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font-weight: bold;">This is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> for discussing improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Twinkle" title="Wikipedia:Twinkle">Twinkle</a> page.<br/></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <div class="talkheader-body"> <div class="talkheader-help"> <ul><li>Put new text under old text. <strong><a href="/wiki/Special:NewSection/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle" title="Special:NewSection/Wikipedia talk:Twinkle">Click here to start a new topic.</a></strong></li> <li>New to Wikipedia? Welcome! <a href="/wiki/Help:Introduction" title="Help:Introduction">Learn to edit</a>; <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Questions" title="Wikipedia:Questions">get help</a>.</li></ul> </div> <div class="talkheader-policies"> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith" title="Wikipedia:Assume good faith">Assume good faith</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility" title="Wikipedia:Civility">Be polite</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks" title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks">avoid personal attacks</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers" title="Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers">Be welcoming to newcomers</a></li> <li>Seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution requests">dispute resolution</a> if needed</li></ul> </div> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">Tips for writing good bug reports and feature requests: <ul><li>Include the affected article name and a diff.</li> <li>Include a screenshot.</li> <li>For bugs, include the exact <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:STEPSTOREPRODUCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:STEPSTOREPRODUCE">steps to reproduce</a> the bug. Bugs need to be reproducible.</li></ul> We will use this information to create a ticket on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle">GitHub</a>, which is our todo list for volunteer developers. For most tickets, expect them to take a long time (months). They will need to attract the interest of a volunteer developer, then go through code review, then get merged to master, then get deployed.</td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">Twinkle has detailed documentation located at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TW/DOC" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TW/DOC">WP:TW/DOC</a>.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"> </p> <table id="archivebox" role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice mbox-small" style="text-align: center; padding: 1em;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding:0.6em 0 0.25em;"> <div style="width:100%; overflow:hidden;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/40px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/80px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span><br/><b>Archives</b></div> </td></tr><tr> <td class="plainlinks"> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_index" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive index">Index</a> <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_1" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 1">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_2" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 2">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_3" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 3">3</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_4" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 4">4</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_5" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 5">5</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_6" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 6">6</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_7" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 7">7</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_8" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 8">8</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_9" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 9">9</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_10" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 10">10</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_11" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 11">11</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_12" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 12">12</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_13" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 13">13</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_14" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 14">14</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_15" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 15">15</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_16" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 16">16</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_17" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 17">17</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_18" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 18">18</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_19" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 19">19</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_20" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 20">20</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_21" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 21">21</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_22" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 22">22</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_23" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 23">23</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_24" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 24">24</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_25" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 25">25</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_26" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 26">26</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_27" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 27">27</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_28" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 28">28</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_29" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 29">29</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_30" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 30">30</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_31" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 31">31</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_32" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 32">32</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_33" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 33">33</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_34" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 