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They lived there and worked for the king.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/esv/1_chronicles/4.htm">English Standard Version</a></span><br />These were the potters who were inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah. They lived there in the king’s service.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/bsb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Berean Standard Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters who lived at Netaim and Gederah. They lived there in the service of the king.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/kjv/1_chronicles/4.htm">King James Bible</a></span><br />These <i>were</i> the potters, and those that dwelt among plants and hedges: there they dwelt with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nkjv/1_chronicles/4.htm">New King James Version</a></span><br />These <i>were</i> the potters and those who dwell at Netaim and Gederah; there they dwelt with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb_/1_chronicles/4.htm">New American Standard Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb/1_chronicles/4.htm">NASB 1995</a></span><br />These were the potters and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nasb77/1_chronicles/4.htm">NASB 1977 </a></span><br />These were the potters and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lsb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Legacy Standard Bible </a></span><br />These were the potters and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/amp/1_chronicles/4.htm">Amplified Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters and those who lived [among plantations and hedges] at Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/csb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Christian Standard Bible</a></span><br />They were the potters and residents of Netaim and Gederah. They lived there in the service of the king.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/hcsb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Holman Christian Standard Bible</a></span><br />They were the potters and residents of Netaim and Gederah. They lived there in the service of the king. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/asv/1_chronicles/4.htm">American Standard Version</a></span><br />These were the potters, and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah: there they dwelt with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/cev/1_chronicles/4.htm">Contemporary English Version</a></span><br />The members of these clans were the potters who lived in the towns of Netaim and Gederah and worked for the king. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/erv/1_chronicles/4.htm">English Revised Version</a></span><br />These were the potters, and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah: there they dwelt with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/gwt/1_chronicles/4.htm">GOD'S WORD® Translation</a></span><br />They were the potters who lived at Netaim and Gederah. They lived there with the king and did his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/gnt/1_chronicles/4.htm">Good News Translation</a></span><br />They were potters in the service of the king and lived in the towns of Netaim and Gederah. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/isv/1_chronicles/4.htm">International Standard Version</a></span><br />These people were potters who lived in Netaim and Gederah in service to their king, who lived there.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/msb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Majority Standard Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters who lived at Netaim and Gederah. They lived there in the service of the king.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/net/1_chronicles/4.htm">NET Bible</a></span><br />They were the potters who lived in Netaim and Gederah; they lived there and worked for the king. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nheb/1_chronicles/4.htm">New Heart English Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters, and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah. They lived there with the king in his service.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/wbt/1_chronicles/4.htm">Webster's Bible Translation</a></span><br />These were the potters, and those that dwelt among plants and hedges: there they dwelt with the king for his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/web/1_chronicles/4.htm">World English Bible</a></span><br />These were the potters, and the inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king for his work. <div class="vheading2"><b>Literal Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lsv/1_chronicles/4.htm">Literal Standard Version</a></span><br />They [are] the potters and inhabitants of Netaim and Gedera; they dwelt there with the king in his work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/ylt/1_chronicles/4.htm">Young's Literal Translation</a></span><br /> They are the potters and inhabitants of Netaim and Gedera; with the king in his work they dwelt there.