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It allows adding a reason in the summary.">undo</a></span></strong></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle2"><a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" class="mw-userlink" title="User:The Rambling Man" data-mw-revid="752562331"><bdi>The Rambling Man</bdi></a> <span class="mw-usertoollinks">(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man" class="mw-usertoollinks-talk" title="User talk:The Rambling Man">talk</a> | <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Rambling_Man" class="mw-usertoollinks-contribs" title="Special:Contributions/The Rambling Man">contribs</a>)</span><div class="mw-diff-usermetadata"><div class="mw-diff-userroles"><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Autopatrolled" title="Wikipedia:Autopatrolled">Autopatrolled</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Extended_confirmed_editors" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Extended confirmed editors">Extended confirmed users</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_mover" title="Wikipedia:Page mover">Page movers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:IP_block_exemption" title="Wikipedia:IP block exemption">IP block exemptions</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers" title="Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers">New page reviewers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Reviewing_pending_changes" title="Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes">Pending changes reviewers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Rollback" title="Wikipedia:Rollback">Rollbackers</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_editor" title="Wikipedia:Template editor">Template editors</a></div><div class="mw-diff-usereditcount"><span>286,427</span> edits</div></div></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle3"> <span class="comment comment--without-parentheses"><span class="autocomment"><a href="#Interaction_Ban_Reminder">→<bdi dir="ltr">Interaction Ban Reminder</bdi></a>: </span> bra</span></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle5"></div><div id="mw-diff-ntitle4"><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Rambling_Man&diff=next&oldid=752562331" title="User talk:The Rambling Man" id="differences-nextlink">Next edit →</a></div></td> </tr><tr><td colspan="4" class="diff-multi" lang="en">(4 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 200:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 200:</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>:{{U|Mike V}} No, you're completely incorrect. I made an indirect reference to Banedon. Please check his contributions prior to the Arbcom case. I refuse to accept this warning. On the flipside, the other individual you have named has made overt references to specifically me. That's a direct breach of the IBAN. Please either do your job correctly or don't do it at all. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 23:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>:{{U|Mike V}} No, you're completely incorrect. I made an indirect reference to Banedon. Please check his contributions prior to the Arbcom case. I refuse to accept this warning. On the flipside, the other individual you have named has made overt references to specifically me. That's a direct breach of the IBAN. Please either do your job correctly or don't do it at all. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 23:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-deleted"><div>::I believe it is quite clear that you were referring to George Ho in regards to canvassing, especially considering that there was a [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man/Proposed_decision#George_Ho_canvassed_users_to_this_case|finding of fact]] in that matter. Your comment is on par with George's and you both have been warned in a similar fashion. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> [[User:Mike V|<b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b>]] • [[User_talk:Mike V|<b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b>]]</span> 23:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> <td class="diff-marker"></td> <td class="diff-context diff-side-added"><div>::I believe it is quite clear that you were referring to George Ho in regards to canvassing, especially considering that there was a [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man/Proposed_decision#George_Ho_canvassed_users_to_this_case|finding of fact]] in that matter. Your comment is on par with George's and you both have been warned in a similar fashion. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> [[User:Mike V|<b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b>]] • [[User_talk:Mike V|<b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b>]]</span> 23:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:::{{U|Mike V}} then you are sadly, sadly mistaken and are using a bad faith argument to violate my rights. Please redact this "enforcement" immediately. I have referred to no-one specifically, unlike the other user named in your post. You are simply wrong. If you take the time to see how many individuals Banedon canvassed, you'd actually get the point and you may get your job right here. In the meantime I suggest you leave me alone until someone else competent can assess this issue. I have no interest in any "finding of fact" that Arbcom may have "found", I absolutely saw the dozens of posts made by Banedon in the Arbcom case. It was a disgusting and one-sided violation of policy which went '''entirely unaddressed'''. You clearly have an issue assuming good faith here and I find it frankly disgusting that you will allow a direct and overt and ongoing discussion of me by the other IBAN user while you concoct some untruth about my editing. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 23:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:::{{U|Mike V}} do you want me to go back and dig out all the diffs that show Banedon's canvassing? Would that help you understand my point? [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 23:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</div></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty diff-side-deleted"></td> <td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td> <td class="diff-addedline diff-side-added"><div>:::{{U|Mike V}} Here you go [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sca&diff=prev&oldid=735022270 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:George_Ho&diff=prev&oldid=735022332 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AlexTiefling&diff=prev&oldid=735022367 3], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sunshineisles2&diff=prev&oldid=735022514 4], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Casliber&diff=prev&oldid=735022875 5], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nergaal&diff=prev&oldid=735022958 6], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jusdafax&diff=prev&oldid=735023013 7], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevin_McE&diff=prev&oldid=735023035 8], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Medeis&diff=prev&oldid=735023107 9], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AHeneen&diff=prev&oldid=735023148 10], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Baseball_Bugs&diff=prev&oldid=735023215 11], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ad_Orientem&diff=prev&oldid=735023266 12], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Iridescent&diff=prev&oldid=735023375 13], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hzh&diff=prev&oldid=735024437 14], and they're the ones I found quickly. On the other hand it seems like Arbcom are happy to allow this kind of canvassing to go '''completely unaddressed''' and the overt discussions of my actions during that case by a user who is IBANed with me go with a simple warning. 