34">34</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_35" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 35">35</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_36" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 36">36</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_37" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 37">37</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_38" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 38">38</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_39" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 39">39</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_40" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 40">40</a><br/><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_41" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 41">41</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_42" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 42">42</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_43" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 43">43</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_44" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 44">44</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_45" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 45">45</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_46" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 46">46</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_47" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 47">47</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_48" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive 48">48</a></td></tr><tr><td class="plainlinks" style="padding:0px 10px; text-align:left;"> <div style="text-align: center;"><b>Other archives</b></div> <div style="text-align: center;">Friendly talk archives: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_Friendly_1" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive Friendly 1">1</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_Friendly_2" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive Friendly 2">2</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_Friendly_3" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive Friendly 3">3</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_Friendly_4" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive Friendly 4">4</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Archive_Friendly_5" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Archive Friendly 5">5</a></div> <div style="text-align:center;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle/Bugs" title="Wikipedia talk:Twinkle/Bugs">Old Bugs page</a>; archive <a 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Sections older than <b>30 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 10 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits" data-mw-thread-id="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"></span>Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits-20241023021700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Noticeboard notifications are marked as minor edits"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1227084136">.mw-parser-output .tracked{float:right;clear:right;margin:0 0 1em 1em;width:12em;border:1px solid #72777d;border-radius:2px;background-color:var(--background-color-interactive,#EAECF0);color:var(--color-base,#202122);font-size:85%;text-align:center;padding:0.5em}.mw-parser-output .tracked-url{font-weight:bold}.mw-parser-output .tracked-closure{color:black;font-weight:bold;text-transform:uppercase}.mw-parser-output .tracked-resolved{color:green}</style><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2032">Issue #2032</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"></span>When a user is given a noticeboard notification through the Talkback feature (I don't know about the other three), it somehow gets marked as minor (<a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1252810183" title="Special:Diff/1252810183">diff</a>). This causes the user to not receive the notification associated with the edit (I know, because ClueBot marks my talk page archivings as minor and I don't get new message alerts on them). Since the point of these notifications is to make sure they are aware of the discussion (especially since ANI requires the user to be notified), these should not be marked as minor. <a href="/wiki/User:Miraclepine" title="User:Miraclepine">ミラP</a>@<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Miraclepine#top" title="User talk:Miraclepine">Miraclepine</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Miraclepine-20241023021700-Noticeboard_notifications_are_marked_as_minor_edits"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"></span>Users will get a notification alright even if the edit is marked as minor. ClueBot doesn't trigger notifications because its edits are additionally marked as bot edits. – <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SD0001-20241023052900-Miraclepine-20241023021700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"></span>No, minor edits on your user talk don't trigger alerts. <a href="/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20241023075600-SD0001-20241023052900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"></span>From testing it on testwiki, looks like you're right. Is this some recent change? I've always remembered it working that way, and it's what the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/d4c4924948d6a48243001f74bd9ccb55803a760b/includes/Storage/DerivedPageDataUpdater.php#L1661">code says</a> as well – minor edits should suppress notifications only if the editor has <code>nominornewtalk</code> right, which per <a href="/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights" title="Special:ListGroupRights">Special:ListGroupRights</a> is only available to bots. – <a href="/wiki/User:SD0001" title="User:SD0001"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #C30">SD0001</span></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SD0001" title="User talk:SD0001">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SD0001-20241025115400-Nardog-20241023075600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"></span>It's worked that way for as far back as I can remember. <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/883819932" title="Special:Diff/883819932">Here</a>'s me telling an editor to mark their c/e edits on my talk page as minor in February 2019. <a href="/wiki/User:Nardog" title="User:Nardog">Nardog</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nardog" title="User talk:Nardog">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nardog-20241026051600-SD0001-20241025115400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"></span>Adding article functionality to <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome_cookie" title="Template:Welcome cookie">Template:Welcome cookie</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie-20241028093400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Adding article functionality to Template:Welcome cookie"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"></span>Hello, </p><p>Would it be possible to add article naming functionality to <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome_Cookie" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Welcome Cookie">Template:Welcome Cookie</a> in the same way as <a href="/wiki/Template:Welcome" title="Template:Welcome">Template:Welcome</a>? This way, the template would say something to the effect of "I noticed your edits on <x article> and wanted to welcome you! Etc. Let me know if this has already been discussed! </p><p>Thanks! </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400-Adding_article_functionality_to_Template:Welcome_cookie"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"></span>Thanks for the idea. This page is mainly for changing the Twinkle gadget. Requests for coders to edit/improve templates might be a better fit for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RT">WP:RT</a> or <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VPT">WP:VPT</a>. Hope that helps. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241028093400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"></span>Thank you @<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a>, will follow up there.</dd> <dd>Have a great day!</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User:JuxtaposedJacob">JuxtaposedJacob</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JuxtaposedJacob" title="User talk:JuxtaposedJacob">talk</a>) | :) | he/him | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700-Novem_Linguae-20241028095000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_declined.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="no" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/18px-Symbol_declined.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/27px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/36px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Closing without action</b> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241031204000-JuxtaposedJacob-20241031064700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikipedia_Dark_Mode" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"></span>Wikipedia Dark Mode<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode-20241031131600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Wikipedia Dark Mode"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/1979">Issue #1979</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"></span>Could we add support for the new wikipedia dark mode? <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" title="User:TheWikipede">TheWikipede</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" title="User talk:TheWikipede">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241031131600-Wikipedia_Dark_Mode"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration" data-mw-thread-id="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"></span>Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration-20241102222100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Adding other Welcomeen templates to the default configuration"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2038">Issue #2038</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"></span>Hey. As someone who frequently welcomes new users, I sometimes have the occasion to use the many welcomeen templates, which basically says "Hi! Unfortunately, you're not fluent in English. Please edit another language Wikipedia. Thank you." I have had to add several welcomeen templates, and I propose that all be added to the default configuration. Please note that I've used all of them at least once. </p> <ul><li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ha" title="Template:Welcomeen-ha">subst:Welcomeen-ha</a>}} (Hausa)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-hi" title="Template:Welcomeen-hi">subst:Welcomeen-hi</a>}} (Hindi)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-id" title="Template:Welcomeen-id">subst:Welcomeen-id</a>}} (Indonesian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-it" title="Template:Welcomeen-it">subst:Welcomeen-it</a>}} (Italian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ms" title="Template:Welcomeen-ms">subst:Welcomeen-ms</a>}} (Malay)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-fa" title="Template:Welcomeen-fa">subst:Welcomeen-fa</a>}} (Persian)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-th" title="Template:Welcomeen-th">subst:Welcomeen-th</a>}} (Thai)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-ur" title="Template:Welcomeen-ur">subst:Welcomeen-ur</a>}} (Urdu)</li> <li>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Welcomeen-vi" title="Template:Welcomeen-vi">subst:Welcomeen-vi</a>}} (Vietnamese)</li></ul> <p>Now, I'm vaguely aware that other welcomeen templates exist. On principle, I'm not opposed to having all of them added to the default configuration of Twinkle. I'm just trying to prevent inertia by suggesting only the ones I've had occasion to use. <a href="/wiki/User:I_dream_of_horses" title="User:I dream of horses">I dream of horses</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_dream_of_horses" title="Special:Contributions/I dream of horses">(Hoofprints)</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:I_dream_of_horses" title="User talk:I dream of horses">(Neigh at me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-I_dream_of_horses-20241102222100-Adding_other_Welcomeen_templates_to_the_default_configuration"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="CFD/S_merging" data-mw-thread-id="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"><span id="CFD.2FS_merging"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"></span>CFD/S merging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-CFD/S_merging-20241102235500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: CFD/S merging"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2040">Issue #2040</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"></span>In <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1255067356" title="Special:Diff/1255067356">Special:Diff/1255067356</a>, I expected it to put a merge tag ({{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfm-speedy" title="Template:Cfm-speedy">subst:cfm-speedy</a>}}), but it put a rename tag instead. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500-CFD/S_merging"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span>Misclick? Has it happened anywhere else? <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20241103123400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"></span>I don't see how it could have been a misclick – there's no "rename vs merge" option to incorrectly select, and it did go through as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2F" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2F">C2F</a> (as shown in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1255067358" title="Special:Diff/1255067358">Special:Diff/1255067358</a>). I think the issue is that <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2">the speedy category criteria</a> are mostly for renaming, and Twinkle doesn't know that C2F is the exception – it's for speedy <i>merging</i>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241103151500-Primefac-20241103123400"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">Jlwoodwa</a>. Can you confirm the steps you took? Was it TW -> XFD -> CfD/S -> C2D?