction" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:58, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800-Squaloraja_reconstruction"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800-Squaloraja_reconstruction"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20231211214700-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800"></span>I think I will post my restoration of S. polyspondyla later, then. Thank you very much. <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20231211214700-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20231211214700-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20231211214700-Hemiauchenia-20231211205800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello!-20240420014600"><span id="Hello.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello!-20240420014600"></span>Hello!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello!-20240420014600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=71" title="Edit section: Hello!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600-Hello!"></span>Would you willing to be a reconstruction of Vericeras? Currently there is no photo for it. Link: <a href="/wiki/Vericeras" title="Vericeras">Vericeras</a> <a href="/wiki/User:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST" title="User:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST">SAYITWITHYOURCHEST</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST" title="User talk:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600-Hello!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600-Hello!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600-Hello!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20240420032900-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600"></span>Thank you for bringing it to my attention! I will get to work on it. At the very least, I will tidy the article up a bit. <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20240420032900-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20240420032900-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20240420032900-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240420014600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240421143800-Apokryltaros-20240420032900"></span>thank you so much! <a href="/wiki/User:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST" title="User:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST">SAYITWITHYOURCHEST</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST" title="User talk:SAYITWITHYOURCHEST">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240421143800-Apokryltaros-20240420032900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240421143800-Apokryltaros-20240420032900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SAYITWITHYOURCHEST-20240421143800-Apokryltaros-20240420032900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Precious_anniversary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Precious_anniversary-20240503065300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Precious_anniversary-20240503065300"></span>Precious anniversary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Precious_anniversary-20240503065300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=72" title="Edit section: Precious anniversary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240503065300-Precious_anniversary"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75); border-radius:0.5em;"><caption class="infobox-title">Precious</caption><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Frameless"><a href="/wiki/File:Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/120px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg" decoding="async" width="120" height="144" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/180px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1d/Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg/240px-Cornflower_blue_Yogo_sapphire.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1490" data-file-height="1792"/></a></span></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Precious#Apokryltaros" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious">Eight years!</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240503065300-Precious_anniversary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240503065300-Precious_anniversary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-20240503065300-Precious_anniversary"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?-20240720164700"><span id="Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?-20240720164700"></span>Would you be willing to add your Chengjiang Deuterostomes to the commons?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?-20240720164700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=73" title="Edit section: Would you be willing to add your Chengjiang Deuterostomes to the commons?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ixat_totep-20240720164700-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?"></span>The page on <a href="/wiki/Phlogites" title="Phlogites">Phlogites</a> currently shows an illustration of Cheungkongella as interpreted by Cheungkongella's discoverers: as a sea squirt. While some authors equate Cheungkongella with Phlogites, they do so by dismissing Cheungkongella's sea squirt affinities in favor of Phlogites longer tentacular form. The illustrations of Phlogites in your <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.deviantart.com/avancna/art/Chengjiang-Deuterostomes-101967625">Chengjiang Deuterstomes</a> image would help as I try to unravel the confusing disputes around Phlogites, Cheungkongella (which deserves its own page explaining the dispute), and Shankouclava. Thank you for all of your contributions! <a href="/wiki/User:Ixat_totep" title="User:Ixat totep">Ixat totep</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ixat_totep" title="User talk:Ixat totep">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Ixat_totep-20240720164700-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:47, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ixat_totep-20240720164700-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ixat_totep-20240720164700-Would_you_be_willing_to_add_your_Chengjiang_Deuterostomes_to_the_commons?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20240720205200-Ixat_totep-20240720164700"></span>Thank you! I've read those papers synonymizing Cheungkongella with Phlogites, and the crux of that argument is that the former is simply (allegedly) the latter with the characteristic tentacles retracted. It's why I always draw the two together. <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20240720205200-Ixat_totep-20240720164700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20240720205200-Ixat_totep-20240720164700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20240720205200-Ixat_totep-20240720164700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ixat_totep-20240721223500-Apokryltaros-20240720205200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Apokryltaros</a> thanks so much for the quick update!