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border: 1px solid #fceb92;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/100px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif" decoding="async" width="100" height="100" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/150px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif/200px-Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar_Hires.gif 2x" data-file-width="240" data-file-height="240"/></a></span> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;"><b>The Tireless Contributor Barnstar</b> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;">Says it all, really. <a href="/wiki/User:Bencherlite" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Bencherlite">Bencherlite</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Bencherlite" title="User talk:Bencherlite"><i><sup>Talk</sup></i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:41, 8 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z","author":"Bencherlite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z"></span>Cheers B'lite. I'll be calling when I need someone to do the hard work... <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-08T20:22:00.000Z-Bencherlite-2016-10-08T14:41:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda","c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1"],"text":"ITN recognition for Andrzej Wajda","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Andrzej Wajda"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Andrzej_Wajda" title="Andrzej Wajda">Andrzej Wajda</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda","c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Lugnuts-2016-10-11T08:31:00.000Z-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-10-11T08:31:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda","c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1"],"text":"ITN recognition for Andrzej Wajda","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Andrzej Wajda"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 10 October 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Andrzej_Wajda" title="Andrzej Wajda">Andrzej Wajda</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Dragons_flight" title="User:Dragons flight">Dragons flight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragons_flight" title="User talk:Dragons flight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","author":"Dragons flight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda"></span> </p> </div> </div><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1"></span> P.S. Thanks for not giving up on Wikipedia. <a href="/wiki/User:Dragons_flight" title="User:Dragons flight">Dragons flight</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dragons_flight" title="User talk:Dragons flight">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:16, 10 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dragons_flight-2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Andrzej_Wajda-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-10T10:16:00.000Z","author":"Dragons 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decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 11 October 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Alistair_Urquhart" title="Alistair Urquhart">Alistair Urquhart</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-11T06:55:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Alistair_Urquhart" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">06:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-11T06:55:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Alistair_Urquhart"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-11T06:55:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-11T06:55:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Alistair_Urquhart","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-11T06:55:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Alistair_Urquhart"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"],"text":"ITN recognition for Dario Fo","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Dario Fo"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Dario_Fo" title="Dario Fo">Dario Fo</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo","timestamp":"2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"],"text":"ITN recognition for Dario Fo","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Dario Fo"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 16 October 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Dario_Fo" title="Dario Fo">Dario Fo</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-2016-10-16T05:11:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Dario_Fo"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"],"text":"TFA","linkableTitle":"TFA"}--><h2 id="TFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"></span>TFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__3__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-TFA-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"],"text":"TFA","linkableTitle":"TFA"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"></span>Thank you for <a href="/wiki/History_of_Ipswich_Town_F.C." title="History of Ipswich Town F.C.">History of Ipswich Town F.C.</a> or "This shall be the last time I burden your doorsteps with my pleas of your time and energy!" --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:22, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z-TFA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"></span>Thank you. It's nice to know that despite the general distaste for my presence, that my positive work is still appreciated. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T18:22:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z"></span>Can't imagine the Main page without you! --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:01, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T20:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z"></span>Again, very kind. You are in the minority, but I'll continue to defend Wikipedia from the mediocre and inadequate. But I'll try to do it <b>really kindly</b>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:06, 16 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-16T21:01:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span>You and I are in the same boat, I guess, - the cabal of the outcasts. We even have it <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:QAI" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:QAI">organized</a> ;) --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-16T21:06:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z"></span>The Rambling Man, I must have been living under a rock for the last couple of months, because I was unaware of the whole kerfuffle. It is too late for me to give you my commiserations, but I doubt