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Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_December_27#"Musican"_Redirects" title="Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 27">Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 27 § "Musican" Redirects</a></b> until a consensus is reached. <a href="/wiki/User:Someone-123-321" title="User:Someone-123-321">User:Someone-123-321</a> (I <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Someone-123-321" title="Special:Contributions/Someone-123-321">contribute</a>, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Someone-123-321" title="User talk:Someone-123-321">Talk page so SineBot will shut up</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Someone-123-321-20241227123600-Redirect_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Someone-123-321-20241227123600-Redirect_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Someone-123-321-20241227123600-Redirect_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pakistan_utility-bill_sites" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites-20250204085600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites-20250204085600"></span>Pakistan utility-bill sites<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites-20250204085600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Pakistan utility-bill sites"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DMacks-20250204085600-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites"></span>Feel free to ping me...I'm defaulting to prompt multi-week blocks for any IPs and insta-indef for any accounts spamming them (examples: <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading/Spam_links" title="User:John of Reading/Spam links">User:John of Reading/Spam links</a>). <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-DMacks-20250204085600-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:56, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DMacks-20250204085600-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DMacks-20250204085600-Pakistan_utility-bill_sites"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204090400-DMacks-20250204085600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>:</span> Yes, this has been going on for too long. I wonder if we could add <code>esco\w{0,5}bil{0,5}\.pk\b</code> to the spam blacklist? That would block all domains containing "esco" then "bil" and ending with ".pk". I'd have to run a big scan first to see if there are false positives. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250204090400-DMacks-20250204085600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204090400-DMacks-20250204085600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250204090400-DMacks-20250204085600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DMacks-20250204091600-John_of_Reading-20250204090400"></span>I'd support that. Could feed it to XLinkBot first, to help track what's being caught. <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-DMacks-20250204091600-John_of_Reading-20250204090400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:16, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DMacks-20250204091600-John_of_Reading-20250204090400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DMacks-20250204091600-John_of_Reading-20250204090400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204093500-DMacks-20250204091600"></span>I don't see any false matches in the most recent database dump. I scanned for <code>\bhttps?://[^ ]*esco.{0,5}bil.{0.5}\.pk\b</code> -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250204093500-DMacks-20250204091600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204093500-DMacks-20250204091600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250204093500-DMacks-20250204091600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DMacks-20250204100500-John_of_Reading-20250204093500"></span>Clever way to check! <a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DMacks" title="User talk:DMacks">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-DMacks-20250204100500-John_of_Reading-20250204093500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DMacks-20250204100500-John_of_Reading-20250204093500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DMacks-20250204100500-John_of_Reading-20250204093500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204124200-DMacks-20250204100500"></span>Several of the links have "epco" not "esco", so I did another scan for those. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250204124200-DMacks-20250204100500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250204124200-DMacks-20250204100500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250204124200-DMacks-20250204100500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="outdent-template" style="position:relative;left:1px;"><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-bottom:1px solid #a2a9b1;border-right:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span><span style="display:block;width:16em;height:0.5em;border-left:1px solid #a2a9b1;"></span></div> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250206172400-DMacks-20250204085600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DMacks" title="User:DMacks">DMacks</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1274292426" title="Special:Diff/1274292426">Special:Diff/1274292426</a>. Yet another domain. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250206172400-DMacks-20250204085600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:24, 6 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250206172400-DMacks-20250204085600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250206172400-DMacks-20250204085600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Batch" data-mw-thread-id="h-Batch-20250212114800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Batch-20250212114800"></span>Batch<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Batch-20250212114800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Batch"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20250212114800-Batch"></span>Are you ready for another batch? <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20250212114800-Batch" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:48, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20250212114800-Batch"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20250212114800-Batch"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250212115000-Polygnotus-20250212114800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a>:</span> Not yet. Thanks to your previous work, I have so many new regular expressions to try out that it will be four to six months before I'm ready for another batch. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250212115000-Polygnotus-20250212114800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250212115000-Polygnotus-20250212114800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250212115000-Polygnotus-20250212114800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20250212115900-John_of_Reading-20250212115000"></span>You actually inspired me so I added the option to export the lists to AWB settings.xml format. <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Polygnotus&target=Polygnotus&offset=20250212112702&limit=400">example</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20250212115900-John_of_Reading-20250212115000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:59, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20250212115900-John_of_Reading-20250212115000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20250212115900-John_of_Reading-20250212115000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250212120100-Polygnotus-20250212115900"></span>That looks very efficient! -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250212120100-Polygnotus-20250212115900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:01, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250212120100-Polygnotus-20250212115900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250212120100-Polygnotus-20250212115900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Polygnotus-20250212132000-John_of_Reading-20250212120100"></span>If you are <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Polygnotus/john&action=raw">curious</a>. Remember to back up your AWB settings.xml first! <a href="/wiki/User:Polygnotus" title="User:Polygnotus">Polygnotus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Polygnotus" title="User talk:Polygnotus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Polygnotus-20250212132000-John_of_Reading-20250212120100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:20, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Polygnotus-20250212132000-John_of_Reading-20250212120100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Polygnotus-20250212132000-John_of_Reading-20250212120100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Thank_you" data-mw-thread-id="h-Thank_you-20250214165600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Thank_you-20250214165600"></span>Thank you<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Thank_you-20250214165600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Thank you"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rodney_Baggins-20250214165600-Thank_you"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/33px-Tournesol.png" decoding="async" width="33" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/50px-Tournesol.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Tournesol.png/66px-Tournesol.png 2x" data-file-width="488" data-file-height="493" /></span></span> Thanks for helping me. That Twinkle thing has been driving me nuts!! <a href="/wiki/User:Rodney_Baggins" title="User:Rodney Baggins"><b style="font-family:cursive;color:#0c92a4">Rodney Baggins</b></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rodney_Baggins" title="User talk:Rodney Baggins"><b style="font-family:cursive;background:#0c92a4;color:white;border-radius:6px">.talk.</b></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-Rodney_Baggins-20250214165600-Thank_you" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rodney_Baggins-20250214165600-Thank_you"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rodney_Baggins-20250214165600-Thank_you"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="John_Sterett_Gittings" data-mw-thread-id="h-John_Sterett_Gittings-20250227000600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-John_Sterett_Gittings-20250227000600"></span>John Sterett Gittings<span data-mw-comment-end="h-John_Sterett_Gittings-20250227000600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: John Sterett Gittings"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DH85868993-20250227000600-John_Sterett_Gittings"></span>Hi John of Reading. I noticed your edit summary at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_reports/Unbelievable_life_spans" title="Wikipedia:Database reports/Unbelievable life spans">Wikipedia:Database reports/Unbelievable life spans</a> re the Gittings family. I think <a href="/wiki/John_Sterett_Gittings" class="mw-disambig" title="John Sterett Gittings">John Sterett Gittings</a> should be changed to a disambiguation page and redirects should be created for each of the John Sterett Gittingses, (e.g. <a href="/w/index.php?title=John_Sterett_Gittings_(born_1798)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="John Sterett Gittings (born 1798) (page does not exist)">John Sterett Gittings (born 1798)</a>) and the relevant year of birth/death categories should be applied to each of the redirects (and current links to <a href="/wiki/John_Sterett_Gittings" class="mw-disambig" title="John Sterett Gittings">John Sterett Gittings</a> should be updated appropriately). What do you think? <a href="/wiki/User:DH85868993" title="User:DH85868993">DH85868993</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DH85868993" title="User talk:DH85868993">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-DH85868993-20250227000600-John_Sterett_Gittings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DH85868993-20250227000600-John_Sterett_Gittings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DH85868993-20250227000600-John_Sterett_Gittings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227074200-DH85868993-20250227000600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:DH85868993" title="User:DH85868993">DH85868993</a>:</span> That would work for me! I looked round the redirect and disambiguation help pages without seeing anything relevant. Let's ping <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/GreenC" title="Special:Contributions/GreenC">contribs</a>) before making any change, though. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250227074200-DH85868993-20250227000600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227074200-DH85868993-20250227000600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250227074200-DH85868993-20250227000600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20250227175600-John_Sterett_Gittings"></span>Honestly I was confused what to do in this situation. I agree with the solution it's good. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-GreenC-20250227175600-John_Sterett_Gittings" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20250227175600-John_Sterett_Gittings"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20250227175600-John_Sterett_Gittings"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180200-GreenC-20250227175600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>:</span> Let's see if I can do this correctly. -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250227180200-GreenC-20250227175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:02, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180200-GreenC-20250227175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180200-GreenC-20250227175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20250227180400-John_of_Reading-20250227180200"></span>Oh I just created the dab page and was going to ask what you thought. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-GreenC-20250227180400-John_of_Reading-20250227180200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:04, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20250227180400-John_of_Reading-20250227180200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20250227180400-John_of_Reading-20250227180200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180700-GreenC-20250227180400"></span>Oh, yes, over to you then. No problem! -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250227180700-GreenC-20250227180400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:07, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180700-GreenC-20250227180400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250227180700-GreenC-20250227180400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20250227183600-John_of_Reading-20250227180700"></span>Invariably I always get something wrong with dab pages. I notice <a href="/wiki/User:DH85868993" title="User:DH85868993">User:DH85868993</a> has the dab "(born 1798)" whereas I used "(1798-1879)". Otherwise it would look like: <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=John_Sterett_Gittings_(born_1798)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="John Sterett Gittings (born 1798) (page does not exist)">John Sterett Gittings (born 1798)</a> (1798-1879), Baltimore banker</li></ul></dd> <dd>Might use <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=John_Sterett_Gittings_(banker)&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="John Sterett Gittings (banker) (page does not exist)">John Sterett Gittings (banker)</a> (1798-1879), Baltimore banker</li></ul></dd> <dd>But his grandson of the same name is also a banker. So I settled on the full birth-death as the disambiguation. <ul><li><a href="/wiki/John_Sterett_Gittings_(1798-1879)" class="mw-redirect" title="John Sterett Gittings (1798-1879)">John Sterett Gittings (1798-1879)</a>, Baltimore banker</li></ul></dd> <dd>-- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-GreenC-20250227183600-John_of_Reading-20250227180700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:36, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20250227183600-John_of_Reading-20250227180700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20250227183600-John_of_Reading-20250227180700"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227184100-GreenC-20250227183600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC">GreenC</a>:</span> I've created the three redirects that were red links on the new dab page, and, hopefully, have correctly fixed all the articles that linked there. I hope that's all we need to do for now? -- <a href="/wiki/User:John_of_Reading" title="User:John of Reading">John of Reading</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-John_of_Reading-20250227184100-GreenC-20250227183600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-John_of_Reading-20250227184100-GreenC-20250227183600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-John_of_Reading-20250227184100-GreenC-20250227183600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20250227184300-John_of_Reading-20250227184100"></span>Looks OK, thanks. I'll work on updating the backlinks. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-GreenC-20250227184300-John_of_Reading-20250227184100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20250227184300-John_of_Reading-20250227184100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20250227184300-John_of_Reading-20250227184100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GreenC-20250227184400-GreenC-20250227184300"></span>Oh you got that also, thanks much. -- <a href="/wiki/User:GreenC" title="User:GreenC"><span style="color: #006A4E;"><b>Green</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GreenC" title="User talk:GreenC"><span style="color: #093;"><b>C</b></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-GreenC-20250227184400-GreenC-20250227184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:44, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GreenC-20250227184400-GreenC-20250227184300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GreenC-20250227184400-GreenC-20250227184300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DH85868993-20250227204100-GreenC-20250227184400"></span>Great work, team! <a href="/wiki/User:DH85868993" title="User:DH85868993">DH85868993</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DH85868993" title="User talk:DH85868993">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:John_of_Reading#c-DH85868993-20250227204100-GreenC-20250227184400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DH85868993-20250227204100-GreenC-20250227184400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DH85868993-20250227204100-GreenC-20250227184400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?useformat=desktop&type=1x1&usesul3=0" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&oldid=1277977894">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_of_Reading&oldid=1277977894</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 27 February 2025, at 20:42<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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