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Functionality of the template can be checked using <b><a href="/wiki/Template:Div_col/testcases" title="Template:Div col/testcases">test cases</a></b>. </p> <div style="padding:0.5em"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1127644699">.mw-parser-output #request_edit_inputbox .commentboxInput,.mw-parser-output #request_edit_inputbox br{display:none}</style> <div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="commentbox" class="commentbox mw-inputbox-form" action="/w/index.php" method="get" id="request_edit_inputbox"><input type="hidden" value="edit" name="action"/><input type="hidden" value="Template:Request edit button/preload" name="preload"/><input type="hidden" value="Edit template-protected" name="preloadparams[]"/><div class="cdx-text-input"><input type="hidden" name="preloadtitle" class="mw-inputbox-input commentboxInput cdx-text-input__input" value="Edit request {{subst:#time:j F Y}}" placeholder="" size="50" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="new" name="section"/><input type="hidden" value="Template talk:Div col" name="title"/><br/><input type="submit" name="create" value="Request edit" class="cdx-button cdx-button--action-progressive cdx-button--weight-primary"/></form></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1230750088">.mw-parser-output .talkheader{text-align:center}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-body{display:flex}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-help,.mw-parser-output .talkheader-policies,.mw-parser-output .talkheader-shortcuts{display:flex;align-items:center;padding:0.1em}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-help{flex:2 1 auto;border:1px solid #c0c090;background-color:var(--background-color-base,#ffffff);color:inherit}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-policies{flex:1 1 auto}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-policies+.talkheader-policies{border-left:1px solid #c0c090}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-shortcuts{flex:0 1 auto}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-help>*,.mw-parser-output .talkheader-policies>*,.mw-parser-output .talkheader-shortcuts>*{flex:1 1 auto}.mw-parser-output .talkheader-help ul,.mw-parser-output .talkheader-policies ul{margin:0.1em 0.8em 0 1.6em;text-align:left}@media(min-width:720px){.mw-parser-output .talkheader{min-width:80%}}</style><table role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice talkheader plainlinks" id="talkheader" style="border-collapse: separate;"><tbody><tr> <td style="border-bottom: 1px solid #c0c090; font-weight: bold;">This is the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines" title="Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines">talk page</a> for discussing improvements to the <a href="/wiki/Template:Div_col" title="Template:Div col">Div col</a> template.<br/></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <div class="talkheader-body"> <div class="talkheader-help"> <ul><li>Put new text under old text. <strong><a href="/wiki/Special:NewSection/Template_talk:Div_col" title="Special:NewSection/Template talk:Div col">Click here to start a new topic.</a></strong></li> <li>New to Wikipedia? 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At certain window sizes (in Chrome at least) the caption gets separated from the image itself. In the two-column version of that page (using "|right" placement), the caption can be widely separated from the image by intervening text flowing to the left of the caption and the right of the image. There are workarounds, but an editor has to know that the problem could occur even if their window width doesn't happen to show any problem. So, it seems like at a minimum the documentation for this template should call out the problem and potential solutions, or, better, the software should automatically avoid this problem with the [File:...] mechanism, either inside that mechanism or in this template mechanism. - <a href="/wiki/User:R._S._Shaw" title="User:R. S. Shaw">R. S. Shaw</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:R._S._Shaw" title="User talk:R. S. Shaw">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500-Orphaned_caption_problem" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500-Orphaned_caption_problem"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500-Orphaned_caption_problem"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240617221500-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500"></span>I am able to reproduce this display problem in Brave for Mac (Vector 2022, desktop view). This bug was reported in 2018 as <a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193163" class="extiw" title="phabricator:T193163">T193163</a>, and it appears to be a bug in Chromium. I have added a note to the documentation. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jonesey95-20240617221500-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240617221500-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240617221500-R._S._Shaw-20240617214500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth"" data-mw-thread-id="h-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth"-20240707210200"><span id="Should_take_.22width.22_and_not_just_.22colwidth.22"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth"-20240707210200"></span>Should take "width" and not just "colwidth"<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth"-20240707210200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Div_col&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: Should take "width" and not just "colwidth""><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JPxG-20240707210200-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth""></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">includeonly</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">templatestyles</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">src</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s2">"Div col/styles.css"</span><span class="p">/></span><span class="cm"></span><span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="na">class</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s2">"div-col </span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#ifeq</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">small</span><span class="p">|}}}|</span>yes<span class="p">|</span>div-col-small<span class="p">}}</span><span class="s2"> </span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#ifeq</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">rules</span><span class="p">|}}}|</span>yes<span class="p">|</span>div-col-rules<span class="p">}}</span><span class="s2"> </span><span class="p">{{{</span><span class="nv">class</span><span class="p">|}}}</span><span class="s2">"</span><span class="w"> </span><span class="cm"></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#if</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">colwidth</span><span class="p">|{{{</span><span class="nv">width</span><span class="p">|}}}}}}{{{</span><span class="nv">gap</span><span class="p">|}}}{{{</span><span class="nv">style</span><span class="p">|}}}|</span><span class="cm"></span>style="<span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#if</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">colwidth</span><span class="p">|{{{</span><span class="nv">width</span><span class="p">|}}}}}}|</span>column-width: <span class="p">{{{</span><span class="nv">colwidth</span><span class="p">|{{{</span><span