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[[User:Temerarius|Temerarius]] ([[User talk:Temerarius|talk]]) 19:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>I added the requested citation in the top for the Amorite spelling. [[User:Temerarius|Temerarius]] ([[User talk:Temerarius|talk]]) 19:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>== What a bizarre article ==</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>It's written like a narrative.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>No "according to", no "he/she found", but a narrative as if this is gender theory, which it isn't.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>"Episodes in the Tanakh show a gender imbalance in the Hebrew religion: the texts state their patriarchal nature. Asherah was patronized by female royals such as the [[Gebirah|Queen Mother]] [[Maacah]] (1 Kings 15:13). But Asherah was tremendously popular and was worshiped within the household and her offerings were performed by family matriarchs."</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>this is simply a lot of uncredited presuppositions which have no relevance to the article of Asherah.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Gender imbalance in the religion?</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Okay, says who? More importantly, what does it have to do with Asherah? There were dozens of female goddesses, if that's the raison d'etre for this paragraph at all.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>"as yām (Hebrew: יָם) is a common western Semitic root that literally means "sea"."</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>this could have been "literally" summed up as</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>"Yam, "sea" in Hebrew".</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>then there's even a picture of gold items, reading -</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>"Gold items are good to seek examples of continuity between middle and late bronze ages. A lesser example of the "plaque" goddess and fine examples of the Ω yoni, a general-purpose fertility charm. Pic"</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>you can't make this up. Absolute zero continuity between paragraphs.</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><br /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>Some of its references are of a biologist named Amzalleg which was critically panned (that is to say, everyone and their sister think they can be experts on biblical theory, while in reality it's very much based on actual diggings, historical linguistics and a some interpretation, at its core it's not a social studies subject)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>At this stage, this seems like a stream of consciousness original work, bordering on a hoax, not an actual article. 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It wasn’t the norm, it was looked down upon. And they didn’t start believing in one G-d only after the Babylonian exile. Whoever wrote this must check the sources again. As a Jewish historian I say this is completely false. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Jake_pres&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Jake pres (page does not exist)">Jake pres</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jake_pres" title="User talk:Jake pres">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Jake_pres-2022-01-09T14:06:00.000Z-Israelites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 9 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jake_pres-2022-01-09T14:06:00.000Z-Israelites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jake_pres-2022-01-09T14:06:00.000Z-Israelites"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z-Israelites"></span>What kind of historian ignores that Jewish monotheism is a relatively late phenomenon? <a href="/wiki/User:Dimadick" title="User:Dimadick">Dimadick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimadick" title="User talk:Dimadick">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z-Israelites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z-Israelites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z-Israelites"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150200-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z"></span>G-d is the correct Jewish spelling of God. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5" title="Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5">2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150200-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150200-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150200-Dimadick-2022-01-10T16:59:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Minimalists_vs._maximalists" data-mw-thread-id="h-Minimalists_vs._maximalists-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Minimalists_vs._maximalists-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z"></span>Minimalists vs. maximalists<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Minimalists_vs._maximalists-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span>Genuine minimalists are select few. Genuine maximalists are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a> (usually fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals). Most mainstream scholars are neither minimalists nor maximalists. </p><p>Where minimalism failed: it could not remove the Bible from Levantine archaeology. For the rest (i.e. 90% of their claims) they scored victory, defining thus the views of mainstream scholarship. </p><p><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS/AC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS/AC">WP:RS/AC</a> evidence to that extent: <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFGrabbe2017" class="citation book cs1">Grabbe, Lester L. (23 February 2017). <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=4lzyDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA36"><i>Ancient Israel: What Do We Know and How Do We Know It?: Revised Edition</i></a>. Bloomsbury Publishing. p. 36. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-567-67044-1" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-567-67044-1"><bdi>978-0-567-67044-1</bdi></a>. <q>The impression one has now is that the debate has settled down. Although they do not seem to admit it, the minimalists have triumphed in many ways. That is, most scholars reject the historicity of the 'patriarchal period', see the settlement as mostly made up of indigenous inhabitants of Canaan and are cautious about the early monarchy. The exodus is rejected or assumed to be based on an event much different from the biblical account. On the other hand, there is not the widespread rejection of the biblical text as a historical source that one finds among the main minimalists. There are few, if any, maximalists (defined as those who accept the biblical text unless it can be absolutely disproved) in mainstream scholarship, only on the more fundamentalist fringes.</q></cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Ancient+Israel%3A+What+Do+We+Know+and+How+Do+We+Know+It%3F%3A+Revised+Edition&rft.pages=36&rft.pub=Bloomsbury+Publishing&rft.date=2017-02-23&rft.isbn=978-0-567-67044-1&rft.aulast=Grabbe&rft.aufirst=Lester+L.&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Fbooks.google.com%2Fbooks%3Fid%3D4lzyDQAAQBAJ%26pg%3DPA36&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AAsherah" class="Z3988"></span> </p><p>Note that Grabbe was applauded for remaining neutral in the quarrel between minimalists and maximalists, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/23970868">https://www.jstor.org/stable/23970868</a> . <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T18:25:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a>:</span> The morals is that promoting extreme fringe views, such as maximalism, is not well-received here, at Wikipedia. We don't deny the overwhelming consensus of mainstream historians, mainstream archaeologists and mainstream Bible scholars for the sake of a vocal group consisting of religious fundamentalists and conservative evangelicals. </p><p>We don't care about how Liberty University teaches it, we mostly care about how the Ivy League teaches it. We are biased for highly reputable, mainstream scholarship, see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHOPSY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHOPSY">WP:CHOPSY</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z"></span>I am surprised to learn that Yosef Garfinkel, Benjamin Mazar, and Eilat Mazar are fringe scholars.</dd> <dd>For what its worth, I disagree with probably more than 80% of what Liberty University teaches about the contents of the Bible. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Itinerantlife" title="User talk:Itinerantlife">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T21:57:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a>:</span> Neither of the three scholars came out as maximalist. They stated that the United Monarchy did exist, in one form or another, but that's not the same as maximalism. See e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://watchjerusalem.co.il/1342-an-interview-with-yosef-garfinkel">https://watchjerusalem.co.il/1342-an-interview-with-yosef-garfinkel</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z"></span>Then maybe I am mistaken as to the meaning of the term "maximalism." I had thought that maximalism focused on seeking to establish the historicity of the events which the Tanakh alleges occurred but which does not attempt to corroborate the claims of divine intervention. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Itinerantlife" title="User talk:Itinerantlife">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:15:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a>:</span> No archaeologist claims divine intervention, unless they belong to the lunatic fringe. Another take on this: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bibleplaces.com/blog/2011/05/maximalists-vs-minimalists-good-survey/">https://www.bibleplaces.com/blog/2011/05/maximalists-vs-minimalists-good-survey/</a> (do mind that Bolen has a PhD from <a href="/wiki/Dallas_Theological_Seminary" title="Dallas Theological Seminary">Dallas Theological Seminary</a>, which affirms the inerrancy of the Bible as a binding for all its students, teachers and professors, so Bolen isn't a disinterested party to this dispute). <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-19T23:23:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z"></span>Now I am really confused.</dd> <dd>You told me that the Mazars and Garfinkel are not maximalists but it sounds as if Bolen is claiming that they are maximalists.</dd> <dd>Could you explain to me what agnostic maximalists believe which the Mazars and Garfinkel don't believe? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Itinerantlife" title="User talk:Itinerantlife">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:54, 20 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-19T23:27:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a>:</span> There are good, older quotes about that at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Omri#More_prominent_Omride_theory" title="Talk:Omri">talk:omri#More prominent Omride theory</a>.</dd> <dd>To sum up, the view that David and Solomon did have some kingdom is not an extreme view. The view that they did not have a kingdom is not an extreme view, either.</dd> <dd>There are great architectonic works which prove Omri's power. There are no comparable buildings for either David or Solomon.</dd> <dd>There is still evidence of Omri's buildings even if a subsequent dynasty tried to wipe out the memory and traces of the Omrides. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 21 January 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-01-20T01:54:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z"></span>You better add <a href="/wiki/Manfred_Bietak" title="Manfred Bietak">Manfred Bietak</a> of the University of Vienna to the list of people who you blacklist and censor because he argues that at least part of the Exodus narrative is supported by archæological evidence. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/exodus/exodus-fact-or-fiction/">https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/exodus/exodus-fact-or-fiction/</a> <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Itinerantlife" title="User talk:Itinerantlife">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z-Tgeorgescu-2022-01-21T00:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-14T19:10:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Itinerantlife&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Itinerantlife (page does not exist)">Itinerantlife</a>:</span> There is a kernel of historical truth in the story of the Exodus, but it is deeply hidden under layers of cruft and embellishment. Besides, as Joel Baden argued, the Bible has at least 4 (four) contradictory stories of the Exodus, so it depends which story of the Exodus from the Bible you mean. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5lt5E3eXU"><span class="plainlinks">Canaanites Were Israelites & There Was No Exodus - Dr. Joel Baden</span></a> on <a href="/wiki/YouTube_video_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="YouTube video (identifier)">YouTube</a>. Check the transcript, search for "pentagonal" (i.e. Pentateuchal). <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-14T19:10:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-14T19:10:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-14T19:10:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-19T04:26:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>The author admits that Jerusalem in those days was too small to be a regional force. The author also admits that the total population of all of Judah and Benjamin in the Iron IIA period would have been at most about 20,000 people, and that this horde "provides a sufficient demographic basis for an Israelite state in the 10th century BCE." At least half of those people would have been women, and at least half would have been children, so even if every able bodied man and boy able to wave a stick were drafted, the army would have been maximum 5000 strong. Hardly the regional super-power of the Bible stories.<br/><span class="talkquote-by">— <a href="/wiki/User:Wdford" title="User:Wdford">User:Wdford</a></span></p></blockquote></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Wdford" title="User:Wdford">Wdford</a> writing about a paper by <a href="/wiki/Amihai_Mazar" title="Amihai Mazar">Amihai Mazar</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-19T04:26:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:26, 19 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-19T04:26:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-2022-04-19T04:26:00.000Z-Itinerantlife-2022-04-14T18:50:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span>In the sidebar there is a bit of information listing this as a 'Major Cult Middle East'. Considering the modern connotations of 'cult' is calling what seems to have been a religion, or a branch of a religion, a cult a loaded term without the characteristics associated with 'cults' today? <a href="/wiki/User:Nacoran" title="User:Nacoran">Nacoran</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nacoran" title="User talk:Nacoran">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 27 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z-Minimalists_vs._maximalists"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimadick-2022-03-29T14:31:00.000Z-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z"></span>See main article <a href="/wiki/Cult_(religious_practice)" title="Cult (religious practice)">cult (religious practice)</a>. It refers to cultic practices, such as the creation of <a href="/wiki/Temple" title="Temple">temples</a>, <a href="/wiki/Shrine" title="Shrine">shrines</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cult_image" title="Cult image">cult images</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Votive_offering" title="Votive offering">votive offerings</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Dimadick" title="User:Dimadick">Dimadick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimadick" title="User talk:Dimadick">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Dimadick-2022-03-29T14:31:00.000Z-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dimadick-2022-03-29T14:31:00.000Z-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dimadick-2022-03-29T14:31:00.000Z-Nacoran-2022-03-27T21:17:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Original_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Original_research-20230111033300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Original_research-20230111033300"></span>Original research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Original_research-20230111033300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="example deprecated-content example-bad" style="font-family: Georgia, 'DejaVu Serif', serif; color: var(--color-content-removed, #8B0000);"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300-Original_research"></span>No "original research" at all. The Hebrew language is clear in its meaning, if you don’t like what it says it’s not my fault.</span> We don't care about what you say, we care about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>: not printed anywhere, so it is <i>you</i> who drew such conclusion, textbook case of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a>. </p><p>Besides, "sacred prostitution" nowhere and "never took place". Source: <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFCoogan2010" class="citation book cs1">Coogan, Michael (October 2010). <span class="id-lock-registration" title="Free registration required"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://archive.org/details/godsexwhatbi00coog"><i>God and Sex: What the Bible Really Says</i></a></span> (1st ed.). New York, Boston: Twelve. Hachette Book Group. p. 133. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-446-54525-9" title="Special:BookSources/978-0-446-54525-9"><bdi>978-0-446-54525-9</bdi></a>. <a href="/wiki/OCLC_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="OCLC (identifier)">OCLC</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://search.worldcat.org/oclc/505927356">505927356</a><span class="reference-accessdate">. Retrieved <span class="nowrap">May 5,</span> 2011</span>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=God+and+Sex%3A+What+the+Bible+Really+Says&rft.place=New+York%2C+Boston&rft.pages=133&rft.edition=1st&rft.pub=Twelve.+Hachette+Book+Group&rft.date=2010-10&rft_id=info%3Aoclcnum%2F505927356&rft.isbn=978-0-446-54525-9&rft.aulast=Coogan&rft.aufirst=Michael&rft_id=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdetails%2Fgodsexwhatbi00coog&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3ATalk%3AAsherah" class="Z3988"></span> Meaning: it was always just a rumor, and always spread by foreigners. </p><p>Page at Google Books: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://books.google.com/books?id=laM1AQAAQBAJ&pg=PT83">[1]</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300-Original_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300-Original_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300-Original_research"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Iskandar323-20230111064300-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300"></span>The names and traditions of prominent Canaanite deities are consistently misrepresented in Hebrew scripture to denigrate the traditional rivals to <a href="/wiki/Yahweh" title="Yahweh">Yahweh</a>. This is a common phenomenon. Another example is <a href="/wiki/Baalzebul" class="mw-redirect" title="Baalzebul">Baalzebul</a>, which means something like "Lord of the high place", but which in Hebrew scripture is bastardized into 'Beelzebub' or "Lord of the Flies". <a href="/wiki/User:Iskandar323" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Iskandar323">Iskandar323</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iskandar323" title="User talk:Iskandar323">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Iskandar323-20230111064300-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 11 January 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Iskandar323-20230111064300-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Iskandar323-20230111064300-Tgeorgescu-20230111033300"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230223100700-Iskandar323-20230111064300"></span>Coogan does not deny that there were prostitutes seeking clients around temples, he denies that the prostitutes were working for the temples. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-20230223100700-Iskandar323-20230111064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230223100700-Iskandar323-20230111064300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-20230223100700-Iskandar323-20230111064300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Elijah" data-mw-thread-id="h-Elijah-20230619062300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Elijah-20230619062300"></span><a href="/wiki/Elijah" title="Elijah">Elijah</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Elijah-20230619062300"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-173.88.246.138-20230619062300-Elijah"></span>Shouldn't <a href="/wiki/Elijah" title="Elijah">Elijah</a> be mentioned in the "Worship and suppression" section of this article? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/173.88.246.138" title="Special:Contributions/173.88.246.138">173.88.246.138</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:173.88.246.138" title="User talk:173.88.246.138">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-173.88.246.138-20230619062300-Elijah" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 19 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-173.88.246.138-20230619062300-Elijah"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-173.88.246.138-20230619062300-Elijah"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400-173.88.246.138-20230619062300"></span>WP:CITE</a> your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SOURCES" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SOURCES">WP:SOURCES</a>. Anyway, I don't believe that it was a one man show. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400-173.88.246.138-20230619062300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400-173.88.246.138-20230619062300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400-173.88.246.138-20230619062300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimadick-20230621101200-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400"></span>Probably not, but the anonymous is referring to the biblical narrative of Elijah supposedly defeating "450 prophets of Baal, and 400 prophets of Asherah" at <a href="/wiki/Mount_Carmel" title="Mount Carmel">Mount Carmel</a>. It is typical biblical <a href="/wiki/Propaganda" title="Propaganda">propaganda</a>, but it is a surviving depiction of the cult of Asherah. <a href="/wiki/User:Dimadick" title="User:Dimadick">Dimadick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimadick" title="User talk:Dimadick">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Dimadick-20230621101200-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 21 