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Independent</a>  instead of just the first three paragraphs that I’ve given below.  I didn’t believe the original storyline from the moment I read it. From the original reports I suspected that the US special forces troops had gone in using the wrong weapons, the wrong tactics , and above all the wrong attitude. That, as usual, they’d indulged themselves in the excessive use of violence and that the very person they were supposed to be rescuing was dead as a result. Why? The giveaway was the claim that she’d been killed by one of her captors who was wearing a suicide belt.</p> <p>I find that claim very difficult to believe. Suicide belts are put on just before their wearer goes to attack his target by blowing himself up in his target’s immediate vicinity. In this instance we were supposed to believe that somebody slept in a suicide belt and detonated it as the rescue took place. </p> <p>What in God’s name were the Americans thinking of – chucking fragmentation grenades around in a confined space holding the hostage they were supposed to be rescuing? Then they lied about it. This is the sort of thing that loses you allies fast, and the British government is already under strong political pressure to get to hell out of Afghanistan.</p> <p>There is a term of art in American military parlance, "<em><strong>Clusterfuck</strong></em>" it means a confused and self-destructive military operation.</p> <p style="padding-bottom: 1em; border-bottom: black 1px solid">Du</p> <blockquote><p>The American and British governments’ account of the death of Linda Norgrove in Afghanistan fell apart yesterday, with the revelation that she may have been killed by the US forces sent to free her. </p> <p>David Cameron was forced to retract his announcement that the 36-year-old aid worker had been murdered by one of her captors. Instead, the Prime Minister said, a grenade thrown by an American soldier may have killed her. </p> <p>None of the US special forces taking part initially reported throwing fragmentation grenades near Ms Norgrove, and it only came to light after video footage from head cameras worn by members of the squad was examined.</p> </blockquote> <p><strong>Read in full:</strong> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-grenade-may-have-killed-hostage-cameron-admits-2103969.html" class="external" target="_blank">US grenade may have killed hostage, Cameron admits – Asia, World – The Independent</a></p> <p><strong>Related articles from The Independent :</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/how-the-official-story-of-linda-norgroves-death-unravelled-2103970.html" class="external" target="_blank">How the official story of Linda Norgrove’s death unravelled</a> </li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-the-weight-of-mendacity-2104022.html" class="external" target="_blank">Leading article: The weight of mendacity</a> </li> </ul> <p><strong>Coverage from The Guardian:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/12/barack-obama-condolences-linda-norgrove" class="external" target="_blank">Obama vows to find Norgrove truth </a> </p> <p>President offers condolences over death of British aid worker and promises to get to the bottom of failed rescue </li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/11/linda-norgrove-afghanistan" class="external" target="_blank">British aid worker may have been killed by US</a> </li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/11/linda-norgrove-rescue-operation" class="external" target="_blank">Necessity of rescue operation put into doubt</a> </li> <li><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/oct/11/linda-norgrove-screts-and-lives" class="external" target="_blank">Richard Norton-Taylor: Secrets and lives</a> </li> </ul> <p class="tags"><small>Tags: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/afghanistan/" rel="tag">Afghanistan</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/america/" rel="tag">America</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/british-government/" rel="tag">british government</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/clusterfuck/" rel="tag">Clusterfuck</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/fragmentation-grenades/" rel="tag">fragmentation grenades</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/guardian-the/" rel="tag">Guardian The</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/hostage/" rel="tag">hostage</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/hostages/" rel="tag">Hostages</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/independent-the-uk/" rel="tag">Independent -The (UK)</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/kidnappings/" rel="tag">Kidnappings</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/linda-norgrove/" rel="tag">Linda Norgrove</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/linda-norgrove-killing-of/" rel="tag">Linda Norgrove - killing of</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/suicide-bombers/" rel="tag">suicide bombers</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/suicide-bombingstaliban/" rel="tag">suicide bombings;Taliban</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/us-special-forces/" rel="tag">US special forces</a>, <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://gorillasguides.com/tag/violence/" rel="tag">violence</a></small></p> </div> </div> <!-- You can start editing here. --> <h3 id="comments">One Response to “ A Confused And Self-Destructive Military Operation ”</h3> <div class="navigation"> <div class="alignleft"></div> <div class="alignright"></div> </div> <ol class="commentlist"> <li class="comment even thread-even depth-1" id="li-comment-10896"> <div id="comment-10896"> <div class="comment-avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-author"> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20101018153154/http://website/" rel="external nofollow" class="url external" target="_blank">Graniab</a> on October 13, 2010 at 5:49 pm </div> <div class="comment-text"> <p>This is too sad to even contemplate – I think both the US and Britain wanted a ‘propaganda victory’ above all else. 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