</dd> <dd>The more I read the more bizarre the dispute gets. Drawing them together is a reasonable response! The discoverers of both Cheungkongella (Shu) and Shankouclavis (Chen) have leveled similar accusations at each other of pooly preserved fossils and misinterpretations of tentacles, with one researcher (Simon Conway Morris in <i>Darwin's Dilemma: The Realities of the Cambrian 'Explosion'</i> ) who was not involved with either siding with Shu and expressing doubts regarding Shankouclavis.</dd> <dd>I've not been able to find a compelling argument equating Cheungkongell and Phlogites that does not come from either Chen or the team that wrote the "Phologites reconsidered" paper. But two members that team (Huo & Ma), writing in a much later textbook (<i>The Cambrian Fossils of Chengjiang, China- The Flowering of Early Animal Life, 2nd Edition</i>), noted that the assertion that Cheungkongella is the same as Phlogites is still disputed. Since Huo and Ma are willing to acknowledge as of 2017 that it's still under dispute, it seems worth keeping the possibility open. AFAICT the whole dispute is more about who gets to claim discovery of the earliest known Tunicate more than it is about interpreting the actual fossils. <a href="/wiki/User:Ixat_totep" title="User:Ixat totep">Ixat totep</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ixat_totep" title="User talk:Ixat totep">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Ixat_totep-20240721223500-Apokryltaros-20240720205200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ixat_totep-20240721223500-Apokryltaros-20240720205200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ixat_totep-20240721223500-Apokryltaros-20240720205200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20240722000700-Ixat_totep-20240721223500"></span>Indeed. To be honest, I'm tempted to think the earliest tunicates are Precambrian, like <a href="/wiki/Yarnemia" title="Yarnemia">Yarnemia</a> or <a href="/wiki/Ausia_fenestrata" title="Ausia fenestrata">Ausia fenestrata</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20240722000700-Ixat_totep-20240721223500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20240722000700-Ixat_totep-20240721223500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20240722000700-Ixat_totep-20240721223500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jamoytiiformes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jamoytiiformes-20240723012500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jamoytiiformes-20240723012500"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jamoytiiformes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jamoytiiformes (page does not exist)">Category:Jamoytiiformes</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jamoytiiformes-20240723012500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=74" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Jamoytiiformes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20240723012500-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Jamoytiiformes"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Jamoytiiformes&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Jamoytiiformes (page does not exist)">Category:Jamoytiiformes</a> indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a <a href="/wiki/Category:Disambiguation_categories" title="Category:Disambiguation categories">disambiguation category</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_soft_redirected_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories">category redirect</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_featured_topics_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia featured topics categories">featured topics category</a>, under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories for discussion</a>, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. 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As it is a stem-vertebrate (outside of the Agnatha?), I assumed <a href="/wiki/2024_in_paleontology" title="2024 in paleontology">2024 in paleontology</a>—where it was also added independently when the description was published—was the proper placement for it. Could you please explain? Thanks, -<a href="/wiki/User:SlvrHwk" title="User:SlvrHwk">SlvrHwk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SlvrHwk" title="User talk:SlvrHwk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-SlvrHwk-20240827154300-Re:_Nuucichthys" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:43, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SlvrHwk-20240827154300-Re:_Nuucichthys"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SlvrHwk-20240827154300-Re:_Nuucichthys"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20240827182400-SlvrHwk-20240827154300"></span>It's still a jawless vertebrate, which is a broad category of fishes. I mean, it's a gilled vertebrate that isn't descended from a tetrapod, as opposed to, say, <i>Vetulicola</i> or <i>Yunnanozoon</i>, which aren't vertebrates.<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20240827182400-SlvrHwk-20240827154300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20240827182400-SlvrHwk-20240827154300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20240827182400-SlvrHwk-20240827154300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SlvrHwk-20240827191600-Apokryltaros-20240827182400"></span>Thanks for the clarification. Regardless of classification, it should probably be placed on only one of the "2024 in..." pages. -<a href="/wiki/User:SlvrHwk" title="User:SlvrHwk">SlvrHwk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SlvrHwk" title="User talk:SlvrHwk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-SlvrHwk-20240827191600-Apokryltaros-20240827182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SlvrHwk-20240827191600-Apokryltaros-20240827182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SlvrHwk-20240827191600-Apokryltaros-20240827182400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Hyperoartia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Hyperoartia-20241016215100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Hyperoartia-20241016215100"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Hyperoartia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Hyperoartia (page does not exist)">Category:Hyperoartia</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Hyperoartia-20241016215100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=76" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Hyperoartia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Liz-20241016215100-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Hyperoartia"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:Hyperoartia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:Hyperoartia (page does not exist)">Category:Hyperoartia</a> indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a <a href="/wiki/Category:Disambiguation_categories" title="Category:Disambiguation categories">disambiguation category</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_soft_redirected_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories">category redirect</a>, under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories for discussion</a>, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. 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I understand it is quite old now, and our understanding of these animals has changed somewhat since it was drawn, but it is the best representation of the Copacabana Formation available and I think it would significantly enhance the article. I am working on bringing <i>Parahelicoprion</i> to B-class and, if possible, good article, and while the taxon is fragmentary I want a restoration in its paleoenvironment to fill out the Copacabana portion of the paleoecology section. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Gasmasque" title="User:Gasmasque">Gasmasque</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gasmasque" title="User talk:Gasmasque">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gasmasque-20241026225000-Life_reconstruction_of_Parahelicoprion_mariosuarezi" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:50, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gasmasque-20241026225000-Life_reconstruction_of_Parahelicoprion_mariosuarezi"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gasmasque-20241026225000-Life_reconstruction_of_Parahelicoprion_mariosuarezi"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20241027002900-Gasmasque-20241026225000"></span>What about this restoration? Based off of DBogdanov's work. Give me a bit and I can put together a more up to date restoration, too. <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20241027002900-Gasmasque-20241026225000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20241027002900-Gasmasque-20241026225000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20241027002900-Gasmasque-20241026225000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gasmasque-20241027032100-Apokryltaros-20241027002900"></span>I appreciate it! I'm not sure what "more up to date" would mean in this context, though, as afaik there have been no published reconstructions of either species of <i>Parahelicoprion</i> since Janvier's <i>Early Vertebrates</i> (1996). I've not seen any papers arguing for an alternative interpretation of <i>P. mariosuarezi</i>, but would be very curious if one has been published! <a href="/wiki/User:Gasmasque" title="User:Gasmasque">Gasmasque</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gasmasque" title="User talk:Gasmasque">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gasmasque-20241027032100-Apokryltaros-20241027002900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:21, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gasmasque-20241027032100-Apokryltaros-20241027002900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gasmasque-20241027032100-Apokryltaros-20241027002900"></span> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.deviantart.com/avancna/art/BEDA-301-757763415"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20241027035700-Gasmasque-20241027032100"></span>*cough* <i>This one</i></a> The first one was based off of the restoration in <u>Early Vertebrates</u>, while this one is kind of based on Dbogandanov's work and the <i>Helicoprion</i> cranial material.<a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20241027035700-Gasmasque-20241027032100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20241027035700-Gasmasque-20241027032100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20241027035700-Gasmasque-20241027032100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gasmasque-20241027045100-Apokryltaros-20241027035700"></span>A short-jawed reconstruction would be appreciated, actually! The article currently uses Bogdanov's 2007 pencil illustration, which has a <i>Sarcoprion</i>-type skull, but a second reconstruction in line with our modern thinking, while speculative, would be beneficial. Again, whether you opt to create/modify a new illustration or simply upload an older one is up to you.</dd> <dd>Also, I've found the origins of and sourced the outlandish claims on the size of this taxon, uploaded the public domain imagery of the holotype produced by Karpinsky, and significantly expanded the article's content, with no personal blog or Deviantart citations to be found. I'm working in a sandbox at the moment, but I'm nearing a point of uploading my edits onto mainspace. After over a decade of poor quality edits I hope I've gotten the page into a passable state. Cheers, and thanks for maintaining/pruning the nonsense off the <i>Parahelicoprion</i> page for the last 10 years or so! <a href="/wiki/User:Gasmasque" title="User:Gasmasque">Gasmasque</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gasmasque" title="User talk:Gasmasque">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Gasmasque-20241027045100-Apokryltaros-20241027035700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gasmasque-20241027045100-Apokryltaros-20241027035700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gasmasque-20241027045100-Apokryltaros-20241027035700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Editor_experience_invitation" data-mw-thread-id="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20241106031600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20241106031600"></span>Editor experience invitation<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Editor_experience_invitation-20241106031600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&action=edit&section=78" title="Edit section: Editor experience invitation"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20241106031600-Editor_experience_invitation"></span>Hi Apokryltaros. I'm looking for experienced editors to interview <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss/Editor_reflections" title="User:Clovermoss/Editor reflections">here</a>. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Clovermoss-20241106031600-Editor_experience_invitation" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:16, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20241106031600-Editor_experience_invitation"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20241106031600-Editor_experience_invitation"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Apokryltaros-20241106032900-Clovermoss-20241106031600"></span>Thank you for the invitation, let me think about it. <a href="/wiki/User:Apokryltaros" title="User:Apokryltaros">Mr Fink</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Apokryltaros-20241106032900-Clovermoss-20241106031600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Apokryltaros-20241106032900-Clovermoss-20241106031600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Apokryltaros-20241106032900-Clovermoss-20241106031600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Clovermoss-20241106033000-Apokryltaros-20241106032900"></span>Take as much time as you need to make a decision, there's no deadline. <a href="/wiki/User:Clovermoss" title="User:Clovermoss"><span style="color:darkorchid">Clovermoss</span><span style="color:green">🍀</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Clovermoss" title="User talk:Clovermoss">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Apokryltaros#c-Clovermoss-20241106033000-Apokryltaros-20241106032900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Clovermoss-20241106033000-Apokryltaros-20241106032900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Clovermoss-20241106033000-Apokryltaros-20241106032900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&oldid=1258283119">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Apokryltaros&oldid=1258283119</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 19 November 2024, at 00:33<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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