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Welcome to the <b>Wikimedia <a href="/wiki/Meta:About_Meta" class="mw-redirect" title="Meta:About Meta">Meta-Wiki</a></b>! This website is for coordinating and discussing all <a href="/wiki/Complete_list_of_Wikimedia_projects" title="Complete list of Wikimedia projects">Wikimedia projects</a>. You may find it useful to read our <a href="/wiki/Meta:Policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Meta:Policy">policy page</a>. If you are interested in doing translations, visit <a href="/wiki/Meta:Babylon" title="Meta:Babylon">Meta:Babylon</a>. You can also leave a note on <a href="/wiki/Meta:Babel" title="Meta:Babel">Meta:Babel</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum" title="Wikimedia Forum">Wikimedia Forum</a> (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing! </p> </div> </div> <p>-- 22:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC) </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You've_got_mail" data-mw-thread-id="h-You've_got_mail-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z"><span id="You.27ve_got_mail"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-You've_got_mail-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z"></span>You've got mail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-You've_got_mail-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: You've got mail"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Pine-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z-You've_got_mail">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pine-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"></span>Please check your email. --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000"><a href="/wiki/User:Pine" title="User:Pine"><font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pine" title="User talk:Pine"><font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font></a></font> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Pine-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z-You've_got_mail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pine-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"><span id="ooui-php-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pine-2013-01-28T19:28:00.000Z-You've_got_mail"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bylaws_tweaks?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bylaws_tweaks?-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z"><span id="Bylaws_tweaks.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bylaws_tweaks?-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Bylaws tweaks?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bylaws_tweaks?-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Bylaws tweaks?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-05-17T14:09:00.000Z-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z-Bylaws_tweaks?"></span>See the bottom of <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_board_manual#Votes_vs._resolutions.2C_quorum_and_required_majority" title="Talk:Wikimedia Foundation board manual">Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_board_manual#Votes_vs._resolutions.2C_quorum_and_required_majority</a> - what do you think? <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Sj" title="User:Sj">SJ</a><small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj" title="User talk:Sj"><font style="color:#f90;">talk</font></a> </small></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z-Bylaws_tweaks?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z-Bylaws_tweaks?"><span id="ooui-php-2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z-Bylaws_tweaks?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-05-17T14:09:00.000Z-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! I will review and reply on that page. <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-05-17T14:09:00.000Z-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-05-17T14:09:00.000Z-Sj-2013-05-16T21:28:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-3" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Elvey-2013-05-29T22:44:00.000Z-Ping!">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elvey-2013-05-29T22:44:00.000Z-Ping!"></span>Can you review <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikilegal#Must_we_forbid_paid_editing.3F">this</a> or have it reviewed, please?--<a href="/wiki/User:Elvey" title="User:Elvey">Elvey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elvey" title="User talk:Elvey">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Elvey-2013-05-29T22:44:00.000Z-Ping!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elvey-2013-05-29T22:44:00.000Z-Ping!"><span id="ooui-php-4" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator 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href="#c-Church_of_emacs-2013-07-03T14:00:00.000Z-PRISM">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Church_of_emacs-2013-07-03T14:00:00.000Z-PRISM"></span>Dear Stephen, </p><p>any update on an official reaction by WMF? We've been waiting since the 21st of June... </p><p>Cheers, --<a href="/wiki/User:Church_of_emacs" title="User:Church of emacs">Tobias</a> <small><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Church_of_emacs" title="User talk:Church of emacs">talk</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Church_of_emacs" title="Special:Contributions/Church of emacs">contrib</a></small> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Church_of_emacs-2013-07-03T14:00:00.000Z-PRISM" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Church_of_emacs-2013-07-03T14:00:00.000Z-PRISM"><span id="ooui-php-5" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Church_of_emacs-2013-07-03T14:00:00.000Z-PRISM"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn" data-mw-thread-id="h-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z"></span>wikipedia.org on LinkedIn<span data-mw-comment-end="h-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: wikipedia.org on LinkedIn"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:35:00.000Z-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn"></span>Hey Stephen. This is nothing urgent, but I just thought I would let you know that a marketing company has set up a fake "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/3074847">wikipedia.org</a>" company page on LinkedIn, if I am understanding things correctly. And they have themselves listed in "Services" for wikipedia.org. <a href="/wiki/User:Dominic" title="User:Dominic">Dominic</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dominic" title="User talk:Dominic">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z-wikipedia.org_on_LinkedIn"><span id="ooui-php-6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:35:00.000Z-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-7" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:35:00.000Z-Dominic-2013-07-03T18:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Necessary_and_Proportionate" data-mw-thread-id="h-Necessary_and_Proportionate-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Necessary_and_Proportionate-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z"></span>Necessary and Proportionate<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Necessary_and_Proportionate-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Necessary and Proportionate"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sj-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z-Necessary_and_Proportionate">11 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:PRISM#We_should_sign_the_global_Principles_on_Surveillance_guidelines" class="extiw" title="m:Talk:PRISM"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z-Necessary_and_Proportionate"></span>A statement on surveillance</a> we should consider signing. <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Sj" title="User:Sj">SJ</a><small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj" title="User talk:Sj"><font style="color:#f90;">talk</font></a> </small></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sj-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z-Necessary_and_Proportionate" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sj-2013-11-07T01:00:00.000Z-Necessary_and_Proportionate"><span id="ooui-php-8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span 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class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:32:00.000Z-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z-Wikimediafoundation.org"></span>Hi, Slaporte (WMF), I was wondering if it is okay to add <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:DMCA">this</a> link to the external links section on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA" class="extiw" title="en:DMCA">Digital Millennium Copyright Act</a> page. Thank you for your time. <a href="/wiki/User:Lotje" title="User:Lotje">Lotje</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Lotje" title="User talk:Lotje">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z-Wikimediafoundation.org" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 28 November 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z-Wikimediafoundation.org"><span id="ooui-php-9" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z-Wikimediafoundation.org"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:32:00.000Z-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span>Hello <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Lotje" title="User:Lotje">Lotje</a>:</span> Yes, you may add a link. I see that there is already an external link to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.chillingeffects.org/">Chilling Effects</a> -- we also submit our takedown notices there, too. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:32:00.000Z-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:32:00.000Z-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-10" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2013-12-04T00:32:00.000Z-Lotje-2013-11-28T10:49:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Legalities" data-mw-thread-id="h-Legalities-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Legalities-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"></span>Legalities<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Legalities-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Legalities"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Paracel63-2014-02-28T01:39:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>5 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z-Legalities"></span>Hi! I see you made a posting <a class="external text" href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Ska_man_tvingas_erk.C3.A4nna_betald_redigering.3F">here</a>. As you can see we are preparing a local voting on the issue. We will within a week or two give you the results of our voting. Our preliminary discussion at Bybrunnen has, however, resulted in a large majority <i>against</i> the proposal. All for now.