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id="h-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol-20240716095000"></span>Freegje wat de man no krekt wol<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol-20240716095000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section's source code: Freegje wat de man no krekt wol"><span>boarne bewurkje</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mysha-20240716095000-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"></span>Lad os antage, at du ikke skrev hele historien på <a href="/wiki/Wikipedy:Oerlisside" title="Wikipedy:Oerlisside">Wikipedy:Oerlisside</a>. Hvad er så den vigtigste pointe, du ønsker at formidle? (Jeg er kun her til fredag, ellers bliver det efter ferien.) </p><p>(Ik haw yn it (likernôch) Deensk frege, wat it wichtigste wie wat er sizze woe. En nei freed is it fakânsje, fansels.) <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Mysha-20240716095000-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 jul 2024, 11.50 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mysha-20240716095000-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mysha-20240716095000-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240716095800-Mysha-20240716095000"></span>Hej <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a>! Den vigtigste pointe er selvfølgelig at sørge for at overholde <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy" class="extiw" title="wmf:Resolution:Licensing policy">wmf:Resolution:Licensing_policy</a>. Men grunden til at jeg bad om bot flag er fordi jeg har gang i et globalt projekt med GFDL (se <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MGA73/GFDL_files" class="extiw" title="m:User:MGA73/GFDL files">m:User:MGA73/GFDL files</a>) hvor jeg forsøger at sikre, at "disclaimers" bliver udryddet jf. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Wikipedia:GFDL_standardization" class="extiw" title="w:en:Wikipedia:GFDL standardization">w:en:Wikipedia:GFDL standardization</a>. Det projekt startede i 2007 men er endnu ikke fuldført. Det er ikke så vigtigt som det første, men det er mere overskueligt og burde være simpelt og helt ukontroversielt bl.a. fordi det ikke involverer sletning af filer. Så det tænnkte jeg, at jeg rent faktisk havde en chance for at gennemføre globalt :-) --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240716095800-Mysha-20240716095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 jul 2024, 11.58 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240716095800-Mysha-20240716095000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240716095800-Mysha-20240716095000"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240716101500-MGA73-20240716095800"></span>Husk, bare en pointe. Og prøv (forsøg?) at bruge links, som faktisk virker, når man klikker på dem på fy:. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>)</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Tak for tippet. Jeg havde faktisk slet ikke overvejet, at meningen med links er, at de skulle virke. Tænk, så lærte jeg alligevel noget i dag! :-)</dd> <dd>Men håber at du trods alt fik lidt ud af mit svar. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240716101500-MGA73-20240716095800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 jul 2024, 12.15 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240716101500-MGA73-20240716095800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240716101500-MGA73-20240716095800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240716123800-MGA73-20240716101500"></span>Så, hvad du vil er: Der er in globalt regel om GFDL files, og du har fûnet ut at ikke alle files på Fy: holder på(?) dette. Er der en du kan spørge, om du kan hjelpe med at bringe det til at følger den regel? (Tror ikke det er helt rigtig på Dansk, men jeg siger ikke at mit Dansk er perfekt.) <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>) <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a>! Jeg ved ikke om det ligefrem er en global regel, men der er generel enighed om at "disclaimers" er noget skidt, og at de derfor skal undgås. Derudover er der generel enighed om, at bruge Wikidata til at forbinde skabeloner på tværs af wikier (det har jeg også et lille projekt med, men det er der nok ikke mange der opdager, fordi ændringerne vises på Wikidata). Men det kræver, at skabelonerne er nogenlunde ens. Derfor mener jeg, at det er en fordel at filer uden disclaimers bruger "GFDL" og at filer med disclaimers bruger "GFDL-with-disclaimers" (evt. oversat til lokalt sprog hvis det foretrækkes).</dd> <dd>Et andet projekt relateret til GFDL er "license migration", som du kan læse om på <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_license_migration" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Image license migration">en:Wikipedia:Image license migration</a>. Dette projekt ser heller ikke ud til at være gennemført her.</dd> <dd>Mht. at spørge andre, så skrev jeg på <a href="/wiki/Wikipedy_oerlis:Ambassade#Checking_files" title="Wikipedy oerlis:Ambassade">Wikipedy_oerlis:Ambassade#Checking_files</a>. Senere skrev jeg på <a href="/wiki/Wikipedy:Oerlisside#Bot_flag" title="Wikipedy:Oerlisside">Wikipedy:Oerlisside#Bot_flag</a>. Så jeg synes da, at jeg spurgte. Du er ligesom alle andre selvfølgelig meget velkommen til at hjælpe.</dd> <dd>Når jeg alligevel er på en wiki og tjekker filer med GFDL så plejer jeg også at lægge en besked, hvis jeg opdager andre problemer. Også selvom det så betyder, at der bliver nævnt flere ting på én gang.