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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080311033145/http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/author/ldownes/" title="Posts by Lawrence Downes">Lawrence Downes</a></span></p> </div> <div class="post-content"> <p>Donald Trump — who likes getting his way, and his name on things — could be handed a setback on both scores. He hasn’t been getting anywhere in his plan to build an enormous catering hall bearing the Trump brand at Jones Beach State Park. </p> <p>This week, a state code-enforcement panel rejected his request for a variance to build a 26,000-square-foot basement kitchen for his seaside palace, which he calls Trump on the Ocean. New York does not allow basements to be built in a flood plain, unless they are used just for storage.</p> <p>At the same meeting where Mr. Trump lost the vote, his plan was denounced by dozens of Long Islanders who said it was too big, too exclusive, too Trumped-up for Jones Beach, which is one of the grandest, loveliest — and most charmingly understated — public spaces in all the Empire State.</p> <p>The dozens of Long Islanders are right. </p> <p>To be fair to Mr. Trump, he does have a deal, which he signed in 2006, when Bernadette Castro was parks commissioner under Gov. George Pataki. </p> <p>It certainly is sweet for Mr. Trump: the term is 40 years, long enough for your nephew to have both his bar mitzvah <em>and </em>his 25th wedding anniversary there, and it calls for Mr. Trump to pay the state only $200,000 a year, plus a percentage of sales revenues, though never more than 5 percent. That is a pittance for exclusive control of the only catering hall on six miles of some of the most spectacular beachfront property on the East Coast, or anywhere.</p> <p>New York State is finally doing what it should have done under Mr. Pataki: putting this deal under a microscope, with lots of public input, to make sure that Mr. Trump is not allowed to deface or exploit a public treasure. He has repeatedly clashed with state officials over the permits, variances and environmental rules that would keep his ambitions and ego in check. He has been grumbling over things like how big he could make the “TRUMP” on the side of his building — he wanted the letters bigger than the state allows, of course — and now that basement.</p> <p>Park officials should hold firm against Mr. Trump’s bluster and bluffing and make sure that whatever is built becomes an asset for all the people of New York, not just another branding opportunity for the often-shameless Mr. Trump and a strut-your-tux spot for the $300-a-plate, Cadillac-S.U.V. crowd.</p> <p>What? You do not share this skepticism? </p> <p>Then go to <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080311033145/http://trumpontheocean.com/">trumpontheocean.com</a>. Watch as the letters of his name rise from the waves, like some golden temple of Atlantis. Click on the video. Who is that lovely young woman running along Jones Beach in a tiara, chandelier earrings and sexy beaded gown? </p> <p>Is it New York State’s Parks Commissioner, Carol Ash?</p> <p>No, silly, it’s Miss USA 2007, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080311033145/http://www.missusa.com/missusa/year-picts/09.25.07.html">Rachel Smith</a>, pouting and prancing through the surf for her boss, Mr. Trump, who owns the pageant and is always up for some not-so-subtle cross-marketing. </p> <p>When Ms. Castro announced the Trump deal in the waning days of the Pataki administration, she said it was “like a gift from God.” </p> <p>The implication was that God had looked upon the grandeur of His handiwork — the vast ocean, sand, wind, sun, grass and soaring gulls — and said: “Yeah, this is fine, but what it really needs is a place for some awesome, blowout wedding receptions. I wonder if Trump is available?”</p> <p>Note to readers: Mr. Trump is not God. Nor is he Robert Moses, who, for all his many flaws and lordly ways, built what he built for the regular people of New York. Jones Beach is perhaps his greatest achievement. It is a magnificent public park, and should stay that way.</p> </div> <div class="post-tools"> <ul id="post-tools-189"> <li class="comments-tool"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20080311033145/http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/07/donald-trump-goes-to-the-beach/#comments" class="post-comment" title="Comment on Donald Trump Goes to the Beach">Comments (15)</a></li> <li class="email-tool"> <form method="post" name="emailThis_189" id="emailThis_189" style="display: inline;" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" action="https://web.archive.org/web/20080311033145/http://www.nytimes.com/mem/emailthis.html"> <input type="hidden" name="type" value="1"/> <input type="hidden" name="url" value="http%3A%2F%2Ftheboard.blogs.nytimes.com%2F2008%2F03%2F07%2Fdonald-trump-goes-to-the-beach%2F"/> <input type="hidden" name="title" value="The%20Board%3A%20Donald%20Trump%20Goes%20to%20the%20Beach"/> <input type="hidden" name="full_text" 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Jones Beach should be left as is for the enjoyment of all.<br/> Long Islander </p> <p><cite>— Posted by rvcig </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-33917"> <div class="index">2.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 8th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-33917" title="">9:36 am</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Putting aside your last comment regarding Robert Moses and building Jones Beach for the “regular” people, I tend to agree with what you said that us “regular” New Yorkers deserve something special rather than the “$300 a plate Cadillac crowd.”</p> <p>When I first read about the deal I was extremely disappointed because it also involved Mr. Carl. “For sure,” I said to myself, “no regular person would be able to afford a catered affair there.” I remember being married at Nassau County’s Eisenhower Park almost 30 years ago and having a beautiful affair that didn’t cost my parents a king’s ransom. When I was looking to cater an affair years later, I turned to Eisenhower Park which was now being catered by the same Steven Carl. I was appalled at how expensive the place was compared to similar halls here on the Island. While I’m sure Mr. Carl has added a touch of class to Eisenhower Park, I certainly wouldn’t be able to appreciate it because it’s cost is out of my ballpark.