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/slt/1_chronicles/4.htm">Smith's Literal Translation</a></span><br />These the potters, and they dwelling with plants and in the enclosure: with the king in his work they dwelt there.<div class="vheading2"><b>Catholic Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/drb/1_chronicles/4.htm">Douay-Rheims Bible</a></span><br />These are the potters, and they dwelt in Plantations, and Hedges, with the king for his works, and they abode there. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/cpdv/1_chronicles/4.htm">Catholic Public Domain Version</a></span><br />These are the potters living in the Plantations and in the Hedges, with a king in his works, and they were dwelling there.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nabre/1_chronicles/4.htm">New American Bible</a></span><br />They were potters and inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah, where they lived in the king’s service. <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/nrsvce/1_chronicles/4.htm">New Revised Standard Version</a></span><br />These were the potters and inhabitants of Netaim and Gederah; they lived there with the king in his service.<div class="vheading2"><b>Translations from Aramaic</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/lamsa/1_chronicles/4.htm">Lamsa Bible</a></span><br />These are the sons of Shelah.<div class="vheading2"><b>OT Translations</b></div><span class="versiontext"><a href="/jps/1_chronicles/4.htm">JPS Tanakh 1917</a></span><br />These were the potters, and those that dwelt among plantations and hedges; there they dwelt occupied in the king's work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/sep/1_chronicles/4.htm">Brenton Septuagint Translation</a></span><br />These <i>are</i> the potters who dwelt in Ataim and Gadira with the king: they grew strong in his kingdom, and dwelt there.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/parallel/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">Additional Translations ...</a></span></div></div></div><div id="centbox"><div class="padcent"><a name="audio" id="audio"></a><div class="vheadingv"><b>Audio Bible</b></div><iframe width="100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wtNNY-qpWWI?start=1173" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe><span class="p"><br /><br /><br /></span><div class="vheadingv"><b>Context</b></div><span class="hdg"><a href="/bsb/1_chronicles/4.htm">More Descendants of Judah</a></span><br>…<span class="reftext">22</span>Jokim, the men of Cozeba, and Joash and Saraph, who ruled in Moab and Jashubi-lehem. (These names are from ancient records.) <span class="reftext">23</span><span class="highl"><a href="/hebrew/1992.htm" title="1992: hêm·māh (Pro-3mp) -- They. Or hemmah; masculine plural from halak; they.">These were</a> <a href="/hebrew/3335.htm" title="3335: hay·yō·wṣ·rîm (Art:: V-Qal-Prtcpl-mp) -- Probably identical with yatsar;); to mould into a form; especially as a potter; figuratively, to determine (i.e. Form a resolution).">the potters</a> <a href="/hebrew/3427.htm" title="3427: wə·yō·šə·ḇê (Conj-w:: V-Qal-Prtcpl-mpc) -- A primitive root; properly, to sit down; by implication, to dwell, to remain; causatively, to settle, to marry.">who lived</a> <a href="/hebrew/5196.htm" title="5196: nə·ṭā·‘îm (N-proper-fs) -- A place in Judah. Plural of neta'; Netaim, a place in Palestine.">at Netaim</a> <a href="/hebrew/1449.htm" title="1449: ū·ḡə·ḏê·rāh (Conj-w:: N-proper-ms) -- Wall, a city in Judah. The same as gderah; Gederah, a place in Palestine.">and Gederah.</a> <a href="/hebrew/5973.htm" title="5973: ‘im- (Prep) -- From amam; adverb or preposition, with, in varied applications; specifically, equally with; often with prepositional prefix."></a> <a href="/hebrew/3427.htm" title="3427: yā·šə·ḇū (V-Qal-Perf-3cp) -- A primitive root; properly, to sit down; by implication, to dwell, to remain; causatively, to settle, to marry.">They lived</a> <a href="/hebrew/8033.htm" title="8033: šām (Adv) -- There, thither. A primitive particle; there then; often thither, or thence.">there</a> <a href="/hebrew/4399.htm" title="4399: bim·laḵ·tōw (Prep-b:: N-fsc:: 3ms) -- From the same as mal'ak; properly, deputyship, i.e. Ministry; generally, employment or work; also property.">in the service</a> <a href="/hebrew/4428.htm" title="4428: ham·me·leḵ (Art:: N-ms) -- King. From malak; a king.">of the king.</a> </span><span class="reftext">24</span>The descendants of Simeon: Nemuel, Jamin, Jarib, Zerah, and Shaul.…<div class="cred"><a href="//berean.bible">Berean Standard Bible</a> · <a href="//berean.bible/downloads.htm">Download</a></div><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a name="crossref" id="crossref"></a><div class="vheading">Cross References</div><div id="crf"><span class="crossverse"><a href="/exodus/1-14.htm">Exodus 1:14</a></span><br />and made their lives bitter with hard labor in brick and mortar, and with all kinds of work in the fields. Every service they imposed was harsh.