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Guines is correct. <a href="/wiki/User:Celia_Homeford" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Celia Homeford">Celia Homeford</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Celia_Homeford" title="User talk:Celia Homeford">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900-Guines" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900-Guines"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900-Guines"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240208171700-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900"></span>Understood. Thank you. AWD changed that and I did not notice it, but I should have. <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Kaltenmeyer-20240208171700-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240208171700-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240208171700-Celia_Homeford-20240208085900"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Publisher_param_in_citations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Publisher_param_in_citations-20240216044000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Publisher_param_in_citations-20240216044000"></span>Publisher param in citations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Publisher_param_in_citations-20240216044000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaltenmeyer&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Publisher param in citations"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20240216044000-Publisher_param_in_citations"></span>Please do not remove publisher parameters in citations for newspapers, magazines, or websites, as in <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1207894039" title="Special:Diff/1207894039">this edit</a> at <a href="/wiki/Transphobia" title="Transphobia">Transphobia</a>. You linked <a href="/wiki/Cite_news#Publisher" class="mw-redirect" title="Cite news">Cite news#Publisher</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cite_web#Publisher" title="Cite web">Cite web#Publisher</a>, <a href="/wiki/Cite_magazine#Publisher" class="mw-redirect" title="Cite magazine">Cite magazine#Publisher</a> in support of your removal, but none of those support your claim, although I can kind of see how one could read it at first glance. I'm guessing that your take rests on a misunderstanding of this statement (this one is from from Cite news): </p> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1237805129">.mw-parser-output .talkquote{color:var(--color-base,#202122);background-color:#eaf8f4;border-left:3px solid #008560;padding:0 .8em;margin:0}.mw-parser-output .talkquote-by,.mw-parser-output .talkquote-source{margin-left:1.6em}.mw-parser-output .skin-vector-2022 .talkquote>:last-child{padding-bottom:0}@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .talkquote{background-color:#0d261f}}</style><blockquote class="talkquote"><p>Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.).</p></blockquote></dd></dl> <p>If I guessed wrong, you can skip the rest of this, and we can discuss. If that is what it was, look at what it is saying; I think maybe adding an example or two might clarify: </p> <dl><dd><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.); that is: don't write <small><code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=Wall Street Journal</code></small>; the WSJ is published by <a href="/wiki/Dow_Jones_%26_Company" title="Dow Jones & Company">Dow Jones & Company</a>; don't write <small><code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=World Book Encyclopedia</code></small>, write <small><code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=Scott Fetzer Company</code></small>, and so on.</q></dd></dl> <p>The citation doc is just saying not to use the website name, the encyclopedia name, the newspaper name, or the magazine name in the publisher field. In other parts of the citation doc, it says not to use pub. at all, when it duplicates the name; for example, no need to write <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|magazine=Time</code> <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=Time, Inc.</code>, and on top of that, <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|publisher=</code> is not the most important parameter to establish <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">verifiability</a> (which is why I didn't bother reverting that edit, because your edit didn't hurt verifiability), but if it's already there, and not a duplicate of the title, then there's no reason to remove it. </p><p>Do you think those passages are unclear? Maybe it's poorly worded. If you feel you got tripped up by the doc, this wouldn't by the first time I've changed the citation documentation to improve it. Or if you feel you know what it should say to be clearer, feel free to take a shot at it. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Mathglot-20240216044000-Publisher_param_in_citations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20240216044000-Publisher_param_in_citations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20240216044000-Publisher_param_in_citations"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100-Mathglot-20240216044000"></span>Hello,</dd> <dd>My edits were based on this language for the publisher field: "Not normally used for periodicals." This appears in <a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news#Publisher" title="Template:Cite news">Template:Cite_news#Publisher</a> and similar language appears in the other pages cited. It it means what it says, then the publisher "Here Publishing" would not normally be used for the periodical "The Advocate" and can be deleted. Also, if you would like to have this discussion in the talk page of a template where more people can join in, that is fine also. I want to make sure that I am following what is intended by the language in <a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_news#Publisher" title="Template:Cite news">Template:Cite_news#Publisher</a> and similar