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font-size:11.9px;"> <hr/> This page has archives. Sections older than <b>365 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span> when more than 4 sections are present.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD" data-mw-thread-id="h-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD-20231127032500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD-20231127032500"></span>Notice of minor change to Module:RfD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD-20231127032500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Notice of minor change to Module:RfD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wbm1058-20231127032500-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD"></span>I trust that <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187045802" title="Special:Diff/1187045802">this edit</a> to a template comment is not a breaking change. <a href="/wiki/User:Wbm1058" title="User:Wbm1058">wbm1058</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wbm1058" title="User talk:Wbm1058">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Wbm1058-20231127032500-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wbm1058-20231127032500-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wbm1058-20231127032500-Notice_of_minor_change_to_Module:RfD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20231127044800-Wbm1058-20231127032500"></span>Shouldn't do anything. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Headbomb-20231127044800-Wbm1058-20231127032500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20231127044800-Wbm1058-20231127032500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20231127044800-Wbm1058-20231127032500"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20231127223100-Wbm1058-20231127032500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Wbm1058" title="User:Wbm1058">Wbm1058</a>:</span> I can go further. Since the first letter of a page name is case-insensitive, not only does the change not break anything, it <i>cannot</i> break anything; and moreover is, other than the purely cosmetic change, completely pointless. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Redrose64-20231127223100-Wbm1058-20231127032500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20231127223100-Wbm1058-20231127032500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20231127223100-Wbm1058-20231127032500"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Wbm1058-20231128000600-Redrose64-20231127223100"></span>Redrose64</a>, no, not pointless, or I wouldn't have made the change. The MediaWiki system may be case insensitive regarding the first letter, because it's been coded to be that way. However, the Lua <a href="/wiki/Module:String" title="Module:String">Module:String</a> is not case-insensitive with regards to the first character of the string passed into it. I had to make <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1187043778" title="Special:Diff/1187043778">this edit</a> to get <a href="/wiki/Template:R_from_move/except" title="Template:R from move/except">Template:R from move/except</a> to behave the way I wanted it to. – <a href="/wiki/User:Wbm1058" title="User:Wbm1058">wbm1058</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Wbm1058" title="User talk:Wbm1058">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Wbm1058-20231128000600-Redrose64-20231127223100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Wbm1058-20231128000600-Redrose64-20231127223100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Wbm1058-20231128000600-Redrose64-20231127223100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates-20240202205300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates-20240202205300"></span>Proposed changes to RM templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates-20240202205300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Proposed changes to RM templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SilverLocust-20240202205300-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates"></span>Would it affect AAlertsBot if some requested moves had a new parameter after the title(s)? For example: </p><p><small> </small></p><small><hr/></small><small><p><b>Single-move RM</b> </p></small><small><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">requested move/dated</span><span class="p">|</span>NewTitle<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">protected</span><span class="o">=</span>yes<span class="p">}}</span> </pre></div></small><small><hr/></small><small><p><b>Multi-move RM</b> </p></small><small><div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">requested move/dated</span><span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">multiple</span><span class="o">=</span>yes<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">current1</span><span class="o">=</span>A<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">new1</span><span class="o">=</span>B<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">current2</span><span class="o">=</span>C<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">new2</span><span class="o">=</span>D<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">protected</span><span class="o">=</span>yes<span class="p">}}</span> </pre></div></small><small><hr/></small><small></small><p><small></small> </p><p>I have drafted some changes to <a href="/wiki/Module:Requested_move" title="Module:Requested move">Module:Requested move</a> and <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">Requested move/dated</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> so that {{<a href="/wiki/Template:RM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:RM">subst:RM</a>}} will automatically check current and proposed titles for page protection (admin or template-editor) and, if found, add a <code>|protected=</code> parameter to the resulting <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Requested_move/dated" title="Template:Requested move/dated">requested move/dated</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> in new requested moves. See <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Requested_move#Detecting_and_showing_page_protection" title="Template talk:Requested move">Template talk:Requested move#Detecting and showing page protection</a> for more info and sandbox links. </p><p>I did a small test to see if this would cause any issue with <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AAlertBot">AAlertBot</a></span> by adding <code>|protected=yes</code> to <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1201931546" title="Special:Diff/1201931546">one existing RM</a>. The <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1202218455" title="Special:Diff/1202218455">article alert</a> was added as usual. <a href="/wiki/User:SilverLocust" title="User:SilverLocust"><small style="color:#667;background:#fff;border:2px solid;border-radius:.4em;padding:0 .3em">SilverLocust</small></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SilverLocust" title="User talk:SilverLocust">💬</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-SilverLocust-20240202205300-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SilverLocust-20240202205300-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SilverLocust-20240202205300-Proposed_changes_to_RM_templates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240202213000-SilverLocust-20240202205300"></span>Thanks for mentioning this. It should not cause issues, no. When parsing templates, the bot generally looks for expected parameters and ignores everything else. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240202213000-SilverLocust-20240202205300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:30, 2 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240202213000-SilverLocust-20240202205300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240202213000-SilverLocust-20240202205300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Updating_the_bot" data-mw-thread-id="h-Updating_the_bot-20240406072100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Updating_the_bot-20240406072100"></span>Updating the bot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Updating_the_bot-20240406072100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Updating the bot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SafariScribe-20240406072100-Updating_the_bot"></span>I changed my name from <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Otu%E1%BB%8Dcha&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Otuọcha (page does not exist)">User:Otuọcha</a> to <a href="/wiki/User:SafariScribe" title="User:SafariScribe">User:SafariScribe</a>. I want it be updated in <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Nigeria" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Nigeria">WP:WikiProject Nigeria</a>. I did that <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Nigeria/Article_alerts&diff=prev&oldid=1217416882&diffonly=1">here</a> but was reverted by the bot obviously because it's not in the list. Pls update. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:SafariScribe" title="User:SafariScribe">Safari Scribe</a></span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SafariScribe" title="Special:Contributions/SafariScribe"><i><b>Edits!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SafariScribe" title="User talk:SafariScribe"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-SafariScribe-20240406072100-Updating_the_bot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SafariScribe-20240406072100-Updating_the_bot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SafariScribe-20240406072100-Updating_the_bot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240406091300-SafariScribe-20240406072100"></span>I set the pages your corrected above to re-retrieve on the next run. I'm not 100% sure it will do it correctly for closed pages, because this isn't really something the bot knows how to do. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240406091300-SafariScribe-20240406072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:13, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240406091300-SafariScribe-20240406072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240406091300-SafariScribe-20240406072100"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240406131200-SafariScribe-20240406072100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:SafariScribe" title="User:SafariScribe">SafariScribe</a>:</span> If a page is built by a bot (such as all of the Article Alerts reports) it's pointless editing them because on its next run the bot will always rebuild the page according to data that it retrieves from other pages. Therefore, you need to identify those other pages, amend those, and the bot will copy the information to the report on its next run. For example, the entry under Featured article candidates for Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie is built using info from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Chimamanda_Ngozi_Adichie/archive1" title="Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie/archive1">Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie/archive1</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Redrose64-20240406131200-SafariScribe-20240406072100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240406131200-SafariScribe-20240406072100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240406131200-SafariScribe-20240406072100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SafariScribe-20240406131600-Redrose64-20240406131200"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> Thanks for the advice. I really thought as much! <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;"><a href="/wiki/User:SafariScribe" title="User:SafariScribe">Safari Scribe</a></span><sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;"><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/SafariScribe" title="Special:Contributions/SafariScribe"><i><b>Edits!</b></i></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:SafariScribe" title="User talk:SafariScribe"><i><b>Talk!</b></i></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-SafariScribe-20240406131600-Redrose64-20240406131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SafariScribe-20240406131600-Redrose64-20240406131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SafariScribe-20240406131600-Redrose64-20240406131200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240406134900-Redrose64-20240406131200"></span>"<i>the bot will copy the information to the report on its next run</i>" For Article Alerts, this is true only for data that the bot is going to re-retrieve. It doesn't recheck pages it has already seen if their status doesn't change and content isn't normally expected to change. For example, once an article is in AfD and the bot reads the nominator's information, it won't try to read it again - the nominator is "never" going to change. This is also because there would be many, many more pages to check each run and 99.9% of the time it's redundant. And it gets more and more expensive for things like revision history. Rarely, there is a bug or someone screws up a process and some pages have wrong data. More often, re-retrieving data actually breaks due to things like vandalism or conflicts with later process changes. So the bot will only re-retrieve pages if specifically prompted by <a href="/wiki/User:AAlertBot/RegetPages" title="User:AAlertBot/RegetPages">User:AAlertBot/RegetPages</a>. And pages that are closed can no longer retrieve some information at all. In archives, however, old entries won't be changed at all - so one can manually replace things there. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240406134900-Redrose64-20240406131200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240406134900-Redrose64-20240406131200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240406134900-Redrose64-20240406131200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024-20240412095300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024-20240412095300"></span>AAlertBot has not updated pages since 9 April 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024-20240412095300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: AAlertBot has not updated pages since 9 April 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cunard-20240412095300-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span>According to <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AAlertBot" title="Special:Contributions/AAlertBot">Special:Contributions/AAlertBot</a>, the bot has not updated alert pages since 9 April 2024. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Cunard-20240412095300-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cunard-20240412095300-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cunard-20240412095300-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span> </p><p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240412111500-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240412111500-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240412111500-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240412111500-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GiantSnowman-20240412165300-Hellknowz-20240412111500"></span>I came here to flag this as well... <a href="/wiki/User:GiantSnowman" title="User:GiantSnowman">Giant</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman" title="User talk:GiantSnowman">Snowman</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-GiantSnowman-20240412165300-Hellknowz-20240412111500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GiantSnowman-20240412165300-Hellknowz-20240412111500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GiantSnowman-20240412165300-Hellknowz-20240412111500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240412184100-GiantSnowman-20240412165300"></span>Right, I got overwhelmed at work. I'll get on it. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Headbomb-20240412184100-GiantSnowman-20240412165300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240412184100-GiantSnowman-20240412165300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240412184100-GiantSnowman-20240412165300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cunard-20240413050800-Headbomb-20240412184100"></span>Thank you for fixing the bot! <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Cunard&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Cunard (page does not exist)">Cunard</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cunard" title="User talk:Cunard">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Cunard-20240413050800-Headbomb-20240412184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cunard-20240413050800-Headbomb-20240412184100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cunard-20240413050800-Headbomb-20240412184100"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joy-20240413074200-Headbomb-20240412184100"></span>Thanks guys. Is there any web location where the diagnostics output of the bot could be seen, so maybe it would encourage others to submit bug fixes? --<a href="/wiki/User:Joy" title="User:Joy">Joy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joy" title="User talk:Joy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Joy-20240413074200-Headbomb-20240412184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joy-20240413074200-Headbomb-20240412184100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joy-20240413074200-Headbomb-20240412184100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240413143600-Joy-20240413074200"></span>There are internal log files, but they contain a massive amount of info and aren't online. There is <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Log" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts/Log">Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Log</a> mostly for on-Wiki things that may or may not need fixing. The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Status" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts/Status">Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Status</a> page is where the active run is "recorded". Of course, if the bot crashes in some other way or can't post to wiki, there wouldn't be anything to see. I'm not sure what caused this run to fail (Headbomb would need to send me the log), but it was before it started processing and thus probably a network error. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240413143600-Joy-20240413074200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240413143600-Joy-20240413074200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240413143600-Joy-20240413074200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240413155800-Hellknowz-20240413143600"></span>Indeed this is likely a network error due a pending update on windows or somesuch. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Headbomb-20240413155800-Hellknowz-20240413143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240413155800-Hellknowz-20240413143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240413155800-Hellknowz-20240413143600"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Joy-20240414112200-Hellknowz-20240413143600"></span>Would be nice if the code and the logs were made available, so we don't run into a <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://xkcd.com/2347/">https://xkcd.com/2347/</a> situation :) --<a href="/wiki/User:Joy" title="User:Joy">Joy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Joy" title="User talk:Joy">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Joy-20240414112200-Hellknowz-20240413143600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Joy-20240414112200-Hellknowz-20240413143600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Joy-20240414112200-Hellknowz-20240413143600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240414120000-Joy-20240414112200"></span>Yes, there's a pretty big <a href="/wiki/Bus_factor" title="Bus factor">bus factor</a> here. That said, Headbomb does have the full code. And the code is "full" full, that is, the entire bot can be run with that code and doesn't really require anything you couldn't easily install. I have also been meaning to move towards open-sourcing it, but it needs several major things changed for that and I don't have that much time. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240414120000-Joy-20240414112200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240414120000-Joy-20240414112200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240414120000-Joy-20240414112200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Thryduulf-20240516114900-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span>The bot does not appear to have run today. <a href="/wiki/User:Thryduulf" title="User:Thryduulf">Thryduulf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Thryduulf" title="User talk:Thryduulf">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Thryduulf-20240516114900-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Thryduulf-20240516114900-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Thryduulf-20240516114900-AAlertBot_has_not_updated_pages_since_9_April_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240516190800-Thryduulf-20240516114900"></span>Thanks. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a>:</span> No log page edit, so it crashed early/before doing anything? — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240516190800-Thryduulf-20240516114900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240516190800-Thryduulf-20240516114900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240516190800-Thryduulf-20240516114900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20240516211900-Hellknowz-20240516190800"></span>Power shortage during the night I think. I'll run now. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Headbomb-20240516211900-Hellknowz-20240516190800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20240516211900-Hellknowz-20240516190800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20240516211900-Hellknowz-20240516190800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts-20240506075200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts-20240506075200"></span>Question about why an article is showing up on alerts<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts-20240506075200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Question about why an article is showing up on alerts"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts"></span>Hello, I was curious if anyone could tell me why <a href="/wiki/History_of_Wahhabism" title="History of Wahhabism">History of Wahhabism</a> is showing up on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countries/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Article alerts</a>. The page doesn't seem to have the WPCountries template or Infobox country, which are the two items included in the alert. Some items from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Former_countries/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries/Article alerts</a> also end up on the Countries page, but it doesn't seem to have that banner either. Thanks very much, <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200-Question_about_why_an_article_is_showing_up_on_alerts"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240506090700-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200"></span>It is because it has an <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Infobox_country" title="Template:Infobox country">Infobox country</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> in <a href="/wiki/History_of_Wahhabism#Formation_of_Kingdom_of_Saudi_Arabia" title="History of Wahhabism">History_of_Wahhabism#Formation_of_Kingdom_of_Saudi_Arabia</a>. (This isn't great, because infoboxes generally represent the subject and it helps catch articles that are likely missing otherwise. Granted, this is not likely true for countries infobox, because all are likely accounted for.) I suppose same is true for former countries looking at couple examples. Perhaps the subscription doesn't need the infobox? — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240506090700-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:07, 6 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240506090700-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240506090700-Chipmunkdavis-20240506075200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240517022700-Hellknowz-20240506090700"></span>Thanks, I've never seen Infobox country that truncated so I didn't recognise it. <a href="/wiki/User:Chipmunkdavis" title="User:Chipmunkdavis">CMD</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Chipmunkdavis" title="User talk:Chipmunkdavis">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Chipmunkdavis-20240517022700-Hellknowz-20240506090700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240517022700-Hellknowz-20240506090700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Chipmunkdavis-20240517022700-Hellknowz-20240506090700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_alerts_since_30_June_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024-20240702120200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024-20240702120200"></span>No alerts since 30 June 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024-20240702120200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: No alerts since 30 June 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mackensen-20240702120200-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> bot status shows as crashed. <a href="/wiki/User:Mackensen" title="User:Mackensen">Mackensen</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mackensen" title="User talk:Mackensen">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Mackensen-20240702120200-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mackensen-20240702120200-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mackensen-20240702120200-No_alerts_since_30_June_2024"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?-20240817142400"><span id="Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?-20240817142400"></span>Is <a href="/wiki/Template:GTCmain" title="Template:GTCmain">Template:GTCmain</a> still used?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?-20240817142400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Is Template:GTCmain still used?