</dd> <dd>When I did that on testwiki just now, it placed <code class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">{{subst:cfr-speedy|1=Trochilinae}}</code>. But you're saying it should instead place <code class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr">{{subst:cfm-speedy|1=Trochilinae}}</code>? –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400-Jlwoodwa-20241102235500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"></span>Almost – it was TW→XfD→CfD/S→C2<b>F</b>. Most of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2">the speedy category criteria</a> are used for renaming, but <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:C2F" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:C2F">WP:C2F</a> is for merging, so I think it should place <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfr-speedy" title="Template:Cfr-speedy">subst:cfr-speedy</a>}}</code> in most cases and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cfm-speedy" title="Template:Cfm-speedy">subst:cfm-speedy</a>}}</code> only when C2F is used. <a href="/wiki/User:Jlwoodwa" title="User:Jlwoodwa">jlwoodwa</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jlwoodwa" title="User talk:Jlwoodwa">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jlwoodwa-20241111164400-Novem_Linguae-20241111153400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"></span>Request for a new warning to be added<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added-20241104004400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Request for a new warning to be added"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2034">Issue #2034</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"></span>Every once in a while I have to use the <a href="/wiki/Template:Uw-pronouns1" title="Template:Uw-pronouns1">Uw-pronouns</a> series of warnings, and it kind of bugs me that this isn't available for use with twinkle. I'm not quite sure if this is right place to suggest something like this, and if it isn't then I would greatly appreciated being pointed in the right direction. <span style="font-family: Arial; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;"><a href="/wiki/User:Gaismagorm" title="User:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">Gaismagorm</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gaismagorm" title="User talk:Gaismagorm"><span style="color: teal">(talk)</span></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gaismagorm-20241104004400-Request_for_a_new_warning_to_be_added"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_closed?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"><span id="Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_closed.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"></span>Can we have a warning for renominating pages where the discussion was recently closed?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c-20241108024100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Can we have a warning for renominating pages where the discussion was recently closed?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2039">Issue #2039</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"></span>This would be very ideal as I am not always aware when using Twinkle whether a page has recently been nominated for deletion or not. I just made that same mistake again and I think this problem is avoidable. Something like this: </p> <ul><li><i>Warning: This page was was recently nominated for deletion and had its discussion closed. Please take caution before renominating again.</i></li></ul> <p>or something similar. <a href="/wiki/User:Awesome_Aasim" title="User:Awesome Aasim">Awesome</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Awesome_Aasim" title="User talk:Awesome Aasim">Aasim</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100-Can_we_have_a_warning_for_renominating_pages_where_the_discussion_was_recently_c"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"></span>See also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2013">this issue</a> (related, but different), about giving a heads-up when undeleting a page that was previously undeleted.<span id="Frostly:1731280557498:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNTwinkle" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Frostly" title="User:Frostly">Frostly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frostly" title="User talk:Frostly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frostly-20241110231500-Awesome_Aasim-20241108024100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"></span>There's also this thing called "checking the talk page first" as that is the normal location for notifications of previous nominations. <a href="/wiki/User:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User:Just Step Sideways">Just Step Sideways</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Just_Step_Sideways" title="User talk:Just Step Sideways"><sup>from this world ..... today</sup></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Just_Step_Sideways-20241111011300-Frostly-20241110231500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"></span>Advert and Promotional content templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates-20241108171100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Advert and Promotional content templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2035">Issue #2035</a></span><br/><span class="tracked-closure tracked-resolved">Resolved</span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"></span>Following a TfD, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Advert" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Advert">Advert</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Promotional_tone" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Promotional tone">Promotional tone</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> have been merged and moved to <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Promotional" title="Template:Promotional">Promotional</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. Please update Twinkle accordingly. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing" title="User:Pigsonthewing">Andy Mabbett</a></span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pigsonthewing" title="User talk:Pigsonthewing">Talk to Andy</a>; <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing" title="Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing">Andy's edits</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pigsonthewing-20241108171100-Advert_and_Promotional_content_templates"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');" data-mw-thread-id="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"><span id="mw.loader.load.28.27ext.gadget.TwinkleAr.27.29.3B"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"></span>mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');<span data-mw-comment-end="h-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');-20241108214100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"></span><figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/220px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png" decoding="async" width="220" height="156" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/330px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png/440px-Twinkle_File_maintenence_tagging.png 2x" data-file-width="942" data-file-height="667"/></a><figcaption>the options that i never get in arwiki</figcaption></figure> <p>Hi Every one, <br/> </p><p> I'm Ayoub from arwiki, sorry if i ask for help in the wrong place nd sorry for my english, As you may know arwiki use </p><div class="mw-highlight mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre>mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');</pre></div> <p>as <a class="external text" href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A:Gadget-Twinkle.js">here</a> to load Twinkle, and it works very well, but in File namespace when i choice<b>Tw>Tag</b> its gives me nothing, but in articles pages it works, so I need help to fix that probleme, <span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241108214100-mw.loader.load('ext.gadget.TwinkleAr');"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"></span>It might be better to get a technical person from your own wiki to look into this. Have you tried posting somewhere like <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9" class="extiw" title="ar:ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية">ar:ويكيبيديا:الميدان/تقنية</a> or <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AD_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%B5%D8%B1" class="extiw" title="ar:نقاش ويكيبيديا:لمح البصر">ar:نقاش_ويكيبيديا:لمح_البصر</a>? –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000-أيوب-20241108214100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a> Thank you for replay, I tried to share this issus with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Interface_administrators" title="Wikipedia:Interface administrators">Interface administrators</a> in <a href="https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A5%D8%AE%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%B1_%D8%A5%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%87%D8%A9#تحديث_لمح_البصر" class="extiw" title="ar:ويكيبيديا:إخطار إداريي الواجهة">Wikipedia:Interface administrators' noticeboard</a> there, but i don't get any information exept that Twinkle in arwiki is load from enwiki, that's why i open this topic here hoping find any help. — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241111194900-Novem_Linguae-20241111172000"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae">Novem Linguae</a> thank you again, the issus is fixed. — <a href="/wiki/User:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User:أيوب"><span style="color:#008bff; font-family: Courier; font-size: 16px;"><b>أيوب</b></span></a><sup> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D8%A3%D9%8A%D9%88%D8%A8" title="User talk:أيوب"><span style="color:#8863e5; font-family: ;">(<b>Talk 📧</b>)</span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-أيوب-20241111211600-أيوب-20241108214100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"></span>You're welcome. <span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_declined.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="no" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/18px-Symbol_declined.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="19" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/27px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Symbol_declined.svg/36px-Symbol_declined.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span><b> Closing without action</b> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241112032700-أيوب-20241111211600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"><span id="Vandalism.2FPromotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"></span>Vandalism/Promotion Only Account greyed out<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out-20241112154700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Vandalism/Promotion Only Account greyed out"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span>Why is vandalism-only account and promotion-only account greyed out in the ARV menu? <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" title="User:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" title="User talk:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;"><i>talk</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241112154700-Vandalism/Promotion_Only_Account_greyed_out"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"></span>Are you looking at an IP? <span class="nowrap vcard"><b><span class="fn"><a href="/wiki/User:NightWolf1223" title="User:NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">NightWolf1223</span></a></span> <<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NightWolf1223" title="User talk:NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">Howl at me</span></a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223" title="Special:Contributions/NightWolf1223"><span style="color:green;">My hunts</span></a>></b></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NightWolf1223-20241112160500-TheWikipede-20241112154700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"></span>Yeah <a href="/wiki/User:TheWikipede" title="User:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue; text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px lightblue;">TheWikipede</span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:TheWikipede" title="User talk:TheWikipede"><span style="font-family: monospace; color: blue;"><i>talk</i></span></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TheWikipede-20241112174500-NightWolf1223-20241112160500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"></span>Likely because IPs are editors but are not accounts. <a href="/wiki/User:Primefac" title="User:Primefac">Primefac</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Primefac" title="User talk:Primefac">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Primefac-20241112201100-TheWikipede-20241112174500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click" data-mw-thread-id="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"></span>Twinkle does not update selections when copy-pasting via right click<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click-20241116183200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Twinkle does not update selections when copy-pasting via right click"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/issues/2050">Issue #2050</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"></span>Virtually what the title says. I discovered this as I got lazy when adding tags via twinkle.<br/> Steps:<br/> 1. Open the Twinkle gadget for tagging<br/> 2. Use the copy paste feature when right clicking to paste in a valid option (in my case, unreferenced)<br/> Expected result: Twinkle should update to show the unreferenced option.