--<a href="/wiki/User:Paracel63" title="User:Paracel63">Paracel63</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paracel63" title="User talk:Paracel63">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z-Legalities" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z-Legalities"><span id="ooui-php-11" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z-Legalities"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Paracel63" title="User:Paracel63">Paracel63</a>, thanks for pointing me to the discussion on SV Wikipedia. Please let me know if there are any points I can help you clarify! You are also welcome to bring comments to the <a href="/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment" title="Talk:Terms of use/Paid contributions amendment">discussion page on Meta</a> (in Swedish, English, or any other language). <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 25 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-12" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-22T02:52:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z"></span>Thanks but no thanks as for now. I took a quick (that was my intention) look at the discussion, tried to wade through the differing opinions and fell asleep (true!) before I got to the end of the page. It would mean a full-time occupation for me trying to be involved in this, which I just cannot afford, neither have the time to. In due time you will get the results of our svwp voting, with clarified positions and arguments. Just one note: svwp is <i>not</i> the same as enwp; the 50 times less amount of editors mean we are in a quite different position. Best of wishes.--<a href="/wiki/User:Paracel63" title="User:Paracel63">Paracel63</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paracel63" title="User talk:Paracel63">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-13" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z"></span>It is indeed a long discussion, so I completely understand! I appreciate that you are coordinating the conversation with SVWP and keeping me informed. Thanks a lot! <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-14" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z-Paracel63-2014-02-27T00:08:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-28T01:39:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for understanding. Me and at least one more svwp editor did cast a vote here and posted some comments. But this discussion page really looks like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Park" class="extiw" title="en:Hyde Park">Hyde Park</a> with a thousand and one <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/soapbox" class="extiw" title="en:soapbox">soapboxes</a>, each one carrying a politician shouting. And most of the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker%27s_Corner" class="extiw" title="en:Speaker's Corner">speakers</a>" seem to be shouting about this issue from different perspectives. I sincerely hope you can get some sort of useful result out of this. <span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span>--<a href="/wiki/User:Paracel63" title="User:Paracel63">Paracel63</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paracel63" title="User talk:Paracel63">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Paracel63-2014-02-28T01:39:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paracel63-2014-02-28T01:39:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paracel63-2014-02-28T01:39:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-27T01:27:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Separate_talk_pages_by_language" data-mw-thread-id="h-Separate_talk_pages_by_language-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Separate_talk_pages_by_language-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"></span>Separate talk pages by language<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Separate_talk_pages_by_language-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Separate talk pages by language"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sj-2014-02-26T21:02:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z-Separate_talk_pages_by_language"></span>Huge talk pages don't currently work for multilingual discussion. How about a separate talk page per language for the <a class="external text" href="https://wikipedia.org">big language communities</a>, which can then be transcluded onto one page for tracking? <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Sj" title="User:Sj">SJ</a><small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj" title="User talk:Sj"><font style="color:#f90;">talk</font></a> </small></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z-Separate_talk_pages_by_language" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:11, 24 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z-Separate_talk_pages_by_language"><span id="ooui-php-16" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z-Separate_talk_pages_by_language"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"></span>Yes, we can create separate talk pages per language. The biggest difficulty for separate pages is keeping the conversations connected. We hoped that a single, multi-language page would encourage more interaction between languages, but this discussion has grown unusually large. The community advocacy team and a few others are helping us reach out beyond the English language community, and I am following the non-English discussions to the best of my ability (for example, the <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:WikiProjekt_Umgang_mit_bezahltem_Schreiben#Terms-of-Use-.C3.84nderung_zu_Paid_Editing" class="extiw" title="de:Wikipedia Diskussion:WikiProjekt Umgang mit bezahltem Schreiben">WikiProjekt Umgang mit bezahltem Schreiben discussion on DEWP</a> and <a href="https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Ska_man_tvingas_erk.C3.A4nna_betald_redigering.3F" class="extiw" title="sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen">Wikipedia:Bybrunnen discussion on SVWP</a>). Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-17" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z-Sj-2014-02-24T09:11:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-2014-02-26T21:02:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z"></span>Ok. Separate pages on the wikipedias in each language is also fine, though we should fix the meta system before too long. I've moved non-English sections up to the top of the talk page to give them visibility and coherence. Warmly, <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Sj" title="User:Sj">SJ</a><small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj" title="User talk:Sj"><font style="color:#f90;">talk</font></a> </small></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sj-2014-02-26T21:02:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 26 February 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sj-2014-02-26T21:02:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sj-2014-02-26T21:02:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-02-25T21:39:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="groups_from_the_Past" data-mw-thread-id="h-groups_from_the_Past-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-groups_from_the_Past-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z"></span>groups from the Past<span data-mw-comment-end="h-groups_from_the_Past-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: groups from the Past"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-192.195.83.38-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z-groups_from_the_Past">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliation_models/User_Groups" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikimedia affiliation models/User Groups"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-192.195.83.38-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z-groups_from_the_Past"></span>Wikimedia affiliation models/User Groups</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Step-by-step_user_group_creation_guide" class="mw-redirect" title="Step-by-step user group creation guide">user group creation guide</a> vs. <a href="/wiki/Step-by-step_thematic_organization_creation_guide" class="mw-redirect" title="Step-by-step thematic organization creation guide">thematic org creation guide</a> (both created the same time)</li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikimedia_affiliation_models/Movement_Partners" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikimedia affiliation models/Movement Partners">partners</a> - simple recognition process.</li></ul> <p>Be well, <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/192.195.83.38" title="Special:Contributions/192.195.83.38">192.195.83.38</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-192.195.83.38-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z-groups_from_the_Past" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:51, 25 April 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-192.195.83.38-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z-groups_from_the_Past"><span id="ooui-php-19" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-192.195.83.38-2014-04-25T21:51:00.000Z-groups_from_the_Past"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Terms_of_use" data-mw-thread-id="h-Terms_of_use-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Terms_of_use-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"></span>Terms of use<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Terms_of_use-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Terms of use"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-20T11:18:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z-Terms_of_use"></span>Hello Slaporte(WMF). Can you advise what the situation is in respect to paid editing?<a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment">[1]</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Xxanthippe&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Xxanthippe (page does not exist)">Xxanthippe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xxanthippe" title="User talk:Xxanthippe">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z-Terms_of_use" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z-Terms_of_use"><span id="ooui-php-20" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z-Terms_of_use"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"></span>Hello <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Xxanthippe&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Xxanthippe (page does not exist)">Xxanthippe</a>, thank you for your patience. The amendment to the terms of use was <a class="external text" href="https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/06/16/change-terms-of-use-requirements-for-disclosure/">announced on the blog today</a>. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-21" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z-Xxanthippe-2014-06-16T00:27:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-20T11:18:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z"></span>Excellent news. Best wishes. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Xxanthippe&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Xxanthippe (page does not exist)">Xxanthippe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xxanthippe" title="User talk:Xxanthippe">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-20T11:18:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:18, 20 June 2014 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xxanthippe-2014-06-20T11:18:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-06-16T23:34:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-22" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a 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href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Standard disclaimers"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Nemo_bis-2014-07-02T19:38:00.000Z-Standard_disclaimers">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nemo_bis-2014-07-02T19:38:00.000Z-Standard_disclaimers"></span>I suspect you may have forgotten your standard "this is not legal advice" disclaimer in <a class="external autonumber" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=9074826&oldid=9069529&rcid=5401339">[2]</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Nemo_bis" title="User:Nemo bis">Nemo</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Nemo_bis-2014-07-02T19:38:00.000Z-Standard_disclaimers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 2 July 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nemo_bis-2014-07-02T19:38:00.000Z-Standard_disclaimers"><span id="ooui-php-23" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-09-10T16:54:00.000Z-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z-Help"></span>Hello Slaporte. Maybe you can help me <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Terms_of_use/Paid_contributions_amendment#Difference_between_employer_and_client">here</a>. Thanks.--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Rndmdf&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Rndmdf (page does not exist)">Rndmdf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rndmdf" title="User talk:Rndmdf">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z-Help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 10 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z-Help"><span id="ooui-php-24" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z-Help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-09-10T16:54:00.000Z-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z"></span>I responded on that page. Thanks again! <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-09-10T16:54:00.000Z-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-09-10T16:54:00.000Z-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-25" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2014-09-10T16:54:00.000Z-Rndmdf-2014-09-10T10:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions" data-mw-thread-id="h-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"></span>WLM and iraqi FOP deletions<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: WLM and iraqi FOP deletions"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:41:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z">10 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions"></span>Hi Slaporte, so we have the first Wiki Loves Monuments campaign including Iraq in 2014, but unfortunately there are recurrent deletions of iraqi monument pics based on a questionable interpretation of a questionable 2004 copyright amendment by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Provisional_Authority" class="extiw" title="en:Coalition Provisional Authority">en:Coalition Provisional Authority</a> (= invading US military = Paul Bremer = actually RIAA lobby draft?!) Please read <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Monument_to_the_unknown_soldier_%286966336236%29.jpg">this</a> and agree with me that this is madness... (see <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Iraqi_FOP_cases">that too</a>) Unbelievable stuff. --<a href="/wiki/User:Atlasowa" title="User:Atlasowa">Atlasowa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atlasowa" title="User talk:Atlasowa">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions"><span id="ooui-php-26" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z-WLM_and_iraqi_FOP_deletions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:41:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"></span>See also <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Bagdad_moschee01.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bagdad moschee01.jpg">commons:Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Bagdad_moschee01.jpg</a> currently, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">User:Slaporte (WMF)</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Atlasowa" title="User:Atlasowa">Atlasowa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atlasowa" title="User talk:Atlasowa">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:41:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:41:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-27" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:41:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2014-11-03T12:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" data-mw-thread-id="h-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"><span id=".E2.80.98Share_A_Fact.E2.80.99_feature"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span>‘Share A Fact’ feature<span data-mw-comment-end="h-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: ‘Share A Fact’ feature"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-21T23:16:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>26 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>18 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span>Hi Stephen! Dan Garry <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95092" class="extiw" title="phab:T95092">named you</a> as responsible for the legal aspects of the ‘Share A Fact’ feature of the Wikipedia Android app. As most of the free licenses used on Commons require an attribution, most pictures created by this feature are a copyright violation if shared without further notice. As far as I see, the users are not informed that they have to add additional information (author, source, license …) if they want to publish the image. Therefore I’m surprised that the Legal Team gave a ‘full legal signoff’. While the Wikimedia Foundation itself does not violate rights, the app encourages its users to do so. Could you please provide some more information why you think that this feature is alright? Thanks in advance! Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ireas" title="User talk:Ireas">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 4 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"><span id="ooui-php-28" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a>, thanks for the question. The "share-a-fact" feature provides two indicators of its legal status. First, it has the CC BY-SA icons in the lower left part of the card, which describes the license of the Wikipedia article that is the source of the card. Second, the app generates a URL for the article (as text that accompanies the image), so users can follow the URL to find the full license information for the photo or the text. Our goal is to provide a reasonable amount of accessible information within a small card, so that users can share and remix content as encouraged by Creative Commons and other free licenses. Just as a note, a photo is not necessarily a copyright violation just because it does not include a comprehensive legal notice. The best practice for Creative Commons attribution is to provide <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Best_practices_for_attribution#Don.27t_make_it_too_complicated">reasonable attribution for the medium</a>. In the future, I hope that a <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data">better structured data system</a> on Wikimedia projects will enable even more creative ways of providing informative (but not overly intrusive) licensing information. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-29" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z"></span>But in the exact same paragraph stands also "That being said, you still have to include attribution requirements somehow, even if it's just a link to an About page that has that info." if the pictures of the article change, it is just possible by searching the old versions of the article to even get to a link that provides the info of the licence of the picture, which also are not every time cc licences. I don't understand your decision.--<a href="/wiki/User:CennoxX" title="User:CennoxX">CennoxX</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CennoxX" title="User talk:CennoxX">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-30" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T00:33:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z"></span>Thanks for your fast answer, Stephen!</dd> <dd>I still doubt that a link to the Wikipedia article is an appropriate attribution. As CennoxX already pointed out, the picture can be removed from the page. And even if it’s available, you still have to find it – looking at your Strassbourg example, it’s not that obvious which picture was used.</dd> <dd>You also have to consider that not all images are CC-by-sa. If the picture is realeased under the GFDL, the CC-by-sa tag is misleading and no appropriate attribution.</dd> <dd>In conclusion, I fear that this feature – especially if brought to the desktop UI as proposed in <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94998" class="extiw" title="phab:T94998">phab:T94998</a> – is a bad signal towards the photographers in the Wikimedia projects and is dangerous for reusers if the attribution is not changed. Imagine what will happen if a photographer sues someone who used the ‘Share A Fact’ feature.