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"Equal representation", galactic sized delusion....... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The reason for 2 senators is because of the deals made back in the day when the founding fathers first reformed our government trying to get the new constitution formed. Its really interesting to dig into what was going on back then, you will find its not that much different today honestly.<br /> <br /> Basically, The larger states wanted representation based on capita, smaller states did not want to be dominated by larger states so neither would agree on the reform that was going on at the time.<br /> <br /> In order to get enough states to ratify the constitution they all finally agreed on limiting the Senate to 2 per state like smaller states wanted and the House of Representatives would be based on population like the larger states wanted. This way both had some say in the direction of the country.<br /> <br /> Personally, I think this is still a good idea today same as it was back then.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-10T12:06:10-0800" data-time="1731269170" data-date-string="Nov 10, 2024" data-time-string="12:06 PM" title="Nov 10, 2024 at 12:06 PM" itemprop="dateModified">Nov 10, 2024</time> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article 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bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1457138" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1457138">danadak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Majority rule promised but not delivered. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Nobody EVER promised "Majority Rule" for the US Presidential elections (read the constitution).. The only people who thought that they were promised majority rule are those who <br /> - didn't pay attention in high school civics class, or <br /> - were easily convinced by Facebookers and TicTokers that a non-existent promise was broken or <br /> - have some unexplainable need to feel cheated because their lack of success cannot possibly be their own fault.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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The only people who thought that they were promised majority rule are those who<br /> - didn't pay attention in high school civics class, or<br /> - were easily convinced by Facebookers and TicTokers that a non-existent promise was broken or<br /> - have some unexplainable need to feel cheated because their lack of success cannot possibly be their own fault. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I gather your aspirations are for dictatorships and the like, plenty of nations on the planet for you<br /> to embrace.<br /> <br /> The US, long before TicTack and Facebook, has achieved increasing control by the people. Many setbacks<br /> but incrementally progress. Many successes, many failures, but always seeking Democratic principles.<br /> <br /> Broad statements like "Nobody...", "lack of success", have the ring of empty omnipotence in oneself.<br /> <br /> The X amendment seems to convey powers not defined in a limited Constitution, a simple doc describing<br /> organizing principles, are the peoples daily bread and rights.<br /> <br /> I for one hope the Constitution is modified to place ALL people, including the Orange Orang, under<br /> US laws, no special treatment for self anointed emperor.<br /> <br /> Lastly time to incorporate a weapons clause in it, that citizens indeed may have weapons, black powder<br /> single shot Musket, and that to have one has to belong to a Militia and participate in Marching exercises<br /> weekly. Lest we forget Red Felt uniforms should be order of the day.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T03:44:10-0800" data-time="1731325450" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="3:44 AM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 3:44 AM" itemprop="dateModified">Nov 11, 2024</time> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="2" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList is-active"> <ul class="reactionSummary"> <li><span class="reaction reaction--small reaction--1" data-reaction-id="1"><i aria-hidden="true"></i><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" 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<div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I gather your aspirations are for dictatorships and the like, plenty of nations on the planet for you<br /> to embrace.<br /> <br /> The US, long before TicTack and Facebook, has achieved increasing control by the people. Many setbacks<br /> but incrementally progress. Many successes, many failures, but always seeking Democratic principles.<br /> <br /> Broad statements like "Nobody...", "lack of success", have the ring of empty omnipotence in oneself.<br /> <br /> The X amendment seems to convey powers not defined in a limited Constitution, a simple doc describing<br /> organizing principles, are the peoples daily bread and rights.<br /> <br /> I for one hope the Constitution is modified to place ALL people, including the Orange Orang, under<br /> US laws, no special treatment for self anointed emperor.<br /> <br /> Lastly time to incorporate a weapons clause in it, that citizens indeed may have weapons, black powder<br /> single shot Musket, and that to have one has to belong to a Militia and participate in Marching exercises<br /> weekly. Lest we forget Red Felt uniforms should be order of the day. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You completely misconstrued my comment. Read the constitution. The process for electing a president are well defined. The slight modification to "majority rules" is the prototype of what this country is built upon - compromise. Look back and you'll see that without the current electoral college format, the southern states wouldn't have joined the new country. The founding fathers, mostly from the north, ultimately agreed. It was important to them to have the resources, and size to make the new country successful. They designed a Republic, not a pure democracy. Nowhere in the constitution does the presidential election process promise "majority rule". <br /> <br /> Think of me what you want, but name-calling is comical if you don't know my politics. For you to be offended by all three of my options of who wouldn't know that our constitution doesn't promise "majority rule" is quite large of you. Please don't project yourself into other categories simply to feel more offended. Just find yourself in the list. <br /> <br /> One category I purposely omitted (because most here are older), but many of our younger citizens haven't even been taught simple high school civics to understand when the green <br /> <br /> You are tight about tictok, that's why I listed it as a possibility of why someone may be ill informed of how our constitution works. If it doesn't apply to you, don't be offended and done pick that category. Likewise, if you did pay attention in high school civics class, don't pick that category. <br /> <br /> Our servicemen and women swear to uphold the constitution (not the president) but so many don't even know the current constitution. How it is implemented and how it can be changed, and how interpretation of it can be manipulated (and who interprets and manipulates it).</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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Read the constitution. The process for electing a president are well defined. The slight modification to "majority rules" is the prototype of what this country is built upon - compromise. Look back and you'll see that without the current electoral college format, the southern states wouldn't have joined the new country. The founding fathers, mostly from the north, ultimately agreed. It was important to them to have the resources, and size to make the new country successful. They designed a Republic, not a pure democracy. Nowhere in the constitution does the presidential election process promise "majority rule". </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> And so we strive to correct the imperfections of the past.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nowhere in the constitution does the presidential election process promise "majority rule". </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Correct. But revised for obvious reasons. Clearly you and I interpret the Tenth Ammedment quite differently.<br /> I think its very enabling to the expressed desire of the majority correction to a Consttitution that is so limited<br /> in covering all possible situations. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The <b>Tenth Amendment</b> (<b>Amendment X</b>) to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">United States Constitution</a>, a part of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Bill of Rights</a>, was ratified on December 15, 1791.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-1" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">[1]</a> It expresses the principle of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism_in_the_United_States" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">federalism</a>, also known as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">states' rights</a>, by stating that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">federal government</a> has only those powers delegated to it by the Constitution, and that all other powers not forbidden to the states by the Constitution are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_powers" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">reserved to each state</a>, or to the people. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Name calling, you mean this -<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Broad statements like "Nobody...", "lack of success", have the ring of empty omnipotence in oneself. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I was just practicing your "Nobody...", "lack of success" to a broad audience as you have done.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> if you don't know my politics </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Yes I see I did misread your post, it clearly states majority rule, in the light of the historical evolution<br /> you stated. I had thought you were advocating limited rights until I read the right and proper goal <br /> the majority has expressed on multiple times in recent expression.......oh wait, I must have accidentally <br /> erased the part where you follow the imperfect formation with the correction needed<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Nobody EVER promised "Majority Rule" for the US Presidential elections (read the constitution).. The only people who thought that they were promised majority rule are those who<br /> - didn't pay attention in high school civics class, or<br /> - were easily convinced by Facebookers and TicTokers that a non-existent promise was broken or<br /> - have some unexplainable need to feel cheated because their lack of success cannot possibly be their own fault. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="14378" data-url="https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond" data-host="www.history.