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data-user-profile="/profile/warm_gun/">Warm_Gun</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2021</span><span> • </span><span>3290 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>Spent another thirty to forty minutes editing the arisen in the free DD2 character creator (last "played" in March), which amounted to nothing as I then looked at other people's and saw more interesting faces. No getting around the neck that becomes bigger higher up, however. Like some animal.</p><figure data-align="center" data-size="large" data-img-src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4401868" data-ratio="0.5625" data-width="2560" data-embed-type="image" style="width: 2560px"><a class="fluid-height" style="padding-bottom:56.3%" href="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4401868"><img alt=" " src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg" srcset="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg 2560w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg 1280w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/1659/16590823/4401868-dragon%27sdogma2charactercreator%26storage_2024.11.18-19.02.jpg 480w" sizes="(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px" data-width="1280"></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p>Shoulders are messed up too. They never maintain realistic (attractive) anatomy while providing the hundred sliders.</p><p>The muscles in these character creators are always shitty. Same as in Dark Souls: textures. You can't make muscles with textures, you have to sculpt them.</p><p>Creators all suck ass. So few exceptions that it BARELY depends. Developers have all the needed tools. Players just don't. I will always take a good dev-made character that's more alive in the game over the best lifeless one that a player can make. Any of the protagonists Capcom made in the last six years look more human and interesting than what it takes me hours to make in this shitty editor, or FromSoftware's.</p><p>Just let me find dev-made characters in the world and make my party. Make it so that I can switch them out as needed and make anyone still standing the player character at any time. Characters with backstories and personalities. Would have more interesting conversations in towns and while adventuring.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 18, 2024, 8:43pm" datetime="2024-11-18T20:43:49-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-2" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="outworld222" data-user-profile="/profile/outworld222/"><a href="/profile/outworld222/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for outworld222" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/121/1214765/2600665-gamecube.gif" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/outworld222/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">outworld222</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/outworld222/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">4561</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 3</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357829609" name="js-message-357829609">#2</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/outworld222/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="outworld222" data-user-profile="/profile/outworld222/">outworld222</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2004</span><span> • </span><span>4561 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>What鈥檚 the question?? :P</p><p>Not an area of expertise of mine. 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Used to love creating my own character, but not just about every game has a protagonist and if you don't like them then tough 馃挬 you're stuck with them. </p><p>Loved me the custom characters I made in the Fable & the early Saints Row games.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 18, 2024, 11:49pm" datetime="2024-11-18T23:49:47-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-4" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="R4gn4r0k" data-user-profile="/profile/R4gn4r0k/"><a href="/profile/R4gn4r0k/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for R4gn4r0k" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/109/1095912/4273637-doomen.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/R4gn4r0k/" class="text-small text-bold 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class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><div data-embed-type="video" data-src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggoHV9xB54U" data-width="854" data-height="480"><div class="js-lazy-load-video loading" data-lazy-load="true" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ggoHV9xB54U" height="100%" width="100%" scrolling="no" frameborder="" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen>Loading Video...</div></div><p></p><p>In dragons dogma 2 I made Shadowheart, I think she fits in the setting.</p><p>In other games (soccer, RPGs, saints row) I try to make a character as ugly as possible.</p><p></p><p></p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 19, 2024, 12:02am" datetime="2024-11-19T00:02:21-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div class="js-mapped-ad mapped-ad mapped-native-top mapped-native-top-dart ad--forum-native" 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I usually flip between randomly generated faces, pick one I think looks ok, then change it to look a little bit more like me.</p><p>When you start adjusting a characters neck fat, that's just going too far. I'm not gonna sit and make a character for 5 hours when there's a game to play.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 19, 2024, 1:20am" datetime="2024-11-19T01:20:19-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-6" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="deactivated-67413c4dcb898" data-user-profile="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/"><a href="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for deactivated-67413c4dcb898" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1512/15126103/2715185-default-avatar_thumb.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">deactivated-67413c4dcb898</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">486</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357829724" name="js-message-357829724">#6</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="deactivated-67413c4dcb898" data-user-profile="/profile/deactivated-67413c4dcb898/">deactivated-67413c4dcb898</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2022</span><span> • </span><span>486 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p> When I played Skyrim the first time, I thought I would spend a bunch of time making my character. I actually didn't, I got frustrated with the character creator and went for a pre-made one, which I think looks okay.