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</td></tr> <tr align="center"> <td><a href="/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle/Archive_1" title="User talk:IronGargoyle/Archive 1">1</a> </td></tr></tbody></table> <div id="toc" class="toc" role="navigation" aria-labelledby="mw-toc-heading"><input type="checkbox" role="button" id="toctogglecheckbox" class="toctogglecheckbox" style="display:none" /><div class="toctitle" lang="en" dir="ltr"><h2 id="mw-toc-heading">Contents</h2><span class="toctogglespan"><label class="toctogglelabel" for="toctogglecheckbox"></label></span></div> <ul> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-1"><a href="#File:王育德像.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">1</span> <span class="toctext">File:王育德像.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-2"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_of_Cornelius_Jakhelln_Image_25.png"><span class="tocnumber">2</span> <span class="toctext">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln Image 25.png</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-3"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787"><span class="tocnumber">3</span> <span class="toctext">Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Samer787</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-4"><a href="#Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?"><span class="tocnumber">4</span> <span class="toctext">Can I add this DR to the "Deletion requests/kept" category?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-5"><a href="#Please_review_for_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">5</span> <span class="toctext">Please review for deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-6"><a href="#Delete_please"><span class="tocnumber">6</span> <span class="toctext">Delete please</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-7"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">7</span> <span 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class="toclevel-1 tocsection-16"><a href="#About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">16</span> <span class="toctext">About Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-17"><a href="#File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">17</span> <span class="toctext">File:Raphiolepis Indica.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-18"><a href="#File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">18</span> <span class="toctext">File:Davankov for Mayor of Moscow 2023 poster.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-19"><a href="#Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png"><span class="tocnumber">19</span> <span class="toctext">Deletion of File:2023-02 ai image of woman 01.png</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-20"><a href="#Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657).jpg"><span class="tocnumber">20</span> <span class="toctext">Accusation of being disruptive at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-21"><a href="#Copyright_question"><span class="tocnumber">21</span> <span class="toctext">Copyright question</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-22"><a href="#Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors"><span class="tocnumber">22</span> <span class="toctext">Pipe organs on countries with no FoP for interiors</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-23"><a href="#Question"><span class="tocnumber">23</span> <span class="toctext">Question</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-24"><a href="#Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped"><span class="tocnumber">24</span> <span class="toctext">Feel free to ping me if you need Wikidata pages zapped</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-25"><a href="#No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?"><span class="tocnumber">25</span> <span class="toctext">No notifications to Wikivoyage anymore?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-26"><a href="#Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion"><span class="tocnumber">26</span> <span class="toctext">Wikimedia Commons picture deletion</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-27"><a href="#Deletion_decision_review"><span class="tocnumber">27</span> <span class="toctext">Deletion decision review</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-28"><a href="#Deletion_decision_review_2"><span class="tocnumber">28</span> <span class="toctext">Deletion decision review</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-29"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan"><span class="tocnumber">29</span> <span class="toctext">Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by KlaudeMan</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-30"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Addis-Abeba.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">30</span> <span class="toctext">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Marcel Junod avec Sidney Brown au départ pour Addis-Abeba.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-31"><a href="#Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">31</span> <span class="toctext">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Junod pendant la guerre civile en Espagne.jpg</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-32"><a href="#Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?"><span class="tocnumber">32</span> <span class="toctext">Why didn't my non-admin closure work?</span></a></li> <li class="toclevel-1 tocsection-33"><a href="#Discussion_at_User_talk:JWilz12345#File:SM_J_Mall_facade_October_2024.jpg"><span class="tocnumber">33</span> <span class="toctext">Discussion at User talk:JWilz12345#File:SM J Mall facade October 2024.jpg</span></a></li> </ul> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:王育德像.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:王育德像.jpg-20230205055700"><span id="File:.E7.8E.8B.E8.82.B2.E5.BE.B7.E5.83.8F.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:王育德像.jpg-20230205055700"></span>File:王育德像.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:王育德像.jpg-20230205055700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: File:王育德像.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JWilz12345-20230205055700-File:王育德像.jpg"></span>Hello. Was <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:%E7%8E%8B%E8%82%B2%E5%BE%B7%E5%83%8F.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:王育德像.jpg (page does not exist)">File:王育德像.jpg</a> meant to be deleted or not? Thanks in advance. <span style="font-family:Footlight MT"><a href="/wiki/User:JWilz12345" title="User:JWilz12345">JWilz12345</a> <span style="background-color:#68FCF1">(<i><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JWilz12345" title="User talk:JWilz12345">Talk</a></i>|<i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JWilz12345" title="Special:Contributions/JWilz12345">Contrib's.</a></i>)</span></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-JWilz12345-20230205055700-File:王育德像.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:57, 5 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JWilz12345-20230205055700-File:王育德像.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JWilz12345-20230205055700-File:王育德像.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230205140100-JWilz12345-20230205055700"></span>Now deleted. Must have glitched out. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230205140100-JWilz12345-20230205055700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:01, 5 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230205140100-JWilz12345-20230205055700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230205140100-JWilz12345-20230205055700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_of_Cornelius_Jakhelln_Image_25.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o-20230218045700"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Black_Metal.2C_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_of_Cornelius_Jakhelln_Image_25.png"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o-20230218045700"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_of_Cornelius_Jakhelln_Image_25.png" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln Image 25.png">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln Image 25.png</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o-20230218045700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln Image 25.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-20230218045700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a>: </span> Please restore the file, it has been extracted from <a href="/wiki/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_of_Cornelius_Jakhelln.pdf" title="File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln.pdf">File:Black Metal, Literature and Mythology. The Case of Cornelius Jakhelln.pdf</a> which is a document release through creative commons into the public domain. The file has been here for seven years, and I would expect to see a stronger argument put forward for deletion than the one presented, and have an expectation that a consensus be reached. Thanks. Please let me know when it is undeleted as I will need to fix the impacted work at English Wikisource. — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Billinghurst-20230218045700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-20230218045700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-20230218045700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224044500-Billinghurst-20230218045700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">Billinghurst</a>: </span> You are welcome to undelete the image if you want or upload it again as long as you fix the source. There is new information. There was nothing wrong with the close though. The image linked to a website that claimed to be all rights reserved in Icelandic and no one commented with evidence that the image was free. Stuff gets deleted when there is no objection all the time. There does not need to be consensus, just a reasonable suspicion that something is a copyright violation. With the new information you have given me, I can see that it might be free. I am a bit concerned by this journal though. The license statement on the journal itself is kind of wishy-washy and says that stuff may be CC, but not definitely. The photos in the journal also look dubious from a licensing perspective. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230224044500-Billinghurst-20230218045700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224044500-Billinghurst-20230218045700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230224044500-Billinghurst-20230218045700"></span></dd></dl> <p><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-20230224112100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a>: </span> Mate, you can do better than that. I am not expecting perfection, though I am expecting you to take responsibility for your actions when they are right or less than right. There is no problem reviewing a decision when something is brought to your attention, and there is no expectation of perfection in these administrative roles. </p> <ul><li><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://nome.unak.is/wordpress/">https://nome.unak.is/wordpress/</a></li> <li>statement of cc-by-sa => <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://doaj.org/toc/1670-6242?source=%7B%22query%22%3A%7B%22bool%22%3A%7B%22must%22%3A%5B%7B%22terms%22%3A%7B%22index.issn.exact%22%3A%5B%221670-6242%22%5D%7D%7D%5D%7D%7D%2C%22size%22%3A100%2C%22sort%22%3A%5B%7B%22created_date%22%3A%7B%22order%22%3A%22desc%22%7D%7D%5D%2C%22_source%22%3A%7B%7D%2C%22track_total_hits%22%3Atrue%7D">https://doaj.org/toc/1670-6242?source=%7B%22query%22%3A%7B%22bool%22%3A%7B%22must%22%3A%5B%7B%22terms%22%3A%7B%22index.issn.exact%22%3A%5B%221670-6242%22%5D%7D%7D%5D%7D%7D%2C%22size%22%3A100%2C%22sort%22%3A%5B%7B%22created_date%22%3A%7B%22order%22%3A%22desc%22%7D%7D%5D%2C%22_source%22%3A%7B%7D%2C%22track_total_hits%22%3Atrue%7D</a></li></ul> <p>The file was in use at enWS. and that is a publication in line with enWS's works released by cc-by-sa, and the image is part of the published work. So please undelete it, and let me know when it is undeleted so I can revert the edit at enWS </p><p>There is no ready and convenient way for enWS to know that a work has been nominated for deletion, and be able to track it, so please don't use that argument. Especially when a work has been there for 7 years. And please do not start the wikilawyering about the images in the journal being uncertain, that is a long bow to take, and is not part of our role. The work has been released and we are able to host it. We have an adequate defence about a 14 year old work that is online with a suitable licence and can respond to DCMA notices if they come. — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Billinghurst-20230224112100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:21, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-20230224112100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-20230224112100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Black_Metal,_Literature_and_Mythology._The_Case_o"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224125900-Billinghurst-20230224112100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">Billinghurst</a>: </span> I am aware of those links now, but none of them were linked in the original file description. It was only the all-rights-reserved link that was present. As I said, you are absolutely welcome to undelete the image yourself. You are an administrator on Commons too. The links above are an improvement to what was on the file description when it was deleted, though as I mentioned I still have concerns and <a href="/wiki/Commons:PRP" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:PRP">COM:PRP</a> outweighs the fact that we "can respond to [DMCA] notices if they come”. I have no problem with my actions being questioned. I make as many mistakes as the next person and own up to them when I do. After reflection, however, I still believe that I was 100% in the right given the information that was available to me at the time. You are welcome to rake me over the coals at some noticeboard if you want. I am not sure what else there is to say here. I feel like I have mostly been repeating myself. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230224125900-Billinghurst-20230224112100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:59, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224125900-Billinghurst-20230224112100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230224125900-Billinghurst-20230224112100"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Billinghurst-20230224134500-IronGargoyle-20230224125900"></span>I know well that I can undelete it. I am here asking you to undelete it as you deleted it, and presented the evidence for you to make that assessment and act. My request with evidence should be treated based on the facts and the argument, not on my role. I am not hauling you over coals, I am not ripping you a new orifice, nor taking you to a noticeboard. I am simply asking for you to undelete it. I am not sure how else to make such a request giving you the opportunity to do it.<p>Please reread PRP as your interpretation has not given sufficient weight to the fact that the work is published under a suitable licence. The PRP says <b>significant doubt</b> and that simply cannot the case with a 2009 published work with cc-by-sa licence. If you have significant doubt then why not seek another opinion. — <a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">billinghurst</a> <i><span style="font-size:90%;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Billinghurst" title="User talk:Billinghurst">sDrewth</a></span></i> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Billinghurst-20230224134500-IronGargoyle-20230224125900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:45, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Billinghurst-20230224134500-IronGargoyle-20230224125900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Billinghurst-20230224134500-IronGargoyle-20230224125900"></span></p></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224161800-Billinghurst-20230224134500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Billinghurst" title="User:Billinghurst">Billinghurst</a>: </span> I took the tone of your request to indicate that you wanted me to admit I had done something wrong in how I closed the discussion supposedly without consensus and/or without adequate reason (reinforced by the fact that you edited an archived closed deletion request (!) instead of leaving a pleasant note on my talk page). You could have just said "Oh, hey, I didn't notice this deletion request before the file got deleted. Here's some more evidence that wasn't on the file description page". I also would have been fine if you just undeleted it without asking me (as long as you fixed the inadequate evidence of permission). That's not reversing my action as far as I'm concerned. It's just fixing the encyclopedia. I was trying to be gracious in saying "you are welcome to undelete the image". I then explained my further concerns (because I do have them). I'll undelete the image because it seems important to you that I be the one to push the button, though I'm not sure why. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230224161800-Billinghurst-20230224134500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:18, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224161800-Billinghurst-20230224134500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230224161800-Billinghurst-20230224134500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787-20230224185000"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFiles_uploaded_by_Samer787"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787-20230224185000"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Samer787">Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Samer787</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787-20230224185000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Samer787"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yann-20230224185000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787"></span>Hi, You closed only half of the DR. Is this intentional? <a href="/wiki/User:Yann" title="User:Yann">Yann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yann" title="User talk:Yann"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Yann-20230224185000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yann-20230224185000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yann-20230224185000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Samer787"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224190200-Yann-20230224185000"></span>Not intentional. I was just skimming through the daily log page and I didn't notice the header above had the same title. I just closed the other discussion too since the issue is similar. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230224190200-Yann-20230224185000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230224190200-Yann-20230224185000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230224190200-Yann-20230224185000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?-20230307223100"><span id="Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_.22Deletion_requests.2Fkept.22_category.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?-20230307223100"></span>Can I add this DR to the "Deletion requests/kept" category?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?-20230307223100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Can I add this DR to the "Deletion requests/kept" category?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_found_with_©_Cynthia_van_Elk"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ooligan-20230307223100-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?"></span>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_found_with_©_Cynthia_van_Elk</a> @<a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> Can I add this DR to the "Deletion requests/kept" category? -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ooligan" title="User:Ooligan">Ooligan</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ooligan" title="User talk:Ooligan"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ooligan-20230307223100-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ooligan-20230307223100-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ooligan-20230307223100-Can_I_add_this_DR_to_the_"Deletion_requests/kept"_category?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230307223600-Ooligan-20230307223100"></span>Sure. You don't need to ask me to add a category. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230307223600-Ooligan-20230307223100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230307223600-Ooligan-20230307223100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230307223600-Ooligan-20230307223100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Please_review_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Please_review_for_deletion-20230307234900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Please_review_for_deletion-20230307234900"></span>Please review for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Please_review_for_deletion-20230307234900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Please review for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900-Please_review_for_deletion"></span>Greetings: As per <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_the_Wagner_Group.svg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the Wagner Group.svg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the Wagner Group.svg</a>, please review these images for deletion: </p> <ul><li><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Flag_of_the_Wagner_Group_(variant_2).svg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Flag of the Wagner Group (variant 2).svg (page does not exist)">File:Flag of the Wagner Group (variant 2).svg</a></li> <li><a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Flag_of_the_Wagner_Group_(variant_2).svg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Flag of the Wagner Group (variant 2).svg (page does not exist)">File:Flag_of_the_Wagner_Group_(variant_2).svg</a></li></ul> <p>Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900-Please_review_for_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900-Please_review_for_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900-Please_review_for_deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230308140600-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a>: </span> I am a bit confused about what you are asking, sorry. They were just posted to DR. Are you asking me if I think they should be speedily deleted? Are you asking something else? I did close a Wagner Group image DR in the past, but I trust that anyone else in the admin corps could deal with these images too. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230308140600-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:06, 8 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230308140600-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230308140600-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230324190400-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"></span>I suspect someone deleted them between when I saw them and when you looked? They were actual images, copies of some you had previously deleted and thus, I believe eligible for speedy. Best. <a href="/wiki/User:Ellin_Beltz" title="User:Ellin Beltz">Ellin Beltz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ellin_Beltz" title="User talk:Ellin Beltz"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ellin_Beltz-20230324190400-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230324190400-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ellin_Beltz-20230324190400-Ellin_Beltz-20230307234900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Delete_please" data-mw-thread-id="h-Delete_please-20230319064500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Delete_please-20230319064500"></span>Delete please<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Delete_please-20230319064500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Delete please"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Coprophilia_Scatophilia_-_Jacky_V.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Coprophilia Scatophilia - Jacky V.jpg"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dronebogus-20230319064500-Delete_please"></span>Commons:Deletion requests/File:Coprophilia Scatophilia - Jacky V.jpg</a> is about scat porn uploaded by a blocked sock puppet and has a unanimous deletion agreement. I’m really shocked it hasn’t been closed yet— could you delete it? <a href="/wiki/User:Dronebogus" title="User:Dronebogus">Dronebogus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dronebogus" title="User talk:Dronebogus"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Dronebogus-20230319064500-Delete_please" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dronebogus-20230319064500-Delete_please"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dronebogus-20230319064500-Delete_please"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230319111300-Dronebogus-20230319064500"></span>Deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230319111300-Dronebogus-20230319064500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 19 March 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230319111300-Dronebogus-20230319064500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230319111300-Dronebogus-20230319064500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg-20230412074500"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Blessmon.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg-20230412074500"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Blessmon.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Blessmon.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg-20230412074500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Blessmon.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blessmon365-20230412074500-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg"></span>hello you deleted the picture of blessmon, because of copyryght but he is my musical artist that's why I have permission to post the picture <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Blessmon365&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Blessmon365 (page does not exist)">Blessmon365</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Blessmon365" title="User talk:Blessmon365"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Blessmon365-20230412074500-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:45, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Blessmon365-20230412074500-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Blessmon365-20230412074500-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Blessmon.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230412173000-Blessmon365-20230412074500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Blessmon365&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Blessmon365 (page does not exist)">Blessmon365</a>: </span> Permission isn't the only issue. The musician also does not seem to be within <a href="/wiki/Commons:SCOPE" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:SCOPE">project scope</a> of Wikimedia Commons. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230412173000-Blessmon365-20230412074500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:30, 12 April 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230412173000-Blessmon365-20230412074500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230412173000-Blessmon365-20230412074500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger-20230617081000"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFiles_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger-20230617081000"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by MALS-malayan tiger">Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by MALS-malayan tiger</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger-20230617081000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by MALS-malayan tiger"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Yann-20230617081000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger"></span>Hi, Thanks for looking into this. These may be in the public domain, but they still have the wrong date, author, source, and license. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Yann" title="User:Yann">Yann</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Yann" title="User talk:Yann"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Yann-20230617081000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Yann-20230617081000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Yann-20230617081000-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_MALS-malayan_tiger"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20230617165800-Yann-20230617081000"></span>Fixed, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20230617165800-Yann-20230617081000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20230617165800-Yann-20230617081000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20230617165800-Yann-20230617081000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d-20231111025800"><span id="re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking.2C_London_.286258299657.29_.28cropped.29.jpg_for_deletion"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d-20231111025800"></span>re-nomination of Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657) (cropped).jpg for deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d-20231111025800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: re-nomination of Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657) (cropped).jpg for deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyllel-20231111025800-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d"></span>Hi, I think <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657) (cropped).jpg (page does not exist)">File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657) (cropped).jpg</a> should be re-nominated for deletion. You closed the deletion for two stated reasons, one of which is no longer true, and the other, I think, is plausibly in doubt. The first was that it was <a href="/wiki/Commons:INUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:INUSE">COM:INUSE</a> by another project, Wikipedia. This is now no longer true. Its only use is on <a href="/wiki/User:Brianjd#Images_of_minors_or_school_students" title="User:Brianjd">Brianjd's page</a>, and it's only there as a result of the nomination for deletion. The second stated reason was that was that it did not violate <a href="/wiki/Commons:INUSE" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:INUSE">COM:INUSE</a>, specifically <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a>. Opinions on that in the original discussion were decidedly mixed, but my reading of the discussion was that the use of the image on Wikipedia was a confounding factor for determining the relevance of <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a>. Now that it is no longer in use I believe a second vote for deletion would clarify the issue. </p><p>Considering all the above I'm letting you know I'm thinking of renominating it. I've never actually submitted a nomination for deletion before so I also have a query about how to properly submit the request. This image is a cropped version of another image <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657).jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg (page does not exist)">File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg</a>. Would a nomination for one be taken to refer to both, assuming the cropping itself does not constitute a meaningfully different image in terms of guidelines? And should I nominate the original, or the cropped version as that's where the discussion has been thus far? Or does it not matter much? --<a href="/wiki/User:Cyllel" title="User:Cyllel">Cyllel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyllel" title="User talk:Cyllel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Cyllel-20231111025800-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:58, 11 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyllel-20231111025800-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyllel-20231111025800-re-nomination_of_Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657)_(cropped).jpg_for_d"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20231112051000-Cyllel-20231111025800"></span>I would strongly discourage you from doing so. The image is not removed from project scope simply because it was removed from the article(s). This is particularly true when an image was used in good faith for a significant period of time. I should note that violating <a href="/wiki/Commons:IDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:IDENT">COM:IDENT</a> would indeed be sufficient justification to delete the image even if it was in use or otherwise in scope, but the file did not violate the <a href="/wiki/Commons:IDENT" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:IDENT">COM:IDENT</a> policy. Firstly, the subjects are not identifiable, the photograph was not taken in a jurisdiction where the subjects would need to consent even if they were identifiable in a public place, and the concerns regarding <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a> in the discussion largely surrounded the inappropriate captions and these concerns were dealt with via ordinary editing of the description. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20231112051000-Cyllel-20231111025800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20231112051000-Cyllel-20231111025800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20231112051000-Cyllel-20231111025800"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyllel-20231113030900-IronGargoyle-20231112051000"></span>Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid I disagree that my original concerns regarding <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a> were dealt with by merely removing the description, as the link to the original Flickr source remains, which makes clear its "creepshot" provenance. That was always my original concern. All we have done is hidden offending material which makes clear that provenance - an argument could be made that this is worse, because it suggests that we know we're doing something wrong by using the image. I also disagree that the discussion in the previous request for deletion came to the conclusion that the concerns had been dealt with by editing the description. As <a href="/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites">Rhododendrites</a> put it (emphasis mine):</dd></dl></dd></dl> <blockquote> <p>There's no legal problem (taken in public in the UK), but it's a tough call as far as the moral question. ... Where it gets tricky is in the information we have. In some cases, we can simply rename, change the description, and so on, but here <b>no matter what we do we'll always have to link to the Flickr source, where (a) the exact location of the photo is documented, eroding part of the unidentifiable claim, and (b) his intention is made clear: he wanted a photo of the young girls' legs</b>. As COM:DIGNITY says, <b>we don't need to see the face to refuse to host creepshots</b>. I wouldn't be voting to delete based just on the photo, but Weak Delete <b>based on the provenance/context</b>. </p> </blockquote> <dl><dd><dl><dd>So clearly some users were of the opinion that it's not the text per se, but the source itself, and I don't believe this issue was ever resolved. We can't delete the source. I must admit I'm a little confused as to why you bring up the notion of identity or legality, so I'll try to be clearer as to why I don't think this is relevant. It is <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a> specifically that I'm referencing, which makes clear that neither the subjects being unidentifiable nor the image being legal are in and of themselves a reason to keep an image (emphasis mine):</dd></dl></dd></dl> <blockquote> <p>...Common decency and respect for human dignity may influence the decision whether to host an image <b>above that required by the law</b>. The extent to which an image might be regarded as "unfairly obtained" or to be "intrusive", for example, is a matter of degree and may depend on the nature of the shot, the location, and the notability of the subject. </p><p><b>The provenance of an image may taint its use irredeemably. A "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Downblouse" class="extiw" title="w:en:Downblouse">downblouse</a>" or "<a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/creepshot" class="extiw" title="wiktionary:creepshot">creepshot</a>" photograph is not made ethically acceptable just because the subject's face is cropped out</b> A paparazzi telephoto shot of a naked sunbather does not become acceptable merely by pixelating the face. </p><p>In the same way as quality newspapers may apply a "public interest" test to doubtful images, the degree to which an image meets our educational project scope may also be considered. <b>When in doubt, there is no requirement for Commons to host any image of a person</b>. </p> </blockquote> <dl><dd><dl><dd>I think that with the image now removed from Wikipedia we should resolve the original argument for deletion advanced by myself, Rhododendrites, and others, that its provenance is, to use the wording of <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a>, irredeemably tainted. This makes another nomination justifiable. <a href="/wiki/User:Cyllel" title="User:Cyllel">Cyllel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyllel" title="User talk:Cyllel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Cyllel-20231113030900-IronGargoyle-20231112051000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:09, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyllel-20231113030900-IronGargoyle-20231112051000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyllel-20231113030900-IronGargoyle-20231112051000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Rhododendrites-20231113154700-Cyllel-20231113030900"></span>Responding to the ping, but don't really have anything to add beyond what I said in the DR (as quoted above). INUSE/SCOPE are irrelevant to this particular case. It's just a matter of <a href="/wiki/Commons:DIGNITY" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DIGNITY">COM:DIGNITY</a>:<br/>(1) to what extent are they identifiable thanks to the exact location being provided?<br/> (2) Regardless of whether they're identifiable, to what extent is the image itself similar to an upskirt/downblouse/creepshot, which doesn't require the subject to be identifiable?<br/>(3) Regardless of whether it looks like a "creepshot", the language of the photographer betrays that it <i>is</i> one. Even if we remove that language from Commons, we're required to link to it on Flickr. To what extent should knowledge of the provenance influence our determination of a tainted provenance, and to what extent should we consider language on the sites we link to in contextualizing an image?<br/>For me, I find this case to be 90% about #3. The fact that we know it's a creepshot, and link to that fact, means it should be deleted. Changing the description on Commons isn't good enough. I admit it's a difficult case, though. — <span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;"><a href="/wiki/User:Rhododendrites" title="User:Rhododendrites"><span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span></a> <sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Rhododendrites" title="User talk:Rhododendrites">talk</a></sup></span> | <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Rhododendrites-20231113154700-Cyllel-20231113030900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Rhododendrites-20231113154700-Cyllel-20231113030900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Rhododendrites-20231113154700-Cyllel-20231113030900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyllel-20231113193500-Cyllel-20231111025800"></span>I've gone ahead and nominated it. --<a href="/wiki/User:Cyllel" title="User:Cyllel">Cyllel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyllel" title="User talk:Cyllel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Cyllel-20231113193500-Cyllel-20231111025800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:35, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyllel-20231113193500-Cyllel-20231111025800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyllel-20231113193500-Cyllel-20231111025800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg-20231208083300"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Flag_of_Caracas_.282022.29.svg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg-20231208083300"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Caracas (2022).svg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Caracas (2022).svg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg-20231208083300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Caracas (2022).svg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AbchyZa22-20231208083300-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg"></span>Hi,what this "deleted" or "kept"?? Traducción:Esta imagen debería ser "removida" (deleted) o "quedarse" (kept)?? <a href="/wiki/User:AbchyZa22" title="User:AbchyZa22">AbchyZa22</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:AbchyZa22" title="User talk:AbchyZa22"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-AbchyZa22-20231208083300-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:33, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AbchyZa22-20231208083300-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AbchyZa22-20231208083300-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Caracas_(2022).svg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20231208205900-AbchyZa22-20231208083300"></span>I'm not sure why you are asking me as I haven't commented in the discussion. If you are asking me to close the discussion, I would politely decline. I think the discussion could benefit from being left open a bit longer and it might attract more input from those with a clearer understanding of the copyright law in question. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20231208205900-AbchyZa22-20231208083300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20231208205900-AbchyZa22-20231208083300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20231208205900-AbchyZa22-20231208083300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0-20240114150600"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFiles_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0-20240114150600"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Screenshots of Android 6.0">Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Screenshots of Android 6.0</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0-20240114150600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Screenshots of Android 6.0"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0x0a-20240114150600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"></span>Hi, IronGargoyle. In fact, I had planned to add a blur filter to a few photos of Samsung smartphone in this category to remove copyrighted wallpaper, but I forgot to do this. Could you temporarily restore those photos? Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0x0a" title="User talk:0x0a"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-0x0a-20240114150600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0x0a-20240114150600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0x0a-20240114150600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240114205100-0x0a-20240114150600"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a>: </span> Done. Let me know when you are finished. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240114205100-0x0a-20240114150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240114205100-0x0a-20240114150600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240114205100-0x0a-20240114150600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0x0a-20240115035900-IronGargoyle-20240114205100"></span>Can <a href="/wiki/File:Android_Screenshot_(Marshmallow).jpg" title="File:Android Screenshot (Marshmallow).jpg">File:Android Screenshot (Marshmallow).jpg</a> be temporarily restored, too? <a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0x0a" title="User talk:0x0a"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-0x0a-20240115035900-IronGargoyle-20240114205100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:59, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0x0a-20240115035900-IronGargoyle-20240114205100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0x0a-20240115035900-IronGargoyle-20240114205100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240115040100-0x0a-20240115035900"></span>Yeah, sorry, thought I got them all. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240115040100-0x0a-20240115035900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240115040100-0x0a-20240115035900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240115040100-0x0a-20240115035900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0x0a-20240115044700-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"></span>Sorry to disturb you. I "fixed" the copyright issues for the following files (except screenshots). Should the original versions be hidden? I noticed that this was done in another <a href="/wiki/File:Front_of_ZTE_Axon_10_Pro.jpg" title="File:Front of ZTE Axon 10 Pro.jpg">case</a>.</dd></dl> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_6.0_(Marshmallow).jpg" title="File:Android 6.0 (Marshmallow).jpg">File:Android 6.0 (Marshmallow).jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_6.0_Marshmallow.jpeg" title="File:Android 6.0 Marshmallow.jpeg">File:Android 6.0 Marshmallow.jpeg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_Marshmallow.JPG" title="File:Android Marshmallow.JPG">File:Android Marshmallow.JPG</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_Phone_(Marshmallow).jpg" title="File:Android Phone (Marshmallow).jpg">File:Android Phone (Marshmallow).jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_Screenshot_(Marshmallow).jpg" title="File:Android Screenshot (Marshmallow).jpg">File:Android Screenshot (Marshmallow).jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Samsung_Galaxy_Note_5,_S6_edge%2B_and_Note_7_20161010a.jpg" class="mw-redirect" title="File:Samsung Galaxy Note 5, S6 edge+ and Note 7 20161010a.jpg">File:Samsung Galaxy Note 5, S6 edge+ and Note 7 20161010a.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Samsung_Galaxy_Note_5,_S6_edge%2B_and_Note_7_20161010b.jpg" title="File:Samsung Galaxy Note 5, S6 edge+ and Note 7 20161010b.jpg">File:Samsung Galaxy Note 5, S6 edge+ and Note 7 20161010b.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Smartphone_Android_Marshmallow.jpg" title="File:Smartphone Android Marshmallow.jpg">File:Smartphone Android Marshmallow.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Android_logo.jpg" title="File:Android logo.jpg">File:Android logo.jpg</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/File:Samsung_Android_Smartphones.jpg" title="File:Samsung Android Smartphones.jpg">File:Samsung Android Smartphones.jpg</a></li></ul> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0x0a" title="User talk:0x0a"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-0x0a-20240115044700-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0x0a-20240115044700-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0x0a-20240115044700-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_6.0"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240115045600-0x0a-20240115044700"></span>Done. Revisions hidden. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240115045600-0x0a-20240115044700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240115045600-0x0a-20240115044700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240115045600-0x0a-20240115044700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0x0a-20240115050900-IronGargoyle-20240115045600"></span>Hi, this screenshot <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Android_6.0-en.png&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Android 6.0-en.png (page does not exist)">File:Android 6.0-en.png</a> should be deleted as it involves no originality of the uploader. And I've made a free image to replace it. <a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0x0a" title="User talk:0x0a"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-0x0a-20240115050900-IronGargoyle-20240115045600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0x0a-20240115050900-IronGargoyle-20240115045600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0x0a-20240115050900-IronGargoyle-20240115045600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-0x0a-20240115052000-0x0a-20240115050900"></span>Can you please leave a comment in <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Screenshots_of_Android_5.0" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Screenshots of Android 5.0">COM:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Screenshots of Android 5.0</a> in case anyone get confused about file recovery? <a href="/wiki/User:0x0a" title="User:0x0a">0x0a</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:0x0a" title="User talk:0x0a"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-0x0a-20240115052000-0x0a-20240115050900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-0x0a-20240115052000-0x0a-20240115050900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-0x0a-20240115052000-0x0a-20240115050900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg-20240212092100"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg-20240212092100"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:SAYAGYI U BA KHIN.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:SAYAGYI U BA KHIN.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg-20240212092100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:SAYAGYI U BA KHIN.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Seewolf-20240212092100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg"></span>Hi IronGargoyle, can you please tell me the uploader of <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:SAYAGYI U BA KHIN.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:SAYAGYI U BA KHIN.jpg</a>? I don't remember the user name, but I remember that all his other uploads had the same problem. <a href="/wiki/User:Seewolf" title="User:Seewolf">Seewolf</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Seewolf" title="User talk:Seewolf"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Seewolf-20240212092100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Seewolf-20240212092100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Seewolf-20240212092100-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:SAYAGYI_U_BA_KHIN.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240212173100-Seewolf-20240212092100"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Seewolf" title="User:Seewolf">Seewolf</a>: </span> Sure. It was uploaded by <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Brontesauria">Brontesauria</a></span>. You can search that for yourself without administrator access if you go to <a href="/wiki/Special:Log" title="Special:Log">Special:Log</a> and put the page/file name in as the target. This uploader does not seem to have any undeleted uploads remaining. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240212173100-Seewolf-20240212092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240212173100-Seewolf-20240212092100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240212173100-Seewolf-20240212092100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests" data-mw-thread-id="h-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests-20240213164400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests-20240213164400"></span>Weird Myanmar military-related swath of deletion requests<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests-20240213164400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Weird Myanmar military-related swath of deletion requests"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dane-3051-20240213164400-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests"></span>Hi, My account is a fake account of Dibosh Chakma. So I request that this account should be blocked too. I uploaded US Navy photos from the flickr then later on added permissions copying them from other photos. Most of the photos I requested to be deleted because these photos are edited and uploaded without proper authorisation. I did that before too. so now I want all things to go right. and sorry for everything. Dane-3051 uploaded every picture is taken from flickr and shipshub website. so I request you to delete those pictures. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Dane-3051&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Dane-3051 (page does not exist)">Dane-3051</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dane-3051" title="User talk:Dane-3051"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Dane-3051-20240213164400-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dane-3051-20240213164400-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dane-3051-20240213164400-Weird_Myanmar_military-related_swath_of_deletion_requests"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?-20240225200100"><span id=".D0.A2.D0.B2.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.8C_.D0.B7.D0.B0.D1.87.D0.B5.D0.BC_.D1.83.D0.B4.D0.B0.D0.BB.D0.B8.D0.BB_.D1.84.D0.BB.D0.B0.D0.B3_.D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B8.D0.B4.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.81.D1.82.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.B2.D1.8C.D1.8F.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?-20240225200100"></span>Тварь зачем удалил флаг Приднестровья?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?-20240225200100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: Тварь зачем удалил флаг Приднестровья?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-89.113.153.9-20240225200100-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?"></span>Тварь зачем вы удалили флаг ПМР.PNG <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.113.153.9" title="Special:Contributions/89.113.153.9">89.113.153.9</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-89.113.153.9-20240225200100-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-89.113.153.9-20240225200100-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-89.113.153.9-20240225200100-Тварь_зачем_удалил_флаг_Приднестровья?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240226063200-89.113.153.9-20240225200100"></span>I'm afraid that I don't know what you are talking about. Can you provide me with a more precise file name? <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:%D0%A4%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3_%D0%9F%D0%9C%D0%A0.PNG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Флаг ПМР.PNG (page does not exist)">File:флаг ПМР.PNG</a> does not seem to have ever been a file on Wikimedia Commons. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240226063200-89.113.153.9-20240225200100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240226063200-89.113.153.9-20240225200100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240226063200-89.113.153.9-20240225200100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf-20240227142200"><span id="File:Ki.CA.BBi_Kihawahine.pdf"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf-20240227142200"></span><span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Ki%CA%BBi_Kihawahine.pdf" class="new" title="File:Kiʻi Kihawahine.pdf"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media">File:Kiʻi Kihawahine.pdf</span></a></span><span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf-20240227142200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: File:Kiʻi Kihawahine.pdf"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-ThT-20240227142200-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf"></span>Hi. Unfortunately I haven't been logged in for some days, therefore I couldn't respond to <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/852424032" title="Special:Diff/852424032">the message about the nomination for deletion</a>. The given reason <i>plain text</i> is not correct, because the file includes an image of the Kiʻi Kihawahine. Hence I ask you to review your decision. Best, --<a href="/wiki/User:ThT" title="User:ThT">ThT</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:ThT" title="User talk:ThT"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-ThT-20240227142200-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-ThT-20240227142200-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-ThT-20240227142200-File:Kiʻi_Kihawahine.pdf"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240227153600-ThT-20240227142200"></span>I checked and the sole image contained within is <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://recherche.smb.museum/detail/996611">licensed under a non-commercial license</a>, so it can't be restored, sorry. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240227153600-ThT-20240227142200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240227153600-ThT-20240227142200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240227153600-ThT-20240227142200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg-20240303063200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg-20240303063200"></span>About Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg-20240303063200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: About Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr.R1234-20240303063200-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg"></span>Hello. I'm a Japanese wikipedian.<span class="mw-default-size" typeof="mw:Error mw:File"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg" class="new" title="File:Doraemon 2005Logo.jpg"><span class="mw-file-element mw-broken-media">File:Doraemon 2005Logo.jpg</span></a></span> was deleted by you. I was using it on my page,so CommonsDelinker deleted that picture. So,I watched <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Doraemon 2005Logo.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Doraemon 2005Logo.jpg</a>.But I can't understand what problems are there in that picture because machine translation(Google translate) outputed terrific transration.If you like,please explain the problem with the picture.Thanks. (I didn't use machine translation,so maybe I make many mistake in my English.Sorry!)--<a href="/wiki/User:Mr.R1234" title="User:Mr.R1234">Mr.R1234</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr.R1234" title="User talk:Mr.R1234"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Mr.R1234-20240303063200-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:32, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr.R1234-20240303063200-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr.R1234-20240303063200-About_Doraemon_2005Logo.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240303223900-Mr.R1234-20240303063200"></span>The image is above the threshold of originality in Japan. In other words, it is too creative to be in the public domain. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240303223900-Mr.R1234-20240303063200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240303223900-Mr.R1234-20240303063200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240303223900-Mr.R1234-20240303063200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr.R1234-20240315100300-IronGargoyle-20240303223900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a></dd> <dd>I'm sorry to late reply.Does that mean It's not simple enough to put it in the public domain?--<a href="/wiki/User:Mr.R1234" title="User:Mr.R1234">Mr.R1234</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr.R1234" title="User talk:Mr.R1234"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Mr.R1234-20240315100300-IronGargoyle-20240303223900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr.R1234-20240315100300-IronGargoyle-20240303223900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr.R1234-20240315100300-IronGargoyle-20240303223900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240315121800-Mr.R1234-20240315100300"></span>Correct. The little pictures which went along with the letters made it too complex. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240315121800-Mr.R1234-20240315100300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240315121800-Mr.R1234-20240315100300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240315121800-Mr.R1234-20240315100300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mr.R1234-20240315140500-IronGargoyle-20240315121800"></span>Thanks for your reply.I got it.--<a href="/wiki/User:Mr.R1234" title="User:Mr.R1234">Mr.R1234</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mr.R1234" title="User talk:Mr.R1234"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Mr.R1234-20240315140500-IronGargoyle-20240315121800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mr.R1234-20240315140500-IronGargoyle-20240315121800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mr.R1234-20240315140500-IronGargoyle-20240315121800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg-20240321155500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg-20240321155500"></span>File:Raphiolepis Indica.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg-20240321155500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: File:Raphiolepis Indica.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Krok6kola-20240321155500-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg"></span>Hi, I've put this image (which I mistakenly tried to delete and you saved) in "unidentified flowers". Perhaps you know its actual name. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Krok6kola" title="User:Krok6kola">Krok6kola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krok6kola" title="User talk:Krok6kola"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Krok6kola-20240321155500-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:55, 21 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Krok6kola-20240321155500-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Krok6kola-20240321155500-File:Raphiolepis_Indica.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240322175200-Krok6kola-20240321155500"></span>I assumed the filename was its species. It does seem like someone with expertise in botany could probably identify this though. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240322175200-Krok6kola-20240321155500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240322175200-Krok6kola-20240321155500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240322175200-Krok6kola-20240321155500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg-20240323091200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg-20240323091200"></span>File:Davankov for Mayor of Moscow 2023 poster.jpg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg-20240323091200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: File:Davankov for Mayor of Moscow 2023 poster.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Macs24-20240323091200-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg"></span>Why did you delete the photo <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Davankov for Mayor of Moscow 2023 poster.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Davankov for Mayor of Moscow 2023 poster</a>? Can you explain? At photo was an election poster, not a work of art. So freedom of panorama does not apply to this. There's even category for same type of photos, for posters <a href="/wiki/Category:Election_posters_in_Russia" title="Category:Election posters in Russia">Category:Election posters in Russia</a>, for billboards: <a href="/wiki/Category:Billboards_in_Russia" title="Category:Billboards in Russia">Category:Billboards in Russia</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:Visual_election_campaigning_in_Kazan" title="Category:Visual election campaigning in Kazan">Category:Visual election campaigning in Kazan</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Macs24&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Macs24 (page does not exist)">Macs24</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Macs24" title="User talk:Macs24"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Macs24-20240323091200-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Macs24-20240323091200-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Macs24-20240323091200-File:Davankov_for_Mayor_of_Moscow_2023_poster.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240323141900-Macs24-20240323091200"></span>Photographs are creative works which are protected by copyright in nearly every jurisdiction, including Russia. The categories you cite contain a mix of old posters/billboards (no longer protected by copyright), very simple posters/billboards, and instances where the copyrighted material is <a href="/wiki/Commons:De_minimis" title="Commons:De minimis">de minimis</a>. There are also some images in those categories which should probably be deleted like this poster was. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240323141900-Macs24-20240323091200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:19, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240323141900-Macs24-20240323091200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240323141900-Macs24-20240323091200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png-20240404214400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png-20240404214400"></span>Deletion of File:2023-02 ai image of woman 01.png<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png-20240404214400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: Deletion of File:2023-02 ai image of woman 01.png"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ziko-20240404214400-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png"></span>Hello, could you please explain why you deleted the image? Can you tell me whose copyright was infringed? <a href="/wiki/User:Ziko" title="User:Ziko">Ziko van Dijk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ziko" title="User talk:Ziko"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ziko-20240404214400-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ziko-20240404214400-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ziko-20240404214400-Deletion_of_File:2023-02_ai_image_of_woman_01.png"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406022500-Ziko-20240404214400"></span>It was a derivative work. The copyright owner of the movie <i>Breakfast at Tiffany's</i> is the owner whose work this infringed upon. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240406022500-Ziko-20240404214400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406022500-Ziko-20240404214400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240406022500-Ziko-20240404214400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ziko-20240406154200-IronGargoyle-20240406022500"></span>How exactly is it a derivative work, according to our rules on derivative works? <a href="/wiki/User:Ziko" title="User:Ziko">Ziko van Dijk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ziko" title="User talk:Ziko"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ziko-20240406154200-IronGargoyle-20240406022500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ziko-20240406154200-IronGargoyle-20240406022500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ziko-20240406154200-IronGargoyle-20240406022500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406175600-Ziko-20240406154200"></span>It's obviously based on Audrey Hepburn's character from <i>Breakfast at Tiffany's</i>. <a href="/wiki/Commons:DW" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:DW">COM:DW</a> applies to characters in fictional works. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240406175600-Ziko-20240406154200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406175600-Ziko-20240406154200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240406175600-Ziko-20240406154200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ziko-20240406181000-IronGargoyle-20240406175600"></span>Can you name me the exaxt sentence of COM:DW that applies here? <a href="/wiki/User:Ziko" title="User:Ziko">Ziko van Dijk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ziko" title="User talk:Ziko"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ziko-20240406181000-IronGargoyle-20240406175600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ziko-20240406181000-IronGargoyle-20240406175600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ziko-20240406181000-IronGargoyle-20240406175600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406211800-Ziko-20240406181000"></span>Read the section titled "What is a derivative work?" please. It clearly includes examples using characters. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240406211800-Ziko-20240406181000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240406211800-Ziko-20240406181000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240406211800-Ziko-20240406181000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ziko-20240510082000-IronGargoyle-20240406211800"></span>Hello @<a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a>, I am sorry that I left this thread here like this; I always appreciate when admins take the time to explain a decision. - In this case, I am not sure whether this is a derivative work as meant on COM:DW. We agree that the face of the deceased actress is not protected; and it is a personal judgement whether the young woman does resemble Audrey Hepburn at all. Anyway, the young woman on the picture sports a certain hairstyle, a certain make_up and a certain dress. Non of these elements are owned by the film production company in the way that copyright or other rights would be violated. - Or imagine an image of Roger Moore in a white dinner jacket: neither Moore or the jacket are protected and banned from reproduction. <a href="/wiki/User:Ziko" title="User:Ziko">Ziko van Dijk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ziko" title="User talk:Ziko"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ziko-20240510082000-IronGargoyle-20240406211800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ziko-20240510082000-IronGargoyle-20240406211800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ziko-20240510082000-IronGargoyle-20240406211800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240511014100-Ziko-20240510082000"></span>You can make the argument that Disney can't copyright Mickey Mouse. I mean a mouse with big ears isn't copyrightable. A mouse wearing red pants isn't copyrightable. A mouse wearing gloves isn't copyrightable. But when you put it all together (and/or many other subtle cues) there is clear intent to create a derivative work. Let me put it this way: I instantly recognized the image as Holly Golightly. I also showed the image to someone I know. Unprompted, and without any clues on my behalf they said "Holly Golightly". They didn't just say Audrey Hepburn. They instantly recognized the character. That is prima face a derivative work. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240511014100-Ziko-20240510082000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240511014100-Ziko-20240510082000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240511014100-Ziko-20240510082000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657).jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in-20240424085000"><span id="Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking.2C_London_.286258299657.29.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in-20240424085000"></span>Accusation of being disruptive at <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in_Dorking,_London_(6258299657).jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in-20240424085000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Accusation of being disruptive at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Schoolgirls in Dorking, London (6258299657).jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Brianjd-20240424085000-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in"></span>At that deletion request, you wrote: </p> <dl><dd>[<a href="/wiki/User:Cyllel" title="User:Cyllel">Cyllel</a>’s reinstatement of the original link] serves no purpose and is only being disruptive to try and prove a point.</dd></dl> <p>That user gave a detailed rationale for their reinstatement of that link. Disagreeing with that rationale is reasonable, but then accusing that user of ‘only being disruptive to try and prove a point’ is assuming bad faith where there is no evidence of bad faith, a violation of <a href="/wiki/Commons:Assume_good_faith" title="Commons:Assume good faith">the relevant Commons guideline</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Brianjd" title="User:Brianjd">Brianjd</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Brianjd" title="User talk:Brianjd"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Brianjd-20240424085000-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Brianjd-20240424085000-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Brianjd-20240424085000-Accusation_of_being_disruptive_at_Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Schoolgirls_in"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240425012500-Brianjd-20240424085000"></span>It's really weird that you bring this up several months after that discussion concluded, but whatever. I stand by my assertion and I think you misunderstand my statement (assume good faith indeed). I wasn't saying that Cyllel <i>intended</i> to be disruptive, but the net effect of reinstating a problematic link (which other editors in the discussion agreed was better off removed) was disruptive in my mind. I was talking about the act being disruptive, not the actor. I don't think that is a violation of AGF. I have to call bad acts as I see them. I do think Cyllel was trying to prove a point because the link existing was the strongest rationale for deleting the image. Why else would someone reinsert a problematic link which they themselves admitted was a problem? I'm sure the point was made with the best of intentions for Commons, but it was still a disruptive act. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240425012500-Brianjd-20240424085000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240425012500-Brianjd-20240424085000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240425012500-Brianjd-20240424085000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cyllel-20240428030700-IronGargoyle-20240425012500"></span>Hi IronGargoyle, I am glad that Brianjd brought this back up, if only so I could revisit it and think about what I could have done differently. I do accept that you genuinely believed I was acting disruptively, and I could have given you more benefit of the doubt that you were acting in good faith. As I said at the time, there was obviously strong disagreement regarding the image, so no hard feelings.</dd> <dd>As you laid out your perspective, I'd like to present mine: I was not trying to use edits as a rhetorical instrument in the discussion. I genuinely found (and still find) it impossible to comprehend the view advanced by some editors that the description and/or link should have been removed but the image remain. This was never my personal view, although I accept I could have been clearer in articulating that distinction in my original talk page post, and subsequent request for deletion. When I initially saw your edit removing the link to the page, I honestly interpreted it as something more like an admission of guilt — not on your part personally, but on the part of Commons. It was almost as if we were saying "the link proves the image is bad, so we should remove the link to cover up the evidence." As you say, the link was the strongest rationale for deleting the image. Why else would someone delete the link unless they wanted to cover up the proof that the image was problematic? This was my only way of understanding your action, which is why I reverted the edit. This was wrong, and I should have assumed good faith instead. While I honestly still do not at all understand the idea that removing the link made the image no longer problematic, I accept that we had a difference of opinion on the best way to deal with the issue. --<a href="/wiki/User:Cyllel" title="User:Cyllel">Cyllel</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cyllel" title="User talk:Cyllel"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Cyllel-20240428030700-IronGargoyle-20240425012500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cyllel-20240428030700-IronGargoyle-20240425012500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cyllel-20240428030700-IronGargoyle-20240425012500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyright_question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyright_question-20240510021300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyright_question-20240510021300"></span>Copyright question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyright_question-20240510021300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=21" title="Edit section: Copyright question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Krok6kola-20240510021300-Copyright_question"></span>Hi, does "Photo by Steve Jennings/Getty Images for TechCrunch" count as a deletion candiate for your purposes? (I'm sorry I recently gave you a hard time.) <a href="/wiki/User:Krok6kola" title="User:Krok6kola">Krok6kola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krok6kola" title="User talk:Krok6kola"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Krok6kola-20240510021300-Copyright_question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Krok6kola-20240510021300-Copyright_question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Krok6kola-20240510021300-Copyright_question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240510023100-Krok6kola-20240510021300"></span>I mean yeah. It sounds pretty blatant. It would help if you linked to the actual image you were talking about though. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240510023100-Krok6kola-20240510021300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240510023100-Krok6kola-20240510021300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240510023100-Krok6kola-20240510021300"></span> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Krok6kola-20240510150600-IronGargoyle-20240510023100"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(30631863718).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863718%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3913" data-file-height="2604"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(44501525021).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501525021%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3760" data-file-height="2502"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(30631863988).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631863988%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3414" data-file-height="2272"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(44501526611).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526611%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3804" data-file-height="2530"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(44501527141).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527141%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3942" data-file-height="2624"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(44501526951).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501526951%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4069" data-file-height="2708"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(30631864898).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2830631864898%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3962" data-file-height="2636"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(44501527581).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2844501527581%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="4076" data-file-height="2712"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(29563932347).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="75" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563932347%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="2398" data-file-height="3602"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(29563931687).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829563931687%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3770" data-file-height="2508"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_(29559785187).jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg/50px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg/75px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg/100px-TechCrunch_Disrupt_San_Francisco_2018_-_day_1_%2829559785187%29.jpg 2x" data-file-width="3704" data-file-height="2464"/></a></span></li> <li><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg/50px-Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg" decoding="async" width="50" height="33" class="mw-file-element" srcset="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg/75px-Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg 1.5x, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg/100px-Roxanne_Varza_and_TechCrunch_Moderator_Mike_Butcher_attend_a_Q%26A_during_day_1_of_TechCrunch_Disrupt_London.jpg 2x" data-file-width="5336" data-file-height="3558"/></a></span></li></ul> <dl><dd>In fact, probably some of those in <a href="/wiki/Category:TechCrunch_Disrupt_SF_2018" title="Category:TechCrunch Disrupt SF 2018">Category:TechCrunch Disrupt SF 2018</a></dd> <dd>Some of these images have been repeatedly cropped and used in various articles. <a href="/wiki/User:Krok6kola" title="User:Krok6kola">Krok6kola</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Krok6kola" title="User talk:Krok6kola"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Krok6kola-20240510150600-IronGargoyle-20240510023100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Krok6kola-20240510150600-IronGargoyle-20240510023100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Krok6kola-20240510150600-IronGargoyle-20240510023100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240510204000-Krok6kola-20240510150600"></span>Ok, that's a considerably more complicated question. TechCrunch is a reliable publisher and I would expect that they would be able to determine what license they were releasing images under (as it says they are freely licensed on their official Flickr stream). Normally Getty Images are definitively not freely licensed (when they aren't copyfrauding public domain images that is), but this says they are for TechCrunch, so I don't know. I would ask at <a href="/wiki/Commons:VPC" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:VPC">COM:VPC</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240510204000-Krok6kola-20240510150600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:40, 10 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240510204000-Krok6kola-20240510150600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240510204000-Krok6kola-20240510150600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors" data-mw-thread-id="h-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors-20240517173300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors-20240517173300"></span>Pipe organs on countries with no FoP for interiors<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors-20240517173300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Pipe organs on countries with no FoP for interiors"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors"></span>I'd like to have a discussion for such cases, there was once one, but it was archived because of lack of interest. Since you are an admin, should we unarchive the archived one or begin a new one? <a href="/wiki/User:Paradise_Chronicle" title="User:Paradise Chronicle">Paradise Chronicle</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Paradise_Chronicle" title="User talk:Paradise Chronicle"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300-Pipe_organs_on_countries_with_no_FoP_for_interiors"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240518194100-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300"></span>You're welcome to start one, though I think there isn't much to say about it (probably why the first discussion died out). Most cases I've seen have been kept. The case-by-case nature of this issue could vary I suppose and is informed by <a href="/wiki/Commons:UA" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:UA">COM:UA</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240518194100-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240518194100-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240518194100-Paradise_Chronicle-20240517173300"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Question" data-mw-thread-id="h-Question-20240710162100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Question-20240710162100"></span>Question<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Question-20240710162100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: Question"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240710162100-Question"></span>Hello, back in 2022 you added <a href="/wiki/Template:Kept" title="Template:Kept">{{Kept}}</a> to <a href="/w/index.php?title=File_talk:HK_Four_Seasons_Hotel_IMG_4920.