</dd> <dd>In my opinon, the Wikimedia projects, the Wikimedia chapters and the Wikimedia Foundation should not operate at in the grey zone between correct and incorrect reuse. They should set an example how to correctly reuse free material, being an ideal for everyone else and promoting free licenses. <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ireas" title="User talk:Ireas">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:57, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-31" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z-CennoxX-2015-04-05T04:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Man77-2015-04-05T13:20:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span>+1 to Ireas. In addition to that I want to express that I am stunned that after having had quite the same discussion with the pre-alpha media viewer WMF once again does not show interest in licensing issues. With distressed regards, → <a href="/wiki/User:Man77" title="User:Man77"><b>««</b></a> Man77 <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Man77" title="User talk:Man77"><b>»»</b></a> <sup><a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Man77" class="extiw" title="de:User:Man77">[de]</a></sup> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Man77-2015-04-05T13:20:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Man77-2015-04-05T13:20:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-32" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Man77-2015-04-05T13:20:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Raymond-2015-04-05T17:45:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span>+1 to Ireas. And another point: The deep of the problem increases when the created image is reused outside of the Twitter context. As standalone image w/o link to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Raymond" title="User:Raymond">Raymond</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Raymond" title="User talk:Raymond">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Raymond-2015-04-05T17:45:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Raymond-2015-04-05T17:45:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-33" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Raymond-2015-04-05T17:45:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span>+1 to Ireas. What you are practicing here <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Best_practices_for_attribution#Don.27t_make_it_too_complicated">is no reasonable manner</a> to attribute an image. In case of CC=BY-SA-4.0, if you provide a link, it should point directly to a page with all necessary information. See section 3 (a) 2. <i>For example, it may be reasonable to satisfy the conditions by providing a URI or hyperlink to a resource that includes the required information.</i> This means that in case of CC-BY-SA-4.0 one link is acceptable but not a series of links where it is not even obvious where the next link is to be found. In consequence, a link to an article is not sufficient, as it takes usually two further links until you will find the full information, provided you are still able to find the image in the article. The first link from the article leads you by default to the MediaViewer which is still not able to provide full copyright information (<a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coutances_Cathédrale_Notre-Dame_Vitrail_Baie_218_Lancette_gauche_5e_registre_-_la_Vierge_médiatrice_2014_08_25.jpg#/media/File:Coutances_Cathédrale_Notre-Dame_Vitrail_Baie_218_Lancette_gauche_5e_registre_-_la_Vierge_médiatrice_2014_08_25.jpg">example in MediaViewer with incomplete information</a>, <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coutances_Cath%C3%A9drale_Notre-Dame_Vitrail_Baie_218_Lancette_gauche_5e_registre_-_la_Vierge_m%C3%A9diatrice_2014_08_25.jpg" class="extiw" title="commons:File:Coutances Cathédrale Notre-Dame Vitrail Baie 218 Lancette gauche 5e registre - la Vierge médiatrice 2014 08 25.jpg">regular Commons file description with full information</a>). Only the second link that leads to the corresponding file description at Wikimedia Commons provides the full information. All this gets worse whenever you have a different license like GFDL-1.2-only. --<a href="/wiki/User:AFBorchert" title="User:AFBorchert">AFBorchert</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AFBorchert" title="User talk:AFBorchert">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:38, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-34" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T07:57:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"></span>+1 to all the above. I'm stunned that this is the official WMF position on how to correctly re-use content published under free licenses.--<a href="/wiki/User:Cirdan" title="User:Cirdan">Cirdan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cirdan" title="User talk:Cirdan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-35" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Geolina163-2015-04-06T17:50:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"></span>+1 to all the above. --<a href="/wiki/User:Geolina163" title="User:Geolina163">Geolina163</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Geolina163" title="User talk:Geolina163">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Geolina163-2015-04-06T17:50:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:50, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Geolina163-2015-04-06T17:50:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-36" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Geolina163-2015-04-06T17:50:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sänger-2015-04-06T17:57:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"></span>+ to all the above as well. The next rushed, not well-thought-out move towards facebookisation of the Wikiverse by WMF against the current policies. <a href="/wiki/User:S%C3%A4nger" title="User:Sänger">♫ Sänger</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:S%C3%A4nger" title="User talk:Sänger">Talk</a> - <a href="/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Superprotect_rights" title="Requests for comment/Superprotect rights">superputsch must go</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sänger-2015-04-06T17:57:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sänger-2015-04-06T17:57:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-37" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sänger-2015-04-06T17:57:00.000Z-Cirdan-2015-04-06T16:44:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"></span>+1 // <a href="/wiki/User:Martin_Kraft" title="User:Martin Kraft">Martin Kraft</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martin_Kraft" title="User talk:Martin Kraft">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 9 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-38" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z-AFBorchert-2015-04-05T21:38:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:26:00.000Z-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z"></span>I agree. This is a totally inappropriate one size fits all approach. I tested it (using one of my own Commons uploads to avoid breaching any license): from the email I sent myself to the attribution page I had to click three links. (Email -> article -> Media Viewer -> file page.) This clearly violates the terms of the CC-BY-SA-4 license I use and this is completely unacceptable. I cannot see any reasonable legal justification for the lack of attribution provided in this "feature". <a href="/wiki/User:BethNaught" title="User:BethNaught">BethNaught</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BethNaught" title="User talk:BethNaught">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:26:00.000Z-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:26:00.000Z-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-39" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:26:00.000Z-Martin_Kraft-2015-04-09T12:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span>An other point made by <a href="/wiki/User:Atlasowa" title="User:Atlasowa">Atlasowa</a> on <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier#Share_a_fact" class="extiw" title="de:Wikipedia Diskussion:Kurier">dewiki</a> is that back in 2012, you argued that <a href="/wiki/Legal/CC-BY-SA_on_Facebook" class="mw-redirect" title="Legal/CC-BY-SA on Facebook">sharing third party CC-by-sa content on Facebook</a> is not allowed. Did things change since then? This would make the ‘Share A Fact’ feature even more problematic. <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ireas" title="User talk:Ireas">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-40" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-04T23:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a> and all, thanks for the feedback. I will review the topics in detail and discuss them with Dan Garry's team. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-41" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z-Ireas-2015-04-05T21:44:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ireas-2015-04-06T09:58:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z"></span>Thanks, Stephen! As a workaround, I’d suggest these changes depending on the picture’s license: <dl><dt>public domain</dt></dl> <ul><li>remove the misleading CC-by-sa icon</li></ul> <dl><dt>CC-0</dt></dl> <ul><li>replace the CC-by-sa icon with the CC-0 icon</li></ul> <dl><dt>CC-by</dt></dl> <ul><li>replace the CC-by-sa icon with the CC-by icon</li> <li>add the author’s name to the picture</li></ul> <dl><dt>CC-by-sa</dt></dl> <ul><li>add the author’s name to the picture</li> <li>add the license name (e. g. CC-by-sa 3.0 DE or CC-by-sa 4.0) to the picture</li> <li>add a link to the source file to the sharing message (Tweet/Facebook post/…)</li></ul> <dl><dt>other licenses</dt></dl> <ul><li>don’t use these pictures as a correct attribution is too complicated</li></ul></dd> <dd>This is no perfect solution, but in my opinion, it would really improve the copyright situation. (Of course, this only applies if the text snippet is below the threshold of originality.) Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Ireas" title="User:Ireas">Ireas</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ireas" title="User talk:Ireas">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ireas-2015-04-06T09:58:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ireas-2015-04-06T09:58:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-42" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ireas-2015-04-06T09:58:00.000Z-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-05T23:15:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Christoph_Braun-2015-04-06T14:47:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span>Hi Stephen, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms">Facebook</a>, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://instagram.com/about/legal/terms/">Instagram</a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://twitter.com/tos">Twitter</a> require sub-licensing of content submitted to their services. Eventually there are more services with the same requirement. Given that these services are widely used, share a fact users are likely to use these platforms. Creative Commons licences, the most common type of licenses on Wikimedia Commons, usually prohibit sub-licensing. Noticing the statement about Facebook as mentioned above, I'm sure you and the legal team are well aware of the sub-licensing issue. I was wondering if this was taken into consideration before giving "full legal sign-off"? It seems to me like there's a rather slim chance for share a fact users to comply with license requirements and terms of services. I'd appreciate your comment on this issue. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Christoph_Braun" title="User:Christoph Braun">Christoph Braun</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Christoph_Braun&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Christoph Braun (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Christoph_Braun-2015-04-06T14:47:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Christoph_Braun-2015-04-06T14:47:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"><span id="ooui-php-43" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Christoph_Braun-2015-04-06T14:47:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span>Hi Stephen, could you give us an idea of your time plan for reviewieng the app in regard to copyright and for responding to our concerns? --<a href="/wiki/User:Martina_Nolte" title="User:Martina Nolte">Martina Nolte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martina_Nolte" title="User talk:Martina Nolte">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"><span id="ooui-php-44" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z"></span>Hello Folks, Stephen is working on a legal note, and I am working on starting a some discussions on the broader issue of attributions in media sharing outside our projects. More links will follow this week. Thanks --<a href="/wiki/User:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User:Melamrawy (WMF)">Melamrawy (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User talk:Melamrawy (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 13 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-45" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-10T21:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gestumblindi-2015-04-15T19:44:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User:Melamrawy (WMF)">Melamrawy (WMF)</a>:</span> Good to hear. I would like to add that I share the concerns brought up here, <i>especially</i> over the sub-licensing issue. It's not just about the attribution, but - as Stephen himself posted at <a href="/wiki/Legal/CC-BY-SA_on_Facebook" class="mw-redirect" title="Legal/CC-BY-SA on Facebook">Legal/CC-BY-SA on Facebook</a> - the main issue seems to be that you just <b>can't</b> legally post CC-BY-SA content that a third party produced on Facebook (and probably other popular services), as Facebook requires you grant them "a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook"; a thing one isn't able to do for third-party CC-BY-SA content. As I see it, that's nothing Wikimedia or Creative Commons can change - unless you manage to convince Facebook that they change their licensing terms ;-) <a href="/wiki/User:Gestumblindi" title="User:Gestumblindi">Gestumblindi</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gestumblindi" title="User talk:Gestumblindi">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Gestumblindi-2015-04-15T19:44:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:44, 15 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gestumblindi-2015-04-15T19:44:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-46" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gestumblindi-2015-04-15T19:44:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"></span>Good to hear indeed, looking forward to both the legal note and the discussion about attribution in media sharing (there has been much discussion about this in the past years, eg in Bugzilla − happy to give pointers if needed). Please keep up updated :) Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User:Jean-Frédéric">Jean-Fred</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jean-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric" title="User talk:Jean-Frédéric">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:47, 17 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-47" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-13T22:56:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span>So, this should expand <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_apps/features/Share_A_Fact">here</a> Stephen and myself will add more info very shortly (please, ..please excuse the delay, this is my bad!), then this will expand a bit more to cover further similar discussions. Meanwhile, please feel free to add questions, comments, pointers there. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User:Melamrawy (WMF)">Melamrawy (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User talk:Melamrawy (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-48" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z-Jean-Frédéric-2015-04-17T21:47:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span>As part of the explanation, can someone please say why the lessons from the Media Viewer debacle regarding new features which fail to comply with licensing terms were not apparently learned? <a href="/wiki/User:BethNaught" title="User:BethNaught">BethNaught</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BethNaught" title="User talk:BethNaught">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 20 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-49" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z-Melamrawy_(WMF)-2015-04-17T23:20:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z"></span>+1. And it wasn't just the MediaViewer but also the mobile imageviewer that had the same discussion last year (<a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71656">T71656 Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer</a>), plus a mail by Erik Moeller to the mobile team on how to not repeat this in the future: <a class="external autonumber" href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-September/007958.html">[3]</a>. And yet here we are, having the same discussion all over again, with the same charming "we have signoff from legal, forget it, case closed"-attitude.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg/220px-Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="124" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg/330px-Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg/440px-Share-a-Fact_example_german.jpg 2x" data-file-width="640" data-file-height="360"/></a><figcaption>"share-a-fact" from Wikipedia mobile with wikidata description in small print</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>BTW, if the mobile team really believes what they are saying, "we have not enough space for attribution", then i propose to drop the useless "wikidata description" that they have added to the cards. Those "wikidata descriptions" are not patrolled at wikidata and are vandalized a lot and are therefor controversial too (see <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2015/01#Wikipedia_app_and_Wikidata_vandalism" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2015/01">d:Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2015/01#Wikipedia app and Wikidata vandalism</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2015/02#Patrollers?" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2015/02">d:Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2015/02#Patrollers?</a> and <a href="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#It's_so_much_worse" class="extiw" title="d:Wikidata:Project chat">d:Wikidata:Project chat#It's so much worse</a> etc.) --<a href="/wiki/User:Atlasowa" title="User:Atlasowa">Atlasowa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Atlasowa" title="User talk:Atlasowa">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-50" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z-BethNaught-2015-04-20T19:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yellowcard-2015-04-21T19:22:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z"></span>+1. Sad but true. <a href="/wiki/User:Yellowcard" title="User:Yellowcard">Yellowcard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yellowcard" title="User talk:Yellowcard">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Yellowcard-2015-04-21T19:22:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yellowcard-2015-04-21T19:22:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-51" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yellowcard-2015-04-21T19:22:00.000Z-Atlasowa-2015-04-21T17:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-21T18:30:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Melamrawy_(WMF)" title="User:Melamrawy (WMF)">Melamrawy (WMF)</a>: There really was not a more remote place than some completly <a class="external text" href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikimedia_apps/features/Share_A_Fact">unlinked</a> MediaWiki subpage for further discussions? Where else did you invite contributors to join this discussion? When will a responsible WMF employee respond in detail to our concerns? --<a href="/wiki/User:Martina_Nolte" title="User:Martina Nolte">Martina Nolte</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Martina_Nolte" title="User talk:Martina Nolte">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-21T18:30:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:30, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-21T18:30:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"><span id="ooui-php-52" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Martina_Nolte-2015-04-21T18:30:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-21T23:16:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span>Hi all, thanks for your thoughts and suggestions! I have posted more details at <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_apps/features/Share_A_Fact" class="extiw" title="mediawikiwiki:Wikimedia apps/features/Share A Fact">Wikimedia apps/features/Share A Fact</a>, and I will respond to questions copied there on the talk page. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-21T23:16:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 21 April 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-21T23:16:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"><span id="ooui-php-53" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-04-21T23:16:00.000Z-‘Share_A_Fact’_feature"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="feedback_on_policy_site" data-mw-thread-id="h-feedback_on_policy_site-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-feedback_on_policy_site-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"></span>feedback on policy site<span data-mw-comment-end="h-feedback_on_policy_site-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: feedback on policy site"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z-feedback_on_policy_site"></span>Hi,please see my comment at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Public_policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Public policy">Talk:Public policy</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Matanya" title="User:Matanya">Matanya</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Matanya" title="User talk:Matanya">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z-feedback_on_policy_site" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z-feedback_on_policy_site"><span id="ooui-php-54" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z-feedback_on_policy_site"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"></span>Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-55" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Matanya-2015-09-02T18:31:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Interwiki_for_"policy"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Interwiki_for_"policy"-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"><span id="Interwiki_for_.22policy.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Interwiki_for_"policy"-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"></span>Interwiki for "policy"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Interwiki_for_"policy"-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Interwiki for "policy""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z-Interwiki_for_"policy""></span>Hi Stephen. I have added to the interwiki map to have the domain <code>policy</code> apply to https://policy.wikimedia.org/$1 which should allow for neater and more convenient linking to work that you do for/from the wikis. I will see if I can find a tech dude to push the update through so that it can appear in <a href="/wiki/Special:Interwiki" title="Special:Interwiki">Special:Interwiki</a> sooner, rather in the course of events. [I don't think that the interwiki map works from the blog, however, that is a guess rather than fact, and you probably have more access to the knowledge base of people than I do.] — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:smaller"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z-Interwiki_for_"policy"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z-Interwiki_for_"policy""><span id="ooui-php-56" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z-Interwiki_for_"policy""></span> </p> <dl><dd><div><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"></span>Status: <span style="background:#0C0;"> </span> <b><span data-status="done">Done</span></b></div> <a href="https://policy.wikimedia.org/copyright" class="extiw" title="policy:copyright">policy:copyright</a> <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Face-smile.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></a></span> — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:smaller"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-57" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z"></span>Awesome, thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-58" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2015-09-03T06:36:00.000Z-Billinghurst-2015-09-03T01:53:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hello_Stephen!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hello_Stephen!-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"><span id="Hello_Stephen.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Hello_Stephen!-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span>Hello Stephen!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Hello_Stephen!-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Hello Stephen!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T22:04:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z">9 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>3 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z-Hello_Stephen!"></span>I have just read a message about the new policy website of the foundation. I think it is going to drive Wikipedia into an even more political position and I don't want that. I am an encyclopedia writer, not your militant. Can you consider resigning? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thierry_Caro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thierry Caro (page does not exist)">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z-Hello_Stephen!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:18, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z-Hello_Stephen!"><span id="ooui-php-59" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z-Hello_Stephen!"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jalexander-WMF-2015-09-03T17:01:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span>If you have a concern about the policy choices or the fact that the WMF is doing any policy at all then I encourage you to discuss the substance of that here, on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Public_policy" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Public policy">Talk:Public_policy</a> or somewhere else that makes sense. However ad hominem attacks such as sarcastically suggesting that someone consider resigning, especially this early on in the discussion, are neither constructive nor necessary and seems engineered to anger and insult rather then help to make things better. I would recommend that neither Stephen, nor anyone else, respond to this thread unless you're willing to alter your approach and discuss the content. <a href="/wiki/User:Jalexander-WMF" title="User:Jalexander-WMF">Jalexander</a>--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation" class="extiw" title="w:Wikimedia Foundation">WMF</a> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Jalexander-WMF-2015-09-03T17:01:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jalexander-WMF-2015-09-03T17:01:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-60" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jalexander-WMF-2015-09-03T17:01:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T22:04:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span>Sadly enough, we are not early in a discussion. We are after an action, for the website is there, online, and already claiming that those behind Wikipedia are fighting governments and such things. Stephen is responsible for this website and so for the breach the website creates in neutrality. It is my responsibility to ask for him resigning. He is young and probably talented. He will find a better job where he will not have to betray those who worked for free for an ideal of neutrality for ten years. I know it won't stop the initiative but at least Stephen and me will both be happier. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Thierry_Caro&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Thierry Caro (page does not exist)">Thierry Caro</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thierry_Caro" title="User talk:Thierry Caro">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T22:04:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:04, 3 September 2015 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T22:04:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-61" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T22:04:00.000Z-Thierry_Caro-2015-09-03T03:18:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="'05" data-mw-thread-id="h-'05-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z"><span id=".2705"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-'05-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z"></span>'05<span data-mw-comment-end="h-'05-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: '05"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Sj-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z-'05">8 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sj-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z-'05"></span>Thanks for catching that old pair of edits. Delightful! <span style="background-color:white;color:#bbb;">–<a href="/wiki/User:Sj" title="User:Sj">SJ</a><small> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sj" title="User talk:Sj"><font style="color:#f90;">talk</font></a> </small></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Sj-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z-'05" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 27 June 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sj-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z-'05"><span id="ooui-php-62" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sj-2016-06-27T17:45:00.000Z-'05"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="PGP_key" data-mw-thread-id="h-PGP_key-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-PGP_key-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z"></span>PGP key<span data-mw-comment-end="h-PGP_key-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: PGP key"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2016-12-15T21:05:00.000Z-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z">7 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>2 people in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z-PGP_key"></span>Hi Stephen! </p><p>Is <code>06A6 EF5E 19B5 A825 42AD 9243 B676 76D9 17CF 5CE5</code> your current PGP key for your wikimedia.org email address? I'd like to send you something. Mine, <code>6C93 1191 2E9A 86F5 51E7 5092 5A45 9CBA 4070 0C47</code>. </p><p>Best regards from WMES, --<span style="font-size:95%;"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Abi%C3%A1n&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Abián (page does not exist)">abi</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abi%C3%A1n" title="User talk:Abián">án</a></span> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z-PGP_key" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 12 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z-PGP_key"><span id="ooui-php-63" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z-PGP_key"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2016-12-15T21:05:00.000Z-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z"></span>Yes, <code>06A6 EF5E 19B5 ...