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It simply being sourced is not enough. </p><p>I saw you reverted my changes. Verstappen is notable for being a Dutch driver. Norris for being British and Stroll for Canadian. </p><p>The talk page is irrelevant, because this isn't a discussion about content, it's about guidelines and notablity. </p><p>If information like this is trivia, then it's not notable. I will be reverting these back soon due to that. </p><p>The onus is on you or anyone else to show how these second nationalities have been notable to their F1 careers in order to go against the guidelines. Simply being born there or having a flag on their helmet or having a parent from there is not enough for notability. They need to have either raced for that country or have done some other work outside F1, such as becoming a politician there etc. <a href="/wiki/User:Basetornado" title="User:Basetornado">Basetornado</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basetornado" title="User talk:Basetornado">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Basetornado-20241004164900-Nationality_and_notability." class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basetornado-20241004164900-Nationality_and_notability."><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basetornado-20241004164900-Nationality_and_notability."></span> </p> <dl><dd><ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241004183100-Basetornado-20241004164900"></span>No clear consensus has been reached.</li> <li>Norris and Stroll may be changeable, Verstappen's cannot. Verstappen's career spans his being a Belgian national, where he has been quoted regarding his Belgian nationality on par with his Dutch.</li> <li>See other sportsperson articles throughout English Wikipedia, where dual nationalities are consistently stated if notable enough. The MOS makes it clear of that. Your perception of the MOS skips the very first sentence, that clearly states that a "country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident" may be stated in the lead. As discussed, F1 is a tricky one as several drivers are very much multi-national (rich kids) but choose to race under certain flags. The phrase "competing under the x flag" covers this without glossing over their actual nationality.</li></ul></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241004183100-Basetornado-20241004164900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:31, 4 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241004183100-Basetornado-20241004164900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241004183100-Basetornado-20241004164900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Basetornado-20241005005400-Mb2437-20241004183100"></span>Again it is irrelevant if he's a dual national. It's only relevant what he is notable for.</dd> <dd>The MOS says "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for that which made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable."</dd> <dd>"In most" is the important bit there.</dd> <dd>Other dual nationalitys are listed if they played the sport for both. Verstappen hasn't. <a href="/wiki/User:Basetornado" title="User:Basetornado">Basetornado</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Basetornado" title="User talk:Basetornado">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Basetornado-20241005005400-Mb2437-20241004183100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:54, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Basetornado-20241005005400-Mb2437-20241004183100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Basetornado-20241005005400-Mb2437-20241004183100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241005135900-Basetornado-20241005005400"></span>It is incorrect to gloss over his Belgian nationality, much like it is incorrect to gloss over Alex Albon's British nationality because he's notable for being Thai. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241005135900-Basetornado-20241005005400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241005135900-Basetornado-20241005005400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241005135900-Basetornado-20241005005400"></span> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-SSSB-20241005152400-Mb2437-20241005135900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Basetornado" title="User:Basetornado">Basetornado</a> and <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a>:</span> It is inappropraite to actively discuss the same topic in more than 1 place (I count at least 3), as it could be interpreted as <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORUMSHOPPING" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORUMSHOPPING">WP:FORUMSHOPPING</a>. As an aside, nobody is suggesting we "gloss over" it. Just that it doesn't need to be mentioned in the opening paragraph of the lead. <a href="/wiki/User:SSSB" title="User:SSSB">SSSB</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:SSSB" title="User talk:SSSB">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-SSSB-20241005152400-Mb2437-20241005135900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:24, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-SSSB-20241005152400-Mb2437-20241005135900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-SSSB-20241005152400-Mb2437-20241005135900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="BRD" data-mw-thread-id="h-BRD-20241005194600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-BRD-20241005194600"></span>BRD<span data-mw-comment-end="h-BRD-20241005194600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: BRD"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyrope-20241005194600-BRD"></span>Please go read <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a>. If someone has an issue with your edits, you discuss those issues. You do not simply revert their reversion; that way lies edit warring. Also, you appear to have reverted one of your own edits, that I simply reinstated after I removed your recitation of Prost's junior career. You left a very strange edit summary for that one. How is "1981-1983" less correct than "1981-83"? <a href="/wiki/User:Pyrope" title="User:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#92000a">Pyrop</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyrope" title="User talk:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#CE2029">e</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Pyrope-20241005194600-BRD" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:46, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyrope-20241005194600-BRD"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyrope-20241005194600-BRD"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241005200000-Pyrope-20241005194600"></span>Sport seasons are generally listed as whole years when contested over a calendar year, see every other F1 page. It was also a matter of inconsistency between sections. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241005200000-Pyrope-20241005194600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:00, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241005200000-Pyrope-20241005194600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241005200000-Pyrope-20241005194600"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyrope-20241005200600-Mb2437-20241005200000"></span>Yes. So why did you change it back to "1981-83"? <a href="/wiki/User:Pyrope" title="User:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#92000a">Pyrop</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyrope" title="User talk:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#CE2029">e</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Pyrope-20241005200600-Mb2437-20241005200000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:06, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyrope-20241005200600-Mb2437-20241005200000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyrope-20241005200600-Mb2437-20241005200000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241005200800-Pyrope-20241005200600"></span>Did I? Apologies, I thought it was the other way around. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241005200800-Pyrope-20241005200600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241005200800-Pyrope-20241005200600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241005200800-Pyrope-20241005200600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pyrope-20241005201100-Mb2437-20241005200800"></span>It's a good idea to have a think about what you are doing before you hit "Publish changes". That also goes for reverting a properly reasoned adjustment of your own work. Your edit had multiple issues, and you were not justified in simply reverting back to it. <a href="/wiki/User:Pyrope" title="User:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#92000a">Pyrop</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pyrope" title="User talk:Pyrope"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:#CE2029">e</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Pyrope-20241005201100-Mb2437-20241005200800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pyrope-20241005201100-Mb2437-20241005200800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pyrope-20241005201100-Mb2437-20241005200800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241005225300-Pyrope-20241005201100"></span>Yeah I had a low-IQ moment, I read it as two separate reversions for whatever reason, apologies. As for the reversion itself, the quality of that lead is a literary atrocity that needs rectifying, with unnecessary details in the wrong areas. A wider edit of the lead is being worked on currently, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Formula_One" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Formula One</a>. Junior championships are far more notable than details such as the whole paragraph about his driving style and "personal heroes", and the opening paragraph's details about Schumacher breaking his win record were unnecessary. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241005225300-Pyrope-20241005201100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:53, 5 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241005225300-Pyrope-20241005201100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241005225300-Pyrope-20241005201100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8-20241008075600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8-20241008075600"></span>Disambiguation link notification for October 8<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8-20241008075600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for October 8"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20241008075600-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Jochen_Rindt" title="Jochen Rindt">Jochen Rindt</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Endurance_racing" class="mw-redirect mw-disambig" title="Endurance racing">Endurance racing</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-DPL_bot-20241008075600-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:56, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20241008075600-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20241008075600-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_8"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="October_2024" data-mw-thread-id="h-October_2024-20241011150100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-October_2024-20241011150100"></span>October 2024<span data-mw-comment-end="h-October_2024-20241011150100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: October 2024"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241011150100-October_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/30px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="26" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/45px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/60px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span></span> You currently appear to be engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a> according to the reverts you have made on <a href="/wiki/Kimi_R%C3%A4ikk%C3%B6nen" title="Kimi Räikkönen">Kimi Räikkönen</a>. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#In_talk_pages" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">collaborate</a> with others, to avoid editing <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing" title="Wikipedia:Disruptive editing">disruptively</a>, and to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus" title="Wikipedia:Consensus">try to reach a consensus</a>, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. </p><p>Points to note: </p> <ol><li><b>Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;</b></li> <li><b>Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.</b></li></ol> <p>If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's <a href="/wiki/Help:Talk_pages" title="Help:Talk pages">talk page</a> to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Noticeboards" title="Wikipedia:Noticeboards">appropriate noticeboard</a> or seek <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution" title="Wikipedia:Dispute resolution">dispute resolution</a>. In some cases, it may be appropriate to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection" title="Wikipedia:Requests for page protection">request temporary page protection</a>. If you engage in an edit war, you <b>may be <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked</a> from editing.