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/jeremiah/18-2.htm">Jeremiah 18:2-6</a></span><br />“Go down at once to the potter’s house, and there I will give you My message.” / So I went down to the potter’s house and saw him working at the wheel. / But the vessel that he was shaping from the clay became flawed in his hand; so he formed it into another vessel, as it seemed best for him to do. ...<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/isaiah/64-8.htm">Isaiah 64:8</a></span><br />But now, O LORD, You are our Father; we are the clay, and You are the potter; we are all the work of Your hand.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/2_kings/23-11.htm">2 Kings 23:11</a></span><br />And he removed from the entrance to the house of the LORD the horses that the kings of Judah had dedicated to the sun. They were in the court near the chamber of an official named Nathan-melech. And Josiah burned up the chariots of the sun.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/isaiah/19-9.htm">Isaiah 19:9</a></span><br />The workers in flax will be dismayed, and the weavers of fine linen will turn pale.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/job/10-9.htm">Job 10:9</a></span><br />Please remember that You molded me like clay. Would You now return me to dust?<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/job/33-6.htm">Job 33:6</a></span><br />I am just like you before God; I was also formed from clay.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/romans/9-21.htm">Romans 9:21</a></span><br />Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special occasions and another for common use?<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/2_timothy/2-20.htm">2 Timothy 2:20-21</a></span><br />A large house contains not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay. Some indeed are for honorable use, but others are for common use. / So if anyone cleanses himself of what is unfit, he will be a vessel for honor: sanctified, useful to the Master, and prepared for every good work.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/isaiah/29-16.htm">Isaiah 29:16</a></span><br />You have turned things upside down, as if the potter were regarded as clay. Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, “He did not make me”? Can the pottery say of the potter, “He has no understanding”?<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/isaiah/45-9.htm">Isaiah 45:9</a></span><br />Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker—one clay pot among many. Does the clay ask the potter, ‘What are you making?’ Does your work say, ‘He has no hands’?<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/lamentations/4-2.htm">Lamentations 4:2</a></span><br />How the precious sons of Zion, once worth their weight in pure gold, are now esteemed as jars of clay, the work of a potter’s hands!<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/genesis/2-7.htm">Genesis 2:7</a></span><br />Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/genesis/3-19.htm">Genesis 3:19</a></span><br />By the sweat of your brow you will eat your bread, until you return to the ground—because out of it were you taken. For dust you are, and to dust you shall return.”<span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="crossverse"><a href="/1_kings/7-46.htm">1 Kings 7:46</a></span><br />The king had them cast in clay molds in the plain of the Jordan between Succoth and Zarethan.</div><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a name="tsk" id="tsk"><div class="vheading">Treasury of Scripture</div><p class="tsk2">These were the potters, and those that dwelled among plants and hedges: there they dwelled with the king for his work.</p><p class="tskverse"><b><a href="/1_chronicles/4-14.htm">1 Chronicles 4:14</a></b></br> And Meonothai begat Ophrah: and Seraiah begat Joab, the father of the valley of Charashim; for they were craftsmen.</p><p class="tskverse"><b><a href="/psalms/81-6.htm">Psalm 81:6</a></b></br> I removed his shoulder from the burden: his hands were delivered from the pots.</p><div class="vheading">Jump to Previous</div><a href="/2_kings/19-36.htm">Abode</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/2-55.htm">Dwelt</a> <a href="/exodus/39-13.htm">Enclosures</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/1-46.htm">Fields</a> <a href="/joshua/15-36.htm">Gederah</a> <a href="/joshua/15-36.htm">Gede'rah</a> <a href="/luke/14-23.htm">Hedges</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/2-55.htm">Inhabitants</a> <a href="/2_kings/25-29.htm">King's</a> <a href="/1_kings/18-27.htm">Occupied</a> <a href="/micah/1-6.htm">Plantations</a> <a href="/2_samuel/7-10.htm">Planted</a> <a href="/2_kings/19-26.htm">Plants</a> <a href="/daniel/2-41.htm">Potters</a> <a href="/2_kings/25-17.htm">Round</a> <a href="/2_kings/25-10.htm">Walls</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/4-10.htm">Work</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/4-21.htm">Worked</a><div