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dimadick-20230621101200-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dimadick-20230621101200-Tgeorgescu-20230619150400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fringe" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fringe-20230905023900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fringe-20230905023900"></span>Fringe<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fringe-20230905023900"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900-Fringe"></span>Mount Ebal curse tablet is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a>. E.g. <a href="/wiki/Christopher_Rollston" title="Christopher Rollston">Christopher Rollston</a> wrote: “This article is basically a text-book case of the <a href="/wiki/Rorschach_Test" class="mw-redirect" title="Rorschach Test">Rorschach Test</a>, and the authors of this article have projected upon a piece of lead the things they want it to say.” (copy/pasted from <a href="/wiki/Mount_Ebal_curse_tablet" title="Mount Ebal curse tablet">Mount Ebal curse tablet</a>). </p><p>See also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqXkkpk2-_Y"><span class="plainlinks">A "Mt. Ebal Inscription" in the Western Wall? An Example of Cognitive Priming</span></a> on <a href="/wiki/YouTube_video_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="YouTube video (identifier)">YouTube</a>. Or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCGbwNNxZVc"><span class="plainlinks">The So-Called Mt. Ebal "Inscription" Publication: One Big Nothingburger</span></a> on <a href="/wiki/YouTube_video_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="YouTube video (identifier)">YouTube</a>. </p><p>There are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a> claims that are apparently cogent, and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FRINGE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FRINGE">WP:FRINGE</a> claims which are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CB">WP:CB</a>. Mount Ebal curse tablet is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CB">WP:CB</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Tgeorgescu" title="User:Tgeorgescu">tgeorgescu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tgeorgescu" title="User talk:Tgeorgescu">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900-Fringe" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:39, 5 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900-Fringe"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900-Fringe"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dimadick-20230905182300-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900"></span>That the claims are fringe is probably true, but what does this have to do with the Jewish <a href="/wiki/Goddess" title="Goddess">goddess</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Dimadick" title="User:Dimadick">Dimadick</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dimadick" title="User talk:Dimadick">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Dimadick-20230905182300-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 5 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dimadick-20230905182300-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dimadick-20230905182300-Tgeorgescu-20230905023900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Trilletrollet-20230905183100-Dimadick-20230905182300"></span>See <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1173891867" title="Special:Diff/1173891867">this edit</a>. —<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Trilletrollet" title="User:Trilletrollet"><span style="color:mediumvioletred">Trilletrollet</span></a></b></span> <small>[ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Trilletrollet" title="User talk:Trilletrollet">Talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Trilletrollet" title="Special:Contributions/Trilletrollet">Contribs</a> ]</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Trilletrollet-20230905183100-Dimadick-20230905182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Trilletrollet-20230905183100-Dimadick-20230905182300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Trilletrollet-20230905183100-Dimadick-20230905182300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Random_person_no_362478479-20230905194200-Trilletrollet-20230905183100"></span>I don't get it. Even if the claims about the <a href="/wiki/Mount_Ebal_curse_tablet" title="Mount Ebal curse tablet">Mount Ebal curse tablet</a> were true that would only mean that the <a href="/wiki/Tetragrammaton" title="Tetragrammaton">Tetragrammaton</a> is older than previously known. What does that have to do with the question of when Judaism became monotheistic? <a href="/wiki/User:Random_person_no_362478479" title="User:Random person no 362478479">-- Random person no 362478479</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Random_person_no_362478479" title="User talk:Random person no 362478479">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Random_person_no_362478479-20230905194200-Trilletrollet-20230905183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 5 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Random_person_no_362478479-20230905194200-Trilletrollet-20230905183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Random_person_no_362478479-20230905194200-Trilletrollet-20230905183100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible" data-mw-thread-id="h-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible-20230925150600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible-20230925150600"></span>Asherah is found 40 times in the Hebrew Bible<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible-20230925150600"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150600-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible"></span>I added... "The term 'Asherah' appears 40 times in the <a href="/wiki/Old_Testament" title="Old Testament">Old Testament</a>, with 33 of these occurrences referring to the sacred Asherah poles used in pagan and heretical Israelite worship. Only seven instances of 'Asherah' are references to the goddess herself."