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src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Dragon-149393.svg/27px-Dragon-149393.svg.png" decoding="async" width="27" height="28" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Dragon-149393.svg/41px-Dragon-149393.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Dragon-149393.svg/54px-Dragon-149393.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="529"/></a></span></span><span class="portalbox-link"><a href="/wiki/Portal:Speculative_fiction" title="Portal:Speculative fiction">Speculative fiction portal</a></span></li></ul>This template is within the scope of <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Science_Fiction" title="Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction">WikiProject Science Fiction</a></b>, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of <a href="/wiki/Science_fiction" title="Science fiction">science fiction</a> on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Science_Fiction" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction">the discussion</a> and see a list of open tasks.<span class="metadata wpb-metadata"><span class="wpb-project">Science Fiction</span><span class="wpb-project_link">Wikipedia:WikiProject Science Fiction</span><span class="wpb-banner_name">Template:WikiProject Science Fiction</span><span class="wpb-assessment_cat">science fiction articles</span></span></td><td class="mbox-empty-cell"></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"> <table id="archivebox" role="presentation" class="tmbox tmbox-notice mbox-small" style="text-align: center; padding: 1em;"> <tbody><tr> <td style="padding:0.6em 0 0.25em;"> <div style="width:100%; overflow:hidden;"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/40px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/60px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg/80px-Replacement_filing_cabinet.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="200" data-file-height="200"/></a></span><br/><b>Archives</b></div> </td></tr><tr> <td class="plainlinks"> <p><a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction/Archive_1" title="Template talk:Science fiction/Archive 1">1</a> </p> </td> </tr><tr><td style="padding-bottom:11px"><div class="mw-inputbox-centered" style=""><form name="searchbox" class="searchbox mw-inputbox-form" action="/wiki/Special:Search"><div class="cdx-text-input"><input class="mw-inputbox-input mw-searchInput searchboxInput cdx-text-input__input" name="search" placeholder="" size="22" dir="ltr"/></div><input type="hidden" value="Template talk:Science fiction/" name="prefix"/><br/><input type="submit" name="fulltext" value="Search archives" class="cdx-button"/><input type="hidden" value="Search" name="fulltext"/></form></div> </td></tr> </tbody></table> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Discussion_of_people_in_the_template" data-mw-thread-id="h-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Discussion of people in the template<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Discussion of people in the template"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template"></span>Please join the discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Science_Fiction#Influential_pioneers_in_SF" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction">Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction#Influential pioneers in SF</a>. ···<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe"><span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span></a> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe" title="Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe"><span style="color:blue;">投稿</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe" title="User talk:Nihonjoe">Talk to Nihonjoe</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JA"><span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span></a>!</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:14, 26 July 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-08-01T15:44:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"></span>Please do not add more people to the influential section until we come to a consensus at the above discussion. We don't want it to become bloated with links to people who are not accepted as influential via broad consensus. ···<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe"><span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span></a> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe" title="Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe"><span style="color:blue;">投稿</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe" title="User talk:Nihonjoe">Talk to Nihonjoe</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JA"><span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span></a>!</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Nihonjoe-2016-08-01T15:44:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:44, 1 August 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-08-01T15:44:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2016-08-01T15:44:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-07-26T18:14:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading3"><h3 id="RfC" data-mw-thread-id="h-RfC-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-RfC-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z"></span>RfC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-RfC-Discussion_of_people_in_the_template-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z"></span></h3><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: RfC"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z-RfC"></span>Please come participate in the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Science_Fiction#RfC_to_decide_things" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science Fiction">RfC</a> regarding the influential people section. ···<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe"><span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span></a> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe" title="Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe"><span style="color:blue;">投稿</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe" title="User talk:Nihonjoe">Talk to Nihonjoe</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JA"><span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span></a>!</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Nihonjoe-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z-RfC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:27, 12 September 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z-RfC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2016-09-12T21:27:00.000Z-RfC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Duplicate_links" data-mw-thread-id="h-Duplicate_links-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Duplicate_links-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span>Duplicate links<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Duplicate_links-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Duplicate links"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Duplicate_links"></span>The following have been removed due to them redirecting to articles already included in the template. We should only be linking once per navbox: </p> <ul><li><a href="/wiki/List_of_science_fiction_genres" class="mw-redirect" title="List of science fiction genres">List of science fiction genres</a> - redirects to <a href="/wiki/Outline_of_science_fiction" title="Outline of science fiction">Outline of science fiction</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Science_fiction_awards" class="mw-redirect" title="Science fiction awards">Science fiction awards</a> - redirects to <a href="/wiki/Outline_of_science_fiction" title="Outline of science fiction">Outline of science fiction</a></li> <li><a href="/wiki/Science_fiction_literature" class="mw-redirect" title="Science fiction literature">Science fiction literature</a> - redirects to the main <a href="/wiki/Science_fiction" title="Science fiction">Science fiction</a> article</li></ul> <p>--<a href="/wiki/User:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Robsinden">Rob