</b> <i>You really should know better at this point and really need to accept that not everyone on this site has to agree with you no matter how right you may think you are.</i> <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241011150100-October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241011150100-October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241011150100-October_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241011150700-TylerBurden-20241011150100"></span>Your protectionism at <a href="/wiki/Kimi_R%C3%A4ikk%C3%B6nen" title="Kimi Räikkönen">Kimi Räikkönen</a> has been clear from previous discussions dating back to 2022, including an edit-war warning for repeatedly removing the justified <i>excessive detail</i> tag. My edits (including updated iterations to reach an amicable solution per discussions) served to address this issue that you have refused to let be fixed. Get over yourself fella. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241011150700-TylerBurden-20241011150100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241011150700-TylerBurden-20241011150100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241011150700-TylerBurden-20241011150100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241011151100-Mb2437-20241011150700"></span>So now we're adding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PA">WP:PA</a>'s to the growing list of behavioural issues. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241011151100-Mb2437-20241011150700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:11, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241011151100-Mb2437-20241011150700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241011151100-Mb2437-20241011150700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241011151600-TylerBurden-20241011151100"></span>Your note at the end was a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PA">WP:PA</a> offense. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241011151600-TylerBurden-20241011151100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241011151600-TylerBurden-20241011151100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241011151600-TylerBurden-20241011151100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241011152300-Mb2437-20241011151600"></span>Not remotely, it seems you are simply unable to accept that people think some of your edits are not improvements, which is a belief expressed by multiple people including myself. You made a post on a Wikiproject and am now insisting every Formula One driver article meets your preferred standards, citing said post on Wikiproject, edit warring and now personally attacking the people that do not agree with this standard.</dd> <dd>But by all means, report my "offense", it would lead to a much needed examination by administrators into your own behaviour. Wikipedia is a collaborative project. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241011152300-Mb2437-20241011151600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241011152300-Mb2437-20241011151600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241011152300-Mb2437-20241011151600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241011152800-TylerBurden-20241011152300"></span>Exactly, it is a collaborative project: collaborate with me on improving the article, it has an excessive detail warning that is justified from the very first sentence. Your refusal to accept a middle-ground doesn't help this article in achieving GA/FA status. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241011152800-TylerBurden-20241011152300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241011152800-TylerBurden-20241011152300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241011152800-TylerBurden-20241011152300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241019102400-October_2024"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Information.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/25px-Information.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/38px-Information.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/50px-Information.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="256" data-file-height="256"/></a></span> Thank you for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mb2437" title="Special:Contributions/Mb2437">your contributions</a> to Wikipedia. However, in your recent edit to <a href="/wiki/Keke_Rosberg" title="Keke Rosberg">Keke Rosberg</a>, you added <a href="/wiki/Help:Link" title="Help:Link">links</a> to an article which did not add content or meaning, or repeated the same link several times throughout the article. Please see <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Linking" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Linking">Wikipedia's guideline on links</a> to avoid overlinking. <i>Apparently you need to be formally told about this, you keep adding ″see also″ sections just to add a link that is already present.</i> <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241019102400-October_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241019102400-October_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241019102400-October_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241019115600-TylerBurden-20241019102400"></span>There is no rule against doing this, it simply reaffirms a wikilink that may be lost in the text to the reader. All relevant lists and the like are typically placed there; might I also add that it was your suggestion to add it to <i>see also</i>. If preference has to be chosen, then the infobox is definitely a better place for it, but adding extra sections shouldn't be a major concern when they're not in the main body of the article. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241019115600-TylerBurden-20241019102400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241019115600-TylerBurden-20241019102400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241019115600-TylerBurden-20241019102400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241019160300-Mb2437-20241019115600"></span>I never suggested you spam the link multiple times in the article, I suggested that if you can't fit it in naturally then such a section can be used.. it's "see also" <a href="/wiki/MOS:NOTSEEAGAIN" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:NOTSEEAGAIN">MOS:NOTSEEAGAIN</a>. It goes against common sense adding an entire section just to repeat links that are already included on the article. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241019160300-Mb2437-20241019115600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241019160300-Mb2437-20241019115600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241019160300-Mb2437-20241019115600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241019161300-TylerBurden-20241019160300"></span>Feel free to go through and rectify it then. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241019161300-TylerBurden-20241019160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241019161300-TylerBurden-20241019160300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241019161300-TylerBurden-20241019160300"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241019161600-TylerBurden-20241019160300"></span>You don't need to come to my talk page every time you have an issue with an edit I make, leave whatever notes you may have in your respective edit summaries and we can discuss further if there's disagreement. It's petulant and doesn't help us reach a solution. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241019161600-TylerBurden-20241019160300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241019161600-TylerBurden-20241019160300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241019161600-TylerBurden-20241019160300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241019162600-Mb2437-20241019161600"></span>I did, multiple times, and you kept doing the same thing, hence the "apparently you need to be formally told about this".</dd> <dd>If you're going to edit live articles you should expect feedback like anyone else when you make questionable edits, if you can't handle that perhaps you should stick to your sandbox. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241019162600-Mb2437-20241019161600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241019162600-Mb2437-20241019161600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241019162600-Mb2437-20241019161600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241019164300-TylerBurden-20241019162600"></span>"Multiple times"... you did so once at <a href="/wiki/Gunnar_Nilsson" title="Gunnar Nilsson">Gunnar Nilsson</a>. It's not that deep at the end of the day; it's a minute detail that doesn't require you lose your marbles because you hold contempt for me and my editing style. You could have simply added this as a note to the discussion at the WP and left it at that. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241019164300-TylerBurden-20241019162600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:43, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241019164300-TylerBurden-20241019162600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241019164300-TylerBurden-20241019162600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-TylerBurden-20241023201000-Mb2437-20241019164300"></span>Nope, did it on every impacted article on my watchlist, which was more than the Nilsson article. You evidently either weren't looking or simply ignoring the point.</dd> <dd>What are you even on about? Losing marbles? It seems you have no concept of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CIVIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CIVIL">WP:CIVIL</a>, and as I mentioned above take any criticism as a personal attack, that is not compatible with editing on collaborative project. So if you're going to keep the attitude up, I have no problem taking the issue to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/I" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:AN/I">WP:AN/I</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:TylerBurden" title="User:TylerBurden">TylerBurden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:TylerBurden" title="User talk:TylerBurden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-TylerBurden-20241023201000-Mb2437-20241019164300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-TylerBurden-20241023201000-Mb2437-20241019164300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-TylerBurden-20241023201000-Mb2437-20241019164300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241023202500-TylerBurden-20241023201000"></span>I did look through every article I'd edited to double check that point before I made it. The <i>see also</i> sections haven't been removed on earlier edits (probably about 20 of them), but haven't been added recently. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241023202500-TylerBurden-20241023201000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241023202500-TylerBurden-20241023201000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241023202500-TylerBurden-20241023201000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15" data-mw-thread-id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15-20241015075300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15-20241015075300"></span>Disambiguation link notification for October 15<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15-20241015075300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Disambiguation link notification for October 15"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DPL_bot-20241015075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15"></span>An automated process has detected that when you recently edited <a href="/wiki/Chris_Amon" title="Chris Amon">Chris Amon</a>, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page <a href="/wiki/Tyrrell" class="mw-disambig" title="Tyrrell">Tyrrell</a>. </p><p>(<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">Opt-out instructions</a>.) --<a href="/wiki/User:DPL_bot" title="User:DPL bot">DPL bot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DPL_bot" title="User talk:DPL bot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-DPL_bot-20241015075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:53, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DPL_bot-20241015075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DPL_bot-20241015075300-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_October_15"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace" data-mw-thread-id="h-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace-20241024012400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace-20241024012400"></span><a href="/wiki/Draft:Andrea_Margutti_Trophy" title="Draft:Andrea Margutti Trophy">Andrea Margutti Trophy</a> moved to draftspace<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace-20241024012400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Andrea Margutti Trophy moved to draftspace"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Significa_liberdade-20241024012400-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace"></span>Thanks for your contributions to <a href="/wiki/Draft:Andrea_Margutti_Trophy" title="Draft:Andrea Margutti Trophy">Andrea Margutti Trophy</a>. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because <b>it needs more sources to establish notability</b>. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while. </p><p>Please see more information at <a href="/wiki/Help:Unreviewed_new_page" title="Help:Unreviewed new page">Help:Unreviewed new page</a>. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. <a href="/wiki/User:Significa_liberdade" title="User:Significa liberdade">Significa liberdade <small>(she/her)</small></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Significa_liberdade" title="User talk:Significa liberdade">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Significa_liberdade-20241024012400-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Significa_liberdade-20241024012400-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Significa_liberdade-20241024012400-Andrea_Margutti_Trophy_moved_to_draftspace"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp-20241024031900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp-20241024031900"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Michele Alboreto 1985.webp (page does not exist)">File:Michele Alboreto 1985.webp</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp-20241024031900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of File:Michele Alboreto 1985.webp"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Whpq-20241024031900-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="File:Michele Alboreto 1985.webp (page does not exist)">File:Michele Alboreto 1985.webp</a> requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. 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Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_policies" title="Wikipedia:List of policies">Wikipedia's policies and guidelines</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Whpq" title="User:Whpq">Whpq</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Whpq" title="User talk:Whpq">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Whpq-20241024031900-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Whpq-20241024031900-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Whpq-20241024031900-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_File:Michele_Alboreto_1985.webp"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Williams_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Williams_links-20241024093100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Williams_links-20241024093100"></span>Williams links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Williams_links-20241024093100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: Williams links"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DH85868993-20241024093100-Williams_links"></span>Hi Mb2437. I was wondering why you are changing links to "Williams Grand Prix Engineering" to "Williams Racing", as you did in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ralf_Schumacher&diff=1252957580&oldid=1250553416">this edit</a>. The article is located at <a href="/wiki/Williams_Grand_Prix_Engineering" class="mw-redirect" title="Williams Grand Prix Engineering">Williams Grand Prix Engineering</a>, so you're actually introducing an unnecessary redirect. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:DH85868993" title="User:DH85868993">DH85868993</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DH85868993" title="User talk:DH85868993">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-DH85868993-20241024093100-Williams_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:31, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DH85868993-20241024093100-Williams_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DH85868993-20241024093100-Williams_links"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241024093700-DH85868993-20241024093100"></span>Ah apologies, I was under the impression it was at Williams Racing for whatever reason. A move is probably warranted there to be fair per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:COMMONNAME" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:COMMONNAME">WP:COMMONNAME</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241024093700-DH85868993-20241024093100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241024093700-DH85868993-20241024093100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241024093700-DH85868993-20241024093100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Placename_links_in_infoboxes" data-mw-thread-id="h-Placename_links_in_infoboxes-20241102022700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Placename_links_in_infoboxes-20241102022700"></span>Placename links in infoboxes<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Placename_links_in_infoboxes-20241102022700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Placename links in infoboxes"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700-Placename_links_in_infoboxes"></span>Hi, not sure why you're piping the names of counties and states within links to towns and villages? Nothing in the MOS suggests to do that unless I'm mistaken. In the MOS: <i>"For a geographical location expressed as a sequence of two or more territorial units, link only the first unit."</i> It uses the example: <i>(<a href="/wiki/Quothquan" title="Quothquan">Quothquan</a>, South Lanarkshire, Scotland)</i>. So in George Russell's case, it's <i><a href="/wiki/King%27s_Lynn" title="King's Lynn">King's Lynn</a>, Norfolk</i>, not <i><a href="/wiki/King%27s_Lynn,_Norfolk" class="mw-redirect" title="King's Lynn, Norfolk">King's Lynn, Norfolk</a></i>. You were actually linking to a redirect with no reason. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Bretonbanquet" title="User:Bretonbanquet">Bretonbanquet</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bretonbanquet" title="User talk:Bretonbanquet">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700-Placename_links_in_infoboxes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700-Placename_links_in_infoboxes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700-Placename_links_in_infoboxes"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241102155300-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700"></span>Apologies, I was under the impression you could pipe state/county names. Nothing wrong with using a redirect per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NOTBROKEN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NOTBROKEN">WP:NOTBROKEN</a>, but will try to keep within that example for consistency. Only one I partially reverted was <a href="/wiki/Jochen_Mass" title="Jochen Mass">Jochen Mass</a>, who was specifically born in <a href="/wiki/Allied-occupied_Germany" title="Allied-occupied Germany">Allied-occupied Germany</a>, long before the modern state was established. As it was a state that existed <i>de jure</i>, it should be stated as such. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241102155300-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241102155300-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241102155300-Bretonbanquet-20241102022700"></span></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bretonbanquet-20241102161300-Mb2437-20241102155300"></span>No worries. Yes, linking to redirects is alright within reason, but we shouldn't be creating them as a matter of course. The Mass example, though, I disagree with. It was just referred to at the time as Germany, as I understand it, and that was the name of the country. The article you link to is a description of the political situation there at the time, rather than the actual name of the country, and I'm not sure the infobox is the place to talk about political governance at the time of the subject's birth. It could be mentioned and linked to in the article body though, possibly, maybe with a link to <a href="/wiki/American_occupation_zone_in_Germany" title="American occupation zone in Germany">American occupation zone in Germany</a>, which is technically more accurate and descriptive. 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In a recent edit, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#National_varieties_of_English" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style">respect national varieties of English</a> in Wikipedia articles. </p><p>For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use <a href="/wiki/British_English" title="British English">British English</a>. For something related to the United States in the same way, use <a href="/wiki/American_English" title="American English">American English</a>. 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Thank you. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300-November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300-November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300-November_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Driver_development_program" title="Driver development program"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300"></span>Driver development program</a> was originally written in American English and covers NASCAR as well as F1; it should not have been moved and I will be going to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:RM/TR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:RM/TR">WP:RM/TR</a> to correct this. ―<span style="background:#368ec9;border:solid 2px;border-radius:5px"> <i><b><a href="/wiki/User_talk:GhostOfDanGurney" title="User talk:GhostOfDanGurney"><span style="color:white">"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)</span></a></b></i> </span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241112011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400"></span>Apologies for the pain, I didn't realise the wider importance. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241112011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241112011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241112011400-GhostOfDanGurney-20241112003400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-20241123145300-November_2024"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img alt="Stop icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/30px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/45px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f1/Stop_hand_nuvola.svg/60px-Stop_hand_nuvola.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><p> Your recent editing history at <a href="/wiki/Andrea_Kimi_Antonelli" title="Andrea Kimi Antonelli">Andrea Kimi Antonelli</a> shows that you are currently engaged in an <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">edit war</a>; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. 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In some cases, you may wish to request temporary <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Protection_policy" title="Wikipedia:Protection policy">page protection</a>. </p><p><b>Being involved in an edit war can result in you being <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy" title="Wikipedia:Blocking policy">blocked from editing</a></b>—especially if you violate the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule" title="Wikipedia:Edit warring">three-revert rule</a>, which states that an editor must not perform more than three <a href="/wiki/Help:Reverting" title="Help:Reverting">reverts</a> on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—<b>even if you do not violate the three-revert rule</b>—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. <a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Bbb23-20241123145300-November_2024" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-20241123145300-November_2024"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-20241123145300-November_2024"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241123150000-Bbb23-20241123145300"></span>Reverting vandalism is not edit warring. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241123150000-Bbb23-20241123145300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241123150000-Bbb23-20241123145300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241123150000-Bbb23-20241123145300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bbb23-20241123153500-Mb2437-20241123150000"></span>The user's edits are <i>not</i> vandalism. I wouldn't test that if I were you. I assure you I won't hesitate to block you if you revert again.--<a href="/wiki/User:Bbb23" title="User:Bbb23">Bbb23</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bbb23" title="User talk:Bbb23">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Bbb23-20241123153500-Mb2437-20241123150000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bbb23-20241123153500-Mb2437-20241123150000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bbb23-20241123153500-Mb2437-20241123150000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241124210000-Bbb23-20241123153500"></span>The SPA's edits plastered the article with editorial conjecture that the subject's career was "failing" in almost every section, including the lead. The majority of the edits were malicious examples of original research with no regard to maintaining an NPOV or verifiability, to me that goes against <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:VANDAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:VANDAL">WP:VANDAL</a>; I can see why one would regard it as falling under a <i>lack of understanding of the purpose of Wikipedia</i>, but it could appear to one as though these edits were intended to disparage the subject. I opened a discussion with the user before <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:3RR">WP:3RR</a>, whose reply was to accuse me of being "a biased fan". 