class="vheading2">Jump to Next</div><a href="/1_chronicles/4-28.htm">Abode</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/4-28.htm">Dwelt</a> <a href="/jeremiah/25-37.htm">Enclosures</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/6-56.htm">Fields</a> <a href="/joshua/15-36.htm">Gederah</a> <a href="/joshua/15-36.htm">Gede'rah</a> <a href="/psalms/80-12.htm">Hedges</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/4-40.htm">Inhabitants</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/9-18.htm">King's</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/5-9.htm">Occupied</a> <a href="/micah/1-6.htm">Plantations</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/17-9.htm">Planted</a> <a href="/job/5-25.htm">Plants</a> <a href="/isaiah/30-14.htm">Potters</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/4-33.htm">Round</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/14-1.htm">Walls</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/6-32.htm">Work</a> <a href="/1_chronicles/17-19.htm">Worked</a><div class="vheading2">1 Chronicles 4</div><span class="reftext">1. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-1.htm">The posterity of Judah by Caleb, the son of Hur.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">5. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-5.htm">Of Ashur, the posthumous son Hezron.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">9. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-9.htm">Of Jabez, and his prayer.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">11. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-11.htm">The other families of the same stock.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">21. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-21.htm">The sons of Shelah.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">24. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-24.htm">The posterity and cities of Simeon.</a></span><br><span class="reftext">39. </span><span class="outlinetext"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-39.htm">Their conquest of Gedor, and of the Amalekites in mount Seir.</a></span><br></div></div><div id="mdd"><div align="center"><div class="bot2"><table align="center" width="100%"><tr><td><div align="center"> <script id="3d27ed63fc4348d5b062c4527ae09445"> (new Image()).src = 'https://capi.connatix.com/tr/si?token=51ce25d5-1a8c-424a-8695-4bd48c750f35&cid=3a9f82d0-4344-4f8d-ac0c-e1a0eb43a405'; 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Pottery was an essential craft in ancient Israel, used for everyday items like storage jars, cooking pots, and lamps. The potter's work is often used metaphorically in Scripture, such as in <a href="/jeremiah/18.htm">Jeremiah 18:1-6</a>, where God is likened to a potter shaping clay, symbolizing His sovereignty over nations and individuals.<p><b>who lived at Netaim and Gederah</b><br>Netaim and Gederah were locations within the territory of Judah. Gederah is mentioned in <a href="/joshua/15-36.htm">Joshua 15:36</a> as part of the inheritance of the tribe of Judah. The exact location of Netaim is less certain, but it is believed to be nearby. These towns were likely centers for specific trades, with Gederah possibly being a hub for pottery due to its mention here. The geographical setting indicates a community organized around specific crafts, reflecting the economic and social structures of ancient Israel.<p><b>They lived there in the service of the king</b><br>This phrase suggests that these potters were not merely independent craftsmen but were employed in a royal capacity. Serving the king implies a level of prestige and importance, as their work would have been essential for the needs of the royal household and possibly for temple service. This service to the king can be seen as a type of Christ, who is the ultimate King, and believers are called to serve Him with their gifts and talents. The concept of serving the king also connects to the broader biblical theme of stewardship and using one's skills for the glory of God and the benefit of His kingdom.<div class="vheading2">Persons / Places / Events</div>1. <b><a href="/topical/p/potters.htm">Potters</a></b><br>Skilled artisans responsible for creating pottery, which was essential for daily life in ancient times. Their work was both practical and artistic, serving the needs of the community and the king.<br><br>2. <b><a href="/topical/n/netaim.htm">Netaim</a></b><br>A location mentioned in this verse, possibly a village or settlement where these potters resided. The name means "plantings" or "shoots," suggesting a place of growth or productivity.<br><br>3. <b><a href="/topical/g/gederah.htm">Gederah</a></b><br>Another location associated with the potters. The name means "wall" or "enclosure," indicating a fortified or protected area.<br><br>4. <b><a href="/topical/s/service_of_the_king.htm">Service of the King</a></b><br>The potters were engaged in work that directly served the king, highlighting the importance of their craft and their contribution to the royal household.