</p><p>I like some degree of character creation, but the sweet spot is probably something like what WoW has. Let people customize hair, face, eyes, colors, etc, but keep the character model pretty much the same.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 19, 2024, 4:50am" datetime="2024-11-19T04:50:55-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-7" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="mrbojangles25" data-user-profile="/profile/mrbojangles25/"><a href="/profile/mrbojangles25/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for mrbojangles25" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/113/1137522/3373024-2733668061-tumbl.gif" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/mrbojangles25/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">mrbojangles25</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/mrbojangles25/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">60044</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 11</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357829738" name="js-message-357829738">#7</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/mrbojangles25/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="mrbojangles25" data-user-profile="/profile/mrbojangles25/">mrbojangles25</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2005</span><span> • </span><span>60044 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p> My trend of late is to make a Victra characte, from the "Red Rising" series of sci-fi novels.</p><p>Basically a space Amazon woman. No, not Futurama giant woman, but like....a space warrior woman. A space valkyr. A 7-foot tall genetically modified platinum blonde, golden-eye death goddess. With scars and minimal makeup.</p><p>I love in-depth character creators, they're fun to mess with, but I tend to lack the patience to spend ALL the time I need to get it right lol.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 19, 2024, 5:15am" datetime="2024-11-19T05:15:54-08:00">5 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-8" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="judaspete" data-user-profile="/profile/judaspete/"><a href="/profile/judaspete/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for judaspete" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/213/2135954/3264896-joe.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/judaspete/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">judaspete</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/judaspete/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">7818</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 4</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830212" name="js-message-357830212">#8</a><span> </span> Edited By <a href="/profile/judaspete/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="judaspete" data-user-profile="/profile/judaspete/">judaspete</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2005</span><span> • </span><span>7818 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>I'm kind of a geek for character creation. Like, I put a fair amount of time into Black Desert Online that was mostly spent customizing characters. That game might have the best one out there as far as amount of customization options, to bad the game itself is just okay. Saints Row series comes close, and Soul Calibur has a good one too.</p><p>Rewgle made a good point that sometimes less is more though. I've been replaying Phantasy Star Online recently, and while character creation is a bit rudimentary by modern standards, it does kinda allow your mind to fill in the details. I even used an AI image generator (another rabbit hole I've been digging around in) to explore what they would look like "in real life", because I'm definitely not a weirdo making mental fan-fic about my own game characters :)</p><figure data-align="center" data-size="large" data-img-src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402459-screenshotdex2crop.png" data-ref-id="1300-4402459" data-ratio="1.6268939393939" data-width="528" data-embed-type="image" style="width: 528px"><a class="fluid-height" style="padding-bottom:162.7%" href="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402459-screenshotdex2crop.png" data-ref-id="1300-4402459"><img alt=" " src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402459-screenshotdex2crop.png" srcset="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402459-screenshotdex2crop.png 528w" sizes="(max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px" data-width="528"></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><figure data-align="center" 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No, not Futurama giant woman, but like....a space warrior woman. </p></div></div><p>I go full-on "death by snu snu" if the game will let me :)</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 19, 2024, 11:30pm" datetime="2024-11-19T23:30:39-08:00">4 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-10" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="judaspete" data-user-profile="/profile/judaspete/"><a href="/profile/judaspete/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for judaspete" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/213/2135954/3264896-joe.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/judaspete/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">judaspete</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/judaspete/toggle-follow/" 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Last Dragon, made in Soul Calibur VI.</p><figure data-align="left" data-size="medium" data-img-src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402945-4202818-rayataki.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4402945" data-ratio="0.5625" data-width="1280" data-embed-type="image" style="width: 1280px"><a class="fluid-height" style="padding-bottom:56.3%" href="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402945-4202818-rayataki.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4402945"><img alt=" " src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/213/2135954/4402945-4202818-rayataki.jpg" srcset="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/213/2135954/4402945-4202818-rayataki.jpg 1280w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/213/2135954/4402945-4202818-rayataki.jpg 480w" sizes="(max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px" data-width="480"></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p></p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 20, 2024, 11:10am" 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class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830635" name="js-message-357830635">#11</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="last_lap" data-user-profile="/profile/last_lap/">Last_Lap</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2023</span><span> • </span><span>9385 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-embed-type="mention">@Litchie</span>: </span>Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel you lack imagination.