Sinden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robsinden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Duplicate_links" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Duplicate_links"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Duplicate_links"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category_egg" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category_egg-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category_egg-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span>Category egg<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category_egg-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: Category egg"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Category_egg"></span>We should not be linking to the category <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EGG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EGG">WP:EGG</a> <a href="/wiki/Category:Science_fiction_by_nationality" title="Category:Science fiction by nationality">Category:Science fiction by nationality</a> (hidden as <a href="/wiki/Category:Science_fiction_by_nationality" title="Category:Science fiction by nationality">By region</a>) from this navbox, as reader will not be expecting to end up in Category namespace from the navbox. In any case all of the articles in the category are in the navbox, so it is redundant. --<a href="/wiki/User:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Robsinden">Rob Sinden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robsinden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Category_egg" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Category_egg"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z-Category_egg"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span>We've previously had a discussion on this at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Categories,_lists,_and_navigation_templates/Archive_9#Category_"easter_eggs"_in_navboxes" title="Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates/Archive 9">Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates/Archive 9#Category "easter eggs" in navboxes</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Robsinden">Rob Sinden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robsinden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:18, 8 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:02:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z"></span>That wasn't so much a discussion as a four or five people talking in an echo chamber. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SURPRISE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SURPRISE">WP:SURPRISE</a> isn't even a guideline, either. And I think you are applying <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:EGG" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:EGG">WP:EGG</a> too strictly. I don't think anyone will be made uncomfortable by finding themselves in a category. I find that totally absurd. What I do find obnoxious is your <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">ownership tendencies</a> on this template. You blast in here and refuse to engage in any discussion, instead making changes and refusing to allow anyone to dispute them or revert them. ···<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe"><span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span></a> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe" title="Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe"><span style="color:blue;">投稿</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe" title="User talk:Nihonjoe">Talk to Nihonjoe</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JA"><span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span></a>!</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 8 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-08T09:18:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z"></span>Hmm, you shouldn't throw <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">WP:OWN</a> around like that, when I could easily accuse you of the same thing. Category eggs have been discussed by experienced editors at the talk page of the guideline as demonstrated above. No better forum for the discussion than that. Also note, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:NAVBOX" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:NAVBOX">WP:NAVBOX</a>, <style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">Navigation templates are a grouping of links used in multiple related <b>articles</b> to facilitate navigation between those <b>articles</b> within English Wikipedia.</q> Category pages are not articles, and we shouldn't be directing readers out of mainspace. Exceptions could be made if the links are explicit, although personally, I am against this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Robsinden">Rob Sinden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robsinden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:04, 9 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-08T18:24:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z"></span>I'm perfectly willing to accept changes if there's a valid reason for it. So far, I'm not seeing one. ···<a href="/wiki/User:Nihonjoe" title="User:Nihonjoe"><span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span></a> · <small><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe" title="Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe"><span style="color:blue;">投稿</span></a> · <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nihonjoe" title="User talk:Nihonjoe">Talk to Nihonjoe</a> · <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:JA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:JA"><span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span></a>!</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z-Robsinden-2016-12-09T09:04:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-12T10:21:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z"></span>As demonstrated there has been consensus not to include hidden links to categories in navboxes for some time. --<a href="/wiki/User:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Robsinden">Rob Sinden</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Robsinden" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Robsinden">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Robsinden-2016-12-12T10:21:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Robsinden-2016-12-12T10:21:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Robsinden-2016-12-12T10:21:00.000Z-Nihonjoe-2016-12-09T21:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2020<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2020"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>I've noticed the link to "jump drive" is currently a usb flash drive, with other redirects for jump drive otherwise linking to the page hyperspace anyway. I suggest removing the link for jump drive, as making it a redirect would only link to the page immediately next to it. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Erfly&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Erfly (page does not exist)">Erfly</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Erfly" title="User talk:Erfly">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:11, 19 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_19_February_2020"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-02-19T07:41:00.000Z-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"></span>Done . <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-02-19T07:41:00.000Z-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:41, 19 February 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-02-19T07:41:00.000Z-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-02-19T07:41:00.000Z-Erfly-2020-02-19T00:11:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020" data-mw-thread-id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"></span>Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2020<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2020"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox mbox-small tmbox-notice editrequest" role="presentation" data-origlevel="semi"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/30px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="30" height="30" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/45px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text">This <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Edit_requests" title="Wikipedia:Edit requests">edit request</a> has been answered. Set the <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|answered=</code> or <code style="white-space: nowrap;">|ans=</code> parameter to <b>no</b> to reactivate your request.