</code> is my PGP key. <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Stephen LaPorte (WMF)</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2016-12-15T21:05:00.000Z-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 15 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Slaporte_(WMF)-2016-12-15T21:05:00.000Z-Abián-2016-12-12T21:35:00.000Z"><span id="ooui-php-64" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span 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href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Legal/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Yair_rand-2017-03-07T21:49:00.000Z-Legal/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline">7 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yair_rand-2017-03-07T21:49:00.000Z-Legal/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline"></span>Do you happen to know if the <a href="/wiki/Legal/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline" title="Legal/Foundation Policy and Political Association Guideline">WMF Policy and Political Association Guideline</a> is still in effect? --<a href="/wiki/User:Yair_rand" title="User:Yair rand">Yair rand</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yair_rand" title="User talk:Yair rand">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Yair_rand-2017-03-07T21:49:00.000Z-Legal/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yair_rand-2017-03-07T21:49:00.000Z-Legal/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline"><span id="ooui-php-65" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget 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data-mw-thread-id="h-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z"></span>question related to the US copyright status of the artwork with Non-U.S. copyrights<span data-mw-comment-end="h-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: question related to the US copyright status of the artwork with Non-U.S. copyrights"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Armenius_vambery-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig">6 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Armenius_vambery-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig"></span>Dear User Slaporte, different opinions related to the US copyright status of the image uploaded to Commons originated in f-USSR. If cannot find consensus, could we ask you to take a look? If not who is the right contact? Thanks,--<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Armenius_vambery&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Armenius vambery (page does not exist)">Armenius vambery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Armenius_vambery" title="User talk:Armenius vambery">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Armenius_vambery-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:59, 30 May 2018 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Armenius_vambery-2018-05-30T14:59:00.000Z-question_related_to_the_US_copyright_status_of_the_artwork_with_Non-U.S._copyrig"><span id="ooui-php-66" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" 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class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Input"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-21T15:16:00.000Z-Input">5 years ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-21T15:16:00.000Z-Input"></span>sought over <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_filter_noticeboard#Open_mailing_list_to_edit_filter_helpers?" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Edit filter noticeboard">en:Wikipedia:Edit_filter_noticeboard#Open_mailing_list_to_edit_filter_helpers?</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User:Winged Blades of Godric">Winged Blades of Godric</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Winged_Blades_of_Godric" title="User talk:Winged Blades of Godric">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-21T15:16:00.000Z-Input" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 21 November 2019 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-21T15:16:00.000Z-Input"><span id="ooui-php-67" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Winged_Blades_of_Godric-2019-11-21T15:16:00.000Z-Input"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Important_mail_getting_into_junk/spam_folder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Important_mail_getting_into_junk/spam_folder"><span id="Important_mail_getting_into_junk.2Fspam_folder"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Important_mail_getting_into_junk/spam_folder"></span>Important mail getting into junk/spam folder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Important_mail_getting_into_junk/spam_folder"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Important mail getting into junk/spam folder"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>Dear Stephen LaPorte, </p><p>I have sent an e-mail to your (at)wikimedia.org address, but I think it ended up in junk/spam folder. Can you please check your junk/spam mail folders for messages from email address starting with "whistleintheair"? </p><p>Warm regards, whistleintheair </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_German_Wikipedia" data-mw-thread-id="h-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger-20230216110200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger-20230216110200"></span>Open Letter to the Board of Trustees concerning the Arbitration Committee of German Wikipedia<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger-20230216110200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Open Letter to the Board of Trustees concerning the Arbitration Committee of German Wikipedia"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-GFreihalter-20230216110200-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GFreihalter-20230216110200-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger"></span>Dear Stephen LaPorte, </p><p>I would like to inform you about my <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_German_Wikipedia">Open Letter to the Board of Trustees concerning the Arbitration Committee of German Wikipedia</a>. Best regards--<a href="/wiki/User:GFreihalter" title="User:GFreihalter">GFreihalter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GFreihalter" title="User talk:GFreihalter">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-GFreihalter-20230216110200-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:02, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GFreihalter-20230216110200-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger"><span id="ooui-php-68" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GFreihalter-20230216110200-Open_Letter_to_the_Board_of_Trustees_concerning_the_Arbitration_Committee_of_Ger"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit" data-mw-thread-id="h-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit-20230216153800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit-20230216153800"></span>We need your feedback on a tool from the Wikimedia Summit<span data-mw-comment-end="h-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit-20230216153800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: We need your feedback on a tool from the Wikimedia Summit"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Abbad_(WMF)-20230216153800-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Abbad_(WMF)-20230216153800-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit"></span><figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf/page1-240px-Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf.jpg" decoding="async" width="240" height="135" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf/page1-360px-Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3a/Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf/page1-480px-Baserow_guide_Wikimedia_Summit_2022.pdf.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1125"/></a><figcaption>Reminder: the guide to using Baserow, presented during the Wikimedia Summit.</figcaption></figure> <p>Hi! I'm contacting you as one of the participants in the Wikimedia Summit 2022, to kindly ask for your feedback through a <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfZ6s5PzmlsHwYGefAm8CV5qVTQ4TvL1XFn-2wtA3HaBujhMQ/viewform?usp=sf_link">5-10 minute survey to evaluate 'Baserow'</a></b> (note: the survey is on a Google form). </p><p>Baserow was a tool through which participants in the Summit co-created a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://baserow.io/public/grid/1QInEGZMJHSaMOHxPEPVo5DOr8woCxS1PbV0P1wE090">database of Movement Strategy activities</a>. We hope to learn from you how useful it may be to keep using it in the future to help document and connect on Movement Strategy work. </p><p>You are welcome and encouraged to fill out the survey <b>in any language</b>. Your feedback would be <i>very appreciated</i> --<a href="/wiki/User:Abbad_(WMF)" title="User:Abbad (WMF)">Abbad (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Abbad_(WMF)" title="User talk:Abbad (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Abbad_(WMF)-20230216153800-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 16 February 2023 (UTC)</a>.<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Abbad_(WMF)-20230216153800-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit"><span id="ooui-php-69" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Abbad_(WMF)-20230216153800-We_need_your_feedback_on_a_tool_from_the_Wikimedia_Summit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy" data-mw-thread-id="h-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy-20230818225600"><span id="c:Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFiles_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy-20230818225600"></span><a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy" class="extiw" title="c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Hogwarts Legacy">c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Hogwarts Legacy</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy-20230818225600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Hogwarts Legacy"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Yann-20230818225600-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy">1 year ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yann-20230818225600-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy"></span>Hi, It was suggested that the WMF Legal team gives an opinion in this case, as if kept, the WMF will have to deal with take down requests from the copyright holders. In brief, these are videos under a free license from major corporations. Some people contested the validity of the license. Could you please give an opinion, here or on the DR page? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Yann" title="User:Yann">Yann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yann" title="User talk:Yann">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Yann-20230818225600-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:56, 18 August 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yann-20230818225600-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy"><span id="ooui-php-70" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yann-20230818225600-c:Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Hogwarts_Legacy"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group-20240119104300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group-20240119104300"></span>Request for help any questions related to our user group<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group-20240119104300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Request for help any questions related to our user group"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-CapitainAfrika-20240119104300-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group">10 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapitainAfrika-20240119104300-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Slaporte (WMF)</a>, </p><p>French : Nous avons récemment soumis notre demande de reconnaissance à partir de l’adresse de WikiLinguila, mais nous sommes un peu confus de ne pas recevoir un accuse de réception de la part d'un membre d'AffCom pour nous rassurer si la demande peut être à quel niveau et ça nous inquiète un tout petit peu, voilà pourquoi je me permets de vous écrire, veuillez accepter nos sincères excuses et notre considération témoignée puisque nous avons bien conscience que nous devons vous laisser votre temps pour tout traitement de dossier, en attente d’un retour de votre part, nous vous transmettons nos salutations chaleureuses. Merci d’avance Objet: User group request: Wikimedia Community User Group Linguila [minority languages of central africa] </p><p>English : We have recently submitted our application for recognition from WikiLinguila’s address, but we are a little confused not to receive an acknowledgement of receipt or a feedback from an AffCom member to reassure us if the application can be at what level and it worries us a little, this is why I take the liberty of writing to you, please accept our sincere apologies and our consideration shown as we are well aware that we must give you your time for any processing of file, awaiting a return from you, we send you our warm greetings. Thanks in advance Subject: User group request: Wikimedia Community User Group Linguila [minority languages of central africa] </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:CapitainAfrika" title="User:CapitainAfrika">CapitainAfrika</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:CapitainAfrika" title="User talk:CapitainAfrika">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-CapitainAfrika-20240119104300-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-CapitainAfrika-20240119104300-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group"><span id="ooui-php-71" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-CapitainAfrika-20240119104300-Request_for_help_any_questions_related_to_our_user_group"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"></span>Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C-20240502225300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C">6 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>1 comment</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><i><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2024/Announcement_%E2%80%93_vote_reminder" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote reminder"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-RamzyM_(WMF)-20240502225300-Reminder_to_vote_now_to_select_members_of_the_first_U4C"></span>You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.</a> <a class="external text" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-Universal+Code+of+Conduct%2FCoordinating+Committee%2FElection%2F2024%2FAnnouncement+%E2%80%93+vote+reminder&language=&action=page&filter=">Please help translate to your language</a></i></dd></dl> <p>Dear Wikimedian, </p><p>You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process. </p><p>This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the <a href="/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2024" title="Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024">voting page on Meta-wiki</a> to learn more about voting and voter eligibility. </p><p>The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. 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Adlesoft is busy promoting Shirazy on many WMF sites. See <a class="external free" href="https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Adelsoft">https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=Adelsoft</a> </p><p>Related to this editor and person, please consder following: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://sts.ir/%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B7-%D8%A8%D8%A7-%D9%87%D9%84%D8%AF%DB%8C%D9%86%DA%AF-%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%AF/">This website</a> has a wikipedia logo at its foot</li> <li>Clicking that logo leads to <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://wiki.sts.ir/Adel_Shirazy.html">https://wiki.sts.ir/Adel_Shirazy.html</a> which purports to be a WMF site</li> <li>While it has most of the look and feel of a Wikipedia, that is incomplete, and it is hosted within <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://sts.ir/">https://sts.ir/</a>, thus I feel it may be "Passing an Off" as a true WMF site. I am aware that any text on a real WMF site is able to be used under the the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">CC BY-SA 4.0 License</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License" class="extiw" title="wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License">GFDL</a>, but WMF may have technical reasons for objecting</li></ul> <p>I'm asking you because you are best placed to determine whether the foundation wishes to act. </p><p>I'd appreciate a courtesy ping of acknowledgement. Obviously you will not tell me anything about any course of action <a href="/wiki/User:Timtrent" title="User:Timtrent">Timtrent</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Timtrent" title="User talk:Timtrent">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Timtrent-20240702135800-Potential_Passing_Off" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Timtrent-20240702135800-Potential_Passing_Off"><span id="ooui-php-73" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Timtrent-20240702135800-Potential_Passing_Off"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below." data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below.-20240810163800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below.-20240810163800"></span>Please respond regarding my suggestion - see link below.<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below.-20240810163800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Please respond regarding my suggestion - see link below."><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-timestampLabel'>Latest comment: <a href="#c-Ooligan-20240818141000-Ooligan-20240810163800">3 months ago</a></span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-commentCountLabel'>2 comments</span><span class='ext-discussiontools-init-section-metaitem ext-discussiontools-init-section-authorCountLabel'>1 person in discussion</span></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooligan-20240810163800-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below."></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Slaporte (WMF)</a>, this is regarding Harcourt images which are under discussion. Some many be deleted from Commons, but more importantly, there may be 10,000's of images valuable to the Commons. </p><p>Please, reply to my request at this link: <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump%2FCopyright#Prelimary_summary">https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump%2FCopyright#Prelimary_summary</a> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump%2FCopyright#Prelimary_summary">[4]</a> Thank you in advance, -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ooligan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ooligan (page does not exist)">Ooligan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooligan" title="User talk:Ooligan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ooligan-20240810163800-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooligan-20240810163800-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below."><span id="ooui-php-74" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooligan-20240810163800-Please_respond_regarding_my_suggestion_-_see_link_below."></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooligan-20240818141000-Ooligan-20240810163800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Slaporte_(WMF)" title="User:Slaporte (WMF)">Slaporte (WMF)</a>, I would appreciate a courtesy of a response to my comments related to Wikimedia Foundation's (WMF) Legal Department. Please see them at the end of the Harcourt discussion. Thanks, -- <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ooligan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ooligan (page does not exist)">Ooligan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooligan" title="User talk:Ooligan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)#c-Ooligan-20240818141000-Ooligan-20240810163800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooligan-20240818141000-Ooligan-20240810163800"><span id="ooui-php-75" class="ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton oo-ui-widget oo-ui-widget-enabled oo-ui-buttonElement oo-ui-buttonElement-frameless oo-ui-labelElement oo-ui-flaggedElement-progressive oo-ui-buttonWidget" data-ooui='{"_":"OO.ui.ButtonWidget","rel":["nofollow"],"framed":false,"label":"Reply","flags":["progressive"],"classes":["ext-discussiontools-init-replybutton"]}'><a role="button" tabindex="0" rel="nofollow" class="oo-ui-buttonElement-button"><span class="oo-ui-iconElement-icon oo-ui-iconElement-noIcon oo-ui-image-progressive"></span><span class="oo-ui-labelElement-label">Reply</span><span class="oo-ui-indicatorElement-indicator oo-ui-indicatorElement-noIndicator oo-ui-image-progressive"></span></a></span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooligan-20240818141000-Ooligan-20240810163800"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&oldid=27391614">https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Slaporte_(WMF)&oldid=27391614</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 3 September 2024, at 05:17.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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