<div class="vheading2">Teaching Points</div><b><a href="/topical/t/the_value_of_skilled_work.htm">The Value of Skilled Work</a></b><br>The potters' role in serving the king underscores the value of skilled labor. Every task, no matter how humble, can be significant when done for a higher purpose.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/s/serving_with_excellence.htm">Serving with Excellence</a></b><br>The potters lived in service to the king, reminding us to serve with excellence in whatever role we find ourselves, as if serving the Lord.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/g/god's_sovereignty_in_our_craft.htm">God's Sovereignty in Our Craft</a></b><br>Just as the potters shaped clay, God shapes our lives. We are called to trust His design and purpose for us, even when we don't understand the process.<br><br><b><a href="/topical/c/community_and_contribution.htm">Community and Contribution</a></b><br>The potters were part of a community, contributing their skills for the common good. We are encouraged to use our gifts to build up the body of Christ and serve others.<div class="vheading2">Lists and Questions</div><a href="/top10/lessons_from_1_chronicles_4.htm">Top 10 Lessons from 1 Chronicles 4</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/are_1_chronicles_4_lifespans_plausible.htm">Are the lifespans and generational spans implied in 1 Chronicles 4 scientifically plausible, or do they represent mythical or symbolic timelines?</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/are_1_chronicles_4_groups_verified.htm">Is there any external verification for the groups listed in 1 Chronicles 4—especially those not mentioned elsewhere—suggesting they might be legendary or symbolic? </a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/why_doubt_1_chronicles_4_41's_event.htm">In 1 Chronicles 4:41, why is there no clear historical record of the destruction of these inhabitants, raising doubts about the event's authenticity?</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/q/how_to_reconcile_1_chr_4_1-8_with_ot_lineages.htm">How do we reconcile the genealogies in 1 Chronicles 4:1-8 with other Old Testament passages that record different names and lineages?</a><a name="commentary" id="commentary"></a><div class="vheading2"><a href="/commentaries/ellicott/1_chronicles/4.htm">Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers</a></div>(23) <span class= "bld">These were the potters.</span>--Viz., the clans enumerated in <a href="/1_chronicles/4-22.htm" title="And Jokim, and the men of Chozeba, and Joash, and Saraph, who had the dominion in Moab, and Jashubilehem. And these are ancient things.">1Chronicles 4:22</a>.<p><span class= "bld">And those that dwelt among plants and hedges.</span>--Rather, <span class= "ital">and inhabitants of Net aim and Gederah.</span> Netaim means "plantations" (<a href="/isaiah/17-10.htm" title="Because you have forgotten the God of your salvation, and have not been mindful of the rock of your strength, therefore shall you plant pleasant plants, and shall set it with strange slips:">Isaiah 17:10</a>). Solomon had pleasure-gardens near Bethlehem. See also the notice of Uzziah's farms and vineyards (<a href="/2_chronicles/26-10.htm" title="Also he built towers in the desert, and dig many wells: for he had much cattle, both in the low country, and in the plains: farmers also, and vine dressers in the mountains, and in Carmel: for he loved husbandry.">2Chronicles 26:10</a>). Gederah (<a href="/joshua/15-36.htm" title="And Sharaim, and Adithaim, and Gederah, and Gederothaim; fourteen cities with their villages:">Joshua 15:36</a>), a town in the Shephelah.<p><span class= "bld">There they dwelt with the king.</span>--Literally, <span class= "ital">with the king in his work they dwelt there.</span> This seems to say that the potteries of Netaim and Gederah were a royal establishment, as those of Sevres used to be. Perhaps the linen-weaving of Beth-Ashbea (<a href="/1_chronicles/4-21.htm" title="The sons of Shelah the son of Judah were, Er the father of Lecah, and Laadah the father of Mareshah, and the families of the house of them that worked fine linen, of the house of Ashbea,">1Chronicles 4:21</a>) should be included. . . . <span class="p"><br /><br /></span><span class="versiontext"><a href="/commentaries/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">Parallel Commentaries ...