</dd> <dd>Dit dansk er ikke helt perfekt. Men bortset fra en enkelt fejl og et sjovt valg af ord, så skal man faktisk læse grundigt for at se fejlene. Fx er disse ord ikke korrekte: in, fûnet, hjelpe og myt. Formuleringen "holder på" ville jeg nok skrive "overholder" eller "følger". Man kan helt sikkert godt forstå hvad du mener! --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240716123800-MGA73-20240716101500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 jul 2024, 14.38 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240716123800-MGA73-20240716101500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240716123800-MGA73-20240716101500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240716144600-MGA73-20240716123800"></span>For nu har jeg spørget, om vi faktysk stadig har en ambassadør. I morgen tidlig ved vi nok mere. Fejlen <i>myt</i> (mit) hadde jeg allerede fundet(!), <i>hjelpe</i> er vel Norsk, og jeg har ingen <i>ae</i>, her. Ordet <i>in</i> må hawwe vearet enten <i>yn</i> eller <i>en</i>. Vel, jeg skal nok arbejde lidt; taenk på hvad det ene spørgsmål skal vaere. (Frisere er mere velvillige, når de først laerer at kende dig.) <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>) <dl><dd>Hej igen <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a>! Mit projekt med GFDL går faktisk rimelig godt. Jeg har lige rettet fa, ku og mk. Og fi wikibooks har lige sagt ok til bot flag.</dd> <dd>Jeg har i øvrigt lige brugt mere end 1 år på den Japanske Wikipedia med at tjekke/rette og flytte 80.000 billeder til Commons. Nu hvor man kan bruge FileImporter så går det hurtigere og flyttede filer kommer i øvrigt fortsat til at stå i den oprindelige brugers navn.</dd> <dd>Hvis jeg skal vælge en enkelt ting, så må det være oprydning i GFDL. Jeg kan jo ikke afsluttet projektet helt, hvis bare en enkelt wiki siger nej. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240716144600-MGA73-20240716123800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 jul 2024, 16.46 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240716144600-MGA73-20240716123800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240716144600-MGA73-20240716123800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240717131100-MGA73-20240716144600"></span>OK. (Siger man dette på Dansk?) Det viser at wy nå ikke har en ambassadør laengere. Nok kan jeg lave noet om til dette, men jeg arbeider i en skole, i åpeningstiderne av skolen. Sommerferien kommer, som betyder at snart du enten skall alene lave dit nye spørsmål (Er dette rigtig; folskellen mellem Dansk, Norsk of Svensk giver mi problemer med dette.), eller skal wente til September.</dd> <dd>Så, oprydningen av GFDL: Probemen er at Fy: hadde slet ikke endnu begyndt at arbejde med Commons, hvor en fra Nl: troede at han vidste bedre. Han kunne ikke følge sproget, men følte alligevel, at han kunne flytte tingene til Commons. Så kom CC. Problemerne med Nl: hadde ikke klart(?) seg endnu, og nå kom et nyt problem. Jeg tror ikke på, at vi siden da har fundet en metode, der virker for alle. Så vaer forsigtig med at foreslå en løsning uden at give alle sjangsen far at blive enige me dette. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>) <dl><dd>Hoi <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a>! Der er lidt små fejl hist og her. Om det så er norsk eller svensk ved jeg ikke helt. <dl><dd>Nej ... Jeg troer nok: På Dansk har navneordet ingen afslutningsartikel hvis der er allerede en separat artikel, og Bokmål og Svensk har afslutningsartikelen likesom om der er en separat artikel eller ikke. (Bare, navnet er vel ikke <i>afslutningsartikel</i>.)</dd></dl></dd> <dd>I stedet for at udpege en enkelt ambassadør, så kunne der måske bare være nogle af de mest aktive, der tilføjer siden på overvågningslisten. Så er der flere, der har en chance for at svare. <dl><dd>Ja; men har ikke en gang minesker til dette. Jeg alligevel skal sige någet som dette før skolen slúter av.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Rent formelt så er det fuldt lovligt at flytte filer til Commons og det er også en god idé, for på den måde kan de bruges på andre versioner af Wikipedia. Om den lokale wiki så vil slette filerne eller beholde dem er jo op til dem selv. Men det er lettere at overskue hvis filer bliver slettet. <dl><dd>Problemen, sidste gang jeg hørte någet om dette, var bilder på Commons som hadde: "Oprindeligt fra yy:", men hvis originalen er blevet fjernet, had er så orginalet?</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Hvis nogen gerne vil have overblik over alle filer, som de har uploaded til Wikipedia også efter de er flyttet til Commons, så kan man tilføje dem til en brugerkategori på Commons ("Filer uploaded af Mysha").</dd> <dd>Uanset hvad så er det efter min opfattelse en fordel at have en skabelon som <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Information" class="extiw" title="c:Template:Information">c:Template:Information</a> på alle filer og så udfylde alle felterne. Meget af det kan klares med en bot.</dd> <dd>Jeg mener i øvrigt, at man gør det lettere for sig selv, hvis man tillader engelske navne til skabeloner og parametre i skabeloner og så fokuserer på, at oversætte det læserne ser. På dawiki kan man kopiere flere ting direkte fra engelsk, tysk, svensk og norsk. Så kan en anden bruger rette til danske navne senere eller også gør en bot det. Jeg ved selvfølgelig ikke hvordan det er her, men på den danske wikipedia bliver meget oversat fra fx engelsk, og så er det let for brugerne, at de fx kan kopiere kilder og skabeloner uden at skulle spekulere på danske navne. <dl><dd>? Frisisk har naesten dyselde bogstave som Engelsk, og jeg antager ikke at en har slúted ud Engelsk. Men selvfølgelig vil gerne har skablonnâvner som betyder noget til os.