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vector-toc-toggle"> Toggle July music subsection </button> <ul id="toc-July_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-August_music" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#August_music"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 19.1 August music </div> </a> <ul id="toc-August_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Gwen?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Gwen?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 20 Gwen? </div> </a> 6 comments <ul id="toc-Gwen?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 21 third-highest office of the Church of England </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England-sublist" 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class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-September_music" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#September_music"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 25 September music </div> </a> 29 comments <ul id="toc-September_music-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 26 There is no requirement for a source to say an album has now been released </div> </a> 6 comments <ul id="toc-There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-You_never_know..." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#You_never_know..."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 27 You never know... </div> </a> 4 comments <ul id="toc-You_never_know...-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Sérgio_Mendes" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Sérgio_Mendes"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 28 Sérgio Mendes </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-Sérgio_Mendes-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Herbie_Flowers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Herbie_Flowers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 29 Herbie Flowers </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-Herbie_Flowers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Huw_Edwards" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Huw_Edwards"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 30 Huw Edwards </div> </a> 11 comments <ul id="toc-Huw_Edwards-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-September_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#September_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 31 September 2024 </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-September_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-John" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#John"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 32 John </div> </a> 9 comments <button aria-controls="toc-John-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> Toggle John subsection </button> <ul id="toc-John-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-Another_John" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Another_John"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 32.1 Another John </div> </a> <ul id="toc-Another_John-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 33 ITN recognition for Herbie Flowers </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Herbie_Flowers_2" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Herbie_Flowers_2"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 34 Herbie Flowers </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-Herbie_Flowers_2-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 35 Malcolm John Rebennack, Jr. </div> </a> 1 comment <ul id="toc-Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr.-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Benny_Golson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Benny_Golson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 36 Benny Golson </div> </a> 10 comments <ul id="toc-Benny_Golson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 37 ITN recognition for Benny Golson </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Repair_Shop" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Repair_Shop"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 38 Repair Shop </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-Repair_Shop-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...."> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 39 Also, it takes much longer to get up North, the slow way.... </div> </a> 35 comments <ul id="toc-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way....-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Dee_Palmer" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Dee_Palmer"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 40 Dee Palmer </div> </a> 10 comments <ul id="toc-Dee_Palmer-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-an_ignorant_question-_apologies" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#an_ignorant_question-_apologies"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 41 an ignorant question- apologies </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-an_ignorant_question-_apologies-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-October_2024" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#October_2024"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 42 October 2024 </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-October_2024-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 43 ITN recognition for Leif Segerstam </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-a_request" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#a_request"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 44 a request </div> </a> 10 comments <ul id="toc-a_request-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 45 Disambiguation link notification for October 18 </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 46 ITN recognition for Janet Nelson </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Thank_You!!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Thank_You!!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 47 Thank You!! </div> </a> 4 comments <ul id="toc-Thank_You!!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-"Time_to_Say_Goodbye"" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#"Time_to_Say_Goodbye""> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 48 "Time to Say Goodbye" </div> </a> 1 comment <ul id="toc-"Time_to_Say_Goodbye"-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-John_Thomas_Straffen" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#John_Thomas_Straffen"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 49 John Thomas Straffen </div> </a> 6 comments <ul id="toc-John_Thomas_Straffen-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#A_barnstar_for_you!"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 50 A barnstar for you! </div> </a> 2 comments <ul id="toc-A_barnstar_for_you!-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 51 Invitation to participate in a research </div> </a> 11 comments <button aria-controls="toc-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-sublist" class="cdx-button cdx-button--weight-quiet cdx-button--icon-only vector-toc-toggle"> Toggle Invitation to participate in a research subsection </button> <ul id="toc-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> <li id="toc-And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-2"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 51.1 And while we're here... 75 million voters? really? </div> </a> <ul id="toc-And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-Aladdin" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#Aladdin"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 52 Aladdin </div> </a> 3 comments <ul id="toc-Aladdin-sublist" class="vector-toc-list"> </ul> </li> <li id="toc-TopPop" class="vector-toc-list-item vector-toc-level-1"> <a class="vector-toc-link" href="#TopPop"> <div class="vector-toc-text"> 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.templatequotecite{padding-left:1.6em}}</style><blockquote class="templatequote">Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialogue, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.</blockquote> Martin, As you archive so regularly (unlike some editors ...) I thought that this would a) Brighten up your page, and b) Add a serious tone amidst all the hilarity. All the best to you and yours – – <a href="/wiki/User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User:Gareth Griffith-Jones">Gareth Griffith-Jones</a> |<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones">The Welsh Buzzard</a>| <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-12-24T11:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you. A lovely picture. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-2012-12-26T23:03:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-12-24T11:08:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I have made a little <a href="/wiki/Resurrection_of_Christ_(Raphael)" title="Resurrection of Christ (Raphael)">seasonal update</a> - hope you don't mind! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-2013-03-31T09:02:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2012-12-26T23:03:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not at all. The snow has almost vanished. A <a href="/wiki/Christian" class="mw-redirect" title="Christian">Christian</a> <a href="/wiki/Feast" class="mw-redirect" title="Feast">feast</a> <a href="/wiki/Observational_astronomy" title="Observational astronomy">commemorating</a> the <a href="/wiki/Resurrection" title="Resurrection">resurrection</a> of <a href="/wiki/Christ" class="mw-redirect" title="Christ">Christ</a>; the first <a href="/wiki/Sunday" title="Sunday">Sunday</a> following the <a href="/wiki/Full_moon" title="Full moon">full moon</a> that occurs on or next after the <a href="/wiki/Vernal_equinox" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Vernal equinox">vernal equinox</a>, neither earlier than March 22 nor later than April 25. I hate this BST ... why can't we stick with good old GMT? (... it follows the sun after all) Cheers! — <a href="/wiki/User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User:Gareth Griffith-Jones">Gareth Griffith-Jones</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones"> – The Welsh</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="Special:Contributions/Gareth Griffith-Jones">Buzzard</a> – <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2013-03-31T10:27:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2013-03-31T09:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li>A brand of <a href="/wiki/Choc_ice" title="Choc ice">choc ice</a> manufactured by the British <a href="/wiki/Wall%27s_ice_cream" class="mw-redirect" title="Wall's ice cream">Wall's ice cream</a></li> <li>the act of <a href="/wiki/Eating" title="Eating">eating</a></li></ul> <dl><dd>now, I ask you, what kind of alphabetical (or significance) order is that?!!</dd> <dd>Yours, aye <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVYXWVs0Prc">John Lemon</a> <dl><dd>Have always loved that record. Good compilation of photographs ... who is the geezer in the middle — at 1 min 32 secs? – – <a href="/wiki/User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User:Gareth Griffith-Jones">Gareth Griffith-Jones</a> |<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones">The Welsh Buzzard</a>| <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2013-03-31T20:28:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2013-03-31T10:27:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>For some reason, he always reminded me of <a href="/wiki/Ed_Sullivan" title="Ed Sullivan">Nixon</a>! <dl><dd>Oh! Of course. I knew that really – – <a href="/wiki/User:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User:Gareth Griffith-Jones">Gareth Griffith-Jones</a> |<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gareth_Griffith-Jones" title="User talk:Gareth Griffith-Jones">The Welsh Buzzard</a>| <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2013-03-31T20:47:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2013-03-31T20:28:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1251242444">.mw-parser-output .ambox{border:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-left:10px solid #36c;background-color:#fbfbfb;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+style+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+link+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+style+.ambox,.mw-parser-output .ambox+.mw-empty-elt+link+link+.ambox{margin-top:-1px}html body.mediawiki .mw-parser-output .ambox.mbox-small-left{margin:4px 1em 4px 0;overflow:hidden;width:238px;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:88%;line-height:1.25em}.mw-parser-output .ambox-speedy{border-left:10px solid #b32424;background-color:#fee7e6}.mw-parser-output .ambox-delete{border-left:10px solid #b32424}.mw-parser-output .ambox-content{border-left:10px solid #f28500}.mw-parser-output .ambox-style{border-left:10px solid #fc3}.mw-parser-output .ambox-move{border-left:10px solid #9932cc}.mw-parser-output .ambox-protection{border-left:10px solid #a2a9b1}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-text{border:none;padding:0.25em 0.5em;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-image{border:none;padding:2px 0 2px 0.5em;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-imageright{border:none;padding:2px 0.5em 2px 0;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-empty-cell{border:none;padding:0;width:1px}.mw-parser-output .ambox .mbox-image-div{width:52px}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .ambox{margin:0 10%}}@media print{body.ns-0 .mw-parser-output .ambox{display:none!important}}</style><table class="plainlinks metadata ambox ambox-notice" role="presentation" style="text-align:center;"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><div class="mbox-image-div"><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg/175px-France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg" decoding="async" width="175" height="131" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg/263px-France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg/350px-France-Noirmoutier-Sel_brut.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2048" data-file-height="1536"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure></div></td><td class="mbox-text"><div class="mbox-text-span">Here's a large <a href="/wiki/Jonnikin_and_the_Flying_Basket:_French_Folk_and_Fairy_Tales" class="mw-redirect" title="Jonnikin and the Flying Basket: French Folk and Fairy Tales">French basket</a> of tasty <a href="/wiki/Strategic_Arms_Limitation_Talks" title="Strategic Arms Limitation Talks">salt</a>. Please take a large <a href="/wiki/Pinch_(plasma_physics)" title="Pinch (plasma physics)">pinch</a> while appraising any of my edits but an <a href="/wiki/Obesity_in_France" title="Obesity in France">even larger</a> <a href="/wiki/Pinch_(drummer)" class="mw-redirect" title="Pinch (drummer)">one</a> before reading any of my <a href="/wiki/Summary_execution" title="Summary execution">edit summaries</a>. "<a href="/wiki/Bon_Appetit_(album)" title="Bon Appetit (album)">Bon Appétit!</a>" ... 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class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> RIP <a href="/wiki/Mike_Pinder" title="Mike Pinder">Mike Pinder</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUFFRd27YDw">Now gone</a>. The days before <a href="/wiki/Ray_Thomas" title="Ray Thomas">Ray Thomas</a> looked like an Italian waiter on acid. Some very groovy dancing going on here. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240501163400-Michael_Thomas_Pinder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx9NE32jrrY">"The Best Way to Travel"</a> - from <a href="/wiki/Colour_Me_Pop" title="Colour Me Pop">Colour Me Pop</a> (14 September 1968). <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240501213600-Martinevans123-20240501163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>... and RIP <a href="/wiki/Duane_Eddy" title="Duane Eddy">Duane Eddy</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296wS9ome4M">Peter Gunn</a> (saxophone: <a href="/wiki/Steve_Douglas_(musician)" title="Steve Douglas (musician)">Steve Douglas</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240501215500-Martinevans123-20240501163400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wiki_project" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wiki_project-20240502191600">Wiki project</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Wiki project">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> @<a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a>:, Would you be interested in joining <a href="/wiki/Draft:WikiProject_food_and_drink_industry_in_England" title="Draft:WikiProject food and drink industry in England">Draft:WikiProject food and drink industry in England</a><a href="/wiki/User:ChefBear01" title="User:ChefBear01">ChefBear01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChefBear01" title="User talk:ChefBear01">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ChefBear01-20240502191600-Wiki_project" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Is there any <a href="/wiki/Wine_for_the_Confused" title="Wine for the Confused">free wine</a> involved? <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpdFEQ-983s">[1]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240502200500-ChefBear01-20240502191600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>For a second I thought that said Cheese. --<a href="/wiki/User:ARoseWolf" title="User:ARoseWolf">ARose</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARoseWolf" title="User talk:ARoseWolf">Wolf</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ARoseWolf-20240502200700-Martinevans123-20240502200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>In fact yes, it's <a href="/wiki/John_Cleese" title="John Cleese">John Cheese</a>. (... just put me down for a small <a href="/wiki/Stinking_Bishop_(cheese)" title="Stinking Bishop (cheese)">Stinking Bishop</a>, would you) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240502201200-ARoseWolf-20240502200700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Don't forget the <a href="/wiki/Cracker_(band)" title="Cracker (band)"> crackers</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:ARoseWolf" title="User:ARoseWolf">ARose</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARoseWolf" title="User talk:ARoseWolf">Wolf</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ARoseWolf-20240502201900-Martinevans123-20240502201200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Make mine <a href="/wiki/Animal_Crackers_(1930_film)" title="Animal Crackers (1930 film)">non-vegan</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Hives, the butler</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240502202400-ARoseWolf-20240502201900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Goldfish_(cracker)" title="Goldfish (cracker)">Don't tell Tryp</a>. Rainbow is my favorite. --<a href="/wiki/User:ARoseWolf" title="User:ARoseWolf">ARose</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARoseWolf" title="User talk:ARoseWolf">Wolf</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ARoseWolf-20240502202800-Martinevans123-20240502202400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Do they even <a href="/wiki/Rainbow_trout" title="Rainbow trout">fit in the bag</a>?? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240502210800-ARoseWolf-20240502202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd>I promise not to tell. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4kwXcfv7Is">[2]</a>. (But tell me if there is any free booze!) --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240502230600-Martinevans123-20240502210800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:06, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a>:, there are currently 14 related articles with more potentially needed.<a href="/wiki/User:ChefBear01" title="User:ChefBear01">ChefBear01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChefBear01" title="User talk:ChefBear01">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ChefBear01-20240502223000-Martinevans123-20240502210800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 2 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a>:, @<a href="/wiki/User:ARoseWolf" title="User:ARoseWolf">ARoseWolf</a>: @<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a>:, please add your name to the list in <a href="/wiki/Draft:WikiProject_food_and_drink_industry_in_England" title="Draft:WikiProject food and drink industry in England">Draft:WikiProject food and drink industry in England</a> if you are interested.~~ <a href="/wiki/User:ChefBear01" title="User:ChefBear01">ChefBear01</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ChefBear01" title="User talk:ChefBear01">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ChefBear01-20240503200800-ChefBear01-20240502223000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you, ChefBear01, for your very kind invitation. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240503204100-ChefBear01-20240503200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:ChefBear01" title="User:ChefBear01">ChefBear01</a>, thank you for the invitation. I'm afraid I would be of little use to a wikiproject about food and drink in England. About the only English food I know is fish and chips because we also have that in Alaska. Well, we have pubs here too. --<a href="/wiki/User:ARoseWolf" title="User:ARoseWolf">ARose</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:ARoseWolf" title="User talk:ARoseWolf">Wolf</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-ARoseWolf-20240504190800-ChefBear01-20240503200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not forgetting our great British <a href="/wiki/Baked_Alaska" title="Baked Alaska">baking</a>... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240504191200-ARoseWolf-20240504190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 4 May 2024 (UTC)</a> And Chefbear, I do need to declare a <a href="/wiki/Welsh_cake" title="Welsh cake">national bias</a> here.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Perhaps you are biased about <a href="/wiki/Welsh_Rarebit_(radio_programme)" title="Welsh Rarebit (radio programme)">rabbits</a>, as well? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240504221600-Martinevans123-20240504191200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, boyo. And for Crimbo, we all love a <a href="/wiki/Mari_Lwyd" title="Mari Lwyd">horse's head on a pole</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240505083700-Tryptofish-20240504221600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:37, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Who you callin' <a href="/wiki/Yo-yo" title="Yo-yo">boyo</a>? And did you just call Jimbo a criminal? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240506002500-Martinevans123-20240505083700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'd recommend <a href="/wiki/Billy_Boyo" title="Billy Boyo">"One Spliff a Day"</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240506211700-Tryptofish-20240506002500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clyXBlYOHGQ">[3]</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/An_apple_a_day_keeps_the_doctor_away" title="An apple a day keeps the doctor away">Yes, and cheers to food and drink!</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240506212500-Martinevans123-20240506211700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:25, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a> [<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Of course, nothing wrong with the small variety. Don't want to appear <a href="/wiki/Little_Green_Apples" title="Little Green Apples">sizeist</a>! <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IH2s0OYY3E">[4]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240507180700-Tryptofish-20240506212500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fictitious_Welsh_pub_in_Northumberland" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fictitious_Welsh_pub_in_Northumberland-20240503104900">Fictitious Welsh pub in Northumberland</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Fictitious Welsh pub in Northumberland">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi Martin! I am not sure why, but I thought that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Red_King_(TV_series)&diff=prev&oldid=1221948861">this</a> might amuse you. Cheers <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503104900-Fictitious_Welsh_pub_in_Northumberland" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, St Jory. I know it well! Often have a few days away there, and often pop into the old "<a href="/wiki/John_Barleycorn_Must_Die" title="John Barleycorn Must Die">Barleycorn</a>" for a few jars! Safe bruh! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240503105700-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503104900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I do hope that you have not been involved in any dodgy goings-on, assisting Scottish policemen into large wicker figures, and the like. One can take these local citizenship initiatives a little too far … <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503141900-Martinevans123-20240503105700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>"This is a local pub, for <a href="/wiki/The_League_of_Gentlemen" title="The League of Gentlemen">local people!"</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240503142300-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503141900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a> (... local honey also <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCrmXW6-Pk">available</a>)[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Nasty!!!! I'm off for a little nap now till I feel better. <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503210900-Martinevans123-20240503142300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Let's face it, DBaK, you've got what it takes, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCyURhlNae0">baby!</a> Mmmmmmmm, swingin'. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240505171200-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240503210900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a> ... what a truly, truly wonderful record that is.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Great track! <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240505222600-Martinevans123-20240505171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Baby_(You%27ve_Got_What_It_Takes)" title="Baby (You've Got What It Takes)">Recorded</a> in the same session as <a href="/wiki/A_Rockin%27_Good_Way_(to_Mess_Around_and_Fall_in_Love)" title="A Rockin' Good Way (to Mess Around and Fall in Love)">that one</a>, which is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX1VBMoS98I">almost as good</a>. **kiss-kiss** lol <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240506214400-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240505222600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a> "Benton's beautifully poised melodic weaving is the perfect compliment to Washington's sassy and punchy delivery. The playful strings and toe-tapping rhythm section keep the whole thing moving in a gentle rock-a-bye groove!!"[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Martin_Brennan_(character)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Martin_Brennan_(character)-20240505181900"><a href="/wiki/Martin_Brennan_(character)" title="Martin Brennan (character)">Martin Brennan (character)</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Martin Brennan (character)">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Gobshite's article is now live. Thanks for the copyedits yesterday. <a href="/wiki/User:Ceoil" title="User:Ceoil">Ceoil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ceoil" title="User talk:Ceoil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ceoil-20240505181900-Martin_Brennan_(character)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Didn't realise there were <a href="/wiki/Martin_Brennan" class="mw-disambig" title="Martin Brennan">so many</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240505190100-Ceoil-20240505181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If you ask me there are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AFD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AFD">too many</a>. He is surely the primary topic - both a farmer "and" singer, with connections in Kildare.<a href="/wiki/User:Ceoil" title="User:Ceoil">Ceoil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ceoil" title="User talk:Ceoil">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ceoil-20240505191100-Martinevans123-20240505190100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="May_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-May_music-20240507211800">May music</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: May music">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1126788409">.