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class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Community_Tech_bot-20230501210800-A_Commons_file_used_on_this_page_or_its_Wikidata_item_has_been_nominated_for_del"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Use_of_surname" data-mw-thread-id="h-Use_of_surname-20230902122700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Use_of_surname-20230902122700"></span>Use of surname<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Use_of_surname-20230902122700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Use of surname"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700-Use_of_surname"></span>An edit war has now begun to assert that "Grimaldi" should be added where the prince's full name is given. There is no reliable source for that and I will revert it again tomorrow unless a good reason is given here not to. <a href="/wiki/User:SergeWoodzing" title="User:SergeWoodzing">SergeWoodzing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SergeWoodzing" title="User talk:SergeWoodzing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700-Use_of_surname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700-Use_of_surname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700-Use_of_surname"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF-20230902133100-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700"></span>This also affects other members of the House of Grimaldi, who had the removal of "Grimaldi" reverted. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF" title="Special:Contributions/2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF">2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF-20230902133100-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:31, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF-20230902133100-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2601:249:9301:D570:38CF:2358:328E:C8EF-20230902133100-SergeWoodzing-20230902122700"></span></dd></dl> <p><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Albert-II-prince-de-Monaco"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Векочел-20230902165600-Use_of_surname"></span>Britannica</a> gives Prince Albert's full name including the surname. <a href="/wiki/User:%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB" title="User:Векочел">Векочел</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB" title="User talk:Векочел">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-Векочел-20230902165600-Use_of_surname" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:56, 2 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Векочел-20230902165600-Use_of_surname"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Векочел-20230902165600-Use_of_surname"></span> </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500-Векочел-20230902165600"></span>His government <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.palais.mc/fr/la-famille-princiere/s-a-s-le-prince-albert-ii/biographie-1-5.html">does not</a>. That, to me, is what we go by. --<a href="/wiki/User:SergeWoodzing" title="User:SergeWoodzing">SergeWoodzing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SergeWoodzing" title="User talk:SergeWoodzing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500-Векочел-20230902165600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500-Векочел-20230902165600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500-Векочел-20230902165600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Surtsicna-20230903092500-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500"></span>Except when <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.palais.mc/en/news/h-s-h-prince-albert-ii/event/2010/june/the-palace-of-monaco-announced-the-engagement-of-hsh-prince-albert-ii-of-monaco-with-ms-charlene-wittstock-1768.html">it does</a>. I do not think we should mislead readers into thinking that Albert and his family do not have a surname. <a href="/wiki/User:Surtsicna" title="User:Surtsicna">Surtsicna</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Surtsicna" title="User talk:Surtsicna">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-Surtsicna-20230903092500-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Surtsicna-20230903092500-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Surtsicna-20230903092500-SergeWoodzing-20230903091500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id=""illegitimate"_children" data-mw-thread-id="h-"illegitimate"_children-20230927235700"><span id=".22illegitimate.22_children"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-"illegitimate"_children-20230927235700"></span>"illegitimate" children<span data-mw-comment-end="h-"illegitimate"_children-20230927235700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: "illegitimate" children"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20230927235700-"illegitimate"_children"></span>The article currently has a header <i>Relationships and illegitimate children</i>. Referring to children as <i>illegitimate</i> is biased -- they are legitimately children -- and quite dated, as children born outside of wedlock are quite standard these days. (Just as an example: the first child on the list was born in the US, where 40% of children are born outside of wedlock.) There is absolutely no reason to be demeaning the children in this manner, for events that they had no control over. May I suggest <i>Non-marital relationships and resulting children</i> as a header instead? Or possibly simply <i>Paternity claims</i>? -- <a href="/wiki/User:NatGertler" title="User:NatGertler">Nat Gertler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NatGertler" title="User talk:NatGertler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-NatGertler-20230927235700-"illegitimate"_children" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:57, 27 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NatGertler-20230927235700-"illegitimate"_children"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NatGertler-20230927235700-"illegitimate"_children"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JackofOz-20230928000200-NatGertler-20230927235700"></span>I agree. "There are no illegitimate children – only illegitimate parents". (<a href="/wiki/Leon_Rene_Yankwich" title="Leon Rene Yankwich">Leon Rene Yankwich</a>) -- <a href="/wiki/User:JackofOz" title="User:JackofOz"><span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Jack of Oz</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:JackofOz#top" title="User talk:JackofOz"><span style="font-size:85%; font-family: Verdana;"><sup>[pleasantries]</sup></span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-JackofOz-20230928000200-NatGertler-20230927235700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JackofOz-20230928000200-NatGertler-20230927235700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JackofOz-20230928000200-NatGertler-20230927235700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20230928232900-JackofOz-20230928000200"></span>Without objection, I changed it to <i>Paternity claims</i>. -- <a href="/wiki/User:NatGertler" title="User:NatGertler">Nat Gertler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NatGertler" title="User