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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20240408230800-The_Bugle:_Issue_216,_April_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20240408230800-The_Bugle:_Issue_216,_April_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20240408230800-The_Bugle:_Issue_216,_April_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum-20240506085200"><span id=".22Third.22_Lancashire_County_Asylum"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum-20240506085200"></span>"Third" Lancashire County Asylum<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum-20240506085200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: "Third" Lancashire County Asylum"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koncorde-20240506085200-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum"></span>Can you do me a favour (because I'm unravelling a unknown length of string here) and let me know your thoughts on whether or not we are documenting the actual name of the hospital or an artifact of the original source for the names <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://discovered.ed.ac.uk/permalink/44UOE_INST/iatqhp/alma9918752663502466">Dr. Jeremy Taylor publication "Hospital And Asylum Architecture 1840-1914"</a>. When I reviewed the current source <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.countyasylums.co.uk/rainhillprescot/">for the name</a> it became unclear if this was formally named "Third Lancashire County Asylum", and instead it was just the "third Lancashire County Asylum" per the history page on the same site quote:<style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">The third Lancashire County Lunatic Asylum, Rainhill opened 1st January 1851 simultaneously with the second asylum, Prestwich</q> and our own disambig page <a href="/wiki/Lancashire_County_Lunatic_Asylum" class="mw-disambig" title="Lancashire County Lunatic Asylum">Lancashire County Lunatic Asylum</a>. Just in glancing around I can see: </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://manchestervictorianarchitects.org.uk/buildings/third-lancashire-county-asylum-whittingham-preston">another "Third Lancashire County"</a> asylum listed <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.countyasylums.co.uk/prestwich-manchester/">with even County Asylums mentioning the Preston site</a></li> <li>meanwhile the source for <a href="/wiki/Prestwich_Hospital" title="Prestwich Hospital">Prestwich Hospital</a> "Second Lancashire County Lunatic Asylum" <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/212455/prestwich_hospital/category/1369/hospital">makes no mention of the numbering convention</a> and other sources specifically just call it the Lancashire County Lunatic Asylum as it had a different name to the "First" the <a href="/wiki/Lancaster_Moor_Hospital" title="Lancaster Moor Hospital">Lancaster Moor Hospital</a> then known as Lancashire County Pauper Lunatic Asylum</li> <li>oddly we claim the original name of Lancaster Moor is "the First Lancashire County Asylum" which seems very unlikely (and isn't supported by any source)</li></ul> <p>I found Simon Cornwells site (careful, the site is listed as unsecured but I can't find anything obvious wrong) <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.simoncornwell.com/urbex/misc/asylums.htm">lists Rainhill as alternatively "Third <b>Lancaster</b> County Asylum"</a> as does this <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.thetimechamber.co.uk/beta/sites/asylums/asylum-history/the-asylums-list">similar list</a> which both base their work off the original "Hospital And Asylum Architecture 1840-1914" which has raised my circular sourcing hackles a bit i.e. Taylor writes a list differentiating the different hospitals, Cornwell adds to list in table, Table becomes the source of countyasylums.co.uk and so on, but the numbering convention may not have been in original source, or may have been included only as a differentiator rather than a formal name, meanwhile wikipedia seems to just be adding "First", "Second" etc to sites where it isn't included at all because of some perceived convention. <a href="/wiki/User:Koncorde" title="User:Koncorde">Koncorde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koncorde" title="User talk:Koncorde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Koncorde-20240506085200-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koncorde-20240506085200-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koncorde-20240506085200-"Third"_Lancashire_County_Asylum"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240506091700-Koncorde-20240506085200"></span>Hi - This is extremely complicated and it took me several months of work to unravel it myself. All counties in England used this numbering convention and in some counties they commissioned some ten asylums all numbered in sequence. It is best summarised by <a href="/wiki/Commissioners_in_Lunacy" title="Commissioners in Lunacy">this article</a> which sets out the numbering sequence. The numbering sequence was a government initiative rather than anything wikipedia invented although some hospitals may have preferred not to use the rather de-humanising sequence. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240506091700-Koncorde-20240506085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240506091700-Koncorde-20240506085200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240506091700-Koncorde-20240506085200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Dormskirk-20240506091700"></span>Is there a non-Taylor source for the numbering convention? Anything contemporaneous, such as from the commission? I haven't found a copy of Taylors publication, and when I glanced earlier the only sources I could find referenced Taylors book at some level. If there's specific commission details then would expect them to be somewhere, but outside a random architecture website I have ran dry (though I have hardly been exhaustive yet). <a href="/wiki/User:Koncorde" title="User:Koncorde">Koncorde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koncorde" title="User talk:Koncorde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Dormskirk-20240506091700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Dormskirk-20240506091700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Dormskirk-20240506091700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Koncorde-20240506142600"></span>And thank you by the way. Not to sound like an ungrateful sod. <a href="/wiki/User:Koncorde" title="User:Koncorde">Koncorde</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koncorde" title="User talk:Koncorde">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Koncorde-20240506142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Koncorde-20240506142600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Koncorde-20240506142600-Koncorde-20240506142600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240506143300-Koncorde-20240506142600"></span>No problem. I seem to remember that Taylor was the main source I used, although I did consider <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://thetimechamber.co.uk/beta/sites/asylums/asylum-history/the-asylums-list">The Asylums List</a> as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240506143300-Koncorde-20240506142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240506143300-Koncorde-20240506142600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240506143300-Koncorde-20240506142600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024-20240507201900"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_217.2C_May_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024-20240507201900"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue 217, May 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024-20240507201900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-20240507201900-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/May_2024/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/May 2024/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/May_2024/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/May 2024/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/May_2024/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/May 2024/Book reviews">Hawkeye7 and Nick-D look at a diverse range of works</a></i></li> <li>Op-ed: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/May_2024/Op-ed" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/May 2024/Op-ed">Hawkeye7 on the "center of gravity"</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20240507201900-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20240507201900-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20240507201900-The_Bugle:_Issue_217,_May_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool" data-mw-thread-id="h-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool-20240509212700"><span id="County_Sessions_House.2C_Liverpool"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool-20240509212700"></span><a href="/wiki/County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool" title="County Sessions House, Liverpool">County Sessions House, Liverpool</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool-20240509212700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: County Sessions House, Liverpool"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Swanny18-20240509212700-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool"></span>Hello<br/> I notice you deleted some stuff I put on this page; I’ve opened a discussion <a href="/wiki/Talk:County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool#Location" title="Talk:County Sessions House, Liverpool">there</a>, if you wish to comment. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Swanny18" title="User:Swanny18">Swanny18</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Swanny18" title="User talk:Swanny18">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Swanny18-20240509212700-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Swanny18-20240509212700-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Swanny18-20240509212700-County_Sessions_House,_Liverpool"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240509221200-Swanny18-20240509212700"></span>I have commented. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240509221200-Swanny18-20240509212700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240509221200-Swanny18-20240509212700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240509221200-Swanny18-20240509212700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Help-20240511083400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Help-20240511083400"></span>Help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Help-20240511083400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Task_Force_(Toronto_Police_Service)#Equipment"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TShape12-20240511083400-Help"></span>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Task_Force_(Toronto_Police_Service)#Equipment</a> </p><p>How do you cite two authors I can't figure out. Can you fix my link? </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:TShape12&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:TShape12 (page does not exist)">TShape12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TShape12" title="User talk:TShape12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-TShape12-20240511083400-Help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TShape12-20240511083400-Help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TShape12-20240511083400-Help"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240511085900-TShape12-20240511083400"></span>I have sorted it for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240511085900-TShape12-20240511083400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240511085900-TShape12-20240511083400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240511085900-TShape12-20240511083400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier" data-mw-thread-id="h-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier-20240514130700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier-20240514130700"></span>Auchinleck. The Lonely Soldier<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier-20240514130700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Auchinleck. The Lonely Soldier"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GHQ_India&diff=1223774529&oldid=1223744791"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20240514130700-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier"></span>Here</a> you've put 1989 inside the sfn, but 1982 in the citation template. They have to match for the sfn to work. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-DuncanHill-20240514130700-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:07, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20240514130700-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20240514130700-Auchinleck._The_Lonely_Soldier"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240514134900-DuncanHill-20240514130700"></span>Now corrected. Apologies and thanks for pointing this out. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240514134900-DuncanHill-20240514130700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240514134900-DuncanHill-20240514130700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240514134900-DuncanHill-20240514130700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DuncanHill-20240514192100-Dormskirk-20240514134900"></span>Thanks for fixing it so quickly. <a href="/wiki/User:DuncanHill" title="User:DuncanHill">DuncanHill</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DuncanHill" title="User talk:DuncanHill">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-DuncanHill-20240514192100-Dormskirk-20240514134900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DuncanHill-20240514192100-Dormskirk-20240514134900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DuncanHill-20240514192100-Dormskirk-20240514134900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall" data-mw-thread-id="h-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall-20240531223200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall-20240531223200"></span>Style of Cullompton Town Hall<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall-20240531223200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Style of Cullompton Town Hall"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Warofdreams-20240531223200-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall"></span>Thanks for your sterling work creating and improving articles on town halls! I noticed you listed Cullompton Town Hall as being in a vernacular style - is that based on a reference? I'd have described it as Edwardian Free Style, though surprisingly I don't think there's an article on that movement. <a href="/wiki/User:Warofdreams" title="User:Warofdreams">Warofdreams</a> <i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Warofdreams" title="User talk:Warofdreams">talk</a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Warofdreams-20240531223200-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Warofdreams-20240531223200-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Warofdreams-20240531223200-Style_of_Cullompton_Town_Hall"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240531223700-Warofdreams-20240531223200"></span>Hi - I used vernacular style only because I could not think of anything better, but on reflection I think Edwardian Free Style is more appropriate. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240531223700-Warofdreams-20240531223200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240531223700-Warofdreams-20240531223200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240531223700-Warofdreams-20240531223200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KJP1-20240716155700-Dormskirk-20240531223700"></span>Talking of "Edwardian Free Style", a particularly monstrous example is <a href="/wiki/Battersea_Town_Hall" title="Battersea Town Hall">Battersea Town Hall</a>. I had the pleasure of doing the GAN review a few years back, and always thought it had FA potential. The architecture is notable, if unpleasing, but the history is amazing. <a href="/wiki/User:KJP1" title="User:KJP1">KJP1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KJP1" title="User talk:KJP1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-KJP1-20240716155700-Dormskirk-20240531223700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KJP1-20240716155700-Dormskirk-20240531223700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KJP1-20240716155700-Dormskirk-20240531223700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240716160200-KJP1-20240716155700"></span>Hi - Yes, it's a great article! 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20240610094200-The_Bugle:_Issue_218,_June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20240610094200-The_Bugle:_Issue_218,_June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20240610094200-The_Bugle:_Issue_218,_June_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc-20240615083200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc-20240615083200"></span>Raspberry Pi Holdings Plc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc-20240615083200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Raspberry Pi Holdings Plc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc"></span>Good morning Dormskirk, curious if you will be turning your hand to a new company page for the above that IPO'd on Monday 10 June 2024? I believe they will be joining the FTSE 250 at the next index rebalance. Thank you for your service. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Johnlexcameron&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Johnlexcameron (page does not exist)">Johnlexcameron</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Johnlexcameron&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Johnlexcameron (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200-Raspberry_Pi_Holdings_Plc"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240615102200-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200"></span>Hi - It is not included in the next rebalance, which is due on 24 June 2024 (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://research.ftserussell.com/products/index-notices/home/getnotice/?id=2612739">here</a>). However, I will certainly be taking a look if it does move up to the FTSE 250 at some later date. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240615102200-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240615102200-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240615102200-Johnlexcameron-20240615083200"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240824204200-Dormskirk-20240615102200"></span>Hi - Now done. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240824204200-Dormskirk-20240615102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240824204200-Dormskirk-20240615102200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240824204200-Dormskirk-20240615102200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion-20240626120200"><span id="Nomination_of_204_.28Tyneside_Scottish.29_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion-20240626120200"></span>Nomination of <a href="/wiki/204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery" title="204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery">204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery</a> for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion-20240626120200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Nomination of 204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="afd-notice"> <div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-PercyPigUK-20240626120200-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Ambox_warning_orange.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_orange.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/></span></span></div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article <a href="/wiki/204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery" title="204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery">204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery</a> is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies_and_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a> or whether it should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy" title="Wikipedia:Deletion policy">deleted</a>. <p>The article will be discussed at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery">Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/204 (Tyneside Scottish) Battery Royal Artillery</a></b> until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. </p> Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.</div> <p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:PercyPigUK&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:PercyPigUK (page does not exist)">PercyPigUK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:PercyPigUK" title="User talk:PercyPigUK">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-PercyPigUK-20240626120200-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-PercyPigUK-20240626120200-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-PercyPigUK-20240626120200-Nomination_of_204_(Tyneside_Scottish)_Battery_Royal_Artillery_for_deletion"></span> </p><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240703222400-PercyPigUK-20240626120200"></span>Now resolved. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240703222400-PercyPigUK-20240626120200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240703222400-PercyPigUK-20240626120200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240703222400-PercyPigUK-20240626120200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Recent_BP_update_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Recent_BP_update_request-20240703094200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Recent_BP_update_request-20240703094200"></span>Recent BP update request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Recent_BP_update_request-20240703094200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Recent BP update request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vishal_BP-20240703094200-Recent_BP_update_request"></span>Hi Dormskirk, I recently <a href="/wiki/Talk:BP#Bunge_Bioenergia_acquisition" title="Talk:BP">made a request</a> on the BP Talk page to add information about the acquisition of Bunge Bioenergia in June. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on adding the information or how to make the request better. Reaching out because you had reviewed some of my requests in the past. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:Vishal_BP" title="User:Vishal BP">Vishal BP</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vishal_BP" title="User talk:Vishal BP">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Vishal_BP-20240703094200-Recent_BP_update_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vishal_BP-20240703094200-Recent_BP_update_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vishal_BP-20240703094200-Recent_BP_update_request"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240703095600-Vishal_BP-20240703094200"></span>Hi - It looks fine. There will be a delay because there are over 150 requests waiting to be processed. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240703095600-Vishal_BP-20240703094200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240703095600-Vishal_BP-20240703094200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240703095600-Vishal_BP-20240703094200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment-20240710114000"><span id="The_Duke_of_Lancaster.27s_Regiment"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment-20240710114000"></span>The Duke of Lancaster's Regiment<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment-20240710114000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: The Duke of Lancaster's Regiment"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-185.13.50.184-20240710114000-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment"></span>Hi Dormskirk, Today I edited our regimental wiki page. I have noticed that there is very little information with regard to our deployments since 2006, sporting achievements and locations. I have seen that you have reverted the changes that I made due to references (or lack). Could you explain more please? So that we can amend it correctly and get the correct information updated onto our page. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.13.50.184" title="Special:Contributions/185.13.50.184">185.13.50.184</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:185.13.50.184" title="User talk:185.13.50.184">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-185.13.50.184-20240710114000-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-185.13.50.184-20240710114000-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-185.13.50.184-20240710114000-The_Duke_of_Lancaster's_Regiment"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240710114900-185.13.50.184-20240710114000"></span>Hi - No problem. Essentially all information needs to be verifiable: see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>. This is done through in line citations from reliable independent published sources. Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CITE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CITE">WP:CITE</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> to find out how this is done. Try adding one fact at a time, with an in line citation, so that it can be checked by other editors, before moving on. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240710114900-185.13.50.184-20240710114000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240710114900-185.13.50.184-20240710114000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240710114900-185.13.50.184-20240710114000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-185.13.50.218-20240710120700-Dormskirk-20240710114900"></span>Hi, thanks for getting back to me.</dd> <dd>The biggest issue that we have is that non of our Operations are in the public domain or public records - hence why we are trying to correct this now. Outside of the London Gazette and ORK stored in the National Archive or MOD main building, I can't prove this stuff to you.</dd> <dd>I don't know why this has happened, but this is why I have taken on the job to change this and update our public facing records. Have you got business contact details in which I could communicate with you on, as I would rather not go through an editorial back and fourth, but if we could work together to fix this, it would be beneficial to all... least not that your editorial skills will be far better than mine! <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.13.50.218" title="Special:Contributions/185.13.50.218">185.13.50.218</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:185.13.50.218" title="User talk:185.13.50.218">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-185.13.50.218-20240710120700-Dormskirk-20240710114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-185.13.50.218-20240710120700-Dormskirk-20240710114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-185.13.50.218-20240710120700-Dormskirk-20240710114900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240710122600-185.13.50.218-20240710120700"></span>Sorry, but we do not provide contact details on wikipedia. Just one word of caution: you should not use wikipedia to publish information that is not already in the public domain. Quite apart from wikipedia guidelines on verification, please bear in mind data protection and other implications. As previously recommended, try adding one fact at a time, with an in line citation, so that it can be checked by other editors, before moving on. Also any further discussions should take place on the article talk page so other editors can comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240710122600-185.13.50.218-20240710120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240710122600-185.13.50.218-20240710120700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240710122600-185.13.50.218-20240710120700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024-20240713120800"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_219.2C_July_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024-20240713120800"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue 219, July 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024-20240713120800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-20240713120800-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/July_2024/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/July 2024/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/July_2024/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/July 2024/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/July_2024/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/July 2024/Book reviews">Recent external reviews</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20240713120800-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20240713120800-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20240713120800-The_Bugle:_Issue_219,_July_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Scone_Palace" data-mw-thread-id="h-Scone_Palace-20240716072900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Scone_Palace-20240716072900"></span>Scone Palace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Scone_Palace-20240716072900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Scone Palace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wentwort12-20240716072900-Scone_Palace"></span>Hi Dormskirk, I want to suggest rearranging and re-categorize the paragraphs on <a href="/wiki/Scone_Palace" title="Scone Palace">Scone Palace</a> article, since in it's current form it's kinda confusing for readers <a href="/wiki/User:Wentwort12" title="User:Wentwort12">Wentwort12</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wentwort12" title="User talk:Wentwort12">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Wentwort12-20240716072900-Scone_Palace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wentwort12-20240716072900-Scone_Palace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wentwort12-20240716072900-Scone_Palace"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240716083300-Wentwort12-20240716072900"></span>Hi - Please feel free to make suggestions on the article talk page. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240716083300-Wentwort12-20240716072900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240716083300-Wentwort12-20240716072900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240716083300-Wentwort12-20240716072900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MI6" data-mw-thread-id="h-MI6-20240724182400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MI6-20240724182400"></span>MI6<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MI6-20240724182400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: MI6"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400-MI6"></span>Thanks! It was going to drive me to drink, except it's too late for that anyway. I like your decisive scissor-work. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400-MI6" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400-MI6"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400-MI6"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240724190100-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400"></span>DBak</a> And many thanks for your excellent edits to the article! Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240724190100-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240724190100-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240724190100-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724191600-Dormskirk-20240724190100"></span>Thank you so much. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724191600-Dormskirk-20240724190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724191600-Dormskirk-20240724190100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240724191600-Dormskirk-20240724190100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville" data-mw-thread-id="h-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville-20240810173900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville-20240810173900"></span>Revert of my edit to Paris Hotel de Ville<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville-20240810173900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Revert of my edit to Paris Hotel de Ville"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville"></span>I have readded the information you removed, with a citation. I also find it rather queer that you removed the information in the first place, as if it were vandalism or I was an inexperience editor. Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:You_don%27t_need_to_cite_that_the_sky_is_blue" title="Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue">Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue</a> if you haven't; the Paris Olympic marathon starting at the Hotel de Ville was fairly widely reported and easily cited. <sub style="border:1px solid #FFCC00;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Purplebackpack89" title="User talk:Purplebackpack89"><span style="color:#FFCC00;background:#800080;">pbp</span></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:39, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900-Revert_of_my_edit_to_Paris_Hotel_de_Ville"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240810174100-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900"></span>Thank you for adding the citation. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240810174100-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="plainlinks"><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240810174100-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900"></span></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240810174100-Purplebackpack89-20240810173900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024-20240813111700"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_220.2C_August_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024-20240813111700"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue 220, August 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024-20240813111700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue 220, August 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20240813111700-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20240813111700-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20240813111700-The_Bugle:_Issue_220,_August_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Your_expertise" data-mw-thread-id="h-Your_expertise-20240820193100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Your_expertise-20240820193100"></span>Your expertise<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Your_expertise-20240820193100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Your expertise"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-20240820193100-Your_expertise"></span>Hiya. I do not understand what <a href="/w/index.php?title=Emily_Hunter_Salveson&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Emily Hunter Salveson (page does not exist)">Emily Hunter Salveson</a>'s company does, and I am trying to rewrite the lede. As you have expertise in this area, can you help with the language? The details are covered in these articles: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/rust-spotlight-on-opaque-indie-film-financing-scheme-1235045182/">"Rust Shines Spotlight on Indie Film Financing Scheme" </a> and <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://variety.com/2021/film/news/rust-kent-salveson-tax-shelter-streamline-global-1235142226/">"Rust Producer's Key Advior -- her Dad -- Pushed Tax Shelters and Hid Income According to IRS" </a>. Feel free to ignore me -- the article may be deleted -- it was originally published with very weak references and no mention of <i>Rust</i>. Hope you are well. Julie <a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-JSFarman-20240820193100-Your_expertise" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-20240820193100-Your_expertise"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-20240820193100-Your_expertise"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240820222000-JSFarman-20240820193100"></span>Hi - I am not familiar with Streamline Global Group. That said my understanding is something along the following lines: "The company enables private individuals and financial institutions to make highly tax efficient investments in the film industry". I am aware that the company also offers generous terms regarding the period over which the investors can pay for their investments but I think the financing terms are a secondary factor i.e. a distraction from the main purpose. Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240820222000-JSFarman-20240820193100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240820222000-JSFarman-20240820193100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240820222000-JSFarman-20240820193100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JSFarman-20240821141400-Dormskirk-20240820222000"></span>Ah. I thought it was more diabolical. But of course I did. I appreciate your help! Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:JSFarman" title="User:JSFarman">JSFarman</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JSFarman" title="User talk:JSFarman">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-JSFarman-20240821141400-Dormskirk-20240820222000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JSFarman-20240821141400-Dormskirk-20240820222000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JSFarman-20240821141400-Dormskirk-20240820222000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240821142300-JSFarman-20240821141400"></span>No problem. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240821142300-JSFarman-20240821141400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240821142300-JSFarman-20240821141400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240821142300-JSFarman-20240821141400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?-20240828132300"><span id="Bare_URL.3B_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?-20240828132300"></span>Bare URL; tool to convert to citation format?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?-20240828132300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Bare URL; tool to convert to citation format?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asto77-20240828132300-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?"></span>I used to use Toolforge,as you recommended, but that has stopped working. Do you know a tool I could use? Thanks and best wishes <a href="/wiki/User:Asto77" title="User:Asto77">Asto77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asto77" title="User talk:Asto77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Asto77-20240828132300-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asto77-20240828132300-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asto77-20240828132300-Bare_URL;_tool_to_convert_to_citation_format?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240828132400-Asto77-20240828132300"></span>It is the one I use as well! Sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240828132400-Asto77-20240828132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240828132400-Asto77-20240828132300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240828132400-Asto77-20240828132300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Asto77-20240830004600-Dormskirk-20240828132400"></span>now at <a class="external free" href="https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/">https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/</a>. best wishes <a href="/wiki/User:Asto77" title="User:Asto77">Asto77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asto77" title="User talk:Asto77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Asto77-20240830004600-Dormskirk-20240828132400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Asto77-20240830004600-Dormskirk-20240828132400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Asto77-20240830004600-Dormskirk-20240828132400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20240830081500-Asto77-20240830004600"></span>Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20240830081500-Asto77-20240830004600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20240830081500-Asto77-20240830004600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20240830081500-Asto77-20240830004600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open!-20240901064000"><span id="Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open!-20240901064000"></span>Voting for coordinators is now open!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open!-20240901064000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Voting for coordinators is now open!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240901064000-Voting_for_coordinators_is_now_open!"></span>Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. 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Register your vote <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Coordinators/September_2024" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/September 2024">here</a></b> by 23:59 UTC on 29 September! <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183400-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183400-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20240918183400-Voting_for_WikiProject_Military_history_coordinators_is_now_open!"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge" data-mw-thread-id="h-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge-20241008103900"><span id="R_Mon_RE_.28M.29_-_Brig_Ridge"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge-20241008103900"></span>R Mon RE (M) - Brig Ridge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge-20241008103900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: R Mon RE (M) - Brig Ridge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge"></span>Dormskirk, thankyou for keeping me on my toes :-) </p><p>The Gazette entries ref Brig Ridge, show that his SSLC / Gen List(University OTC???) / Reg C commission were outside the scope of life at R Mon RE(M). </p><p>He warrants a mention as a notable individual who started life as a soldier in the Regiment, and finished as a senior serving officer in the Corp. </p><p>Any advice on how this is best protrayed without incurring the wrath of experienced wikipediers welcome. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Militiaman_1539&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Militiaman 1539 (page does not exist)">Militiaman 1539</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Militiaman_1539" title="User talk:Militiaman 1539">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900-R_Mon_RE_(M)_-_Brig_Ridge"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241008110400-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900"></span>The best thing you can do is to start at debate on the subject at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Royal_Monmouthshire_Royal_Engineers" title="Talk:Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers">Talk:Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers</a>. You need to get consensus before adding contentious material. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241008110400-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:04, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241008110400-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241008110400-Militiaman_1539-20241008103900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700-Dormskirk-20241008110400"></span>Dormskirk,</dd> <dd>Thanks for the detail. Given his entry as a "former troop commander" has been removed I'm content that there is no further debate required. His gazette entries are conclusive that he did not commission as a Militiaman, otherwise he, like the rest of us in the unit would have his detail notified under the Regiment's entry at the head of the TA / Army Reserve section. The fact his gazette entry was a Gen List one is normal for those who commissioned whilst at a University OTC.</dd> <dd>John Ridge began his career as a Sapper in 100 Fd Sqn in Bristol (where he went to school). He competed in the arduos Cambrian Patrol competition in 1990 as a team member and subsequently left the unit to go to University.</dd> <dd>My question is thus - as notable former "member" of the regiment, who started life as a soldier and became an officer elsewhere, he is deserving of a mention on the page. What would you advice given your experience?</dd> <dd>MM <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Militiaman_1539&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Militiaman 1539 (page does not exist)">Militiaman 1539</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Militiaman_1539" title="User talk:Militiaman 1539">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700-Dormskirk-20241008110400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700-Dormskirk-20241008110400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700-Dormskirk-20241008110400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241008114100-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700"></span>My advice would be to drop the issue if you cannot provide conclusive evidence from the London Gazette etc that he served in the regiment. But the correct place to have this debate, as I have already said, is at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Royal_Monmouthshire_Royal_Engineers" title="Talk:Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers">Talk:Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers</a>...so that there can be a transparent debate on the issue. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241008114100-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241008114100-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241008114100-Militiaman_1539-20241008113700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800-Dormskirk-20241008114100"></span>Dormskirk. No need:</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://rmonrem.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Dining-Club-Newsletter-Sep-15.pdf">https://rmonrem.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Dining-Club-Newsletter-Sep-15.pdf</a> (page 4):</dd> <dd>John Ridge who is to be the next Commander 8 Brigade (a</dd> <dd>"Category A" Brigade on par with a Manoeuvre Brigade commanding</dd> <dd>some 10,000 soldiers), John was at Bristol Troop before going Regular</dd> <dd>in the early 1990's.</dd> <dd>I will however trawl through the wiki documentation links you sent this weekend.</dd> <dd>Regards and thanks,</dd> <dd>MM <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Militiaman_1539&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Militiaman 1539 (page does not exist)">Militiaman 1539</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Militiaman_1539" title="User talk:Militiaman 1539">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800-Dormskirk-20241008114100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800-Dormskirk-20241008114100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800-Dormskirk-20241008114100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241008125300-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800"></span>Yes, please get a good understanding of the guidelines before posting anything else. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241008125300-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241008125300-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241008125300-Militiaman_1539-20241008115800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Cotton" data-mw-thread-id="h-Cotton-20241011160400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Cotton-20241011160400"></span>Cotton<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Cotton-20241011160400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Cotton"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400-Cotton"></span>I had a suspicion that by adding Cotton to that list I would quickly see the link turn blue! <a href="/wiki/User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe" title="User:Pickersgill-Cunliffe">Pickersgill-Cunliffe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe" title="User talk:Pickersgill-Cunliffe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400-Cotton" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:04, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400-Cotton"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400-Cotton"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241011160500-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400"></span>I am delighted to prove that you were right! Best. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241011160500-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241011160500-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241011160500-Pickersgill-Cunliffe-20241011160400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Well_done" data-mw-thread-id="h-Well_done-20241014170700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Well_done-20241014170700"></span>Well done<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Well_done-20241014170700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Well done"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700-Well_done"></span>Well done for your improvements to French city hall articles. I had given them English-style titles as I mainly work on other countries' topics and they were already in English there (see pages I didn't create such as <a href="/wiki/Seville_City_Hall" title="Seville City Hall">Seville City Hall</a>) but it's good to have uniform to a topic. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Unknown_Temptation&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Unknown Temptation (page does not exist)">Unknown Temptation</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Unknown_Temptation" title="User talk:Unknown Temptation">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700-Well_done" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700-Well_done"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700-Well_done"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241014170800-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700"></span>Many thanks for the feedback. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241014170800-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241014170800-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241014170800-Unknown_Temptation-20241014170700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192600"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192600-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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You've done enormous harm by your carelessness and your ignorance. First, you've renamed the town "Wassenberg", and now, you've claimed that the edifice is not classified as a Monument historique, although it indisputably is (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://pop.culture.gouv.fr/notice/merimee/PA00085251">https://pop.culture.gouv.fr/notice/merimee/PA00085251</a>). Please take your sloppiness elsewhere. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Edelseider" title="User:Edelseider">Edelseider</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Edelseider" title="User talk:Edelseider">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Edelseider-20241026070200-Hôtel_de_Ville,_Wissembourg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Edelseider-20241026070200-Hôtel_de_Ville,_Wissembourg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Edelseider-20241026070200-Hôtel_de_Ville,_Wissembourg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241026082400-Edelseider-20241026070200"></span>Apologies for getting the name wrong: I edit many articles and I do make a few mistakes. Also thanks for adding the citation to demonstrate that the building is a "Monument historique" which was not cited correctly before. In the meantime, please can you read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">WP:NPA</a> and stop making your criticisms so personal. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241026082400-Edelseider-20241026070200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241026082400-Edelseider-20241026070200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241026082400-Edelseider-20241026070200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Raglan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Raglan-20241105174200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Raglan-20241105174200"></span>Raglan<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Raglan-20241105174200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Raglan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241105174200-Raglan"></span>Hello Dormskirk. As my source is another Wikipedia article, i was thinking that was enough as a reference. There are many sources. </p> <ul><li>Quinion, Michael. "Cardigan". World Wide Words. Retrieved 13 January 2013. "Another item whose name appeared at the time was the raglan, a type of overcoat named after Lord Raglan, a British general in the Crimea. The garment was unusual in that the sleeves continued in one piece up to the neck, producing a larger, looser armhole that suited the one-armed general."</li> <li>Oxford English Dictionary Third edition, (2008) online version September 2011, retrieved 7 November 2011. An entry for this word was first included in New English Dictionary, 1903.</li> <li>Wong, Stephen; Grob, Dave (2016). Game Worn: Baseball Treasures from the Game's Greatest Heroes and Moments. Smithsonian Institution. p. 295. ISBN 9781588345714. "The raglan sleeve provides mobility and flexibility in the arm and shoulder and has remained popular in baseball jerseys."</li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://biographs.org/lord-raglan">https://biographs.org/lord-raglan</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://husbands-paris.com/en/journal/the-raglan-coat/">https://husbands-paris.com/en/journal/the-raglan-coat/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://fashionsecrecy.com/raglan-shirt/">https://fashionsecrecy.com/raglan-shirt/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://silverbobbin.com/what-are-raglan-sleeves/">https://silverbobbin.com/what-are-raglan-sleeves/</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://shopcanoeclub.com/blogs/editorial/the-surprising-history-of-the-raglan-sleeve">https://shopcanoeclub.com/blogs/editorial/the-surprising-history-of-the-raglan-sleeve</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>Wikipedia cannot be used as source (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIRCULAR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIRCULAR">WP:CIRCULAR</a>). But the source that I have already added for you is fine. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241105174200-Raglan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241105174200-Raglan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241105174200-Raglan"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024-20241030120200"><span id="The_Bugle:_Issue_222.2C_October_2024"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024-20241030120200"></span><i>The Bugle</i>: Issue 222, October 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024-20241030120200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: The Bugle: Issue 222, October 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" style="border: 1px gray solid; padding: 1em;"> <table> <tbody><tr> <td><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News"><img alt="Full front page of The Bugle" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/250px-The_Bugle.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="71" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/375px-The_Bugle.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Bugle.png/500px-The_Bugle.png 2x" data-file-width="1400" data-file-height="400"/></a></span> </td> <td width="100%" valign="top"><div style="text-align: center; color: darkslategray;"><b>Your Military History Newsletter</b></div> <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> <ul><li>Project news: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/October_2024/Project_news" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/October 2024/Project news">From the editors; awards and honours; contest results</a></i></li> <li>Articles: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/October_2024/Articles" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/October 2024/Articles">Last month's new featured and A-class content</a></i></li> <li>Book review: <i><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/News/October_2024/Book_reviews" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/News/October 2024/Book reviews">Hawkeye7 on US Army divisions in the Pacific War, Nick-D on the First Indochina War</a></i></li></ul> </div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div style="font-size: 85%; margin:0 auto; text-align:center;"> <p><i>The Bugle</i> is published by the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history">Military history WikiProject</a>. 