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Sections older than <b>73 days</b> may be automatically archived by <span class="nowraplinks"><a href="/wiki/User:Lowercase_sigmabot_III" title="User:Lowercase sigmabot III">Lowercase sigmabot III</a></span>.</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p class="mw-empty-elt"> </p> <meta property="mw:PageProp/toc"/> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Good_Morning" data-mw-thread-id="h-Good_Morning-20240919101700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Good_Morning-20240919101700"></span>Good Morning<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Good_Morning-20240919101700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=1" title="Edit section: Good Morning"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Vmworld21-20240919101700-Good_Morning"></span>Waiting for sun rise <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Vmworld21&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Vmworld21 (page does not exist)">Vmworld21</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Vmworld21" title="User talk:Vmworld21">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Vmworld21-20240919101700-Good_Morning" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Vmworld21-20240919101700-Good_Morning"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Vmworld21-20240919101700-Good_Morning"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="hab/cot" data-mw-thread-id="h-hab/cot-20240919182400"><span id="hab.2Fcot"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-hab/cot-20240919182400"></span>hab/cot<span data-mw-comment-end="h-hab/cot-20240919182400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=2" title="Edit section: hab/cot"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400-hab/cot"></span>Thanks for <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1246527674" title="Special:Diff/1246527674">this</a>, Redrose64. I didn't realise it was actually "improper" :) but could you clarify the differences in the two templates for that kind of situation? I've never really considered it, but if asked, I would probably assume them to be interchangeable. Thoughts? <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b></a><i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400-hab/cot" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:24, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400-hab/cot"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400-hab/cot"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240919201400-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Serial_Number_54129" title="User:Serial Number 54129">Serial Number 54129</a>:</span> Apart from the colour, there's no difference until you go for the "show" link. At that point, <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Hat" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Hat">hat</a>}}</code> says "The following discussion has been closed", <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Cot" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Cot">cot</a>}}</code> doesn't. The red colour and the message suggest "nothing to see here, collapse it again and move on", but in the place you were using it, it's very much a relevant part of a keep vote. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20240919201400-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240919201400-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240919201400-Serial_Number_54129-20240919182400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919205600-Redrose64-20240919201400"></span>Right, I see. Never even realised that! Thanks for the info, I'll bear that in mind for the future. <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Serial_Number_54129" title="User talk:Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#7a0427;">SerialNumber</b></a><i><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Serial_Number_54129" title="Special:Contributions/Serial Number 54129"><b style="color:#17662c;">54129</b></a></i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919205600-Redrose64-20240919201400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919205600-Redrose64-20240919201400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Serial_Number_54129-20240919205600-Redrose64-20240919201400"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor" data-mw-thread-id="h-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor-20240926101200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor-20240926101200"></span>Apologies for reverting your edit to my RfC request on <a href="/wiki/Talk:Australian_Survivor" title="Talk:Australian Survivor">Talk:Australian Survivor</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor-20240926101200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=3" title="Edit section: Apologies for reverting your edit to my RfC request on Talk:Australian Survivor"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-MarkiPoli-20240926101200-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor"></span>I didn't realise you reverted it until just now, I thought I had signed twice by mistake, that's why I removed the inital signature, now I understand why you did it, because it needs to be brief and because the RfC page can't accept tables.</<a href="/wiki/User:MarkiPoli" title="User:MarkiPoli">MarkiPoli</a>> <<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MarkiPoli" title="User talk:MarkiPoli">talk</a> /><<a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/MarkiPoli" title="Special:Contributions/MarkiPoli">cont</a> /> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-MarkiPoli-20240926101200-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:12, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MarkiPoli-20240926101200-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MarkiPoli-20240926101200-Apologies_for_reverting_your_edit_to_my_RfC_request_on_Talk:Australian_Survivor"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="LB&SCR_E2_Class" data-mw-thread-id="h-LB&SCR_E2_Class-20240926154600"><span id="LB.26SCR_E2_Class"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-LB&SCR_E2_Class-20240926154600"></span><a href="/wiki/LB%26SCR_E2_Class" class="mw-redirect" title="LB&SCR E2 Class">LB&SCR E2 Class</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-LB&SCR_E2_Class-20240926154600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=4" title="Edit section: LB&SCR E2 Class"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20240926154600-LB&SCR_E2_Class"></span>The R and RP templates were already in use, as can be seen in the <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=1239399020">last version</a></span> prior to @<a href="/wiki/User:Trainsfan13" title="User:Trainsfan13">Trainsfan13</a>’s edits - how do their edits violate CITEVAR if they’re using templates that were already in use? <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Danners430-20240926154600-LB&SCR_E2_Class" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:46, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20240926154600-LB&SCR_E2_Class"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20240926154600-LB&SCR_E2_Class"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240926170900-Danners430-20240926154600"></span>Only since <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LB%26SCR_E2_class&diff=prev&oldid=1234052541">this edit</a></span>, which I would have partially-reverted if I had spotted it at the time that it happened. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20240926170900-Danners430-20240926154600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240926170900-Danners430-20240926154600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240926170900-Danners430-20240926154600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20240926171600-Redrose64-20240926170900"></span>An, that was a while ago so I forgot about it</dd> <dd>I have to ask though - since there appears to be no way whatsoever to alter the citation variation (and by the way it appears I followed the process discussed with that edit - make the edit, and since it didn’t get reverted there wasn’t a problem), what IS the process if someone feels a different variation of citations is better? At the moment it does almost feel like people <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OWN">gatekeeping</a> such changes and completely barring them… <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Danners430-20240926171600-Redrose64-20240926170900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20240926171600-Redrose64-20240926170900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20240926171600-Redrose64-20240926170900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240926211700-Danners430-20240926171600"></span>Start a discussion on the article's talk page. Demonstrate that the referencing method(s) used in the article as it currently stands are unsatisfactory. Present evidence that your preferred method is more suitable to the article than current methods. Be prepared to discuss with anybody else who comes in. You may attract the attention of others by leaving a note at e.g. <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:UKRAIL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:UKRAIL">WT:UKRAIL</a> (also the talk pages of other WikiProjects whose banners are at the top of the talk page) inviting people to comment - templates such as <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Fyi" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Fyi">fyi</a>}}</code> and <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Please_see" title="Template:Please see">subst:please see</a>}}</code> are available for this. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20240926211700-Danners430-20240926171600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240926211700-Danners430-20240926171600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240926211700-Danners430-20240926171600"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template:Ribble_Valley_Line" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line-20240930054700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line-20240930054700"></span>Template:Ribble Valley Line<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line-20240930054700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=5" title="Edit section: Template:Ribble Valley Line"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line"></span>Since your last amendment on this template, someone has deleted <a href="/w/index.php?title=Goosehouse&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Goosehouse (page does not exist)">Goosehouse</a> railway station that was stated to have been opened 1847-1849. </p><p>I am sure that you, with your deep knowledge of the area in question, would have made that change already if you had any reason to doubt its validity, so can you please reinstate it. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User:Xenophon Philosopher">Xenophon Philosopher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User talk:Xenophon Philosopher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700-Template:Ribble_Valley_Line"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240930204500-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User:Xenophon Philosopher">Xenophon Philosopher</a>:</span> <a href="/wiki/Template:Butt-Stations" title="Template:Butt-Stations">Butt (1995)</a> does list the station with those dates, on the <a href="/wiki/Bolton,_Blackburn,_Clitheroe_and_West_Yorkshire_Railway" class="mw-redirect" title="Bolton, Blackburn, Clitheroe and West Yorkshire Railway">Bolton, Blackburn, Clitheroe and West Yorkshire Railway</a>. But I can't find any mention of it in Marshall (1969), who doesn't describe any passenger stations between [Over] Darwen and Lower Darwen. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20240930204500-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">20:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240930204500-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240930204500-Xenophon_Philosopher-20240930054700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Merge_help" data-mw-thread-id="h-Merge_help-20240930184000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Merge_help-20240930184000"></span>Merge help<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Merge_help-20240930184000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=6" title="Edit section: Merge help"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Qalb_alasid-20240930184000-Merge_help"></span>Hello <a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> thank you for the tips on merging. I'm trying to help clear the backlog of requests. I'll keep your pointers in mind as I keep working on it. Thank you! <small class="autosigned">— Preceding <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Signatures" title="Wikipedia:Signatures">unsigned</a> comment added by <a href="/wiki/User:Qalb_alasid" title="User:Qalb alasid">Qalb alasid</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Qalb_alasid#top" title="User talk:Qalb alasid">talk</a> • <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Qalb_alasid" title="Special:Contributions/Qalb alasid">contribs</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Qalb_alasid-20240930184000-Merge_help" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Qalb_alasid-20240930184000-Merge_help"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Qalb_alasid-20240930184000-Merge_help"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico" data-mw-thread-id="h-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico-20240930213900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico-20240930213900"></span>Category:2024 crimes in Mexico‎<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico-20240930213900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=7" title="Edit section: Category:2024 crimes in Mexico‎"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nayyn-20240930213900-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico"></span>Thank you so much for fixing this double categorization. I had no idea how it happened nor any clue on how to fix it. Thanks for catching it! <a href="/wiki/User:Nayyn" title="User:Nayyn">Nayyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nayyn" title="User talk:Nayyn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Nayyn-20240930213900-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nayyn-20240930213900-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nayyn-20240930213900-Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20240930214800-Nayyn-20240930213900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Nayyn" title="User:Nayyn">Nayyn</a>:</span> Basically, I looked at other similar categories - such as <a href="/wiki/Category:2023_crimes_in_Mexico" title="Category:2023 crimes in Mexico">Category:2023 crimes in Mexico</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:2022_crimes_in_Mexico" title="Category:2022 crimes in Mexico">Category:2022 crimes in Mexico</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:2024_crimes_in_the_United_States" title="Category:2024 crimes in the United States">Category:2024 crimes in the United States</a>, <a href="/wiki/Category:2024_crimes_in_Ecuador" title="Category:2024 crimes in Ecuador">Category:2024 crimes in Ecuador</a> - to see what was in the page source, and found that all of them used exactly the same code, i.e. <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:YYYY_crimes_in_countryname_category_header" title="Template:YYYY crimes in countryname category header">YYYY crimes in countryname category header</a>}}</code>. Therefore, I edited <a href="/wiki/Category:2024_crimes_in_Mexico" title="Category:2024 crimes in Mexico">Category:2024 crimes in Mexico</a>, and replaced everything in there with <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:YYYY_crimes_in_countryname_category_header" title="Template:YYYY crimes in countryname category header">YYYY crimes in countryname category header</a>}}</code> and saved. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20240930214800-Nayyn-20240930213900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">21:48, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20240930214800-Nayyn-20240930213900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20240930214800-Nayyn-20240930213900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Nayyn-20240930225400-Redrose64-20240930214800"></span>many thanks again <a href="/wiki/User:Nayyn" title="User:Nayyn">Nayyn</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Nayyn" title="User talk:Nayyn">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Nayyn-20240930225400-Redrose64-20240930214800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Nayyn-20240930225400-Redrose64-20240930214800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Nayyn-20240930225400-Redrose64-20240930214800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius" data-mw-thread-id="h-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius-20241007101800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius-20241007101800"></span>External link on <a href="/wiki/The_Brain_of_Morbius" title="The Brain of Morbius">The Brain of Morbius</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius-20241007101800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=8" title="Edit section: External link on The Brain of Morbius"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spectritus-20241007101800-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius"></span>Hello. Could you explain why my use of this external link is improper and what you meant by "query string" please ? <a href="/wiki/User:Spectritus" title="User:Spectritus">Spectritus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spectritus" title="User talk:Spectritus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Spectritus-20241007101800-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:18, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spectritus-20241007101800-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spectritus-20241007101800-External_link_on_The_Brain_of_Morbius"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241007111300-Spectritus-20241007101800"></span>External links normally should not be placed in the body of an article, per <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links" title="Wikipedia:External links">Wikipedia:External links</a>. We also do not use external link format to link to Wikipedia in other languages, see <a href="/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links" title="Help:Interlanguage links">Help:Interlanguage links</a>.</dd> <dd>In a <a href="/wiki/URL" title="URL">URL</a> such as <a class="external free" href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Baker?wprov=sfla1">https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Baker?wprov=sfla1</a> the <a href="/wiki/Query_string" title="Query string">query string</a> is the part after the ? (query) character. In this case, it's documented at <a href="https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Provenance" class="extiw" title="wikitech:Provenance">wikitech:Provenance</a>, but I really don't think that it's being used properly. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241007111300-Spectritus-20241007101800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241007111300-Spectritus-20241007101800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241007111300-Spectritus-20241007101800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Spectritus-20241007112400-Redrose64-20241007111300"></span>Okay. Thanks. <a href="/wiki/User:Spectritus" title="User:Spectritus">Spectritus</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Spectritus" title="User talk:Spectritus">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Spectritus-20241007112400-Redrose64-20241007111300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:24, 7 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Spectritus-20241007112400-Redrose64-20241007111300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Spectritus-20241007112400-Redrose64-20241007111300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag" data-mw-thread-id="h-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag-20241008230800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag-20241008230800"></span>Colons in syntaxhighlight tag<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag-20241008230800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: Colons in syntaxhighlight tag"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241008230800-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag"></span><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1248585704">@media screen{html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{color:#00B785}}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk{font-family:Georgia,"DejaVu Serif",serif;color:#008560;quotes:none}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-italic{font-family:inherit;font-style:italic}.mw-parser-output .inline-quote-talk-marks{quotes:"\"""\""}</style><q class="inline-quote-talk">why do people keep using colons inside syntaxhighlight? They don't indent, but are displayed literally</q>. In case you're curious, it's a bug in Visual Editor. There's a phab ticket for it somewhere. –<a href="/wiki/User:Novem_Linguae" title="User:Novem Linguae"><span style="color:blue"><b>Novem Linguae</b></span></a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Novem_Linguae" title="User talk:Novem Linguae">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Novem_Linguae-20241008230800-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:08, 8 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Novem_Linguae-20241008230800-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Novem_Linguae-20241008230800-Colons_in_syntaxhighlight_tag"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" data-mw-thread-id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20241014001700"><span id="Happy_Adminship_Anniversary.21"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20241014001700"></span>Happy Adminship Anniversary!<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!-20241014001700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: Happy Adminship Anniversary!"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Icon_tools.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/50px-Icon_tools.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/75px-Icon_tools.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Icon_tools.svg/100px-Icon_tools.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="150" data-file-height="150"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:125%; padding-bottom: 1em;">Happy Adminship Anniversary!</span><figure class="mw-halign-right" typeof="mw:File"><a href="/wiki/File:Nuvola_apps_date.svg" class="mw-file-description"><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/50px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png" decoding="async" width="50" height="50" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/75px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Nuvola_apps_date.svg/100px-Nuvola_apps_date.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="128" data-file-height="128"/></a><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>Have a very <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=rights&page=User%3ARedrose64">happy adminship anniversary</a> on your special day! </p><p>Best wishes, <a href="/wiki/User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">DaniloDaysOfOurLives</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives" title="User talk:DaniloDaysOfOurLives">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!"></span> </p> </div> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241014085800-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241014085800-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:58, 14 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241014085800-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241014085800-DaniloDaysOfOurLives-20241014001700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America" data-mw-thread-id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America-20241015232400"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America-20241015232400"></span><a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" title="Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion">Speedy deletion</a> nomination of <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:2025 disestablishments in North America (page does not exist)">Category:2025 disestablishments in North America</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America-20241015232400"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=11" title="Edit section: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2025 disestablishments in North America"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Explicit-20241015232400-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America"></span><figure class="mw-halign-left" typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/48px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png" decoding="async" width="48" height="42" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/72px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ambox_warning_pn.svg/96px-Ambox_warning_pn.