you need that anyway. So instead I'll give you my support at a future RFA, if and when that happens. <a href="/wiki/User:Athomeinkobe" title="User:Athomeinkobe">AtHomeIn神戸</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Athomeinkobe" title="User talk:Athomeinkobe">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:52, 21 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z","author":"Athomeinkobe","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"AtHomeIn\u795e\u6238"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Athomeinkobe-2016-10-21T01:52:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2016-10-17T15:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"],"text":"ITN recognition for Pete Burns","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Pete Burns"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Pete_Burns" title="Pete Burns">Pete Burns</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns","timestamp":"2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"],"text":"ITN recognition for Pete Burns","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Pete Burns"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 25 October 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Pete_Burns" title="Pete Burns">Pete Burns</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:Stephen" title="User:Stephen">Step</a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Stephen" title="User talk:Stephen">hen</a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:08, 25 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z","author":"Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns","replies":[],"displayName":"Step"}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Stephen-2016-10-25T10:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Pete_Burns"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations","c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"],"text":"Congratulations","linkableTitle":"Congratulations"}--><h2 id="Congratulations" data-mw-thread-id="h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z"></span>Congratulations<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations","c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations","timestamp":"2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Congratulations-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations","c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"],"text":"Congratulations","linkableTitle":"Congratulations"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations"></span>I admire your dedication, and your decision to stick around. Many would have retired under those circumstances. I am very happy that you chose not to do that. Continuity with one's past achievements is important, so that your role here over the years can be appreciated, and your experience drawn upon. You have a legacy you can be proud of: over 10 years of helping to educate the world. </p><p>Your respect for ArbCom's decisions sets a good example for others to follow, and strengthens the community and its culture. Thank you. </p><p>By the way, I noticed that your user page is missing, and was wondering when we will get to see the new you. ;) </p><p>Sincerely, <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Transhumanist" title="User talk:The Transhumanist"><i>The Transhumanist</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 27 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","author":"The Transhumanist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations"></span> </p> <center> <table style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:New_editor_delivery.png" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/New_editor_delivery.png/200px-New_editor_delivery.png" decoding="async" width="200" height="148" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/New_editor_delivery.png/300px-New_editor_delivery.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/New_editor_delivery.png/400px-New_editor_delivery.png 2x" data-file-width="579" data-file-height="429"/></a></span> </td> <td rowspan="2"> </td> <td style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;"><center><b>The Excellent New and Improved<br/> Editor's Barnstar</b></center><span style="font-family:Garamond;font-size:16pt;color:blue">A toast, to <i>TRM Redux</i>, and starting anew.</span> </td></tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;">Cheers! <a href="/wiki/User_talk:The_Transhumanist" title="User talk:The Transhumanist"><i>The Transhumanist</i></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:32, 27 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z","author":"The Transhumanist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Transhumanist-2016-10-27T23:32:00.000Z-Congratulations-1"></span> </td></tr></tbody></table></center> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"],"text":"ITN recognition for Sakharov Prize","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Sakharov Prize"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Sakharov_Prize" title="Sakharov Prize">Sakharov Prize</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize","timestamp":"2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"],"text":"ITN recognition for Sakharov Prize","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Sakharov Prize"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 28 October 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Sakharov_Prize" title="Sakharov Prize">Sakharov Prize</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-10-28T20:08:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Sakharov_Prize"></span> </p> </div> </div> <p><br/> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"],"text":"Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948","linkableTitle":"Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948"}--><h2 id="Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948" data-mw-thread-id="h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"></span><a href="/wiki/Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948" title="Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948">Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"],"text":"Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948","linkableTitle":"Keith Miller with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"></span>Hi, hope you are well! Miller in 1948 is TFA on 28 November. I'm not a huge fan of the 1948 series of articles that we have, but they are what they are. However, this one was a little padded and, to be brutal, rather dull. I've gone through and trimmed over 1,000 words from it and generally tidied it up a bit, but I'd like another pair of cricket eyes on it if possible. Dweller has had a quick look but I don't think he got past the lead. If your sanity can bear it, I'd appreciate if you could see how it holds up from a cricket and FA viewpoint. My view is that its OK; not great, but OK for TFA. Any thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User:Sarastro1" title="User:Sarastro1">Sarastro1</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarastro1" title="User talk:Sarastro1">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","author":"Sarastro1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z-Keith_Miller_with_the_Australian_cricket_team_in_England_in_1948"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"></span>Sorry I haven't got back to you on this. Will hopefully have some time in the next week to take a look at Miller. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:20, 12 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:20:00.000Z-Sarastro1-2016-11-08T23:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"],"text":"WikiProject Boxing","linkableTitle":"WikiProject Boxing"}--><h2 id="WikiProject_Boxing" data-mw-thread-id="h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span>WikiProject Boxing<span data-mw-comment-end="h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__3__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-WikiProject_Boxing-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"],"text":"WikiProject Boxing","linkableTitle":"WikiProject Boxing"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"></span>Much greetings and well-wishes! It's been a while since I got in touch. No, I'm not scampering here like a wronged kid in a schoolyard again (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Rambling_Man&oldid=665635969#Hyphens_in_boxing_weight_classes_.2F_non-communicative_IP">"Waaah, help me from this meanie IP with a bizarre agenda about hyphens!"</a>), but rather just asking for some advice, whilst taking into account your editing situation. </p><p>From November 2015 to February 2016, I pretty much single-handedly undertook the task of creating an MOS for <a href="/wiki/Boxing" title="Boxing">boxing</a> articles, with obvious feedback from fellow editors at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing">WikiProject Boxing</a>. To me it felt like a master stroke in getting rid of all the myriad inconsistencies that resulted in a lack of any sort of guideline. Thus, <a href="/wiki/MOS:BOXING" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:BOXING">MOS:BOXING</a> was born. Admittedly I look at it as my "baby" on here. I wouldn't say I view it as something that I <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">own</a>, but I am rather protective over it, and am certainly not willing to back down from the occasional edit-warring user who stumbles along out of nowhere, doesn't like <a href="/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.#Professional_boxing_record" title="Floyd Mayweather Jr.">the new and improved format</a> they now see across hundreds of boxing articles (mainly <a href="/wiki/MOS:BOXING/RECORD" class="mw-redirect" title="MOS:BOXING/RECORD">MOS:BOXING/RECORD</a>), and demands changes to it. </p><p>Now, I do love me some collaboration and discussion, but more often than not the requests/demands for change are unreasonable (mainly going against the basics like <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACCESS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACCESS">WP:ACCESS</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERLINK">WP:OVERLINK</a>, <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:BULLET" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:BULLET">WP:BULLET</a>, etc.) Thing is, the consensus that I got from announcing the finalisation of the MOS <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing/Archive_5#MOS_boxing:_final_FINAL_call" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing/Archive 5">in June</a> could perhaps be considered shaky, as it was pretty much of the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:SILENCE" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:SILENCE">silent kind</a>. Previous stages of consensus were achieved <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing/Archive_4#RfC:_format_of_boxing_weight_classes" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing/Archive 4">in December 2015</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing/Archive_5#MoS:Boxing_Final_call" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing/Archive 5">February 2016</a>. However, even though I once had encouragement from the users who supported my proposal at the time, I'm now starting to doubt myself as their voices are seldom heard when I need them, and newer editors who weren't around at the time of those discussions are appearing out of the woodwork and disputing various elements of the MOS (<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing#New_record_and_summery_template" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing">here</a> and <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Boxing#Boxing" title="Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing">here</a>). </p><p>So! What I'm rambling (heh) about here is whether you have any experience of consensus-building and MOS'es on WP, and if I have a leg to stand on this case. I know there's RfCs I could start up, but those were already done a year ago, and irritatingly WikiProject Boxing isn't the most active in terms of actual members participating in discussion (besides edit-warring). Right now I'm just thinking the whole MOS that I got going could be torn apart if one or more editors decide to complain, via WP:DRN or someplace, that previous consensus wasn't strong enough. It hasn't happened yet on a large scale, but I fear it could. Do you have any ideas on what I could do in order to give MOS:BOXING a more solid foundation—<a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:PROPOSAL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:PROPOSAL">WP:PROPOSAL</a>, maybe? <a href="/wiki/User:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User:Mac Dreamstate">Mac Dreamstate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User talk:Mac Dreamstate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 12 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","author":"Mac Dreamstate","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z-WikiProject_Boxing"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span>I'll need to re-read this tomorrow or Monday before giving a qualified response. Hope you don't mind! <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T15:21:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z"></span>Oh no worries. Take all the time you need, it's not urgent. <a href="/wiki/User:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User:Mac Dreamstate">Mac Dreamstate</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mac_Dreamstate" title="User talk:Mac Dreamstate">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z","author":"Mac Dreamstate","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mac_Dreamstate-2016-11-12T20:22:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-12T20:19:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"],"text":"Lede-too-short tagging","linkableTitle":"Lede-too-short tagging"}--><h2 id="Lede-too-short_tagging" data-mw-thread-id="h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"></span>Lede-too-short tagging<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__5__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__4__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Lede-too-short_tagging-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"],"text":"Lede-too-short tagging","linkableTitle":"Lede-too-short tagging"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"></span>I have noticed that you usually drop by articles, especially newly-written pages in DYK, and leave the lede-too-short tag, while performing a semi-automated tag. Why not challenge yourself to be bold and improve it yourself? Improvement tags are all too prolific on this site.