</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Mht. det nye spørgsmål du taler om, så har jeg ikke planlagt at komme med flere forslag lige nu. Jeg har ryddet op i tusindevis af filer på forskellige wikier, men det kræver jo enten at der er lokal støtte til en bot eller at jeg gør det manuelt. Jeg kan godt rette de <a href="/wiki/Wiki:Wat_is_hjirmei_keppele/Berjocht:GFDL" title="Wiki:Wat is hjirmei keppele/Berjocht:GFDL">45 filer</a> manuelt som her <a href="/wiki/Wiki:Diff/1157988" title="Wiki:Diff/1157988">Special:Diff/1157988</a> men jeg håber at lokale brugere selv retter. Da jeg skrev anmodningen om bot-flag troede jeg at det var alle 970 filer i <a href="/wiki/Kategory:GFDL_Ofbyld" title="Kategory:GFDL Ofbyld">Kategory:GFDL_Ofbyld</a>, der havde disclaimers. Ellers havde jeg nok bare rettet uden at bede om et bot flag. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240717131100-MGA73-20240716144600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 jul 2024, 15.11 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240717131100-MGA73-20240716144600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240717131100-MGA73-20240716144600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mysha-20240718132400-MGA73-20240717131100"></span>Så. til sidst har vi bare haft en hyggelig snak, men det var ikke nødvendigt? Hawar, tak for dette. Spør <a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> hvis du traenger mer kontakt om Commons om sommeren. God sommer. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Mysha-20240718132400-MGA73-20240717131100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 jul 2024, 15.24 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mysha-20240718132400-MGA73-20240717131100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mysha-20240718132400-MGA73-20240717131100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20240718212400-Mysha-20240718132400"></span>Ja, det har da være hyggeligt. Jeg har fortalt dig hvad jeg synes man burde gøre her. Jeg har også lavet <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73/Information" title="Meidogger:MGA73/Information">Meidogger:MGA73/Information</a> som I er velkommen til at bruge som inspiration. Du har fortalt mig hvorfor min forespørgsel om et bot-flag ikke blev modtaget med begejstring, så nu er jeg blevet lidt klogere på Frisere :-) Men hvis brugerne her foretrækker at rydde op selv, så kan jeg jo ikke rigtig gøre så meget lige nu? Tænker du ikke det er bedst at lade alle tænke lidt over tingene inden jeg evt. kommer med nye forslag og kommentarer? Også god sommer til dig! --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20240718212400-Mysha-20240718132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 jul 2024, 23.24 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20240718212400-Mysha-20240718132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20240718212400-Mysha-20240718132400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241025054800-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"></span>Hej <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a>! Håber du havde en god sommer. Det havde jeg. Vejret var godt, og mit projekt med wikierne er også gået godt. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241025054800-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 okt 2024, 07.48 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241025054800-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241025054800-Freegje_wat_de_man_no_krekt_wol"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241025123600-MGA73-20241025054800"></span>Hej, MGA73: Ja, jeg troer nok jeg har haft in god sommer. I sommerferien, havde jeg et problem, på den anden side af IJsselmeer, hvor jeg hadde uheld (?) med cyklen, og derfor var ikke i stand til at køre rundt IJsselmeer, men Afsluitdijk i øjeblikket var ikke åbent til cykling, og derfor havde dette ikke været muligt alligevel. Men, om sommeren jeg også fandt en fin forening, som jeg har meldet mig ind til, så i alt har dette været fin. Jeg er glad at wikiprojekterne går bra. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Mysha" title="Meidogger:Mysha">Mysha</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Mysha" title="Meidogger oerlis:Mysha">oerlis</a>)</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Godt at det var trods problemerne stadig var en god sommer. Du kunne også have overvejet en vandcykel :-D --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241025123600-MGA73-20241025054800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">25 okt 2024, 14.36 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241025123600-MGA73-20241025054800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241025123600-MGA73-20241025054800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="New_list" data-mw-thread-id="h-New_list-20241011195300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-New_list-20241011195300"></span>New list<span data-mw-comment-end="h-New_list-20241011195300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section's source code: New list"><span>boarne bewurkje</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300-New_list"></span>Hello