</p><p>I love creating things, be it humans for games or car designs in Forza (I usely spend around 50hrs creating paint jobs for my cars with custom decals etc) to playing around in the game world of the Just Cause games, some of the best open world games there are.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 20, 2024, 2:00pm" datetime="2024-11-20T14:00:46-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-12" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-user-profile="/profile/Litchie/"><a href="/profile/Litchie/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Litchie" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/78/789190/3624971-3624966-8412694824-81-yh.png" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Litchie/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Litchie</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" 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Instead of being annoyed that my character doesn't become what I want quicker, I'm happy with creating a character that looks good enough, so that I can get to the real meat of the game.</p><p>I'm plenty imaginative with other things though. When playing crafting/survival games with friends, I'm the one who builds the most. Got almost 200 hours of gametime in Valheim, and at least a half of that was spent building.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 12:27am" datetime="2024-11-21T00:27:17-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-13" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="last_lap" data-user-profile="/profile/last_lap/"><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for last_lap" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1820/18206374/4213282-f4f0.gif" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Last_Lap</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/last_lap/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">9385</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830837" name="js-message-357830837">#13</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="last_lap" data-user-profile="/profile/last_lap/">Last_Lap</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2023</span><span> • </span><span>9385 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p></p><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><div><span href="/profile/Litchie/" rel="" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Litchie">@Litchie</span> said:</div><div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/last_lap/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="last_lap">@last_lap</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-embed-type="mention">@Litchie</span>: </span>Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel you lack imagination.</p><p>I love creating things, be it humans for games or car designs in Forza (I usely spend around 50hrs creating paint jobs for my cars with custom decals etc) to playing around in the game world of the Just Cause games, some of the best open world games there are.</p></div></div><p>I've grown tired of tinkering with character creations (which also has to do with me often finding them cumbersome to use). Instead of being annoyed that my character doesn't become what I want quicker, I'm happy with creating a character that looks good enough, so that I can get to the real meat of the game.</p><p>I'm plenty imaginative with other things though. When playing crafting/survival games with friends, I'm the one who builds the most. Got almost 200 hours of gametime in Valheim, and at least a half of that was spent building.</p></div></div><p>Ah ok fair enough. I'm kinda the opposite as I feel there aren't many games with custom character creations anymore, or maybe i'm just not playing the right games. </p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 12:50am" datetime="2024-11-21T00:50:28-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-14" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-user-profile="/profile/Litchie/"><a href="/profile/Litchie/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Litchie" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/78/789190/3624971-3624966-8412694824-81-yh.png" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Litchie/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Litchie</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Litchie/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">35650</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 13</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830839" name="js-message-357830839">#14</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/Litchie/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Litchie" data-user-profile="/profile/Litchie/">Litchie</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2003</span><span> • </span><span>35650 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p></p><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><div><span href="/profile/last_lap/" rel="" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="last_lap">@last_lap</span> said:</div><div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Litchie">@Litchie</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/last_lap/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="last_lap">@last_lap</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-embed-type="mention">@Litchie</span>: </span>Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel you lack imagination.</p><p>I love creating things, be it humans for games or car designs in Forza (I usely spend around 50hrs creating paint jobs for my cars with custom decals etc) to playing around in the game world of the Just Cause games, some of the best open world games there are.</p></div></div><p>I've grown tired of tinkering with character creations (which also has to do with me often finding them cumbersome to use). Instead of being annoyed that my character doesn't become what I want quicker, I'm happy with creating a character that looks good enough, so that I can get to the real meat of the game.</p><p>I'm plenty imaginative with other things though. When playing crafting/survival games with friends, I'm the one who builds the most. Got almost 200 hours of gametime in Valheim, and at least a half of that was spent building.