– <a href="/wiki/User:Gilliam" title="User:Gilliam">Gilliam</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gilliam" title="User talk:Gilliam">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","author":"Gilliam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z-Lede-too-short_tagging"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"></span>I may engage more heavily with articles in which I have interest or knowledge. It's really more up for those who have specific interest in articles to improve them. In reality, if DYK articles have sub-standard leads per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LEAD" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LEAD">WP:LEAD</a>, this should be picked up by the reviewer or promoter of the hook to the prep/queue before it gets as far as the main page. Thanks for your interest in my ongoing quest to keep us from posting poor articles to the main page. I have plenty of challenges on Wikipedia, so I feel it unnecessary to add another one to the list! While we're on that topic, could you add references to the <a href="/wiki/Talsi" title="Talsi">Talsi</a> article regarding the twin towns please, otherwise that section is an <span class="nowrap">{{</span><a href="/wiki/Template:Unreferenced_section" title="Template:Unreferenced section">unreferenced section</a><span class="nowrap">}}</span>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:05, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z-Gilliam-2016-11-17T11:55:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z"></span>I am in agreement with Gilliam on this issue. There is nothing in either the DYK rules or the DYK supplementary rules that requires leads to conform to any MOS guidelines, and I do not think an article about to appear on the front page should have a tag of this sort added to it. <a href="/wiki/User:Cwmhiraeth" title="User:Cwmhiraeth">Cwmhiraeth</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Cwmhiraeth" title="User talk:Cwmhiraeth">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:30, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Cwmhiraeth","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:05:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z"></span>It matters not a jot about what DYK rules say. Every article on Wikipedia should <i>strive</i> to meet the requirements of <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:MOS" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:MOS">WP:MOS</a>. In fact, it's only DYK that actively <i>allows</i> that to be summarily ignored. Now then, both of you, please go back to improving Wikipedia, just as I do, hundreds of times a week. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z-Cwmhiraeth-2016-11-17T12:30:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z"></span>German articles usually come with only one line of a lead, but I like a bit more, and the tag is a reminder when I only translated and forgot. The tag can be removed with no problem, so where is a problem? --<a href="/wiki/User:Gerda_Arendt" title="User:Gerda Arendt">Gerda Arendt</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Gerda_Arendt" title="User talk:Gerda Arendt">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Gerda_Arendt-2016-11-17T13:39:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T12:32:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"],"text":"The mop","linkableTitle":"The mop"}--><h2 id="The_mop" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"></span>The mop<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__4__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_mop-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"],"text":"The mop","linkableTitle":"The mop"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"></span>If nominated again, would you accept an RFA nomination?--<a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">WaltCip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:14, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","author":"WaltCip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z-The_mop"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"></span>It would certainly be hilarious to see the wrath of many editors levelled at me again. It'd sink like a stone I suspect... Given the current 75%+ threshold, I'd need something like 250 supporters to cover those who came large at me during the Arbcom case. Not sure the last time any RFA had that many participants... <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:45, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:14:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z"></span>I think in Wikipedia's heyday you could have garnered 250 supporters, but many of the high-level contributors of that era have probably been driven off the project, so you may be right. Well, you have me, anyway. That leaves you with 249 more supporters to scrounge up. :-) --<a href="/wiki/User:WaltCip" title="User:WaltCip">WaltCip</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:WaltCip" title="User talk:WaltCip">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:55, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z","author":"WaltCip","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:45:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z"></span>That's very kind of you. I do find I'm spending a lot of time telling admins what needs to be done rather than just being able to do it myself, but I'll hold off for now to see if any other supporters make such overtures! Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:57, 17 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-17T14:57:00.000Z-WaltCip-2016-11-17T14:55:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z-The_Challenge_Series"],"text":"The Challenge Series","linkableTitle":"The Challenge Series"}--><h2 id="The_Challenge_Series" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z"></span>The Challenge Series<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z-The_Challenge_Series"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z-The_Challenge_Series","timestamp":"2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Challenge_Series-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z-The_Challenge_Series"],"text":"The Challenge Series","linkableTitle":"The Challenge Series"}--></div></div></div> <p><b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:The_100,000_Challenge" title="Wikipedia:The 100,000 Challenge"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-19T08:16:00.000Z-The_Challenge_Series"></span>The Challenge Series</a></b> is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. 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Voting in the <b><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ACE2016" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ACE2016">2016 Arbitration Committee elections</a></b> is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016. </p><p>The <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:ARBCOM" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:ARBCOM">Arbitration Committee</a> is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration">Wikipedia arbitration process</a>. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. 