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Nov 2014, 13:07 </p> <div class="content">Hi,<br> jeder trifft ja eine andere Vorsorge für sich und seine Familie. Nun ist meine Frage, welche Versicherungen oder auch Anlagen ihr für ein Leben im Alter getroffen habt?</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> <div id="p3756" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile3756"> <dt class="no-profile-rank has-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=879&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="avatar"><img class="avatar" src="./../download/file.php?avatar=879_1415617063.jpg" width="66" height="100" alt="Benutzeravatar" /></a> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=879&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">Julian74</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=879&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c">12</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> Mi 5. Nov 2014, 12:25</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-plz"><strong>Postcode:</strong> 80999</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-land"><strong>Country:</strong> Germany</dd> <dd class="profile-custom-field profile-phpbb_location"><strong>Wohnort:</strong> Sundern</dd> </dl> <div class="postbody"> <div id="post_content3756"> <h3 ><a href="#p3756">Re: Wie bereitet ihr euch auf das Alter vor?</a></h3> <ul class="post-buttons"> <li> <a href="/app.php/post/3756/report?sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" title="Diesen Beitrag melden" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-exclamation fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Diesen Beitrag melden</span> </a> </li> <li> <a href="./../posting.php?mode=quote&amp;p=3756&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" title="Mit Zitat antworten" class="button button-icon-only"> <i class="icon fa-quote-left fa-fw" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Zitat</span> </a> </li> </ul> <p class="author"> <a class="unread" href="./../ernaehrung-gesundheit-f166/wie-bereitet-ihr-euch-auf-das-alter-vor-t2311.html?sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c#p3756" title="Beitrag"> <i class="icon fa-file fa-fw icon-lightgray icon-md" aria-hidden="true"></i><span class="sr-only">Beitrag</span> </a> <span class="responsive-hide">von <strong><a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=879&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">Julian74</a></strong> &raquo; </span>Mo 10. Nov 2014, 15:54 </p> <div class="content">Jetzt ist man noch jung und man sollte versuchen jetzt schon vorzusorgen. Wer in der Familie oder bei Freunden mal gesehen hat, was bei unzureichender Vorsorge passiert, der wird umso mehr auf ausreichende Versicherungen achten. Eine Pflegeversicherung ist zb fast schon Pflicht. Wer im Alter ausreichend abgesichert sein will, der kann mal die unterschiedlichen Anbieter vergleichen. 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Nov 2014, 18:08 </p> <div class="content">@PeterP. MMn ist das individuell verschieden und kommt natürlich auch auf das finanzielle Budget an. Der eine kann mehr Rücklagen bilden, der andere weniger. Außerdem ist die Risikobereitschaft bei jedem anders. Mir wurde der Rat gegeben, sich nicht nur auf ein Standbein zu verlassen sondern versuchen das Ganze breit zu streuen. Wenn dann ein Posten nicht den Ertrag hat, so können doch die anderen es evtl. wieder ausgleichen.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> <div id="p3885" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile3885"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=958&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">Bittef</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=958&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c">4</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> Fr 12. 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Jun 2015, 03:04 </p> <div class="content">Mehr als ein Fünftel der über 80-Jährigen ist pflegebedürftig, bei den über 90-Jährigen sind es fast zwei Drittel. Doch zu den gesundheitlichen Problemen kommen häufig finanzielle hinzu. Weil man in jungen Jahren aber nur schwer einschätzen kann, wie viel Geld man Jahre später für seine Altersvorsorge und für die Pflege brauchen wird, ist es wichtig, dass die Versicherung mit den Kosten Schritt hält. Dynamische Pflegeversicherungen passen sich der Kostenentwicklung automatisch an.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> <div id="p3908" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile3908"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=948&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">Sabilo</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=948&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c">6</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> Mi 15. 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Aug 2015, 11:00 </p> <div class="content">Also ich habe Ende letzten Jahres meine Krankenversicherung gewechselt. Das war gar nicht so einfach. Die Beiträge wurden erhöht und das fand ich recht unverschämt. Dann hat man ja die Möglichkeit in einen anderen Tarif zu wechseln, doch die waren auch alle nicht wirklich billige, bzw. hätte ich auf Leistungen verzichten müssen. Dann wollte ich zu einer anderen PKV wechseln, doch da war dann das Problem, dass die meisten wieder eine Gesundheitsprüfung verlangen und man schon im vorhinein mit höheren Beiträgen rechen muss, weil man ja jetzt ein höheres Eintrittsalter hat. Da gabs ne ganze Menge zu beachten, hab dann aber ne gute Seite mit Tipps und Tricks gefunden.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> <div id="p3934" class="post has-profile bg1"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile3934"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=971&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">Berta</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=971&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c">8</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> Mi 2. 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Sep 2015, 16:24 </p> <div class="content">Altersvorsorge ist echt ein komplexes Thema. Und wenn man jung ist, ist es noch so weit weg. Dennoch sollte man sich da echt mal drum kümmern. Nur wie sorgt man am besten vor? Vielleicht mit einer privaten Pflegeversicherung? Hat dazu jemand Infos oder einen Link. Eine Übersicht mit wichtigen Hinweisen und Vergleichsmöglichkeiten würde mir sehr weiterhelfen.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="back2top"> <a href="#top" class="top" title="Nach oben"> <i class="icon fa-chevron-circle-up fa-fw icon-gray" aria-hidden="true"></i> <span class="sr-only">Nach oben</span> </a> </div> </div> <div id="p3957" class="post has-profile bg2"> <div class="inner"> <dl class="postprofile" id="profile3957"> <dt class="no-profile-rank no-avatar"> <div class="avatar-container"> </div> <a href="./../memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=982&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c" class="username">FSabine</a> </dt> <dd class="profile-posts"><strong>Beiträge:</strong> <a href="./../search.php?author_id=982&amp;sr=posts&amp;sid=5c1070d870ce9edd10749d753ea08a5c">3</a></dd> <dd class="profile-joined"><strong>Registriert:</strong> Do 22. 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Okt 2015, 16:40 </p> <div class="content">Das stimmt. Meistens macht mich sich erst richtig Gedanken um die Altersvorsorge, wenn es schon zu spät ist. Deswegen sollte man so früh wie möglich (natürlich auch nicht zu früh) damit anfangen. Es gibt insgesamt ja ein Vielzahl von Möglichkeiten, sich für das Alter abzusichern. Ich war da am Anfang ziemlich erschlagen. Letzt lich bin dann so vorgegangen, dass ich mich erstmal über verschiedene Möglichkeiten informiert habe. Dabei hat sich die Seite versicherungstests.info als recht nützlich erwiesen. Da werden die Tests zu einer Vielzahl von Versicherungen und Vorsorgemöglichkeiten für das Jahr 2015 nach Kategorien in einer Zeitleiste dargestellt. So hat man einen guten Überblick und kann sich informieren, welche Varianten am interessantesten wären. Über den jeweiligen Überblick kommt man dann mit einem Klick direkt zu der Seite der entsprechenden Tester (z.B. 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