</p></div></div><p>Ah ok fair enough. I'm kinda the opposite as I feel there aren't many games with custom character creations anymore, or maybe i'm just not playing the right games.</p></div></div><p>I think most RPGs and action RPGs have it now. Probably why I'm tired of it.</p><p>Play Dark Souls, Elden Ring and Monster Hunter after eachother, and you'd probaby feel the same. :P</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 12:54am" datetime="2024-11-21T00:54:21-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-15" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Jag85" data-user-profile="/profile/Jag85/"><a href="/profile/Jag85/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Jag85" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/157/1576526/3666003-1021839768-thumb.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Jag85/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Jag85</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Jag85/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">20370</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 219</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830843" name="js-message-357830843">#15</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/Jag85/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Jag85" data-user-profile="/profile/Jag85/">Jag85</a>  <span class="text-xsmall message-role role-online">Online</span><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2005</span><span> • </span><span>20370 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>Never been a fan of character creation. I've always preferred pre-defined characters.</p><p></p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 12:59am" datetime="2024-11-21T00:59:31-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-16" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="last_lap" data-user-profile="/profile/last_lap/"><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for last_lap" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1820/18206374/4213282-f4f0.gif" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Last_Lap</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/last_lap/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">9385</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830846" name="js-message-357830846">#16</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/last_lap/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="last_lap" data-user-profile="/profile/last_lap/">Last_Lap</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2023</span><span> • </span><span>9385 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p></p><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><div><span href="/profile/Litchie/" rel="" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Litchie">@Litchie</span> said:</div><div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/last_lap/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="last_lap">@last_lap</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Litchie">@Litchie</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/last_lap/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="last_lap">@last_lap</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Litchie/" data-user-slug="Litchie" data-embed-type="mention">@Litchie</span>: </span>Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel you lack imagination.</p><p>I love creating things, be it humans for games or car designs in Forza (I usely spend around 50hrs creating paint jobs for my cars with custom decals etc) to playing around in the game world of the Just Cause games, some of the best open world games there are.</p></div></div><p>I've grown tired of tinkering with character creations (which also has to do with me often finding them cumbersome to use). Instead of being annoyed that my character doesn't become what I want quicker, I'm happy with creating a character that looks good enough, so that I can get to the real meat of the game.</p><p>I'm plenty imaginative with other things though. When playing crafting/survival games with friends, I'm the one who builds the most. Got almost 200 hours of gametime in Valheim, and at least a half of that was spent building.</p></div></div><p>Ah ok fair enough. I'm kinda the opposite as I feel there aren't many games with custom character creations anymore, or maybe i'm just not playing the right games.</p></div></div><p>I think most RPGs and action RPGs have it now. Probably why I'm tired of it.</p><p>Play Dark Souls, Elden Ring and Monster Hunter after eachother, and you'd probaby feel the same. :P</p></div></div><p>You can keep Froms stuff, still have Monster Hunter but never started it for some reason.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 1:07am" datetime="2024-11-21T01:07:37-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-17" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Maroxad" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/554/5540228/2758383-0752579806-tumbl.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Maroxad</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Maroxad/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">24899</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830862" name="js-message-357830862">#17</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/">Maroxad</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2007</span><span> • </span><span>24899 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>I think they can be fun in RPGs. The point of RPGs is *Roleplaying*, predefined protagonists in RPGs alone can make me lose interest. One of the reasons I never cared for The Witcher.</p><p>Also give the players a few default templates to go with that.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 2:32am" datetime="2024-11-21T02:32:43-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-18" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="theidiotsun" data-user-profile="/profile/theidiotsun/"><a href="/profile/theidiotsun/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for theidiotsun" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1845/18453548/4386645-cross.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/theidiotsun/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">TheIdiotSun</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/theidiotsun/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">132</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830876" name="js-message-357830876">#18</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/theidiotsun/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="theidiotsun" data-user-profile="/profile/theidiotsun/">TheIdiotSun</a>  <span class="text-xsmall message-role role-online">Online</span><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2024</span><span> • </span><span>132 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>I always go with my own boring ass looks. Shaved hair, blue eyes, red beard.