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="512" data-file-height="445"/></span><figcaption></figcaption></figure> <p>A tag has been placed on <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:2025 disestablishments in North America (page does not exist)">Category:2025 disestablishments in North America</a> indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a <a href="/wiki/Category:Disambiguation_categories" title="Category:Disambiguation categories">disambiguation category</a>, a <a href="/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_soft_redirected_categories" title="Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories">category redirect</a>, under discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion" title="Wikipedia:Categories for discussion">Categories for discussion</a>, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#C1" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CSD">section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion</a>. </p><p>If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may <b>contest the nomination</b> by <a href="/w/index.php?title=Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Category:2025 disestablishments in North America (page does not exist)">visiting the page</a> and removing the speedy deletion tag. <a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit"><span style="color:#000000">✗</span></a><a href="/wiki/User_talk:Explicit" title="User talk:Explicit"><span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Explicit-20241015232400-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:24, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Explicit-20241015232400-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Explicit-20241015232400-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:2025_disestablishments_in_North_America"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241016092200-Explicit-20241015232400"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Explicit" title="User:Explicit">Explicit</a>:</span> Although I created the original version of this page, the <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3A2025_disestablishments_in_North_America">page logs</a> show that the most recent two incarnations were created by <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Daniel_James_Mcmahon&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Daniel James Mcmahon (page does not exist)">Daniel James Mcmahon</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_James_Mcmahon" title="User talk:Daniel James Mcmahon">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Daniel_James_Mcmahon" title="Special:Contributions/Daniel James Mcmahon">contribs</a>). Judging by the other <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?user=User%3ADaniel_James_Mcmahon">categories that they have created</a> (several of which have been deleted again), this user seems intent on <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL">WP:CRYSTALBALLing</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241016092200-Explicit-20241015232400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241016092200-Explicit-20241015232400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241016092200-Explicit-20241015232400"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members" data-mw-thread-id="h-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members-20241019134700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members-20241019134700"></span>About members of one direction to be past members<span data-mw-comment-end="h-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members-20241019134700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=12" title="Edit section: About members of one direction to be past members"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kayanad-20241019134700-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members"></span>Hello, could u elaborate why you put all of them to past members? because there's no statement about the group status, thank you <a href="/wiki/User:Kayanad" title="User:Kayanad">Kayanad</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kayanad&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:Kayanad (page does not exist)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Kayanad-20241019134700-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kayanad-20241019134700-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kayanad-20241019134700-About_members_of_one_direction_to_be_past_members"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241019154000-Kayanad-20241019134700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Kayanad" title="User:Kayanad">Kayanad</a>:</span> There is an ongoing discussion on that exact matter at <a href="/wiki/Talk:One_Direction#RfC:_Band_status_and_members_in_the_infobox" title="Talk:One Direction">Talk:One Direction#RfC: Band status and members in the infobox</a>, so for the time being the article should not be changed until there is consensus in that discussion. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241019154000-Kayanad-20241019134700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241019154000-Kayanad-20241019134700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241019154000-Kayanad-20241019134700"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192300"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192300"></span>Invitation to participate in a research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research-20241023192300"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=13" title="Edit section: Invitation to participate in a research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192300-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this <b><a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/294789?lang=en">anonymous survey</a></b>. </p><p>You do not have to be an Administrator to participate. </p><p>The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia_Administrator_Recruitment,_Retention,_and_Attrition" class="extiw" title="m:Special:MyLanguage/Research:Wikipedia Administrator Recruitment, Retention, and Attrition">Meta page</a> and view its <a href="https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator_Experiences_2024_Survey_Privacy_Statement" class="extiw" title="wmf:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Administrator Experiences 2024 Survey Privacy Statement">privacy statement</a> . </p><p>Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns. </p><p>Kind Regards, </p><p><a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Research" class="extiw" title="mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Research">WMF Research Team</a> </p><p><bdi lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="/wiki/User:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User:BGerdemann (WMF)">BGerdemann (WMF)</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:BGerdemann_(WMF)" title="User talk:BGerdemann (WMF)">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192300-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)</a> </bdi><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192300-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241023192300-Invitation_to_participate_in_a_research"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line" data-mw-thread-id="h-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line-20241102181800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line-20241102181800"></span>MOS:NOBR - North Kent Line<span data-mw-comment-end="h-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line-20241102181800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=14" title="Edit section: MOS:NOBR - North Kent Line"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Jessicapierce-20241102181800-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line"></span>Hi there, thanks for your edit summary note on <a href="/wiki/North_Kent_Line" title="North Kent Line">North Kent Line</a>. I didn't change that formatting - the anonymous edit before mine did, and I was just patching up the broken part. However, I actually wasn't aware of the MOS:NOBR guideline, so thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Jessicapierce" title="User:Jessicapierce">Jessicapierce</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Jessicapierce" title="User talk:Jessicapierce">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Jessicapierce-20241102181800-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Jessicapierce-20241102181800-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Jessicapierce-20241102181800-MOS:NOBR_-_North_Kent_Line"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241102230700-Jessicapierce-20241102181800"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Jessicapierce" title="User:Jessicapierce">Jessicapierce</a>:</span> The <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Ubl" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Ubl">ubl</a>}}</code> template makes a list, the individual items of which are separated uning the <a href="/wiki/Pipe_character" class="mw-redirect" title="Pipe character">pipe character</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241102230700-Jessicapierce-20241102181800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241102230700-Jessicapierce-20241102181800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241102230700-Jessicapierce-20241102181800"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Admin_newsletter" data-mw-thread-id="h-Admin_newsletter-20241103120700"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Admin_newsletter-20241103120700"></span>Admin newsletter<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Admin_newsletter-20241103120700"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=15" title="Edit section: Admin newsletter"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700-Admin_newsletter"></span>Hi Redrose64 -- was there a reason you removed me from the admin newsletter subs? For the record, I'd prefer to receive it even if hibernating as I still intermittently check my talk page and on return it forms a convenient summary of issues of which I need to be aware. Regards, <a href="/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700-Admin_newsletter" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700-Admin_newsletter"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700-Admin_newsletter"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241103121800-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a>:</span> Delivery of the October message failed, <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=massmessage&offset=20241002160200&limit=7">the log shows that you opted-out of message delivery</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241103121800-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241103121800-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241103121800-Espresso_Addict-20241103120700"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000-Redrose64-20241103121800"></span>Nothing that I did??? I'm <i>very</i> confused now. Cheers, <a href="/wiki/User:Espresso_Addict" title="User:Espresso Addict">Espresso Addict</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Espresso_Addict" title="User talk:Espresso Addict">talk</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000-Redrose64-20241103121800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000-Redrose64-20241103121800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000-Redrose64-20241103121800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241103122900-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000"></span>It's probably a template at the top of your user talk page. Something like <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:Nobots" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:Nobots">nobots</a>}}</code>, but not necessarily that specific one. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241103122900-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241103122900-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241103122900-Espresso_Addict-20241103122000"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Uw-spamublock" data-mw-thread-id="h-Uw-spamublock-20241105141000"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Uw-spamublock-20241105141000"></span>Uw-spamublock<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Uw-spamublock-20241105141000"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=16" title="Edit section: Uw-spamublock"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M.Bitton-20241105141000-Uw-spamublock"></span>I don't understand what you meant by <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1255505417" title="Special:Diff/1255505417">this edit summary</a>. When I marked the ER as "already done", I was referring to <a href="/wiki/Special:Diff/1253944819/1255434588" title="Special:Diff/1253944819/1255434588">this edit</a>. Was I supposed to do what you did (i.e., change the title)? <a href="/wiki/User:M.Bitton" title="User:M.Bitton">M.Bitton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M.Bitton" title="User talk:M.Bitton">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-M.Bitton-20241105141000-Uw-spamublock" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M.Bitton-20241105141000-Uw-spamublock"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M.Bitton-20241105141000-Uw-spamublock"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241105170500-M.Bitton-20241105141000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:M.Bitton" title="User:M.Bitton">M.Bitton</a>:</span> Exactly: the first parameter is for the name of the page for which an edit is being requested, accordingly the OP had put <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|Template:Uw-spamublock</code>. Since the edit was to <a href="/wiki/Template:Uw-spamublock" title="Template:Uw-spamublock">Template:Uw-spamublock</a>, you should not have altered it to <code class="tpl-para" style="word-break:break-word;">|Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace</code> as nobody edited that page, nor intended that page to be edited. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241105170500-M.Bitton-20241105141000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241105170500-M.Bitton-20241105141000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241105170500-M.Bitton-20241105141000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-M.Bitton-20241105171400-Redrose64-20241105170500"></span>I see what happened: it was altered by the "Edit Request Tool", that's why I didn't notice it. <a href="/wiki/User:M.Bitton" title="User:M.Bitton">M.Bitton</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:M.Bitton" title="User talk:M.Bitton">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-M.Bitton-20241105171400-Redrose64-20241105170500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-M.Bitton-20241105171400-Redrose64-20241105170500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-M.Bitton-20241105171400-Redrose64-20241105170500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Mail" data-mw-thread-id="h-Mail-20241107082600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Mail-20241107082600"></span>Mail<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Mail-20241107082600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=17" title="Edit section: Mail"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241107082600-Mail"></span>Hey, I sent you one last night my time ... did you get it? Just asking now because time zones can be ... interesting. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241107082600-Mail" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241107082600-Mail"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241107082600-Mail"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241107172500-Graham87-20241107082600"></span>I'm sorry, but I've never started one of those before, so making it my first probably isn't a good idea. I would prefer that it be done properly, and so have a good chance of succeeding. In the past I might have suggested <a href="/wiki/User:RexxS" title="User:RexxS">RexxS</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:RexxS" title="User talk:RexxS">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/RexxS" title="Special:Contributions/RexxS">contribs</a>) or <a href="/wiki/User:Kudpung" title="User:Kudpung">Kudpung</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kudpung" title="User talk:Kudpung">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kudpung" title="Special:Contributions/Kudpung">contribs</a>). Try <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell">HJ Mitchell</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell">talk</a> <b>·</b> <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/HJ_Mitchell" title="Special:Contributions/HJ Mitchell">contribs</a>)? --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241107172500-Graham87-20241107082600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:25, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241107172500-Graham87-20241107082600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241107172500-Graham87-20241107082600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200-Redrose64-20241107172500"></span>Is this about the re-RfA? I'd be happy to, and Redrose can co-nom if he's happy. Redrose would do a better job of addressing the more technical things you use the tools for. You might have to agree to something regarding blocks, like not blocking anyone who hasn't been reported by another editor or similar but I think it's a winnable battle. <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200-Redrose64-20241107172500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200-Redrose64-20241107172500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200-Redrose64-20241107172500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241108011200-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200"></span>Yes, it is about the re-RFA. Yes there'll be a very strong pledge re blocks ... and a refocus. That's why I was thinking of Redrose as a co-nom because he can speak to my technical work. You don't have to start the page, just say a few words about what I've done in that arena when the time comes. Or if you are most comfortable just putting these thoughts in a !support vote, that works too. <span class="template-ping">@<a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell">HJ Mitchell</a>:</span> yes, I'd be happy for you to co-nom me too, as a lead nom or however the cookie crumbles. I have a couple of other people lined up, but your thoughts would be good to add to the mix as well. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241108011200-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">01:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241108011200-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241108011200-HJ_Mitchell-20241107175200"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Drmies-20241108020200-Graham87-20241108011200"></span>Harry</a>, good to see you here. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a>, I would like to see what you'd write up for the nomination before I sign on; obviously you can anticipate some of the questions and it would be good to work on some possible answers. You got my email; a group email with Redrose and Harry might be helpful. Harry, Redrose, just to be honest, I did not agree unconditionally, but we can talk about that. <a href="/wiki/User:Drmies" title="User:Drmies">Drmies</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Drmies" title="User talk:Drmies">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Drmies-20241108020200-Graham87-20241108011200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Drmies-20241108020200-Graham87-20241108011200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Drmies-20241108020200-Graham87-20241108011200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241108022900-Drmies-20241108020200"></span>Also pinging <a href="/wiki/User:Vanamonde93" title="User:Vanamonde93">Vanamonde93</a>, who I've also been conversing with. Now we're all here, and this'll end up being public anyway, I may as well say this now: I'll pledge not to block at all, just to report when I find another user's done something wrong. And I should find a lot less weird stuff once the watchlist cleanup I'm about to start is done. I don't have any strong opinions on where we should go from here in terms of who starts the page, etc., but some of you know the modern practice re that a huge amount better than I do so I'll defer to y'all. The main part of my nom acceptance (is that how it would work?) would basically be a paraphrase of what I said in this message. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241108022900-Drmies-20241108020200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241108022900-Drmies-20241108020200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241108022900-Drmies-20241108020200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Pppery-20241108042400-Graham87-20241108022900"></span>This seems very similar to <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Pppery" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Pppery">my RfA</a> - I passed as a technical admin with a similar but less strict pledge. <a href="/wiki/User:Pppery" title="User:Pppery">* Pppery *</a> <a href="/wiki/User_talk:Pppery" title="User talk:Pppery"><sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Pppery-20241108042400-Graham87-20241108022900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Pppery-20241108042400-Graham87-20241108022900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Pppery-20241108042400-Graham87-20241108022900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241108103600-Pppery-20241108042400"></span>Watchlist purging done ... it's now 1,173 items (almost all articles) lighter ... much better! <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241108103600-Pppery-20241108042400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241108103600-Pppery-20241108042400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241108103600-Pppery-20241108042400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400-Graham87-20241108103600"></span>I don't really do watchlist purging, but I'm quite discriminate about what gets on there in the first place. I'm at about 7,200 pages. <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400-Graham87-20241108103600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400-Graham87-20241108103600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400-Graham87-20241108103600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241108125800-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400"></span>I don't either; this is my first full watchlist purge since 2007 and I've otherwise done only a couple of minor narrow topic ones. It's only got a few hundred active pages now. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241108125800-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">12:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241108125800-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241108125800-HJ_Mitchell-20241108111400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241113021200-Graham87-20241108125800"></span>The RFA page has been created (but is not live) at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Graham87_2" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Graham87 2">Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Graham87 2</a>. If you want to add your piece, feel free. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241113021200-Graham87-20241108125800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241113021200-Graham87-20241108125800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241113021200-Graham87-20241108125800"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="en_tags" data-mw-thread-id="h-en_tags-20241111193100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-en_tags-20241111193100"></span>en tags<span data-mw-comment-end="h-en_tags-20241111193100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=18" title="Edit section: en tags"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Kyteto-20241111193100-en_tags"></span>If you check the revision of the article before I even edited for the first time, some of those tags were already there; from the article's original creation in fact. Advise taking it up with the editors who originally added, or those who applied them inconsistently, rather than singling me out for applying consistency and sticking with the original citation style set out. <a href="/wiki/User:Kyteto" title="User:Kyteto">Kyteto</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Kyteto" title="User talk:Kyteto">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Kyteto-20241111193100-en_tags" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Kyteto-20241111193100-en_tags"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Kyteto-20241111193100-en_tags"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour" data-mw-thread-id="h-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour-20241112073500"><span id="ANI_report_on_Golden409bus.27_abusive_behaviour"></span><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour-20241112073500"></span>ANI report on Golden409bus' abusive behaviour<span data-mw-comment-end="h-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour-20241112073500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=19" title="Edit section: ANI report on Golden409bus' abusive behaviour"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-10mmsocket-20241112073500-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour"></span><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img alt="Information icon" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/25px-Information_icon4.svg.png" decoding="async" width="25" height="25" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/38px-Information_icon4.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1d/Information_icon4.svg/50px-Information_icon4.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="620" data-file-height="620"/></span></span> There is currently a discussion at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents" title="Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents</a> regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. <a href="/wiki/User:10mmsocket" title="User:10mmsocket">10mmsocket</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:10mmsocket" title="User talk:10mmsocket">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-10mmsocket-20241112073500-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">07:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-10mmsocket-20241112073500-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-10mmsocket-20241112073500-ANI_report_on_Golden409bus'_abusive_behaviour"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241112085200-10mmsocket-20241112073500"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241112085200-10mmsocket-20241112073500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">08:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241112085200-10mmsocket-20241112073500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241112085200-10mmsocket-20241112073500"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research" data-mw-thread-id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span>Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research-20241113001800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=20" title="Edit section: Reminder to participate in Wikipedia research"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-BGerdemann_(WMF)-20241113001800-Reminder_to_participate_in_Wikipedia_research"></span>Hello, </p><p>I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. 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HAVE YOU ANY VIEWS ON THAT ALTERATION? </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User:Xenophon Philosopher">Xenophon Philosopher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User talk:Xenophon Philosopher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000-Leeds_Central_railway_station" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">05:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000-Leeds_Central_railway_station"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000-Leeds_Central_railway_station"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241113110800-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User:Xenophon Philosopher">Xenophon Philosopher</a>:</span> Why are you <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Shouting" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:Shouting">shouting</a>? Anyway, it's shown on three different maps: <ul><li><style data-mw-deduplicate="TemplateStyles:r1238218222">.mw-parser-output cite.citation{font-style:inherit;word-wrap:break-word}.mw-parser-output .citation q{quotes:"\"""\"""'""'"}.mw-parser-output .citation:target{background-color:rgba(0,127,255,0.133)}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-free.id-lock-free a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Lock-green.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited.id-lock-limited a,.mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration.id-lock-registration a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d6/Lock-gray-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription.id-lock-subscription a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Lock-red-alt-2.svg")right 0.1em center/9px no-repeat}.mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background:url("//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Wikisource-logo.svg")right 0.1em center/12px no-repeat}body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-free a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-limited a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-registration a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .id-lock-subscription a,body:not(.skin-timeless):not(.skin-minerva) .mw-parser-output .cs1-ws-icon a{background-size:contain;padding:0 1em 0 0}.mw-parser-output .cs1-code{color:inherit;background:inherit;border:none;padding:inherit}.mw-parser-output .cs1-hidden-error{display:none;color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-visible-error{color:var(--color-error,#d33)}.mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{display:none;color:#085;margin-left:0.3em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-left{padding-left:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .cs1-kern-right{padding-right:0.2em}.mw-parser-output .citation .mw-selflink{font-weight:inherit}@media screen{.mw-parser-output .cs1-format{font-size:95%}html.skin-theme-clientpref-night .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}@media screen and (prefers-color-scheme:dark){html.skin-theme-clientpref-os .mw-parser-output .cs1-maint{color:#18911f}}</style><cite id="CITEREFConolly1976" class="citation book cs1">Conolly, W. Philip (January 1976). <i>British Railways Pre-Grouping Atlas and Gazetteer</i> (5th ed.). Shepperton: <a href="/wiki/Ian_Allan_Publishing" title="Ian Allan Publishing">Ian Allan</a>. p. 21, section C2 (Leeds inset). <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/0-7110-0320-3" title="Special:BookSources/0-7110-0320-3"><bdi>0-7110-0320-3</bdi></a>. EX/0176.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=British+Railways+Pre-Grouping+Atlas+and+Gazetteer&rft.place=Shepperton&rft.pages=p.+21%2C+section+C2+%28Leeds+inset%29&rft.edition=5th&rft.pub=Ian+Allan&rft.date=1976-01&rft.isbn=0-7110-0320-3&rft.aulast=Conolly&rft.aufirst=W.+Philip&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARedrose64" class="Z3988"></span></li> <li><link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1238218222"><cite id="CITEREFBatty1989" class="citation book cs1">Batty, Stephen R. (1989). <i>Rail Centres: Leeds/Bradford</i>. Shepperton: <a href="/wiki/Ian_Allan_Publishing" title="Ian Allan Publishing">Ian Allan</a>. endpapers. <a href="/wiki/ISBN_(identifier)" class="mw-redirect" title="ISBN (identifier)">ISBN</a> <a href="/wiki/Special:BookSources/0-7110-1821-9" title="Special:BookSources/0-7110-1821-9"><bdi>0-7110-1821-9</bdi></a>.</cite><span title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Rail+Centres%3A+Leeds%2FBradford&rft.place=Shepperton&rft.pages=endpapers&rft.pub=Ian+Allan&rft.date=1989&rft.isbn=0-7110-1821-9&rft.aulast=Batty&rft.aufirst=Stephen+R.&rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fen.wikipedia.org%3AUser+talk%3ARedrose64" class="Z3988"></span></li></ul></dd> <dd>and also on <a href="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Leeds_RJD_40.jpg" class="internal" title="Leeds RJD 40.jpg">this diagram</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241113110800-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">11:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241113110800-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241113110800-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113053000"></span></dd></dl> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113153800-Leeds_Central_railway_station"></span>I was not aware that the last part was in capitals. I must have accidentally caught something in error. All I wondered why it was that someone had altered the navbox that you had gone to so much trouble to compose which adds much the artcle on that railway station. </p><p><a href="/wiki/User:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User:Xenophon Philosopher">Xenophon Philosopher</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Xenophon_Philosopher" title="User talk:Xenophon Philosopher">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113153800-Leeds_Central_railway_station" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113153800-Leeds_Central_railway_station"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Xenophon_Philosopher-20241113153800-Leeds_Central_railway_station"></span> </p> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request" data-mw-thread-id="h-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request-20241114134100"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request-20241114134100"></span>Template talk:Rail-interchange - Thessaloniki Metro request<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request-20241114134100"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=22" title="Edit section: Template talk:Rail-interchange - Thessaloniki Metro request"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Sarah_fides-20241114134100-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request"></span>Hi, the talk page to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:Rail-interchange" title="Template talk:Rail-interchange">Template talk:Rail-interchange</a> breaks down <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Rail-interchange&oldid=1257351847">after the TextDiff on the previous request</a> if I attempt to add a reply, so putting it here. You have marked the request answered, and I do not think that it is. </p> <dl><dd><dl><dd>@<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64">Redrose64</a> There is no need to be choppy. This has <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ARail-interchange%2Fsandbox&diff=1257321677&oldid=1255283819">already been changed</a> on the sandbox.</dd> <dd>If people still persist, maybe it's because nowhere is it stated that the correct procedure is to amend the sandbox <i>first</i>. The text at the top of the page is very clear that changes must be discussed <b>on this talk page</b> first (all emphasis my own): <dl><dd><i>Substantial changes should first be proposed and discussed <b>here on this page</b>. If the proposal is uncontroversial or has been discussed and is supported by consensus, editors may use {{edit template-protected}} to notify an administrator or template editor to make the requested edit.</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd>Any mention to the sandbox is purely optional: <dl><dd><i>Any contributor <b>may</b> edit the template's sandbox. Functionality of the template <b>can</b> be checked using test cases.