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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20221129012300-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20221129012300-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20221129012300-ArbCom_2022_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010" data-mw-thread-id="h-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010-20230208005600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010-20230208005600"></span>Response to California Elections before 2010<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010-20230208005600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Response to California Elections before 2010"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-172.58.75.92-20230208005600-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010"></span>Hello all Municipal Elections are not Nonpartisan in California until 2010 the Municipal Elections law went in to affect in to 2010 it available on San Francisco and Los Angeles mayoral election pages let me know if you are confused :) <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.58.75.92" title="Special:Contributions/172.58.75.92">172.58.75.92</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:172.58.75.92" title="User talk:172.58.75.92">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-172.58.75.92-20230208005600-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:56, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-172.58.75.92-20230208005600-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-172.58.75.92-20230208005600-Response_to_California_Elections_before_2010"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20230208010500-172.58.75.92-20230208005600"></span>Hey, I was able to find the text that modified the California Constitution, which was prop 14 in 2009. It doesn't seem like this changed anything with local elections. The changes to the constitution (with italics meaning text added by the proposition) are: "SEC. 6. (a) All judicial, school, county, and city offices, <i>including the Superintendent of Public Instruction</i>, shall be nonpartisan." <a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://repository.uchastings.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2300&context=ca_ballot_props">[1]</a><a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://repository.uchastings.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2300&context=ca_ballot_props">https://repository.uchastings.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2300&context=ca_ballot_props</a> (page 66). Los Angeles city elections have been nonpartisan per the City Charter since 1909. If there is any other source, that would be great to see, thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20230208010500-172.58.75.92-20230208005600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20230208010500-172.58.75.92-20230208005600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20230208010500-172.58.75.92-20230208005600"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="California_Municipal_elections" data-mw-thread-id="h-California_Municipal_elections-20230209194700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-California_Municipal_elections-20230209194700"></span>California Municipal elections<span data-mw-comment-end="h-California_Municipal_elections-20230209194700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: California Municipal elections"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-172.58.22.175-20230209194700-California_Municipal_elections"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span></span> please revert all the edits that you made on the mayoral elections that you made in California Municipal Elections are not Nonpartisan in California until 2010 when prop 14 pass so can you please revert all the edits back to avoid miss judge ment of edits waring thank you. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.58.22.175" title="Special:Contributions/172.58.22.175">172.58.22.175</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:172.58.22.175&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:172.58.22.175 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-172.58.22.175-20230209194700-California_Municipal_elections" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:47, 9 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-172.58.22.175-20230209194700-California_Municipal_elections"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-172.58.22.175-20230209194700-California_Municipal_elections"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Reppop-20230225011200-172.58.22.175-20230209194700"></span>Eteethan is correct, local elections in Los Angeles have been nonpartisan since 1909 because of the passing of the 1909 City Charter. Per <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://my.lwv.org/sites/default/files/leagues/los-angeles/structureofacity.pdf">this source</a>: "A 1911 amendment to the state constitution made all local elections in California nonpartisan, but Los Angeles voters could not wait and, in 1909, installed nonpartisan elections". What you're talking about is the nonpartisan blanket primary, which California now uses to put all running politicians, regardless of party, onto one ballot. <a href="/wiki/User:Reppop" title="User:Reppop"><b>reppop</b></a><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Reppop" title="User talk:Reppop"><b>talk</b></a></sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Reppop-20230225011200-172.58.22.175-20230209194700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 25 February 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Reppop-20230225011200-172.58.22.175-20230209194700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Reppop-20230225011200-172.58.22.175-20230209194700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023-20230912190000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023-20230912190000"></span><i>The Center Line</i>: Fall 2023<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023-20230912190000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: The Center Line: Fall 2023"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div style="margin-left: 10%; 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padding:2px;"><b><a href="/wiki/User:Imzadi1979" title="User:Imzadi1979"><span style="color:white;">Imzadi 1979</span></a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Imzadi1979" title="User talk:Imzadi1979"><span style="color:white;"><big>→</big></span></a></b></span> on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Imzadi1979-20230912190000-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 12 September 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Imzadi1979-20230912190000-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Imzadi1979-20230912190000-The_Center_Line:_Fall_2023"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Edit_summary" data-mw-thread-id="h-Edit_summary-20231107064000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Edit_summary-20231107064000"></span>Edit summary<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Edit_summary-20231107064000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Edit summary"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000-Edit_summary"></span>I'm sorry. What part of my edit summary did you not understand? d per 2020 tag. Deletion. Per the 2020 tag. Which you could see. For some reason you called that an unexplained content removal. And used tools to revert. But that was not proper, as it was explained. And appropriate. And re-adding it violated wp rules. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0" title="Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0">2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0" title="User talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000-Edit_summary" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:40, 7 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000-Edit_summary"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000-Edit_summary"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20231108063100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000"></span>Hey - honestly I didn't really know what you were trying to say in your edit summary, "d per 2020 tag." Upon further review you were correct in deleting content; however I would recommend a more clear edit summary in the future - such as "Deleting unsourced content, as tagged in 2020." Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231108063100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:31, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231108063100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231108063100-2603:7000:2101:AA00:DDD2:4F20:16A4:82A0-20231107064000"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="I_think_it_was_mistake" data-mw-thread-id="h-I_think_it_was_mistake-20231108081200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-I_think_it_was_mistake-20231108081200"></span>I think it was mistake<span data-mw-comment-end="h-I_think_it_was_mistake-20231108081200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: I think it was mistake"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.188.140.167-20231108081200-I_think_it_was_mistake"></span>The version you restored contained spelling errors, the non-automatic taxobox and some English that could probably be improved. The large removal there was because I accidently duplicated the "Background" section. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.188.140.167" title="Special:Contributions/115.188.140.167">115.188.140.167</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:115.188.140.167" title="User talk:115.188.140.167">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-115.188.140.167-20231108081200-I_think_it_was_mistake" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:12, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.188.140.167-20231108081200-I_think_it_was_mistake"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.188.140.167-20231108081200-I_think_it_was_mistake"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20231108081900-115.188.140.167-20231108081200"></span>Hey! The content that was removed seems to be well referenced. I'd recommend correcting the spelling/grammar errors and the taxobox in that case!. Let me know if you have any questions :) <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231108081900-115.188.140.167-20231108081200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:19, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231108081900-115.188.140.167-20231108081200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231108081900-115.188.140.167-20231108081200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-115.188.140.167-20231108084300-Eteethan-20231108081900"></span>The content I removed was an exact duplicate of the section above <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/115.188.140.167" title="Special:Contributions/115.188.140.167">115.188.140.167</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:115.188.140.167" title="User talk:115.188.140.167">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-115.188.140.167-20231108084300-Eteethan-20231108081900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:43, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-115.188.140.167-20231108084300-Eteethan-20231108081900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-115.188.140.167-20231108084300-Eteethan-20231108081900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20231108084700-115.188.140.167-20231108084300"></span>Ah, I see - It wasn't readily apparent because the removal/addition were on different edits. <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231108084700-115.188.140.167-20231108084300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231108084700-115.188.140.167-20231108084300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231108084700-115.188.140.167-20231108084300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page" data-mw-thread-id="h-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page-20231108090200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page-20231108090200"></span>No explanation for a blanket revert in the history page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page-20231108090200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: No explanation for a blanket revert in the history page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:@Eteethan&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:@Eteethan (page does not exist)">@Eteethan</a>: You reverted two of my good faith edits of the Hijab article</dd></dl> <p>in one swoop revert, within one minute after I posted my edits, and you never gave any explanation in the history page. It appears to me that you are engaging in sabotage. I will ask for a third opinion. </p> <pre> <a href="/wiki/User:QamarBurtuqali" title="User:QamarBurtuqali">QamarBurtuqali</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:QamarBurtuqali" title="User talk:QamarBurtuqali">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)</a>QamarBurtuqali<span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200-No_explanation_for_a_blanket_revert_in_the_history_page"></span> </pre> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20231109064300-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200"></span>Your listed source isn't reliable, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RS">WP:RS</a>. Additionally, it seems like you are engaged in an edit war on this page with multiple uninvolved editors. I'd recommend raising your concerns on the article talk page and obtaining consensus before making this edit. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231109064300-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:43, 9 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231109064300-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231109064300-QamarBurtuqali-20231108090200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Movies.com_AFD" data-mw-thread-id="h-Movies.com_AFD-20231112085200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Movies.com_AFD-20231112085200"></span><a href="/wiki/Movies.com" title="Movies.com">Movies.com</a> AFD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Movies.com_AFD-20231112085200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Movies.com AFD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Eteethan-20231112085200-Movies.com_AFD"></span>Just <a href="/wiki/For_your_information" class="mw-redirect" title="For your information">FYI</a>, the AfD you reverted was <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1184412873" title="Special:Diff/1184412873">closed</a> as keep so it’s clear that it was meant to happen. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/63.115.34.165" title="Special:Contributions/63.115.34.165">63.115.34.165</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:63.115.34.165" title="User talk:63.115.34.165">talk</a>) 08:05, 10 November 2023 (UTc) </p> <dl><dd>Ok, sounds good! I had no involvement with this AfD, I was just stepping in to revert block evasion. Thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231112085200-Movies.com_AFD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231112085200-Movies.com_AFD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231112085200-Movies.com_AFD"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume" data-mw-thread-id="h-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume-20231110092800"><span id="It.27s_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume-20231110092800"></span>It's really the common IS hostage video costume<span data-mw-comment-end="h-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume-20231110092800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: It's really the common IS hostage video costume"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-94.254.152.192-20231110092800-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"></span>About the symbolism of that: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guantanamo-congress-islamicstate-idUSKBN0L91YF20150205">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guantanamo-congress-islamicstate-idUSKBN0L91YF20150205</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/94.254.152.192" title="Special:Contributions/94.254.152.192">94.254.152.192</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:94.254.152.192" title="User talk:94.254.152.192">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-94.254.152.192-20231110092800-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:28, 10 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-94.254.152.192-20231110092800-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-94.254.152.192-20231110092800-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-94.254.152.192-20231110093600-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"></span>And to the pint that even some reprisal executions of captured IS terrorists would have their own executioners wear these exact costumes ("the orange robes normally worn by victims of the Islamic State") too: <a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://theworld.org/stories/2015-07-01/syrian-rebels-execute-islamic-state-fighters-while-wearing-orange-jumpsuits-their">https://theworld.org/stories/2015-07-01/syrian-rebels-execute-islamic-state-fighters-while-wearing-orange-jumpsuits-their</a> <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a 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id="c-Eteethan-20231112085300-94.254.152.192-20231110093600"></span>This doesn't seem like vandalism, on further review, but I would argue that addition was unnecessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Eteethan" title="User:Eteethan">Eteethan</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-Eteethan-20231112085300-94.254.152.192-20231110093600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:53, 12 November 2023 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Eteethan-20231112085300-94.254.152.192-20231110093600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Eteethan-20231112085300-94.254.152.192-20231110093600"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" 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Also once he began working for them he was given him more regular clothing as if he ceased to being a hostage and joined them (<a rel="nofollow" class="external free" href="https://www.longwarjournal.org/tags/john-cantlie">https://www.longwarjournal.org/tags/john-cantlie</a>), but this was not mentioned and I didn't add it. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/5.173.93.157" title="Special:Contributions/5.173.93.157">5.173.93.157</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:5.173.93.157&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:5.173.93.157 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eteethan#c-5.173.93.157-20231113060700-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-5.173.93.157-20231113060700-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-5.173.93.157-20231113060700-It's_really_the_common_IS_hostage_video_costume"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message" data-mw-thread-id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128004600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128004600"></span>ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message-20231128004600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eteethan&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="ivmbox" style="margin-bottom: 1em; border: 1px solid #AAA; background-color: ivory; padding: 0.5em; display: flex; align-items: center;"> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="padding-left:1px; padding-right:0.5em; flex: 1 0 40px; max-width: 100px"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231128004600-ArbCom_2023_Elections_voter_message"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Scale_of_justice_2.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/40px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="41" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/60px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justice_2.svg/80px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="204" data-file-height="208"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>Hello! 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