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 3:41am" datetime="2024-11-21T03:41:36-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-19" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="warm_gun" data-user-profile="/profile/warm_gun/"><a href="/profile/warm_gun/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for warm_gun" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1659/16590823/4391744-ebichugt.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/warm_gun/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Warm_Gun</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/warm_gun/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">3290</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830962" name="js-message-357830962">#19</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/warm_gun/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="warm_gun" data-user-profile="/profile/warm_gun/">Warm_Gun</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2021</span><span> • </span><span>3290 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Maroxad/" data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-embed-type="mention">@Maroxad</span>: </span>Drawing your own character has nothing to do with role-playing. You play out the role that the designers have written and designed by making choices.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 7:39am" datetime="2024-11-21T07:39:34-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-20" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Maroxad" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/554/5540228/2758383-0752579806-tumbl.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Maroxad</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Maroxad/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">24899</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357830963" name="js-message-357830963">#20</a><span> </span> Edited By <a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/">Maroxad</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2007</span><span> • </span><span>24899 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/warm_gun/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="warm_gun">@warm_gun</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p><span data-message-user="reply"><span href="/profile/Maroxad/" data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-embed-type="mention">@Maroxad</span>: </span>Drawing your own character has nothing to do with role-playing. You play out the role that the designers have written and designed by making choices.</p></div></div><p>Making your own character has a LOT to do with roleplaying. Try looking back at the genre's roots.</p><p>Roleplaying as predefined protagonists is lame as hell. With the exception of The Nameless One and Harry Du Bois.</p><p>One of the big mistakes BioWare made, was that they would try to increasingly define your protagonist, same with Bethesda. The excessive defining of the protag was one of the most criticized parts of Fallout 4 and Dragon Age 2.</p><p>Edit: THere is no design choice that is inherently right or wrong in gaming. Baldur's Gate 3 would be a lesser game without the custom protagonist. But creating a custom character in Super Mario Bros would be pointless.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 7:46am" datetime="2024-11-21T07:46:16-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-21" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="SecretPolice" data-user-profile="/profile/SecretPolice/"><a href="/profile/SecretPolice/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for SecretPolice" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/510/5100943/2550595-halo_3_16_140.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/SecretPolice/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">SecretPolice</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/SecretPolice/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall 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data-align="left" data-size="small" data-img-src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4403352" data-ratio="0.5625" data-width="3840" data-embed-type="image" style="width: 3840px"><a class="fluid-height" style="padding-bottom:56.3%" href="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg" data-ref-id="1300-4403352"><img alt=" " src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_small/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg" srcset="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg 3840w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_super/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg 1280w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_medium/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg 480w, https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_small/510/5100943/4403352-7185201715-yYFhk.jpg 320w" sizes="(max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px" data-width="320"></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p></p><p>lol :P</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 7:50am" datetime="2024-11-21T07:50:31-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-22" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Sushiglutton" data-user-profile="/profile/Sushiglutton/"><a href="/profile/Sushiglutton/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Sushiglutton" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1105/11058539/2355336-2355335-me.png" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Sushiglutton/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Sushiglutton</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Sushiglutton/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" 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So many cool character designs over the years. That a total clueless person like me should sit there and design my own character is insane! Like the Police ^^ I used default Sheperd 馃槀. I never spend any time in character creators tbh.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 8:46am" datetime="2024-11-21T08:46:24-08:00">3 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-23" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Planeforger" data-user-profile="/profile/Planeforger/"><a href="/profile/Planeforger/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Planeforger" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/112/1129576/2315921-5799845273-777f2.