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Template:GTCmain" title="Template:GTCmain"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240817142400-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?"></span>Template:GTCmain</a> has no documentation and no transclusions. Is it still used, if it was ever used? If it is no longer used, I plan to send it to TFD. Thanks. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Jonesey95-20240817142400-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240817142400-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240817142400-Is_Template:GTCmain_still_used?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20240817171700-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span>Seems like no one has written any doc. According to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_and_good_topic_candidates/Nomination_procedure" title="Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Nomination procedure">Wikipedia:Featured_and_good_topic_candidates/Nomination_procedure</a>, GTCmain is used. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amazon-class_frigate_(1795)&diff=prev&oldid=1237740223">Here</a> is an example of it being used recently. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20240817171700-Jonesey95-20240817142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20240817171700-Jonesey95-20240817142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20240817171700-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240817180200-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a>:</span> Have you asked at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_topics" title="Wikipedia talk:Featured topics">Wikipedia talk:Featured topics</a>, that being the talk page for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_topics" title="Wikipedia:Good topics">Wikipedia:Good topics</a>? --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Redrose64-20240817180200-Jonesey95-20240817142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 17 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240817180200-Jonesey95-20240817142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240817180200-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240818015200-Redrose64-20240817180200"></span>I had not, since the template's documentation says to post here, but I have done so now. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Jonesey95-20240818015200-Redrose64-20240817180200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240818015200-Redrose64-20240817180200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240818015200-Redrose64-20240817180200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240818104700-Jonesey95-20240818015200"></span>The doc has a boilerplate message from <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Bot_use_warning" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts/Bot use warning">Wikipedia:Article alerts/Bot use warning</a>, which isn't intended to mean that this is the primary point of discussion, but that this page should be informed when a discussion occurs elsewhere concerning changes to the template. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Redrose64-20240818104700-Jonesey95-20240818015200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240818104700-Jonesey95-20240818015200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240818104700-Jonesey95-20240818015200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Aza24-20240818054500-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span>Hi, saw your post at WP:FT; yes it is still used. Since HellKnowz already gave an example and reason, what else are you looking for? Its only used during an active GT nomination, of which there are sometimes many and sometimes none. Currently there are none (there's a supplementary nomination, but that's seperate). <b><span style="font-family:Lucida;"><a href="/wiki/User:Aza24" title="User:Aza24"><span style="color:darkred">Aza24</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Aza24" title="User talk:Aza24"><span style="color:#848484"> (talk)</span></a></span></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Aza24-20240818054500-Jonesey95-20240817142400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Aza24-20240818054500-Jonesey95-20240817142400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Aza24-20240818054500-Jonesey95-20240817142400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240818135400-Aza24-20240818054500"></span>Thanks for the responses. Some basic documentation would be helpful. What do the parameters do? A link to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Featured_topics" title="Wikipedia talk:Featured topics">Wikipedia talk:Featured topics</a> would apparently be helpful. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Jonesey95-20240818135400-Aza24-20240818054500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240818135400-Aza24-20240818054500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240818135400-Aza24-20240818054500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Vital_articles_bug?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Vital_articles_bug?-20241031182500"><span id="Vital_articles_bug.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Vital_articles_bug?-20241031182500"></span>Vital articles bug?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Vital_articles_bug?-20241031182500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Vital articles bug?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241031182500-Vital_articles_bug?"></span>Since October 17, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts">alerts for vital articles</a> have not been being added, which makes me suspect there is some bug/error. Does anyone know what's happening? <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Sdkb-20241031182500-Vital_articles_bug?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241031182500-Vital_articles_bug?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241031182500-Vital_articles_bug?