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://assets.editorial.aetnd.com/uploads/2020/08/electoral-college-gettyimages-615294306.jpg" alt="www.history.com" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> How the Electoral College Was Nearly Abolished in 1970 | HISTORY </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">The House approved a constitutional amendment to dismantle the indirect voting system, but it was killed in the Senate by a filibuster.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.history.com/editorial/icons/favicon-32x32.png" alt="www.history.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.history.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> Huh, looks like a lot of body's expressed, not "Nobody"</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> 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<div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> And so we strive to correct the imperfections of the past. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>It's not an imperfection, it was a negotiated agreement. You calling it an imperfection means all the states that wanted it consider it an imperfection from the other perspective. Negotiated solutions are usually good negotiated solutions of both sides are somewhat unhappy. This is one - for now (and the past 240+ years. <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Name calling, you mean this -<br /> I was just practicing your "Nobody...", "lack of success" to a broad audience as you have done. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I'm not name calling, I'm just pointing out a fact that some people, whether you or another, think they are somehow cheated when, in fact, their side (possibly "our side") negotiated the solution and no better deal was possible than settle on the electoral college concept. Just think how different our country would have been without those southern states joining our union. Think how important the northern states felt about keeping them in the Union that they lost so many people in the civil war. Just think how weak our military might be today if not for the disproportionate number of southerners in our armed forces today. <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yes I see I did misread your post, it clearly states majority rule, in the light of the historical evolution<br /> you stated. I had thought you were advocating limited rights until I read the right and proper goal <br /> the majority has expressed on multiple times in recent expression.......oh wait, I must have accidentally <br /> erased the part where you follow the imperfect formation with the correction needed </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I wouldn't mind the "correction" but what are you willing to give up in a negotiated change to the current situation to implement this in legislation? If you're not willing to give up anything, are you suggesting a less peaceful approach?<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--unfurl js-unfurl fauxBlockLink" data-unfurl="true" data-result-id="14378" data-url="https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond" data-host="www.history.com" data-pending="false"> <div class="contentRow"> <div class="contentRow-figure contentRow-figure--fixedSmall js-unfurl-figure"> <img src="https://assets.editorial.aetnd.com/uploads/2020/08/electoral-college-gettyimages-615294306.jpg" alt="www.history.com" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </div> <div class="contentRow-main"> <h3 class="contentRow-header js-unfurl-title"> <a href="https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond" class="link link--external fauxBlockLink-blockLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow ugc noopener" data-proxy-href=""> How the Electoral College Was Nearly Abolished in 1970 | HISTORY </a> </h3> <div class="contentRow-snippet js-unfurl-desc">The House approved a constitutional amendment to dismantle the indirect voting system, but it was killed in the Senate by a filibuster.</div> <div class="contentRow-minor contentRow-minor--hideLinks"> <span class="js-unfurl-favicon"> <img src="https://www.history.com/editorial/icons/favicon-32x32.png" alt="www.history.com" class="bbCodeBlockUnfurl-icon" data-onerror="hide-parent"/> </span> www.history.com </div> </div> </div> </div> <br /> Huh, looks like a lot of body's expressed, not "Nobody" </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> A lot of people have proposed a lot of things but our constitution has not promised any other method than the electoral college for selecting a president. We swear an oath to the constitution as currently amended when we take a federal job or enter the military. We don't take an oath to our own aspirational versions of the document.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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If its perfect, which it is not. If a community, declares itself as a Democracy, and yields its will to undo majority rule without interpolation, then it’s a Democratic allusion. I choose not to have my vote manipulated, along with the majority in US that feels the same way.<br /> <br /> <b>Focus on the word Majority unless one chooses to be a minority.<br /> <br /> Just think how different our country would have been without those southern states joining our union. </b>Looking around the planet seems to me US only having ½ its geography would have been a blessing on many levels. Lots of desert, hurricanes, depleted oil wells spewing methane into atmosphere, and just plane silly to think we would have been irrelevant, unless we wanted that, near sighted. Quite a few nations seem to be doing fine on a lot less geography.<br /> <br /> <b>willing to give… </b>I have been giving up my vote valuation for > 60 years, not enough I gather.<br /> <br /> <b>our constitution has not promised </b>– It promises the Tenth Amendment, I choose to believe in that and follow that and took an oath to that. And still, my vote doesn't really matter, have the force it rightfully deserves.