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Planeforger/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Planeforger</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Planeforger/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">19872</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 1</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357831204" name="js-message-357831204">#23</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/Planeforger/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Planeforger" data-user-profile="/profile/Planeforger/">Planeforger</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2004</span><span> • </span><span>19872 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p></p><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><div><span href="/profile/Maroxad/" rel="" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Maroxad">@Maroxad</span> said:</div><div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p>Making your own character has a LOT to do with roleplaying. Try looking back at the genre's roots.</p><p>Roleplaying as predefined protagonists is lame as hell. With the exception of The Nameless One and Harry Du Bois.</p><p></p></div></div><p>I've changed my mind about that over the years. You can have an excellent roleplaying game with a pre-defined protagonist, and you can have terrible roleplaying games with custom protagonists. </p><p>What's really important is the breadth and depth of roleplaying options available to the player. Being able to customise your character can be a part of that, but it isn't essential.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 21, 2024, 11:49pm" datetime="2024-11-21T23:49:57-08:00">2 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-24" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="sakaixx" data-user-profile="/profile/sakaixx/"><a href="/profile/sakaixx/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for sakaixx" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/1534/15347915/4253839-1000029278.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/sakaixx/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">sakaiXx</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/sakaixx/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">16514</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 8</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 5</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357831219" name="js-message-357831219">#24</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/sakaixx/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="sakaixx" data-user-profile="/profile/sakaixx/">sakaiXx</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2013</span><span> • </span><span>16514 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p>I like creating my character. I dont really care for the lore I just want my created characters to be overpowered.</p></article><div class="message-options"><time class="text-small date" title="Nov 22, 2024, 1:50am" datetime="2024-11-22T01:50:43-08:00">2 days ago</time></div><div class="message-notification-line"></div></div></div></div> <div id="js-message-25" class="message message--forum js-message"><div class="js-avatar-user avatar-user-container" data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class=" "><img alt="Avatar image for Maroxad" src="https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_avatar/554/5540228/2758383-0752579806-tumbl.jpg" /></a><div class="avatar-user-interaction"><header class="avatar-header flexbox-row flexbox-justify-between"><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="text-small text-bold color-white">Maroxad</a><div class="avatar-options"><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Maroxad/toggle-follow/" class="follow btn-toggle text-xsmall color-white" data-toggle-value="Unfollow"><i><svg width="22" height="28" viewBox="0 0 22 28" aria-hidden="true" class="symbol symbol-plus"><path d="M22 11.5v3q0 .625-.438 1.062T20.5 16H14v6.5q0 .625-.438 1.062T12.5 24h-3q-.625 0-1.062-.438T8 22.5V16H1.5q-.625 0-1.062-.438T0 14.5v-3q0-.625.438-1.062T1.5 10H8V3.5q0-.625.438-1.062T9.5 2h3q.625 0 1.062.438T14 3.5V10h6.5q.625 0 1.062.438T22 11.5z"/></svg></i> Follow </a></div></header><section class="avatar-user-stats flexbox-row vertical-spacing-small"><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">24899</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Forum Posts</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Wiki Points</p></div><div class="flexbox-flex-even"><p class="text-center color-white">0</p><p class="text-center text-xsmall color-50">Followers</p></div></section><section class="avatar-user-creation-stats flexbox-row flexbox-justify-center"><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">Reviews:</span> 0</p><p class="text-xsmall color-50"><span class="text-bold color-white">User Lists:</span> 0</p></section></div></div><div class="message-wrap message-wrap--forum"><div class="message-inner message-inner--forum"><div class="message-title"><a href="/forums/system-wars-314159282/character-creation-33628485/?page=1#js-message-357831249" name="js-message-357831249">#25</a><span> </span><a href="/profile/Maroxad/" class="message-user " data-user-slug="Maroxad" data-user-profile="/profile/Maroxad/">Maroxad</a><div class="message-extra-info text-small vertical-spacing-small-top"><span>Member since 2007</span><span> • </span><span>24899 Posts</span></div></div><div class="message-breadcrumb vertical-spacing-top"></div><article class="message-content message-body js-message-body typography-format text-small"><p></p><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><div><span href="/profile/Planeforger/" rel="" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Planeforger">@Planeforger</span> said:</div><div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><div data-embed-type="message-quote"><span href="/profile/Maroxad/" data-target="" data-embed-type="mention" data-ref-id="" data-user-slug="Maroxad">@Maroxad</span> said: <div data-embed-type="message-quote-content"><p>Making your own character has a LOT to do with roleplaying. Try looking back at the genre's roots.</p><p>Roleplaying as predefined protagonists is lame as hell. With the exception of The Nameless One and Harry Du Bois.</p></div></div><p>I've changed my mind about that over the years. You can have an excellent roleplaying game with a pre-defined protagonist, and you can have terrible roleplaying games with custom protagonists.</p><p>What's really important is the breadth and depth of roleplaying options available to the player. Being able to customise your character can be a part of that, but it isn't essential.</p></div></div><p>Yup, it worked well for Disco Elysium. Who utilized a predefined protag really well. Ultimately there is no right and wrong answer here. 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