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Your editors, <a href="/wiki/User:Ian_Rose" title="User:Ian Rose">Ian Rose</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ian_Rose" title="User talk:Ian Rose">talk</a>) and <a href="/wiki/User:Nick-D" title="User:Nick-D">Nick-D</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nick-D" title="User talk:Nick-D">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nick-D-20241030120200-The_Bugle:_Issue_222,_October_2024"></span> </p> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge" data-mw-thread-id="h-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge-20241106004600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge-20241106004600"></span>ACCHAN coat of arms and ACCHAN badge<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge-20241106004600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: ACCHAN coat of arms and ACCHAN badge"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge"></span>On top there is a drawing representing the coat of arms of ACCHAN, while I have added the picture of the badge of ACCHAN, which is a different item and has a great value, because it link the page to a real life object that was on the chest of many and many servicemen and women who have served un that specific Command. Since the drawing is made by an author it is not validated by anyone and even thug it is correct it leaks of any official confirmation, while the badge is a real object and is able to validate the drawing of the coat of arms, giving to the same an higher level of validity and significance. It is also extremely relevant to have this picture on the page, because it is an historic item and it gives a sense of real life and a connection to the past, which is absolutely necessary if the page is referred to something that now is no longer in existence. Not only, the picture is a really nice picture of a beautiful object with great colors and a perfect and stylish aspect. To remove it, is a pure act of violence and senseless vandalism. Refrain from such attitude. <a href="/wiki/User:FrancescoC.italy" title="User:FrancescoC.italy">FrancescoC.italy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:FrancescoC.italy" title="User talk:FrancescoC.italy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600-ACCHAN_coat_of_arms_and_ACCHAN_badge"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241106011700-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600"></span>The two pictures look almost identical to me. In the meantime please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPA">WP:NPA</a>. Accusing me of violence is completely unacceptable. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241106011700-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241106011700-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241106011700-FrancescoC.italy-20241106004600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004000"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113004000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113004000-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001200-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001200-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001200-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations-20241121100600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations-20241121100600"></span>Mixed full and short inline citations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations-20241121100600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Mixed full and short inline citations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elrondil-20241121100600-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations"></span>I added <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Citation_style" title="Template:Citation style">citation style</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to <a href="/wiki/RAF_Bomber_Command" title="RAF Bomber Command">RAF Bomber Command</a> a day or so ago because the article uses both full inline citations and short inline citations. Should it not be consistently one way or the other rather than mixed? It seems inline short citations is the predominant style. </p><p>I had also added <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Full_citations_needed" title="Template:Full citations needed">full citations needed</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> because some citations are rather scant, e.g., "President Franklin D. Roosevelt Appeal against aerial bombardment of civilian populations, 1 September 1939". Should access-date and website not be added at minimum? <a href="/wiki/User:Elrondil" title="User:Elrondil">Elrondil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elrondil" title="User talk:Elrondil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Elrondil-20241121100600-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elrondil-20241121100600-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elrondil-20241121100600-Mixed_full_and_short_inline_citations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241121101800-Elrondil-20241121100600"></span>I have changed most of the book related references to short-line citations. The remaining long-form citations relate to journals or newspaper articles: in my view it would be unusual to use short-form citations for newspaper articles. I have also now expanded the citation regarding President Roosevelt's Appeal. If you want to make any further improvements yourself, please go ahead. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241121101800-Elrondil-20241121100600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241121101800-Elrondil-20241121100600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241121101800-Elrondil-20241121100600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elrondil-20241121103300-Dormskirk-20241121101800"></span>So the only way to get consistency is long-form citations? That would need consensus. Is such consensus possible? Using list-defined references as per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LDR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LDR">WP:LDR</a> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Rp" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Rp">rp</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> might be an acceptable middle ground. <a href="/wiki/User:Elrondil" title="User:Elrondil">Elrondil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elrondil" title="User talk:Elrondil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Elrondil-20241121103300-Dormskirk-20241121101800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elrondil-20241121103300-Dormskirk-20241121101800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elrondil-20241121103300-Dormskirk-20241121101800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241121104200-Elrondil-20241121103300"></span>I have done quite a lot of work achieving consistency by changing the books to short form citation style: you could change the newspaper articles to short form style as well but I am not sure that achieves anything. See <a href="/wiki/Joe_Biden" title="Joe Biden">Joe Biden</a> which uses short form style for books and long-form style for newspaper articles. That's pretty standard. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241121104200-Elrondil-20241121103300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241121104200-Elrondil-20241121103300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241121104200-Elrondil-20241121103300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Elrondil-20241121105500-Dormskirk-20241121104200"></span>I'll let it be. Any objection to me adding <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Convert" title="Template:Convert">convert</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> to quantities in "ton", which I take are all <a href="/wiki/Long_ton" title="Long ton">long ton</a> as per Weights and Measures Act 1985? So that all quantities are in imperial units first and metric second, as seems to be the current preference in the article? <a href="/wiki/User:Elrondil" title="User:Elrondil">Elrondil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Elrondil" title="User talk:Elrondil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Elrondil-20241121105500-Dormskirk-20241121104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Elrondil-20241121105500-Dormskirk-20241121104200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Elrondil-20241121105500-Dormskirk-20241121104200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241121105800-Elrondil-20241121105500"></span>That's fine. Please go ahead. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241121105800-Elrondil-20241121105500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241121105800-Elrondil-20241121105500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241121105800-Elrondil-20241121105500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-20241124025500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-20241124025500"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-20241124025500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HtialilwW-20241124025500-Thank_you"></span>Hello, I’m <a href="/wiki/User:HtialilwW" title="User:HtialilwW">HtialilwW</a>. I would like to extend my sincere gratitude for your dedication and hard work in creating the <a href="/wiki/Dhekelia_Cantonment" title="Dhekelia Cantonment">Dhekelia Cantonment</a> article and many others. I love editing and fixing errors on the article with my brother. Your 15 years of editing experience has greatly enriched the platform, and it's evident that many users appreciate and enjoy the quality of your contributions. The insightful information and thoroughness in your articles not only enhance the community but also inspire others to engage in editing. Thank you once again for your invaluable efforts and commitment to knowledge sharing. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:HtialilwW" title="User:HtialilwW">HtialilwW</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HtialilwW" title="User talk:HtialilwW">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-HtialilwW-20241124025500-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HtialilwW-20241124025500-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HtialilwW-20241124025500-Thank_you"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241124105600-HtialilwW-20241124025500"></span>Hi - That's extremely kind - many thanks. I wish all Wikipedia editors were as gracious as yourself. Very best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241124105600-HtialilwW-20241124025500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241124105600-HtialilwW-20241124025500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241124105600-HtialilwW-20241124025500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)" data-mw-thread-id="h-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)-20241124162600"><span id="HMS_Raleigh_.28Shore_Establishment.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)-20241124162600"></span>HMS Raleigh (Shore Establishment)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)-20241124162600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: HMS Raleigh (Shore Establishment)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)"></span>Good afternoon, earlier today you archived some edits I made to HMS Raleigh’s page, including the names of the Phase One training divisions, the divisions were named after British Naval hero’s, and are are all listed on the Royal Navy’s own forums that allow friends and family to check on recruits progress here: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://forum.royalnavy.mod.uk/groups/units/training/hms-raleigh/initial-naval-training/">https://forum.royalnavy.mod.uk/groups/units/training/hms-raleigh/initial-naval-training/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Crawshaw7135" title="User:Crawshaw7135">Crawshaw7135</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crawshaw7135" title="User talk:Crawshaw7135">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600-HMS_Raleigh_(Shore_Establishment)"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241124164400-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600"></span>Hi - Thanks for that. Unfortunately <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SPS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SPS">WP:SPS</a> states that "Internet forum postings, and social media postings are largely not acceptable as sources". Please could you review <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> and try and find some "reliable, independent, published sources". Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241124164400-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241124164400-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241124164400-Crawshaw7135-20241124162600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500-Dormskirk-20241124164400"></span>If you look at the link I provided, that is not an actual forum post, but is part of the Royal Navy’s actual website with board names corresponding to the divisions that the posts can be made to. Apart from this there is no official link that states the names of the 8 different training divisions at HMS Raleigh, but I have found these links that do mention some of them.</dd> <dd>Hanson Division mention: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://hmsardent.org/gallery/hms-raleigh-ardent">https://hmsardent.org/gallery/hms-raleigh-ardent</a></dd> <dd>Mention of Fisher and Cornwell Divisions with history of each division mentioned: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.rnrmc.org.uk/news/hms-raleigh-passing-out-parade-celebration-dedication-and-achievement">https://www.rnrmc.org.uk/news/hms-raleigh-passing-out-parade-celebration-dedication-and-achievement</a></dd> <dd>Mention of Cornwell Division, including history of Boy Seaman Jack Cornwell VC, whom the division is named after: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2016/march/17/160317-raleigh-company-divisions">https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2016/march/17/160317-raleigh-company-divisions</a></dd> <dd>Mention of Gould division:</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://bootcampmilitaryfitnessinstitute.com/2021/01/26/new-co-for-hms-raleigh/">https://bootcampmilitaryfitnessinstitute.com/2021/01/26/new-co-for-hms-raleigh/</a></dd> <dd>Mention of Nelson division:</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/royal-navy-veteran-takes-lead-2887630.amp">https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/royal-navy-veteran-takes-lead-2887630.amp</a></dd> <dd>Mention of Cunningham Division</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2017/december/06/171206-fleet-commander-reviews-ships-company-divisions-at-hms-raleigh">https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2017/december/06/171206-fleet-commander-reviews-ships-company-divisions-at-hms-raleigh</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Crawshaw7135" title="User:Crawshaw7135">Crawshaw7135</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crawshaw7135" title="User talk:Crawshaw7135">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500-Dormskirk-20241124164400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500-Dormskirk-20241124164400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500-Dormskirk-20241124164400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241124184900-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500"></span>OK. Thanks for that. I have restored the names of the divisions and who they are named after. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241124184900-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241124184900-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241124184900-Crawshaw7135-20241124182500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200-Dormskirk-20241124184900"></span>Many thanks- from a serving instructor of Cornwell Division. <a href="/wiki/User:Crawshaw7135" title="User:Crawshaw7135">Crawshaw7135</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crawshaw7135" title="User talk:Crawshaw7135">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200-Dormskirk-20241124184900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200-Dormskirk-20241124184900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200-Dormskirk-20241124184900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241124221800-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200"></span>No problem. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:Dormskirk" title="User:Dormskirk">Dormskirk</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Dormskirk-20241124221800-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dormskirk-20241124221800-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dormskirk-20241124221800-Crawshaw7135-20241124213200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Shell_plc" data-mw-thread-id="h-Shell_plc-20241127053900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Shell_plc-20241127053900"></span>Shell plc<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Shell_plc-20241127053900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dormskirk&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Shell plc"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awilt17-20241127053900-Shell_plc"></span>Please stop this. Your following edit didn’t make sense. I found this information online <a href="/wiki/User:Awilt17" title="User:Awilt17">Awilt17</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awilt17" title="User talk:Awilt17">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dormskirk#c-Awilt17-20241127053900-Shell_plc" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awilt17-20241127053900-Shell_plc"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awilt17-20241127053900-Shell_plc"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dormskirk-20241127072800-Awilt17-20241127053900"></span>Please read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RUMOUR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RUMOUR">WP:RUMOUR</a> "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation, rumors, or presumptions"...."and rumors are not appropriate". The online article actually states this is a "rumour" so it is "not appropriate". 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