again. Alright, it took me a bit longer than I originally hoped, but I've now gone through your entire list at <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73/NoLicense" title="Meidogger:MGA73/NoLicense">Meidogger:MGA73/NoLicense</a>. Could you please make a new list of files with no licence on our Wikipedia, so I can see if I really got them all? <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300-New_list" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11 okt 2024, 21.53 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300-New_list"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300-New_list"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241011204700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> ! Yes it was a rather long list. I updated it and it looks much better. :-)</dd> <dd>When you are finished cleaning up perhaps you would also like to have a look at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_license_migration" class="extiw" title="en:Wikipedia:Image license migration">en:Wikipedia:Image license migration</a>? It has been completed on most wikis and there are only about 15 wikis left where it is not completed. Some of those are in progress with it. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241011204700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11 okt 2024, 22.47 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241011204700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241011204700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241011195300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300-MGA73-20241011204700"></span>Thanks for updating the list. I am very glad to have that out of the way. Which is of course why your next request came like something of a cold shower to me. (I thought I was finally done with this crap.) I don't know, man. This is making me feel very discouraged. It is another big job (almost 1000 images) just at a point when I have so little free time to spare. Also, I don't see any reason for this. These images already have a licence; why change it around to a different one? To me this is a perfect example of the enormous and constantly growing bureaucracy at Wikimedia refusing to take into account that a lot of small Wikipedias just don't have the manpower for this kind of useless nonsense. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300-MGA73-20241011204700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 okt 2024, 22.33 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300-MGA73-20241011204700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300-MGA73-20241011204700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241012203700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a>! Sorry to discourage you. But it is very easy for me to fix. I just need a bot flag for my bot. And perhaps a little help translate the text on a template. Files licensed with creative commons are easier to reuse than files licensed GFDL. And the whole idea about Wikipedia is to spread free knowledge. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241012203700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 okt 2024, 22.37 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241012203700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241012203700-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012203300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300-MGA73-20241012203700"></span>Yeah, but at <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_license_migration">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_license_migration</a> it says this relincencing only goes for images uploaded to Wikipedia before August 1, 2009. So what happens to the rest of them? <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300-MGA73-20241012203700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12 okt 2024, 22.43 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300-MGA73-20241012203700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300-MGA73-20241012203700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241013072100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300"></span>The rest of them just get a "|migration=not-eligible" added to the template like on <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/937415473" class="extiw" title="c:Special:Diff/937415473">c:Special:Diff/937415473</a>. It could be combined with a message in edit summary like in <a href="https://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/7804672" class="extiw" title="az:Special:Diff/7804672">az:Special:Diff/7804672</a> where uploader is asked to consider to relicense. The code will hide the <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:License_migration_announcement" class="extiw" title="c:Template:License migration announcement">c:Template:License migration announcement</a>. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241013072100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13 okt 2024, 09.21 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241013072100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241013072100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241012204300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700-MGA73-20241013072100"></span>I've been looking at the GFDL files on this Wikipedia. Of about half of those I was the uploader so I could relicence those reasonably fast, although it was still a lot of work. I'm sifting through the rest now, as there turn out to be quite a few miscategorized images in there. I'll see how many images remain when that is done and base my decisions on that. If there are only a couple of hundred left I don't think we need a bot after all. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700-MGA73-20241013072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 okt 2024, 01.27 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700-MGA73-20241013072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700-MGA73-20241013072100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241016052100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700"></span>Yes own work is easy to fix. Thank you for fixing this! --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241016052100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16 okt 2024, 07.21 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241016052100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241016052100-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241015232700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800-MGA73-20241016052100"></span>After sifting out the misplaced images en reassigning them to there proper licence categories, there are 235 GFDL images left. So that's doable by hand. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800-MGA73-20241016052100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 okt 2024, 21.18 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800-MGA73-20241016052100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800-MGA73-20241016052100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241017194400-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800"></span>Everything can be done by hand. But it is easier with a bot :-) I can see at <a class="external text" href="https://usualsuspects.toolforge.org/?language=fy&project=wikipedia&category=GFDL_Ofbyld&min_days=14&badboys=Bad+Boys">this list</a> that many are uploaded by Drewes that is still active. If Drewes agree to relicense it is much easier. --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241017194400-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17 okt 2024, 21.44 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241017194400-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241017194400-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241017191800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400-MGA73-20241017194400"></span>I took your suggestion and asked him, and he agreed. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400-MGA73-20241017194400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18 okt 2024, 21.24 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400-MGA73-20241017194400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400-MGA73-20241017194400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241019143000-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400"></span>Awesome! It makes it so much easier... Soon fy.wiki can be removed from my list. Thank you! --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241019143000-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 okt 2024, 16.30 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241019143000-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241019143000-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241018192400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500-MGA73-20241019143000"></span>Alright, it's done. You can cross us off of your list. We're left with 32 GFDL images that were uploaded after August 1, 2009, and therefore cannot by relicenced at this time. <a href="/wiki/Meidogger:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">Ieneach fan 'e Esk</a> (<a href="/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:Ieneach_fan_%27e_Esk" title="Meidogger oerlis:Ieneach fan 'e Esk">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500-MGA73-20241019143000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19 okt 2024, 22.35 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500-MGA73-20241019143000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500-MGA73-20241019143000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MGA73-20241020095500-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500"></span>Thanks a lot! --<a href="/wiki/Meidogger:MGA73" title="Meidogger:MGA73">MGA73</a> (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">oerlis</a>) <a href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73#c-MGA73-20241020095500-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20 okt 2024, 11.55 (CEST)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MGA73-20241020095500-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">beäntwurdzje</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MGA73-20241020095500-Ieneach_fan_'e_Esk-20241019203500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Opfrege fan "<a dir="ltr" href="https://fy.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73&oldid=1171367">https://fy.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meidogger_oerlis:MGA73&oldid=1171367</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> Dizze side is it lêst bewurke op 25 okt 2024 om 13.36.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">De tekst is beskikber ûnder de lisinsje <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.fy">Creative Commons Nammefermelding-Lyk diele</a>; der kinne oanfoljende betingsten fan tapassing wêze. 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