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<table class="wikitable" style="margin-bottom: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="background: #CCC; color: #666;">submitted </td> <td style="background: #CCC; color: #666;">verification </td> <td style="border: 2px solid #000; font-weight: bold;">final decision </td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="wikitable" style="width: 100%; margin-top: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 0; vertical-align: top; width: 50px;"> <p><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Process-stop.svg/50px-Process-stop.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Process-stop.svg/75px-Process-stop.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Process-stop.svg/100px-Process-stop.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> </p> </td> <td style="border: 0;"><strong style="font-size: large;">This proposal has been rejected.</strong><br/>This decision was taken by the <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/language_committee" title="Special:MyLanguage/language committee">language committee</a> in accordance with the <a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Language_proposal_policy" title="Special:MyLanguage/Language proposal policy">Language proposal policy</a> based on the discussion on this page.<p>A committee member provided the following comment:</p> <div style="margin-left: 2em; font-style: italic;">There is no ISO 639-3 code for this language currently (see the comment of Philip J). --<small><a href="/wiki/User:MF-Warburg" title="User:MF-Warburg">MF-W</a></small> <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-MF-Warburg-2013-07-10T17:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:45, 10 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MF-Warburg-2013-07-10T17:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MF-Warburg-2013-07-10T17:45:00.000Z"></span></div> </td></tr></tbody></table> </div> <ul><li>The community needs to develop an <strong><a href="https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/zh-th" class="extiw" title="incubator:Wp/zh-th">active test project</a></strong>; it must remain active until approval (<a class="external text" href="https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=wp/zh-th&wiki=incubatorwiki">automated statistics</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&testwiki=wp/zh-th&limit=250&days=30">recent changes</a>). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.</li> <li>The community needs to complete required MediaWiki <b>interface translations</b> in that language (<a href="/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Language_proposal_policy#Requisites" title="Special:MyLanguage/Language proposal policy">about localization</a>, <a href="https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:zh-th" class="extiw" title="translatewiki:Portal:zh-th">translatewiki</a>, <a href="https://iw.toolforge.org/codelookup/zh-th" class="extiw" title="toolforge:codelookup/zh-th">check completion</a>).</li> <li>The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:</li></ul> <table class="wikitable" style="margin-bottom: 0; width: 100%; font-style: italic;"> <tbody><tr> <th style="width: 15%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">What </th> <th style="width: 35%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">Value </th> <th style="width: 50%; background-color: #E2E9F3;">Example / Explanation </th></tr></tbody></table> <table class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="margin-top: 0; width: 100%; margin-bottom: 0;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3">Proposal </th></tr> <tr> <td style="width: 15%;">Language code </td> <td style="width: 35%;">zh-th (<a href="https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/chi" class="extiw" title="iso639-3:chi">SIL</a>, <a href="https://glottolog.org/glottolog?iso=chi" class="extiw" title="glottolog:chi">Glottolog</a>) </td> <td style="width: 50%;">A valid ISO <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-1" class="extiw" title="en:ISO 639-1">639-1</a> or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_639-3" class="extiw" title="en:ISO 639-3">639-3</a> language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ... </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language name</td> <td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_Hokkien_language" class="extiw" title="en:Taiwanese Hokkien language">Taiwanese Hokkien</a></td> <td>Language name in English </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language name</td> <td><i>臺灣話</i></td> <td>Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on <a href="/wiki/Special:Preferences" title="Special:Preferences">Special:Preferences</a>, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ... </td></tr> <tr> <td>Language Wikidata item</td> <td> </td> <td>Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed. </td></tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_system#Directionality" class="extiw" title="en:Writing system">Directionality</a></td> <td>no indication</td> <td>Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)? </td></tr> <tr style="display: none;"> <td>Links</td> <td></td> <td>Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents. </td></tr> <tr class="plainlinks"> <td>Site URL</td> <td><a class="external text" href="https://zh-th.wikipedia.org">zh-th.wikipedia.org</a></td> <td>langcode.wikiproject.org </td></tr></tbody></table> <p><ins id="Settings"></ins> </p> <table class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="margin-top: 0; width: 100%;"> <tbody><tr> <th colspan="3">Settings </th></tr> <tr> <td style="width: 15%;">Project name </td> <td style="width: 35%;">維基百科 </td> <td style="width: 50%;">"Wikipedia" in your language </td></tr> <tr> <td>Project namespace</td> <td></td> <td>usually the same as the project name </td></tr> <tr> <td>Project talk namespace</td> <td></td> <td>"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace) </td></tr> <tr> <td>Enable uploads</td> <td>yes</td> <td>Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/" class="extiw" title="commons:">Commons</a>.<br/><div style="font-size: 86%;">If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").<br/>Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an <a href="/wiki/EDP" class="mw-redirect" title="EDP">Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP)</a> first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (<a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:POL" class="extiw" title="commons:COM:POL">more info</a>). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.