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Headbomb-20241031185700-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span>Something about vital-articles must have changed. See also <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JL-Bot#Vital_articles_reports_empty" title="User talk:JL-Bot">User_talk:JL-Bot#Vital_articles_reports_empty</a></dd></dl></dd> <dd> <span style="font-variant:small-caps; whitespace:nowrap;"><a href="/wiki/User:Headbomb" title="User:Headbomb">Headbomb</a> {<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Headbomb" title="User talk:Headbomb">t</a> · <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Headbomb" title="Special:Contributions/Headbomb">c</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PHYS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PHYS">p</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WBOOKS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:WBOOKS">b</a>}</span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Headbomb-20241031185700-Sdkb-20241031182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Headbomb-20241031185700-Sdkb-20241031182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Headbomb-20241031185700-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JLaTondre-20241105232700-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span>It was likely <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles#Categories" title="Wikipedia talk:Vital articles">this change</a> based on the date. -- <a href="/wiki/User:JLaTondre" title="User:JLaTondre">JLaTondre</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:JLaTondre#top" title="User talk:JLaTondre">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-JLaTondre-20241105232700-Sdkb-20241031182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JLaTondre-20241105232700-Sdkb-20241031182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JLaTondre-20241105232700-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241106190600-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span>It seems that there is no single category with all vital articles or a category with all articles in its subcategories. They are instead in sub-subcategories, i.e. <a href="/wiki/Category:Vital_articles_by_level_by_quality" title="Category:Vital articles by level by quality">Category:Vital articles by level by quality</a> has <a href="/wiki/Category:Level-1_vital_articles_by_quality" title="Category:Level-1 vital articles by quality">Category:Level-1 vital articles by quality</a> which has <a href="/wiki/Category:FA-Class_level-1_vital_articles" title="Category:FA-Class level-1 vital articles">Category:FA-Class level-1 vital articles</a>, which has pages. And similar to other "top" categories. Unfortunately, the bot cannot do more than one level of subcategory parsing (which by itself is a workaround for projects that don't have a banner or place all their articles in a single category). To fix this, I would need to implement recursive category scanned, so I can't really fix this for now. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241106190600-Sdkb-20241031182500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241106190600-Sdkb-20241031182500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241106190600-Sdkb-20241031182500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241106205200-Hellknowz-20241106190600"></span>Courtesy pinging @<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a>. Can we roll back whatever change has caused this until we address the issue? <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Sdkb-20241106205200-Hellknowz-20241106190600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241106205200-Hellknowz-20241106190600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241106205200-Hellknowz-20241106190600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241106211300-Sdkb-20241106205200"></span>And is there a reason we can't just have an additional <a href="/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_vital_articles" title="Category:All Wikipedia vital articles">Category:All Wikipedia vital articles</a> with all pages? — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241106211300-Sdkb-20241106205200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241106211300-Sdkb-20241106205200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241106211300-Sdkb-20241106205200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241106211700-Hellknowz-20241106211300"></span>According to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Subscription_list" title="Wikipedia:Article alerts/Subscription list">the subscription list</a>, the main VA alerts only goes down to level 3. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Sdkb-20241106211700-Hellknowz-20241106211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241106211700-Hellknowz-20241106211300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241106211700-Hellknowz-20241106211300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-Sdkb-20241106211700"></span>I assume the main subscription at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts</a> wants <i>all</i> articles regardless of level? This is the problematic entry as far as I understand. Then there are 3 more subscriptions for levels 1, 2 and 3. I believe I can handle those with (1 level deep) subcategories, e.g. level 3 would use <a href="/wiki/Category:Level-3_vital_articles_by_quality" title="Category:Level-3 vital articles by quality">Category:Level-3_vital_articles_by_quality</a> and collect from the 7 subcategories. These are probably fixable straight away. But I believe you are the one who added these subscriptions? So I guess whatever list you need/want to be included. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-Sdkb-20241106211700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-Sdkb-20241106211700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-Sdkb-20241106211700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241106225800-Hellknowz-20241106221300"></span>Article alerts for all five levels would be overwhelming, as there are 50,000 articles by level 5. I believe when I implemented it that level 3 created the right balance. Whatever functionality we had is the functionality that should be restored — it's on those who made breaking changes to figure out what was impacted and fix that. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Sdkb-20241106225800-Hellknowz-20241106221300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241106225800-Hellknowz-20241106221300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241106225800-Hellknowz-20241106221300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241106231800-Sdkb-20241106225800"></span>But didn't <a href="/wiki/Category:Vital_articles_by_quality" title="Category:Vital articles by quality">Category:Vital articles by quality</a> have subcategories that directly in total contained <i>all</i> pages before? Was it intended only up to level 3? That is what <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts</a> was subscribed to. Take for example <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts&oldid=1250738890">October 12</a> and <a href="/wiki/Katy_Perry" title="Katy Perry">Katy Perry</a> - that's a level 5. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241106231800-Sdkb-20241106225800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241106231800-Sdkb-20241106225800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241106231800-Sdkb-20241106225800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sdkb-20241107184200-Hellknowz-20241106231800"></span>Perhaps I'm misremembering, then. It appears there were also multiple alert lists. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)"><a href="/wiki/User:Sdkb" title="User:Sdkb"><span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span></a></span> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sdkb" title="User talk:Sdkb"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Sdkb-20241107184200-Hellknowz-20241106231800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sdkb-20241107184200-Hellknowz-20241106231800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sdkb-20241107184200-Hellknowz-20241106231800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-Sdkb-20241107184200"></span>Alerts are running again for <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts</a> (all), <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts</a> (L3), <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/4/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Article alerts</a> (L4) and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Article alerts</a> (L5). I wonder if it would make sense to have <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts</a> changed to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/3/Article_alerts" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/3/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/3/Article alerts</a> for consistency? — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-Sdkb-20241107184200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-Sdkb-20241107184200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-Sdkb-20241107184200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241110140300-Hellknowz-20241110102500"></span>Yes please, moving to /Level/3/ would be a good change. It obviously got missed when we created the landing page at the base page. Then perhaps the "all" list could move to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Article_alerts" title="Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts">Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts</a>? — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-MSGJ-20241110140300-Hellknowz-20241110102500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241110140300-Hellknowz-20241110102500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241110140300-Hellknowz-20241110102500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241106215600-Hellknowz-20241106211300"></span>That would not be a problem to implement. Do you want it for all vital articles or just levels 1, 2 and 3? — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-MSGJ-20241106215600-Hellknowz-20241106211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241106215600-Hellknowz-20241106211300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241106215600-Hellknowz-20241106211300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-MSGJ-20241106215600"></span>As far as I understand, just the category for <i>all</i> pages. But see clarification above in case I misunderstand. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-MSGJ-20241106215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-MSGJ-20241106215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241106221300-MSGJ-20241106215600"></span></dd> <dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241108134300-MSGJ-20241106215600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a>:</span> Can you please undelete the <a href="/wiki/Category:All_Wikipedia_vital_articles" title="Category:All Wikipedia vital articles">Category:All Wikipedia vital articles</a> category and set it to be directly populated by all vital articles? — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241108134300-MSGJ-20241106215600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241108134300-MSGJ-20241106215600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241108134300-MSGJ-20241106215600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241108151900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"></span>Yes. This will need a change to <a href="/wiki/Module:Banner_shell" title="Module:Banner shell">Module:Banner shell</a> which I will do at next sync — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-MSGJ-20241108151900-Hellknowz-20241108134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241108151900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241108151900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MSGJ-20241109212900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/18px-Yes_check.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/27px-Yes_check.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/36px-Yes_check.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></span></span><b> Done</b></span> — Martin <small>(<a href="/wiki/User:MSGJ" title="User:MSGJ">MSGJ</a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:MSGJ" title="User talk:MSGJ">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-MSGJ-20241109212900-Hellknowz-20241108134300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MSGJ-20241109212900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MSGJ-20241109212900-Hellknowz-20241108134300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-MSGJ-20241109212900"></span>Thanks. — <small> <a href="/wiki/User:Hellknowz" title="User:Hellknowz"><span style="color: #B00;">HELL</span>KNOWZ</a> <b>∣</b> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Hellknowz" title="User talk:Hellknowz">TALK</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-MSGJ-20241109212900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-MSGJ-20241109212900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Hellknowz-20241110102500-MSGJ-20241109212900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&oldid=1256808924">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts&oldid=1256808924</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks" data-mw="interface"><div id="mw-normal-catlinks" class="mw-normal-catlinks"><a href="/wiki/Help:Category" title="Help:Category">Category</a>: <ul><li><a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_article_alerts" title="Category:Wikipedia article alerts">Wikipedia article alerts</a></li></ul></div></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 11 November 2024, at 17:51<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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