pages. <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100-Mathglot-20240216044000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100-Mathglot-20240216044000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100-Mathglot-20240216044000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20240217020700-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100"></span>Aha, so periodicals = no (not normally), and books, journal articles, encyclopedias = yes? Or, is an encyclopedia a periodical, too, if it came out every few years, like print versions of EB used to, before they (and just about every other encyclopedia publisher) stopped publishing print versions? Could get squirrelly, with <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_proceedings" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cite proceedings">cite proceedings</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> and other flavors being 'no' if they are a one-shot (or irregular?) conference, and 'yes' if they occur regularly? And what about <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Cite_AV_media" title="Template:Cite AV media">cite AV media</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span> for stuff on YouTube, same question, sometimes no (1-shots), sometimes yes if it's episodes of a series? I'd like to make sure I'm following it, too; seems like it's confusing and ought to be clarified. I'm buried in a few other template issues, but if you start a discussion, I'll watch, and participate if I can. Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Mathglot-20240217020700-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20240217020700-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20240217020700-Kaltenmeyer-20240216143100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200-Mathglot-20240217020700"></span>I don't personally think of an encyclopedia or episodic series as periodicals.</dd> <dd>You might also be interested in this language at <a href="/wiki/Help:Citation_Style_1" title="Help:Citation Style 1">Help:Citation_Style_1</a></dd> <dd>The "publisher" parameter should not be included for widely-known mainstream news sources, for major academic journals, or where it would be the same or mostly the same as the work. For example, the "publisher" parameter should be omitted in these examples:</dd> <dd>|work=<a href="/w/index.php?title=Amazon.%E2%81%A0com&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Amazon.⁠com (page does not exist)">Amazon.⁠com</a>|publisher=Amazon Inc.</dd> <dd>|newspaper=The Aberdeen Times|publisher=The Aberdeen Times</dd> <dd>|newspaper=<a href="/wiki/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times">The New York Times</a>|publisher=The New York Times Company</dd> <dd>|newspaper=<a href="/wiki/USA_Today" title="USA Today">USA Today</a>|publisher=<a href="/wiki/Gannett_Company" class="mw-redirect" title="Gannett Company">Gannett Company</a></dd> <dd>|journal=<a href="/wiki/Nature_(journal)" title="Nature (journal)">Nature</a>|publisher=<a href="/wiki/Nature_Research" class="mw-redirect" title="Nature Research">Nature Research</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200-Mathglot-20240217020700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200-Mathglot-20240217020700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200-Mathglot-20240217020700"></span> <dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mathglot-20240218011600-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200"></span>Agreed, as I mentioned above in the Time, Inc. example. <a href="/wiki/User:Mathglot" title="User:Mathglot">Mathglot</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mathglot" title="User talk:Mathglot">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Mathglot-20240218011600-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:16, 18 February 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mathglot-20240218011600-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mathglot-20240218011600-Kaltenmeyer-20240218011200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page" data-mw-thread-id="h-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page-20240310034500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page-20240310034500"></span>Suggestion for Archiving Your Talk Page<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page-20240310034500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaltenmeyer&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Suggestion for Archiving Your Talk Page"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Skarz-20240310034500-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page"></span>Hello Kaltenmeyer, </p><p>I hope this message finds you well. I've noticed that your Talk page has grown quite extensive, which is a testament to your active engagement on Wikipedia. However, I'd like to suggest considering archiving some of the older discussions. </p><p>Archiving can lead to several benefits, including: </p> <ul><li>Better Organization: It makes it easier for you and others to navigate through current discussions without scrolling through a long history of past conversations.</li> <li>More Conducive Conversations: With a cleaner Talk page, it becomes simpler for other editors to engage in ongoing discussions and for you to manage responses.</li> <li>Improved User Experience: For users on older computers or slower networks, a shorter page can significantly enhance loading times and overall accessibility.