</p> <p>While Robert Moses did keep some “regular” people from enjoying Jones Beach, I will say in his defense that he created a magnificent jewel where none existed beforehand. Mr. Trump now has an opportunity in front of him, similar to the one he had in Central Park with the renovation of the Wollman Rink. Will he rise to the occasion like he did so long ago, or will his petulance stand in the way? He surely now has his name on enough trophies, that I think he should start thinking more about his legacy instead. </p> <p><cite>— Posted by voracious reader </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-33919"> <div class="index">3.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 8th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-33919" title="">9:46 am</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Personally, the biggest problem I have with Trump is sharing the planet. Get he go to a different one? </p> <p><cite>— Posted by anna </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34023"> <div class="index">4.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 8th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34023" title="">9:37 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Jones Beach is New York’s best kept secret.<br/> It is a haven of beauty and tranquility for the huddled masses who have quite enough stress and commercialism in their lives as it is. It is a place for families to bring their children on the week-end, for teenagers to congregate to swim and play volleyball and for seniors to enjoy a peaceful stroll on the boardwalk, year round.<br/> Trump with his vulgar glitzy wedding emporium has no place here and is not welcome. Keep the protests and the obstacles coming….and send him packing - “to the moon” - preferably one in another solar system. </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Ann NY </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34066"> <div class="index">5.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 9th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34066" title="">5:41 am</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>I have spent hours composing an email to all in my address book, describing the situation at Jones Beach and detailing examples of Trump’s NYC history to help understand why he is the wrong developer for JB. I am asking them to take action to stop this hubris threatening to ruin a precious jewel of a park, part of our public trust. NO TO MR TRUMP. Not everything is for sale. It is up to us to take responsibility to make sure the authorities in control of the decision hear from enough of us, loudly and clearly, as to how we appreciate Jones Beach for the “haven for all” that it is and to not destroy that access with thinly veiled privatization schemes, selling off public leases for a measly pittance to a business which would deny access to all but those with lots of money to burn. This is an example of the two-tiered apartheid system that is infesting our country’s economy. And, once we lose it, it’s gone, to the highest bidder. We don’t have to accept lack of vision…We can find a creative way to economically preserve Jones Beach for generations to come, and do it with respect for it’s inherent simple beauty. Thank you for listening and taking action. The time is now to speak up. </p> <p><cite>— Posted by mlp </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34082"> <div class="index">6.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 9th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34082" title="">7:30 am</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Wie is die TRUMP?<br/> Die ou met die WIERD Hair-do? </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Jennie Black </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34125"> <div class="index">7.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 9th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34125" title="">12:45 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Donald Trump never ceases to disgust and humiliate the general public. His arrogance is totally unprecedented. He exemplifies the worst in new found wealth, nameley his inability to handle it. He projects a misleading, false image implying that getting rich is easy and anyone can do it. The reality is that he was born into wealth. His father Fred Trump was an excellent developer. To his credit the elder Trump built numerous housing developments in Brooklyn and Queens for moderate income people during the 1950’s & 60’s. It was Fred, not his arrogant, petulant son Donald who made the Trump fortune. It is long overdue that the son pick up where the father left off. It is no secret that the tri-state New York area lacks affordable housing for middle & working class people. As is, the Trumps own half of Queens. What more do they need? </p> <p><cite>— Posted by mfk </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34169"> <div class="index">8.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 9th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34169" title="">7:04 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Reading Donald’s personal message at trumpontheocean.com is a trip:</p> <p>“Trump on the Ocean is my very special gift to you … breathtaking … spectacular … stunning … sumptuously appointed … a place where dreams are realized, both for your clients and for you … sophisticated … world-class … stunning … top tier … reach out to Gary at 516.221.TRUMP and make sure and tell him Donald told you to call!”</p> <p>It’s good knowing we can park the helicopter on the roof, but where can we buy a hot dog and soda? </p> <p><cite>— Posted by JB in NYC </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34328"> <div class="index">9.