</i></dd></dl></dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/User:Sarah_fides" title="User:Sarah fides">Michail</a> <small>(<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Sarah_fides" title="User talk:Sarah fides">blah</a>)</small> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Sarah_fides-20241114134100-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Sarah_fides-20241114134100-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Sarah_fides-20241114134100-Template_talk:Rail-interchange_-_Thessaloniki_Metro_request"></span></dd></dl></dd> <dd><code><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241114143400-Sarah_fides-20241114134100"></span>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:TextDiff" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:TextDiff">TextDiff</a>}}</code> is fine when used to describe changes to <i>text</i>, such as in article prose - hence its name, TextDiff. For an article about a building, on its talk page somebody might put, for example, <table class="diff" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td class="diff-marker" style="width: 2%; padding: 0.25em; font-weight: bold;font-size: 1.25em; text-align: end;">−</td><td class="diff-deletedline" style="border-color: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); vertical-align:top; width: 48%; border-style: solid; border-radius: 0.33em; padding: 0.33em 0.5em; color: inherit; font-size: 1em; font-family: monospace; white-space: pre-wrap; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; -webkit-border-end-width: 1px; -webkit-border-start-width: 4px; -moz-border-end-width: 1px; -moz-border-start-width: 4px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; direction: ltr;">The building was closed in 2014<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </del><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">and</del> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">subsequently</del> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-removed,#ffe49c); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">demolished</del>.</div></td><td style="width: 2%; padding: 0.25em; font-weight: bold;font-size: 1.25em; text-align: end;">+</td><td class="diff-addedline" style="border-color: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); vertical-align:top; width: 48%; border-style: solid; border-radius: 0.33em; padding: 0.33em 0.5em; color: inherit; font-size: 1em; font-family: monospace; white-space: pre-wrap; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; -webkit-border-end-width: 1px; -webkit-border-start-width: 4px; -moz-border-end-width: 1px; -moz-border-start-width: 4px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; direction: ltr;">The building <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">saw</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">little</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">use</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">after</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">1996,</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">and</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins>was closed in 2014<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">. </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">Demolition</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">began</ins> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">in</ins> <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">2016</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">but</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">the</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">site</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">was</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">not</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">cleared</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">until</ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;"> </ins><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline" style="background: var(--background-color-content-added,#a3d3ff); color: inherit; padding: 0.25em 0; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: initial;">2020</ins>.</div></td></tr></tbody></table> As you noticed (several times) it breaks hopelessly if used for template code. I don't know why people keep attempting to use it.</dd> <dd><a href="/wiki/Template:Rail-interchange" title="Template:Rail-interchange">Template:Rail-interchange</a> has itself been broken on several previous occasions by people putting live changes that were insufficiently tested. Even the omission of one bracket can have consequences that can take days to put right, whilst we wait for the fix to propagate through the job queue. So we need to make sure that every change is right the first time. There is plenty on this matter in the talk page archives. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241114143400-Sarah_fides-20241114134100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">14:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241114143400-Sarah_fides-20241114134100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241114143400-Sarah_fides-20241114134100"></span></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="My_RFA" data-mw-thread-id="h-My_RFA-20241115020800"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-My_RFA-20241115020800"></span>My RFA<span data-mw-comment-end="h-My_RFA-20241115020800"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=23" title="Edit section: My RFA"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241115020800-My_RFA"></span>Hey, would you like to add a few words about my technical contribs as a nom statement at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Graham87_2" title="Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Graham87 2">my RFA</a>, or would you be more comfortable taking a less prominent role? Either way, no worries: I'd just like to know before I take it live. If anyone else wants to join in, feel free. Sorry for any hassle. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241115020800-My_RFA" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241115020800-My_RFA"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241115020800-My_RFA"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241115235600-Graham87-20241115020800"></span>Hi <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a>, it appears that an RfA cannot have more than two co-nominations in addition to the primary nom, and two co-noms (Vanamonde93 and Drmies) had already been added by the time that you posted here (yesterday, Australian time). The restriction is in <a href="/wiki/Template:RfA/readyToSubmit" title="Template:RfA/readyToSubmit">Template:RfA/readyToSubmit</a>, and I don't think that I should amend that without first proposing it at <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:RFA" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia talk:RFA">WT:RFA</a>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241115235600-Graham87-20241115020800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241115235600-Graham87-20241115020800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241115235600-Graham87-20241115020800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241116023800-Redrose64-20241115235600"></span>I tried to add space for more co-noms in, but it was reverted ... eh I was going to right more, but I think I'll take this to <a href="/wiki/Template_talk:RfA" title="Template talk:RfA">Template talk:RfA</a>, where what I was going to say is much more relevant. I think I'll take the implicit hint and make the RFA live relatively soon. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241116023800-Redrose64-20241115235600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241116023800-Redrose64-20241115235600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241116023800-Redrose64-20241115235600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241116043000-Graham87-20241116023800"></span>After advice (see the email thread if you want to), I've substituted the RFA template so there's space to add a co-nom statement, if you like. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241116043000-Graham87-20241116023800" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">04:30, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241116043000-Graham87-20241116023800"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241116043000-Graham87-20241116023800"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241116235500-Graham87-20241116043000"></span>I want to write something, but I can't work out what to write. It's got to be 100% bang-on <i>right</i>. I've spent half the day on diversionary gnoming. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241116235500-Graham87-20241116043000" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241116235500-Graham87-20241116043000"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241116235500-Graham87-20241116043000"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100-Redrose64-20241116235500"></span>For what it's worth, I don't think a long statement is necessary. If you have any experience of Graham as an admin, especially in obscure technical fields, that hasn't been covered by one of the other nominators, that might go down well. If you don't have anything "new" to cover, then you might do just as well as an early supporter when the RfA is live. Best, <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100-Redrose64-20241116235500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100-Redrose64-20241116235500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100-Redrose64-20241116235500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241117002400-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100"></span>Indeed. I was just thinking of you saying a little bit about my contributions from a technical angle (perhaps something from the technical village pump ... and maybe accessibility). Maybe a comment you remember me making somewhere? If you're still wracking your brains trying to say something, I could start the RFA with the noms already there ... <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241117002400-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241117002400-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241117002400-HJ_Mitchell-20241117000100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241117093500-Graham87-20241117002400"></span>I think that you'll have to - I'm going to be <a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Oxford/106" class="extiw" title="m:Meetup/Oxford/106">out most of the day</a>. Then Monday is a work day... --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241117093500-Graham87-20241117002400" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">09:35, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241117093500-Graham87-20241117002400"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241117093500-Graham87-20241117002400"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241117100100-Redrose64-20241117093500"></span>OK, ta for the note. I'll do that. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241117100100-Redrose64-20241117093500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241117100100-Redrose64-20241117093500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241117100100-Redrose64-20241117093500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Graham87-20241120002100-Graham87-20241117100100"></span>Thanks very much for your latest comment there and I'm so sorry to put you through all that. <a href="/wiki/User:Graham87" title="User:Graham87">Graham87</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Graham87" title="User talk:Graham87">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Graham87-20241120002100-Graham87-20241117100100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Graham87-20241120002100-Graham87-20241117100100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Graham87-20241120002100-Graham87-20241117100100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241120184500-Graham87-20241120002100"></span><span class="nowrap"><span typeof="mw:File"><span><img src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/18px-Face-smile.svg.png" decoding="async" width="18" height="18" class="mw-file-element" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/27px-Face-smile.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Face-smile.svg/36px-Face-smile.