talk:NatGertler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-NatGertler-20230928232900-JackofOz-20230928000200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NatGertler-20230928232900-JackofOz-20230928000200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NatGertler-20230928232900-JackofOz-20230928000200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230929115500-NatGertler-20230928232900"></span>Well done! --<a href="/wiki/User:SergeWoodzing" title="User:SergeWoodzing">SergeWoodzing</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SergeWoodzing" title="User talk:SergeWoodzing">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-SergeWoodzing-20230929115500-NatGertler-20230928232900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SergeWoodzing-20230929115500-NatGertler-20230928232900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SergeWoodzing-20230929115500-NatGertler-20230928232900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="RfC_of_interest" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfC_of_interest-20231124190100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfC_of_interest-20231124190100"></span>RfC of interest<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfC_of_interest-20231124190100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: RfC of interest"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><small><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-AndrewPeterT-20231124190100-RfC_of_interest"></span>(non-automated message)</small> Greetings! I have opened an RfC on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:ROYALTY" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:ROYALTY">WT:ROYALTY</a> that may be of interest to users following this article talk page! You are encouraged to contribute to this discussion <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Royalty_and_Nobility/Archive_11#RfC:_How_should_articles_on_sovereigns_of_current_European_monarchies_be_(re)titled?" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility/Archive 11">here</a>! <i><b><a href="/wiki/User:AndrewPeterT" title="User:AndrewPeterT">Hurricane</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:AndrewPeterT" title="User talk:AndrewPeterT">Andrew</a> (<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/AndrewPeterT" title="Special:Contributions/AndrewPeterT">444</a>)</b></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-AndrewPeterT-20231124190100-RfC_of_interest" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-AndrewPeterT-20231124190100-RfC_of_interest"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-AndrewPeterT-20231124190100-RfC_of_interest"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Billionaire" data-mw-thread-id="h-Billionaire-20240113004200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Billionaire-20240113004200"></span>Billionaire<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Billionaire-20240113004200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Billionaire"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20240113004200-Billionaire"></span>I just had to eliminate one of the sources used to establish his US$1 billion + evaluation, as it was a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORBESCON" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORBESCON">WP:FORBESCON</a> article and thus not usable on a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BLP">WP:BLP</a>. I do not have Forbes access, so I cannot tell which of the information in the statement is referenced there. However, this evaluation is a problem, as it is greater than a decade old and thus cannot be trusted for the current situation. (I did put a date on it.) This also brings into question his inclusion in <a href="/wiki/Category:Monegasque_billionaires" title="Category:Monegasque billionaires">Category:Monegasque billionaires</a>, as even if the more-than-a-billion evaluation stands, it is possible for him not to be a Monegasque billionaires because Monaco is based not on the dollar but the more-valuable euro, and it is possible he is worth less than a billion euros. -- <a href="/wiki/User:NatGertler" title="User:NatGertler">Nat Gertler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NatGertler" title="User talk:NatGertler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-NatGertler-20240113004200-Billionaire" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:42, 13 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NatGertler-20240113004200-Billionaire"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NatGertler-20240113004200-Billionaire"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20240113014000-NatGertler-20240113004200"></span>Okay, I've not managed to catch the details on the new page before the paywall block popped up, and it evaluated him at a flat $1 billion. One might guess he gained money in the ensuing years, and thus qualify as a euro-billionaire, but guesses ain't factses. -- <a href="/wiki/User:NatGertler" title="User:NatGertler">Nat Gertler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NatGertler" title="User talk:NatGertler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-NatGertler-20240113014000-NatGertler-20240113004200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NatGertler-20240113014000-NatGertler-20240113004200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NatGertler-20240113014000-NatGertler-20240113004200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Fiedler_suit_dates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Fiedler_suit_dates-20240617164100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Fiedler_suit_dates-20240617164100"></span>Fiedler suit dates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Fiedler_suit_dates-20240617164100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Fiedler suit dates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20240617164100-Fiedler_suit_dates"></span>I was bothered by the description of the Fiedler lawsuit as simply being "earlier". I found a later piece of coverage that cited the date of the alleged tryst to October 1986, and the matter was definitely getting coverage in 1991 (<a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://www.newspapers.com/article/sunday-mirror-romeo-prince-in-baby-test/149506112/">sometimes luridly so</a>, as one might imagine), but given the sometimes slow-grinding wheels of justice, that means the suit could've been filed anytime between 1987 and 1991. If anyone can come up with a more precise date, it would be an improvement. -- <a href="/wiki/User:NatGertler" title="User:NatGertler">Nat Gertler</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:NatGertler" title="User talk:NatGertler">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_II,_Prince_of_Monaco#c-NatGertler-20240617164100-Fiedler_suit_dates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-NatGertler-20240617164100-Fiedler_suit_dates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-NatGertler-20240617164100-Fiedler_suit_dates"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-NatGertler-20240617172000-NatGertler-20240617164100"></span>Never mind, I found it. -- 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