class="nv">width</span><span class="p">}}}}}}</span>;<span class="p">}}{{</span><span class="nf">#if</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">gap</span><span class="p">|}}}|</span>column-gap: <span class="p">{{{</span><span class="nv">gap</span><span class="p">}}}</span>;<span class="p">}}{{</span><span class="nf">#if</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">style</span><span class="p">|}}}|{{{</span><span class="nv">style</span><span class="p">}}}}}</span>"<span class="cm"></span><span class="p">}}></span><span class="cm"></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#if</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">content</span><span class="p">|}}}|{{{</span><span class="nv">content</span><span class="p">}}}</</span><span class="nt">div</span><span class="p">>}}</span><span class="cm"></span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">#ifeq</span><span class="p">:{{{</span><span class="nv">small</span><span class="p">|}}}|</span>yes<span class="p">|[[</span><span class="nn">Category</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="nt">Pages using div col with small parameter</span><span class="p">]]}}</span><span class="cm"></span><span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">includeonly</span><span class="p">>{{</span><span class="nf">#invoke</span><span class="p">:</span>Check for unknown parameters<span class="p">|</span>check<span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">unknown</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">main other</span><span class="p">|[[</span><span class="nn">Category</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="nt">Pages using div col with unknown parameters</span><span class="p">|</span>_VALUE_<span class="p">{{</span><span class="nf">PAGENAME</span><span class="p">}}]]}}|</span><span class="nl">preview</span><span class="o">=</span>Page using <span class="p">[[</span><span class="nn">Template</span><span class="p">:</span><span class="nt">Div col</span><span class="p">]]</span> with unknown parameter "_VALUE_"; use colwidth= to specify column size <span class="p">|</span><span class="nl">ignoreblank</span><span class="o">=</span>y <span class="p">|</span> class <span class="p">|</span> colwidth <span class="p">|</span> content <span class="p">|</span> gap <span class="p">|</span> rules <span class="p">|</span> small <span class="p">|</span> style <span class="p">}}<</span><span class="nt">noinclude</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p">{{</span><span class="nt">Documentation</span><span class="p">}}</span> <span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">noinclude</span><span class="p">></span> </pre></div> <p>See what I did? There's a <code class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-wikitext mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><span class="p">{{{</span><span class="nv">width</span><span class="p">|}}}</span></code> in this version so that it can work with that param or "colwidth". This shouldn't break anything, but seeing as this is on 400,000 pages I want to run this by someone else for a sanity check first. Is this going to bust anything? <b style="font-family: monospace; color:#E35BD8"><a href="/wiki/User:JPxG" title="User:JPxG"><b style="color:#029D74">jp</b></a>×<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JPxG" title="Special:Contributions/JPxG"><b style="color: #029D74">g</b></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JPxG" title="User talk:JPxG">🗯️</a></b> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-JPxG-20240707210200-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JPxG-20240707210200-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth""><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JPxG-20240707210200-Should_take_"width"_and_not_just_"colwidth""></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WOSlinker-20240707213600-JPxG-20240707210200"></span>I think you also need to add width as an option for the "Check for unknown parameters" part as well. -- <a href="/wiki/User:WOSlinker" title="User:WOSlinker">WOSlinker</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WOSlinker" title="User talk:WOSlinker">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-WOSlinker-20240707213600-JPxG-20240707210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WOSlinker-20240707213600-JPxG-20240707210200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WOSlinker-20240707213600-JPxG-20240707210200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240708004800-WOSlinker-20240707213600"></span>With any widely used template it is usually wise to put new code into the /sandbox version of the template and then create a few test cases on the /testcases page to show that it works without breaking anything. Something as simple as a missing or extra pipe character is easy to put into suggested code, but it will turn up problems on a well constructed testcases page. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jonesey95-20240708004800-WOSlinker-20240707213600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240708004800-WOSlinker-20240707213600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240708004800-WOSlinker-20240707213600"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Izno-20240712110900-JPxG-20240707210200"></span>Well, the change is trivial, so I guess you're asking if you have consensus for it...? I'm not in favor of adding aliases for parameters in templates already widely used as this parameter is. <a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Izno-20240712110900-JPxG-20240707210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Izno-20240712110900-JPxG-20240707210200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Izno-20240712110900-JPxG-20240707210200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Izno-20240712111100-Izno-20240712110900"></span>And actually, a better reason not to use that name is that one might want in some future to make the container have a smaller width rather than set the column width, the name for which would probably best be width. Colwidth alone seems fine. <a href="/wiki/User:Izno" title="User:Izno">Izno</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Izno" title="User talk:Izno">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Izno-20240712111100-Izno-20240712110900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Izno-20240712111100-Izno-20240712110900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Izno-20240712111100-Izno-20240712110900"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240712143400-JPxG-20240707210200"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/20px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png" decoding="async" width="20" height="20" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/30px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg/40px-Red_information_icon_with_gradient_background.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="62" data-file-height="62"/></span></span> <b>Not done for now:</b> please establish a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">consensus</a> for this alteration <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">before</a></b> using the <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Edit_template-protected" title="Template:Edit template-protected">Edit template-protected</a>}}</code> template. I agree with Izno that <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|width=</code> could be confusing and might be useful later for an overall width of the column set. Generally we try to reduce the number of aliases for parameters, not increase them. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jonesey95-20240712143400-JPxG-20240707210200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 12 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240712143400-JPxG-20240707210200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240712143400-JPxG-20240707210200"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width" data-mw-thread-id="h-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width-20240821014500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width-20240821014500"></span>Dynamic column width instead of fixed width<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width-20240821014500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Div_col&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Dynamic column width instead of fixed width"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jkudlick-20240821014500-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width"></span>Is it possible for the column width to be specified as a percentage of the available table or page width? For example, <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Graphic_novel_list" title="Template:Graphic novel list">Graphic novel list</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> renders whitespace in <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|ChapterListCol2=</code> if it doesn't span the same number of rows as <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|ChapterListCol1=</code>; see <a href="/wiki/List_of_Monogatari_novels" title="List of Monogatari novels">List of Monogatari novels</a> for several examples of this whitespace. I have previewed listing the chapters using <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|colwidth=50%</code> and <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|colwidth=40%</code>, but it rendered the columns at 30em. — <a href="/wiki/User:Jkudlick" title="User:Jkudlick">Jkudlick</a> ⚓ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jkudlick" title="User talk:Jkudlick">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jkudlick-20240821014500-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jkudlick-20240821014500-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jkudlick-20240821014500-Dynamic_column_width_instead_of_fixed_width"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20240821041700-Jkudlick-20240821014500"></span>Percentage is not an absolute or relative length unit. Try <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|colwidth=40vw</code> or a similar number between 10 and 50. That says "columns should be 40% of their container's width". Test it by making your window wider and less wide. It works on the template's testcases page. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jonesey95-20240821041700-Jkudlick-20240821014500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20240821041700-Jkudlick-20240821014500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20240821041700-Jkudlick-20240821014500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jkudlick-20240823194800-Jonesey95-20240821041700"></span>Thank you. Perhaps the variable width should be added to the documentation? — <a href="/wiki/User:Jkudlick" title="User:Jkudlick">Jkudlick</a> ⚓ <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jkudlick" title="User talk:Jkudlick">(talk)</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jkudlick-20240823194800-Jonesey95-20240821041700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:48, 23 August 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jkudlick-20240823194800-Jonesey95-20240821041700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jkudlick-20240823194800-Jonesey95-20240821041700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DocWatson42-20241125043600-Jkudlick-20240823194800"></span>Seconded. —<a href="/wiki/User:DocWatson42" title="User:DocWatson42">DocWatson42</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DocWatson42" title="User talk:DocWatson42">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-DocWatson42-20241125043600-Jkudlick-20240823194800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DocWatson42-20241125043600-Jkudlick-20240823194800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DocWatson42-20241125043600-Jkudlick-20240823194800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jonesey95-20241125045700-DocWatson42-20241125043600"></span>You don't have to second anything. See <a href="/wiki/Template:Div_col#Examples" title="Template:Div col">Template:Div col#Examples</a>. – <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jonesey95" title="User talk:Jonesey95">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Jonesey95-20241125045700-DocWatson42-20241125043600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jonesey95-20241125045700-DocWatson42-20241125043600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jonesey95-20241125045700-DocWatson42-20241125043600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DocWatson42-20241125050300-Jonesey95-20241125045700"></span>Oh, well. There had been no reply, so I assumed that it had not been done. —<a href="/wiki/User:DocWatson42" title="User:DocWatson42">DocWatson42</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DocWatson42" title="User talk:DocWatson42">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-DocWatson42-20241125050300-Jonesey95-20241125045700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DocWatson42-20241125050300-Jonesey95-20241125045700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DocWatson42-20241125050300-Jonesey95-20241125045700"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241125190000-Jkudlick-20240821014500"></span>This sounds like an attempt to circumvent the cunsensus arrived at on this talk page to remove the <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|cols=</code> parameter, which was actioned more than six years ago. See <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col/Archive_1#1=_and_2=_and_cols=_no_longer_supported" title="Template talk:Div col/Archive 1">Template talk:Div col/Archive 1#1= and 2= and cols= no longer supported</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64" title="User talk:Redrose64">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Div_col#c-Redrose64-20241125190000-Jkudlick-20240821014500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241125190000-Jkudlick-20240821014500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241125190000-Jkudlick-20240821014500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template-protected_edit_request_on_19_September_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_19_September_2024-20240919124100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_19_September_2024-20240919124100"></span>Template-protected edit request on 19 September 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template-protected_edit_request_on_19_September_2024-20240919124100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Div_col&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Template-protected edit request on 19 September 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Greg_Schiemer-20240919124100-Template-protected_edit_request_on_19_September_2024"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="template"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. 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