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="48" data-file-height="48"/></span></span> <b>Thank you</b></span> --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241120184500-Graham87-20241120002100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:45, 20 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241120184500-Graham87-20241120002100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241120184500-Graham87-20241120002100"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles" data-mw-thread-id="h-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles-20241115134900"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles-20241115134900"></span>Names of social media reps in articles<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles-20241115134900"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=24" title="Edit section: Names of social media reps in articles"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20241115134900-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles"></span>Hi Redrose, just wondering if Anamyd's edits to <a href="/wiki/British_Rail_Class_756" title="British Rail Class 756">Class 756</a> where they mentioned a social media rep's name is something that would be allowed on Wikipedia? Not talking about the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OR" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OR">WP:OR</a> aspect here, but whether the name being mentioned is something that is permissible or should be suppressed... Many thanks! <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Danners430-20241115134900-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20241115134900-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20241115134900-Names_of_social_media_reps_in_articles"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241115152100-Danners430-20241115134900"></span>@<a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a>:</span> <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_756&diff=next&oldid=1257537022">This edit</a></span> is right out. <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_756&diff=next&oldid=1257534998">This edit summary</a></span> does not satisfy <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:V" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:V">WP:V</a>, nor does the previous one. All in all, <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_Class_756&diff=prev&oldid=1257546413">this was a good revert</a></span>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241115152100-Danners430-20241115134900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241115152100-Danners430-20241115134900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241115152100-Danners430-20241115134900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20241115153900-Redrose64-20241115152100"></span>I’m just really wanting to check regarding the inclusion of the social media rep’s name from a privacy standpoint whether it should be left or the edit history suppressed, that’s all I’m concerned about - I simply don’t know either way :) <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Danners430-20241115153900-Redrose64-20241115152100" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:39, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20241115153900-Redrose64-20241115152100"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20241115153900-Redrose64-20241115152100"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241115173300-Danners430-20241115153900"></span>There's only one name that I can see, and it's just one word - it might be a forename, or an alias. I don't think that it can be used to identify a real-life individual. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241115173300-Danners430-20241115153900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:33, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241115173300-Danners430-20241115153900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241115173300-Danners430-20241115153900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Danners430-20241115173500-Redrose64-20241115173300"></span>That’s fair - thank you for checking and confirming however :) can never be too careful! <a href="/wiki/User:Danners430" class="mw-redirect" title="User:Danners430">Danners430</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Danners430" title="User talk:Danners430">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Danners430-20241115173500-Redrose64-20241115173300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Danners430-20241115173500-Redrose64-20241115173300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Danners430-20241115173500-Redrose64-20241115173300"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Southcote_Junction" data-mw-thread-id="h-Southcote_Junction-20241115165200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Southcote_Junction-20241115165200"></span>Southcote Junction<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Southcote_Junction-20241115165200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=25" title="Edit section: Southcote Junction"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Chris_j_wood-20241115165200-Southcote_Junction"></span>Hi again. I see you have contributed to the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Southcote_Junction" title="Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southcote Junction">discussion on Soutcote Junction</a> but without expressing a <b>delete</b> or <b>keep</b>. I'd value your thought on this, whichever way you call it. I must admit I feel a bit under siege on this one, especially after the latest delete call from an anonymous IPV6 address with a visible history of just 7 edits over a period of all of 12 minutes!. 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If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add <code>{{<a href="/wiki/Template:NoACEMM" class="mw-redirect" title="Template:NoACEMM">NoACEMM</a>}}</code> to your user talk page. <small><a href="/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User:MediaWiki message delivery">MediaWiki message delivery</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:MediaWiki_message_delivery" title="User talk:MediaWiki message delivery">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">00:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)</a></small><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20241119002500-ArbCom_2024_Elections_voter_message"></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Collyhurst" data-mw-thread-id="h-Collyhurst-20241122235200"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Collyhurst-20241122235200"></span><a href="/wiki/Collyhurst" title="Collyhurst">Collyhurst</a><span data-mw-comment-end="h-Collyhurst-20241122235200"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=27" title="Edit section: Collyhurst"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200-Collyhurst"></span>I'm not sure what you mean by "come on"? We normally put the county in articles with the exception of Greater London. Greater Manchester does include distinct places like Wigan that aren't part of the settlement so its not like they are similar enough not to need to be mentioned even if the county includes the name of the city. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200-Collyhurst" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:52, 22 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200-Collyhurst"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200-Collyhurst"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241123135600-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200"></span>But Collyhurst isn't in Wigan, it's in Manchester - only a mile and a half from the centre. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241123135600-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">13:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241123135600-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241123135600-Crouch,_Swale-20241122235200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300-Redrose64-20241123135600"></span>But its still in the county of Greater Manchester and no longer in Lancashire (which could probably also be mentioned) so I still think the correct thing is to mention the current (and probably former) county. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300-Redrose64-20241123135600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300-Redrose64-20241123135600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300-Redrose64-20241123135600"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241123183900-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300"></span>Writing <link rel="mw-deduplicated-inline-style" href="mw-data:TemplateStyles:r1248585704"><q class="inline-quote-talk"><b>Collyhurst</b> is an inner city area of <a href="/wiki/Manchester" title="Manchester">Manchester</a>, in <a href="/wiki/Greater_Manchester" title="Greater Manchester">Greater Manchester</a>, England</q> introduces redundancy, not to mention <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:OVERLINK" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:OVERLINK">WP:OVERLINKing</a>. There is absolutely no need to point out that Manchester is in Greater Manchester. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241123183900-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">18:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241123183900-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241123183900-Crouch,_Swale-20241123182300"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500-Redrose64-20241123183900"></span>Counties are normally linked and wouldn't likely be considered over linking, linking <a href="/wiki/England" title="England">England</a> would be. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500-Redrose64-20241123183900" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">23:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500-Redrose64-20241123183900"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500-Redrose64-20241123183900"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500"></span>"Normally" implies room for common-sense exceptions, of which this would appear to be an obvious one. The determining factor should be what is most helpful to the reader. That's often local government divisions but those are arbitrary and a lot less relevant in major built-up areas. <a href="/wiki/User:HJ_Mitchell" title="User:HJ Mitchell"><b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b></a> | <a href="/wiki/User_talk:HJ_Mitchell" title="User talk:HJ Mitchell"><span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span></a> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">10:22, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200-Crouch,_Swale-20241127232500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200"></span>That was with respect to Greater London, as far as I'm aware we expect all counties outside of London to be included in the lead. <b><a href="/wiki/User:Crouch,_Swale" title="User:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span></a></b> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Crouch,_Swale" title="User talk:Crouch, Swale"><span style="color:Blue">talk</span></a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:15, 1 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500-HJ_Mitchell-20241128102200"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241201225700-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500"></span>It doesn't change the fact that there is absolutely no need to point out that Manchester is in Greater Manchester. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241201225700-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:57, 1 December 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241201225700-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241201225700-Crouch,_Swale-20241201221500"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="List_renumbering" data-mw-thread-id="h-List_renumbering-20241123164500"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-List_renumbering-20241123164500"></span>List renumbering<span data-mw-comment-end="h-List_renumbering-20241123164500"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=28" title="Edit section: List renumbering"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isaacl-20241123164500-List_renumbering"></span>Regarding using HTML markup: I didn't think it would work specifically with the ACE question template, since it introduces a sublist, so wasn't sure how an unclosed HTML list item would interact with it (normally I would recommend closing it explicitly). In any case, the template has been extended now to support a parameter to set a value explicitly using HTML markup. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Isaacl-20241123164500-List_renumbering" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">16:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isaacl-20241123164500-List_renumbering"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isaacl-20241123164500-List_renumbering"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span class="template-ping"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241123171200-Isaacl-20241123164500"></span>@<a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">Isaacl</a>:</span> The closing tag of <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//www.w3.org/TR/2021/SPSD-html52-20210128/grouping-content.html#the-li-element">a <code>li</code> element</a> is always optional, since it is implicitly closed by the next <code class="nowrap" style=""><li></code> tag at the same level, also by the closing <code class="nowrap" style=""></ol></code> of the enclosing <a rel="nofollow" class="external text" href="//www.w3.org/TR/2021/SPSD-html52-20210128/grouping-content.html#the-ol-element"><code>ol</code> element</a>. A <code>li</code> element may enclose zero or more sublists of any type, to any depth. See <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=1259148732">this demo</a></span>.</dd> <dd>The way that <span class="plainlinks"><a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=1259129034">this</a></span> works relies on my first sentence - effectively, what we have is <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-html mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span>Here is a list: <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">ol</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>This is the first item <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>Second item <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">li</span> <span class="na">value</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s">4</span><span class="p">></span>Not the third item <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>List continues <span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">ol</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span>with text after. </pre></div> and your browser gets served with this: <div class="mw-highlight mw-highlight-lang-html mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr"><pre><span></span><span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span>Here is a list: <span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">ol</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>This is the first item<span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>Second item<span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span> <span class="na">class</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s">"mw-empty-elt"</span><span class="p">></</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">><</span><span class="nt">li</span> <span class="na">value</span><span class="o">=</span><span class="s">"4"</span><span class="p">></span>Not the third item<span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></span>List continues<span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">li</span><span class="p">></</span><span class="nt">ol</span><span class="p">></span> <span class="p"><</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span>with text after. <span class="p"></</span><span class="nt">p</span><span class="p">></span> </pre></div> MediaWiki silently adds the missing closing tags, even though the only one that is required is the <code class="nowrap" style=""></ol></code>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241123171200-Isaacl-20241123164500" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241123171200-Isaacl-20241123164500"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241123171200-Isaacl-20241123164500"></span> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Isaacl-20241123173100-Redrose64-20241123171200"></span>Thanks for the info. The unclear issue for me wasn't the HTML standard, but what the resulting HTML output would be from MediaWiki when the ACE question template was used in combination with the <code class="nowrap" style=""><li></code> syntax within wikitext. In any case, it's moot now that the template has been enhanced, so please don't feel obligated to spend any additional time on explaining its workings. <a href="/w/index.php?title=User:Isaacl&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User:Isaacl (page does not exist)">isaacl</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:Isaacl" title="User talk:Isaacl">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Isaacl-20241123173100-Redrose64-20241123171200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Isaacl-20241123173100-Redrose64-20241123171200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Isaacl-20241123173100-Redrose64-20241123171200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl> <div class="mw-heading mw-heading2 ext-discussiontools-init-section"><h2 id="Inquiry" data-mw-thread-id="h-Inquiry-20241128152600"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="h-Inquiry-20241128152600"></span>Inquiry<span data-mw-comment-end="h-Inquiry-20241128152600"></span></h2><span class="mw-editsection"><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">[</span><a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&action=edit&section=29" title="Edit section: Inquiry"><span>edit</span></a><span class="mw-editsection-bracket">]</span></span><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-bar"><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-metadata"></div><div class="ext-discussiontools-init-section-actions"></div></div></div> <p><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.152.68.190-20241128152600-Inquiry"></span>Would you mind explaining your revert <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nival_(company)&diff=prev&oldid=1260047367">here</a>? There is no need for that page to be archived, and the addition of auto archiving was done disruptively by <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:LTA/BMN123" class="mw-redirect" title="Wikipedia:LTA/BMN123">WP:LTA/BMN123</a> who is just trying to conceal a discussion that did not go their way. I see no reason not to restore <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nival_(company)&oldid=1255804464">this revision</a> by <a href="/wiki/User:DatGuy" title="User:DatGuy">DatGuy</a>. I'll also ping <a href="/wiki/User:ScottishFinnishRadish" title="User:ScottishFinnishRadish">ScottishFinnishRadish</a> who has assisted in cleaning up similar disruption by this LTA in the recent past. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190" title="Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190">184.152.68.190</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:184.152.68.190" title="User talk:184.152.68.190">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-184.152.68.190-20241128152600-Inquiry" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">15:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.152.68.190-20241128152600-Inquiry"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.152.68.190-20241128152600-Inquiry"></span> </p> <dl><dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-Redrose64-20241128194200-184.152.68.190-20241128152600"></span>Archiving was set up as long ago as February 2022. Since then, Lowercase sigmabot III has created three archive pages. Your edit goes only a small way toward reverting all of that. If you don't think that <a href="/wiki/Talk:Nival_(company)" title="Talk:Nival (company)">Talk:Nival (company)</a> should be archived, you should start a discussion <i>on that page</i>. --<a href="/wiki/User:Redrose64" title="User:Redrose64"><span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64</a> 🌹 (<a class="mw-selflink selflink">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-Redrose64-20241128194200-184.152.68.190-20241128152600" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:42, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-Redrose64-20241128194200-184.152.68.190-20241128152600"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-Redrose64-20241128194200-184.152.68.190-20241128152600"></span> <dl><dd><a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/JUJUJUL_DU_72" title="Special:Contributions/JUJUJUL DU 72"><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.152.68.190-20241128195100-Redrose64-20241128194200"></span>JUJUJUL DU 72</a> is a DUCK sock of BMN123 <small>and blocked</small>, likewise for <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A0A:8C42:0:0:0:0:0:16" title="Special:Contributions/2A0A:8C42:0:0:0:0:0:16">2A0A:8C42:0:0:0:0:0:16</a> <small> still blocked as an open proxy</small>. That said I hadn't taken a close enough look at the degree of disruption, and so I agree there should not be three duplicate archive pages. I can't remember if G5, G6, or blanking is preferred for cases like this; SFR or DatGuy might be able to chime in on that, but there is no reason not to revert the pages to their states prior to sock disruption. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190" title="Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190">184.152.68.190</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:184.152.68.190" title="User talk:184.152.68.190">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-184.152.68.190-20241128195100-Redrose64-20241128194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">19:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.152.68.190-20241128195100-Redrose64-20241128194200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.152.68.190-20241128195100-Redrose64-20241128194200"></span></dd> <dd><span data-mw-comment-start="" id="c-184.152.68.190-20241130024800-Redrose64-20241128194200"></span>Ok I took a moment to review the history, looks like every edit after <a class="external text" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nival_(company)&oldid=935695347">this</a> was either sock-disruption, bot edits resulting from sock-disruption, or reverts. So the solution there should simply be to restore that revision, update the templates and call it good. I suspect the duplicates can just be cleared until needed, unless some other procedure is preferred in which case feel free to let me know. I have two other LTAs I need to follow-up on first, after that if I still have time I may get back to this one. <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190" title="Special:Contributions/184.152.68.190">184.152.68.190</a> (<a href="/wiki/User_talk:184.152.68.190" title="User talk:184.152.68.190">talk</a>) <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Redrose64#c-184.152.68.190-20241130024800-Redrose64-20241128194200" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">02:48, 30 November 2024 (UTC)</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-buttons" data-mw-thread-id="c-184.152.68.190-20241130024800-Redrose64-20241128194200"><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">[</span><a class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-reply" role="button" tabindex="0" href="">reply</a><span class="ext-discussiontools-init-replylink-bracket">]</span></span><span data-mw-comment-end="c-184.152.68.190-20241130024800-Redrose64-20241128194200"></span></dd></dl></dd></dl>    </div><noscript><img src="https://login.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAutoLogin/start?type=1x1&useformat=desktop" alt="" width="1" height="1" style="border: none; position: absolute;"></noscript> <div class="printfooter" data-nosnippet="">Retrieved from "<a dir="ltr" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&oldid=1260653177">https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Redrose64&oldid=1260653177</a>"</div></div> <div id="catlinks" class="catlinks catlinks-allhidden" data-mw="interface"></div> </div> </main> </div> <div class="mw-footer-container"> <footer id="footer" class="mw-footer" > <ul id="footer-info"> <li id="footer-info-lastmod"> This page was last edited on 1 December 2024, at 22:57<span class="anonymous-show"> (UTC)</span>.</li> <li id="footer-info-copyright">Text is available under the <a href="/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_4.0_International_License" title="Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License">Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License</a>; additional terms may apply. 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