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I would prefer to categorize them immediately by position, yes - but I've considered it, and I see no way to comfortably do it with AWB that wouldn't risk making massive errors. This at least places them into a category where they can be identified as lacking and dealt with accordingly. </p><p>To your first point. To the second - thanks for the tip. I suspect I know where the issue lies, having examined the article in question, and will re-run the script accordingly to deal with it. --<font face="Old English Text MT"><a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</a></font><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-23T12:55:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:55, 23 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-23T12:55:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-23T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Ser Amantio di Nicolao","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-23T12:55:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-23T12:55:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position"></span> </p><p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position"></span>Blimey, you've gone Cat-astrophically mad. More power to your elbow, old boy. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="/wiki/User:Dweller/Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:40, 24 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z","author":"Dweller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z-Category:Association_footballers_not_categorized_by_position"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z"></span>Yeah, I'm a bit annoyed that the world's most prolific Wikipedian (<a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</a>) is creating all this work. He can <i>easily</i> modify the AWB script to take the position from the infobox and convert it into a category. Instead, he's making hundreds of edits per hour that someone then has to just go and fix. Grim. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z-Dweller-2016-11-24T16:40:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z"></span>Can I? I don't know how. If you would like to <i>show</i> me how, perhaps I can learn. But as it stands, I don't know how to do that at all. --<font face="Old English Text MT"><a href="/wiki/User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</a></font><sup><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><i>Che dicono a Signa?</i></a></sup><sub><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao" title="Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao"><b>Lo dicono a Signa.</b></a></sub> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Ser Amantio di Nicolao","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-24T20:12:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z"></span>Butting in, why not pause what you're doing and see if there's a way to get it done right, working collaboratively? For example, a bot could probably do this task. --<a href="/wiki/User:Dweller" title="User:Dweller">Dweller</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Dweller" title="User talk:Dweller">talk</a>) <small>Become <a href="/wiki/User:Dweller/Old_Fashioned_Wikipedian_Values" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values">old fashioned!</a></small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:55, 25 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z","author":"Dweller","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Dweller-2016-11-25T09:55:00.000Z-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2016-11-25T01:07:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016"],"text":"The Signpost: 4 November 2016","linkableTitle":"The Signpost: 4 November 2016"}--><h2 id="The_Signpost:_4_November_2016" data-mw-thread-id="h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z"></span><i>The Signpost</i>: 4 November 2016<span data-mw-comment-end="h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016","timestamp":"2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-2016-11-26T09:06:00.000Z-The_Signpost:_4_November_2016"],"text":"The Signpost: 4 November 2016","linkableTitle":"The Signpost: 4 November 2016"}--></div></div></div> <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="-moz-column-count:2; 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Could you please clarify what you're asking in your first question to me? Thanks, <a href="/wiki/User:Ks0stm" title="User:Ks0stm"><font color="009900"><b>Ks0stm</b></font></a> <sup>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Ks0stm" title="User talk:Ks0stm">T</a>•<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ks0stm" title="Special:Contributions/Ks0stm">C</a>•<a href="/wiki/User:Ks0stm/Guestbook" title="User:Ks0stm/Guestbook">G</a>•<a href="/wiki/User:Ks0stm/Email" title="User:Ks0stm/Email">E</a>)</sup> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z-Arb_questions" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:38, 26 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z-Arb_questions"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z","author":"Ks0stm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z-Arb_questions","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z-Arb_questions"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z"></span>Not really. It's clear to me and many of the other candidates. If you don't understand the question, I guess you're not really the candidate I'm looking for. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-27T22:48:00.000Z-Ks0stm-2016-11-26T19:38:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"],"text":"FLC","linkableTitle":"FLC"}--><h2 id="FLC" data-mw-thread-id="h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z"></span>FLC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC","timestamp":"2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-FLC-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"],"text":"FLC","linkableTitle":"FLC"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"></span>Since you reviewed <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates/Rajinikanth_filmography/archive2" title="Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Rajinikanth filmography/archive2">this</a> last time, I thought you might be interested. No issues otherwise. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">—<a href="/wiki/User:Vensatry" title="User:Vensatry"><font color="indigo"><b>Vensatry</b></font></a> <sub> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vensatry" title="User talk:Vensatry"><font color="Indigo"><b>(talk)</b></font></a> </sub></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:24, 28 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z","author":"Vensatry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vensatry-2016-11-28T07:24:00.000Z-FLC"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"],"text":"Asking for help at FLC","linkableTitle":"Asking for help at FLC"}--><h2 id="Asking_for_help_at_FLC" data-mw-thread-id="h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Asking for help at FLC<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__2__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Asking_for_help_at_FLC-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"],"text":"Asking for help at FLC","linkableTitle":"Asking for help at FLC"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"></span>Hi TRM. Here at FLC, activity is stalling out. Very few of the candidates have enough reviews where we could say there is consensus one way or the other, and we