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <div class="message-lastEdit"> Last edited: <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T12:11:50-0800" data-time="1731355910" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="12:11 PM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 12:11 PM" itemprop="dateModified">Nov 11, 2024</time> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="ZipZapOuch" data-content="post-1457333" id="js-post-1457333" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1457333/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1457333"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/" /> <div class="message-avatar message-avatar--online"> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/322/322126.jpg?1721790915" srcset="/data/avatars/l/322/322126.jpg?1721790915 2x" alt="ZipZapOuch" class="avatar-u322126-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> <span class="message-avatar-online" tabindex="0" data-xf-init="tooltip" data-trigger="auto" title="Online now"></span> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">ZipZapOuch</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Active Member</h5> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457333" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T12:10:25-0800" data-time="1731355825" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="12:10 PM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 12:10 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Nov 11, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457333" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1457333/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457333" rel="nofollow"> #31 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-1457333" data-lb-caption-desc="ZipZapOuch · Nov 11, 2024 at 12:10 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 285320" data-quote="danadak" data-source="post: 1457331" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1457331" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1457331">danadak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Then it that case why not an electoral college for all activities </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Because nobody asked for it. Why are you offering negotiating strength to an advisory when they are not asking for it? Who taught you about negotiating power - or, who taught you about arguing logically?</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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"Nobody", I always challenge a person speaking as if they have actual total knowledge.<br /> So far I am 100% accurate on IDing those who profess to know for all.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="ZipZapOuch" data-content="post-1457352" id="js-post-1457352" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1457352/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1457352"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/zipzapouch.322126/" /> <div class="message-avatar message-avatar--online"> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/322/322126.jpg?1721790915" srcset="/data/avatars/l/322/322126.jpg?1721790915 2x" alt="ZipZapOuch" class="avatar-u322126-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> <span class="message-avatar-online" tabindex="0" data-xf-init="tooltip" data-trigger="auto" title="Online now"></span> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/zipzapouch.322126/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="322126" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">ZipZapOuch</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Active Member</h5> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457352" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T16:53:46-0800" data-time="1731372826" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="4:53 PM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 4:53 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Nov 11, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457352" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1457352/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457352" rel="nofollow"> #33 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-1457352" data-lb-caption-desc="ZipZapOuch · Nov 11, 2024 at 4:53 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 285320" data-quote="danadak" data-source="post: 1457341" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=1457341" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1457341">danadak said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Again God like utterances. "Nobody", I always challenge a person speaking as if they have actual total knowledge.<br /> So far I am 100% accurate on IDing those who profess to know for all. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>And the difference between my version of lack is somehow worse than your version of "100%" completeness? So, include yourself.