</div> </td></tr> <tr> <th colspan="3"><small>Optional settings</small> </th></tr> <tr> <td>Project logo</td> <td><a href="/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-taiwanese_hokkien.png" title="File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-taiwanese hokkien.png">File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-taiwanese hokkien.png</a></td> <td>This needs to be an SVG image (<a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks/Word_mark_creation" class="extiw" title="wmf:Wikimedia official marks/Word mark creation">instructions for logo creation</a>). </td></tr> <tr> <td>Default project timezone</td> <td>Taipei</td> <td>"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones" class="extiw" title="en:List of tz database time zones">list of valid timezones</a>) </td></tr> <tr> <td>Additional namespaces </td> <td> </td> <td>For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk". </td></tr> <tr> <td>Additional settings </td> <td> </td> <td>Anything else that should be set </td></tr> <tr> <td style="font-size: 80%; display: none;" colspan="3">Once settings are finalized, a committee member will <a class="external text" href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/91/?projects=Wiki-Setup-Create,Wikimedia-Language-setup&title=Create+Wikipedia+Taiwanese+Hokkien&description=The+language+committee+has+approved+the+creation+of+Wikipedia+Taiwanese+Hokkien.%0A%0A-+%2A%2ARequest+page%3A%2A%2A+https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien%0A-+%2A%2ALanguage+code%3A%2A%2A+zh-th%0A-+%2A%2ASite+URL%3A%2A%2A+zh-th.wikipedia.org%0A-+%2A%2ADirectionality%3A%2A%2A+%7B%7B%7Bdirectionality%7D%7D%7D%0A-+%2A%2AProject+name%3A%2A%2A+%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%0A-+%2A%2AProject+name+%28English%29%3A%2A%2A+Taiwanese+Hokkien+Wikipedia%0A-+%2A%2AProject+namespace%3A%2A%2A+%0A-+%2A%2AProject+talk+namespace%3A%2A%2A+%0A-+%2A%2AVisibility%3A%2A%2A+Public%0A-+%2A%2AProject+logo%3A%2A%2A+https%3A%2F%2Fcommons.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AWikipedia-logo-v2-taiwanese+hokkien.png%0A-+%2A%2ATimezone%3A%2A%2A+Taipei%0A%0A-+%2A%2AShard%3A%2A%2A+s5%0A-+%2A%2ALocal+file+uploads%3A%2A%2A+enabled%0A%0AThank+you.">submit a Phabricator task</a> requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above. </td></tr></tbody></table> <hr style="margin-bottom: 1em; height: 2px;"/> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Proposal" data-mw-thread-id="h-Proposal"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Proposal"></span>Proposal<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Proposal"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Proposal"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p>This Wikipedia is written using a combination of traditional chinese Han and Bopomofo characters. I feel that "Taiwanese Hokkien" is actually separate dialect to "Standard Min Nan" such as at "Min Nan Wikipedia", in grammar and in writing. Because up until the 20th century, chinese was written in the literary language, which was uniformly read and understood by all literate chinese speakers of all dialects. </p><p>維基百科現有閩南語版本<a class="external autonumber" href="https://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A2u-ia%CC%8Dh">[1]</a> ，但全為拼音文字，多半中老年人可能難已讀懂 </p><p>因此想根據中華民國教育部公布之台語用字，建立一個全由文字系統表達之台語版維基百科。 </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://twblg.dict.edu.tw/holodict_new/index.html">http://twblg.dict.edu.tw/holodict_new/index.html</a> </p><p><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="http://163.26.125.99/dyjh/ml/ml/3-1-7.pdf">http://163.26.125.99/dyjh/ml/ml/3-1-7.pdf</a> </p><p>目前台語有1500萬<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-1"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>1<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>使用，大部分都以漢字為書寫系統。台語是中華民國教育部於小學母語課程之課綱之一，且皆以文字漢字為書寫系統，有別於現有的閩南語版本<a class="external autonumber" href="https://zh-min-nan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%A2u-ia%CC%8Dh">[2]</a>。 </p><p>根據統計，有73%的<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan" class="extiw" title="en:Taiwan">臺灣</a>民眾，會使用台語<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference"><a href="#cite_note-2"><span class="cite-bracket">[</span>2<span class="cite-bracket">]</span></a></sup>。台灣話迄今仍為台灣第一大<a href="/w/index.php?title=%E6%AF%8D%E8%AA%9E&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="母語 (page does not exist)">母語</a>、及使用量第一的語言。 </p><p>由於音調差異、詞彙差異，因此台灣話族已成為能夠獨立出來的一個方言。 </p> <ul><li>English:</li></ul> <p>Taiwanese Hokkien is the home language of almost 15.000.000 in Taiwan.Taiwanese Hokkien is the Hokkien dialect of Min Nan as spoken by about 73% of the population of Taiwan </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z"></span>Discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <ol><li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2569875-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Support</b> - 此票為自薦票。"台灣話"是一門獨立而又優秀的語言，並且它的受眾也很廣，亦非常典雅美妙，完全可以成立台灣話维基百科。According to <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.glossika.com/en/dict/research/mutint/minnan.php">Glossika</a>, Hokkien has an overall 73% of mutual intelligibility with the Taiwan dialect. (This can be contrasted with the Galician language having an 85% intelligibility with the Portuguese language <a class="external autonumber" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_language#Classification">[3]</a>)--<a href="/wiki/User:A2569875" title="User:A2569875">宇帆</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A2569875" title="User talk:A2569875">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-A2569875-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:04, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2569875-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2569875-2013-05-05T13:04:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DannyChan-2013-05-05T13:09:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Support</b> - I think Taiwanese Hokkien <b>NOT</b> Southern Min.<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:DannyChan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:DannyChan (page does not exist)">DannyChan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DannyChan" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:DannyChan">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-DannyChan-2013-05-05T13:09:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:09, 5 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DannyChan-2013-05-05T13:09:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DannyChan-2013-05-05T13:09:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_oppose_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Symbol_oppose_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_oppose_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Oppose</b> Vague proposal with no active test project. – <a href="/wiki/User:Kaihsu" title="User:Kaihsu">Kaihsu</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kaihsu" title="User talk:Kaihsu">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:01, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z-Discussion"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:10:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"></span>How to test project?