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href="/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Ballet" title="Special:RecentChangesLinked/Category:Ballet"><b>recent changes</b></a> to ballet articles.</li> </ul> </div> </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Comments-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments"],"text":"Comments","linkableTitle":"Comments"}--><h2 id="Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comments-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comments-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"></span>Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comments-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Comments-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments"],"text":"Comments","linkableTitle":"Comments"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments"></span>I was hoping to build on this start article but hit the buffers. I think the Bonynge recording is the complete piece, not just selections (the work was always part of a triple bill, and this link suggests that there is a 44-minute film of it in New York <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.worldcat.org/title/mamzelle-angot/oclc/34384674">[1]</a> - 40 minutes (Bonynge's version takes 39) sounds right. I also 'know' that "Au soldat après la parade" from Act I of <i>Le Coeur et la main</i> comes in at the end of the score (but of course don't have a reference). The Decca Eclipse LP 'synopsis' has some useful indications of the dances of different characters and when they occur. The Kurtz Columbia recording states on the sleeve that it is the Mohaupt version. <a href="/wiki/User:Cg2p0B0u8m" title="User:Cg2p0B0u8m">Cg2p0B0u8m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cg2p0B0u8m" title="User talk:Cg2p0B0u8m">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mam%27zelle_Angot#c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:00, 26 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","author":"Cg2p0B0u8m","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments","replies":["c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z-Comments"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"></span>I have seen it danced at Covent Garden and will dig out the programme to see if it casts any light on the score, but don't hold your breath. Ballet audiences are not famous for their close interest in the music. More anon. <b><span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;"><a href="/wiki/User:Tim_riley" title="User:Tim riley"><span style="color:# 660066">Tim riley</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tim_riley" title="User talk:Tim riley"><span style="color:#848484"> talk</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mam%27zelle_Angot#c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-26T23:00:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z"></span>That's really helpful - I have added a few bits in anticipation of anything you find, so please do correct it when you have your source. There is a short bit on <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SGje2QkSOk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SGje2QkSOk</a>, presumably from August 1980.<a href="/wiki/User:Cg2p0B0u8m" title="User:Cg2p0B0u8m">Cg2p0B0u8m</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cg2p0B0u8m" title="User talk:Cg2p0B0u8m">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mam%27zelle_Angot#c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z","author":"Cg2p0B0u8m","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cg2p0B0u8m-2020-01-28T21:03:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2020-01-27T22:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <!-- NewPP limit report Parsed by mw‐web.codfw.main‐697b7966c5‐gcpsq Cached time: 20241126151554 Cache expiry: 864000 Reduced expiry: true Complications: [vary‐revision‐sha1] DiscussionTools time usage: 0.011 seconds CPU time usage: 0.168 seconds Real time usage: 0.267 seconds Preprocessor visited node count: 359/1000000 Post‐expand include size: 23523/2097152 bytes Template argument size: 3104/2097152 bytes Highest expansion depth: 12/100 Expensive parser function count: 3/500 Unstrip recursion depth: 0/20 Unstrip post‐expand size: 8880/5000000 bytes Lua time usage: 0.115/10.000 seconds Lua memory usage: 1734221/52428800 bytes Number of Wikibase entities loaded: 0/400 --> <!-- Transclusion expansion time report (%,ms,calls,template) 100.00% 218.699 1 -total 100.00% 218.699 1 Template:WikiProject_banner_shell 48.04% 105.057 1 Template:WikiProject_Dance 3.17% 6.937 1 Template:Tasks 1.91% 4.188 1 Template:If_empty 0.86% 1.878 1 Template:Yesno 0.75% 1.645 1 Template:Main_other --> <!-- Saved in parser cache with key enwiki:pcache:idhash:58921785-0!canonical and timestamp 20241126151554 and revision id 1250625919. 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