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However, they both lead to "Tsimshian", which is an article on the people, not on the language(s). That should be changed.</li> <li>Also… should Dunn's paper really be mentioned? The consonant mergers he assumes are a bit too convenient to be convincing, the semantic leeway he allows for supposed cognates is very large, he doesn't seem to have understood the PIE laryngeals, vocabulary is more, not less, easily borrowed than morphology, there are thoroughly weird sound correspondences (Dunn calls them "intriguing") between /q/ and /s/ and between /r/ and /l/ and /s/, and so on. <a href="/wiki/User:David_Marjanovi%C4%87" title="User:David Marjanović">David Marjanović</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tsimshianic_languages#c-David_Marjanović-2007-06-03T19:39:00.000Z-My_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-David_Marjanović-2007-06-03T19:39:00.000Z-My_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-David_Marjanović-2007-06-03T19:39:00.000Z-My_edit"></span></li></ul> <p><br/><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Penutgirl-2007-06-05T02:08:00.000Z-My_edit"></span> ====The first paragraph is confusing as to the difference between "Tsimshian" and "Tsimshianic". The Tsimshianic "lects" are spoken by 3 different ethnic groups (even though they have many resemblances in language and culture) and "ethnic Tsimshian" should be reserved for the people who actually call themselves Tsimshian - that is, the speakers of "Coast" and "Southern" Tsimshian. The Nis<u>g</u>a'a (on the Nass River) and Gitksan (in the Upper Skeena area) do not consider themselves Tsimshian. </p><p>I did not suggest an edit, because I am not sure of exactly what group of people is included in the 750 reported speakers. Perhaps the history of this page provides more specific information? </p><p>The various pages on this group of people and languages (and others) should be consolidated to make sure that they do not contradict each other. See also my comments under "Tsimshian mythology". </p><p>I concur with the previous comment about Dunn's paper, which is being given undue prominence given its manifold factual and methodological errors. </p><p><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Penutgirl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Penutgirl (page does not exist)">Penutgirl</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tsimshianic_languages#c-Penutgirl-2007-06-05T02:08:00.000Z-My_edit" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 5 June 2007 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Penutgirl-2007-06-05T02:08:00.000Z-My_edit"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Penutgirl-2007-06-05T02:08:00.000Z-My_edit"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_links_modified" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_links_modified-2018-01-07T22:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_links_modified-2018-01-07T22:11:00.000Z"></span>External links modified<span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_links_modified-2018-01-07T22:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tsimshianic_languages&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: External links modified"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-InternetArchiveBot-2018-01-07T22:11:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span>Hello fellow Wikipedians, </p><p>I have just modified 2 external links on <a href="/wiki/Tsimshianic_languages" title="Tsimshianic languages">Tsimshianic languages</a>. 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The boundaries are also wrong. Someone fix the map." I reverted the edit but does anyone know if this is accurate? <a href="/wiki/User:WhatsImportantToMe" title="User:WhatsImportantToMe">WhatsImportantToMe</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WhatsImportantToMe" title="User talk:WhatsImportantToMe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tsimshianic_languages#c-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z-External_links_modified" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z-External_links_modified"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z-External_links_modified"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-70.77.37.23-2021-08-15T03:40:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"></span>Yes the map is wrong, Nisga'a are on the Nass River near Alaska, Gitxsan along the Skeena River further south/east, so they are backwards. I don't know about the boundaries, they were and are surely fuzzy anyway.<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.77.37.23" title="Special:Contributions/70.77.37.23">70.77.37.23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:70.77.37.23" title="User talk:70.77.37.23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tsimshianic_languages#c-70.77.37.23-2021-08-15T03:40:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:40, 15 August 2021 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-70.77.37.23-2021-08-15T03:40:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-70.77.37.23-2021-08-15T03:40:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-69.176.180.73-2022-04-14T21:34:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"></span>yes, the nisga'a and gitxsan territories are mixed up on that map <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/69.176.180.73" title="Special:Contributions/69.176.180.73">69.176.180.73</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:69.176.180.73&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:69.176.180.73 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tsimshianic_languages#c-69.176.180.73-2022-04-14T21:34:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 14 April 2022 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-69.176.180.73-2022-04-14T21:34:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-69.176.180.73-2022-04-14T21:34:00.000Z-WhatsImportantToMe-2021-05-17T02:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; 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