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Without doubt. When I first saw the entrance to this place I wondered why eight people were already waiting outside before it opened. It looks nothing from the outside, although parts of Trastevere are very pretty. Rather than the touristy places to eat in Rome here you get a real taste for Italian food (pizza mainly) at its finest. It's totally Italian, no English on the menu. Take a few minutes to see what others are odering, the staff are friendly so don't feel embarrassed to point and say you would like the same! It's tiny, full of character and if you are really lucky a cello player will sing and play to you. One of the best moments in Rome I have ever had.</div><p class="tip_body tip_location"><a target="_new" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=dar+poeta+trastevere+roma&amp;fb=1&amp;split=1&amp;gl=uk&amp;cid=11415002288555541750&amp;li=lmd">maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie;=UTF-8&q;=dar+poeta+trastevere+roma&fb;=1&split;=1&gl;=uk&cid;=11415002288555541750&li;=lmd</a></p><div class="tags"><ol><li><a href="places/italy/rome/"><b>Rome</b></a></li><li> | <a href="places/italy/rome/tips/italy">italy</a></li><li> | <a href="places/italy/rome/tips/budget">budget</a></li><li> | <a href="places/italy/rome/tips/eating">eating</a></li><li> | <a href="places/italy/rome/tips/restaurant">restaurant</a></li></ol></div><div class="rating_percentage"><p class="percentage perc_0_20" id="per-23683">0%</p><p class="agreed">agreed</p></div><div class="rating_people"><p class="number_people" id="peo-23683">0</p><p class="people">people</p></div><div class="tip_msg" id="msg-23683"></div><p class="agree_disagree"><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23683%2C1&amp;action=vote&amp;">I agree</a><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23683%2C0&amp;action=vote&amp;">I disagree</a></p> <!-- how many comments does this tip have? --> <div class="leftcontainer"> <ol class="user_actions"> <li> <img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/comment.gif" alt=""/>&#160;</li> <li> <a href="tips/23683">Updates (0)</a> </li> <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Ftips%2F23683%3Fua%3Dac&amp;action=suggest&amp;">Update this tip</a> </li> <li> &#160;<small>(<a href="articles/more-about-updates.html">What are updates?</a>)</small> </li> <!-- not available yet <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li><a href="javascript:void(reportTip(23683))">Report this tip</a></li> --> </ol> </div> <ol class="user_actions"><li><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/envelope.gif" alt="">&nbsp;</li><li><a href="javascript:sendToFriends(23683)">Send to friends</a></li></ol></div></div><div class="tip" id="tip-23680"><div class="TipHeader"><div class="TipIcon"><a href="tips/23680" title="Permalink"><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/tip.gif"></a></div><div class="tip_title">Dar El Ma</div></div><div class="TipBody"><div class="tip_body">A funky 'hostel' (more like a boutique hotel) bang smack in the middle of Fes Old Town. Rooms are spacious and elegantly-furnished, and the shower room is so fabulous you don't mind sharing it. There's a roof terrace full of sofas (and even an outdoor shower) and also a very useful kitchen and washing machine. Great breakfast, Wi-Fi, cheap rates.</div><p class="tip_body tip_location"><a target="_new" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://www.darelma.com/">www.darelma.com/</a></p><div class="tags"><ol><li><a href="places/morocco/fes/"><b>Fes</b></a></li><li> | <a href="places/morocco/fes/tips/morocco">morocco</a></li><li> | <a href="places/morocco/fes/tips/budget">budget</a></li><li> | <a href="places/morocco/fes/tips/accommodation">accommodation</a></li><li> | <a href="places/morocco/fes/tips/boutique hotel">boutique hotel</a></li><li> | <a href="places/morocco/fes/tips/Boutique Hostel">Boutique Hostel</a></li></ol></div><div class="rating_percentage"><p class="percentage perc_0_20" id="per-23680">0%</p><p class="agreed">agreed</p></div><div class="rating_people"><p class="number_people" id="peo-23680">0</p><p class="people">people</p></div><div class="tip_msg" id="msg-23680"></div><p class="agree_disagree"><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23680%2C1&amp;action=vote&amp;">I agree</a><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23680%2C0&amp;action=vote&amp;">I disagree</a></p> <!-- how many comments does this tip have? --> <div class="leftcontainer"> <ol class="user_actions"> <li> <img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/comment.gif" alt=""/>&#160;</li> <li> <a href="tips/23680">Updates (0)</a> </li> <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Ftips%2F23680%3Fua%3Dac&amp;action=suggest&amp;">Update this tip</a> </li> <li> &#160;<small>(<a href="articles/more-about-updates.html">What are updates?</a>)</small> </li> <!