are in need of at least one set of extra eyes. If you ever get tired of all the work you do at ITN and DYK, please consider taking a short break from those tasks and reviewing a few lists at FLC. You could take your pick of just about everything on the page; they almost all need additional reviews at the moment. We would appreciate any help you could provide. While I'm here, congratulations on becoming a delegate once again. If you start closing FLCs again, please be aware that we now need specific source reviews before a list is promoted. Very few people seem to be interested in doing these reviews, which makes the whole process even slower than it was before. <a href="/wiki/User:Giants2008" title="User:Giants2008"><font color="blue">Giants2008</font></a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Giants2008" title="User talk:Giants2008"><font color="darkblue">Talk</font></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 28 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Giants2008","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z-Asking_for_help_at_FLC"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"></span>Hi Giants, long time no speak. Sure, I'll add a few reviews, I note that some of those at the bottom of the list have just one review, unbelievable. Let's see how much time I get (ITN and DYK are easy wins for me, a few minutes here, a few minutes there) while reviewing an FLC is a longer, more committed process. Once I get some time from the 3-year-old and 6-month-old ankle biters, I'll ensure I get cracking with it. Best wishes. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:26, 28 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-28T21:26:00.000Z-Giants2008-2016-11-28T21:22:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"],"text":"ITN recognition for LaMia Airlines Flight 2933","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for LaMia Airlines Flight 2933"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933" class="mw-redirect" title="LaMia Airlines Flight 2933">LaMia Airlines Flight 2933</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933","timestamp":"2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"],"text":"ITN recognition for LaMia Airlines Flight 2933","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for LaMia Airlines Flight 2933"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 29 November 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933" class="mw-redirect" title="LaMia Airlines Flight 2933">LaMia Airlines Flight 2933</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:39, 29 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T10:39:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_LaMia_Airlines_Flight_2933"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"],"text":"ITN recognition for Margaret Rhodes","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Margaret Rhodes"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/Margaret_Rhodes" title="Margaret Rhodes">Margaret Rhodes</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes","timestamp":"2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"],"text":"ITN recognition for Margaret Rhodes","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for Margaret Rhodes"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 29 November 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/Margaret_Rhodes" title="Margaret Rhodes">Margaret Rhodes</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:22, 29 November 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-11-29T21:22:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_Margaret_Rhodes"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"],"text":"ITN recognition for David Hamilton (photographer)","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for David Hamilton (photographer)"}--><h2 id="ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)" data-mw-thread-id="h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z"><span id="ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_.28photographer.29"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z"></span>ITN recognition for <a href="/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer)" title="David Hamilton (photographer)">David Hamilton (photographer)</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)","timestamp":"2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__1__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__1__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"],"text":"ITN recognition for David Hamilton (photographer)","linkableTitle":"ITN recognition for David Hamilton (photographer)"}--></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"></span><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1256334245"><div class="ivmbox" style=""> <div class="ivmbox-image" style="flex-basis: 50px"><span typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Gnome_globe_current_event.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/50px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/75px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Gnome_globe_current_event.svg/100px-Gnome_globe_current_event.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="600" data-file-height="600"/></a></span></div> <div class="ivmbox-text"> <p>On 1 December 2016, <i><b><a href="/wiki/Template:In_the_news" title="Template:In the news">In the news</a></b></i> was updated with an item that involved the article <i><b><a href="/wiki/David_Hamilton_(photographer)" title="David Hamilton (photographer)">David Hamilton (photographer)</a></b></i>, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates" title="Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates">candidates page</a>. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:50, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T11:50:00.000Z-ITN_recognition_for_David_Hamilton_(photographer)"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONDESKTOP__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"],"text":"Interaction Ban Reminder","linkableTitle":"Interaction Ban Reminder"}--><h2 id="Interaction_Ban_Reminder" data-mw-thread-id="h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"></span>Interaction Ban Reminder<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"></span></h2><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"]}}--><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"><!--__DTLATESTCOMMENTTHREAD__{"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z"}__--><!--__DTCOMMENTCOUNT__6__--><!--__DTAUTHORCOUNT__2__--></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"><!--__DTSUBSCRIBEBUTTONMOBILE__{"headingLevel":2,"name":"h-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","type":"heading","level":0,"id":"h-Interaction_Ban_Reminder-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"],"text":"Interaction Ban Reminder","linkableTitle":"Interaction Ban Reminder"}--></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"></span>Hello, </p><p>I’m writing to remind you that as a result of the arbitration case that both you and George Ho are <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man#The_Rambling_Man_and_George_Ho_interaction_banned" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man">prohibited from interacting</a> with each other, barring the usual exceptions. Recently, you posted questions to the election pages of multiple candidates where you indirectly made reference to George Ho. (<a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/DGG/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183284">1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Writ_Keeper/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183358">2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Ks0stm/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183385">3</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Salvidrim!