</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”<br /> ― George Orwell, 1984 (published June 8, 1949)</div> </aside> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget message-historyTarget toggleTarget" data-href="trigger-href"></div> </footer> </div> </div> </div> </article> <article class="message message--post js-post js-inlineModContainer " data-author="danadak" data-content="post-1457353" id="js-post-1457353" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Comment" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/posts/1457353/"> <meta itemprop="parentItem" itemscope itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/" /> <span class="u-anchorTarget" id="post-1457353"></span> <div class="message-inner"> <div class="message-cell message-cell--user"> <section class="message-user" itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="https://schema.org/Person" itemid="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/danadak.285320/"> <meta itemprop="url" content="https://www.electro-tech-online.com/members/danadak.285320/" /> <div class="message-avatar "> <div class="message-avatar-wrapper"> <a href="/members/danadak.285320/" class="avatar avatar--m" data-user-id="285320" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/data/avatars/m/285/285320.jpg?1644589903" srcset="/data/avatars/l/285/285320.jpg?1644589903 2x" alt="danadak" class="avatar-u285320-m" width="96" height="96" loading="lazy" itemprop="image" /> </a> </div> </div> <div class="message-userDetails"> <h4 class="message-name"><a href="/members/danadak.285320/" class="username " dir="auto" data-user-id="285320" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"><span itemprop="name">danadak</span></a></h4> <h5 class="userTitle message-userTitle" dir="auto" itemprop="jobTitle">Well-Known Member</h5> <div class="userBanner userBanner userBanner--gray message-userBanner" itemprop="jobTitle"><span class="userBanner-before"></span><strong>Most Helpful Member</strong><span class="userBanner-after"></span></div> </div> <span class="message-userArrow"></span> </section> </div> <div class="message-cell message-cell--main"> <div class="message-main js-quickEditTarget"> <header class="message-attribution message-attribution--split"> <ul class="message-attribution-main listInline "> <li class="u-concealed"> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457353" rel="nofollow" itemprop="url"> <time class="u-dt" dir="auto" datetime="2024-11-11T17:05:55-0800" data-time="1731373555" data-date-string="Nov 11, 2024" data-time-string="5:05 PM" title="Nov 11, 2024 at 5:05 PM" itemprop="datePublished">Nov 11, 2024</time> </a> </li> </ul> <ul class="message-attribution-opposite message-attribution-opposite--list "> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457353" class="message-attribution-gadget" data-xf-init="share-tooltip" data-href="/posts/1457353/share" aria-label="Share" rel="nofollow"> <i class="fa--xf fal fa-share-alt" aria-hidden="true"></i> </a> </li> <li> <a href="/threads/can-someone-explain-the-electoral-college.166097/post-1457353" rel="nofollow"> #34 </a> </li> </ul> </header> <div class="message-content js-messageContent"> <div class="message-userContent lbContainer js-lbContainer " data-lb-id="post-1457353" data-lb-caption-desc="danadak · Nov 11, 2024 at 5:05 PM"> <article class="message-body js-selectToQuote"> <div itemprop="text"> <div class="bbWrapper">Everyone I ID'ed, easily ID'ed because of their self reveal. My guess is I have ID'ed ~ .0000000000000001%<br /> <br /> Your version of "I know it all" is just another self aggrandized easily identified.<br /> <br /> You revealed, I recorded. 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My guess is I have ID'ed ~ .0000000000000001%<br /> <br /> Your version of "I know it all" is just another self aggrandized easily identified.<br /> <br /> You revealed, I recorded. Thats the difference. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Ok, I guess your version of the constitution is the right one and you are able to point your finger at all of us who are willing to live by the way the constitution has been interpreted for the last 235 years. Ok, you're the smart one who has been cheated and smart enough to know it. So, the question becomes, are you just going to complain about it or get off of your couch and so something about it?</div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> <aside class="message-signature"> <div class="bbWrapper">"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. 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And so last 235 years its has been changed.<br /> <br /> My version is a version of change and evolution. Correct compromises that no longer need<br /> support. Like criminal presidents are not omnipotent would be a good measure for starters.<br /> And a few more.....<br /> <br /> As far as being the smart one I figure I am Joe average, smart enough to eat/sleep/work on a<br /> regular basis, smart enough to know continuous learning is high priority, smart enough to know<br /> there are boatloads of people more smart than me, smart enough to know absolutes are often<br /> temporal when it comes to governance......<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> So, the question becomes, are you just going to complain about it or get off of your couch and so something about it? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <b>Wow the old deflection routine.</b> Active protestor on war, significant contributor to local<br /> elections, written factual letters to editors in local Newspaper, driver/address label placer mailer....auctioned<br /> off vacation property to fund candidates, read foreign affairs for ~ 20 years to educate myself ( I felt<br /> I lacked ability to make informed decisions there), guessing I have read ~ 200+ books on history and<br /> current affairs (cannot remember more than bits and pieces now), served for 6 years.....<br /> <br /> <b><i>How about you ?</i></b></div> </div> <div class="js-selectToQuoteEnd"> </div> </article> </div> </div> <footer class="message-footer"> <div class="message-microdata" itemprop="interactionStatistic" itemtype="https://schema.org/InteractionCounter" itemscope> <meta itemprop="userInteractionCount" content="0" /> <meta itemprop="interactionType" content="https://schema.org/LikeAction" /> </div> <div class="reactionsBar js-reactionsList "> </div> <div class="js-historyTarget 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