<br/> Actual result: Nothing updates and it stays on the screen from when it was opened.<br/> Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User:Kline" title="User:Kline">Kline</a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kline" title="User talk:Kline">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kline" title="Special:Contributions/Kline">contribs</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kline-20241116183200-Twinkle_does_not_update_selections_when_copy-pasting_via_right_click"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing" data-mw-thread-id="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"></span>Request for an RfPP preset that addresses specific pattern of disruptive editing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing-20241119223100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Request for an RfPP preset that addresses specific pattern of disruptive editing"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"></span>It would be nice to be able to select a page-protection preset designed to address MAB-style IP sockpuppetry on noticeboards where we want to avoid restricting new editors' access. Currently I've been applying 1-hour or 2-hour autoconfirmed or pending changes restrictions; I don't have strong opinions about what exact number is best but I can propose 2 hours pending changes as the preset in order to have a concrete suggestion to start with. The current sockpuppetry log statement is essentially fine, could be made more precise as <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Persistent sockpuppetry of a high-traffic forum</q>. <sub>signed, </sub><a href="/wiki/User:Rosguill" title="User:Rosguill"><i><b>Rosguill</b></i></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rosguill" title="User talk:Rosguill"><i>talk</i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rosguill-20241119223100-Request_for_an_RfPP_preset_that_addresses_specific_pattern_of_disruptive_editing"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago" data-mw-thread-id="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"></span>Twinkle shows Teahouse is protected when it expired two minutes ago<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago-20241119235800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Twinkle shows Teahouse is protected when it expired two minutes ago"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"></span>At 23:45 November 19, 2024, I was going to remove the protection template from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:TH" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:TH">the teahouse</a> when Twinkle says that it is protected. It actually expired two minutes ago (23:43 November 19). I think this is because my local time is "earlier" than UTC time (for example, if UTC is at 13:00, my local time is still before that), and Twinkle assumes my time zone is the same as UTC. </p> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Twinkle_protection_error.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/300px-Twinkle_protection_error.png" decoding="async" width="300" height="224" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/450px-Twinkle_protection_error.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Twinkle_protection_error.png/600px-Twinkle_protection_error.png 2x" data-file-width="1256" data-file-height="936"/></a><figcaption>I captured a screenshot of the error.</figcaption></figure> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Myrealnamm" title="User:Myrealnamm"><span style="color:#0085BD">My</span><span style="color:#ED7700">real</span><span style="color:#2A7E19">namm</span></a> <big>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Myrealnamm" title="User talk:Myrealnamm">💬Let's talk</a></big> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm" title="Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm">📜My work</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Myrealnamm-20241119235800-Twinkle_shows_Teahouse_is_protected_when_it_expired_two_minutes_ago"></span> </p><div style="clear:both;" class=""></div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Renaming_fluff_to_rollback" data-mw-thread-id="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"></span>Renaming fluff to rollback<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback-20241121091500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Renaming fluff to rollback"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1227084136"><div role="note" class="tracked plainlinks mw-trackedTemplate">Tracked in github.com<br/><span class="tracked-url"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://github.com/wikimedia-gadgets/twinkle/pull/2056">Issue #2056</a></span><br/></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"></span>Hello talk page watchers. I have a patch in the queue that, once merged, will rename "fluff" to "rollback". Fluff is the bespoke name for Twinkle's rollback module which provides [rollback] links on diff pages. Anyway, this also involves renaming the preference variables confirmOnFluff and confirmOnMobileFluff. Changing these preference names will make Twinkle forget those two particular preferences for <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22confirmOnFluff%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns118=1&ns119=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&ns710=1&ns711=1&ns828=1&ns829=1">937 users</a> that are not using the default setting. If this patch is merged as is, those folks will have to go to their Twinkle preferences and turn those preferences back on manually. </p><p>Anyway, just wanted to check with the group first. Is this kind of collateral damage acceptable here? (A bunch of the 937 are probably inactive.) Or does it need to be mitigated somehow, with backwards compatibility code, an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AWB">WP:AWB</a> run to change them all, etc? I'm leaning towards it being acceptable, but happy to hear other thoughts. Thanks. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500-Renaming_fluff_to_rollback"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241122104700-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span>I'd personally lean towards doing an AWB run to rename the variables, because it's low-risk and a quick fix.<span id="Frostly:1732356091450:Wikipedia_talkFTTCLNTwinkle" class="FTTCmt"> — <a href="/wiki/User:Frostly" title="User:Frostly">Frostly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Frostly" title="User talk:Frostly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a></span><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Frostly-20241123100100-Novem_Linguae-20241121091500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"></span>SD0001 wrote a patch to provide reverse compatibility, so we'll just do that I think. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241123172300-Frostly-20241123100100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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