<ref] <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.learnreligions.com/asherah-in-the-bible-6824125">https://www.learnreligions.com/asherah-in-the-bible-6824125</a> </ref] <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5" title="Special:Contributions/2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5">2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150600-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150600-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2607:FB91:C6A:DC33:F537:8A0E:387A:CAA5-20230925150600-Asherah_is_found_40_times_in_the_Hebrew_Bible"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Photos_of_the_pots" data-mw-thread-id="h-Photos_of_the_pots-20231212004800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Photos_of_the_pots-20231212004800"></span>Photos of the pots<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Photos_of_the_pots-20231212004800"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Temerarius-20231212004800-Photos_of_the_pots"></span>Of top importance to <a href="/wiki/Asherah" title="Asherah">Asherah</a> and <a href="/wiki/Kuntillet_Ajrud_inscriptions" title="Kuntillet Ajrud inscriptions">Kuntillet Ajrud inscriptions</a> pages are good clear illustrations and photos of all sides of the pithoi, plaster, and context. All the art. From the good sources available, which are few. Anybody'd like to help? <a href="/wiki/User:Temerarius" title="User:Temerarius">Temerarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Temerarius" title="User talk:Temerarius">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Temerarius-20231212004800-Photos_of_the_pots" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 12 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Temerarius-20231212004800-Photos_of_the_pots"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Temerarius-20231212004800-Photos_of_the_pots"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Tag_/_request_resolution" data-mw-thread-id="h-Tag_/_request_resolution-20231213193200"><span id="Tag_.2F_request_resolution"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Tag_/_request_resolution-20231213193200"></span>Tag / request resolution<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Tag_/_request_resolution-20231213193200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Temerarius-20231213193200-Tag_/_request_resolution"></span>I added the requested citation in the top for the Amorite spelling. <a href="/wiki/User:Temerarius" title="User:Temerarius">Temerarius</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Temerarius" title="User talk:Temerarius">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-Temerarius-20231213193200-Tag_/_request_resolution" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Temerarius-20231213193200-Tag_/_request_resolution"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Temerarius-20231213193200-Tag_/_request_resolution"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="What_a_bizarre_article" data-mw-thread-id="h-What_a_bizarre_article-20231220045200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-What_a_bizarre_article-20231220045200"></span>What a bizarre article<span data-mw-comment-end="h-What_a_bizarre_article-20231220045200"></span></h2><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815-20231220045200-What_a_bizarre_article"></span>It's written like a narrative. No "according to", no "he/she found", but a narrative as if this is gender theory, which it isn't. </p><p>"Episodes in the Tanakh show a gender imbalance in the Hebrew religion: the texts state their patriarchal nature. Asherah was patronized by female royals such as the <a href="/wiki/Gebirah" title="Gebirah">Queen Mother</a> <a href="/wiki/Maacah" title="Maacah">Maacah</a> (1 Kings 15:13). But Asherah was tremendously popular and was worshiped within the household and her offerings were performed by family matriarchs." </p><p>this is simply a lot of uncredited presuppositions which have no relevance to the article of Asherah. </p><p>Gender imbalance in the religion? Okay, says who? More importantly, what does it have to do with Asherah? There were dozens of female goddesses, if that's the raison d'etre for this paragraph at all. </p><p>"as yām (Hebrew: יָם) is a common western Semitic root that literally means "sea"." </p><p>this could have been "literally" summed up as "Yam, "sea" in Hebrew". </p><p>then there's even a picture of gold items, reading - </p><p>"Gold items are good to seek examples of continuity between middle and late bronze ages. A lesser example of the "plaque" goddess and fine examples of the Ω yoni, a general-purpose fertility charm. Pic" </p><p>you can't make this up. Absolute zero continuity between paragraphs. </p><p>Some of its references are of a biologist named Amzalleg which was critically panned (that is to say, everyone and their sister think they can be experts on biblical theory, while in reality it's very much based on actual diggings, historical linguistics and a some interpretation, at its core it's not a social studies subject) At this stage, this seems like a stream of consciousness original work, bordering on a hoax, not an actual article. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815" title="Special:Contributions/2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815">2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asherah#c-2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815-20231220045200-What_a_bizarre_article" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:52, 20 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815-20231220045200-What_a_bizarre_article"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2A02:6680:1108:F608:62D6:ADD:8C3F:2815-20231220045200-What_a_bizarre_article"></span> </p></div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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