--<a href="/wiki/User:A2569875" title="User:A2569875">宇帆</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A2569875" title="User talk:A2569875">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:10:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:10:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:10:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"></span></li> <li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:27:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"></span>可以直接測試嗎?要用甚麼語言代碼?--<a href="/wiki/User:A2569875" title="User:A2569875">宇帆</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:A2569875" title="User talk:A2569875">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:27:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:27, 7 May 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:27:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-A2569875-2013-05-07T13:27:00.000Z-Kaihsu-2013-05-07T11:01:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li> <li><b><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-S205643-2013-06-06T03:30:00.000Z-Discussion"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Symbol_support_vote.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/15px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png" decoding="async" width="15" height="15" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/23px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/30px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="180" data-file-height="185"/></a></span> Support</b> - I strongly hope that the project of Taiwanese Hokkien can one day be realized, and I support writing our language in Chinese characters and ㄅㄆㄇㄈ characters. Now, the education of primary schools in Taiwan teach students Taiwanese Hokkien in Chinese characters.<a href="/wiki/User:S205643" class="mw-redirect" title="User:S205643">S205643</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:S205643" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:S205643">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-S205643-2013-06-06T03:30:00.000Z-Discussion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-S205643-2013-06-06T03:30:00.000Z-Discussion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-S205643-2013-06-06T03:30:00.000Z-Discussion"></span></li></ol> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Comments" data-mw-thread-id="h-Comments-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Comments-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z"></span>Comments<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Comments-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Comments"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Philip_J-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z-Comments"></span>"<code> zh-th </code>" is <b>not</b> a valid ISO code (see <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/codes.asp">full list of ISO codes</a>). Taiwanese Hokkien does not currently have an ISO code since it is currently classified as part of "<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ethnologue.com/language/nan">Minnan</a>". </p><p>The proposers of Taiwanese Hokkien will need to first submit a <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Types">Request for Change to ISO 639-3 Language Code</a> proposal to SIL International to <u>retire</u> the existing <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ethnologue.com/language/nan">Minnan language</a> ISO code by classifying it as a Macrolanguage. </p><p>Secondly, the proposers of Taiwanese Hokkien will need to submit proposals to split the Minnan Macrolanguage into <a href="/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Teochew#Request_to_split_the_Min-nan_macro-language_into_seven_languages" title="Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Teochew">All of its existing varieties</a>, ie. Hokkien Minnan, Teochew Minnan, Hainanese Minnan, Leizhou Minnan, Zhenan Minnan, Hailufeng Minnan, Longyan Minnan, Taiwanese Minnan.....and so on. New ISO codes will need to be assigned to each and one of them. This can be done by completing the <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Types">Request for New Language Code Element in ISO 639-3</a>, then <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/default.asp#contact">emailing</a> the applications to SIL International. --<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Philip_J&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Philip J (page does not exist)">Philip J</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Philip_J" title="User talk:Philip J">talk</a>) <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien#c-Philip_J-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z-Comments" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Philip_J-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z-Comments"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Philip_J-2013-07-07T02:55:00.000Z-Comments"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="References" data-mw-thread-id="h-References"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-References"></span>References<span data-mw-comment-end="h-References"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwanese_Hokkien&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: References"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <div class="reflist" style="list-style-type: decimal;"> <div class="mw-references-wrap"><ol class="references"> <li id="cite_note-1"><span class="mw-cite-backlink"><a href="#cite_ref-1">↑</a></span> <span class="reference-text"><cite class="citation web"><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="http://www.ethnologue.com/14/show_country.asp?name=Taiwan">"Languages of Taiwan - Ethnologue 14"</a> (in 英語).</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%3ARequests+for+new+languages%2FWikipedia+Taiwanese+Hokkien&rft.btitle=Languages+of+Taiwan+-+Ethnologue+14&rft.genre=book&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ethnologue.com%2F14%2Fshow_country.asp%3Fname%3DTaiwan&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook" class="Z3988"><span style="display:none;"> </span></span> <span style="font-size:100%" class="error citation-comment">Unknown parameter <code style="color:inherit; 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