</li></ul> <p>If you're unsure about how to archive your Talk page, you can find detailed instructions <a href="/wiki/Help:Archiving_a_talk_page" title="Help:Archiving a talk page">here</a>. I'm also happy to assist if you need any help. </p><p>Thank you for considering this suggestion. Your contributions to Wikipedia are greatly valued, and I believe that archiving could make your Talk page even more effective as a tool for collaboration. </p><p>Best regards. <a href="/wiki/User:Skarz" title="User:Skarz">skarz</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Skarz" title="User talk:Skarz">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Skarz-20240310034500-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">03:45, 10 March 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Skarz-20240310034500-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Skarz-20240310034500-Suggestion_for_Archiving_Your_Talk_Page"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Turkish_Roma" data-mw-thread-id="h-Turkish_Roma-20240702150500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Turkish_Roma-20240702150500"></span>Turkish Roma<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Turkish_Roma-20240702150500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaltenmeyer&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Turkish Roma"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Esperantizia-20240702150500-Turkish_Roma"></span>Hello The name of the page should be rewritten as Turko-Romani people, it is more understandable in English. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Esperantizia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Esperantizia (page does not exist)">Esperantizia</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Esperantizia&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Esperantizia (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Esperantizia-20240702150500-Turkish_Roma" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Esperantizia-20240702150500-Turkish_Roma"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Esperantizia-20240702150500-Turkish_Roma"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240702153900-Esperantizia-20240702150500"></span>Hi, I did not create the page or name it. If you want to rename the article, the instructions are here: <a class="external free" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page</a> <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Kaltenmeyer-20240702153900-Esperantizia-20240702150500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240702153900-Esperantizia-20240702150500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240702153900-Esperantizia-20240702150500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Haberman_station" data-mw-thread-id="h-Haberman_station-20240906203600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Haberman_station-20240906203600"></span><a href="/wiki/Haberman_station" title="Haberman station">Haberman station</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Haberman_station-20240906203600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaltenmeyer&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Haberman station"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tduk-20240906203600-Haberman_station"></span>Hey, wanted to let you know I also noticed the picture on this article was at the wrong location (as you posted on the Talk page a few YEARS ago) and I actually had an accurate picture to replace it. Unfortunate that it took so long! <a href="/wiki/User:Tduk" title="User:Tduk">Tduk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tduk" title="User talk:Tduk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Tduk-20240906203600-Haberman_station" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tduk-20240906203600-Haberman_station"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tduk-20240906203600-Haberman_station"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900-Tduk-20240906203600"></span>Wow! I had completely forgotten about that. Thanks!!! <a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer">Kaltenmeyer</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900-Tduk-20240906203600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900-Tduk-20240906203600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900-Tduk-20240906203600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Tduk-20240907025600-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900"></span>It was a rare time when I went to say something on a talk page and someone had beat me to it - and no one else cared!</dd> <dd>Incidentally I'm wondering if the old picture in question might actually be the <a href="/wiki/Maspeth_station_(LIRR)" title="Maspeth station (LIRR)">Maspeth station (LIRR)</a>; it's close to the listed location, and the location listed doesn't look like somewhere a station could easily be. Still looking into that though..! <a href="/wiki/User:Tduk" title="User:Tduk">Tduk</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Tduk" title="User talk:Tduk">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kaltenmeyer#c-Tduk-20240907025600-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Tduk-20240907025600-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Tduk-20240907025600-Kaltenmeyer-20240906211900"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Jay_Clayton_(attorney)" data-mw-thread-id="h-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)-20241015002200"><span id="Jay_Clayton_.28attorney.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)-20241015002200"></span>Jay Clayton (attorney)<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)-20241015002200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaltenmeyer&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Jay Clayton (attorney)"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><a href="/wiki/User:Kaltenmeyer" title="User:Kaltenmeyer"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Blackseneca-20241015002200-Jay_Clayton_(attorney)"></span>Kaltenmeyer</a>, nice to meet you. I am the <a href="/wiki/User:Blackseneca" title="User:Blackseneca"> COI editor</a> for <a href="/wiki/Jay_Clayton_(attorney)" title="Jay Clayton (attorney)">Jay Clayton (attorney)</a>, an article you have edited in the past. I would appreciate your assistance with some additional biographical details I posted as <a href="/wiki/Talk:Jay_Clayton_(attorney)#New_content" title="Talk:Jay Clayton (attorney)"> a request on the Talk page</a>. A responding editor has provided some input about sourcing and taken issue with the exact wording of some of the content; I am open to revising based on community input and implementing directly if you approve. 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