/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183422">4</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Calidum/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183485">5</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Euryalus/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183522">6</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Newyorkbrad/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183554">7</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/DeltaQuad/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183647">8</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Doug_Weller/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183684">9</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/LFaraone/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183734">10</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2016/Candidates/Mkdw/Questions&diff=prev&oldid=751183193">11</a>) Please note that such comments are not permitted under the interaction ban and further instances will result in a block. Best regards, <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_V" title="User talk:Mike V"><b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:59, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Mike V","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z-Interaction_Ban_Reminder"></span> </p> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"></span>Mike V</a> No, you're completely incorrect. I made an indirect reference to Banedon. Please check his contributions prior to the Arbcom case. I refuse to accept this warning. On the flipside, the other individual you have named has made overt references to specifically me. That's a direct breach of the IBAN. Please either do your job correctly or don't do it at all. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T22:59:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z"></span>I believe it is quite clear that you were referring to George Ho in regards to canvassing, especially considering that there was a <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man/Proposed_decision#George_Ho_canvassed_users_to_this_case" title="Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man/Proposed decision">finding of fact</a> in that matter. Your comment is on par with George's and you both have been warned in a similar fashion. <span style="font-family: Palatino;"> <a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><b style="color:#151B54">Mike V</b></a> • <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Mike_V" title="User talk:Mike V"><b style="color:#C16C16">Talk</b></a></span> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","author":"Mike V","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:10:00.000Z"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Mike V</a> then you are sadly, sadly mistaken and are using a bad faith argument to violate my rights. Please redact this "enforcement" immediately. I have referred to no-one specifically, unlike the other user named in your post. You are simply wrong. If you take the time to see how many individuals Banedon canvassed, you'd actually get the point and you may get your job right here. In the meantime I suggest you leave me alone until someone else competent can assess this issue. I have no interest in any "finding of fact" that Arbcom may have "found", I absolutely saw the dozens of posts made by Banedon in the Arbcom case. It was a disgusting and one-sided violation of policy which went <b>entirely unaddressed</b>. You clearly have an issue assuming good faith here and I find it frankly disgusting that you will allow a direct and overt and ongoing discussion of me by the other IBAN user while you concoct some untruth about my editing. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:36:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Mike V</a> do you want me to go back and dig out all the diffs that show Banedon's canvassing? Would that help you understand my point? <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:39:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Mike_V" title="User:Mike V"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span>Mike V</a> Here you go <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sca&diff=prev&oldid=735022270">1</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:George_Ho&diff=prev&oldid=735022332">2</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AlexTiefling&diff=prev&oldid=735022367">3</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sunshineisles2&diff=prev&oldid=735022514">4</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Casliber&diff=prev&oldid=735022875">5</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nergaal&diff=prev&oldid=735022958">6</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jusdafax&diff=prev&oldid=735023013">7</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevin_McE&diff=prev&oldid=735023035">8</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Medeis&diff=prev&oldid=735023107">9</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AHeneen&diff=prev&oldid=735023148">10</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Baseball_Bugs&diff=prev&oldid=735023215">11</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ad_Orientem&diff=prev&oldid=735023266">12</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Iridescent&diff=prev&oldid=735023375">13</a>, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hzh&diff=prev&oldid=735024437">14</a>, and they're the ones I found quickly. On the other hand it seems like Arbcom are happy to allow this kind of canvassing to go <b>completely unaddressed</b> and the overt discussions of my actions during that case by a user who is IBANed with me go with a simple warning. <a href="/wiki/User:The_Rambling_Man" title="User:The Rambling Man">The Rambling Man</a> (<a class="mw-selflink-fragment" href="#top">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man#c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:43, 1 December 2016 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span><!--__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z","author":"The Rambling Man","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}--></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-The_Rambling_Man-2016-12-01T23:43:00.000Z-Mike_V-2016-12-01T23:33:00.000Z"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></div><!--esi <esi:include src="/esitest-fa8a495983347898/content" /> --><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Rambling_Man&oldid=752562331">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Rambling_Man&oldid=752562331</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 1 December 2016, at 23:44<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright"><span class="nowraplinks">This version of the page has been <a href="/wiki/Help:Page_history" title="Help:Page history">revised</a>. 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