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34328" title="">12:57 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>If Trump is allowed to build this monstrosity it will totally negate the original reasons for developing Jones Beach. I hope New York continues to scrutinize the project with the intent to protect that gorgeous “people’s beach”.</p> <p>When I was a child my mother and brother and I almost every summer evening would pick up my dad at the train station and head out to Jones Beach for a picnic supper and late day swim. My brother and I worked there during our college summers. I even became engaged there.</p> <p>I never was able to afford the restaurant but I have happy memories of the wonderful garlicky hot dogs, the pool and bath house, dating the lifeguards, the kids that we met at the various parking lots, roller skating, dancing, the Boardwalk and all the other inexpensive amenities a lower income family could afford back in the ’50s.</p> <p>I no longer live on the Island but Jones Beach will always have a special place in my memories. I have brought my grandchildren there. Trump has already put his name on too many buildings. Shame on Pataki and Bernadette Castro. </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Former Long Islander </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34338"> <div class="index">10.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34338" title="">1:34 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>It is hard not to agree with your position opposing “The Donald’s” arrogance or his wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing gift to Jones Beach. But Donald Trump is an easy mark, who’s strutting and self aggrandizing behavior allows The Board to distinguish his deals from other equally cozy arrangements the Times Editorial Board has favored.<br/> I don’t care how he combs his hair or how he poses for the press. I do care that any real estate deal is arranged without public review or participation, that the finances are not transparently scrutinized before hand and that the wonders of New York, our coast or our communities, are squandered. </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Stuart Pertz, FAIA </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34349"> <div class="index">11.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34349" title="">3:10 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>I drive along this “gift from God” almost every day and it does not need ‘trumping’ from a bee-stung lipped, bad comb-over ego-maniac!</p> <p>Posted by Elaine Hill </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Elaine Hill </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34350"> <div class="index">12.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34350" title="">3:12 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>I was raised on Long Island, and my fondest memories are of those hot summer days when we motored out to Jones Beach to enjoy what I now know was so special. We enjoyed the “Song of Norway” at the theater, and walking the beach and the playgrounds was a joy on sunny winter days. Must everything be changed into the tawdry and tasteless? I think those days are still relished by those of us who can’t or don’t want to afford the so-called improvements of modern day life. As for Trump, he strikes me as a present day version of Marie Antoinette-”Let them Eat cake…” You know the story! </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Lil Gluckstern </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34354"> <div class="index">13.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34354" title="">4:03 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Why all the fuss? Give him what he wants with conditions: 1. Prices for the hall should never exceed those of the local Elks Hall or similar establishments. 2. Commit to keeping the beach clean and in fresh sand in perpetuity. 3. Build boardwalks and bandstands that offer free participitation by families and their children. 4. Pay annually $2,000.00 per square foot for the comprehensive property and donate all of that money to educating New York children of families under the poverty level. 5. Keep any sign or evidence of ownership by Trump under 12 inches in height wherever in the complex it might be displayed, inside or outside. Donald is a good business person. He will always go for a deal. What the public has to do is strike hard bargains…like he does. If the terms are not acceptable to him, he may, thankfully, walk away and go to another place where the public won’t be as demanding…like Mars (not the moon).</p> <p>George Gaglini </p> <p><cite>— Posted by George </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34356"> <div class="index">14.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34356" title="">4:11 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Good grief! As a guy, now 75, who grew up in Forest Hills in the 30s and 40s, Jones Beach was a gem and a gift. I haven’t been there in almost 60 years, and eventually the beaches of Nantucket replaced it for me, year round for a five year period. Nantucket, as have many choice places, changed significantly during the last three decades. My feeling, however, for the beauty of both Jones Beach and Nantucket is undiminished. What saddens me is the irrepressible and unapologetic force which those with unlimited wealth can bring to bear. I don’t know the details of Mr. Trump’s proposed deal with New York. I do know that Nantucket Island has managed to preserve enough of its simple beauty, for now at least, to<br/> encourage middle income people to continue to visit. They need to bring a lot of money, but what they get is seldom garish. Is anything that Donald Trump develops not somehow vulgar? Just asking.</p> <p>Reed in Marblehead, MA </p> <p><cite>— Posted by Reed Cutting </cite></p> </div> </li> <li class="clearfix" id="comment-34375"> <div class="index">15.</div> <div class="commentmetadata"> March 10th,<br> 2008<br> <a href="#comment-34375" title="">7:09 pm</a> </div> <div class="comment"> <p>Profits from a single event will more than sufficiently cover Trump’s annual rent to NYS. 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