</td></tr></tbody></table> <p>The embedded template added in <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AScience_fiction&type=revision&diff=943072531&oldid=942991417">this edit</a> should be reverted, as this is not the correct way to use navboxes. If this really needs to be done, then a simple merge would have been the correct procedure. It seems <a href="/wiki/User:Jonesey95" title="User:Jonesey95">Jonesey95</a> already has expressed issues with this edit. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247" title="Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247">212.135.65.247</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:212.135.65.247" title="User talk:212.135.65.247">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_4_March_2020"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"></span>Please explain why it is not a correct way. Many templates are transcluded into each other. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-1"></span>A simple merge will not do, because the embedded template may be used independently, and merging will create maintenance problems commonly associated with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORK">WP:FORK</a>. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-04T10:30:00.000Z-1"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span>A navbox should be transcluded on all included articles. If it is worthy for inclusion here, then this navbox belongs on that page, not a subset of those articles. i.e. it <i>shouldn't</i> be used independently. Therefore a merge would facilitate that. In any case <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BRD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BRD">WP:BRD</a> needs this to be reversed. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247" title="Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247">212.135.65.247</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:212.135.65.247" title="User talk:212.135.65.247">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-04T21:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:00:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"></span>Why shouldn't? There is no reason to drag a huge scifi navbox into all scifi articles. Some of them have a limited sub-scope., with narrower navigation range. And nothing should be reversed without the conclusion of the discussion. My transclusion added missing items into the template. If one reverts, they must re-add information. Otherwise the act will be non-constructive. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:00:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:00:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:00:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Can_I_Log_In-2020-03-13T20:39:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"></span>This SPER has not been discussed in over a week, so I'll close. <small><small><small>To reply, copy and paste this: <code>{{replyto|<a href="/wiki/User:Can_I_Log_In" title="User:Can I Log In"><big><big><big><big>Can I Log In</big></big></big></big></a>}}</code><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Can_I_Log_In" title="User talk:Can I Log In"><big><big><big><big>(Talk)</big></big></big></big></a></small></small></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Can_I_Log_In-2020-03-13T20:39:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:39, 13 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Can_I_Log_In-2020-03-13T20:39:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Can_I_Log_In-2020-03-13T20:39:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-05T08:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Several_sci-fi_templates" data-mw-thread-id="h-Several_sci-fi_templates-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Several_sci-fi_templates-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span>Several sci-fi templates<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Several_sci-fi_templates-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Several sci-fi templates"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z-Several_sci-fi_templates"></span>I've just merged/"folded" <b><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Spacetime_in_fiction" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Spacetime in fiction">Spacetime in fiction</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></b> into <b><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Science_fiction" title="Template:Science fiction">Science fiction</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></b> because of overlapping content. Later I noticed another overlap, <b><span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Spatial_anomalies_in_fiction" title="Template:Spatial anomalies in fiction">Spatial anomalies in fiction</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span></b>, the latter being a top navbox. Keeping these separate templates presents maintenance troubles, commonly associated with <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:FORK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:FORK">forking/duplication</a>. However someone disliked inclusion template into template Any ideas how to handle the issue in a better way? <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z-Several_sci-fi_templates" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z-Several_sci-fi_templates"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z-Several_sci-fi_templates"></span> </p> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span>The correct way to handle this is either a full merge or distinct templates. We shouldn't be embedding navboxes into navboxes in this manner. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247" title="Special:Contributions/212.135.65.247">212.135.65.247</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:212.135.65.247" title="User talk:212.135.65.247">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:10, 6 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-05T17:06:00.000Z"></span> <ul><li><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-06T17:42:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z"></span>Again, you neither provided any arguments in support of your opinion, nor you commented on my arguments. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Staszek_Lem&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Staszek Lem (page does not exist)">Staszek Lem</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Staszek_Lem" class="mw-redirect" title="User talk:Staszek Lem">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Science_fiction#c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-06T17:42:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:42, 6 March 2020 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-06T17:42:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Staszek_Lem-2020-03-06T17:42:00.000Z-212.135.65.247-2020-03-06T12:10:00.000Z"></span></li></ul></li></ul> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Under_discussion" data-mw-thread-id="h-Under_discussion-2020-08-24T17:09:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Under_discussion-2020-08-24T17:09:00.000Z"></span>Under discussion<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Under_discussion-2020-08-24T17:09:00.000Z"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Science_fiction&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: Under discussion"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-CapnZapp-2020-08-24T17:09:00.000Z-Under_discussion"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1237879475"><table class="plainlinks tmbox tmbox-notice" role="presentation"><tbody><tr><td class="mbox-image"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/40px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="40" height="40" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/60px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/80px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span></td><td class="mbox-text"><div style="padding-top: 6px; padding-bottom: 5px;"><b>This page is the subject of <a href="/wiki/Talk:Mundane_science_fiction#Unbalanced" title="Talk:Mundane science fiction">a current discussion</a>.</b> Please feel free to join in. 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