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul{line-height:inherit;list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0}.mw-parser-output .plainlist ol li,.mw-parser-output .plainlist ul li{margin-bottom:0}</style><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1257001546">.mw-parser-output .infobox-subbox{padding:0;border:none;margin:-3px;width:auto;min-width:100%;font-size:100%;clear:none;float:none;background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .infobox-3cols-child{margin:auto}.mw-parser-output .infobox .navbar{font-size:100%}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme)>div:not(.notheme)[style]{background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .infobox-full-data:not(.notheme) div:not(.notheme){background:#1f1f23!important;color:#f8f9fa}}@media(min-width:640px){body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table{display:table!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>caption{display:table-caption!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table>tbody{display:table-row-group}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table tr{display:table-row!important}body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table th,body.skin--responsive .mw-parser-output .infobox-table td{padding-left:inherit;padding-right:inherit}}</style><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Hawthorn_in_bloom,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/290px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="217" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/435px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/580px-Hawthorn_in_bloom%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3878" data-file-height="2908"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#25_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> On the bicentenary of Beethoven's <a href="/wiki/Symphony_No._9_(Beethoven)" title="Symphony No. 9 (Beethoven)">Ninth Symphony</a>, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#5_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">in my concerts</a> (leading to the two at the church's article). The closest was <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/lokales/kreis-rheingau-taunus/idstein-kreis-rheingau-taunus/himmelfahrtsoratorium-in-der-katholischen-kirche-st-martin-3546272">in the paper</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240507211800-May_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#9_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today</a> is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzbOSm_xj8w">watch a bit</a> how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240509215700-May_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/Magdalena_Hinterdobler" title="Magdalena Hinterdobler">Magdalena Hinterdobler</a> is on the Main page <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#10_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">today</a>, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV4Zh41HgpE&t=344s">listen and see</a>. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240510102900-May_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240514150200-May_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:02, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Amazing. That ceramic cat looks real to me! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240514150900-Gerda_Arendt-20240514150200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>real: <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#15_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">yesterday's story</a> remembered an oratorio world premiere I was in, conducted by the composer --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240516131500-Martinevans123-20240514150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I heard <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#17_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">lovely chamber music today</a>, and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#17_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">the DYK</a> mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240517222300-Martinevans123-20240514150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I liked seeing <a href="/wiki/Erschallet,_ihr_Lieder" class="mw-redirect" title="Erschallet, ihr Lieder">Erschallet, ihr Lieder</a> on the Main page today, 310 years after the first performance! We sang it in 2000. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#20_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">Today's program</a> was easier but also spirited. I <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">found a nice video</a> of "I will sing with the spirit", with nature photography, - enjoy. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240520213300-Martinevans123-20240514150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#22_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. - There's a cute yt of a family concert in the singer's article. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240522150000-Martinevans123-20240514150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today's story about <a href="/wiki/Willi_Brokmeier" title="Willi Brokmeier">Willi Brokmeier</a> still needs support for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">RD</a>, - don't miss 1972 video ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240525125500-Martinevans123-20240514150900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I see he's now made it there. There's a video?? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240525204200-Gerda_Arendt-20240525125500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>in my story - almost always this year, btw --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240525220900-Martinevans123-20240525204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>(now it is, sorry) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240525221200-Martinevans123-20240525204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sorry for intruting. I clicked on your page by accident and noticed we have the same birthday :). Don't know why I felt to share that, hah. I guess the coincidence struck me. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.120.7" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.120.7">95.168.120.7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.120.7" title="User talk:95.168.120.7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.120.7-20240525223000-Gerda_Arendt-20240525221200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Shame you don't have a User page, or an account. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526072800-95.168.120.7-20240525223000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#26_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is my little contribution to Trinity Sunday, with a church named after the Trinity (which I'd have liked to see pictured, and what would be a good description of that kind of facade? "splendid" was reverted as not neutral) and a cantata Bach conducted 300 years ago for the occasion (having composed it 9 years earlier). --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240526194600-Martinevans123-20240525204200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well, it looks quite splendid to me. As a child I had always thought the words for "<a href="/wiki/Holy,_Holy,_Holy!_Lord_God_Almighty" title="Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty">Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty</a>" were "God in three parsons"! It's not about this <a href="/wiki/Emerson,_Lake_and_Palmer" class="mw-redirect" title="Emerson, Lake and Palmer">Holy Trinity</a>, is it ... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526195700-Gerda_Arendt-20240526194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you. Contrast: 29 May 1913: <a href="/wiki/The_Rite_of_Spring" title="The Rite of Spring">The Rite of Spring</a> - <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#29_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">today's story</a>, actually something I saw at that place in a revival, literally "down to earth". - Do you remember <a href="/wiki/Talk:The_Rite_of_Spring/Archive_3" title="Talk:The Rite of Spring/Archive 3">the infobox discussion</a> 100 years after the premiere, often mentioned in the arbcase? - Today a user who returned after several years <a href="/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Haydn" title="Talk:Joseph Haydn">said that nothing changed</a>. Would you agree? I wouldn't ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240529104200-Martinevans123-20240526195700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What a very bizarre suggestion at Joseph Haydn! It might have taken me seven or eight years to dream up that one... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240529104600-Gerda_Arendt-20240529104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I think it's a great satire ;) - <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#30_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about <a href="/wiki/Samuel_Kummer" title="Samuel Kummer">Samuel Kummer</a>, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240530230900-Martinevans123-20240529104600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240531190800-Martinevans123-20240529104600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240601080600-Gerda_Arendt-20240531190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reply_about_blocking_policy" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reply_about_blocking_policy-20240510113300">Reply about blocking policy</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Reply about blocking policy">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi Martin, in reply to <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1223163401">this comment</a>: the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BE">blocking policy</a> is that obviously helpful changes should stand, but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert. In cleaning up, I left improvements such as updates to which mayor had been elected, grammar, etc. This is a pretty clear-cut instance, in my view, where the presumption should be to revert the sock. <a href="/wiki/User:Cambial_Yellowing" title="User:Cambial Yellowing">Cambial </a>— <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cambial_Yellowing" title="User talk:Cambial Yellowing">foliar❧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Cambial_Yellowing-20240510113300-Reply_about_blocking_policy" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I see. Perhaps there was lots of ambiguity. I had no idea there were changes "to which mayor had been elected." But I'm not sure, anyway, how I would judge whether the sock's changes were "obviously helpful". Some seemed biased, but others were just factual, even if UNDUE. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240510113900-Cambial_Yellowing-20240510113300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>You were replying to DeFacto at that Talk page, or to both of us? I'd say your efforts to show very clearly at the talk page, what had been added by the sockpuppet, were laudable. But I can appreciate DeFacto's frustration when another editor arrives and dumps out what has taken some considerable effort to agree on, albeit unwittingly involving a sockpuppet. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240510121100-Cambial_Yellowing-20240510113300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>My reply at article talk was to DF; my reply to you is here because your comment referred to non-content policy. <a href="/wiki/User:Cambial_Yellowing" title="User:Cambial Yellowing">Cambial </a>— <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cambial_Yellowing" title="User talk:Cambial Yellowing">foliar❧</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Cambial_Yellowing-20240510125400-Martinevans123-20240510121100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for explaining. Content and non-content are kinda interlinked, aren't they. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240510125800-Cambial_Yellowing-20240510125400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_have_been_gifted_The_Fundamental_Wikipedian!" data-mw-thread-id="h-You_have_been_gifted_The_Fundamental_Wikipedian!-20240511090300">You have been gifted The Fundamental Wikipedian!</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: You have been gifted The Fundamental Wikipedian!">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="width:100%; height:100%; border:4px ridge #e8fdff; background-color:#e8fdff; text-align:justify; padding:1px;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="width:25%;"><a href="/wiki/File:The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="The Fundamental Wikipedian" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png/250px-The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png" decoding="async" width="250" height="206" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png/375px-The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png/500px-The_Fundamental_Wikipedian.png 2x" data-file-width="3943" data-file-height="3250"/></a> </td> <td><div style="margin-bottom:15px;background-color:white;border-style:ridge;border-width:2px;border-color:#e8fdff;text-align:justify;"><div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User:4theloveofallthings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:4theloveofallthings (page does not exist)">4theloveofallthings</a> has gifted you The Fundamental Wikipedian!</div>Copies of The Fundamental Wikipedian promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Gifting of TFW indicates the gifter would like to express apology regarding a recent dispute with you in which they were ultimately incorrect. Explanation:Burial date parameter</div> <div class="center" style="width:auto; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto;"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLove" title="Wikipedia:WikiLove">What is WikiLove?</a></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> Want to extend the kind gesture of The Fundamental Wikipedian? Just add {{<a href="/wiki/Template:Fundamental_Wikipedian" title="Template:Fundamental Wikipedian">subst:Fundamental Wikipedian</a>}} to a user's talk page! <dl><dd>Thank you so much, <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:4theloveofallthings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:4theloveofallthings (page does not exist)">4theloveofallthings</a>. I may just <a href="/wiki/Bury_the_Hatchet_(album)" title="Bury the Hatchet (album)">bury</a> this copy. But if I do, I won't tell which day I did it. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240511090300-You_have_been_gifted_The_Fundamental_Wikipedian!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>LOL <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:4theloveofallthings&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:4theloveofallthings (page does not exist)">4theloveofallthings</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:4theloveofallthings" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:4theloveofallthings">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-4theloveofallthings-20240511123300-Martinevans123-20240511090300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="See_WP:BLPN#Emma_D'Arcy_-_is_the_edit_summary_a_violation_of_BLP?" data-mw-thread-id="h-See_WP:BLPN#Emma_D'Arcy_-_is_the_edit_summary_a_violation_of_BLP?-20240512082700">See <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLPN#Emma_D'Arcy_-_is_the_edit_summary_a_violation_of_BLP?" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLPN">WP:BLPN#Emma D'Arcy - is the edit summary a violation of BLP?</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: See WP:BLPN#Emma D'Arcy - is the edit summary a violation of BLP?">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I think this may be a NOTHERE editor. <a href="/wiki/User:Doug_Weller" title="User:Doug Weller">Doug Weller</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Doug_Weller" title="User talk:Doug Weller">talk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Doug_Weller-20240512082700-See_WP:BLPN#Emma_D'Arcy_-_is_the_edit_summary_a_violation_of_BLP?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, that looks very likely, given the Nazi-like edit summaries and the "UNIVERSAL TRUTH" on their User page. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240512085100-Doug_Weller-20240512082700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Celebrating_14_glorious_years" data-mw-thread-id="h-Celebrating_14_glorious_years">Celebrating 14 glorious years</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Celebrating 14 glorious years">edit</a>]</div> Those tear-jerking highlights in full..... <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gz6mZYxS0A">"Thanks for all voting "No" to BREXIT", 4 June 2016</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UI9XcQ0jFc">Fields of Wheat, 7 June 2019</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://x.com/snb19692/status/1544998211630383104">"Get Tories Done", 7 July 2022</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDfoPBh-ywI">Salad Days, 20 October 2022</a></li> <li><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26znyUk12xM">"The Long Hot Summer....", 22 May 2024</a></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sh!tshow_at_Tesla_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sh!tshow_at_Tesla_page-20240525110500">Sh!tshow at Tesla page</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Sh!tshow at Tesla page">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> A whole pattern <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:95.168.118.16#Sh!tshow_at_Tesla_page">[5]</a> of bad behavior from numerous admins portrays a picture of how bad faith behavior from admins is covered up by other admins in the same manner the police is "protecting their own". Several admins are disrupting that page for years. The whole chronological order is nearly impossible to reconstruct because of their disruption. Impossible to imagine, but for years this is being discussed... <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity#Military_Border_Legal_Status">[6]</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.118.16" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.118.16">95.168.118.16</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.118.16" title="User talk:95.168.118.16">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.118.16-20240525110500-Sh!tshow_at_Tesla_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>You seem keen to <a href="/wiki/Manure_spreader" title="Manure spreader">spread this particular sh!tshow</a> far and wide. Good job that article's not on my watchlist anymore. Good luck with the <a href="/wiki/Gang_of_Four" title="Gang of Four">coup</a>, but count me out, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240525111000-95.168.118.16-20240525110500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>That's funny 😁 . Nah, it's a mini coup, I just noticed it by accident. I don't actually have anything against them, they spent half their day on Wikipedia doing admin stuff, I come once or twice a year. They deserve to to have it a little their way now and then. Although, they do act like their above others, full of objectivity and integrity. I'm just letting them know that it's not unnoticed. I also left Tesla article a long time ago, but every so often I come to see what's happening. It's a total mess there. Those 3 have been arguing for years about one sentence in the article , and they actually agree about everything. Stupid beond comprehension.</dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Let me ask you something unrelated. On your page you wrote that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a crime against humanity and it should be prosecuted. Could you elaborate? Because, you know, war is not a crime in international law. I can tell you how the international law labeled the wars in former Yugoslavia. Basically, all warring is ok as long as no crimes are done, and that's it. So, who do you think should be prosecuted? <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.107.6" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.107.6">95.168.107.6</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:95.168.107.6&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:95.168.107.6 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.107.6-20240525210300-Martinevans123-20240525111000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>In my mind the distinction between war and crime in a very blurred one, in any case. The idea that two teams of professional soldiers can simply line up against each other on the "battlefield" and fight it out, in a manly way, face to face, without any civilian collateral damage, is a very old-fashioned and outdated one. The medieval-minded Putin has shown that he has no regard whatsoever for the protection of civilian life. His soldiers have committed countless war crimes and atrocities. His invasion of Ukraine, and his continued bomb, missile and drone attack on the Ukrainian people and infrastructure, has no legitimate justification and is predicated on lies and nationalistic fantasy. Since March 2023 Putin has had an arrest warrant issued against him. The <a href="/wiki/International_Criminal_Court" title="International Criminal Court">International Criminal Court</a> says this: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and#:~:text=Mr%20Vladimir%20Vladimirovich%20Putin%2C%20born,articles%208(2)(a">"Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute).</a>" This afternoon he performed an aerial bombardment of a supermarket in Kharkiv: <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/05/25/russia-hits-kharkiv-supermarket-in-deadly-attack">[7]</a>. You talk about a "shitshow"?? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240525213000-95.168.107.6-20240525210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'm telling you, courts in former Yugoslavia and international courts deal with it constantly. About two armies fighting aways from civilians. This wasn't the case in modern warfare. US's policy is to do everything that's possible to minimize civilian cazualites, if I'm correct, not to avoid them. Unfortuately, it's not possible to wage a war without civilan cazualties. Now that Russia has taken over the territory, if Ukraine is to liberate with a military action, cazualities will happen. What would be your opinon in that case, because , I'll tell you right now. Someone in Russia will say that Ukraine is starting an unlawful war and pretty much the same as you are saying now. We don't even have to imagine. I think the same thing happened in Croatia. Serb forces took over territory and Croatia started a military action to liberate the land in 1995. Crimes had happened, a lot of civilians left their homes and today in Serbia they are calling that Military action a war crime...Will Ukraine's military action be a war crime if it happens. Because, be sure that civilians will get hurt if Russia will defend the cities. I completely agree about Putin, that Russia's to blame here...I'm just sorry the law won't see it that way, at least hasn't in former Yugoslavia. Don't expect anyone to be prosecuted because of waging war, and most cazualites are because of the war, not war crimes. Not only civilians, I'm counting soldiers , and not only the dead one's, but injured, or the ones that will end up with PTSP and their families. Unfortunately, for all that there is no law that will prosecute Putin and if his only "mistake" in the law sense is that deportation of children (and I really doubt that they would prosecute him over that, he would return the children and they would say, yeah, that's all we wanted with that charge and would just withdraw it). It doesn't feel right by me...Don't believe the courts and the law, nothing will get solved. To be frank, I'm not the one who thinks "people are good but politics makes bad decisions". I'm far more bothered when I see an old lady on TV supporting the war than Putin. I know, starting this topic, the "sh!tshow" seems so...I don't know the word, pointles. Cheers. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.120.7" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.120.7">95.168.120.7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.120.7" title="User talk:95.168.120.7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.120.7-20240525220700-Martinevans123-20240525213000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240526-death-toll-rises-russian-air-strike-on-crowded-diy-store-in-ukraine-kharkiv-volodymyr-zelensky-vladimir-putin">12 dead in a crowded DIY hardware store in Kharkiv</a> I'm pretty sure Zelenskyy isn't planning to invade Russia. He's just asking for more air defences. Putin belongs in prison. Thanks for sharing your views. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526072200-95.168.120.7-20240525220700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah I saw. Terrible. What's worst is that people somehow get used to it...as it's just another day in Ukraine. You know, Putin if he had won (or if he wins), he would be hailed as a great leader and so on...I don't know if you are famliar with this channel <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/c/1420channel/videos">[8]</a>, but It's sad what some people are saying. What's for them to gain from supporting this war? I'll never understand that. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.116.15" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.116.15">95.168.116.15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.116.15" title="User talk:95.168.116.15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.116.15-20240526204000-Martinevans123-20240526072200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah, hang on, I know, best idea for UK.... let's <a href="/wiki/James_Cleverly" title="James Cleverly">Bring Back National Service!!</a> That'll teach those teenage snowflake millennials! One weekend every month they can help spend those <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-michael-gove-b2423059.html">£350M a week Brexit savings</a>... and help build those <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/25/tory-pledge-to-build-40-new-england-hospitals-likely-to-be-delayed-until-after-2030">40 new hospitals</a>. And learn how to use a machine gun! Errr, but hang on, war... what is it good for? I just <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZJRJpbGkG4">remembered</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526212100-95.168.116.15-20240526204000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Nah, its a mini coup</q>. I think <a href="/wiki/Mini_Coup%C3%A9_and_Roadster" title="Mini Coupé and Roadster">this is one of those</a>. <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Basically, all warring is ok</q> - Possibly the dumbest thing I have seen written on Wikipedia this year. <a href="/wiki/User:Sirfurboy" title="User:Sirfurboy">Sirfurboy🏄</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sirfurboy" title="User talk:Sirfurboy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Sirfurboy-20240526172400-95.168.107.6-20240525210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I know.... let's blame the victim. And then let's blame them some more, for something in the future, that they have no intention of doing. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526181600-Sirfurboy-20240526172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>No one will be prosecuted for warring. No one was ,in all wars in former Yugoslavia. Croatia started prosecuting people for armed rebellion and had to proclaim abolition. Only war crimes are prosecuted. Same at ICTY. Don't think Putin will be prosecuted for warring. I think there's a widespread campaign of targeting civilians, and that maybe will get prosecuted, if the situation changes so he is extradicted to international courts, but seeing how many people in Russia are supporting the war, I'm sceptical. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.116.15" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.116.15">95.168.116.15</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.116.15" title="User talk:95.168.116.15">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.116.15-20240526222100-Sirfurboy-20240526172400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>This user still believes the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a crime against humanity and should be prosecuted. If this hasn't ever happened before, it's time that international law was changed. But prosecution of Putin for war crimes would also be a welcome outcome, just like <a href="/wiki/Radovan_Karad%C5%BEi%C4%87" title="Radovan Karadžić">Radovan Karadžić</a> and <a href="/wiki/Slobodan_Milo%C5%A1evi%C4%87" title="Slobodan Milošević">Slobodan Milošević</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240527081000-95.168.116.15-20240526222100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>So that's your third IP geolocating to Croatia? I see that your first one got blocked for six months. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240527085200-95.168.116.15-20240526222100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah, they blocked that one from which I posted the report. My edit was disruptive, pinging so many people. I wouldn't do it, but they deleted the ANI report, as if nothing I wrote matters because I'm disruptive. I hope that they talked internally at least and had some introspection. They probably think I'm a sock of that guy that got blocked. They aren't even aware how many people got blocked there. When I was going through all old discussions to compose this list , I was amazed how many people got blocked since then. Even ones with long edit history.</dd> <dd>As for Putin, he should be prosecuted for genocide. I'm not an expert here, but I think there's an intent to take over parts (now that they can't take all) of Ukraine and Russify it by changing identiy by force. Children are indoctrinated. People who oppose get killed or prosecuted. Other's are forced to take Russian citizenship, etc. Same as Milosevic and Karadzic, they were prosecuted for genocide. BDW, it's how Russia got so large...<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/95.168.116.19" title="Special:Contributions/95.168.116.19">95.168.116.19</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:95.168.116.19" title="User talk:95.168.116.19">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-95.168.116.19-20240527094900-Martinevans123-20240527085200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Civilians, including children, are being murdered by Putin, quite regardless of their views. Their views don't come into it. Putin couldn't care less about their views. The orphaned children have been shipped off back to the Motherland, however, to be brought up the <a href="/wiki/Indoctrination" title="Indoctrination">correct Russian way</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240527102700-95.168.116.19-20240527094900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Richard_M._Sherman" data-mw-thread-id="h-Richard_M._Sherman-20240526072600"><a href="/wiki/Richard_M._Sherman" title="Richard M. Sherman">Richard M. Sherman</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Richard M. Sherman">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> RIP Richard Morton Sherman: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokDMNue2Xc">King of the Swingers....</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240526072600-Richard_M._Sherman" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Richard_Thompson" data-mw-thread-id="h-Richard_Thompson-20240601083200"><a href="/wiki/Richard_Thompson_(musician)" title="Richard Thompson (musician)"> Richard Thompson</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Richard Thompson">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Well done, Richard Thompson! Still <a href="/wiki/Ship_to_Shore_(Richard_Thompson_album)" title="Ship to Shore (Richard Thompson album)">thumping it</a> out after 57 years... <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-kcoTAHLQc">"Jealous words, Won’t lie still, In my heart"</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240601083200-Richard_Thompson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a> <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://genius.com/Richard-thompson-jealous-words-lyrics">[9]</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It looks like you added a review to this album's article that is from a source that is not on this list: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Sources" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources">Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources</a>. Could you please remove it and then propose it be added if you think it meets the requirements? ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (koavf)</a>❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Koavf-20240601132300-Martinevans123-20240601083200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for telling me. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://tradfolk.co/music/">Tradfolk</a> looks like a reliable online source. And <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://tradfolk.co/author/gavin-mcnamara/">Gavin McNamara</a> "is an English teacher that loves writing about music. Or a music writer that loves teaching English. Definitely one of those. Over the years he's written for lots of people, from the Big Issue (SW) to Metal Hammer and, before teaching, worked in independent music distribution for too many years." But not sure if he gets paid or not. So I've deleted it. Perhaps that source should be discussed. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240601163000-Koavf-20240601132300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>To be clear, he doesn't have to get paid for it to be a legit source. Please do propose it if you think it should be added and let me know if you do. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (koavf)</a>❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Koavf-20240601195500-Martinevans123-20240601163000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The guideline says "<link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk">Specifically, reviews should be written by professional music journalists or DJs, or found within any online or print publication having a (paid or volunteer) editorial and writing staff (which excludes personal blogs)...</q>" And I'm afraid I have no idea about those things, sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240601200500-Koavf-20240601195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>It says <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://tradfolk.co/about-tradfolk-co/">here</a>, that is has an editor called Jon Wilks who has also been running The Old Songs Podcast. So perhaps it's acceptable? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240602102500-Koavf-20240601195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Could be. I definitely think you should post to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ALBUM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:ALBUM">WT:ALBUM</a>. ―<a href="/wiki/User:Koavf" title="User:Koavf">Justin (koavf)</a>❤<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Koavf" title="User talk:Koavf">T</a>☮<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Koavf" title="Special:Contributions/Koavf">C</a>☺<a href="/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Koavf" title="Special:EmailUser/Koavf">M</a>☯ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Koavf-20240602103200-Martinevans123-20240602102500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/> Done <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240602110800-Koavf-20240602103200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>So it seems there are other rules.... that both the author and the editor must be seen to be "subject mater experts" who have also appeared in other reliable publications. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240602165600-Martinevans123-20240602110800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> A cautionary tale for all you CB-radio truckers.... well perhaps <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSumx-db4wk">not all</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240609172600-Richard_Thompson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Only <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D048yK2yLpE">55 years ago....!</a> <a href="/wiki/Unhalfbricking" title="Unhalfbricking">Richard</a> still sounds as good. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240613171200-Richard_Thompson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="June_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-June_music-20240601121700">June music</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: June music">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Rose_flowers,_Bingen.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg/290px-Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="217" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg/435px-Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg/580px-Rose_flowers%2C_Bingen.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3219" data-file-height="2414"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#22_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#1_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about the TFA, by sadly missed <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vami_IV" title="User talk:Vami IV">Vami_IV</a>. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to <a href="/wiki/Schloss_K%C3%B6then" title="Schloss Köthen">Schloss Köthen</a> next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin <a href="#2024">the year</a>. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#1_June" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">1 June</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240601121700-June_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240602102200-Gerda_Arendt-20240601121700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Enjoy <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#2_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">today's story</a>, related to my topic of the year: 300 years Bach's chorale cantatas, and the first was written for today, - listen to the music. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500-Martinevans123-20240602102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Franz_Kafka" title="Franz Kafka">Franz Kafka</a> died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87#May_music" title="User talk:Graham87">Graham87</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240603154000-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, <a href="/wiki/Peter_Demetz" title="Peter Demetz">Peter Demetz</a>. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it. - I have an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNN">WP:ITNN</a> item needing attention, <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Lang" title="Alexander Lang">Alexander Lang</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240605185800-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Attention was given, enjoy on the Main page, or today's story --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240606100400-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>or new pics of spectacular weather --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240606211500-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#9_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about a tune used by <a href="/wiki/Bach" class="mw-redirect" title="Bach">Bach</a> and <a href="/wiki/Mozart" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozart">Mozart</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240609200200-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#11_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">the word of thunder</a> on top of it, which would have been better on 2 June, this year's first Sunday after Trinity (mentioned earlier in this thread). The new lilypond - thanks to <a href="/wiki/User_talk:DanCherek#June_music" title="User talk:DanCherek">DanCherek</a> - is quite impressive. As <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#2_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my 2 Jun story</a> said: Bach was fired up. - <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_history/2024_June_11" title="Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 June 11">Today's Main page</a> is rich in music, also <a href="/wiki/Franz_Liszt" title="Franz Liszt">Franz Liszt</a> and a conductor. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240611141700-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today is "the day" for <a href="/wiki/James_Joyce" title="James Joyce">James Joyce</a>, also for Bach's <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#16_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">fourth chorale cantata</a> (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240616161000-Gerda_Arendt-20240602213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:10, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>"YES", but the new festival for Molly has been on <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.euronews.com/culture/2024/06/13/celebrating-the-first-ever-molly-bloomsday-what-is-irelands-yes-festival">since Thursday</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240616170600-Gerda_Arendt-20240616161000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>p.s. great to see <a href="/wiki/Toni_Kroos" title="Toni Kroos">Tony Crows</a> back in <a href="/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024" title="UEFA Euro 2024">action</a>!! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240616195200-Martinevans123-20240616170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>foxglove in return - <a href="/wiki/Jodie_Devos" title="Jodie Devos">sad job today</a>, and only started --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240617115100-Martinevans123-20240616195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>... as if I didn't have <a href="/wiki/%C3%89ric_Tappy" title="Éric Tappy">her tenor colleague</a> in the noms, without a comment so far --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240617115400-Martinevans123-20240616195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>New pics of food and flowers come with <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#18_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">the story</a> of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by <a href="/wiki/User:Brianboulton" title="User:Brianboulton">Brian Boulton</a>. As said above, I nominated <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNN#Éric_Tappy" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNN">Éric Tappy</a> because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated <a href="/wiki/Tamara_Milashkina" title="Tamara Milashkina">another women</a> for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240618134000-Martinevans123-20240616195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#24_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today</a> is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that <a href="/wiki/Jodie_Devos" title="Jodie Devos">Jodie Devos</a> had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#22_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">plenty of music</a> sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240624141100-Martinevans123-20240616195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>The image in <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#25_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my DYK story</a> is what I happened to see from my seat in a performance before the festival (with <a href="/wiki/Anna_Netrebko" title="Anna Netrebko">Anna Netrebko</a> in the title role but sold out of course, and the other was possibly the icier Principessa anyway). I recommend the trailer video, with various scenes to the end of the music that Puccini was able to finish before he died in 1924. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240625194900-Martinevans123-20240616195200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thankses" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thankses-20240611213600">Thankses</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Thankses">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Thank you for the thankses! I've never been thanked before :) And thanks to you for all the great work you've been doing over at <a href="/wiki/Michael_Mosley_(broadcaster)" class="mw-redirect" title="Michael Mosley (broadcaster)">Michael Mosley (broadcaster)</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:AlexGallon" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AlexGallon">AlexGallon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AlexGallon" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AlexGallon">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-AlexGallon-20240611213600-Thankses" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Cheers mate. All the best. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240611215700-AlexGallon-20240611213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Hoo_noo?!!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Hoo_noo?!!-20240613171900"><a href="/wiki/Ladbrokes_Coral" title="Ladbrokes Coral">Hoo noo?!!</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Hoo noo?!!">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <figure typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Toast-3.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Toast-3.jpg/240px-Toast-3.jpg" decoding="async" width="240" height="220" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Toast-3.jpg/360px-Toast-3.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Toast-3.jpg/480px-Toast-3.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1991" data-file-height="1822"/></a><figcaption>Post-election Tory Party <a href="/wiki/Crystal_ball" title="Crystal ball">prediction</a>: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJmKStqugMc&t=65s">Toast!</a> </figcaption></figure> Ready for that 4th July Election?? <a href="/wiki/Craig_Williams_(British_politician)" title="Craig Williams (British politician)">You bet!!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240613171900-Hoo_noo?!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>And that exciting <a href="/wiki/Gammon_(insult)" title="Gammon (insult)">Reform UK</a> party political TV broadcast analysis in full: <ul><li>2 of the 6 words were single syllable.</li> <li>Great use of full stops.</li> <li>I thought the telly was broken.</li> <li>It almost picked up in the last 3 seconds.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240614180600-Martinevans123-20240613171900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)</a> (iPlayer's gonna be extra busy)[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Rudeness" data-mw-thread-id="h-Rudeness-20240617111200">Rudeness</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Rudeness">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> If I remove something from my talk page, it is extraordinarily discourteous to put it back. If you want to leave any more messages, they had better start with an apology. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/57.133.22.170" title="Special:Contributions/57.133.22.170">57.133.22.170</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:57.133.22.170" title="User talk:57.133.22.170">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-57.133.22.170-20240617111200-Rudeness" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <ul><li><dl><dd>Per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>, I have made two reverts within the last 24 hours. You have now made three removals. It seems that you have previously edited <a href="/wiki/Neil_Parish" title="Neil Parish">Neil Parish</a> using a different IP address. Is that correct? You don't consider any of your edit summaries to be "rude"? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240617111500-57.133.22.170-20240617111200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></li></ul> <dl><dd>Looking at the edit history at <a href="/wiki/Neil_Parish" title="Neil Parish">Neil Parish</a>, over the past 11 days, we seem to have a number of similar edits from three different anon IP addresses: <ul><li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neil_Parish&diff=next&oldid=1226152801">This</a> by 89.207.171.135, "geolocating" to Ile-de-France in France,</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neil_Parish&diff=next&oldid=1227627136">This and subsequent</a>, by 57.133.22.170, "geolocating" to Lombardia in Italy, and</li> <li><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Neil_Parish&diff=prev&oldid=1227947102">This</a>, by 5.22.238.33, "geolocating" to Arendal in Norway, and now blocked for 6 months as {blocked proxy}.</li></ul></dd> <dd>What a strange set of coincidences? Or a European jet-setter perhaps? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240617153200-57.133.22.170-20240617111200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Compare_the_Meerkat" data-mw-thread-id="h-Compare_the_Meerkat-20240617121600">Compare the Meerkat</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: Compare the Meerkat">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> It appears that you reverted my edits at <a href="/wiki/Compare_the_Meerkat" title="Compare the Meerkat">Compare the Meerkat</a> for citing the Daily Mail. Whilst I see why you did this, the Daily Mail is known to be highly unreliable, there is no ban as you stated to me. In fact there is the quote from the page to linked to that does that 'use as a reference is generally prohibited' but also states ' The restriction is often incorrectly interpreted as a "ban" on the Daily Mail. ' <dl><dd><dl><dd>Apologies if my edit summary was misleading. I'm very glad that you have taken the trouble to read that guidance. I think we both agree that the material that was sourced to the DM was not appropriate. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240617131500-Compare_the_Meerkat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> My main problem is how you dealt with this. It would've been fine if you replaced the source of information and just removed the citation itself. But you chose to revert all changes. I didn't just add that citation. I removed a lot of the useless and non-Wikipedian information that some editors added and restructured parts of that wiki page to make it make more sense and citied other sources and have just had to do that all again. That's all I wanted to say. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34" title="Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34">62.255.165.34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:62.255.165.34" title="User talk:62.255.165.34">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-62.255.165.34-20240617121600-Compare_the_Meerkat" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I see that you have now restored all of your other edits, and left out the DM material, in a single new edit. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240617131500-62.255.165.34-20240617121600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It has been done: The Mirror also covered the info I needed a source for. I checked and they are not in the deprecated section, so I think they are better to use. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34" title="Special:Contributions/62.255.165.34">62.255.165.34</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:62.255.165.34" title="User talk:62.255.165.34">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-62.255.165.34-20240619100300-Martinevans123-20240617131500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="July_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-July_music-20240701122900">July music</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: July music">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Schloss_Tiefurt,_day_lilies_in_park.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg/290px-Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg/435px-Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg/580px-Schloss_Tiefurt%2C_day_lilies_in_park.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3781" data-file-height="2836"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#18_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> The <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#1_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story is today</a> about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#22_May" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">blessed to hear</a>. Listen, and perhaps read what <a href="/wiki/Alma_Mahler" title="Alma Mahler">Alma Mahler</a> (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240701122900-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#2_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240702164000-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Many thanks for this links, Gerda. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240707090700-Gerda_Arendt-20240702164000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> 3 July is the birthday of <a href="/wiki/Leo%C5%A1_Jan%C3%A1%C4%8Dek" title="Leoš Janáček">Leoš Janáček</a>, and I'm happy I had <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#3_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a meaningful DYK in 2021</a>. It's also the birthday of <a href="/wiki/Franz_Kafka" title="Franz Kafka">Franz Kafka</a>, and I uploaded pics from his family's album <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#27_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">seen in Berlin</a>. Proud to have had 2 women in green in June, and the third nom is in progress. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240703134000-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/Libu%C5%A1e_Doman%C3%ADnsk%C3%A1" title="Libuše Domanínská">Libuše Domanínská</a>, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, <a href="/wiki/Tamara_Milashkina" title="Tamara Milashkina">Tamara Milashkina</a> became GA and <a href="/wiki/Lando_Bartolini" title="Lando Bartolini">Lando Bartolini</a> went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in <a href="/wiki/Il_tabarro" title="Il tabarro">Il tabarro</a> in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to <a href="/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty" title="Statue of Liberty">Liberty</a>) up to Calaf in <a href="/wiki/Turandot" title="Turandot">Turandot</a> in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brianboulton" title="User talk:Brianboulton">Brian Boulton</a> and who was a pioneer of <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Percyc_Grainger&diff=579193399&oldid=">a concise infobox</a> in 2013. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240704121800-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] On a friend's birthday - she is pictured on my talk - I have another <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">RD death article</a> that needs reviewing, <a href="/wiki/Martti_Wall%C3%A9n" title="Martti Wallén">Martti Wallén</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240706125900-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 6 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Pictured on the Main page: Brian's <a href="/wiki/Mozart_family_grand_tour" title="Mozart family grand tour">Mozart family grand tour</a>, my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#9_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a>, and <a href="/wiki/Mozart" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozart">Mozart</a> related to all three items of <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, the bass, and <a href="/wiki/Liana_Isakadze" title="Liana Isakadze">Liana Isakadze</a>, a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240709103000-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Found a bit more. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#11_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about her, which is a sad story in the end. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240711135800-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#13_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">I remember today</a> Bach's 1724 cantata for this Sunday which is unusual in many respects. Another woman needs attention for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">RD</a>, <a href="/wiki/Marina_Kondratyeva" title="Marina Kondratyeva">Marina Kondratyeva</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240714195100-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 14 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] She's on the Main page now. My <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#16_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about <a href="/wiki/Die_Entf%C3%BChrung_aus_dem_Serail" title="Die Entführung aus dem Serail">Die Entführung aus dem Serail</a>, opera by <a href="/wiki/Mozart" class="mw-redirect" title="Mozart">Mozart</a>, while <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#15_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">yesterday's</a> was - because of the TFA - about <a href="/wiki/Les_contes_d%27Hoffmann" class="mw-redirect" title="Les contes d'Hoffmann">Les contes d'Hoffmann</a>, opera by <a href="/wiki/Jacques_Offenbach" title="Jacques Offenbach">Offenbach</a>, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240716120500-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 16 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] She's <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#17_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my story today</a>. What would you suggest for a DYK? Don't miss video ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240717220500-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Yesterday I listened in concert to Mozart's <a href="/wiki/Clarinet_Quintet_(Mozart)" title="Clarinet Quintet (Mozart)">Clarinet Quintet</a>, with <a href="/wiki/Sabine_Meyer" title="Sabine Meyer">Sabine Meyer</a>: a delight. - <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#19_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about <a href="/wiki/Ruth_Hesse" title="Ruth Hesse">Ruth Hesse</a>, with a pic in the article only, sadly (show your mom, - a profile with closed eyes). I found it difficult to point at a YouTube sample, because yes, her signature roles - the Nurse and Brangäne - exist in great full-length operas with great casts, but hard to find her. - Talking of YouTube: today I was pointed at <a href="/wiki/Elijah_(oratorio)" title="Elijah (oratorio)">Elijah</a> by a friend who performed in the concert of the <a href="/wiki/Dessoff_Choirs" title="Dessoff Choirs">Dessoff Choirs</a> in their centenary year, and I'm quite impressed by samples (beginning and <a href="/wiki/Wer_bis_an_das_Ende_beharrt" title="Wer bis an das Ende beharrt">No. 32</a> where I linked it) - enjoy! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240719103600-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially <a href="/wiki/View_from_Williamsburg,_Brooklyn,_on_Manhattan,_9/11" title="View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11">View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11</a> If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240720114100-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Just a look at music (on my talk) shows remembrance of three people who died, and <a href="/wiki/Sarah_Gibson_(composer)" title="Sarah Gibson (composer)">creating an article</a> or improving one is all I can do. Three are on the Main page today, and three others planned ... --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240723203100-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] Similarly: <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_Page_history/2024_July_30b" title="Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b">Wikipedia:Main Page history/2024 July 30b</a> will have <a href="/wiki/Jerzy_Artysz" title="Jerzy Artysz">a baritone</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#30_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a violinist</a>, a composer and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#21_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a Bach cantata</a>, - almost too much, and the composer's article, <a href="/wiki/Wolfgang_Rihm" title="Wolfgang Rihm">Wolfgang Rihm</a>, should be better, help wanted. - Plenty of music on my parents anniversary day ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240730215400-July_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd>Gerda, you may not have noticed, but Martin has not really contributed to Wikipedia since 18 June; about six weeks absence. The only reason I know this is because I have him on my 'watchlist', as we have colloborated on a couple of Wiki articles in relatively recent times. However, I do not have any idea as to why he has been absent for so long. Martin is normally such a regular contributor. I hope there is a simply explanation but... Just so you are aware. Regards. - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20240730222500-Gerda_Arendt-20240730215400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Martin sent me a thank you note 7 July, and it's vacation time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240730223000-Derek_R_Bullamore-20240730222500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Thanks for the prompt Derek. Just taking a break. <big>😄</big> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240804082900-Derek_R_Bullamore-20240730222500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:29, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for all the links Gerda. Especially to <a href="/wiki/The_Tales_of_Hoffmann" title="The Tales of Hoffmann">Les contes d'Hoffmann</a>, which led me, via YT, to <a href="/wiki/Anna_Netrebko" title="Anna Netrebko">Anna Netrebko</a> & <a href="/wiki/El%C4%ABna_Garan%C4%8Da" title="Elīna Garanča">Elīna Garanča</a>. Hope all is well with you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240804083800-Martinevans123-20240804082900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Well, thank goodness for that: I had started to worry. On holiday? Anywhere nice? Let us know pre-absence next time, hey, so we can vicariously imagine cool travel destinations, rather than scenarios <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.powerthesaurus.org/in_a_ditch_somewhere/sentences">involving proverbial ditches</a>, etc.? [END: Intrusive demand-mode by inveterate lurker.] Hope all's well; glad to see you around. <a href="/wiki/User:AukusRuckus" title="User:AukusRuckus">AukusRuckus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AukusRuckus" title="User talk:AukusRuckus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-AukusRuckus-20240804142600-Martinevans123-20240804082900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks so much, Aukus. Yes, I hear <a href="/wiki/Ditchling" title="Ditchling">East Sussex</a> is lovely at this time of year. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240806202300-AukusRuckus-20240804142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="August_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-August_music-July_music-20240804090100">August music</h3>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: August music">edit</a>]</div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Flower_bed_of_perennials,_Idstein.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/290px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="217" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/435px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg/580px-Flower_bed_of_perennials%2C_Idstein.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3316" data-file-height="2485"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#17_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> Yes now that we have a sign of life from you! To answer the question when I'm not around, always just look at the top of my talk, for story and music. <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#4_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about the unusual cantata that Bach composed 300 years ago for today's 10th Sunday after Trinity. I am sure that you'll enjoy listening not only to the "surprise" which was a 2011 DYK, but the whole thing, especially No. 6. Under music, you'll see the latest concert (<a href="/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._32_(Beethoven)" title="Piano Sonata No. 32 (Beethoven)">op. 111</a>!), memory of the death of <a href="/wiki/Wolfgang_Rihm" title="Wolfgang Rihm">Wolfgang Rihm</a> (leading to expansion of his biography in wonderful collaboration, and to two new articles so far), and the latest service which nicely connects to our latest concert of three Bach cantatas. Enjoy your break! I have a FAC open if you want work, and will nominate the cantata for GA today, promised. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240804090100-August_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Many thanks, Gerda! <a href="/wiki/Rudbeckia" title="Rudbeckia">Rudbeckias</a> looking very nice there. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240804090500-Gerda_Arendt-20240804090100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Martin missed all of the excitement with <a href="/wiki/Huw_Edwards" title="Huw Edwards">Huw Edwards</a>. Nice time to take a holiday, though.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20240804094600-Martinevans123-20240804090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#7_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my story</a>, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240807143200-Martinevans123-20240804090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>... and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#8_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a third</a>, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240808143300-Martinevans123-20240804090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>On 13 August, <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#13_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Bach's cantata was 300 years old</a>, and the image one. The cantata is an extraordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in <a href="/wiki/Chorale_cantata_cycle" title="Chorale cantata cycle">the cycle</a>. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240813122800-Martinevans123-20240804090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#15_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> is about education, 10 years OTD after <a href="/wiki/Template:User_QAIbox/doc#Kindness" title="Template:User QAIbox/doc">lecturing our founder</a>). Music for today's feast is Monteverdi's, the best concert we ever did (so pictured again on my talk), but it wasn't recorded, substituted with a "Pacific" one that comes with subtitles line by line in Latin and English: I learned something! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240815202800-Martinevans123-20240804090500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 15 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Many thanks for the update, Gerda. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240816210800-Gerda_Arendt-20240815202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 16 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you! - <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#25_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Sunday story</a> about another of Bach's chorale cantatas, listen (alto aria #3!), as I listened to <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Images_2024#22_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Images 2024">two impressive very different choral concerts</a>, - music by 16 composers. In the latest cloudy pictures: a hidden deer, a cat and a blaze of a sunset. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240825134000-Martinevans123-20240816210800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Help? My <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#27_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> is about a woman, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">nominated for RD</a> but needing support as I write this. <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Goehr" title="Alexander Goehr">A composer died</a> whose article is long and mostly unreferenced. And some articles open for review, always. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240827102000-Martinevans123-20240816210800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hi Gerda. I have made a few minor copyedits at <a href="/wiki/Maryvonne_Le_Diz%C3%A8s" title="Maryvonne Le Dizès">Maryvonne Le Dizès</a> and added from sourced recordings. I'm sure many more could be found. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240827112600-Gerda_Arendt-20240827102000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:26, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you - with your help she "made it" just before I went to bed. Goehr work is detailed on the talk. - Interesting animal pictured. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240828210300-Martinevans123-20240827112600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>No worries. My contributions were quite modest. Glad she got there. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240828210800-Gerda_Arendt-20240828210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today it's <a href="/wiki/Siegfried_Lorenz_(baritone)" title="Siegfried Lorenz (baritone)">Siegfried Lorenz (baritone)</a>, on his birthday, nominated for RD. The concerns regarding Goehr are detailed on the talk. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240830192000-Gerda_Arendt-20240828210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today is the birthday of <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#31_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Alma Mahler</a>. I believe that <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#30_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Siegfried Lorenz</a> should be mentioned on the Main page <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNN">among the Recent deaths</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240831211000-Gerda_Arendt-20240828210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks Gerda. I've always been more <a href="/wiki/Konrad_Lorenz" title="Konrad Lorenz">Konrad</a>. We obviously all need to wade in at <a href="/wiki/Fatman_Scoop" title="Fatman Scoop">Fatman Scoop</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240831211600-Gerda_Arendt-20240831211000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>probably ;) - he appeared! Next needing support: <a href="/wiki/Alexander_Goehr" title="Alexander Goehr">Alexander Goehr</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240831223500-Martinevans123-20240831211600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Gwen?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Gwen?-20240810142600">Gwen?</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Gwen?">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I didn't understand what the question was. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb" title="User talk:Deb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Deb-20240810142600-Gwen?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hi Deb. I think Aukus was asking about <a href="/wiki/Welsh_morphology" title="Welsh morphology">Welsh morphology</a>. Perhaps a question for the Talk page there. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240810175900-Deb-20240810142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oh, I see. There is some overlap between the articles, and some unnecessary duplication. <a href="/wiki/User:Deb" title="User:Deb">Deb</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Deb" title="User talk:Deb">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Deb-20240810203600-Martinevans123-20240810175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>Thanks for attempting to understand my ramblings, despite my incoherence, Martin. (You did a pretty good job.) And I'm sorry, I shouldn't have tried to start a discussion that way. Not really the best approach to take (blame my exasperation - which is not anyone else's problem). I appreciate you trying to recruit an expert to help. I will now take it to the more sensible venue, where Deb might weigh in if she would like to. Apologies all round! <a href="/wiki/User:AukusRuckus" title="User:AukusRuckus">AukusRuckus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AukusRuckus" title="User talk:AukusRuckus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-AukusRuckus-20240814104700-Deb-20240810142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><dl><dd>Please see <a href="/wiki/Talk:Literary_Welsh_morphology#Links_to_Welsh_morphology" title="Talk:Literary Welsh morphology">Talk:Literary Welsh morphology#Links to Welsh morphology</a>, if interested. (I chose that page as the most recently active). Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:AukusRuckus" title="User:AukusRuckus">AukusRuckus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AukusRuckus" title="User talk:AukusRuckus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-AukusRuckus-20240814104700-AukusRuckus-20240814104700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 14 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Note: I speak Welsh almost as fluently as <a href="/wiki/Donald_Trump" title="Donald Trump">the Donald</a> speaks <a href="/wiki/Swahili_language" title="Swahili language">Swahili</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240825081500-Deb-20240810142600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England" data-mw-thread-id="h-third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England-20240820171200">third-highest office of the Church of England</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: third-highest office of the Church of England">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I suspect that the origin of that description <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=York_Minster&curid=72950&diff=1240783050&oldid=1240649359">[10]</a> of the <a href="/wiki/Archbishop_of_York" title="Archbishop of York">archbishop of York</a> is due to the monarch being <a href="/wiki/Supreme_Governor_of_the_Church_of_England" title="Supreme Governor of the Church of England">Supreme Governor of the Church of England</a>. Though I think your phrasing is fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonathan_A_Jones" title="User:Jonathan A Jones">Jonathan A Jones</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonathan_A_Jones" title="User talk:Jonathan A Jones">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Jonathan_A_Jones-20240820171200-third-highest_office_of_the_Church_of_England" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for your note Jonathan. I think you are probably right. We'd have to demote <a href="/wiki/Justin_Welby" title="Justin Welby">Justin</a> too, wouldn't we? And, of course, Charles is not even a real vicar, is he. Although both <a href="/wiki/Primates" class="mw-redirect" title="Primates">primates</a>, I think. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240820190200-Jonathan_A_Jones-20240820171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Sweetest_Girl.ogg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Sweetest_Girl.ogg-20240825173600">Orphaned non-free image File:Sweetest Girl.ogg</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Orphaned non-free image File:Sweetest Girl.ogg">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><img alt="⚠" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/35px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png" decoding="async" width="35" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/53px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Ambox_warning_blue.svg/70px-Ambox_warning_blue.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="378" data-file-height="326"/><figcaption>⚠</figcaption></figure> Thanks for uploading <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Sweetest_Girl.ogg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Sweetest Girl.ogg (page does not exist)">File:Sweetest Girl.ogg</a>. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">claim of fair use</a>. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content#Policy" title="Wikipedia:Non-free content">our policy for non-free media</a>). Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#F5" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>. Thank you. --<a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:B-bot" title="User talk:B-bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-B-bot-20240825173600-Orphaned_non-free_image_File:Sweetest_Girl.ogg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not an image, but a music sample. Now replaced with a link to full version. Never mind. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240825174200-B-bot-20240825173600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Agree. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.45.225.166" title="Special:Contributions/31.45.225.166">31.45.225.166</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:31.45.225.166" title="User talk:31.45.225.166">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-31.45.225.166-20240825181200-Martinevans123-20240825174200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:12, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Perhaps you're a <a href="/wiki/User:B-bot" title="User:B-bot">B-bot</a> sockpuppet? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240825183300-31.45.225.166-20240825181200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Walk_On_By"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Walk_On_By"-20240827120000">"<a href="/wiki/Walk_On_By" title="Walk On By">Walk On By</a>"</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: "Walk On By"">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Doesn't get a mention, as it was really just an album track, but Aretha's 1964 version, from <a href="/wiki/Runnin%27_Out_of_Fools" title="Runnin' Out of Fools">Runnin' Out of Fools</a>, must be one of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQasTmynBw">the best</a> (arranged and conducted by <a href="/wiki/Belford_Hendricks" title="Belford Hendricks">Belford Hendricks</a>). It was released as a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.45cat.com/record/79081">Columbia Stereo Seven special 7"</a> but never charted. Speaking of other versions, there have been <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.45cat.com/45_track.php?tt=Walk+On+By">a quite few</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240827120000-"Walk_On_By"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Bayesian_ballast_talk_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Bayesian_ballast_talk_page-20240830125600">Bayesian ballast talk page</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Bayesian ballast talk page">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi Martin, I thought I should respond to you: the Bayesian sinking is an interesting topic and the point you raise about fuel and water levels is a relevant one which I have not seen covered elsewhere. If the sinking was due to the boat heeling, rather than hitting rocks, factors include the degree of heel, the duration of heel, the downflooding angle and the angle of vanishing stability. Contributory factors to these in turn include mast height and weight (some masts are carbon fibre rather than aluminium), engine weight, fixed ballast weight, retractable keel weight and position, water and fuel levels and the position and status of apertures e.g. ducts and hatches/ doors and whether they are open or closed. I have seen discussion that Bayesian was more vulnerable to downflooding and less able to right itself than racing yachts, for example. I do not know whether you could model the impact on the angles of varying fuel and water levels. I am not answering you on the talk page for two reasons: the talk page is supposed to be only for discussion of article changes, not the subject - see notice at the top of the page - and we are not allowed to add original research to the article <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOR">WP:NOR</a> i.e. we can only add something for which there is an reliable, published source. So, if you wish to add fuel/ water levels to the article as a possible contributory cause of the sinking, you have to find a source for this. Whatever editors believe about it personally is beside the point. I hope this makes sense. <a href="/wiki/User:Jontel" title="User:Jontel">Jontel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jontel" title="User talk:Jontel">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Jontel-20240830125600-Bayesian_ballast_talk_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hi Jontel. Many thanks for your very informative note. Yes, I'm aware I might be straying into <a href="/wiki/Stormy_Seas" title="Stormy Seas">OR territory</a> over there. I can assure you that personally I could certainly not ".. model the impact on the angles of varying fuel and water levels"! I'm more used to editing aircraft accidents, so I am a bit <a href="/wiki/All_at_Sea_(TV_series)" title="All at Sea (TV series)">unsteady</a> on all this... Thanks for all your improvements to the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240830131100-Jontel-20240830125600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_music-20240902152000">September music</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: September music">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Sunflower_against_sky,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/290px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/435px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/580px-Sunflower_against_sky%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3596" data-file-height="2698"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#20_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> And he appeared! What do you think of <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#2_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my short version</a> of the life of Alexander Goehr? Our DYK team would probably want to mention that he worked in a training kibbutz, while I was happy to include a link to <a href="/wiki/Lost_operas_by_Claudio_Monteverdi" title="Lost operas by Claudio Monteverdi">an article by Brian Boulton</a>, - we sang the <a href="/wiki/Vespro_della_Beata_Vergine" title="Vespro della Beata Vergine">Monteverdi Vespers</a> on 1 September 2019. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240902152000-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#4_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> has 3 composers, I couldn't decide for the one on the Main page or the one who didn't make it on his bicentenary, so took both, and the pic has a third. Listen if you have a bit of time. The music, played by the <a href="/wiki/Kyiv_Symphony_Orchestra" title="Kyiv Symphony Orchestra">Kyiv Symphony Orchestra</a> in Germany in April 2022, impressed me. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240904145200-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Some tunes by the wonderful <a href="/wiki/Herb_Alpert" title="Herb Alpert">Herb Alpert</a> on the <a href="/wiki/BBC_Proms" title="BBC Proms">BBC Proms</a> tonight: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbsFzPObLk">enjoy this timeless classic from 1965</a> (marimba - Julius Wechter). <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240906212700-Gerda_Arendt-20240904145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you, lovely! - Happy because <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#9_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my story today</a> is about a Czech mezzo soprano who is mentioned on the Main page on her birthday. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240909134100-Martinevans123-20240906212700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Happier about Bach's cantata on the Main page on its 300th birthday (per calendar), <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#10_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">my story</a>! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240910193600-Martinevans123-20240906212700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks Gerda. A truly wonderful piece. Here's the <a href="/wiki/Netherlands_Bach_Society" title="Netherlands Bach Society">Netherlands Bach Society</a> from <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAlt2NAfaYA">2019</a>, with <a href="/wiki/Jos_van_Veldhoven" title="Jos van Veldhoven">Jos van Veldhoven</a> conductor, <a href="/wiki/Maria_Keohane" title="Maria Keohane">Maria Keohane</a> soprano, <a href="/wiki/Tim_Mead" title="Tim Mead">Tim Mead</a> alto, <a href="/wiki/Daniel_Johannsen" title="Daniel Johannsen">Daniel Johannsen</a> tenor and Matthew Brook bass. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240910202800-Gerda_Arendt-20240910193600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a> (And great to see Jos sporting his full <a href="/wiki/Kevin_De_Bruyne" title="Kevin De Bruyne">De Bruyne mullet</a>)[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you, and where do you land when clicking on "watch" in my story? - Please add the recording to the article! (or is that canvassing?) Did you see that I opened a talk page thread for calls for collaboration? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240910204300-Martinevans123-20240910202800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Gerda, as you know, I'm far too busy to go clicking on any of your random Easter egg YouTube links! (It would only be canvassing if you asked me to support the addition of a YouTube link to an article you've probably spent a great deal of time and effort creating or improving). So I probably will, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240910205100-Gerda_Arendt-20240910204300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>no idea what you mean by random: the "watch" is a video, and the "listen" an audio of what is described in the story ;) - the videos of the Dutch are usualyy added by User:Buxtehude, but the Swiss (Lutz) are usually also interesting, and have a good license. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240910210900-Martinevans123-20240910205100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Gerda, please don't mislay your <a href="/wiki/Laughing_Under_the_Clouds" title="Laughing Under the Clouds">sense of humour</a> if you post at my Talk page! I'm the one with the <a href="/wiki/Random_Access_Memories" title="Random Access Memories">YouTube fixation</a>! <big>😄</big> And sincere thanks for all your wonderfully bright musical contributions! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240910211500-Gerda_Arendt-20240910210900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>thank you, I think I missed it this time ;) - An accepted reference for recordings is <a href="/wiki/Muziekweb" class="mw-redirect" title="Muziekweb">Muziekweb</a>, - see any recent Bach cantata, while Bach Cantatas and Discogs are not accepted, although Bach Cantatas is for sure the most detailed source about recordings around Bach. - Don't canvass <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITNN#September_5" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITNN">about Herbie</a>! Don't canvass about Herbie!! Don't canvass about Herbie!!! Not even tomorrow! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240911101300-Martinevans123-20240910211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Three stories related to today in memory, <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#11_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">11 September</a>, <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Jul" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">20 July</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Jun" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">20 June</a>, the latter piece of art also pictured on the Main page. - I began <a href="/wiki/Friedrich_Schorlemmer" title="Friedrich Schorlemmer">Schorlemmer</a> today, more tomorrow. Will not nominate as long as <a href="/wiki/Rebecca_Horn" title="Rebecca Horn">Rebecca Horn</a> is "on". --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240911202300-Martinevans123-20240910211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Nominated anyway, thanking that it usually takes some time to get - attention. I told an admired admin about the situation. <a href="/wiki/User:El_C" title="User:El C">El C</a> used to post to ITNN but is rarely active. Of the five regulars, one only edits on weekends, one last on 7 Sep, and the other three only much earlier today. They usually come around towards midnight. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240912194000-Martinevans123-20240910211500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Towards midnight? Ah yes, I should have <a href="/wiki/Graveyard_Shift_(short_story)" title="Graveyard Shift (short story)">guessed</a>. Did you know... ... that British bassist Herbie <a href="/wiki/Flowers_in_the_Dirt" title="Flowers in the Dirt">Flowers</a> provided the voice for <a href="/wiki/Darth_Vader" title="Darth Vader">Darth Vader</a> in the Star Wars films? But he didn't. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240912195500-Gerda_Arendt-20240912194000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>what I needed! - Don't talk <a href="/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Maryvonne_Le_Diz%C3%A8s" title="Template:Did you know nominations/Maryvonne Le Dizès">about DYK</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240912200000-Martinevans123-20240912195500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>And thank you for your unfailing non-requested <a href="/wiki/Supporters%27_group" title="Supporters' group">support</a>!! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240912200500-Gerda_Arendt-20240912200000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>just don't think I support you ;) - I support a bassist and his music! Perhaps leave a note on the news talk (you need to say that it is about a nom because it's all on one page) that this was ready, and if they don't get their act together they should post him tomorrow. Or can you argue that his death was known only 6 Sep (per dates of death notices)? Then move him to that date. I need sleep now. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240912210100-Martinevans123-20240912200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Congrats! 3 hours into the new day and he appeared! - Today is <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#13_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Schoenberg's 150th birthday</a>! On display, portrayed by <a href="/wiki/Egon_Schiele" title="Egon Schiele">Egon Schiele</a>, with music from <a href="/wiki/Moses_und_Aron" title="Moses und Aron">Moses und Aron</a>, and with two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday, which made me happy then and now again. - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day <a href="/wiki/Anton_Bruckner" title="Anton Bruckner">Bruckner</a>'s 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240913130800-Martinevans123-20240912200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Today <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#15_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">a story</a> about one of the people behind the <a href="/wiki/Peaceful_Revolution" title="Peaceful Revolution">peaceful revolution</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240915204500-Martinevans123-20240912200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#17_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">My story today</a> is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later, in the pictured place. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240917211900-Martinevans123-20240912200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks Gerda. <a href="/wiki/List_of_images_on_the_cover_of_Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band" title="List of images on the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band">Carl Jung</a>?? (No, that was the <a href="/wiki/Carl_Jung" title="Carl Jung">Swiss one</a>, wasn't it.) Here's <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOyRBbaUWL8">Emile</a> from 1985. Superb. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240917213000-Gerda_Arendt-20240917211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a> (<a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Flinner" class="extiw" title="de:Jo Flinner">Jo Flinner</a> - electric piano)[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for the tune! Did you read that E. played accordion back then? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240917213500-Martinevans123-20240917213000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, I did. What an amazing transition. That track recorded as "<a href="/wiki/NDR_Radiophilharmonie" title="NDR Radiophilharmonie">Großer Sendesaal, NDR Hannover</a>"? Great atmosphere. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240917214100-Gerda_Arendt-20240917213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)</a> (I had only heard of <a href="/wiki/Albert_Mangelsdorff" title="Albert Mangelsdorff">his famous brother</a> until a few years ago)[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Did you know that I lived 4 walking minutes from the Sendesaal as a student? Heard Gary Burton? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240918124000-Martinevans123-20240917214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>A cool, laid-back walk, I hope. Amazing. Yes, I have a prized vinyl copy of <a href="/wiki/Good_Vibes_(Gary_Burton_album)" title="Good Vibes (Gary Burton album)">Good Vibes</a>, haha! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240918124400-Gerda_Arendt-20240918124000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>You are spreading good vibes, DYK? - story: one of the great singers, places: recent concert from the back of the choir ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240918132500-Martinevans123-20240918124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Ach,_lieben_Christen,_seid_getrost,_BWV_114" title="Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114">Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114</a>, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240922185700-Martinevans123-20240918124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"></div> <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#25_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">My story today</a> features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a>, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) - Do you think we can fill the few missing refs for <a href="/wiki/Benny_Golson" title="Benny Golson">Benny Golson</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240925124100-September_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks for telling me, Gerda. I hadn't heard. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240925125000-Gerda_Arendt-20240925124100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released" data-mw-thread-id="h-There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released-20240905135600">There is no requirement for a source to say an album has now been released</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: There is no requirement for a source to say an album has now been released">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Gilmour&diff=prev&oldid=1244174507">This is a heavy-handed revert</a>. There has historically been no requirement to have a source saying "an album has now been released" when it's an uncontroversial detail to change tense. Readers like yourself can navigate to any music store set to where it's midnight in the world on that date to see it's been released. The source states "will be released on 6 September" and it's now 6 September, so wording has been changed to reflect that. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ss112&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ss112 (page does not exist)">Ss</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ss112" title="User talk:Ss112">112</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ss112-20240905135600-There_is_no_requirement_for_a_source_to_say_an_album_has_now_been_released" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>There's a simple problem with logic here. A source dated 24 April 2024 can't support a claim for an event on 5 or 6 September 2024. Mr Gilmore may have had every intention of issuing his new album <a href="/wiki/Luck_and_Strange" title="Luck and Strange">Luck and Strange</a> today. But planned events don't always occur. Even the article for the album itself has no sources which claim that it has been released. And if the intention was for 6 September, that's tomorrow. Wikipedia requires sources to show that events actually happened. If the album has been released, I'd be very surprised if you couldn't find a source that states that. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240905141600-Ss112-20240905135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>If there were some delay, a source would have been published prior to 6 September and an editor would likely have changed the date already. Sources are usually published for well-known music artists delaying their albums. The album had been out in only several countries for two hours when I updated the article. NZ or Australian news sources do not post articles stating that artists have released their album in those territories—this is not a thing that regularly happens. I update text relating to album releases every single week, have done so for years, and nobody has said "we need a new source to state the album is now out otherwise you cannot or should not change the text to say so", even on highly watched pages with experienced editors that regularly edit them. Therefore I have to conclude it is not a held belief that we need a new source to change text to say an album's release has occurred when we already have a source stating a date, no information about a delay is available because there isn't one, and that date has now passed. I even sought the opinion of @<a href="/wiki/User:Sergecross73" title="User:Sergecross73">Sergecross73</a>: on this matter, who said: "It's not like we require perpetual assurance from an artist or other sources that a release is still on track from its announcement." I couldn't have put it better. The source on the article stated a date, the date passed, the text can be updated. Pretty straightforward. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ss112&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ss112 (page does not exist)">Ss</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ss112" title="User talk:Ss112">112</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ss112-20240906164900-Martinevans123-20240905141600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wikipedia relies on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> sources. Pretty straightforward. <a href="/wiki/User:Popcornfud" title="User:Popcornfud"><bdi>Popcornfud</bdi></a> has now added my suggested sources at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Popcornfud?vanarticle=David%20Gilmour&noautowarn=true&vanarticlerevid=1244340523">David Gilmour</a> and at <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luck_and_Strange&diff=prev&oldid=1244340685">Luck and Strange</a>. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240906172100-Ss112-20240906164900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>We had a source. I updated some text to say an event had occurred per the source. Thanks. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Ss112&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Ss112 (page does not exist)">Ss</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ss112" title="User talk:Ss112">112</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ss112-20240906175500-Martinevans123-20240906172100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I suggest that any further discussion should take place at <a href="/wiki/Talk:David_Gilmour" title="Talk:David Gilmour">Talk:David Gilmour</a>. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240906175600-Ss112-20240906175500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="You_never_know..." data-mw-thread-id="h-You_never_know...-20240905153600">You never know...</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: You never know...">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> ...where doing a Welsh Grade I building Start article may take you. I had no idea that <a href="/wiki/George_Melly" title="George Melly">George Melly</a> lived at <a href="/wiki/Scethrog_Tower" title="Scethrog Tower">Scethrog Tower</a>, or that <a href="/wiki/Bruce_Chatwin" title="Bruce Chatwin">Bruce Chatwin</a> wrote much of <a href="/wiki/On_The_Black_Hill" class="mw-redirect" title="On The Black Hill">On The Black Hill</a> there. <a href="/wiki/User:KJP1" title="User:KJP1">KJP1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KJP1" title="User talk:KJP1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-KJP1-20240905153600-You_never_know..." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I actually saw George perform at <a href="/wiki/Brecon_Jazz_Festival" title="Brecon Jazz Festival">Brecon</a> once. Later that same night I managed to put my car through a hedge, which took the edge off the evening somewhat. Great <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01FNQzDFSQU">entertainer</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240905154800-KJP1-20240905153600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I imagine the <a href="/wiki/Bonsai" title="Bonsai">hedge</a> didn't enjoy it either. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240905203500-Martinevans123-20240905154800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sadly <a href="/wiki/Hedge_(linguistics)" title="Hedge (linguistics)">not</a>. But I saw it as a very canny <a href="/wiki/Hedge_fund" title="Hedge fund">investment</a>!! ... <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrwWNP1a42M">enjoy!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240905210600-Tryptofish-20240905203500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)</a> [<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Sérgio_Mendes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Sérgio_Mendes-20240906213500"><a href="/wiki/S%C3%A9rgio_Mendes" title="Sérgio Mendes">Sérgio Mendes</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Sérgio Mendes">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> RIP <a href="/wiki/S%C3%A9rgio_Mendes" title="Sérgio Mendes">Sérgio Santos Mendes</a> (February 11, 1941 – September 5, 2024): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GZwbKnjRyE">Mas Que Nada</a> (with added <a href="/wiki/Black_Eyed_Peas" title="Black Eyed Peas">peas</a>)!! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240906213500-Sérgio_Mendes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>And <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30IePC8c99g">the 1966 original "Mais Que Nada"</a> (<a href="/wiki/Lani_Hall" title="Lani Hall">Lani Hall</a> lead vocal). <a href="/wiki/Cacha%C3%A7a" title="Cachaça">Cheers</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240906215400-Martinevans123-20240906213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Herbie_Flowers" data-mw-thread-id="h-Herbie_Flowers-20240908082100"><a href="/wiki/Herbie_Flowers" title="Herbie Flowers">Herbie Flowers</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Herbie Flowers">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> RIP Brian Keith "Herbie" Flowers (19 May 1938 – 5 September 2024): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6fayQBm9w">And the colored girls go...</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240908082100-Herbie_Flowers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>... and not forgetting <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfmHyG8y-g">"Rock On"</a> (1973) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240908155800-Martinevans123-20240908082100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>... or even <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z-2XFO7sP4">"Melting Pot"</a> (1969) ... which was personally very significant (and still is!) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240908193200-Martinevans123-20240908155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Huw_Edwards" data-mw-thread-id="h-Huw_Edwards-20240909100700">Huw Edwards</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Huw Edwards">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> The reason why he was not sacked (according to employment law experts) is that the BBC did not want to set off an unfair dismissal lawsuit that led to a payoff for Edwards. When he did resign, the BBC was keen to stress that he had not received a payoff. However, by then he had received a lot of money and a £40,000 pay rise, much to the annoyance of BBC staff and licence payers. Good news video <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxBQPSnvYgs">here</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20240909100700-Huw_Edwards" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, <a href="/wiki/Good_News_for_People_Who_Love_Bad_News" title="Good News for People Who Love Bad News">that sort</a> of good news... I was so mad I nearly ripped up my virtual online TV licence!! <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGIY5Vyj4YM">[11]</a> But thanks, anyway. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240909101300-Ianmacm-20240909100700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Not_the_Nine_O%27Clock_News" title="Not the Nine O'Clock News">£32 for a TV licence? It's a disgrace! .... It's far too low! With the service the BBC provides, it should be at least £400!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333">Ritchie333</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333">(talk)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333">(cont)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ritchie333-20240909110600-Martinevans123-20240909101300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, I love these old 1960s repeats on BBC 4, <a href="/wiki/Going_for_a_Song" title="Going for a Song">don't you</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240909110900-Ritchie333-20240909110600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Legal experts have said that it would be difficult to recover money paid to Edwards after his arrest due to the <a href="/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence" title="Presumption of innocence">innocent until proved guilty</a> rule. This is why Tim Davie has said that the BBC might consider suspending staff without pay in the future. And even worse, I have had to burn my Blu-ray disc of <a href="/wiki/Skyfall" title="Skyfall">Skyfall</a> because it has Huw Edwards in it.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20240911093300-Martinevans123-20240909110900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:33, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I suspect there are more editions of <a href="/wiki/BBC_News_at_Ten" title="BBC News at Ten">10 O'Clock News</a> with Huw than editions of <a href="/wiki/Top_of_the_Pops" title="Top of the Pops">Top of the Pops</a> with <a href="/wiki/Jimmy_Savile" title="Jimmy Savile">Sir Jimmy</a>, Perhaps they could <a href="/wiki/Multi-scale_camouflage" title="Multi-scale camouflage">pixelate him out</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240911093900-Ianmacm-20240911093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Ah yes, didn't he <a href="/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics" title="2012 Summer Olympics">leap out of a helicopter with the Queen</a>, armed with a plate of <a href="/wiki/Paddington_bear" class="mw-redirect" title="Paddington bear">marmalade sandwiches</a>?? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240911101400-Ianmacm-20240911093300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Also good for a laugh: <a href="/wiki/Giovanni_Di_Stefano_(fraudster)" title="Giovanni Di Stefano (fraudster)">Giovanni Di Stefano</a> (aka "one of life's great swindlers") makes legal threats against Wikipedia and Jimbo <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://x.com/DEVILSADVOKAT/status/1721966240896332182?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet">here</a>. Love the dark glasses, Giovanni.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20240913100400-Martinevans123-20240911101400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Mmmmm, <a href="/wiki/Saddam_Hussein" title="Saddam Hussein">Saddam Hussein</a> and <a href="/wiki/Slobodan_Milo%C5%A1evi%C4%87" title="Slobodan Milošević">Slobodan Milošević</a> star clients. Nice. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240913100600-Ianmacm-20240913100400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>And <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4394095.stm">Jonathan King</a>.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20240913101200-Martinevans123-20240913100600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Shame he never got a chance to sign up Sir Jimmy.....(as far as we know, of course) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240913101400-Ianmacm-20240913101200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-September_2024-20240910155500">September 2024</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: September 2024">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Bertrand_Russell" title="Bertrand Russell">Bertrand_Russell</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> to work toward making a version that represents <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EPTALK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EPTALK">how this is done</a>. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked from editing</a>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. <a href="/wiki/User:AradhanaChatterjee" class="mw-redirect" title="User:AradhanaChatterjee">AradhanaChatterjee</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AradhanaChatterjee" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:AradhanaChatterjee">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-AradhanaChatterjee-20240910155500-September_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Don't you think it might be more constructive to engage in the thread I created at the talk page, instead of slapping on this pointless warning template? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240910155800-AradhanaChatterjee-20240910155500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>... oh, and I reverted just two of your edits, on different things, once each. And now I am in an "edit war"?? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240910160100-Martinevans123-20240910155800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="John" data-mw-thread-id="h-John-20240911201200">John</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=33" title="Edit section: John">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi Martin, <a href="/wiki/John_Keats" title="John Keats">John Keats</a> already has a footnote section. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Keats&diff=1244512969&oldid=1244512665">Could fix the addition?</a> I hope you are doing well. <a href="/wiki/User:Anna_Roy" title="User:Anna Roy">Anna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anna_Roy" title="User talk:Anna Roy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Anna_Roy-20240911201200-John" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah, thank you so much, Anna. Fixed now, I hope. Why do I continue to <a href="/wiki/Fanny_Brawne" title="Fanny Brawne">fanny around</a> over there!? Apols. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240911202700-Anna_Roy-20240911201200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:27, 11 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> Fannying around is always welcome. <a href="/wiki/User:Anna_Roy" title="User:Anna Roy">Anna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anna_Roy" title="User talk:Anna Roy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Anna_Roy-20240912181500-John" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <a href="/wiki/File:Cyrenecoin.jpg" title="File:Cyrenecoin.jpg">File:Cyrenecoin.jpg</a> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Fanny_by_Gaslight_(film)" title="Fanny by Gaslight (film)">Matinees are cheaper</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240912183900-John" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Hill">Oh so much fannying about</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Anna_Roy" title="User:Anna Roy">Anna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Anna_Roy" title="User talk:Anna Roy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Anna_Roy-20240912193500-Martinevans123-20240912183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/The_Weight" title="The Weight">Take a load off.</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20240912211900-Anna_Roy-20240912193500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdwzko9DZ0s">"Hey Bulldog"</a>! (1971) (previously done by some obscure <a href="/wiki/Hey_Bulldog" title="Hey Bulldog">Liverpool boyband</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240912212200-Tryptofish-20240912211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="Another_John" data-mw-thread-id="h-Another_John-John-20240912213400">Another John</h3>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=34" title="Edit section: Another John">edit</a>]</div> Nice one, <a href="/wiki/Jon_Bon_Jovi" title="Jon Bon Jovi">Jon</a>! <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrder972xgo">[12]</a>.. the sort of story that should be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ITN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ITN">in the news</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ4PIFeofd4">"Heart to Hang Onto"</a> from <a href="/wiki/Rough_Mix" title="Rough Mix">Rough Mix</a> (1977). <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240912213400-Another_John" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>A simply brilliant album. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K3HhFDEFlQ">"Street in the City"</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240913221200-Martinevans123-20240912213400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers-20240913040000">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Herbie_Flowers" title="Herbie Flowers">Herbie Flowers</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=35" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Herbie Flowers">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1256334245">.mw-parser-output .ivmbox{margin-bottom:1em;border:1px solid var(--border-color-base,#a2a9b1);background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,#fdf2d5);padding:0.5em;display:flex;align-items:center}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .ivmbox[style*="background"]{background-color:var(--background-color-warning-subtle,ivory)!important;color:inherit}}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-image{padding-left:1px;padding-right:0.5em;max-width:100px;flex:1 0 25px}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text{padding:0.5em 0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:first-child{margin-top:0}.mw-parser-output .ivmbox-text>:last-child{margin-bottom:0}</style><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 13 September 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/Herbie_Flowers" title="Herbie Flowers">Herbie Flowers</a>, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Spencer-20240913040000-ITN_recognition_for_Herbie_Flowers" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:00, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Thank you, Spencer. I'm glad it eventually got posted. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240913081300-Spencer-20240913040000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Herbie_Flowers_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Herbie_Flowers_2-20240913091000">Herbie Flowers</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=36" title="Edit section: Herbie Flowers">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Not to boast ... well actually I have very very little about which to boast so whatthehell whatthehell ... but I worked with <a href="/wiki/Herbie_Flowers" title="Herbie Flowers">Herbie</a> on <a href="/wiki/London_Youth_Opera" title="London Youth Opera">London Youth Opera</a> for the odd week (or two ... mists of memory etc). Due to their weird sprawling network of connections the pro band could contain ludicrously bigtime people as well as smalltime no hopers like me. He was an absolute delight. No bigtime, no side, ridiculously modest about his awesome accomplishments. He was doubling on tuba besides bass and was less comfortable on it, he said, though I thought he was just great. It's a treasured memory that I met and worked with him. <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240913091000-Herbie_Flowers_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wow, amazing. Thanks for sharing that. Tuba and bass an unusual combination! His article probably ought to mention the number of records that have sampled that Wild Side bass line. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240913092000-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20240913091000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr." data-mw-thread-id="h-Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr.-20240924202200"><a href="/wiki/Dr._John" title="Dr. John">Malcolm John Rebennack, Jr.</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=37" title="Edit section: Malcolm John Rebennack, Jr.">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> An example of why he was one of the finest ever <a href="/wiki/Boogie-woogie" title="Boogie-woogie">boogie-woogie</a> players: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=govFtXvXg3I">"Mac's Boogie"</a> from Dr John Plays Mac Rebennack, 1981, Clean Cuts – CC 705. Just wonderful. Whole album. Just sayin' <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240924202200-Malcolm_John_Rebennack,_Jr." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)</a> p.s. yes, that's just one piano; yes, that's just two hands...[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Benny_Golson" data-mw-thread-id="h-Benny_Golson-20240925183800">Benny Golson</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=38" title="Edit section: Benny Golson">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> RIP <a href="/wiki/Benny_Golson" title="Benny Golson">Benny Golson</a> (1929–2024): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjnXU0f0yus">"Stablemates"</a>, from <a href="/wiki/Benny_Golson_and_the_Philadelphians" title="Benny Golson and the Philadelphians">Benny Golson and the Philadelphians</a> (1958). <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240925183800-Benny_Golson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What a great album. <a href="/wiki/Lee_Morgan" title="Lee Morgan">Lee Morgan</a> really shines (his one of the most premature and tragic deaths in jazz music). <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240925200000-Martinevans123-20240925183800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Golson's article shines better than yesterday, but there's more sparkle in the sources (WP and BR especially). Your turn, I may look again tomorrow. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240926183600-Martinevans123-20240925200000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Horizon_Ahead" title="Horizon Ahead">Don't look!</a> I might even add something, <a href="/wiki/Whisper_Not_(song)" title="Whisper Not (song)">quietly</a>... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240926190300-Gerda_Arendt-20240926183600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I might add - from BR - that he said that "Whisper not" means ... nothing ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240926191000-Martinevans123-20240926190300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVvRZWhFF4w">feel</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240926191700-Martinevans123-20240926190300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'd probably choose <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB4xWjgbGwY">this one</a>, although adding audio links to musician articles is sometimes frowned upon. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240926192300-Gerda_Arendt-20240926191700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I like to see him playing ;) - I didn't mean for the article, but with a decent license - why not? - I think that he was the second-to-last person of that famous pic should even go to the lead, and some summary of musical style. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240926193000-Martinevans123-20240926192300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:30, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, videos are often better. I would agree with both suggestions. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240926193300-Gerda_Arendt-20240926193000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Listening to it right now 👍 <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mach61" title="User talk:Mach61">Mach61</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Mach61-20241010170900-Martinevans123-20240925183800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson-20240927150000">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Benny_Golson" title="Benny Golson">Benny Golson</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=39" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Benny Golson">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 27 September 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/Benny_Golson" title="Benny Golson">Benny Golson</a>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Firefangledfeathers" title="User:Firefangledfeathers">Firefangledfeathers</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Firefangledfeathers" title="User talk:Firefangledfeathers">talk</a> / <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers" title="Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Firefangledfeathers-20240927150000-ITN_recognition_for_Benny_Golson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240927151500-Firefangledfeathers-20240927150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#28_Sep" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">preview</a> --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20240927223800-Martinevans123-20240927151500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Repair_Shop" data-mw-thread-id="h-Repair_Shop-20240929213600">Repair Shop</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=40" title="Edit section: Repair Shop">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi Martinevans123. Thanks for your attention to the Repair Shop article. The IP editor (I assume it’s all the same one) seems immune to talkpage messages and the edit summaries we’ve used when reverting the edits. I’ve requested pending changes protection. —-<a href="/wiki/User:Northernhenge" title="User:Northernhenge">Northernhenge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Northernhenge" title="User talk:Northernhenge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Northernhenge-20240929213600-Repair_Shop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>User(s) blocked. 2A02:C7C:B46D:8F00:0:0:0:0/64 x 1 week. --<a href="/wiki/User:Northernhenge" title="User:Northernhenge">Northernhenge</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Northernhenge" title="User talk:Northernhenge">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Northernhenge-20240930065300-Northernhenge-20240929213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Yes, thanks for telling me. Blades has been charged and bailed to appear at Worcester Crown Court on October 11. So we really shouldn't mention it until then. But the press has explained that he is "taking time out" from the show e.g. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jay-blades-bbc-repair-shop-location-b2543363.html">The Independent</a> (although sourced from <a href="/wiki/The_Sun_(United_Kingdom)" title="The Sun (United Kingdom)">the Sun</a>). It also seems that his uncle was killed in March. In an interview with The Independent, Blades said <a href="/wiki/The_Repair_Shop" title="The Repair Shop">The Repair Shop</a> "saved his life after he secured the presenting gig after an acute mental health crisis and an attempted suicide." <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20240930085700-Northernhenge-20240929213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." data-mw-thread-id="h-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way....-20241001185100">Also, it takes much longer to get up North, the slow way....</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=41" title="Edit section: Also, it takes much longer to get up North, the slow way....">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Released exactly <a href="/wiki/New_Boots_and_Panties!!" title="New Boots and Panties!!">47 years ago today</a>. Well, knock me darn <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPgKKQeASw">wiv a fevver</a>! Exquisitely crafted and economical <a href="/wiki/Chaz_Jankel" title="Chaz Jankel">Chaz Jankel</a> guitar solo, jumping across the stereo channels. Widebrows wonder whether... A great premier... <a href="/wiki/The_Magic_Flute" title="The Magic Flute">sheer magic</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) 09:22, 30 September 2024 UTC (Wake Up! .. with <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz1MYKsXp9Q">Wilco</a>) <dl><dd>Stop it! You're making me feel old... It still sounds as fresh as the day it was made. <a href="/wiki/User:John" title="User:John">John</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:John" title="User talk:John">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-John-20241001185100-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>My exact thoughts entirely. 47 years?? seems only like last week... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241001191200-John-20241001185100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:12, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>I loved that thing so much. Still do. <a href="/wiki/User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">DBaK</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered" title="User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20241001221700-John-20241001185100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd>Hampton Wick, Berkshire Hunt; Fraser and Nash, Pony and trap!! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241002072800-DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered-20241001221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Dahlias,_Elisengarten,_Aachen.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg/290px-Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg/435px-Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg/580px-Dahlias%2C_Elisengarten%2C_Aachen.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3409" data-file-height="2557"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#22_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>You may remember <a href="/wiki/Maryvonne_Le_Diz%C3%A8s" title="Maryvonne Le Dizès">Maryvonne Le Dizès</a>, my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#3_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> as <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#28_Aug" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">on 28 August</a>. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Some_September_music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">Some September music</a> was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with <a href="/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_Ligeti" title="György Ligeti">Ligeti</a> mentioned in story and music. Sloooow music! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120700-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>today <a href="/wiki/Rohan_de_Saram" title="Rohan de Saram">Rohan de Saram</a> - unbelievable story --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241007223800-Gerda_Arendt-20241003120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:38, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Many thanks, Gerda. Great article. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241008182600-Gerda_Arendt-20241007223800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#8_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today</a> is the birthday of <a href="/wiki/Tabea_Zimmermann" title="Tabea Zimmermann">Tabea Zimmermann</a>, and you can listen to the exact concert I mentioned last year ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241008213200-Martinevans123-20241008182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Thank you so much for improving <a href="/wiki/Leif_Segerstam" title="Leif Segerstam">Leif Segerstam</a>. I'll join, but had one yesterday, one today, and there's one for tomorrow. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241010221600-Martinevans123-20241008182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:16, 10 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#11_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today I remember</a> an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011200500-Martinevans123-20241008182600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. Where would ITN/RD <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwCf2XlB1Hs">without you</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241011210100-Gerda_Arendt-20241011200500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>It would work somehow, but my kind of people wouldn't get attention: in 4 consecutive days a bishop, a conductor, a social scientist and then Segerstam. That Kris singer got a million views when he died, without RD, and de Saram no more than a few thousand. Today's organist is alive and happy, - good interview but in German, with bits of music. Never heard him live ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241011211300-Martinevans123-20241011210100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Very glad to hear that <a href="/wiki/Martin_L%C3%BCcker" title="Martin Lücker">Martin</a> is still tickling the church ivories! Gerda, you really do know <a href="/wiki/A_Star_Is_Born_(1976_film)" title="A Star Is Born (1976 film)">all the stars</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241011211700-Gerda_Arendt-20241011211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Today brought <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#ITN_recognition_for_Helmut_Bauer_(bishop)" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">a timely promotion</a> of <a href="/wiki/Helmut_Bauer_(bishop)" title="Helmut Bauer (bishop)">Helmut Bauer</a> to the Main page on the day when <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#12_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">pieces from Mozart's Requiem</a> were performed for him. - Next one nominated. Will probably skip the third. Haven't looked at Segerstam yet, - there's still <a href="/wiki/Schm%C3%BCcke_dich,_o_liebe_Seele,_BWV_180" title="Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele, BWV 180">tomorrow's cantata to adorn</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241012182200-Martinevans123-20241011211700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Leif_Segerstam" title="Leif Segerstam">Leif Segerstam</a> is looking in pretty good shape. But I think I've lost some confidence in the ITN/RD process... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013125300-Gerda_Arendt-20241012182200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I looked into Segerstam now. It has a strange structure of an article, - I moved the details and refs from the lead to below where they were missing, merged the two corners for recordings and am inclined to do the same for "Compositions" and "Works". I added a few refs I can see and trust. My problem is that all the archived refs come back to me with a timeout message, ontop of being in Finnish or Swedish. Would you agree that the first "External link" looks good enough for a ref? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241013165400-Martinevans123-20241013125300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I tried the first ref, next to his name, and neither the live version nor the archived version work at all for me. I guessed it was translation issue. Yes, that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://blf.fi/artikel.php?id=1522">BLF</a> source looks good enough to me, especially as it has it's own set of sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013170200-Gerda_Arendt-20241013165400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Internet Archive's "The Wayback Machine" has been hacked and is down now. <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/">https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Grimes2" title="User:Grimes2">Grimes2</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Grimes2" title="User talk:Grimes2">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Grimes2-20241013171000-Martinevans123-20241013170200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello Grimes2. Thank you very much for telling me. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013172800-Grimes2-20241013171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:28, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>That explains it, thank you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241013175300-Grimes2-20241013171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>nominated --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241013195400-Grimes2-20241013171000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:54, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>That's very gracious of you, Gerda. Another one of the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXYW0nVvn4">Seven Deadly Finns</a>, alas. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013200200-Gerda_Arendt-20241013195400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I made Leif Segerstam my <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#16_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">big</a> story today, and he has enough support to make an exception tomorrow. Let's not get nervous ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134100-Martinevans123-20241013200200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Stranger things <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-88l-M0KgkI">have happened</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241016134500-Gerda_Arendt-20241016134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>... with <a href="/wiki/Sammy_Price" title="Sammy Price">Sammy Price</a> on piano. Just utterly wonderful. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241016165700-Martinevans123-20241016134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"></div> My <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#20_Oct" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">story today</a> is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241020173700-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:37, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. Very interesting. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241020201300-Gerda_Arendt-20241020173700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you! As this place works, it's on the Main page now because of the date (but Bach wrote it for the 20th Sunday, not the Tuesday after the 21st Sunday after Trinity). I sort of like it because it's the anniversary date of my grandfather who loved and grew dahlias like those pictured. I decided to make one of the songs he liked (and sang with a voice below bass) today's article, - can translate from German. You heard it here first before it's even on my user page ;) - I like what did for "Jinty", a lot! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241022104400-Martinevans123-20241020201300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:44, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>That's a first, I think... Gerda's grandfather's dahlias on the Main page! Good for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241022104900-Gerda_Arendt-20241022104400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:49, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well, Chris said it's a fine pic, but is not formally qualified, and I didn't apply for FP after <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/missed_users" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/missed users">the lead image here</a> was rejected (because of the photographer, not the quality). - My grandfather planted dahlias like that, and many other varieties, marking them by little metal plaques when inside for the winter, to remember height and colour. I loved that dedication. These particular ones were seen on last year's choir outing, in Aachen. - No, I meant the cantata, and was of course mistaken, because the last one was BWV 38 (for the 21st Sunday), with these strange discussions on the talk. (I really had forgotten that the rejected table was on the talk, and created it again, and it was rejected again ...) - BWV 180, first on 22 October 1724, then the 20th Sunday, was based on a somewhat younger hymn. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241022112300-Martinevans123-20241022104900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg/220px-Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="262" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg/330px-Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg/440px-Balle-%C3%A0-leunettes_Halloween.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1137" data-file-height="1356"/></a><figcaption>"Let's Make America <a href="/wiki/Gourd" title="Gourd">Gourd</a> Again!"</figcaption></figure> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd>Haha, yes I knew it was the cantata really! Glad it got there. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241022120700-Also,_it_takes_much_longer_to_get_up_North,_the_slow_way...." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>song created - In today's story, I decided against the one I liked best, in favour of one with the choir mentioned, but the other is in music ;) - in case you can't find it: <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KOI4Vfrq7s">Lamento</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241022131400-Martinevans123-20241022120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:14, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I hope you kept reading to the <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#rich_day" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">rich day</a>. Today a caricature, for a change. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241030165100-Martinevans123-20241022120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Happy whatever you celebrate today, - greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted <a href="/wiki/Cucurbita" title="Cucurbita">Cucurbita</a> in 2016. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241031164400-Martinevans123-20241022120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Happy Halloween! Give my regards to <a href="/wiki/User:KJP1" title="User:KJP1">Señor KJP</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241031172300-Gerda_Arendt-20241031164400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dee_Palmer" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dee_Palmer-20241005233700"><a href="/wiki/Dee_Palmer" title="Dee Palmer">Dee Palmer</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=42" title="Edit section: Dee Palmer">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> It is worth noting that the hopelessly unreliable source of Discogs has <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.discogs.com/artist/342293">David Gerald Palmer</a> as the name at birth. I suspect that this one may run and run until her definitive obituary is published. Still alive, of course at present, but she is 87. This is when <a href="/wiki/User:Ghmyrtle" title="User:Ghmyrtle">D.I. Hamilton</a> would put his deerstalker on, but I must report he is, sadly, largely AWOL these days. - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241005233700-Dee_Palmer" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>We know we can't use <a href="/wiki/FreeBMD" title="FreeBMD">FreeBMD</a> as a source, but it has <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=174878243:7819&d=bmd_1727345375">this record</a> for a David V. Palmer registered in the second quarter 1937, mmn Breens, but in <a href="/wiki/Romford" title="Romford">Romford</a> not Hendon. There are no David Palmer births registered in Hendon in 1937 or 1938. How very frustrating. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241006084600-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241005233700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <dl><dd>And, while you're here... any idea which year <a href="/wiki/Bernard_Purdie" title="Bernard Purdie">Bernard Purdie</a> was born?? Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241009170600-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241005233700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not definitely, But... <a href="/wiki/AllMusic" title="AllMusic">AllMusic</a> reckons <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.allmusic.com/artist/bernard-pretty-purdie-mn0000047401">1939</a>, whilst The Guinness Who's Who of Jazz does not list him at all. I have more Larkin publications, but they are presently under a pile of stuff destined for the local charity shop(s). You know how it is. Again our old mate Guy would probably turn something up, but he seems to be otherwise detained these days. I assume that book you added (currently a bare URL, you naughty boy) states 1939 ? On that evidence I vote we stick by our guns until someone comes up with a reliable source or two, stating something else. It might be one of those cases where the article ultimately has to state his DOB is disputed - but I don't think we are there yet. Any help ? - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241009181900-Martinevans123-20241009170600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>How very dare you. There's nothing bare about Clifford and Frame (1986), any more, thankyou! Why would Purdie himself have <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.bernardpurdiedrums.com/the-legend">1942</a> and other reliable sources not?! Good luck charity shops! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241009182500-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241009181900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The <a href="/wiki/Doctor_Who" title="Doctor Who">time lag thing</a> did for me ! Anyhow, Purdie reckoned he drummed on umpteen Beatles numbers, but can not provide any proof, so I would not go a bundle on him getting his DOB right. Do you think I should give the charity shop advance warning ? - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241009183300-Martinevans123-20241009182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:33, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Ah yes, <a href="/wiki/The_Rocky_Horror_Picture_Show" title="The Rocky Horror Picture Show">"let's do the time lag again"!!</a> (in fact, that might be a useful link to warn your local charity shop...) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241009185800-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241009183300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hard to believe that Wikipedia has been going... ooo, what is it... <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-yEL0f5Os">40, 45 years??</a> already. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241020201800-Martinevans123-20241009185800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yeah, and even harder to believe it has not got anything right yet !? Still, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYQTL-ws6p4">there's always The Sun</a>. - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241020213700-Martinevans123-20241020201800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 20 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Glad I've finally found our <a href="/wiki/Page_3_culture" title="Page 3 culture">Page 3</a>... <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241021085400-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241020213700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="an_ignorant_question-_apologies" data-mw-thread-id="h-an_ignorant_question-_apologies-20241011165800">an ignorant question- apologies</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=43" title="Edit section: an ignorant question- apologies">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi , thanks for your recent reversal of my edit on JPR Williams, which I don't argue with at all. I wondered how your attention had been drawn to it - are you allocated an area of coverage within some 'wiki article checking' structure? apologies for ignorance but I couldn't see an explanation for how it works anywhere. Thanks <a href="/wiki/User:Asto77" title="User:Asto77">Asto77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asto77" title="User talk:Asto77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Asto77-20241011165800-an_ignorant_question-_apologies" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hi Asto77. I'm glad you were happy with that revert. I simply saw it on my watchlist. I assume you have one? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241011170500-Asto77-20241011165800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>tks <a href="/wiki/User:Asto77" title="User:Asto77">Asto77</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Asto77" title="User talk:Asto77">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Asto77-20241012060900-Martinevans123-20241011170500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-October_2024-20241013104200">October 2024</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=44" title="Edit section: October 2024">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Singleton4321" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Singleton4321</a>. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Ritchie333" title="User:Ritchie333">Ritchie333</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ritchie333" title="User talk:Ritchie333">(talk)</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ritchie333" title="Special:Contributions/Ritchie333">(cont)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ritchie333-20241013104200-October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you for raising this. I'm not sure I can add any more that's not already very clearly visible at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Oliver_James_(psychologist)" title="Talk:Oliver James (psychologist)">Talk:Oliver James (psychologist)</a> and <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Singleton4321" title="User talk:Singleton4321">User talk:Singleton4321</a>. Other affected editors may wish to comment. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013111400-Ritchie333-20241013104200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I must admit I had not considered the possibility that the IP editor and/or the registered user is/are, in fact, a mischeivous third party who is intent on portraying Mr James in as poor a light as possible. I'm not sure there are Wikipedia procedures that allow for the confirmation or refutation of such a possibility. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241013222600-Martinevans123-20241013111400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam-20241016162100">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Leif_Segerstam" title="Leif Segerstam">Leif Segerstam</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=45" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Leif Segerstam">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 16 October 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/Leif_Segerstam" title="Leif Segerstam">Leif Segerstam</a>, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Spencer-20241016162100-ITN_recognition_for_Leif_Segerstam" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Thank you, Spencer. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241016165400-Spencer-20241016162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="a_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-a_request-20241016205300">a request</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=46" title="Edit section: a request">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hello Martin, this is Lizzie Nelson, Jinty Nelson’s daughter. My parents divorced in 2010 (their marriage was not dissolved) and I added myself and my brother Billy as her children. Please reinstate these changes. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165" title="Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165">5.80.223.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.80.223.165" title="User talk:5.80.223.165">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-5.80.223.165-20241016205300-a_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello Lizzie. Yes, I guessed that it might have been you or your brother. Please accept my sincere condolences. I'll see if we can agree to change that, even though the source says something slightly different. I'm sorry that Wikipedia articles can only include family members who are notable (i.e. also have a Wikipedia article) in the infobox. Kind regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241016210300-5.80.223.165-20241016205300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:03, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thank you Martin. I think you can add Lizzie and Billy as her children without us having Wikipedia pages ourselves. If you can do so, I’d appreciate it. Many thanks. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165" title="Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165">5.80.223.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.80.223.165" title="User talk:5.80.223.165">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-5.80.223.165-20241016222400-Martinevans123-20241016210300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>but if that’s not how it works it’s no problem. Thanks again. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165" title="Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165">5.80.223.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.80.223.165" title="User talk:5.80.223.165">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-5.80.223.165-20241016222700-5.80.223.165-20241016222400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>The infobox at least now recognizes you two's existence and the body is logically following about your parents' divorce. I think Martin is right that we'd need a "reliable source" for your first or middle names. If it's any consolation, divorce is the main form of marriage dissolution to many readers outside of Britain, so it's not like this lot ever presumed anything but divorce in 2010. <a href="/wiki/User:InedibleHulk" title="User:InedibleHulk">InedibleHulk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InedibleHulk" title="User talk:InedibleHulk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-InedibleHulk-20241016231600-5.80.223.165-20241016222700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, having "2" for children, in the infobox, is fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241017073700-InedibleHulk-20241016231600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd> <dd>OK, I've added your names, because I like them and I trust you. This may not be entirely by-the-book, but that's me, InedibleHulk. I can't promise they'll stick, and hope I don't hear from her real children later, but this seems reasonable enough. <a href="/wiki/User:InedibleHulk" title="User:InedibleHulk">InedibleHulk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:InedibleHulk" title="User talk:InedibleHulk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-InedibleHulk-20241016232300-5.80.223.165-20241016222700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I'm very surprised. I'd not have expected Who's Who to name them, unless they were also notable in some way. And I think it's very unlikely we'll find any other source that names them, unless they personally know of one and could provide it. As the article is now nominated at ITN/RD, it should hopefully get more eyes on. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241017073400-InedibleHulk-20241016232300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:34, 17 October 2024 (UTC)</a> p.s. but see now <a href="/wiki/Talk:Janet_Nelson#Family" title="Talk:Janet Nelson">Talk:Janet Nelson#Family</a>.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello Martin, this is Lizzie again, just to thank you for the edits you have made, they are very much appreciated. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165" title="Special:Contributions/5.80.223.165">5.80.223.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:5.80.223.165" title="User talk:5.80.223.165">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-5.80.223.165-20241018160800-Martinevans123-20241017073400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>No worries, Lizzie. Your mother was held in very high esteem in the medieval history academic community in the UK. Hopefully a link to her article will soon appear on the Main page. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241018161300-5.80.223.165-20241018160800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18-20241018195600">Disambiguation link notification for October 18</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=47" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for October 18">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Fake_or_Fortune%3F" title="Fake or Fortune?">Fake or Fortune?</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/John_Reid" class="mw-disambig" title="John Reid">John Reid</a>. (<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-DPL_bot-20241018195600-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_18" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I was looking for Sir John Reid, <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1243/JILE_PROC_1933_023_013_02?journalCode=jila">this guy</a>, "... born in Manchester on 28 October 1861: son of James Reid. Died 25 January 1933. Educated Glasgow Academy, Herbertshire Castle School and Glasgow Mechanics Institute. Apprenticed Neilson Reid. Taken into partnership in 1893. Knighted 1918.": (<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="http://borht.org.uk/people/reidfam.htm">[13]</a>) But there is no article for him yet. Seems he was an avid art collector, especially of <a href="/wiki/Jean-Baptiste-Camille_Corot" title="Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot">Jean-Baptiste-Camille Corot</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241019172200-DPL_bot-20241018195600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson-20241019101500">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Janet_Nelson" title="Janet Nelson">Janet Nelson</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=48" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Janet Nelson">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 19 October 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/Janet_Nelson" title="Janet Nelson">Janet Nelson</a>, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. —<a href="/wiki/User:Bagumba" title="User:Bagumba">Bagumba</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bagumba" title="User talk:Bagumba">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Bagumba-20241019101500-ITN_recognition_for_Janet_Nelson" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Thank you. So will dedicate <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7kduNihACs">this</a> to Dame Jinty for her 2019 King and Emperor: A New Life of Charlemagne! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241019102300-Bagumba-20241019101500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:23, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a> ("<a href="/wiki/Larry_Carlton" title="Larry Carlton">Larry Carlton</a>'s multi-sectioned, cosmic-jazz lead in this cut may be the best of all: It's so complex it's a song in its own right.")[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_You!!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_You!!-20241019145100">Thank You!!</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=49" title="Edit section: Thank You!!">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> You are very much appreciated. I wish the majority of WP editors were as civil. <a href="/wiki/User:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User:Bill the Cat 7">Bill the Cat 7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User talk:Bill the Cat 7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Bill_the_Cat_7-20241019145100-Thank_You!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:top;"><a href="/wiki/File:Civility_barnstar.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Civility_barnstar.png/100px-Civility_barnstar.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="96" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Civility_barnstar.png 1.5x" data-file-width="111" data-file-height="107"/></a> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;">The Civility Barnstar </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">message <a href="/wiki/User:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User:Bill the Cat 7">Bill the Cat 7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User talk:Bill the Cat 7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Bill_the_Cat_7-20241019145200-Thank_You!!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd>Thank you Bill, that's very kind of you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241019171700-Bill_the_Cat_7-20241019145200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>My pleasure. You've earned acknowledgement. <a href="/wiki/User:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User:Bill the Cat 7">Bill the Cat 7</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bill_the_Cat_7" title="User talk:Bill the Cat 7">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Bill_the_Cat_7-20241019182500-Martinevans123-20241019171700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""Time_to_Say_Goodbye"" data-mw-thread-id="h-"Time_to_Say_Goodbye"-20241022092700">"Time to Say Goodbye"</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=50" title="Edit section: "Time to Say Goodbye"">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/trump-time-to-say-goodbye-town-hall-music-b2629469.html">If only it was that time...</a> <ul><li>"The crowd, who bizarrely remained in attendance, were treated to Luciano Pavarotti's rendition of “Ave Marie,” Sinead O’Connor’s “Nothing Compares 2 U” , Guns N' Roses “November Rain” and James Brown’s “It's A Man’s World” to name just a few."</li> <li>"Another person compared the moves to a "drunk great aunt at the end of the wedding whilst other guests place bets on how long she’ll stay upright for"." <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241022092700-"Time_to_Say_Goodbye"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="John_Thomas_Straffen" data-mw-thread-id="h-John_Thomas_Straffen-20241023023000">John Thomas Straffen</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=51" title="Edit section: John Thomas Straffen">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hi, Martin. Hope all's well. Sorry to ask out of the blue, but can you help me with something? I wonder if you can help me in finding the names of the parents of John Thomas Straffen (b. 27 Feb. 1930)? His father - acc. to some sources - was John Thomas Sr., but it is the name and maiden name of the mother which, in particular, I need to locate for (<a href="/wiki/Surprise_Surprise_(British_TV_series)" title="Surprise Surprise (British TV series)">Surprise Surprise</a> our <a href="/wiki/Cilla_Black" title="Cilla Black">Cilla</a>) the Wiki. true crime article. <a href="/wiki/User:Kieronoldham" title="User:Kieronoldham">Kieronoldham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kieronoldham" title="User talk:Kieronoldham">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Kieronoldham-20241023023000-John_Thomas_Straffen" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hi Kieron. Great to hear from you. I'll see what I can find. For a start, this FreeBMD <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=162343464:4831&d=bmd_1727345375">record</a> says his mother's name was Morgan. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241023070900-Kieronoldham-20241023023000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:09, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I see that <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Murder_Files_from_Scotland_Yard_and_the/wz1jDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22John+Thomas+Straffen%22+f">this source</a> says "John Thomas Straffen Sr", but I have no idea how reliable a source that book might be. The author, R. Michael Gordon, has no wiki article, but the book looks OK. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241023091000-Martinevans123-20241023070900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a>. Invaluable info. Key.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kieronoldham" title="User:Kieronoldham">Kieronoldham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kieronoldham" title="User talk:Kieronoldham">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Kieronoldham-20241024024100-Martinevans123-20241023091000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sorry, I don't currently have access to any genealogy site, where his father and mother's full names might be available. His father's details are probably available somewhere on the numerous military research sites, or may be requested from the military records via gov.uk. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241024070400-Kieronoldham-20241024024100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a> p.s. you might also find <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/23639738">this article</a> useful.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Don't worry I am going to use the info. you provided - I'll find her first name. :) I found a licensed image of Straffen's mother giving her first name online a short while ago. Will soon relocate it. Thanks again for your help.--<a href="/wiki/User:Kieronoldham" title="User:Kieronoldham">Kieronoldham</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kieronoldham" title="User talk:Kieronoldham">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Kieronoldham-20241025023000-Martinevans123-20241024070400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="A_barnstar_for_you!" data-mw-thread-id="h-A_barnstar_for_you!-20241023152700">A barnstar for you!</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=52" title="Edit section: A barnstar for you!">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <table style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><a href="/wiki/File:Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/100px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png" decoding="async" width="100" height="95" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/150px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png/200px-Barnstar_of_Reversion_Hires.png 2x" data-file-width="2000" data-file-height="1900"/></a> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;">The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Glad you have taken a bit of spare time viewing all contributions from a certain user account even if articles may not be of interest to you. Your part in anti-vandalism helps keeps Wikipedia in a good state of viewing for everyone. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iggy_the_Swan" title="Special:Contributions/Iggy the Swan">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Iggy_the_Swan-20241023152700-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd>Thanks Iggy. You know how it is... One gets <a href="/wiki/Search_and_Destroy_(Thirty_Seconds_to_Mars_song)" title="Search and Destroy (Thirty Seconds to Mars song)">all pumped up</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241023153200-Iggy_the_Swan-20241023152700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192700">Invitation to participate in a research</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=53" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <figure class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:File/Thumb"><a href="/wiki/File:Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg/220px-Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg" decoding="async" width="220" height="193" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg/330px-Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg/440px-Classified_documents_at_Mar-A-Lago_1000-6.jpg 2x" data-file-width="1000" data-file-height="878"/></a><figcaption>WMF survey results, stored in a <a href="/wiki/Bathroom" title="Bathroom">bathroom</a> at the luxurious health spa "<a href="/wiki/Mar-a-Lago" title="Mar-a-Lago">Wik-i-Lago</a>", awaiting a final count by genial maître d' Jimbo Wales</figcaption></figure> Hello, The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. 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Kind Regards, <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>YES: please enter my name into the free prize draw to win an all-expenses-paid, eat-and-drink-all-inclusive, fill-your-boots, two-week vacation at the Jimbo Wales <s>Ranch in Texas</s> <a href="/wiki/Mar-a-Lago" title="Mar-a-Lago">Wik-i-Lago Spa Resort</a> in Florida. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241030105100-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Congrats, Martin, as the lucky winner, you even get a free <a href="/wiki/Hurricane_(cocktail)" title="Hurricane (cocktail)">hurricane</a>. (<a href="/wiki/Tropical_cyclone_scales" title="Tropical cyclone scales">Extra-large.</a>) --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20241030200100-Martinevans123-20241030105100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yay!! I knew those <a href="/wiki/Golden_Shower_of_Hits" title="Golden Shower of Hits">Jimbo sex tapes</a> would <a href="/wiki/Blackmail_(1929_film)" title="Blackmail (1929 film)">come in handy</a> one day! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241030200400-Tryptofish-20241030200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:04, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Indeed! It's always darkest before the <a href="/wiki/Stormy_Daniels" title="Stormy Daniels">storm</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20241030201000-Martinevans123-20241030200400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes-siree! Let's "Make America <a href="/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack" title="January 6 United States Capitol attack">Gruesome Again</a>" ... <a href="/wiki/Stormtroopers_(Imperial_Germany)" title="Stormtroopers (Imperial Germany)">Storm on</a>, I say! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241030201700-Tryptofish-20241030201000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd>(<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_stalker" title="Wikipedia:Talk page stalker">talk page stalker</a>) Please forward your bank details to enable us to send you your prize. For added security we are required to ask you for your banking details such as your branch, mother's maiden name and the name of your first pet.</dd> <dd>(I've no idea how I have ended up here, I can only assume I've reverted vandalism on your page at some point) <a href="/wiki/User:Knitsey" title="User:Knitsey">Knitsey</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Knitsey" title="User talk:Knitsey">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Knitsey-20241030200600-Martinevans123-20241030105100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Haha, lol. Don't worry <a href="/wiki/The_Knitters" title="The Knitters">Knittersy</a>, you'll get <a href="/wiki/Cut_and_Shoot,_Texas" title="Cut and Shoot, Texas">your cut</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241030201900-Knitsey-20241030200600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 30 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?" data-mw-thread-id="h-And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241103124400">And while we're here... 75 million voters? really?</h3>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=54" title="Edit section: And while we're here... 75 million voters? really?">edit</a>]</div> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-speech-campaign-rally-milwaukee-october-1-2024/">Wow</a> <dl><dd>"He's [Elon Musk] something -- he's a piece of work, I'll tell you. But he had it done in about 15 seconds. He said, "Look, it goes right up to the satellite." It's already back down. And they had so much -- they had such great communication so rapidly. It's incredible, actually. And the situation in western North Carolina is very catastrophic, very bad."]</dd> <dd>"The green new scam is one of the greatest, most difficult things to be watching. The real number they want is $93 trillion. They want buildings taken down and new buildings built without windows because it's more efficient. Let's do that. Let's just tell people. You have a beautiful apartment, but you don't have any windows."</dd> <dd>"It used to be a part of Russia. But he had a whole history going. It was something -- he would have never done it. He would have never done it with me there. I mean, I can't speak for the future, probably would have done it eventually. He would have done it because he wanted it. But this was something that was very important to him, but he would have never done it."</dd></dl> <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/15/trump-democrats-cows-windows">"They just come up, they want to do things like no more cows and no windows in buildings... They have some wonderful plans for this country... Honestly, they’re crazy, and they’re really hurting out country, badly.</a></dd> <dd>etc., etc., etc.</dd></dl> Just wow. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241103124400-And_while_we're_here..._75_million_voters?_really?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Wanna trade? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20241103230400-Martinevans123-20241103124400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Quite a few political slebs going <a href="/wiki/Spare_(memoir)" title="Spare (memoir)">spare</a> over here... Some also have extensive experience in <a href="/wiki/Jacob_Rees-Mogg" title="Jacob Rees-Mogg">TV news</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241104080300-Tryptofish-20241103230400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Aladdin" data-mw-thread-id="h-Aladdin-20241031214100">Aladdin</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=55" title="Edit section: Aladdin">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aladdin_%28disambiguation%29&diff=1254611384&oldid=1254610183">[14]</a>: I took you up on this. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.142.52.139" title="Special:Contributions/90.142.52.139">90.142.52.139</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:90.142.52.139" title="User talk:90.142.52.139">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-90.142.52.139-20241031214100-Aladdin" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Stop edit warring at <a href="/wiki/Aladdin_(disambiguation)" class="mw-disambig" title="Aladdin (disambiguation)">Aladdin (disambiguation)</a>, 90.142.xx, or you will be blocked. <a href="/wiki/User:Bishonen" title="User:Bishonen">Bishonen</a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bishonen" title="User talk:Bishonen">tålk</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Bishonen-20241031220500-90.142.52.139-20241031214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a>.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Yes, I have replied at <a href="/wiki/Talk:Aladdin_(disambiguation)" title="Talk:Aladdin (disambiguation)">Talk:Aladdin (disambiguation)</a>. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241031220600-90.142.52.139-20241031214100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="TopPop" data-mw-thread-id="h-TopPop-20241102215400"><a href="/wiki/TopPop" title="TopPop">TopPop</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=56" title="Edit section: TopPop">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> What on earth were we doing, in 1974's UK, lapping up <a href="/wiki/BBC" title="BBC">Auntie's</a> <a href="/wiki/Top_of_the_Pops" title="Top of the Pops">Top of the Flops</a>, when there was real stuff going on, just across the <a href="/wiki/Radio_Caroline" title="Radio Caroline">North Sea</a>, in <a href="/wiki/Netherlands" title="Netherlands">the Land of Clogs and Windmills</a>, such as <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi85jfNGioY">gems like this</a>. Possibly <a href="/wiki/Thin_Lizzy" title="Thin Lizzy">their</a> finest ever rocker. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241102215400-TopPop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RIP_Quincy_Jones" data-mw-thread-id="h-RIP_Quincy_Jones-20241104190300">RIP <a href="/wiki/Quincy_Jones" title="Quincy Jones">Quincy Jones</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=57" title="Edit section: RIP Quincy Jones">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ndMMYhmi0">Timeless</a>. What a complete <a href="/wiki/Quincy_Jones" title="Quincy Jones">Delight</a>. Yeah, Baby! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241104190300-RIP_Quincy_Jones" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>What about the theme from <a href="/wiki/Ironside_(1967_TV_series)" title="Ironside (1967 TV series)">Ironside (1967 TV series)</a>? It's on a well known video website, but I won't link it here.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20241104191000-Martinevans123-20241104190300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Oh, yes!! Well, 95% timeless anyway... And I will link <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdXoDwGQT78">this version</a> as it's posted by Quincy Jones Productions and "Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group"... but, yeah, the actual theme is a real classic. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241104191800-Ianmacm-20241104191000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEcqHA7dbwM">Fly Me to the Moon</a> (Frank Sinatra's 1964 version) is arranged and conducted by Quincy Jones.--<a href="/wiki/User:Ianmacm" title="User:Ianmacm">♦IanMacM♦</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ianmacm" title="User talk:Ianmacm">(talk to me)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Ianmacm-20241105084300-Martinevans123-20241104191800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Some friendly advice, Ian: <a href="/wiki/Don%27t_Stop_%27Til_You_Get_Enough" title="Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough">Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough</a>. <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3qQtSRmHxo">Owww!!</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241105101700-Ianmacm-20241105084300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="November_music" data-mw-thread-id="h-November_music-20241104223300">November music</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=58" title="Edit section: November music">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1126788409"><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1257001546"><table class="infobox nowrap plainlist" style="width:auto; background-color:#ddd; border:5px solid #ddd; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);; border-radius:0.5em;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" class="infobox-image"><a href="/wiki/File:Apple_tree_in_field,_detail,_Ehrenbach.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/290px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg" decoding="async" width="290" height="218" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/435px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg/580px-Apple_tree_in_field%2C_detail%2C_Ehrenbach.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4000" data-file-height="3000"/></a></td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" class="infobox-header"><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Top" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Top">story</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#Music" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">music</a> · <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Places_and_songs_2024#9_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2024">places</a></th></tr></tbody></table> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#nov" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">memories</a> -- <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241104223300-November_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241105080600-Gerda_Arendt-20241104223300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Madrid - Freiheit (Freedom) to listen to in the story, - they changed it from Freude in 2022. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241105212600-Martinevans123-20241105080600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>For a surprise, <a href="/wiki/O_Ewigkeit,_du_Donnerwort,_BWV_60" title="O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60">a Bach cantata</a> is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:2024_open_letter_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation" title="Wikipedia:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation">open letter</a> open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241107203300-Martinevans123-20241105080600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Thanks, Gerda. No High Court in Delhi will ever get my real name! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241108090700-Gerda_Arendt-20241107203300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt/Stories#9_Nov" title="User:Gerda Arendt/Stories">Today's story</a> relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241109210500-Martinevans123-20241108090700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - <a href="/wiki/Madeleine_Riffaud" title="Madeleine Riffaud">Madeleine Riffaud</a> - <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt#remember" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">remember</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241111152600-Martinevans123-20241108090700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> Can you help referencing <a href="/wiki/Charles_Dumont_(singer)" title="Charles Dumont (singer)">Charles Dumont (singer)</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Gerda_Arendt-20241119142200-November_music" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello Gerda. I will try and have a look. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241119142500-Gerda_Arendt-20241119142200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_John_Cannan" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_John_Cannan-20241108015600">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/John_Cannan" title="John Cannan">John Cannan</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=59" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for John Cannan">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 8 November 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/John_Cannan" title="John Cannan">John Cannan</a>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Schwede66" title="User:Schwede66">Schwede</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Schwede66" title="User talk:Schwede66">66</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Schwede66-20241108015600-ITN_recognition_for_John_Cannan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Thanks Schwede66. Yes, grim. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241108090200-Schwede66-20241108015600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="End_of_an_era" data-mw-thread-id="h-End_of_an_era-20241111221700">End of an era</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=60" title="Edit section: End of an era">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237032888/mw-parser-output/.tmulti">.mw-parser-output .tmulti .multiimageinner{display:flex;flex-direction:column}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .trow{display:flex;flex-direction:row;clear:left;flex-wrap:wrap;width:100%;box-sizing:border-box}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .tsingle{margin:1px;float:left}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .theader{clear:both;font-weight:bold;text-align:center;align-self:center;background-color:transparent;width:100%}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .thumbcaption{background-color:transparent}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .text-align-left{text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .text-align-right{text-align:right}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .text-align-center{text-align:center}@media all and (max-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .tmulti .thumbinner{width:100%!important;box-sizing:border-box;max-width:none!important;align-items:center}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .trow{justify-content:center}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .tsingle{float:none!important;max-width:100%!important;box-sizing:border-box;text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .tsingle .thumbcaption{text-align:left}.mw-parser-output .tmulti .trow>.thumbcaption{text-align:center}}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .tmulti .multiimageinner img{background-color:white}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .tmulti .multiimageinner img{background-color:white}}</style><div class="thumb tmulti tright"><div class="thumbinner multiimageinner" style="width:242px;max-width:242px"><div class="trow"><div class="tsingle" style="width:89px;max-width:89px"><div class="thumbimage" style="height:111px;overflow:hidden"><a href="/wiki/File:Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg/87px-Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg" decoding="async" width="87" height="111" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg/131px-Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg/174px-Mickey_Mantle_-_New_York_Yankees_-_1957.jpg 2x" data-file-width="332" data-file-height="425"/></a></div></div><div class="tsingle" style="width:149px;max-width:149px"><div class="thumbimage" style="height:111px;overflow:hidden"><a href="/wiki/File:Prune.JPG" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Prune.JPG/147px-Prune.JPG" decoding="async" width="147" height="111" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Prune.JPG/221px-Prune.JPG 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Prune.JPG/294px-Prune.JPG 2x" data-file-width="500" data-file-height="377"/></a></div></div></div><div class="trow" style="display:flex"><div class="thumbcaption">Mantle with a plum. (Sorry for slipping you a Mickey.) --Tryptofish</div></div></div></div> So long <a href="/wiki/Gary_Lineker" title="Gary Lineker">the other Gazza</a>. Those <a href="/wiki/Walkers_(snack_foods)" title="Walkers (snack foods)">crisps</a> will never taste quite <a href="/wiki/No_Regrets_(Tom_Rush_song)" title="No Regrets (Tom Rush song)">the same</a>. And what would dear old Ron Manager say? <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4I1ye2gcEo">... "can you imagine"??</a> But I hear there's already someone waiting in the wings, ready for a <a href="/wiki/Justin_Welby" title="Justin Welby">new career</a>. Good on yer Justin, mate. Get in, I say!! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241111221700-End_of_an_era" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Mikey Mantles? Wasn't he one of those quarter-backs?? This just isn't <a href="/wiki/Thomas_Mantle" title="Thomas Mantle">cricket</a>, old chap. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241111224100-Martinevans123-20241111221700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:41, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Now, now, give the <a href="/wiki/Little_Mikey" title="Little Mikey">little guy</a> a break. --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20241111224400-Martinevans123-20241111224100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Phew! I knew this would resolve itself one way or <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcMeJGtXQAAywMM?format=jpg&name=small">the other</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241112212400-Tryptofish-20241111224400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Who's the guy in that photo? Trump's new Czar of the Separation of Church and State? --<a href="/wiki/User:Tryptofish" title="User:Tryptofish">Tryptofish</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tryptofish" title="User talk:Tryptofish">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tryptofish-20241112213700-Martinevans123-20241112212400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:37, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Well, almost. He's Sir Keir's new <a href="/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup" title="2026 FIFA World Cup">Anglican Inclusivity Czar</a>. *(Note: will oversee new <a href="/wiki/Mexican_Football_Federation" title="Mexican Football Federation">fan fencing arrangements</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241112215000-Tryptofish-20241112213700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>Will be working closely alongside: <dl><dd>The <a href="/wiki/Vladimir_Putin" title="Vladimir Putin">Bombing Ukraine Czar Czar</a>,</dd> <dd>The <a href="/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" title="Benjamin Netanyahu">Gaza Holocaust Czar</a> and</dd> <dd>The <a href="/wiki/Zsa_Zsa_Gabor" title="Zsa Zsa Gabor">Czar Czar Viktor Orbán</a>.</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> Very sorry to report that Sir Keir's search for a new <a href="/wiki/Pete_Hegseth" title="Pete Hegseth">Secretary of Defence</a> has produced no response from <a href="/wiki/Nigel_Farage" title="Nigel Farage">GB News</a>. So he's now looking at other <a href="/wiki/Gordon_the_Gopher" title="Gordon the Gopher">former TV presenters</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241113093500-End_of_an_era" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>John Healey is not going <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:You for Me and Me for You (page does not exist)">You for Me and Me for You</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:You for Me and Me for You (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You-20241114015200-Martinevans123-20241113093500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not going anywhere? He could manage a couple of days in <a href="/wiki/NATO_headquarters" title="NATO headquarters">Brussels</a>, surely? <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241114084800-You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You-20241114015200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I didn't say anywhere. Healey is not going, the implication being that he is not leaving his current position. Ok, jokes be bygone, you can do this, you know? But jokes have to be jokes and sometimes, you know, it's raining over there again, so it makes sense, right?</dd> <dd> </dd> <dd>Starmer should instead hire the late <a href="/wiki/Gregory_House" title="Gregory House">Dr. House</a> for a personality transplant. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:You for Me and Me for You (page does not exist)">You for Me and Me for You</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:You for Me and Me for You (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You-20241115222500-Martinevans123-20241114084800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sounds <a href="/wiki/Doctor_and_the_Medics" title="Doctor and the Medics">sensible</a>. What The Donald really needs is another <a href="/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr." title="Robert F. Kennedy Jr.">COVID pandemic</a>. That should sort out all those illegal aliens. <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrUoDdS8lBc">[15]</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241115224600-You_for_Me_and_Me_for_You-20241115222500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RIP_Roy_Haynes" data-mw-thread-id="h-RIP_Roy_Haynes-20241114221100">RIP Roy Haynes</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=61" title="Edit section: RIP Roy Haynes">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Roy Owen Haynes (March 13, 1925 – November 12, 2024): "He is considered to have been a pioneer of jazz drumming". From <a href="/wiki/We_Three_(jazz_album)" title="We Three (jazz album)">We Three</a> (1959): <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdYr1WCuIKw">"Reflection"</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241114221100-RIP_Roy_Haynes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wynne_Evans" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wynne_Evans-20241117111300"><a href="/wiki/Wynne_Evans" title="Wynne Evans">Wynne Evans</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=62" title="Edit section: Wynne Evans">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Thanks for lending a bit of time to remove <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">incorrect information</a> on the Wynne Evans article, especially as the results never get aired until later on Sundays. Yesterday I have taken away another bit of incorrect information on the current <a href="/wiki/Strictly_Come_Dancing_series_22" title="Strictly Come Dancing series 22">Strictly Come Dancing series 22</a> competition. Both IP addresses don't know the rules about citing or introducing factual errors as you noticed today. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iggy_the_Swan" title="Special:Contributions/Iggy the Swan">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117111300-Wynne_Evans" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, as usual, just an excited plot spoiler, I suspect. We all know it's a convenient fiction. I guess the BBC just has most <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> sources on trust. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241117114500-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117111300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a> p.s. I had no idea that <a href="/wiki/Paul_Anka" title="Paul Anka">Paul Anka</a> had done a version of "<a href="/wiki/Jump_(Van_Halen_song)" title="Jump (Van Halen song)">Jump</a>". We need more <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3iYamSxxI">AC/DC</a>!![<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Not the first time that's happened: an earlier <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Toyah_Willcox&diff=1249688768&oldid=1249614705">edit</a> was made before the results which turns out to be true in the end of 6 October. Usually it's non-famous audience members who edits before they are publicly aired on TV. And some other singers who done songs are not what other people expect either but as usual the article must be accurate with the sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iggy_the_Swan" title="Special:Contributions/Iggy the Swan">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117120900-Martinevans123-20241117114500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, I've seen in it many previous series. Always anon IP editors, as I recall. Given the huge interest and the size of the live audience (and production staff), I guess it's an <a href="/wiki/Open_secret" title="Open secret">open secret</a> on many social media platform, by about 9 pm on a Saturday night. I'm always a bit disappointed by the "in no particular order" results format. I know it's more polite, but I still want to go and see somewhere exactly how they ranked. That's what I pay my TV licence for!! I'm surprised the BBC is not <a href="/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_2000" title="Freedom of Information Act 2000">called to account</a>! <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241117121900-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117120900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>p.s. Cousin Wynne can be a bit <a href="/wiki/Toreador_Song" title="Toreador Song">bullish</a>. But let's face it, he did struggle with his <a href="/wiki/Charleston_(dance)" title="Charleston (dance)">swivel</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241117124300-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117120900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Turns out those IP edits I was referring to are correct as well even though I obviously said it was "incorrect information". About time I should actually avoid edit spying on Sundays until the competition is over. <a href="/wiki/User:Iggy_the_Swan" title="User:Iggy the Swan">Iggy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Iggy_the_Swan#top" title="User talk:Iggy the Swan">Swan</a>) (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Iggy_the_Swan" title="Special:Contributions/Iggy the Swan">Contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117220200-Martinevans123-20241117124300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Such a shame, as his dance off performance was much better! But still a bizarre choice of <a href="/wiki/Georges_Bizet" title="Georges Bizet">music</a> for a Charleston. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241117221800-Iggy_the_Swan-20241117220200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Kingdom_of_Wessex_ceased_to_exist_in_927" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Kingdom_of_Wessex_ceased_to_exist_in_927-20241117175900">The Kingdom of Wessex ceased to exist in 927</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=63" title="Edit section: The Kingdom of Wessex ceased to exist in 927">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I put this because politically, Wessex ceased to exist and annexed by the Kingdom of England in 927 when Æthelstan unified the petty English kingdoms into one political entity. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:The_writer_fixer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:The writer fixer (page does not exist)">The writer fixer</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_writer_fixer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:The writer fixer (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-The_writer_fixer-20241117175900-The_Kingdom_of_Wessex_ceased_to_exist_in_927" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Hello <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:The_writer_fixer&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:The writer fixer (page does not exist)">The writer fixer</a>. I see you are a new editor, I'm sure you're very welcome to make any necessary corrections. But if you do, you need to add some kind of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a> source(s) which support(s) your claims. If you don't mind, I'll copy this thread over to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Wessex" title="Talk:Wessex">Talk:Wessex</a>, where is better belongs. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241117180500-The_writer_fixer-20241117175900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Roy_Haynes" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Roy_Haynes-20241117225800">ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Roy_Haynes" title="Roy Haynes">Roy Haynes</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=64" title="Edit section: ITN recognition for Roy Haynes">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><a href="/wiki/File:Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/50px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/75px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg/100px-Ambox_current_red_Americas.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="360" data-file-height="290"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> On 17 November 2024, <a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a> was updated with an item that involved the article <a href="/wiki/Roy_Haynes" title="Roy Haynes">Roy Haynes</a>, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Spencer" title="User:Spencer">Spencer</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spencer" title="User talk:Spencer">T•</a><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spencer" title="Special:Contributions/Spencer">C</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Spencer-20241117225800-ITN_recognition_for_Roy_Haynes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <dl><dd>Many thanks, Spencer. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241118083900-Spencer-20241117225800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ACE_questions" data-mw-thread-id="h-ACE_questions-20241117231800">ACE questions</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=65" title="Edit section: ACE questions">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> Hello, Martinevans123, Thank you for your question. Could you do me a favor and sign your questions? I had to go into the page history to see who was asking about the Open Letter. Many thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Liz" title="User:Liz">Liz</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Liz" title="Special:Contributions/Liz">Read!</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Liz" title="User talk:Liz">Talk!</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Liz-20241117231800-ACE_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Sorry Liz, I'm obviously (still) confused about the format there, where the template doesn't show the need for any signature. I must have assumed it was automatically added. I did the same at Leekycauldron and it was autosigned as normal. (This Reply also gets autosigned, of course, so one gets out of the habit!) Many thanks for your fulsome answer. Not sure I have any more questions for you. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241118083400-Liz-20241117231800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message-20241119001200">ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message</h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=66" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #a2a9b1; background-color: #fdf2d5; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image noresize" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em;"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> Hello! Voting in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2024" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2024">2024 Arbitration Committee elections</a> is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2024#Election_timeline" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024">eligible users</a> are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119001200-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Charles_Dumont" data-mw-thread-id="h-Charles_Dumont-20241121210900"><a href="/wiki/Charles_Dumont_(singer)" title="Charles Dumont (singer)">Charles Dumont</a></h2>[<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&action=edit&section=67" title="Edit section: Charles Dumont">edit</a>]<div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> I think I have gone as far as I intend on this article, but noticed you recently reverted a middle name for Dumont. I earlier saw on the article's talk page that another editor posted 'Gaston' there, but again without a source. Funny/coincidental that two editors both came up with this. Is there any mileage in further investigation ? Blimey, where's Guy when you want him. Cheers. - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241121210900-Charles_Dumont" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:09, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a>: One source for the name "Charles Gaston Dumont" can be found in the Catalog of the German National Library, see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://d-nb.info/gnd/134578201">here.</a> –Best regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Tommy_Kronkvist" title="User:Tommy Kronkvist">Tommy Kronkvist</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tommy_Kronkvist" title="User talk:Tommy Kronkvist">talk</a>)‚ <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Tommy_Kronkvist-20241121212000-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241121210900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:20, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>.[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Are there any others, I wonder? If you have faith in that single source, Tommy, I guess you could restore. Perhaps <a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda</a> could judge its quality? But the "unlikely" in my edit summary sprang from the complete absence of that middle name at the fr:wiki article for <a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dumont_(chanteur)" class="extiw" title="fr:Charles Dumont (chanteur)">Charles Dumont</a>. Regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241121222300-Tommy_Kronkvist-20241121212000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd> <dd>I see there is another source <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.allformusic.fr/charles-dumont">here</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241124135500-Tommy_Kronkvist-20241121212000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:55, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>Yes, I see that the article has been edited using <a href="/wiki/The_Washington_Post" title="The Washington Post">The Washington Post</a> as a reference (probably either paywalled or blocked outside of the US). - <a href="/wiki/User:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User:Derek R Bullamore">Derek R Bullamore</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Derek_R_Bullamore" title="User talk:Derek R Bullamore">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241124141000-Martinevans123-20241124135500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>] <dl><dd>I registered an account, thinking there might be a free access period or area, but immediately got paywalled with a "limited time offer" of £15 annual subscription (full cost £60). I can't be bothered with the alternative of paying 99p every 4 weeks (full cost £6), so I think I'll just leave it. <a href="/wiki/User:Martinevans123" title="User:Martinevans123">Martinevans123</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martinevans123#c-Martinevans123-20241124145800-Derek_R_Bullamore-20241124141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)</a>[<a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a>]</dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&oldid=1259322514">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Martinevans123&oldid=1259322514</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-hidden-catlinks" class="mw-hidden-catlinks mw-hidden-cats-hidden">Hidden category: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Pages_using_multiple_image_with_auto_scaled_images" title="Category:Pages using multiple image with auto scaled images">Pages using multiple image with auto scaled images</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 24 November 2024, at 14:58 (UTC).</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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