-- not available yet <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li><a href="javascript:void(reportTip(23680))">Report this tip</a></li> --> </ol> </div> <ol class="user_actions"><li><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/envelope.gif" alt="">&nbsp;</li><li><a href="javascript:sendToFriends(23680)">Send to friends</a></li></ol></div></div><div class="tip" id="tip-23618"><div class="TipHeader"><div class="TipIcon"><a href="tips/23618" title="Permalink"><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/tip.gif"></a></div><div class="tip_title">Castle Rock Hostel</div></div><div class="TipBody"><div class="tip_body">Spent a romantic weekend in Edinburgh in this hostel. Would be ideal for a couple trying to do the Edinburgh festival on a budget - private rooms are spacious and there were no stag or hen parties, or drunk backpackers. Housed in a charming 19th century building, the comfortable private rooms mean this is a great alternative to a souless hotel - the rooms have antique furnishings and bags of character, as well as amazing views of the castle. Loved all the art on the walls as well. 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It's a two and a half hour train ride from Rome and with a bit of searching, B&amp;B and self catering accommodation are reasonable. The public swimming pool is located on the edge of the town and even in the heat of August is rarely busy. Prices change year on year but tend to be around 5E for an adult for an all day visit (sun beds are currently free). If you want an Italian holiday and can't afford a three-bedroomed villa with a pool, this is the place for you. The pool is a 15 minute stroll from the centre of town where many of the B&amp;Bs are located. You can wander through the local park, plonk yourself on a sunbed all day and enjoy pizza and a jug of the local wine for under 10E in the charming cafe. Take your own swimming hat (you're not allowed to swim without one) and frolic in the cool, unchlorinated waters.</div><p class="tip_body tip_location">Parco Sportivo "G. 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The view is as good as or even better than Park Hyatt. I've been to Fishbank for drinks and Izakaya En for dinner and both of them were very reasonably priced and food was very good. It's very close to Ginza and Tsukiji but the nearest station is "Shiodome" on Oedo line.</div><p class="tip_body tip_location">Shiodome City Centre <a target="_new" href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://www.shiodome-cc.com/skyview/index.html">www.shiodome-cc.com/skyview/index.html</a></p><div class="tags"><ol><li><a href="places/japan/tokyo/"><b>Tokyo</b></a></li><li> | <a href="places/japan/tokyo/tips/japan">japan</a></li><li> | <a href="places/japan/tokyo/tips/restaurant">restaurant</a></li><li> | <a href="places/japan/tokyo/tips/eating">eating</a></li><li> | <a href="places/japan/tokyo/tips/view">view</a></li><li> | <a href="places/japan/tokyo/tips/bar">bar</a></li></ol></div><div class="rating_percentage"><p class="percentage perc_0_20" id="per-23559">0%</p><p class="agreed">agreed</p></div><div class="rating_people"><p class="number_people" id="peo-23559">0</p><p class="people">people</p></div><div class="tip_msg" id="msg-23559"></div><p class="agree_disagree"><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23559%2C1&amp;action=vote&amp;">I agree</a><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Findex.jsp%3FrateTip%3D23559%2C0&amp;action=vote&amp;">I disagree</a></p> <!-- how many comments does this tip have? --> <div class="leftcontainer"> <ol class="user_actions"> <li> <img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/comment.gif" alt=""/>&#160;</li> <li> <a href="tips/23559">Updates (0)</a> </li> <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li> <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090730035849/http://users.guardian.co.uk/beenthere/get-ticket/1,,,00.html?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ivebeenthere.co.uk%2Ftips%2F23559%3Fua%3Dac&amp;action=suggest&amp;">Update this tip</a> </li> <li> &#160;<small>(<a href="articles/more-about-updates.html">What are updates?</a>)</small> </li> <!-- not available yet <li>&#160;|&#160;</li> <li><a href="javascript:void(reportTip(23559))">Report this tip</a></li> --> </ol> </div> <ol class="user_actions"><li><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/envelope.gif" alt="">&nbsp;</li><li><a href="javascript:sendToFriends(23559)">Send to friends</a></li></ol></div></div><div class="tip" id="tip-23412"><div class="TipHeader"><div class="TipIcon"><a href="tips/23412" title="Permalink"><img src="/web/20090730035849im_/http://www.ivebeenthere.co.uk/i/tip.gif"></a></div><div class="tip_title">Pink and Lily Pub</div></div><div class="TipBody"><div class="tip_body">Haunt of Rupert Brooke, the snug is how he would have known it though the pub has been extended and has excellent beers and good lunches. A quick walk into the nearby woods and you don't need a balloon for stunning views of four counties from the Chiltern escarpment.</div><p class="tip_body tip_location">Princes Risborough station.</p><div class="tags"><ol><li><b>Loosley Row</b></li><li> | <a href="places/united-kingdom/loosley-row/tips/lUnited Kingdom">lUnited Kingdom</a></li><li> | <a href="places/united-kingdom/loosley-row/tips/pub">pub</a></li><li> | <a href="places/united-kingdom/loosley-row/tips/view">view</a></li><li> | <a href="places/united-kingdom/loosley-row/tips/eating">eating</a></li></ol></div><div class="rating_percentage"><p class="percentage perc_0_20" id="per-23412">0%</p><p class="agreed">agreed</p></div><div class="rating_people"><p class="number_people" id="peo-23412">0</p><p class="people">people</p></div><div class="tip_msg" id="msg-23412"></div><p class="agree_disagree"><a 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