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4920.JPG (page does not exist)">File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4920.JPG</a>, <a href="/w/index.php?title=File_talk:HK_Four_Seasons_Hotel_IMG_4921.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4921.JPG (page does not exist)">File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4921.JPG</a> and <a href="/w/index.php?title=File_talk:HK_Four_Seasons_Hotel_IMG_4922.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4922.JPG (page does not exist)">File talk:HK Four Seasons Hotel IMG 4922.JPG</a>. I can't find a corresponding DR, so do you know why that is? Is it perhaps a DR that's been deleted? <a href="/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere" title="Special:WhatLinksHere">Special:Whatlinkshere</a> doesn't find any DR either. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Jonteemil-20240710162100-Question" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240710162100-Question"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240710162100-Question"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240710165500-Jonteemil-20240710162100"></span>And also <a href="/wiki/File_talk:View_from_Harbour_Plaza_Metropolis,_Hong_Kong_1.jpg" title="File talk:View from Harbour Plaza Metropolis, Hong Kong 1.jpg">File talk:View from Harbour Plaza Metropolis, Hong Kong 1.jpg</a>, <a href="/wiki/File_talk:View_from_Harbour_Plaza_Metropolis,_Hong_Kong_3.jpg" title="File talk:View from Harbour Plaza Metropolis, Hong Kong 3.jpg">File talk:View from Harbour Plaza Metropolis, Hong Kong 3.jpg</a> with the same issues as above. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Jonteemil-20240710165500-Jonteemil-20240710162100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240710165500-Jonteemil-20240710162100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240710165500-Jonteemil-20240710162100"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710183700-Jonteemil-20240710165500"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a>: </span> The nominator did not create a proper subpage, so apparently the deletion tool linked the "kept" notice to the log page instead. Old deletion logs get deleted once emptied. I checked back into the deleted page history and it looks like it was a frivolous nomination with the claimed rationale of privacy. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240710183700-Jonteemil-20240710165500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710183700-Jonteemil-20240710165500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240710183700-Jonteemil-20240710165500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240710184000-IronGargoyle-20240710183700"></span>I see. Would you delete the file talk pages then per <a href="/wiki/Commons:CSD#G1" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:CSD">COM:CSD#G1</a> or alternatively <a href="/wiki/Commons:CSD#G8" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:CSD">COM:CSD#G8</a>? <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Jonteemil-20240710184000-IronGargoyle-20240710183700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240710184000-IronGargoyle-20240710183700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240710184000-IronGargoyle-20240710183700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710184300-Jonteemil-20240710184000"></span>I wouldn't suggest doing either, as the redlink still directs administrators indirectly to the discussion. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240710184300-Jonteemil-20240710184000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710184300-Jonteemil-20240710184000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240710184300-Jonteemil-20240710184000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240710224500-IronGargoyle-20240710184300"></span>The redlink doesn't direct anyone anywhere or what do you mean? <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Jonteemil-20240710224500-IronGargoyle-20240710184300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240710224500-IronGargoyle-20240710184300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240710224500-IronGargoyle-20240710184300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710224500-Jonteemil-20240710224500"></span>If you have access to deleted revisions, it does. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240710224500-Jonteemil-20240710224500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240710224500-Jonteemil-20240710224500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240710224500-Jonteemil-20240710224500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonteemil-20240712002200-IronGargoyle-20240710224500"></span>Can you explain it to me like I'm five? Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. To me they seem to qualify for speedy deletion per <a href="/wiki/Commons:CSD#G8" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:CSD">COM:CSD#G8</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Jonteemil" title="User:Jonteemil">Jonteemil</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonteemil" title="User talk:Jonteemil"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Jonteemil-20240712002200-IronGargoyle-20240710224500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonteemil-20240712002200-IronGargoyle-20240710224500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonteemil-20240712002200-IronGargoyle-20240710224500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240712023700-Jonteemil-20240712002200"></span>CSD G8 is largely for orphaned talk pages. In other words, talk pages without corresponding files. The files themselves still exist, so it doesn't meet the criteria. The talk pages in question serve a purpose by letting people know that a deletion discussion did happen. It takes being an administrator to see that deletion discussion now, but it would be even harder to see the deletion request history of the file if the talk page was deleted. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240712023700-Jonteemil-20240712002200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240712023700-Jonteemil-20240712002200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240712023700-Jonteemil-20240712002200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped" data-mw-thread-id="h-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped-20240726065500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped-20240726065500"></span>Feel free to ping me if you need Wikidata pages zapped<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped-20240726065500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Feel free to ping me if you need Wikidata pages zapped"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065500-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped"></span>As in <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Linffine_2024.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Linffine 2024.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Linffine 2024.jpg</a>. I picked back up the Wikidata mop in order to address Commons-Wikidata cross project issues like this one. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Squirrel_Conspiracy" title="User:The Squirrel Conspiracy">The Squirrel Conspiracy</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Squirrel_Conspiracy" title="User talk:The Squirrel Conspiracy"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065500-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065500-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Squirrel_Conspiracy-20240726065500-Feel_free_to_ping_me_if_you_need_Wikidata_pages_zapped"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?-20240824082400"><span id="No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?-20240824082400"></span>No notifications to Wikivoyage anymore?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?-20240824082400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: No notifications to Wikivoyage anymore?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?"></span>Ping <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">User:IronGargoyle</a>: Commons delinker <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Indochina_Wars&diff=4927413&oldid=4926970">just delinked an image on Wikivoyage</a> that was deleted by you in the <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Patuxai" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Patuxai">Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Patuxai</a> thread. It was used in the <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Indochina_Wars" class="extiw" title="voy:Indochina Wars">voy:Indochina Wars</a> article, but now I can't see it to make a decision about whether we should locally upload a file that was deleted just because of lack of commercial freedom of panorama. Why was there never a notification on the <a href="https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Talk:Indochina_Wars" class="extiw" title="voy:Talk:Indochina Wars">voy:Talk:Indochina Wars</a> page that this file was nominated for deletion? We're supposed to get such notifications. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400-No_notifications_to_Wikivoyage_anymore?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240824120300-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a>: </span> I have no idea about any bots and why they may or may not be working. I would suggest asking the bot operator or at the Village Pump. Would you like me to import the picture to Wikivoyage? As an aside, I did propose adding a similar template to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:FOP-USonly" class="extiw" title="en:Template:FOP-USonly">en:Template:FOP-USonly</a> to English Wikivoyage and it generated little interest if I recall correctly. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240824120300-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:03, 24 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240824120300-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240824120300-Ikan_Kekek-20240824082400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900-IronGargoyle-20240824120300"></span>Sure, do import it to en.wikivoyage. That's a very nice offer. I will pursue this problem further in the Village Pump, as you suggest. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900-IronGargoyle-20240824120300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:19, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900-IronGargoyle-20240824120300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900-IronGargoyle-20240824120300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240825213500-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900"></span>I just realized that this particular image was one of the ones I imported to English Wikipedia (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Patuxay,_Vientiane,_Laos.jpg" class="extiw" title="en:File:Patuxay, Vientiane, Laos.jpg">en:File:Patuxay, Vientiane, Laos.jpg</a>). I'll let you download and import it from there because you are probably more familiar the with Wikivoyage non-free image guidelines and templates than I am. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240825213500-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240825213500-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240825213500-Ikan_Kekek-20240825041900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240826174700-IronGargoyle-20240825213500"></span>Thanks. Yes, I can handle it if we decide we want it. <a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ikan_Kekek-20240826174700-IronGargoyle-20240825213500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240826174700-IronGargoyle-20240825213500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20240826174700-IronGargoyle-20240825213500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion-20240915151800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion-20240915151800"></span>Wikimedia Commons picture deletion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion-20240915151800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=26" title="Edit section: Wikimedia Commons picture deletion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-KhantWiki-20240915151800-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion"></span>Thanks for deleting on the talk page of the file of (<a href="/w/index.php?title=File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:General Zaw Min Tun.jpg (page does not exist)">https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg</a>) but I notice that the file isn't deleted yet and it's still up. I suggest deleting the entire file since it's unneeded for now. Per <a class="external free" href="https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg#File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg">https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg#File:General_Zaw_Min_Tun.jpg</a> <a href="/wiki/User:KhantWiki" title="User:KhantWiki">KhantWiki</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:KhantWiki" title="User talk:KhantWiki"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-KhantWiki-20240915151800-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-KhantWiki-20240915151800-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-KhantWiki-20240915151800-Wikimedia_Commons_picture_deletion"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240915235900-KhantWiki-20240915151800"></span>Weird. Must have been a deletion script error. File is deleted now. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240915235900-KhantWiki-20240915151800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240915235900-KhantWiki-20240915151800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240915235900-KhantWiki-20240915151800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_decision_review" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_decision_review-20240921112900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_decision_review-20240921112900"></span>Deletion decision review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_decision_review-20240921112900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Deletion decision review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900-Deletion_decision_review"></span>I would like you to review your deletion discussion result of <a class="external free" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Nalgonda_map.jpg">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Nalgonda_map.jpg</a> as GODL was only applicable for Indian government works from 2018, while this image was made originally available by one of the states of India in 2003 with copyright attributed to a private company. <a href="/wiki/User:Arjunaraoc" title="User:Arjunaraoc">Arjunaraoc</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Arjunaraoc" title="User talk:Arjunaraoc"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900-Deletion_decision_review" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900-Deletion_decision_review"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900-Deletion_decision_review"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20240923154800-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900"></span>I didn't make any decision. I just voted that it should be kept. Those arguments should be raised on the deletion request page itself. The discussion is still ongoing. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20240923154800-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20240923154800-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20240923154800-Arjunaraoc-20240921112900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Deletion_decision_review_2" data-mw-thread-id="h-Deletion_decision_review_2-20241004051900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Deletion_decision_review_2-20241004051900"></span>Deletion decision review<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Deletion_decision_review_2-20241004051900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: Deletion decision review"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-राजकुमार-20241004051900-Deletion_decision_review_2"></span>Could you please review the deletion discussion result of <a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Noniya_Chauhan.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Noniya Chauhan.jpg">File:Noniya Chauhan.jpg</a>? It was kept based on a single vote by another experienced editor, without considering my points. I also nominated other files from the same user, which were deleted. This user used multiple accounts to vandalize the Hindi Wikipedia page, and their previous account was blocked too. The photo seems to be a local gathering of a specific caste community, which may not have a relevant use on Wikipedia. I kindly request you to reconsider your decision. <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="User:राजकुमार"><span style="color: #E63E62;font-family:Georgia;"><b>राज</b></span><span style="color: #414A4C;font-family:Georgia;"><b>कुमार</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="User talk:राजकुमार"><sup style="color: #E63E62">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-राजकुमार-20241004051900-Deletion_decision_review_2" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:19, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-राजकुमार-20241004051900-Deletion_decision_review_2"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-राजकुमार-20241004051900-Deletion_decision_review_2"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20241004123500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"></span>The file has already been deleted for copyright violation reasons which were not raised in the deletion request. There is nothing to review here. I would have deleted it if I saw that it was a copyright violation, but it would have been in scope if it had not been a copyright violation. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20241004123500-राजकुमार-20241004051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20241004123500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20241004123500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-राजकुमार-20241005011500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"></span>The file got deleted because I brought up the issue with another admin. The chat is now turned off. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="User:राजकुमार"><span style="color: #E63E62;font-family:Georgia;"><b>राज</b></span><span style="color: #414A4C;font-family:Georgia;"><b>कुमार</b></span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0" title="User talk:राजकुमार"><sup style="color: #E63E62">(talk)</sup></a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-राजकुमार-20241005011500-राजकुमार-20241004051900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-राजकुमार-20241005011500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-राजकुमार-20241005011500-राजकुमार-20241004051900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan-20241022235600"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFiles_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan-20241022235600"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan" title="Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by KlaudeMan">Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by KlaudeMan</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan-20241022235600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by KlaudeMan"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reppop-20241022235600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan"></span>Hey, do you think you could also close the other request that's open? Or should another person who can do so do it? <span style="font-size:100%; font-family:Century Gothic;"><a href="/wiki/User:Reppop" title="User:Reppop"><span style="color:#063970"> <b>reppop</b></span></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reppop" title="User talk:Reppop"><span style="color:#1e81b0">talk</span></a></sup></span> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Reppop-20241022235600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 22 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reppop-20241022235600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reppop-20241022235600-Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_KlaudeMan"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062500-Reppop-20241022235600"></span>Missed this earlier, sorry. Someone else can close the other part of this because it deals with a different issue. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20241116062500-Reppop-20241022235600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:25, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062500-Reppop-20241022235600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062500-Reppop-20241022235600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Addis-Abeba.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad-20241116054400"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_d.C3.A9part_pour_Addis-Abeba.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad-20241116054400"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_d%C3%A9part_pour_Addis-Abeba.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Marcel Junod avec Sidney Brown au départ pour Addis-Abeba.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Marcel Junod avec Sidney Brown au départ pour Addis-Abeba.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad-20241116054400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=30" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Marcel Junod avec Sidney Brown au départ pour Addis-Abeba.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20241116054400-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad"></span>Maybe you missed part of the comment. If you think we have a release for this file, please attribute it correctly. <br/> ∞∞ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Enhancing999-20241116054400-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:44, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20241116054400-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20241116054400-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Marcel_Junod_avec_Sidney_Brown_au_départ_pour_Ad"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054400"></span>Updated license. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg-20241116054700"><span id="Commons:Deletion_requests.2FFile:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg-20241116054700"></span><a href="/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg" title="Commons:Deletion requests/File:Junod pendant la guerre civile en Espagne.jpg">Commons:Deletion requests/File:Junod pendant la guerre civile en Espagne.jpg</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg-20241116054700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=31" title="Edit section: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Junod pendant la guerre civile en Espagne.jpg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Enhancing999-20241116054700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg"></span>Do you have any evidence for the edits by RAN? I asked them, but haven't had a response. Not sure if that is the only issue with their claims about copyright. Please double-check your closure. <br/> ∞∞ <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Enhancing999&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Enhancing999 (page does not exist)">Enhancing999</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Enhancing999" title="User talk:Enhancing999"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Enhancing999-20241116054700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:47, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Enhancing999-20241116054700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Enhancing999-20241116054700-Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Junod_pendant_la_guerre_civile_en_Espagne.jpg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054700"></span>Updated license. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:23, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20241116062300-Enhancing999-20241116054700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?" data-mw-thread-id="h-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?-20241120055200"><span id="Why_didn.27t_my_non-admin_closure_work.3F"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?-20241120055200"></span>Why didn't my non-admin closure work?<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?-20241120055200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IronGargoyle&action=edit&section=32" title="Edit section: Why didn't my non-admin closure work?"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?"></span>Please have a look at <a class="external text" href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Flag_of_Rolla_Missouri.png&action=history">this edit history</a> and explain to me why instead of closing that DR, I seem to have closed the two following it. I hope it's fixed soon, but I would like to understand what I did wrong. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:52, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200-Why_didn't_my_non-admin_closure_work?"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-IronGargoyle-20241120064300-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200"></span>The <a href="/wiki/Template:Delh" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Delh"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace;">{{Delh}}</span></a> template needs to go above the section header. I fixed it. <a href="/wiki/User:IronGargoyle" title="User:IronGargoyle">IronGargoyle</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-IronGargoyle-20241120064300-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-IronGargoyle-20241120064300-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-IronGargoyle-20241120064300-Ikan_Kekek-20241120055200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120072600-IronGargoyle-20241120064300"></span>Thank you! <a href="/wiki/User:Ikan_Kekek" title="User:Ikan Kekek">Ikan Kekek</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ikan_Kekek" title="User talk:Ikan Kekek"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120072600-IronGargoyle-20241120064300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:26, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120072600-IronGargoyle-20241120064300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ikan_Kekek-20241120072600-IronGargoyle-20241120064300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_at_User_talk:JWilz12345#File:SM_J_Mall_facade_October_2024.jpg" 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invited to join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JWilz12345#File:SM_J_Mall_facade_October_2024.jpg" title="User talk:JWilz12345">User talk:JWilz12345#File:SM J Mall facade October 2024.jpg</a>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Marchjuly-20241121211300-Discussion_at_User_talk:JWilz12345#File:SM_J_Mall_facade_October_2024.jpg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20241121211300-Discussion_at_User_talk:JWilz12345#File:SM_J_Mall_facade_October_2024.jpg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span 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Since you're a Commons admin, an English Wikipedia admin and also have experience using "FoP-USonly" license on English Wikipedia, maybe you could provide some advice on how to best proceed with respect to some pictures of buildings in the Philippines which seem to have <a href="/wiki/Commons:FOP_Philippines" class="mw-redirect" title="Commons:FOP Philippines">COM:FOP Philippines</a> related issues. -- <a href="/wiki/User:Marchjuly" title="User:Marchjuly">Marchjuly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Marchjuly" title="User talk:Marchjuly"><span class="signature-talk">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronGargoyle#c-Marchjuly-20241121211600-Marchjuly-20241121211300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Marchjuly-20241121211600-Marchjuly-20241121211300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a 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