</a></span><span class="p"><br /><br /><br /></span><a name="lexicon" id="lexicon"></a><div class="vheading">Hebrew</div><span class="word">These [were]</span><br /><span class="heb">הֵ֚מָּה</span> <span class="translit">(hêm·māh)</span><br /><span class="parse">Pronoun - third person masculine plural<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_1992.htm">Strong's 1992: </a> </span><span class="str2">They</span><br /><br /><span class="word">the potters</span><br /><span class="heb">הַיּ֣וֹצְרִ֔ים</span> <span class="translit">(hay·yō·wṣ·rîm)</span><br /><span class="parse">Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_3335.htm">Strong's 3335: </a> </span><span class="str2">To mould into a, form, as a, potter, to determine</span><br /><br /><span class="word">who lived</span><br /><span class="heb">וְיֹשְׁבֵ֥י</span> <span class="translit">(wə·yō·šə·ḇê)</span><br /><span class="parse">Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural construct<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_3427.htm">Strong's 3427: </a> </span><span class="str2">To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry</span><br /><br /><span class="word">at Netaim</span><br /><span class="heb">נְטָעִ֖ים</span> <span class="translit">(nə·ṭā·‘îm)</span><br /><span class="parse">Noun - proper - feminine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_5196.htm">Strong's 5196: </a> </span><span class="str2">Netaim -- a place in Judah</span><br /><br /><span class="word">and Gederah.</span><br /><span class="heb">וּגְדֵרָ֑ה</span> <span class="translit">(ū·ḡə·ḏê·rāh)</span><br /><span class="parse">Conjunctive waw | Noun - proper - masculine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_1449.htm">Strong's 1449: </a> </span><span class="str2">Gederah -- 'wall', a city in Judah</span><br /><br /><span class="word">They lived</span><br /><span class="heb">יָ֥שְׁבוּ</span> <span class="translit">(yā·šə·ḇū)</span><br /><span class="parse">Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person common plural<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_3427.htm">Strong's 3427: </a> </span><span class="str2">To sit down, to dwell, to remain, to settle, to marry</span><br /><br /><span class="word">there</span><br /><span class="heb">שָֽׁם׃</span> <span class="translit">(šām)</span><br /><span class="parse">Adverb<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_8033.htm">Strong's 8033: </a> </span><span class="str2">There, then, thither</span><br /><br /><span class="word">in the service</span><br /><span class="heb">בִּמְלַאכְתּ֖וֹ</span> <span class="translit">(bim·laḵ·tōw)</span><br /><span class="parse">Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular construct | third person masculine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_4399.htm">Strong's 4399: </a> </span><span class="str2">Deputyship, ministry, employment, work, property</span><br /><br /><span class="word">of the king.</span><br /><span class="heb">הַמֶּ֥לֶךְ</span> <span class="translit">(ham·me·leḵ)</span><br /><span class="parse">Article | Noun - masculine singular<br /></span><span class="str"><a href="/hebrew/strongs_4428.htm">Strong's 4428: </a> </span><span class="str2">A king</span><br /><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><div class="vheading">Links</div><a href="/niv/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 NIV</a><br /><a href="/nlt/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 NLT</a><br /><a href="/esv/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 ESV</a><br /><a href="/nasb/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 NASB</a><br /><a href="/kjv/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 KJV</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="//bibleapps.com/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 BibleApps.com</a><br /><a href="//bibliaparalela.com/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 Biblia Paralela</a><br /><a href="//holybible.com.cn/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 Chinese Bible</a><br /><a href="//saintebible.com/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 French Bible</a><br /><a href="/catholic/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">1 Chronicles 4:23 Catholic Bible</a><span class="p"><br /><br /></span><a href="/1_chronicles/4-23.htm">OT History: 1 Chronicles 4:23 These were the potters and the inhabitants (1 Chron. 1Ch iCh i Ch 1 chr 1chr)</a></div></div></td></tr></table></div><div id="left"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-22.htm" onmouseover='lft.src="/leftgif.png"' onmouseout='lft.src="/left.png"' title="1 Chronicles 4:22"><img src="/left.png" name="lft" border="0" alt="1 Chronicles 4:22" /></a></div><div id="right"><a href="/1_chronicles/4-24.htm" onmouseover='rght.src="/rightgif.png"' onmouseout='rght.src="/right.png"' title="1 Chronicles 4:24"><img src="/right.png" name="rght" border="0" alt="1 Chronicles 4:24" /></a></div><div id="botleft"><a href="#" onmouseover='botleft.src="/botleftgif.png"' onmouseout='botleft.src="/botleft.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botleft.png" name="botleft" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="botright"><a href="#" onmouseover='botright.src="/botrightgif.png"' onmouseout='botright.src="/botright.png"' title="Top of Page"><img src="/botright.png" name="botright" border="0" alt="Top of Page" /></a></div><div id="bot"><iframe width="100%" height="1500" scrolling="no" src="/botmenubhnew2.htm" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></td></tr></table></div></body></html>