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Full names should almost always be given anyways when they aren't the main subject of the article- I understand how this can be easy to forget (I've made similar mistakes). <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Sandcat555-20241123030300-A_note_on_common_knowledge" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241123030300-A_note_on_common_knowledge"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241123030300-A_note_on_common_knowledge"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241123092100-Sandcat555-20241123030300"></span>It was not my mistake, these articles were not linked before so I assumed they had been previously mentioned, condensing them to surnames. Apologies for not checking this. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241123092100-Sandcat555-20241123030300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241123092100-Sandcat555-20241123030300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241123092100-Sandcat555-20241123030300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sandcat555-20241123183700-Mb2437-20241123092100"></span>All good! no worries <a href="/wiki/User:Sandcat555" title="User:Sandcat555">Sandcat555</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sandcat555" title="User talk:Sandcat555">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Sandcat555-20241123183700-Mb2437-20241123092100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sandcat555-20241123183700-Mb2437-20241123092100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sandcat555-20241123183700-Mb2437-20241123092100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="George_Russell_article_priorities" data-mw-thread-id="h-George_Russell_article_priorities-20241125205000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-George_Russell_article_priorities-20241125205000"></span>George Russell article priorities<span data-mw-comment-end="h-George_Russell_article_priorities-20241125205000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: George Russell article priorities"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namelessposter-20241125205000-George_Russell_article_priorities"></span>I've been editing various sections as I go along and was curious about what direction you have in mind for the article. I thought the junior driver section needed quite a bit of cutting - we don't really need blow-by-blow junior race summaries for a six-year F1 veteran. I'm pretty happy with the Williams section following my edits, although it could be tighter of course. I'm a little unsure how to address Mercedes since it still feels like current events, although as a Russell fan even I think his 2023 was quite disappointing. Please let me know your thoughts. <a href="/wiki/User:Namelessposter" title="User:Namelessposter">Namelessposter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Namelessposter" title="User talk:Namelessposter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Namelessposter-20241125205000-George_Russell_article_priorities" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namelessposter-20241125205000-George_Russell_article_priorities"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namelessposter-20241125205000-George_Russell_article_priorities"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mb2437-20241125205500-Namelessposter-20241125205000"></span>It can still be discussed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NPOV">neutrally</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CHRONO" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CHRONO">chronologically</a>, with sourced quotes and statements to verify information. I agree his season was disappointing, but the entire prose felt like a list of his errors rather than running through his results impartially. Far too much <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:UNDUE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:UNDUE">undue weight</a>. Our opinion on his season doesn't matter anyway, opinionated statements must follow the MOS and be agreed upon by secondary, independent sources. <a href="/wiki/User:Mb2437" title="User:Mb2437">Mb2437</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Mb2437-20241125205500-Namelessposter-20241125205000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mb2437-20241125205500-Namelessposter-20241125205000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mb2437-20241125205500-Namelessposter-20241125205000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Namelessposter-20241125210100-Mb2437-20241125205500"></span>OK, thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:Namelessposter" title="User:Namelessposter">Namelessposter</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Namelessposter" title="User talk:Namelessposter">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-Namelessposter-20241125210100-Mb2437-20241125205500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Namelessposter-20241125210100-Mb2437-20241125205500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Namelessposter-20241125210100-Mb2437-20241125205500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Copyvio_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Copyvio_template-20241125231500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Copyvio_template-20241125231500"></span>Copyvio template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Copyvio_template-20241125231500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Copyvio template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-JayCubby-20241125231500-Copyvio_template"></span>Thanks for the catch there! <span style="color: #1a237e; background-color: #fff176; font-weight: bold;"><a href="/wiki/User:JayCubby" title="User:JayCubby">JayCubby</a></span> <span style="color: #fff176; background-color: #1a237e; font-weight: bold;"><a href="/wiki/User_talk:JayCubby" title="User talk:JayCubby">Talk</a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mb2437#c-JayCubby-20241125231500-Copyvio_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-JayCubby-20241125231500-Copyvio_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-JayCubby-20241125231500-Copyvio_template"></span> </p>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&oldid=1259584411">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mb2437&oldid=1259584411</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 25 November 2024, at 23:15<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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